Re: [WG: Badging] Tooling, reclaiming thread

[Paulo Motta]

> it looks like there’s no way to run this on the hosted service and have
it integrated with ASF LDAP, as each individual badge recipient would have
to create an account through their tooling.

Backing off a bit, do we really need logins for a badging page? In my view
this would add unnecessary friction/overhead for contributors without ASF
IDs, which to me would be the initial beneficiaries of this system.

The way I see it, the "baging" widget would be the initial sub-feature of
an auto-generated people.apache.org page, which would contain a verifiable
trace of users' contributions and achievements to ASF projects. This page
could be referenced in Linkedin or resumes to "prove" contributions made by
an individual to ASF projects, serving as an user ASF profile (whether the
user has ASF id or not). Users with custom people.apache.org pages would
not be affected by this, since they would be optint-out of the system by
having a custom page.

This is the rough workflow I have in mind:

1. User John Doe  makes first contribution to Apache Foo.
2. John Doe receives an email from peo...@apache.org on john...@acme.org
with the following content:
  "Congratulations on your first ASF contribution John, we would love for
you to have a page on people.apache.org to showcase your achievements on
ASF projects. Click here to generate your "First Contribution" badge if you
want that. If you don't want this, please ignore this email and we promise
to never contact you again."
3. John Doe fills a simple form and selects the username "doejohn", which
is not an ASF id, but just a handle to a people.apache.org page. If an ASF
id exists with the same name, then the request is rejected.
4. After form submission and reviewed by a human, a new page is created:
people.apache.org/~doejohn
5. people.apache.org/~doejohn will have a simple static HTML page with the
following information:
1. Title: John Doe's ASF Achievements Page
2. Name: John Doe
3. Optional Avatar photo from gravatar.com
4. Role: ASF Contributor
5. Badge widget containing the first badge: "My First Contribution"
6. List of contributions done by John Doe to all ASF projects.
6. After some years of contributions, John Doe is invited to be a committer
of Apache Foo.
  a. John can "convert" its username "doejohn" into an ASF ID, or can
choose another ASF ID handle when becoming a committer.
  b. This kicks-off an update to people.apache.org/~doejohn to change the
role from "ASF Contributor" to "Committer at Apache Foo"
7. After 1000 commits to ASF projects, this kicks off a new hypothetical
badge to John Doe "1000 commits to ASF projects"
8. A Human verifies this badge to check it's not bogus.
9. If this is the case, people.apache.org/~doejohn badge widget is updated
to include the "1000 commits to ASF projects" badge.
   - please note "1000 commits to ASF projects" is not a real badge, it's
just a hypothetical example to illustrate this system. Badges to non-code
contributions would also exist but it's out of the scope of this discussion.

What do you think?

If this makes sense I would be happy to develop this idea into a design doc
for review.

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 8:36 AM Rich Bowen  wrote:

> Ok, since the existing “Tooling” thread has been hopelessly derailed into
> … whatever that is, I’m going to try to reboot this thread.
>
> So far, we have a proposed solution from Paulo:
>
>
> > I've played around with badgr.com  a bit and was
> able to create the
> > following organization and badge very quickly (the site usability is
> pretty
> > good):
> > - ORG: https://badgr.com/public/issuers/bumbzeisQSuoN3Q_G4753Q/badges
> > - BADGE:
> >
> https://badgr.com/public/assertions/ROzmBXUXQ9Cs86uMYdrGvA?identity__email=pauloricardomg%40gmail.com
>
> After poking through this a bit, it looks like there’s no way to run this
> on the hosted service and have it integrated with ASF LDAP, as each
> individual badge recipient would have to create an account through their
> tooling. This rather violates the “easy” requirement.
>
> Anyone have any insight into if, or how, we might do that, or another
> badging tool that may make this easier?
>
> —
> Rich Bowen
> rbo...@rcbowen.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Community Over Code NA community track, CFP closing soon

[Rich Bowen]

> On Mar 19, 2024, at 10:43 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
> 
> Hey, folks,
> The CFP - Call for Presentations - for Community Over Code North America is 
> closing very soon - at 23:59 UTC on April 1, 2024
> 
> https://communityovercode.org/call-for-presentations/
> 
> As usual, we will have a community track, covering all manner of community 
> content, such as governance, onboarding, community growth, and so on. We 
> almost always have twice as many submissions as we can reasonably run, so 
> please do write your abstracts carefully with that in mind, and wow us with 
> your presentation ideas.
> 
> We hope to see many of you in Denver!

Amusingly, the deadline changed literally as I was writing this email. It’s the 
15th now, rather than the 1st, but please don’t take that as a reason to delay 
further.

—Rich

Community Over Code NA community track, CFP closing soon

[Rich Bowen]

Hey, folks,
The CFP - Call for Presentations - for Community Over Code North America is 
closing very soon - at 23:59 UTC on April 1, 2024

https://communityovercode.org/call-for-presentations/

As usual, we will have a community track, covering all manner of community 
content, such as governance, onboarding, community growth, and so on. We almost 
always have twice as many submissions as we can reasonably run, so please do 
write your abstracts carefully with that in mind, and wow us with your 
presentation ideas.

We hope to see many of you in Denver!

— 
Rich Bowen
rbo...@rcbowen.com

Re: Reporter tool for board reports needs some love

[Andrew Musselman]

Backed out; thanks

$ svn ci -m"Backing out unintended changes"
Sendingsite/js/addrelease.js
Transmitting file data .done
Committing transaction...
Committed revision 1916426.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:41 AM sebb  wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 17:37, Andrew Musselman  wrote:
> >
> > I checked this revision in, inadvertently adding something I did a while
> > back to make page loading faster as I recall. I can back that change out
> > now.
>
> Thanks.
>
> I was about to reply to that commit to ask if that part of the change
> was intended, as it was not mentioned in the log.
>
> > $ svn ci -m"Adding updated information about what code is running behind
> > the scenes for the reporter page (kibble)"
> > SendingREADME.txt
> > Sendingsite/js/addrelease.js
> > Transmitting file data ..done
> > Committing transaction...
> > Committed revision 1916425.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:24 AM Andrew Musselman 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'll make that edit, thanks sebb.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:11 AM sebb  wrote:
> > >
> > >> The linked README file is a bit out of date.
> > >>
> > >> Neither it nor the About page mention that many of the stats come from
> > >> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 16:25, Andrew Musselman 
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > https://reporter.apache.org/about.html
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 8:56 AM tison  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > May I ask where we host the reporter tool source code?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Best,
> > >> > > tison.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Rich Bowen  于2024年3月19日周二 23:52写道：
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Craig Russell <
> apache@gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Is there anyone who can take a look at the Reporter tool that
> many
> > >> > > > projects rely on to help create board reports?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > A number of projects have commented that the statistics seem
> to
> > >> be in
> > >> > > > conflict with reality.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Every month several projects make this complaint. I almost
> always
> > >> > > > encourage them to bring their complaint here. They almost never
> do,
> > >> > > leaving
> > >> > > > us with only the vaguest idea of what they think is broken. Do
> you
> > >> feel
> > >> > > you
> > >> > > > understand what they think is being reported inaccurately? I
> think
> > >> some
> > >> > > > folks have complained about Github stats being off, but that’s
> > >> pretty
> > >> > > easy
> > >> > > > to go retrieve on their own.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >>
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Re: Reporter tool for board reports needs some love

[sebb]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 17:37, Andrew Musselman  wrote:
>
> I checked this revision in, inadvertently adding something I did a while
> back to make page loading faster as I recall. I can back that change out
> now.

Thanks.

I was about to reply to that commit to ask if that part of the change
was intended, as it was not mentioned in the log.

> $ svn ci -m"Adding updated information about what code is running behind
> the scenes for the reporter page (kibble)"
> SendingREADME.txt
> Sendingsite/js/addrelease.js
> Transmitting file data ..done
> Committing transaction...
> Committed revision 1916425.
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:24 AM Andrew Musselman  wrote:
>
> > I'll make that edit, thanks sebb.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:11 AM sebb  wrote:
> >
> >> The linked README file is a bit out of date.
> >>
> >> Neither it nor the About page mention that many of the stats come from
> >> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/
> >>
> >> On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 16:25, Andrew Musselman  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > https://reporter.apache.org/about.html
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 8:56 AM tison  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > May I ask where we host the reporter tool source code?
> >> > >
> >> > > Best,
> >> > > tison.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Rich Bowen  于2024年3月19日周二 23:52写道：
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Craig Russell 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Is there anyone who can take a look at the Reporter tool that many
> >> > > > projects rely on to help create board reports?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > A number of projects have commented that the statistics seem to
> >> be in
> >> > > > conflict with reality.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Every month several projects make this complaint. I almost always
> >> > > > encourage them to bring their complaint here. They almost never do,
> >> > > leaving
> >> > > > us with only the vaguest idea of what they think is broken. Do you
> >> feel
> >> > > you
> >> > > > understand what they think is being reported inaccurately? I think
> >> some
> >> > > > folks have complained about Github stats being off, but that’s
> >> pretty
> >> > > easy
> >> > > > to go retrieve on their own.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >>
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Re: Reporter tool for board reports needs some love

[Andrew Musselman]

I checked this revision in, inadvertently adding something I did a while
back to make page loading faster as I recall. I can back that change out
now.

$ svn ci -m"Adding updated information about what code is running behind
the scenes for the reporter page (kibble)"
SendingREADME.txt
Sendingsite/js/addrelease.js
Transmitting file data ..done
Committing transaction...
Committed revision 1916425.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:24 AM Andrew Musselman  wrote:

> I'll make that edit, thanks sebb.
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:11 AM sebb  wrote:
>
>> The linked README file is a bit out of date.
>>
>> Neither it nor the About page mention that many of the stats come from
>> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 16:25, Andrew Musselman  wrote:
>> >
>> > https://reporter.apache.org/about.html
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 8:56 AM tison  wrote:
>> >
>> > > May I ask where we host the reporter tool source code?
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > > tison.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Rich Bowen  于2024年3月19日周二 23:52写道：
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Craig Russell 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is there anyone who can take a look at the Reporter tool that many
>> > > > projects rely on to help create board reports?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > A number of projects have commented that the statistics seem to
>> be in
>> > > > conflict with reality.
>> > > >
>> > > > Every month several projects make this complaint. I almost always
>> > > > encourage them to bring their complaint here. They almost never do,
>> > > leaving
>> > > > us with only the vaguest idea of what they think is broken. Do you
>> feel
>> > > you
>> > > > understand what they think is being reported inaccurately? I think
>> some
>> > > > folks have complained about Github stats being off, but that’s
>> pretty
>> > > easy
>> > > > to go retrieve on their own.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>>
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Re: Reporter tool for board reports needs some love

[Andrew Musselman]

I'll make that edit, thanks sebb.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:11 AM sebb  wrote:

> The linked README file is a bit out of date.
>
> Neither it nor the About page mention that many of the stats come from
> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/
>
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 16:25, Andrew Musselman  wrote:
> >
> > https://reporter.apache.org/about.html
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 8:56 AM tison  wrote:
> >
> > > May I ask where we host the reporter tool source code?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > tison.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rich Bowen  于2024年3月19日周二 23:52写道：
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Craig Russell 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there anyone who can take a look at the Reporter tool that many
> > > > projects rely on to help create board reports?
> > > > >
> > > > > A number of projects have commented that the statistics seem to be
> in
> > > > conflict with reality.
> > > >
> > > > Every month several projects make this complaint. I almost always
> > > > encourage them to bring their complaint here. They almost never do,
> > > leaving
> > > > us with only the vaguest idea of what they think is broken. Do you
> feel
> > > you
> > > > understand what they think is being reported inaccurately? I think
> some
> > > > folks have complained about Github stats being off, but that’s pretty
> > > easy
> > > > to go retrieve on their own.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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Re: Reporter tool for board reports needs some love

[sebb]

The linked README file is a bit out of date.

Neither it nor the About page mention that many of the stats come from
https://demo.kibble.apache.org/

On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 16:25, Andrew Musselman  wrote:
>
> https://reporter.apache.org/about.html
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 8:56 AM tison  wrote:
>
> > May I ask where we host the reporter tool source code?
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> >
> > Rich Bowen  于2024年3月19日周二 23:52写道：
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Craig Russell 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Is there anyone who can take a look at the Reporter tool that many
> > > projects rely on to help create board reports?
> > > >
> > > > A number of projects have commented that the statistics seem to be in
> > > conflict with reality.
> > >
> > > Every month several projects make this complaint. I almost always
> > > encourage them to bring their complaint here. They almost never do,
> > leaving
> > > us with only the vaguest idea of what they think is broken. Do you feel
> > you
> > > understand what they think is being reported inaccurately? I think some
> > > folks have complained about Github stats being off, but that’s pretty
> > easy
> > > to go retrieve on their own.
> > >
> > >
> >

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Re: Reporter tool for board reports needs some love

[Andrew Musselman]

https://reporter.apache.org/about.html

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 8:56 AM tison  wrote:

> May I ask where we host the reporter tool source code?
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Rich Bowen  于2024年3月19日周二 23:52写道：
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Craig Russell 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is there anyone who can take a look at the Reporter tool that many
> > projects rely on to help create board reports?
> > >
> > > A number of projects have commented that the statistics seem to be in
> > conflict with reality.
> >
> > Every month several projects make this complaint. I almost always
> > encourage them to bring their complaint here. They almost never do,
> leaving
> > us with only the vaguest idea of what they think is broken. Do you feel
> you
> > understand what they think is being reported inaccurately? I think some
> > folks have complained about Github stats being off, but that’s pretty
> easy
> > to go retrieve on their own.
> >
> >
>

Re: Reporter tool for board reports needs some love

[tison]

May I ask where we host the reporter tool source code?

Best,
tison.


Rich Bowen  于2024年3月19日周二 23:52写道：

>
>
>
> > On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Craig Russell  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there anyone who can take a look at the Reporter tool that many
> projects rely on to help create board reports?
> >
> > A number of projects have commented that the statistics seem to be in
> conflict with reality.
>
> Every month several projects make this complaint. I almost always
> encourage them to bring their complaint here. They almost never do, leaving
> us with only the vaguest idea of what they think is broken. Do you feel you
> understand what they think is being reported inaccurately? I think some
> folks have complained about Github stats being off, but that’s pretty easy
> to go retrieve on their own.
>
>

Re: Reporter tool for board reports needs some love

[Rich Bowen]

> On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:18 PM, Craig Russell  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is there anyone who can take a look at the Reporter tool that many projects 
> rely on to help create board reports?
> 
> A number of projects have commented that the statistics seem to be in 
> conflict with reality.

Every month several projects make this complaint. I almost always encourage 
them to bring their complaint here. They almost never do, leaving us with only 
the vaguest idea of what they think is broken. Do you feel you understand what 
they think is being reported inaccurately? I think some folks have complained 
about Github stats being off, but that’s pretty easy to go retrieve on their 
own.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Community over Code Europe 2025

[Claude Edney]

lol lol yes I don’t have slack but we can find something that works 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2024, at 4:19 AM, koteswara Rao Gundapaneni 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am interested to join the Community over Code Europe 2025
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024, 14:26 Claude Warren,  wrote:
>> 
>> Is anyone interested in starting work on Community over Code Europe 2025?
>> This is the premier ASF conference in Europe.
>> 
>> The 2024 conference is in Bratislava in June [1], and it is probably time
>> to start thinking about 2025.  I would be nice to have a leadership team in
>> place before CoC EU 2024 so that we can share info and lessons learned
>> directly.
>> 
>> Claude Warren
>> Chair,
>> CoC EU 2024 Organizing Committee.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [1] http://eu.communityovercode.org
>> 


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Re: FYI, ASF volunteers page is live, mentors & speakers are welcome to sign up

[tison]

Cool. Thank you!

Best,
tison.


Bertrand Delacretaz  于2024年3月19日周二 19:45写道：

> Hi,
>
> The new "ASF volunteer mentors & speakers" page [0] is live, meant to
> replace the unmaintained community.zones.apache.org utilities, which
> will soon be redirected to it.
>
> ASF committers are welcome to add their names to that page if you are
> willing to be a mentor and/or speaker on ASF topics.
>
> To do so, add your ASF ID to [1] and if desired you can add some
> additional information (region, languages spoken, website) to [2].
>
> -Bertrand
>
> [0] https://community.apache.org/contributors/asf-volunteers.html
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/blob/main/source/contributors/asf-volunteers.md
> [2]
> https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/blob/main/static/data/people.json
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FYI, ASF volunteers page is live, mentors & speakers are welcome to sign up

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi,

The new "ASF volunteer mentors & speakers" page [0] is live, meant to
replace the unmaintained community.zones.apache.org utilities, which
will soon be redirected to it.

ASF committers are welcome to add their names to that page if you are
willing to be a mentor and/or speaker on ASF topics.

To do so, add your ASF ID to [1] and if desired you can add some
additional information (region, languages spoken, website) to [2].

-Bertrand

[0] https://community.apache.org/contributors/asf-volunteers.html
[1] 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/blob/main/source/contributors/asf-volunteers.md
[2] https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/blob/main/static/data/people.json

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Community over Code Europe 2025

[koteswara Rao Gundapaneni]

I am interested to join the Community over Code Europe 2025



On Mon, 18 Mar 2024, 14:26 Claude Warren,  wrote:

> Is anyone interested in starting work on Community over Code Europe 2025?
> This is the premier ASF conference in Europe.
>
> The 2024 conference is in Bratislava in June [1], and it is probably time
> to start thinking about 2025.  I would be nice to have a leadership team in
> place before CoC EU 2024 so that we can share info and lessons learned
> directly.
>
> Claude Warren
> Chair,
> CoC EU 2024 Organizing Committee.
>
>
>
>
> [1] http://eu.communityovercode.org
>

Re: [DISCUSSION] Community over Code Europe 2025

[Claude Warren]

Claude,

This will get confusing. It is not often I meet another Claude from outside
my family.  I suppose we are both in the family of Claudes.  My father told
a story about a stop in a bus station long ago.  When we meet remind me and
I will tell you.

The planning for 2025 has not yet started.  What I am asking for are people
who are interested in working on the 2025 conference.  I am hoping that
there will be a self organizing group that will run the 2025 conference.
It takes about a year to get everything lined up so it seems to me that the
new organizing committee would want to start by seeing what the 2024
committee did right, and wrong.

Let me know if you are still interested and if you know anybody else who
might be,
Claude Warren

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 6:29 PM Claude Edney 
wrote:

> Sure can you send more information on how to join and schedules?
> Thanks
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 18, 2024, at 4:56 AM, Claude Warren  wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone interested in starting work on Community over Code Europe
> 2025?
> > This is the premier ASF conference in Europe.
> >
> > The 2024 conference is in Bratislava in June [1], and it is probably time
> > to start thinking about 2025.  I would be nice to have a leadership team
> in
> > place before CoC EU 2024 so that we can share info and lessons learned
> > directly.
> >
> > Claude Warren
> > Chair,
> > CoC EU 2024 Organizing Committee.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] http://eu.communityovercode.org
>
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