Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
Thansk Andrew, I could never figure out the svn fiasco On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Better late than never. This is now live: http://cordova.apache.org/#news Might need to hard-refresh the page to see the update. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: cool everyday I learn something new ! published Set to false if you don’t want a specific post to show up when the site is generated. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: You can also set a published bool in the front matter. [1] The svn publish seems down and not getting an answer from infra . =( [1] http://jekyllrb.com/docs/frontmatter/ On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Cool I was just looking at the svn repo found the issues, but it looks like they are fix now To avoid a post to go live just rename file with _ in front www/_posts/_ 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md When is ready to publish just remove '_' from the front and rebuild site `rake build` and then svn commit On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Good feedback: thx Ian and Carlos. Just pushed an update. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@google.com wrote: MIssed this earlier, but here goes: If you are working with a `cordova` generated project then you can install using it. (Plugman is included in the Cordova install.) I don't think this makes sense as a stand-alone paragraph -- I had to read it four times to figure out what the word it refers to. Maybe something like If you are working with a `cordova`-generated project, then you can install plugins using the `cordova` tool as well. (`plugman` is included with `cordova`, and is used by `cordova` internally to manage plugins) You know we release regularily regularly - various native IDE's show generated files I don't know if this means much without mentioning the difference between the `www` directory and the `platforms` directories. Should there be a paragraph earlier about editing the code in `www` and running prepare? - no way to upgrade existing CLI projects Maybe append (this only affects you if you have been beta-testing the `corvoda` tool with Cordova 2.9) - plugin discovery What issue is this referring to? I think it could be worded more clearly, but I'm not sure what it is saying. Maybe we just need to point to a known issues page, where we can detail all of these issues and the current workarounds. Or create JIRA issues for them and link each bullet point to the appropriate bug. Otherwise, it looks good! Ian On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Contents about 3.0 looks awsome but Minor thing the content its swap, it will mess up the permalinks The contents of 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md goes in 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md The contents of 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md goes in 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md --Carlos On Thursday, July 18, 2013, Brian LeRoux wrote: Fuck, its here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/ svn. I tell ya. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io javascript:; wrote: Pls review all: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly destroy and rebuild the project that I hooked the framework source to. I know that people will say that I'm a special case, but the bug tracker says otherwise. Also, we have CordovaWebView,
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
thx breauxs methinks we book a little time to revisit this site. svn uploading gigs of docs and junk is mega uncool. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Thansk Andrew, I could never figure out the svn fiasco On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Better late than never. This is now live: http://cordova.apache.org/#news Might need to hard-refresh the page to see the update. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: cool everyday I learn something new ! published Set to false if you don’t want a specific post to show up when the site is generated. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: You can also set a published bool in the front matter. [1] The svn publish seems down and not getting an answer from infra . =( [1] http://jekyllrb.com/docs/frontmatter/ On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Cool I was just looking at the svn repo found the issues, but it looks like they are fix now To avoid a post to go live just rename file with _ in front www/_posts/_ 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md When is ready to publish just remove '_' from the front and rebuild site `rake build` and then svn commit On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Good feedback: thx Ian and Carlos. Just pushed an update. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@google.com wrote: MIssed this earlier, but here goes: If you are working with a `cordova` generated project then you can install using it. (Plugman is included in the Cordova install.) I don't think this makes sense as a stand-alone paragraph -- I had to read it four times to figure out what the word it refers to. Maybe something like If you are working with a `cordova`-generated project, then you can install plugins using the `cordova` tool as well. (`plugman` is included with `cordova`, and is used by `cordova` internally to manage plugins) You know we release regularily regularly - various native IDE's show generated files I don't know if this means much without mentioning the difference between the `www` directory and the `platforms` directories. Should there be a paragraph earlier about editing the code in `www` and running prepare? - no way to upgrade existing CLI projects Maybe append (this only affects you if you have been beta-testing the `corvoda` tool with Cordova 2.9) - plugin discovery What issue is this referring to? I think it could be worded more clearly, but I'm not sure what it is saying. Maybe we just need to point to a known issues page, where we can detail all of these issues and the current workarounds. Or create JIRA issues for them and link each bullet point to the appropriate bug. Otherwise, it looks good! Ian On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Contents about 3.0 looks awsome but Minor thing the content its swap, it will mess up the permalinks The contents of 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md goes in 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md The contents of 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md goes in 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md --Carlos On Thursday, July 18, 2013, Brian LeRoux wrote: Fuck, its here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/ svn. I tell ya. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io javascript:; wrote: Pls review all: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly destroy and rebuild the
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
MIssed this earlier, but here goes: If you are working with a `cordova` generated project then you can install using it. (Plugman is included in the Cordova install.) I don't think this makes sense as a stand-alone paragraph -- I had to read it four times to figure out what the word it refers to. Maybe something like If you are working with a `cordova`-generated project, then you can install plugins using the `cordova` tool as well. (`plugman` is included with `cordova`, and is used by `cordova` internally to manage plugins) You know we release regularily regularly - various native IDE's show generated files I don't know if this means much without mentioning the difference between the `www` directory and the `platforms` directories. Should there be a paragraph earlier about editing the code in `www` and running prepare? - no way to upgrade existing CLI projects Maybe append (this only affects you if you have been beta-testing the `corvoda` tool with Cordova 2.9) - plugin discovery What issue is this referring to? I think it could be worded more clearly, but I'm not sure what it is saying. Maybe we just need to point to a known issues page, where we can detail all of these issues and the current workarounds. Or create JIRA issues for them and link each bullet point to the appropriate bug. Otherwise, it looks good! Ian On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.comwrote: Contents about 3.0 looks awsome but Minor thing the content its swap, it will mess up the permalinks The contents of 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md goes in 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md The contents of 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md goes in 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md --Carlos On Thursday, July 18, 2013, Brian LeRoux wrote: Fuck, its here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/ svn. I tell ya. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.iojavascript:; wrote: Pls review all: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly destroy and rebuild the project that I hooked the framework source to. I know that people will say that I'm a special case, but the bug tracker says otherwise. Also, we have CordovaWebView, which is a component that isn't even supported with the CLI flow. Just because the CLI is the new hawtness doesn't mean that we should neglect everyone who chooses to actually hack Cordova into something they want. +1 -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
Cool I was just looking at the svn repo found the issues, but it looks like they are fix now To avoid a post to go live just rename file with _ in front www/_posts/_ 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md When is ready to publish just remove '_' from the front and rebuild site `rake build` and then svn commit On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Good feedback: thx Ian and Carlos. Just pushed an update. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@google.com wrote: MIssed this earlier, but here goes: If you are working with a `cordova` generated project then you can install using it. (Plugman is included in the Cordova install.) I don't think this makes sense as a stand-alone paragraph -- I had to read it four times to figure out what the word it refers to. Maybe something like If you are working with a `cordova`-generated project, then you can install plugins using the `cordova` tool as well. (`plugman` is included with `cordova`, and is used by `cordova` internally to manage plugins) You know we release regularily regularly - various native IDE's show generated files I don't know if this means much without mentioning the difference between the `www` directory and the `platforms` directories. Should there be a paragraph earlier about editing the code in `www` and running prepare? - no way to upgrade existing CLI projects Maybe append (this only affects you if you have been beta-testing the `corvoda` tool with Cordova 2.9) - plugin discovery What issue is this referring to? I think it could be worded more clearly, but I'm not sure what it is saying. Maybe we just need to point to a known issues page, where we can detail all of these issues and the current workarounds. Or create JIRA issues for them and link each bullet point to the appropriate bug. Otherwise, it looks good! Ian On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Contents about 3.0 looks awsome but Minor thing the content its swap, it will mess up the permalinks The contents of 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md goes in 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md The contents of 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md goes in 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md --Carlos On Thursday, July 18, 2013, Brian LeRoux wrote: Fuck, its here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/ svn. I tell ya. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io javascript:; wrote: Pls review all: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly destroy and rebuild the project that I hooked the framework source to. I know that people will say that I'm a special case, but the bug tracker says otherwise. Also, we have CordovaWebView, which is a component that isn't even supported with the CLI flow. Just because the CLI is the new hawtness doesn't mean that we should neglect everyone who chooses to actually hack Cordova into something they want. +1 -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
You can also set a published bool in the front matter. [1] The svn publish seems down and not getting an answer from infra . =( [1] http://jekyllrb.com/docs/frontmatter/ On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Cool I was just looking at the svn repo found the issues, but it looks like they are fix now To avoid a post to go live just rename file with _ in front www/_posts/_ 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md When is ready to publish just remove '_' from the front and rebuild site `rake build` and then svn commit On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Good feedback: thx Ian and Carlos. Just pushed an update. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@google.com wrote: MIssed this earlier, but here goes: If you are working with a `cordova` generated project then you can install using it. (Plugman is included in the Cordova install.) I don't think this makes sense as a stand-alone paragraph -- I had to read it four times to figure out what the word it refers to. Maybe something like If you are working with a `cordova`-generated project, then you can install plugins using the `cordova` tool as well. (`plugman` is included with `cordova`, and is used by `cordova` internally to manage plugins) You know we release regularily regularly - various native IDE's show generated files I don't know if this means much without mentioning the difference between the `www` directory and the `platforms` directories. Should there be a paragraph earlier about editing the code in `www` and running prepare? - no way to upgrade existing CLI projects Maybe append (this only affects you if you have been beta-testing the `corvoda` tool with Cordova 2.9) - plugin discovery What issue is this referring to? I think it could be worded more clearly, but I'm not sure what it is saying. Maybe we just need to point to a known issues page, where we can detail all of these issues and the current workarounds. Or create JIRA issues for them and link each bullet point to the appropriate bug. Otherwise, it looks good! Ian On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Contents about 3.0 looks awsome but Minor thing the content its swap, it will mess up the permalinks The contents of 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md goes in 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md The contents of 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md goes in 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md --Carlos On Thursday, July 18, 2013, Brian LeRoux wrote: Fuck, its here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/ svn. I tell ya. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io javascript:; wrote: Pls review all: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly destroy and rebuild the project that I hooked the framework source to. I know that people will say that I'm a special case, but the bug tracker says otherwise. Also, we have CordovaWebView, which is a component that isn't even supported with the CLI flow. Just because the CLI is the new hawtness doesn't mean that we should neglect everyone who chooses to actually hack Cordova into something they want. +1 -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
cool everyday I learn something new ! published Set to false if you don’t want a specific post to show up when the site is generated. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: You can also set a published bool in the front matter. [1] The svn publish seems down and not getting an answer from infra . =( [1] http://jekyllrb.com/docs/frontmatter/ On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Cool I was just looking at the svn repo found the issues, but it looks like they are fix now To avoid a post to go live just rename file with _ in front www/_posts/_ 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md When is ready to publish just remove '_' from the front and rebuild site `rake build` and then svn commit On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Good feedback: thx Ian and Carlos. Just pushed an update. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@google.com wrote: MIssed this earlier, but here goes: If you are working with a `cordova` generated project then you can install using it. (Plugman is included in the Cordova install.) I don't think this makes sense as a stand-alone paragraph -- I had to read it four times to figure out what the word it refers to. Maybe something like If you are working with a `cordova`-generated project, then you can install plugins using the `cordova` tool as well. (`plugman` is included with `cordova`, and is used by `cordova` internally to manage plugins) You know we release regularily regularly - various native IDE's show generated files I don't know if this means much without mentioning the difference between the `www` directory and the `platforms` directories. Should there be a paragraph earlier about editing the code in `www` and running prepare? - no way to upgrade existing CLI projects Maybe append (this only affects you if you have been beta-testing the `corvoda` tool with Cordova 2.9) - plugin discovery What issue is this referring to? I think it could be worded more clearly, but I'm not sure what it is saying. Maybe we just need to point to a known issues page, where we can detail all of these issues and the current workarounds. Or create JIRA issues for them and link each bullet point to the appropriate bug. Otherwise, it looks good! Ian On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Contents about 3.0 looks awsome but Minor thing the content its swap, it will mess up the permalinks The contents of 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md goes in 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md The contents of 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md goes in 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md --Carlos On Thursday, July 18, 2013, Brian LeRoux wrote: Fuck, its here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/ svn. I tell ya. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io javascript:; wrote: Pls review all: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly destroy and rebuild the project that I hooked the framework source to. I know that people will say that I'm a special case, but the bug tracker says otherwise. Also, we have CordovaWebView, which is a component that isn't even supported with the CLI flow. Just because the CLI is the new hawtness doesn't mean that we should neglect everyone who chooses to actually hack Cordova into something they want. +1 -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
Good feedback: thx Ian and Carlos. Just pushed an update. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@google.com wrote: MIssed this earlier, but here goes: If you are working with a `cordova` generated project then you can install using it. (Plugman is included in the Cordova install.) I don't think this makes sense as a stand-alone paragraph -- I had to read it four times to figure out what the word it refers to. Maybe something like If you are working with a `cordova`-generated project, then you can install plugins using the `cordova` tool as well. (`plugman` is included with `cordova`, and is used by `cordova` internally to manage plugins) You know we release regularily regularly - various native IDE's show generated files I don't know if this means much without mentioning the difference between the `www` directory and the `platforms` directories. Should there be a paragraph earlier about editing the code in `www` and running prepare? - no way to upgrade existing CLI projects Maybe append (this only affects you if you have been beta-testing the `corvoda` tool with Cordova 2.9) - plugin discovery What issue is this referring to? I think it could be worded more clearly, but I'm not sure what it is saying. Maybe we just need to point to a known issues page, where we can detail all of these issues and the current workarounds. Or create JIRA issues for them and link each bullet point to the appropriate bug. Otherwise, it looks good! Ian On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.comwrote: Contents about 3.0 looks awsome but Minor thing the content its swap, it will mess up the permalinks The contents of 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md goes in 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md The contents of 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md goes in 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md --Carlos On Thursday, July 18, 2013, Brian LeRoux wrote: Fuck, its here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/ svn. I tell ya. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.iojavascript:; wrote: Pls review all: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly destroy and rebuild the project that I hooked the framework source to. I know that people will say that I'm a special case, but the bug tracker says otherwise. Also, we have CordovaWebView, which is a component that isn't even supported with the CLI flow. Just because the CLI is the new hawtness doesn't mean that we should neglect everyone who chooses to actually hack Cordova into something they want. +1 -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
Pls review all: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly destroy and rebuild the project that I hooked the framework source to. I know that people will say that I'm a special case, but the bug tracker says otherwise. Also, we have CordovaWebView, which is a component that isn't even supported with the CLI flow. Just because the CLI is the new hawtness doesn't mean that we should neglect everyone who chooses to actually hack Cordova into something they want. +1
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
Contents about 3.0 looks awsome but Minor thing the content its swap, it will mess up the permalinks The contents of 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md goes in 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md The contents of 2013-07-19-cordova-3.md goes in 2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md --Carlos On Thursday, July 18, 2013, Brian LeRoux wrote: Fuck, its here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/ svn. I tell ya. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io javascript:; wrote: Pls review all: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova/site/www/_posts/2013-07-08-cordova-has-a-blog.md On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly destroy and rebuild the project that I hooked the framework source to. I know that people will say that I'm a special case, but the bug tracker says otherwise. Also, we have CordovaWebView, which is a component that isn't even supported with the CLI flow. Just because the CLI is the new hawtness doesn't mean that we should neglect everyone who chooses to actually hack Cordova into something they want. +1 -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
I've been hit with some pretty unplanned baby duties today, so don't expect to have much time today to work. I would like to urge someone to take ownership of this task though. Thoughts on what we should say: - Snapshot available on [[download page]] - Introducing new command line tools: plugman CLI - Plugman for existing projects, CLI for those wanting a cross-platform project - Both tools are new, so please expect some and file bugs on [[JIRA]] - Links to upgrade guides - Core plugins no longer exist by default in new projects - Can create your own plugins via [[plugin guide / plugman spec]] - Known Issues: - merges to change soon - whitelist format will be unified soon, but isn't yet - IDE's show generated files - No way to upgrade existing CLI projects - Anything else? On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Created JIRA issue here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4276 Will update the wiki once we're through this release (to flesh out the process) Thank YOU Carlos! On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.comwrote: The Cordova Blog is live http://cordova.apache.org/#news You can use your RSS reader to subscribe A new blog post needs to be added when cutting a new release The step should be added to the Wiki (but I don't access) https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CuttingReleases A tasks you be added to the JIRA item for announcing release (but I can't find the JIRA #) I want to thank Andrew with putting up with me on setting up the blog, me being a noob to the Cordova community -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
I'll do a draft and send a review out sometime this afternoon. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: I've been hit with some pretty unplanned baby duties today, so don't expect to have much time today to work. I would like to urge someone to take ownership of this task though. Thoughts on what we should say: - Snapshot available on [[download page]] - Introducing new command line tools: plugman CLI - Plugman for existing projects, CLI for those wanting a cross-platform project - Both tools are new, so please expect some and file bugs on [[JIRA]] - Links to upgrade guides - Core plugins no longer exist by default in new projects - Can create your own plugins via [[plugin guide / plugman spec]] - Known Issues: - merges to change soon - whitelist format will be unified soon, but isn't yet - IDE's show generated files - No way to upgrade existing CLI projects - Anything else? On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Created JIRA issue here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4276 Will update the wiki once we're through this release (to flesh out the process) Thank YOU Carlos! On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.comwrote: The Cordova Blog is live http://cordova.apache.org/#news You can use your RSS reader to subscribe A new blog post needs to be added when cutting a new release The step should be added to the Wiki (but I don't access) https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CuttingReleases A tasks you be added to the JIRA item for announcing release (but I can't find the JIRA #) I want to thank Andrew with putting up with me on setting up the blog, me being a noob to the Cordova community -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
Do we need to expose plugman? or can we just talk about CLI
Its my understanding that everything can be done with CLI (plugin
[{add|remove|rm} PATH|URI] )
The simpler the better in my opinion.
These two statements contradict to me as noobie (I assume we want to
advertise cordova 3.0.0 first one with official cli support)
- No way to upgrade existing CLI projects
- Plugman for existing projects,
most people should not have existing CLI projects, I vote to keep it simple
and generic
Create a new cordova project using CLI, then use upgrade guide to merge
your existing cordova project with new 3.0.0 generated project.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
I'll do a draft and send a review out sometime this afternoon.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org
wrote:
I've been hit with some pretty unplanned baby duties today, so don't
expect
to have much time today to work. I would like to urge someone to take
ownership of this task though.
Thoughts on what we should say:
- Snapshot available on [[download page]]
- Introducing new command line tools: plugman CLI
- Plugman for existing projects, CLI for those wanting a cross-platform
project
- Both tools are new, so please expect some and file bugs on [[JIRA]]
- Links to upgrade guides
- Core plugins no longer exist by default in new projects
- Can create your own plugins via [[plugin guide / plugman spec]]
- Known Issues:
- merges to change soon
- whitelist format will be unified soon, but isn't yet
- IDE's show generated files
- No way to upgrade existing CLI projects
- Anything else?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org
wrote:
Created JIRA issue here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4276
Will update the wiki once we're through this release (to flesh out the
process)
Thank YOU Carlos!
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
wrote:
The Cordova Blog is live
http://cordova.apache.org/#news
You can use your RSS reader to subscribe
A new blog post needs to be added when cutting a new release
The step should be added to the Wiki (but I don't access)
https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CuttingReleases
A tasks you be added to the JIRA item for announcing release (but I
can't
find the JIRA #)
I want to thank Andrew with putting up with me on setting up the blog,
me
being a noob to the Cordova community
--
Carlos Santana
csantan...@gmail.com
--
Carlos Santana
csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is
the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely
on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of
this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to
have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that
they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to
not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with
the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly
destroy and rebuild the project that I hooked the framework source to.
I know that people will say that I'm a special case, but the bug
tracker says otherwise. Also, we have CordovaWebView, which is a
component that isn't even supported with the CLI flow. Just because
the CLI is the new hawtness doesn't mean that we should neglect
everyone who chooses to actually hack Cordova into something they
want.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote:
Do we need to expose plugman? or can we just talk about CLI
Its my understanding that everything can be done with CLI (plugin
[{add|remove|rm} PATH|URI] )
The simpler the better in my opinion.
These two statements contradict to me as noobie (I assume we want to
advertise cordova 3.0.0 first one with official cli support)
- No way to upgrade existing CLI projects
- Plugman for existing projects,
most people should not have existing CLI projects, I vote to keep it simple
and generic
Create a new cordova project using CLI, then use upgrade guide to merge
your existing cordova project with new 3.0.0 generated project.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
I'll do a draft and send a review out sometime this afternoon.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org
wrote:
I've been hit with some pretty unplanned baby duties today, so don't
expect
to have much time today to work. I would like to urge someone to take
ownership of this task though.
Thoughts on what we should say:
- Snapshot available on [[download page]]
- Introducing new command line tools: plugman CLI
- Plugman for existing projects, CLI for those wanting a cross-platform
project
- Both tools are new, so please expect some and file bugs on [[JIRA]]
- Links to upgrade guides
- Core plugins no longer exist by default in new projects
- Can create your own plugins via [[plugin guide / plugman spec]]
- Known Issues:
- merges to change soon
- whitelist format will be unified soon, but isn't yet
- IDE's show generated files
- No way to upgrade existing CLI projects
- Anything else?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org
wrote:
Created JIRA issue here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4276
Will update the wiki once we're through this release (to flesh out the
process)
Thank YOU Carlos!
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
wrote:
The Cordova Blog is live
http://cordova.apache.org/#news
You can use your RSS reader to subscribe
A new blog post needs to be added when cutting a new release
The step should be added to the Wiki (but I don't access)
https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CuttingReleases
A tasks you be added to the JIRA item for announcing release (but I
can't
find the JIRA #)
I want to thank Andrew with putting up with me on setting up the blog,
me
being a noob to the Cordova community
--
Carlos Santana
csantan...@gmail.com
--
Carlos Santana
csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: The CLI treats the platform code as a build artifact. While this is the goal, the reality is that people modify the code, and people rely on old plugins. There will be users who NEVER use the CLI because of this fact, and will need to use plugman. Just because you want to have people use the software in a particular way doesn't mean that they will, and we should provide some support for people who want to not use the CLI. I don't use the CLI, because I actually work with the platform source on a regular basis and I don't want to constantly destroy and rebuild the project that I hooked the framework source to. I know that people will say that I'm a special case, but the bug tracker says otherwise. Also, we have CordovaWebView, which is a component that isn't even supported with the CLI flow. Just because the CLI is the new hawtness doesn't mean that we should neglect everyone who chooses to actually hack Cordova into something they want. +1
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
I get in at the same time ...svn co on the train is slow but I'll
have a draft before the day is done.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote:
Brian, I can help with this in case you don't get a chance to do it. I will
be landing in Portland around 3pm.
On Jul 17, 2013 11:36 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote:
Do we need to expose plugman? or can we just talk about CLI
Its my understanding that everything can be done with CLI (plugin
[{add|remove|rm} PATH|URI] )
The simpler the better in my opinion.
These two statements contradict to me as noobie (I assume we want to
advertise cordova 3.0.0 first one with official cli support)
- No way to upgrade existing CLI projects
- Plugman for existing projects,
most people should not have existing CLI projects, I vote to keep it simple
and generic
Create a new cordova project using CLI, then use upgrade guide to merge
your existing cordova project with new 3.0.0 generated project.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
I'll do a draft and send a review out sometime this afternoon.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org
wrote:
I've been hit with some pretty unplanned baby duties today, so don't
expect
to have much time today to work. I would like to urge someone to take
ownership of this task though.
Thoughts on what we should say:
- Snapshot available on [[download page]]
- Introducing new command line tools: plugman CLI
- Plugman for existing projects, CLI for those wanting a cross-platform
project
- Both tools are new, so please expect some and file bugs on [[JIRA]]
- Links to upgrade guides
- Core plugins no longer exist by default in new projects
- Can create your own plugins via [[plugin guide / plugman spec]]
- Known Issues:
- merges to change soon
- whitelist format will be unified soon, but isn't yet
- IDE's show generated files
- No way to upgrade existing CLI projects
- Anything else?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org
wrote:
Created JIRA issue here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4276
Will update the wiki once we're through this release (to flesh out the
process)
Thank YOU Carlos!
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
wrote:
The Cordova Blog is live
http://cordova.apache.org/#news
You can use your RSS reader to subscribe
A new blog post needs to be added when cutting a new release
The step should be added to the Wiki (but I don't access)
https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CuttingReleases
A tasks you be added to the JIRA item for announcing release (but I
can't
find the JIRA #)
I want to thank Andrew with putting up with me on setting up the
blog,
me
being a noob to the Cordova community
--
Carlos Santana
csantan...@gmail.com
--
Carlos Santana
csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Cordova has a Blog/News! Announce 3.0?
Created JIRA issue here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4276 Will update the wiki once we're through this release (to flesh out the process) Thank YOU Carlos! On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.comwrote: The Cordova Blog is live http://cordova.apache.org/#news You can use your RSS reader to subscribe A new blog post needs to be added when cutting a new release The step should be added to the Wiki (but I don't access) https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CuttingReleases A tasks you be added to the JIRA item for announcing release (but I can't find the JIRA #) I want to thank Andrew with putting up with me on setting up the blog, me being a noob to the Cordova community -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
