[jira] Created: (GERONIMO-4118) Deployer GShell commands do not support offline deployment

2008-06-16 Thread Jarek Gawor (JIRA)
Deployer GShell commands do not support offline deployment
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 Key: GERONIMO-4118
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-4118
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Security Level: public (Regular issues)
  Components: commands
Affects Versions: 2.1.x, 2.2
Reporter: Jarek Gawor


Deployer GShell commands do not support offline deployment.


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Re: New openejb deployer has very different assumptions than the rest of the deployment system-- not compatible with offline deployment

2007-08-03 Thread toby cabot
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 03:02:54PM -0800, David Jencks wrote:
 Previously we went to a lot of trouble to make sure that every bit of  
 deployment code ran without any runtime components started.  I would  
 like to know if this new dependency is intentional, and essential.  I  
 don't think we should introduce such a very large change in  
 philosophy about the geronimo server architecture without  discussion.

Hi folks,

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I was curious what's up with
this.  I just got a spiffy new PC which led to some poking around in
the offline deployer code to find out why there's 10s of dead air
everytime I run an offline deployment command.  Turns out that it's in
the active MQ code - there are two connections and for some reason
each connection shutdown sits for ~5s.

But that leads to a different question, which is why does the offline
deployer tool start active MQ?  I found that when the
OfflineDeployerStarter.startPersistentOfflineConfigurations() method
starts the openejb-deployer config a whole mess of other things
start, including active MQ.

This is where I start to lose the trail.  In the openejb-deployer
there are some module/gbean/xml-attribute/environment/dependencies,
which in this case are openejb, openejb-core, geronimo-openejb, and
system-database, but I don't see active MQ.  Is active MQ a dependency
of one of these dependencies?

I guess that offline deployment isn't a popular feature so I don't
expect this to be a high priority issue but I think there was
consensus back in February that this should be fixed before the thread
went cold.  I'll help if I can, but I'm at the limits of my Geronimo
knowledge so pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Toby


Re: New openejb deployer has very different assumptions than the rest of the deployment system-- not compatible with offline deployment

2007-08-03 Thread David Jencks
I think this is a very important issue and I apologize for letting it  
slide under my radar.  I still don't know enough about openejb3 to  
know how to  fix it myself.  I guess I think the release notes for  
2.0 should include a warning saying that use of the offline deployer  
for ejb apps is not advised.


It's pretty easy to see why activemq is being started:

openejb-deployer needed to deploy your ejb app
openejb-deployer requires openejb (runtime) to be running in order to  
work (this is the problem)
openejb requires activemq (I imagine this is basically for  
convenience, but I don't actually know how tied openejb is to a  
particular jms implementation (amq))


thanks for bringing this up again.

david jencks

On Aug 3, 2007, at 12:07 PM, toby cabot wrote:


On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 03:02:54PM -0800, David Jencks wrote:

Previously we went to a lot of trouble to make sure that every bit of
deployment code ran without any runtime components started.  I would
like to know if this new dependency is intentional, and essential.  I
don't think we should introduce such a very large change in
philosophy about the geronimo server architecture without   
discussion.


Hi folks,

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I was curious what's up with
this.  I just got a spiffy new PC which led to some poking around in
the offline deployer code to find out why there's 10s of dead air
everytime I run an offline deployment command.  Turns out that it's in
the active MQ code - there are two connections and for some reason
each connection shutdown sits for ~5s.

But that leads to a different question, which is why does the offline
deployer tool start active MQ?  I found that when the
OfflineDeployerStarter.startPersistentOfflineConfigurations() method
starts the openejb-deployer config a whole mess of other things
start, including active MQ.

This is where I start to lose the trail.  In the openejb-deployer
there are some module/gbean/xml-attribute/environment/dependencies,
which in this case are openejb, openejb-core, geronimo-openejb, and
system-database, but I don't see active MQ.  Is active MQ a dependency
of one of these dependencies?

I guess that offline deployment isn't a popular feature so I don't
expect this to be a high priority issue but I think there was
consensus back in February that this should be fixed before the thread
went cold.  I'll help if I can, but I'm at the limits of my Geronimo
knowledge so pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Toby




Re: New openejb deployer has very different assumptions than the rest of the deployment system-- not compatible with offline deployment

2007-08-03 Thread toby cabot
Thanks for the info, David, and the quick response.  I've monkeyed
around a little more and it looks as if the axis-deployer,
axis2-deployer and cxf-deployer also start active MQ as a side effect.
Evidently my application doesn't use any of these features because I
can disable them in deployer-config.xml (and add j2ee-system which
appears to be necessary) and the offline deployer still deploys my
application just fine and runs a *lot* faster.

If you'd like I'll log a bug with this info.

Thanks again,
Toby


[jira] Updated: (GERONIMO-2765) Offline deployment broken in geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT

2007-06-12 Thread Donald Woods (JIRA)

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 ]

Donald Woods updated GERONIMO-2765:
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Affects Version/s: (was: 1.1.2)
   1.2
Fix Version/s: (was: 1.1.2)

  Offline deployment broken in geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT
 ---

 Key: GERONIMO-2765
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2765
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: Bug
  Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
  Components: deployment
Affects Versions: 1.2
 Environment: All
Reporter: Leonard Flournoy

 Steps to reproduce offline deployment failure with geronimo-tomcat-j2ee
 configuration of Geronimo 1.2.
 1. Display OS  Java version information:
   $ cat /proc/version 
   Linux version 2.6.9-42.0.3.ELsmp
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.4.6 20060404
 (Red Hat 3.4.6-3)) #1 SMP Mon Sep 25 17:28:02 EDT 2006  
   $ java -version
   java version 1.5.0_09
   Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_09-b03)
   Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.5.0_09-b03, mixed mode)  
 2. Check out geronimo v1.2  display version information:
   $ svn checkout
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/branches/1.2
 geronimo-1.2
   $ svn info
   Path: .
   URL: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/branches/1.2
   Repository UUID: 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
   Revision: 498232
   ...
 3. Build:
   $ cd geronimo-1.2
   $ mvn clean install
 4. Extract geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT-bin.tar.gz:
   $ cd ~
   $ tar -xzf
 geronimo-1.2/assemblies/geronimo-tomcat-j2ee/target/geronimo-tomcat-j2ee
 -1.2-SNAPSHOT-bin.tar.gz
 5. Start geronimo (to confirm a working installation):
   $ cd geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT
   $ bin/geronimo.sh start
 6. Perform online deployment/undeployment:
   $ bin/deploy.sh deploy
 ~/wasce_samples/applications/hello/target/hello-1.1.1.war
 ~/wasce_samples/applications/hello/target/hello-1.1.1-web.xml
   $ bin/deploy.sh undeploy wasce-samples/hello//war
 7. Stop Geronimo:
   $ bin/geronimo.sh stop
 8. Attempt an offline deployment (war file and deployment plan
 attached):
   $ bin/deploy.sh --offline deploy
 ~/wasce_samples/applications/hello/target/hello-1.1.1.war
 ~/wasce_samples/applications/hello/target/hello-1.1.1-web.xml
   Using GERONIMO_BASE:   /home/eric/geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT
   Using GERONIMO_HOME:   /home/eric/geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT
   Using GERONIMO_TMPDIR:
 /home/eric/geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT/var/temp
   Using JRE_HOME:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_09/jre
   Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
 org/apache/geronimo/deployment/ModuleConfigurer
 at
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.init(ServerConnect
 ion.java:207)
 at
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:15
 7)
 at
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.main(DeployTool.java:314)

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[jira] Closed: (GERONIMO-3183) fix offline deployment in minimal configurations

2007-06-07 Thread Donald Woods (JIRA)

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Donald Woods closed GERONIMO-3183.
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 fix offline deployment in minimal configurations
 

 Key: GERONIMO-3183
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3183
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: Bug
  Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
  Components: deployment
Affects Versions: 2.0-M6
 Environment: Fedora Core 4
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)
Reporter: toby cabot
Assignee: Donald Woods
 Fix For: 2.0-M6

 Attachments: minimal-offline-patch.txt


 The deployer's offline mode in the jetty6-minimal and tomcat6-minimal 
 assemblies throws:
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.LifecycleException: load of 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car failed
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:274)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:253)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(KernelConfigurationManager.java:112)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager$$FastClassByCGLIB$$b117102f.invoke()
 at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:127)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:820)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.RawInvoker.invoke(RawInvoker.java:57)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.RawOperationInvoker.invoke(RawOperationInvoker.java:35)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.ProxyMethodInterceptor.intercept(ProxyMethodInterceptor.java:96)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.GBeanLifecycle$$EnhancerByCGLIB$$26ac0679.loadConfiguration()
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.startPersistentOfflineConfigurations(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:120)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.start(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:71)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.startOfflineDeployer(ServerConnection.java:102)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.(ServerConnection.java:90)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:158)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.util.MainConfigurationBootstrapper.main(MainConfigurationBootstrapper.java:45)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.AbstractCLI.executeMain(AbstractCLI.java:67)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.deployer.DeployerCLI.main(DeployerCLI.java:31)
 Caused by: org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.NoSuchConfigException: 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfigurationData(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:457)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:271)
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Should DisconnectedDeploymentManager allow offline deployment?

2007-05-23 Thread Sachin Patel
The distribute method of the DisconnectedDeploymentManager returns an  
IllegalStateException.  Should this still remain a restriction with  
the new offline deployment support? Or is there much more additional  
work required to support offline deployment through JSR88?


thx

-sachin




Re: Should DisconnectedDeploymentManager allow offline deployment?

2007-05-23 Thread Sachin Patel
no, I didn't read the spec..  I just assumed it was optional or  
something, rather then a spec violation. No I don't think it is  
currently using it.


thx

-sachin


On May 23, 2007, at 11:33 AM, David Jencks wrote:

Have you checked the specs on the disconnected deployment manager?   
IIRC by spec it can't deploy, distribute, undeploy, redeploy.  
or do anything except give you access to the DConfigBeans.


In particular the offline deployer should not be trying to use a  
disconnected deployment manager.  Is it currently?


thanks
david jencks

On May 23, 2007, at 6:33 AM, Sachin Patel wrote:

The distribute method of the DisconnectedDeploymentManager returns  
an IllegalStateException.  Should this still remain a restriction  
with the new offline deployment support? Or is there much more  
additional work required to support offline deployment through JSR88?


thx

-sachin








Re: Should DisconnectedDeploymentManager allow offline deployment?

2007-05-23 Thread David Jencks
Have you checked the specs on the disconnected deployment manager?   
IIRC by spec it can't deploy, distribute, undeploy, redeploy. or  
do anything except give you access to the DConfigBeans.


In particular the offline deployer should not be trying to use a  
disconnected deployment manager.  Is it currently?


thanks
david jencks

On May 23, 2007, at 6:33 AM, Sachin Patel wrote:

The distribute method of the DisconnectedDeploymentManager returns  
an IllegalStateException.  Should this still remain a restriction  
with the new offline deployment support? Or is there much more  
additional work required to support offline deployment through JSR88?


thx

-sachin






[jira] Created: (GERONIMO-3183) fix offline deployment in minimal configurations

2007-05-22 Thread toby cabot (JIRA)
fix offline deployment in minimal configurations


 Key: GERONIMO-3183
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3183
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: Bug
  Security Level: public (Regular issues)
  Components: deployment
Affects Versions: 2.0-M6
 Environment: Fedora Core 4
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)

Reporter: toby cabot
 Fix For: 2.0-M6


The deployer's offline mode in the jetty6-minimal and tomcat6-minimal 
assemblies throws:

org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.LifecycleException: load of 
org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car failed
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:274)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:253)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(KernelConfigurationManager.java:112)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager$$FastClassByCGLIB$$b117102f.invoke()
at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:127)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:820)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.RawInvoker.invoke(RawInvoker.java:57)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.RawOperationInvoker.invoke(RawOperationInvoker.java:35)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.ProxyMethodInterceptor.intercept(ProxyMethodInterceptor.java:96)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.gbean.GBeanLifecycle$$EnhancerByCGLIB$$26ac0679.loadConfiguration()
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.startPersistentOfflineConfigurations(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:120)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.start(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:71)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.startOfflineDeployer(ServerConnection.java:102)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.(ServerConnection.java:90)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:158)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.util.MainConfigurationBootstrapper.main(MainConfigurationBootstrapper.java:45)
at org.apache.geronimo.cli.AbstractCLI.executeMain(AbstractCLI.java:67)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.cli.deployer.DeployerCLI.main(DeployerCLI.java:31)
Caused by: org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.NoSuchConfigException: 
org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfigurationData(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:457)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:271)
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[jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-3183) fix offline deployment in minimal configurations

2007-05-22 Thread toby cabot (JIRA)

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toby cabot commented on GERONIMO-3183:
--

Chunks 5-8 fix these stack traces.  They're unlikely to appear in normal 
operations but might be seen during development:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/download$ geronimo-jetty6-minimal-2.0-SNAPSHOT/bin/deploy.sh 
-o list-modules 
Using GERONIMO_BASE:   /download/geronimo-jetty6-minimal-2.0-SNAPSHOT
Using GERONIMO_HOME:   /download/geronimo-jetty6-minimal-2.0-SNAPSHOT
Using GERONIMO_TMPDIR: var/temp
Using JRE_HOME:/usr/java/jdk1.6.0_01/jre
Error: Unable to query modules
javax.enterprise.deploy.spi.exceptions.TargetException
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.plugin.jmx.JMXDeploymentManager.getModules(JMXDeploymentManager.java:175)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.plugin.jmx.JMXDeploymentManager.getRunningModules(JMXDeploymentManager.java:136)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.CommandListModules.execute(CommandListModules.java:63)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:161)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.util.MainConfigurationBootstrapper.main(MainConfigurationBootstrapper.java:45)
at org.apache.geronimo.cli.AbstractCLI.executeMain(AbstractCLI.java:67)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.cli.deployer.DeployerCLI.main(DeployerCLI.java:31)
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.plugin.jmx.JMXDeploymentManager.getModules(JMXDeploymentManager.java:149)
... 6 more

... and ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/download$ geronimo-jetty6-minimal-2.0-SNAPSHOT/bin/deploy.sh 
-o list-targets 
Using GERONIMO_BASE:   /download/geronimo-jetty6-minimal-2.0-SNAPSHOT
Using GERONIMO_HOME:   /download/geronimo-jetty6-minimal-2.0-SNAPSHOT
Using GERONIMO_TMPDIR: var/temp
Using JRE_HOME:/usr/java/jdk1.6.0_01/jre
Available Targets:
Exception in thread main java.lang.NullPointerException
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.CommandListTargets.execute(CommandListTargets.java:37)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:161)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.util.MainConfigurationBootstrapper.main(MainConfigurationBootstrapper.java:45)
at org.apache.geronimo.cli.AbstractCLI.executeMain(AbstractCLI.java:67)
at 
org.apache.geronimo.cli.deployer.DeployerCLI.main(DeployerCLI.java:31)


 fix offline deployment in minimal configurations
 

 Key: GERONIMO-3183
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3183
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: Bug
  Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
  Components: deployment
Affects Versions: 2.0-M6
 Environment: Fedora Core 4
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)
Reporter: toby cabot
 Fix For: 2.0-M6

 Attachments: minimal-offline-patch.txt


 The deployer's offline mode in the jetty6-minimal and tomcat6-minimal 
 assemblies throws:
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.LifecycleException: load of 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car failed
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:274)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:253)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(KernelConfigurationManager.java:112)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager$$FastClassByCGLIB$$b117102f.invoke()
 at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:127)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:820)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.RawInvoker.invoke(RawInvoker.java:57)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.RawOperationInvoker.invoke(RawOperationInvoker.java:35)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.ProxyMethodInterceptor.intercept(ProxyMethodInterceptor.java:96)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.GBeanLifecycle$$EnhancerByCGLIB$$26ac0679.loadConfiguration()
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.startPersistentOfflineConfigurations(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:120)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.start(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:71)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.startOfflineDeployer(ServerConnection.java:102

[jira] Updated: (GERONIMO-3183) fix offline deployment in minimal configurations

2007-05-22 Thread toby cabot (JIRA)

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3183?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

toby cabot updated GERONIMO-3183:
-

Attachment: minimal-offline-patch.txt

This patch makes a few changes.  The most important are to add 
persistence-jpa10-deployer to the minimal assembly pom.xml files, add the 
j2ee-system config to the offline-deployer-config.xml files and sync the jetty 
and tomcat offline-deployer-config.xml files.

Along the way I fixed some stack traces caused when no modules or targets can 
be found (which is not a typical condition) and improved the diagnostics when 
more than one ConfigurationManager is found (which is also not typical).



 fix offline deployment in minimal configurations
 

 Key: GERONIMO-3183
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3183
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: Bug
  Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
  Components: deployment
Affects Versions: 2.0-M6
 Environment: Fedora Core 4
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)
Reporter: toby cabot
 Fix For: 2.0-M6

 Attachments: minimal-offline-patch.txt


 The deployer's offline mode in the jetty6-minimal and tomcat6-minimal 
 assemblies throws:
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.LifecycleException: load of 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car failed
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:274)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:253)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(KernelConfigurationManager.java:112)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager$$FastClassByCGLIB$$b117102f.invoke()
 at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:127)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:820)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.RawInvoker.invoke(RawInvoker.java:57)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.RawOperationInvoker.invoke(RawOperationInvoker.java:35)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.ProxyMethodInterceptor.intercept(ProxyMethodInterceptor.java:96)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.GBeanLifecycle$$EnhancerByCGLIB$$26ac0679.loadConfiguration()
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.startPersistentOfflineConfigurations(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:120)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.start(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:71)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.startOfflineDeployer(ServerConnection.java:102)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.(ServerConnection.java:90)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:158)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.util.MainConfigurationBootstrapper.main(MainConfigurationBootstrapper.java:45)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.AbstractCLI.executeMain(AbstractCLI.java:67)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.deployer.DeployerCLI.main(DeployerCLI.java:31)
 Caused by: org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.NoSuchConfigException: 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfigurationData(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:457)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:271)
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[jira] Assigned: (GERONIMO-3183) fix offline deployment in minimal configurations

2007-05-22 Thread Donald Woods (JIRA)

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Donald Woods reassigned GERONIMO-3183:
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Assignee: Donald Woods

 fix offline deployment in minimal configurations
 

 Key: GERONIMO-3183
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3183
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: Bug
  Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
  Components: deployment
Affects Versions: 2.0-M6
 Environment: Fedora Core 4
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)
Reporter: toby cabot
 Assigned To: Donald Woods
 Fix For: 2.0-M6

 Attachments: minimal-offline-patch.txt


 The deployer's offline mode in the jetty6-minimal and tomcat6-minimal 
 assemblies throws:
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.LifecycleException: load of 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car failed
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:274)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:253)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(KernelConfigurationManager.java:112)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager$$FastClassByCGLIB$$b117102f.invoke()
 at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:127)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:820)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.RawInvoker.invoke(RawInvoker.java:57)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.RawOperationInvoker.invoke(RawOperationInvoker.java:35)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.ProxyMethodInterceptor.intercept(ProxyMethodInterceptor.java:96)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.GBeanLifecycle$$EnhancerByCGLIB$$26ac0679.loadConfiguration()
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.startPersistentOfflineConfigurations(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:120)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.start(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:71)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.startOfflineDeployer(ServerConnection.java:102)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.(ServerConnection.java:90)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:158)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.util.MainConfigurationBootstrapper.main(MainConfigurationBootstrapper.java:45)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.AbstractCLI.executeMain(AbstractCLI.java:67)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.deployer.DeployerCLI.main(DeployerCLI.java:31)
 Caused by: org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.NoSuchConfigException: 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfigurationData(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:457)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:271)
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[jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-3183) fix offline deployment in minimal configurations

2007-05-22 Thread Donald Woods (JIRA)

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 ] 

Donald Woods commented on GERONIMO-3183:


When I apply the patch, I still cannot deploy the Servlet-Examples war to the 
minimal Tomcat assembly using

   deploy -o deploy servlet-examples-2.0-SNAPSHOT.war

due to the persistant-jpa-deployer having a dependency on the openjpa config -

Caused by:
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.repository.MissingDependencyException:
Unable to resolve dependency
org.apache.geronimo.configs/openjpa//car


 fix offline deployment in minimal configurations
 

 Key: GERONIMO-3183
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3183
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: Bug
  Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
  Components: deployment
Affects Versions: 2.0-M6
 Environment: Fedora Core 4
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)
Reporter: toby cabot
 Assigned To: Donald Woods
 Fix For: 2.0-M6

 Attachments: minimal-offline-patch.txt


 The deployer's offline mode in the jetty6-minimal and tomcat6-minimal 
 assemblies throws:
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.LifecycleException: load of 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car failed
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:274)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:253)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(KernelConfigurationManager.java:112)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager$$FastClassByCGLIB$$b117102f.invoke()
 at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:127)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:820)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.RawInvoker.invoke(RawInvoker.java:57)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.RawOperationInvoker.invoke(RawOperationInvoker.java:35)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.ProxyMethodInterceptor.intercept(ProxyMethodInterceptor.java:96)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.GBeanLifecycle$$EnhancerByCGLIB$$26ac0679.loadConfiguration()
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.startPersistentOfflineConfigurations(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:120)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.start(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:71)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.startOfflineDeployer(ServerConnection.java:102)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.(ServerConnection.java:90)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:158)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.util.MainConfigurationBootstrapper.main(MainConfigurationBootstrapper.java:45)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.AbstractCLI.executeMain(AbstractCLI.java:67)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.deployer.DeployerCLI.main(DeployerCLI.java:31)
 Caused by: org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.NoSuchConfigException: 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfigurationData(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:457)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:271)
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[jira] Commented: (GERONIMO-3183) fix offline deployment in minimal configurations

2007-05-22 Thread Donald Woods (JIRA)

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 ] 

Donald Woods commented on GERONIMO-3183:


Committed revision 540803 in trunk.
Applied the second-half of the patch, which adds some improved diagnostics.
Offline deployment still fails in the minimal assemblies for the Servlet 
examples war


 fix offline deployment in minimal configurations
 

 Key: GERONIMO-3183
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3183
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: Bug
  Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
  Components: deployment
Affects Versions: 2.0-M6
 Environment: Fedora Core 4
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)
Reporter: toby cabot
 Assigned To: Donald Woods
 Fix For: 2.0-M6

 Attachments: minimal-offline-patch.txt


 The deployer's offline mode in the jetty6-minimal and tomcat6-minimal 
 assemblies throws:
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.LifecycleException: load of 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car failed
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:274)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:253)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(KernelConfigurationManager.java:112)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager$$FastClassByCGLIB$$b117102f.invoke()
 at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:127)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:820)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.RawInvoker.invoke(RawInvoker.java:57)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.RawOperationInvoker.invoke(RawOperationInvoker.java:35)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.ProxyMethodInterceptor.intercept(ProxyMethodInterceptor.java:96)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.GBeanLifecycle$$EnhancerByCGLIB$$26ac0679.loadConfiguration()
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.startPersistentOfflineConfigurations(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:120)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.start(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:71)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.startOfflineDeployer(ServerConnection.java:102)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.(ServerConnection.java:90)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:158)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.util.MainConfigurationBootstrapper.main(MainConfigurationBootstrapper.java:45)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.AbstractCLI.executeMain(AbstractCLI.java:67)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.deployer.DeployerCLI.main(DeployerCLI.java:31)
 Caused by: org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.NoSuchConfigException: 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfigurationData(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:457)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:271)
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[jira] Resolved: (GERONIMO-3183) fix offline deployment in minimal configurations

2007-05-22 Thread Donald Woods (JIRA)

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3183?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

Donald Woods resolved GERONIMO-3183.


Resolution: Fixed
Regression: [Regression]

Committed revision 540815 in trunk.
Updated offline deplyer configs and verified that servlets-examples can be 
deployed to the minimal-tomcat assembly.
The minimal configs no longer include the jpa10-deployer, as they did not 
include openjpa.
Toby, thanks for testing this and supplying a patch.

 fix offline deployment in minimal configurations
 

 Key: GERONIMO-3183
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3183
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: Bug
  Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
  Components: deployment
Affects Versions: 2.0-M6
 Environment: Fedora Core 4
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)
Reporter: toby cabot
 Assigned To: Donald Woods
 Fix For: 2.0-M6

 Attachments: minimal-offline-patch.txt


 The deployer's offline mode in the jetty6-minimal and tomcat6-minimal 
 assemblies throws:
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.LifecycleException: load of 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car failed
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:274)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:253)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(KernelConfigurationManager.java:112)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.KernelConfigurationManager$$FastClassByCGLIB$$b117102f.invoke()
 at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:127)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:820)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.RawInvoker.invoke(RawInvoker.java:57)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.RawOperationInvoker.invoke(RawOperationInvoker.java:35)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.basic.ProxyMethodInterceptor.intercept(ProxyMethodInterceptor.java:96)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.gbean.GBeanLifecycle$$EnhancerByCGLIB$$26ac0679.loadConfiguration()
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.startPersistentOfflineConfigurations(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:120)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.OfflineDeployerStarter.start(OfflineDeployerStarter.java:71)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.startOfflineDeployer(ServerConnection.java:102)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.(ServerConnection.java:90)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:158)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.util.MainConfigurationBootstrapper.main(MainConfigurationBootstrapper.java:45)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.AbstractCLI.executeMain(AbstractCLI.java:67)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.cli.deployer.DeployerCLI.main(DeployerCLI.java:31)
 Caused by: org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.NoSuchConfigException: 
 org.apache.geronimo.configs/persistence-jpa10-deployer/2.0-SNAPSHOT/car
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfigurationData(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:457)
 at 
 org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.SimpleConfigurationManager.loadConfiguration(SimpleConfigurationManager.java:271)
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Re: New openejb deployer has very different assumptions than the rest of the deployment system-- not compatible with offline deployment

2007-02-11 Thread David Jencks


On Feb 10, 2007, at 6:54 PM, David Blevins wrote:



On Feb 10, 2007, at 3:02 PM, David Jencks wrote:

The new trunk openejb-deployer module requires the openejb module  
to be running (started) due to a reference from the deployer gbean  
to the OpenEjbSystem gbean.


This means that you need an entirely started geronimo server to  
deploy any ejbs. In particular this is inconsistent with the idea  
of the offline deployer, which we need to assume won't open any  
ports.


Previously we went to a lot of trouble to make sure that every bit  
of deployment code ran without any runtime components started.  I  
would like to know if this new dependency is intentional, and  
essential.  I don't think we should introduce such a very large  
change in philosophy about the geronimo server architecture  
without  discussion.


Should be easy to fix.  Is there an offline deployer somewhere I  
can update?


The list of modules started for the offline deployer is in var/config/ 
offline-deployer.list, but gianny has a better way to run the offline  
deployer in the works.


However, I don't see how that is relevant to my comment.  The offline  
deployer shouldn't be starting runtime components, so the current  
offline-deployer-list should continue to be correct (as far as  
openejb goes anyway, maybe not cxf/axis2).  Looking at the current  
openejb module plan I see that it won't open any ports but does  
require the transaction manager to start up which attempts full  
transaction recovery.  This is really not appropriate for offline  
deployment.


thanks
david jencks



-David





Re: New openejb deployer has very different assumptions than the rest of the deployment system-- not compatible with offline deployment

2007-02-11 Thread David Blevins


On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:04 PM, David Jencks wrote:



On Feb 10, 2007, at 6:54 PM, David Blevins wrote:



On Feb 10, 2007, at 3:02 PM, David Jencks wrote:

The new trunk openejb-deployer module requires the openejb module  
to be running (started) due to a reference from the deployer  
gbean to the OpenEjbSystem gbean.


This means that you need an entirely started geronimo server to  
deploy any ejbs. In particular this is inconsistent with the idea  
of the offline deployer, which we need to assume won't open any  
ports.


Previously we went to a lot of trouble to make sure that every  
bit of deployment code ran without any runtime components  
started.  I would like to know if this new dependency is  
intentional, and essential.  I don't think we should introduce  
such a very large change in philosophy about the geronimo server  
architecture without  discussion.


Should be easy to fix.  Is there an offline deployer somewhere I  
can update?


The list of modules started for the offline deployer is in var/ 
config/offline-deployer.list, but gianny has a better way to run  
the offline deployer in the works.


However, I don't see how that is relevant to my comment.


Sorry, but I don't really get what to put what where.  OpenEJB-wise,  
I can get you an online deployer and an offline deployer as fast as  
flicking a switch -- we support both.  I'm just trying to understand  
what do to on the Geronimo side.


We only have one config for an openejb-deployer.  Do we want an  
online one (capable of adding containers etc based on the needs of  
the app) and an offline one or just an offline one or just an online  
one?


I'm cool with whatever.

-David






New openejb deployer has very different assumptions than the rest of the deployment system-- not compatible with offline deployment

2007-02-10 Thread David Jencks
The new trunk openejb-deployer module requires the openejb module to  
be running (started) due to a reference from the deployer gbean to  
the OpenEjbSystem gbean.


This means that you need an entirely started geronimo server to  
deploy any ejbs. In particular this is inconsistent with the idea of  
the offline deployer, which we need to assume won't open any ports.


Previously we went to a lot of trouble to make sure that every bit of  
deployment code ran without any runtime components started.  I would  
like to know if this new dependency is intentional, and essential.  I  
don't think we should introduce such a very large change in  
philosophy about the geronimo server architecture without  discussion.


thanks
david jencks



Re: New openejb deployer has very different assumptions than the rest of the deployment system-- not compatible with offline deployment

2007-02-10 Thread David Blevins


On Feb 10, 2007, at 3:02 PM, David Jencks wrote:

The new trunk openejb-deployer module requires the openejb module  
to be running (started) due to a reference from the deployer gbean  
to the OpenEjbSystem gbean.


This means that you need an entirely started geronimo server to  
deploy any ejbs. In particular this is inconsistent with the idea  
of the offline deployer, which we need to assume won't open any ports.


Previously we went to a lot of trouble to make sure that every bit  
of deployment code ran without any runtime components started.  I  
would like to know if this new dependency is intentional, and  
essential.  I don't think we should introduce such a very large  
change in philosophy about the geronimo server architecture  
without  discussion.


Should be easy to fix.  Is there an offline deployer somewhere I can  
update?


-David



[jira] Created: (GERONIMO-2765) Offline deployment broken in geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT

2007-01-22 Thread Leonard Flournoy (JIRA)
 Offline deployment broken in geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT
---

 Key: GERONIMO-2765
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2765
 Project: Geronimo
  Issue Type: Bug
  Security Level: public (Regular issues)
  Components: deployment
Affects Versions: 1.1.2
 Environment: All
Reporter: Leonard Flournoy
 Fix For: 1.1.2


Steps to reproduce offline deployment failure with geronimo-tomcat-j2ee
configuration of Geronimo 1.2.

1. Display OS  Java version information:

  $ cat /proc/version 
  Linux version 2.6.9-42.0.3.ELsmp
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.4.6 20060404
(Red Hat 3.4.6-3)) #1 SMP Mon Sep 25 17:28:02 EDT 2006  
  $ java -version
  java version 1.5.0_09
  Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_09-b03)
  Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.5.0_09-b03, mixed mode)  

2. Check out geronimo v1.2  display version information:

  $ svn checkout
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/branches/1.2
geronimo-1.2
  $ svn info
  Path: .
  URL: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/branches/1.2
  Repository UUID: 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
  Revision: 498232
  ...

3. Build:

  $ cd geronimo-1.2
  $ mvn clean install

4. Extract geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT-bin.tar.gz:

  $ cd ~
  $ tar -xzf
geronimo-1.2/assemblies/geronimo-tomcat-j2ee/target/geronimo-tomcat-j2ee
-1.2-SNAPSHOT-bin.tar.gz

5. Start geronimo (to confirm a working installation):

  $ cd geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT
  $ bin/geronimo.sh start

6. Perform online deployment/undeployment:

  $ bin/deploy.sh deploy
~/wasce_samples/applications/hello/target/hello-1.1.1.war
~/wasce_samples/applications/hello/target/hello-1.1.1-web.xml
  $ bin/deploy.sh undeploy wasce-samples/hello//war

7. Stop Geronimo:

  $ bin/geronimo.sh stop

8. Attempt an offline deployment (war file and deployment plan
attached):

  $ bin/deploy.sh --offline deploy
~/wasce_samples/applications/hello/target/hello-1.1.1.war
~/wasce_samples/applications/hello/target/hello-1.1.1-web.xml
  Using GERONIMO_BASE:   /home/eric/geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT
  Using GERONIMO_HOME:   /home/eric/geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT
  Using GERONIMO_TMPDIR:
/home/eric/geronimo-tomcat-j2ee-1.2-SNAPSHOT/var/temp
  Using JRE_HOME:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_09/jre
  Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/apache/geronimo/deployment/ModuleConfigurer
at
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.ServerConnection.init(ServerConnect
ion.java:207)
at
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.execute(DeployTool.java:15
7)
at
org.apache.geronimo.deployment.cli.DeployTool.main(DeployTool.java:314)


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RE: offline deployment with deploy distribute?

2006-02-15 Thread Vincent Massol


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron
 Mulder
 Sent: lundi 13 février 2006 23:04
 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
 Subject: Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?
 
 Well, I should mention that you can dump the module in the hot deploy
 directory, which may be good enoguh to get you going for now.
 Currently we don't notice if you dumped a *newer* copy of the file in
 there while the server was down, but if it's a new deployment it'll
 get deployed next time the server starts.  The down side is we don't
 validate anything when you copy it in there, only when the server
 starts up and attempts the deployment.

Ok that explains a few things! Thanks for mentioning it.
 
Thanks
-Vincent

 On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Aaron,
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Aaron
   Mulder
   Sent: lundi 13 février 2006 20:15
   To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
   Subject: Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?
  
   The offline option has gone away for 1.0.  There are Maven tasks you
   can use to start the server, deploy some stuff, and then shut the
   server down again -- not sure if that would work for you.
 
  I need a Java API for integrating it in Cargo. Right now one integration
  pain is that it's not possible to relocate the location of the var/
  directory. David Jencks made a proposal on this list last week but I
 don't
  know if it has progressed much since then.
 
   There was
   talk about creating a dedicated offline development tool, but I don't
   think it's been a super-high priority.  Of course, having more use
   cases helps motivate things like that.  :)
 
  I'm pretty sure you'll have users ask for this. It's useful in situation
  where you need to prepare a container configuration and package it as
 part
  of your build for example. I know you guys are working on a packager
 that
  would create a G configuration but unfortunately the current
 implementation
  is using Maven1 and is not easily reusable in Java code. If you had a
 pure
  java implementation independent of Maven that would help a lot.
 
  In any case all containers do support offline deployments so I'm pretty
 sure
  G will have to provide that too in some manner.
 
   I'm not sure if there's a JIRA for this or not -- if you get a chance,
   can you review the JIRAs in the deployment category and see if
   there's one discussing offline deployment and if not add one and
   describe why you need it?
 
  Kevan pointed me to http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1507.
 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
 
   On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
   
Still working on the G integration in Cargo. I need to find a way to
   deploy
an archive before the container is started. I read on
http://tinyurl.com/8dfxj that I should use the distribute command
 with
   the
--offline option.
   
I'm using G 1.0 and it's failing:
   
C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar --offline
   distribute
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
   SNAPSHOT.ear
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
   plan.xml
   
Error: No such command: '--offline'
   
   
Command-line deployer syntax:
deployer [general options] command [command options]
   
[...]
   
If I don't use --offline I get:
   
C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar distribute
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
   SNAPSHOT.ear
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
   plan.xml
Error: Unable to connect to server at deployer:geronimo:jmx --
javax.naming.ServiceUnavailableException [Root exception is
java.rmi.ConnectException: Connection refused to host:
 localhost;
nested exception is:
   
java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect]
   
Any idea? Is the --offline option supported in G 1.0?
   
Thanks
-Vincent
   
   
 
 



Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?

2006-02-14 Thread toby cabot
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:14:51PM -0500, Aaron Mulder wrote:
 I'm not sure if there's a JIRA for this or not -- if you get a chance,
 can you review the JIRAs in the deployment category and see if
 there's one discussing offline deployment and if not add one and
 describe why you need it?

Please see http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1507 for a
start at an offline deploy tool based on David's Maven plugins.
Haven't had much time to look into it recently but if there was at
least one other person interested it would be easier to raise its
priority level higher than Top Gear re-runs :)

Toby


offline deployment with deploy distribute?

2006-02-13 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi,

Still working on the G integration in Cargo. I need to find a way to deploy
an archive before the container is started. I read on
http://tinyurl.com/8dfxj that I should use the distribute command with the
--offline option.

I'm using G 1.0 and it's failing:

C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar --offline distribute
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-SNAPSHOT.ear
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-plan.xml

Error: No such command: '--offline'


Command-line deployer syntax:
deployer [general options] command [command options]

[...]

If I don't use --offline I get:

C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar distribute
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-SNAPSHOT.ear
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-plan.xml
Error: Unable to connect to server at deployer:geronimo:jmx --
javax.naming.ServiceUnavailableException [Root exception is
java.rmi.ConnectException: Connection refused to host: localhost;
nested exception is:

java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect]

Any idea? Is the --offline option supported in G 1.0?

Thanks
-Vincent



Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?

2006-02-13 Thread Aaron Mulder
The offline option has gone away for 1.0.  There are Maven tasks you
can use to start the server, deploy some stuff, and then shut the
server down again -- not sure if that would work for you.  There was
talk about creating a dedicated offline development tool, but I don't
think it's been a super-high priority.  Of course, having more use
cases helps motivate things like that.  :)

I'm not sure if there's a JIRA for this or not -- if you get a chance,
can you review the JIRAs in the deployment category and see if
there's one discussing offline deployment and if not add one and
describe why you need it?

Thanks,
Aaron

http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseProject.jspa?id=10220

On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Still working on the G integration in Cargo. I need to find a way to deploy
 an archive before the container is started. I read on
 http://tinyurl.com/8dfxj that I should use the distribute command with the
 --offline option.

 I'm using G 1.0 and it's failing:

 C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar --offline distribute
 C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-SNAPSHOT.ear
 C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-plan.xml

 Error: No such command: '--offline'


 Command-line deployer syntax:
 deployer [general options] command [command options]

 [...]

 If I don't use --offline I get:

 C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar distribute
 C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-SNAPSHOT.ear
 C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-plan.xml
 Error: Unable to connect to server at deployer:geronimo:jmx --
 javax.naming.ServiceUnavailableException [Root exception is
 java.rmi.ConnectException: Connection refused to host: localhost;
 nested exception is:

 java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect]

 Any idea? Is the --offline option supported in G 1.0?

 Thanks
 -Vincent




Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?

2006-02-13 Thread Prasad Kashyap
Vincent, I don't wish to hijack this thread, but I thought the Cargo
plugin doesn't yet support the containers that ships with Geronimo.
The plugin for Tomcat 5.5.x needs JDK 1.5.

I am interested in the work that you are doing with Cargo  Geronimo.

http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg17578.html

Cheers
Prasad

On 2/13/06, Aaron Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The offline option has gone away for 1.0.  There are Maven tasks you
 can use to start the server, deploy some stuff, and then shut the
 server down again -- not sure if that would work for you.  There was
 talk about creating a dedicated offline development tool, but I don't
 think it's been a super-high priority.  Of course, having more use
 cases helps motivate things like that.  :)

 I'm not sure if there's a JIRA for this or not -- if you get a chance,
 can you review the JIRAs in the deployment category and see if
 there's one discussing offline deployment and if not add one and
 describe why you need it?

 Thanks,
 Aaron

 http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseProject.jspa?id=10220

 On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Still working on the G integration in Cargo. I need to find a way to deploy
  an archive before the container is started. I read on
  http://tinyurl.com/8dfxj that I should use the distribute command with the
  --offline option.
 
  I'm using G 1.0 and it's failing:
 
  C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar --offline distribute
  C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-SNAPSHOT.ear
  C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-plan.xml
 
  Error: No such command: '--offline'
 
 
  Command-line deployer syntax:
  deployer [general options] command [command options]
 
  [...]
 
  If I don't use --offline I get:
 
  C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar distribute
  C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-SNAPSHOT.ear
  C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-plan.xml
  Error: Unable to connect to server at deployer:geronimo:jmx --
  javax.naming.ServiceUnavailableException [Root exception is
  java.rmi.ConnectException: Connection refused to host: localhost;
  nested exception is:
 
  java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect]
 
  Any idea? Is the --offline option supported in G 1.0?
 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
 
 



Cargo and G (was RE: offline deployment with deploy distribute?)

2006-02-13 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Prasad,

 -Original Message-
 From: Prasad Kashyap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: lundi 13 février 2006 20:39
 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?
 
 Vincent, I don't wish to hijack this thread, but I thought the Cargo
 plugin doesn't yet support the containers that ships with Geronimo.
 The plugin for Tomcat 5.5.x needs JDK 1.5.

I'm not sure what you mean by the containers that ships with Geronimo.
AFAIK G supports Jetty 5.x and Tomcat 5.5.x. Cargo 0.7 supports Tomcat 5.5.x
and only Jetty 4.x. However Cargo 0.8 supports Jetty 5.x and 6.x too (thanks
to JanB).

There are several ways to use Cargo:
- through the Java API
- through an extension:
 - Ant tasks
 - maven1 plugin
 - maven2 plugin
 - netbeans and IntelliJ IDEA plugins

If you have found an issue with Tomcat 5.5.x please let us know on the Cargo
lists!

 I am interested in the work that you are doing with Cargo  Geronimo.
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg17578.html

Very cool. I had missed that email.

I'd love to provide all the help require for you to use Cargo. Make sure you
talk to the Cargo team on the mailing lists. You'll find us very open to
helping and collaborating.

Thanks
-Vincent
 
 On 2/13/06, Aaron Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The offline option has gone away for 1.0.  There are Maven tasks you
  can use to start the server, deploy some stuff, and then shut the
  server down again -- not sure if that would work for you.  There was
  talk about creating a dedicated offline development tool, but I don't
  think it's been a super-high priority.  Of course, having more use
  cases helps motivate things like that.  :)
 
  I'm not sure if there's a JIRA for this or not -- if you get a chance,
  can you review the JIRAs in the deployment category and see if
  there's one discussing offline deployment and if not add one and
  describe why you need it?
 
  Thanks,
  Aaron
 
  http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseProject.jspa?id=10220
 
  On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Still working on the G integration in Cargo. I need to find a way to
 deploy
   an archive before the container is started. I read on
   http://tinyurl.com/8dfxj that I should use the distribute command with
 the
   --offline option.
  
   I'm using G 1.0 and it's failing:
  
   C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar --offline
 distribute
   C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
 SNAPSHOT.ear
   C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
 plan.xml
  
   Error: No such command: '--offline'
  
  
   Command-line deployer syntax:
   deployer [general options] command [command options]
  
   [...]
  
   If I don't use --offline I get:
  
   C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar distribute
   C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
 SNAPSHOT.ear
   C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
 plan.xml
   Error: Unable to connect to server at deployer:geronimo:jmx --
   javax.naming.ServiceUnavailableException [Root exception is
   java.rmi.ConnectException: Connection refused to host: localhost;
   nested exception is:
  
   java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect]
  
   Any idea? Is the --offline option supported in G 1.0?
  
   Thanks
   -Vincent
  
  
 



RE: offline deployment with deploy distribute?

2006-02-13 Thread Vincent Massol
Hi Aaron,

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron
 Mulder
 Sent: lundi 13 février 2006 20:15
 To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
 Subject: Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?
 
 The offline option has gone away for 1.0.  There are Maven tasks you
 can use to start the server, deploy some stuff, and then shut the
 server down again -- not sure if that would work for you.  

I need a Java API for integrating it in Cargo. Right now one integration
pain is that it's not possible to relocate the location of the var/
directory. David Jencks made a proposal on this list last week but I don't
know if it has progressed much since then.

 There was
 talk about creating a dedicated offline development tool, but I don't
 think it's been a super-high priority.  Of course, having more use
 cases helps motivate things like that.  :)

I'm pretty sure you'll have users ask for this. It's useful in situation
where you need to prepare a container configuration and package it as part
of your build for example. I know you guys are working on a packager that
would create a G configuration but unfortunately the current implementation
is using Maven1 and is not easily reusable in Java code. If you had a pure
java implementation independent of Maven that would help a lot.

In any case all containers do support offline deployments so I'm pretty sure
G will have to provide that too in some manner. 
 
 I'm not sure if there's a JIRA for this or not -- if you get a chance,
 can you review the JIRAs in the deployment category and see if
 there's one discussing offline deployment and if not add one and
 describe why you need it?

Kevan pointed me to http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1507.

Thanks
-Vincent

 On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Still working on the G integration in Cargo. I need to find a way to
 deploy
  an archive before the container is started. I read on
  http://tinyurl.com/8dfxj that I should use the distribute command with
 the
  --offline option.
 
  I'm using G 1.0 and it's failing:
 
  C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar --offline
 distribute
  C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
 SNAPSHOT.ear
  C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
 plan.xml
 
  Error: No such command: '--offline'
 
 
  Command-line deployer syntax:
  deployer [general options] command [command options]
 
  [...]
 
  If I don't use --offline I get:
 
  C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar distribute
  C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
 SNAPSHOT.ear
  C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
 plan.xml
  Error: Unable to connect to server at deployer:geronimo:jmx --
  javax.naming.ServiceUnavailableException [Root exception is
  java.rmi.ConnectException: Connection refused to host: localhost;
  nested exception is:
 
  java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect]
 
  Any idea? Is the --offline option supported in G 1.0?
 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
 
 



Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?

2006-02-13 Thread Aaron Mulder
Well, I should mention that you can dump the module in the hot deploy
directory, which may be good enoguh to get you going for now. 
Currently we don't notice if you dumped a *newer* copy of the file in
there while the server was down, but if it's a new deployment it'll
get deployed next time the server starts.  The down side is we don't
validate anything when you copy it in there, only when the server
starts up and attempts the deployment.

Aaron

On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Aaron,

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron
  Mulder
  Sent: lundi 13 février 2006 20:15
  To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
  Subject: Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?
 
  The offline option has gone away for 1.0.  There are Maven tasks you
  can use to start the server, deploy some stuff, and then shut the
  server down again -- not sure if that would work for you.

 I need a Java API for integrating it in Cargo. Right now one integration
 pain is that it's not possible to relocate the location of the var/
 directory. David Jencks made a proposal on this list last week but I don't
 know if it has progressed much since then.

  There was
  talk about creating a dedicated offline development tool, but I don't
  think it's been a super-high priority.  Of course, having more use
  cases helps motivate things like that.  :)

 I'm pretty sure you'll have users ask for this. It's useful in situation
 where you need to prepare a container configuration and package it as part
 of your build for example. I know you guys are working on a packager that
 would create a G configuration but unfortunately the current implementation
 is using Maven1 and is not easily reusable in Java code. If you had a pure
 java implementation independent of Maven that would help a lot.

 In any case all containers do support offline deployments so I'm pretty sure
 G will have to provide that too in some manner.

  I'm not sure if there's a JIRA for this or not -- if you get a chance,
  can you review the JIRAs in the deployment category and see if
  there's one discussing offline deployment and if not add one and
  describe why you need it?

 Kevan pointed me to http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1507.

 Thanks
 -Vincent

  On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Still working on the G integration in Cargo. I need to find a way to
  deploy
   an archive before the container is started. I read on
   http://tinyurl.com/8dfxj that I should use the distribute command with
  the
   --offline option.
  
   I'm using G 1.0 and it's failing:
  
   C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar --offline
  distribute
   C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
  SNAPSHOT.ear
   C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
  plan.xml
  
   Error: No such command: '--offline'
  
  
   Command-line deployer syntax:
   deployer [general options] command [command options]
  
   [...]
  
   If I don't use --offline I get:
  
   C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar distribute
   C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
  SNAPSHOT.ear
   C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
  plan.xml
   Error: Unable to connect to server at deployer:geronimo:jmx --
   javax.naming.ServiceUnavailableException [Root exception is
   java.rmi.ConnectException: Connection refused to host: localhost;
   nested exception is:
  
   java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect]
  
   Any idea? Is the --offline option supported in G 1.0?
  
   Thanks
   -Vincent
  
  




Re: Cargo and G (was RE: offline deployment with deploy distribute?)

2006-02-13 Thread Prasad Kashyap
Vincent,

That's excellent. I guess the Container support on the Cargo home site
is not updated yet. That's fine.

So similar to Tomcat 5.5.x container support, does v0.8 impose a
requirement of JDK 1.5 while using goals for Jetty 5.x ?

Cheers
Prasad

On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Prasad,

  -Original Message-
  From: Prasad Kashyap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: lundi 13 février 2006 20:39
  To: dev@geronimo.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?
 
  Vincent, I don't wish to hijack this thread, but I thought the Cargo
  plugin doesn't yet support the containers that ships with Geronimo.
  The plugin for Tomcat 5.5.x needs JDK 1.5.

 I'm not sure what you mean by the containers that ships with Geronimo.
 AFAIK G supports Jetty 5.x and Tomcat 5.5.x. Cargo 0.7 supports Tomcat 5.5.x
 and only Jetty 4.x. However Cargo 0.8 supports Jetty 5.x and 6.x too (thanks
 to JanB).

 There are several ways to use Cargo:
 - through the Java API
 - through an extension:
  - Ant tasks
  - maven1 plugin
  - maven2 plugin
  - netbeans and IntelliJ IDEA plugins

 If you have found an issue with Tomcat 5.5.x please let us know on the Cargo
 lists!

  I am interested in the work that you are doing with Cargo  Geronimo.
 
  http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg17578.html

 Very cool. I had missed that email.

 I'd love to provide all the help require for you to use Cargo. Make sure you
 talk to the Cargo team on the mailing lists. You'll find us very open to
 helping and collaborating.

 Thanks
 -Vincent

  On 2/13/06, Aaron Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The offline option has gone away for 1.0.  There are Maven tasks you
   can use to start the server, deploy some stuff, and then shut the
   server down again -- not sure if that would work for you.  There was
   talk about creating a dedicated offline development tool, but I don't
   think it's been a super-high priority.  Of course, having more use
   cases helps motivate things like that.  :)
  
   I'm not sure if there's a JIRA for this or not -- if you get a chance,
   can you review the JIRAs in the deployment category and see if
   there's one discussing offline deployment and if not add one and
   describe why you need it?
  
   Thanks,
   Aaron
  
   http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseProject.jspa?id=10220
  
   On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
   
Still working on the G integration in Cargo. I need to find a way to
  deploy
an archive before the container is started. I read on
http://tinyurl.com/8dfxj that I should use the distribute command with
  the
--offline option.
   
I'm using G 1.0 and it's failing:
   
C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar --offline
  distribute
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
  SNAPSHOT.ear
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
  plan.xml
   
Error: No such command: '--offline'
   
   
Command-line deployer syntax:
deployer [general options] command [command options]
   
[...]
   
If I don't use --offline I get:
   
C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar distribute
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
  SNAPSHOT.ear
C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
  plan.xml
Error: Unable to connect to server at deployer:geronimo:jmx --
javax.naming.ServiceUnavailableException [Root exception is
java.rmi.ConnectException: Connection refused to host: localhost;
nested exception is:
   
java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect]
   
Any idea? Is the --offline option supported in G 1.0?
   
Thanks
-Vincent
   
   
  




RE: Cargo and G (was RE: offline deployment with deploy distribute?)

2006-02-13 Thread Vincent Massol


 -Original Message-
 From: Prasad Kashyap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: lundi 13 février 2006 23:08
 To: Vincent Massol
 Cc: dev@geronimo.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Cargo and G (was RE: offline deployment with deploy
 distribute?)
 
 Vincent,
 
 That's excellent. I guess the Container support on the Cargo home site
 is not updated yet. That's fine.

Yep we're a bit late. BTW if you want to use the latest cargo snapshots you
can get them from the Cargo m2 repository on: 
http://cargo.codehaus.org/dist2-snapshot/

 So similar to Tomcat 5.5.x container support, does v0.8 impose a
 requirement of JDK 1.5 while using goals for Jetty 5.x ?

AFAIK Jetty 5.x runs with JDK 1.4.

-Vincent

 On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Prasad,
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Prasad Kashyap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: lundi 13 février 2006 20:39
   To: dev@geronimo.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: offline deployment with deploy distribute?
  
   Vincent, I don't wish to hijack this thread, but I thought the Cargo
   plugin doesn't yet support the containers that ships with Geronimo.
   The plugin for Tomcat 5.5.x needs JDK 1.5.
 
  I'm not sure what you mean by the containers that ships with Geronimo.
  AFAIK G supports Jetty 5.x and Tomcat 5.5.x. Cargo 0.7 supports Tomcat
 5.5.x
  and only Jetty 4.x. However Cargo 0.8 supports Jetty 5.x and 6.x too
 (thanks
  to JanB).
 
  There are several ways to use Cargo:
  - through the Java API
  - through an extension:
   - Ant tasks
   - maven1 plugin
   - maven2 plugin
   - netbeans and IntelliJ IDEA plugins
 
  If you have found an issue with Tomcat 5.5.x please let us know on the
 Cargo
  lists!
 
   I am interested in the work that you are doing with Cargo  Geronimo.
  
   http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg17578.html
 
  Very cool. I had missed that email.
 
  I'd love to provide all the help require for you to use Cargo. Make sure
 you
  talk to the Cargo team on the mailing lists. You'll find us very open to
  helping and collaborating.
 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
 
   On 2/13/06, Aaron Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The offline option has gone away for 1.0.  There are Maven tasks you
can use to start the server, deploy some stuff, and then shut the
server down again -- not sure if that would work for you.  There was
talk about creating a dedicated offline development tool, but I
 don't
think it's been a super-high priority.  Of course, having more use
cases helps motivate things like that.  :)
   
I'm not sure if there's a JIRA for this or not -- if you get a
 chance,
can you review the JIRAs in the deployment category and see if
there's one discussing offline deployment and if not add one and
describe why you need it?
   
Thanks,
Aaron
   
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseProject.jspa?id=10220
   
On 2/13/06, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Still working on the G integration in Cargo. I need to find a way
 to
   deploy
 an archive before the container is started. I read on
 http://tinyurl.com/8dfxj that I should use the distribute command
 with
   the
 --offline option.

 I'm using G 1.0 and it's failing:

 C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar --offline
   distribute
 C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
   SNAPSHOT.ear

 C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
   plan.xml

 Error: No such command: '--offline'


 Command-line deployer syntax:
 deployer [general options] command [command options]

 [...]

 If I don't use --offline I get:

 C:\apps\geronimo-1.0-tomcat\binjava -jar deployer.jar distribute
 C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\target\daytrader-ear-1.0-
   SNAPSHOT.ear

 C:\dev\m2book\code\j2ee\daytrader\ear\src\main\deployment\dayTrader-
   plan.xml
 Error: Unable to connect to server at deployer:geronimo:jmx --
 javax.naming.ServiceUnavailableException [Root exception is
 java.rmi.ConnectException: Connection refused to host:
 localhost;
 nested exception is:

 java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect]

 Any idea? Is the --offline option supported in G 1.0?

 Thanks
 -Vincent


   
 
 



Re: offline deployment - status

2006-01-19 Thread toby cabot
I've made some progress on this and it seems to work OK for basic j2ee
deployments, except for the problem below.  It's not pretty but it
does what I need for the time being.  If anyone else is interested in
this I could clean it up and post it to the list, and if anyone's got
a tip about the problem below I'd be mucho grateful.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:01:08PM -0500, toby cabot wrote:
 It's all good until the code reaches the SwitchingModuleBuilder, which
 is configured by default to deploy to Tomcat, so since I'm using Jetty
 it fails to find a builder and I get foo.war is not a war messages.
 It looks as if SwitchingModuleBuilder's defaultNamespace is overridden
 in assemblies/j2ee-jetty-server's config.xml, but I'm not clear on how
 to override this parameter when I'm in a command-line environment.
 I'm not even clear on how this gets overridden when the plugin is run
 in a configs/*-jetty directory.  Pointers appreciated.

Thanks,
Toby


Re: offline deployment - status

2006-01-19 Thread David Jencks


On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:46 PM, toby cabot wrote:


I've made some progress on this and it seems to work OK for basic j2ee
deployments, except for the problem below.  It's not pretty but it
does what I need for the time being.  If anyone else is interested in
this I could clean it up and post it to the list, and if anyone's got
a tip about the problem below I'd be mucho grateful.


I'd really appreciate it if you would open a jira and keep your  
progress posted as patches to it.


On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:01:08PM -0500, toby cabot wrote:
It's all good until the code reaches the SwitchingModuleBuilder,  
which
is configured by default to deploy to Tomcat, so since I'm using  
Jetty

it fails to find a builder and I get foo.war is not a war messages.
It looks as if SwitchingModuleBuilder's defaultNamespace is  
overridden
in assemblies/j2ee-jetty-server's config.xml, but I'm not clear on  
how

to override this parameter when I'm in a command-line environment.
I'm not even clear on how this gets overridden when the plugin is run
in a configs/*-jetty directory.  Pointers appreciated.


I'm not sure I have the whole context here, but basically you should  
use the web container specific plan namespaces to point out which  
container you want to target.  This is what we do in the configs, so  
there is a daytrader-jetty,  a daytrader-tomcat, etc etc etc.  If  
this doesn't answer your question right away please explain further :-)


thanks
david jencks



Thanks,
Toby




Re: offline deployment?

2006-01-10 Thread toby cabot
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 10:12:00AM -0800, David Jencks wrote:
 Unless someone twists my arm severely I was planning on looking at  
 this again after 2 other items, jetspeed integration and a  
 transaction manager patch: if you wanted to get started on this first  
 I'd be very happy :-).

I've started messing around with this and hit a snag.  I've made a new
jar called offline.jar that's pretty much a clone of the existing
deployer.jar 'cept it runs a different main class, which itself is
pretty much a clone of the existing deployer main class.

It's all good until the code reaches the SwitchingModuleBuilder, which
is configured by default to deploy to Tomcat, so since I'm using Jetty
it fails to find a builder and I get foo.war is not a war messages.
It looks as if SwitchingModuleBuilder's defaultNamespace is overridden
in assemblies/j2ee-jetty-server's config.xml, but I'm not clear on how
to override this parameter when I'm in a command-line environment.
I'm not even clear on how this gets overridden when the plugin is run
in a configs/*-jetty directory.  Pointers appreciated.

Thanks,
Toby


Re: offline deployment?

2006-01-04 Thread toby cabot
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 03:58:55PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
 Will the hot deployment directory satisfy you needs?

I tried to think of an approach using hot deployment that would work,
but none are as clean as offline deployment.  But I'm probably a
corner case: I use Geronimo embedded in a system with lots of other
software around it, running in a sealed box rather than a typical
PC-like environment.  I cross-develop; with offline deployment I can
distribute my application into Geronimo during the build process, then
move it to a target machine and run it on a read-only partition.  Of
course I have to move various logs, etc to /var but that's easily done
by tweaks to various plan.xml files.  I've also done some experiments
recently to allow Geronimo to have multiple config-stores so I can
have my core software in read-only storage and deploy other stuff to
/var.

Using hot deployment would be much more complex as I'd have to modify
the hot deployer to read from /var and deploy to a read-write config
store.  It also leaves a lot of processing to the target machines that
currently happens on development machines.  It's do-able but I like
that with offline distribute my code is in a read-only config store so
it can't be messed with.

I've got a workaround with online distribution but it's a clumsier
build process since I have to fire up the server, wait some arbitrary
time for the deployer to become available, distribute, and shut down
the server.  I can probably live with that but offline distribution is
much cleaner.

I recognize that my requirements aren't typical so I'm happy to (as
with multiple config stores) do some work to help make it happen.  I
just don't want to go off half-cocked and end up with something that's
a crime against the Geronimo architecture.  What do you think of the
approach that I mentioned in my previous email?  Am I barking up the
right tree?

Thanks,
Toby


Re: offline deployment?

2006-01-04 Thread David Jencks


On Jan 3, 2006, at 7:34 AM, toby cabot wrote:


Hi Folks,

I guess it's possible that I'm the only person that used offline
deployment, at least I don't see a lot of people clamoring to bring it
back.  It's very useful for me, though, so I'd like to find out if
there's a possibility of bringing it back onto HEAD (and hopefully the
1.0 branch, too).  I'll probably need to hack something for my needs
but I'd just as soon do it in a way that's Geronimo-savvy.


It's definitely something we need in some form.


From discussion on this list it looks as if the preferred approach is
to try to use the same approach that the build-time maven plugins do.
From my naive reading of the code, it looks as if that happens in two
passes: first the geronimo-packaging-plugin takes a deployable
resource (ear, war, etc) and generates a configuration archive from
that, then the geronimo-assembly-plugin moves the car into the
ConfigurationStore.  The configurations are mentioned in config.xml
(hand-coded?) which causes them to get started when Geronimo runs.  I
see notes in the code that the packaging plugin uses the Maven
repository, so in order to work on machines without Maven I imagine
that we'd need to use the Geronimo repository instead.

Is this more-or-less on the right track?  I'd appreciate any tips or
pointers, especially if I'm about to head off in the wrong direction.


That's about right.  I tried to make both the packaging and assembly  
plugins modular so that the class that does the work accepts  
arbitrary repository and config-store implementations so that all  
that is needed for the offline config-builder or assembler is to  
construct something using the geronimo repo and config store rather  
than the maven ones.  My idea was to control these plugins primarily  
with a properties file, but allowing overrides using command line  
properties.  I recall writing a primitive version of the command line  
packager but never tested it and I'm not sure if I committed it  
before my hard drive broke.


Something similar should work for the assembler.  One question I have  
about this is, where do the dependencies come from?  The maven  
assembly plugin makes sure all the dependencies for the config are  
copied from the maven repo into the geronimo repo.  I guess a command  
line version of this should fail if the dependencies aren't already  
in the repo?  Or should it accept some other repo anyway?  Or use a  
remote maven repo?  I don't know.


One missing piece that perhaps can be added to the assembly plugin as  
well is modification of config.xml.  I suppose a good start would be  
to have a flag that indicates whether the config should be loaded or  
not, and, similarly to the online deployer, either add an element to  
config.xml or set load=true if the flag says to load the config.


Unless someone twists my arm severely I was planning on looking at  
this again after 2 other items, jetspeed integration and a  
transaction manager patch: if you wanted to get started on this first  
I'd be very happy :-).  Command line tools are not something I know  
how to make useable so I'm sure anything I came up with would need  
editing by others anyway.


many thanks,
david jencks



Thanks,
Toby




offline deployment?

2006-01-03 Thread toby cabot
Hi Folks,

I guess it's possible that I'm the only person that used offline
deployment, at least I don't see a lot of people clamoring to bring it
back.  It's very useful for me, though, so I'd like to find out if
there's a possibility of bringing it back onto HEAD (and hopefully the
1.0 branch, too).  I'll probably need to hack something for my needs
but I'd just as soon do it in a way that's Geronimo-savvy.

From discussion on this list it looks as if the preferred approach is
to try to use the same approach that the build-time maven plugins do.
From my naive reading of the code, it looks as if that happens in two
passes: first the geronimo-packaging-plugin takes a deployable
resource (ear, war, etc) and generates a configuration archive from
that, then the geronimo-assembly-plugin moves the car into the
ConfigurationStore.  The configurations are mentioned in config.xml
(hand-coded?) which causes them to get started when Geronimo runs.  I
see notes in the code that the packaging plugin uses the Maven
repository, so in order to work on machines without Maven I imagine
that we'd need to use the Geronimo repository instead.

Is this more-or-less on the right track?  I'd appreciate any tips or
pointers, especially if I'm about to head off in the wrong direction.

Thanks,
Toby


Re: offline deployment?

2006-01-03 Thread Dain Sundstrom

Will the hot deployment directory satisfy you needs?

-dain

On Jan 3, 2006, at 7:34 AM, toby cabot wrote:


Hi Folks,

I guess it's possible that I'm the only person that used offline
deployment, at least I don't see a lot of people clamoring to bring it
back.  It's very useful for me, though, so I'd like to find out if
there's a possibility of bringing it back onto HEAD (and hopefully the
1.0 branch, too).  I'll probably need to hack something for my needs
but I'd just as soon do it in a way that's Geronimo-savvy.


From discussion on this list it looks as if the preferred approach is

to try to use the same approach that the build-time maven plugins do.

From my naive reading of the code, it looks as if that happens in two

passes: first the geronimo-packaging-plugin takes a deployable
resource (ear, war, etc) and generates a configuration archive from
that, then the geronimo-assembly-plugin moves the car into the
ConfigurationStore.  The configurations are mentioned in config.xml
(hand-coded?) which causes them to get started when Geronimo runs.  I
see notes in the code that the packaging plugin uses the Maven
repository, so in order to work on machines without Maven I imagine
that we'd need to use the Geronimo repository instead.

Is this more-or-less on the right track?  I'd appreciate any tips or
pointers, especially if I'm about to head off in the wrong direction.

Thanks,
Toby




[jira] Closed: (GERONIMO-1294) Remove offline deployment capabilities from deployer.jar

2005-12-07 Thread David Jencks (JIRA)
 [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1294?page=all ]
 
David Jencks closed GERONIMO-1294:
--

Resolution: Fixed

Fixed in this possibly unnumbered revision
Deleting   modules/assembly
Sendingmodules/deploy-tool/project.xml
Deleting   
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/Bootstrap.java
Deleting   
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/ShutdownBootstrap.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/CommandDeploy.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/CommandDistribute.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/CommandListModules.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/CommandListTargets.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/CommandLogin.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/CommandPackage.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/CommandRedeploy.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/CommandStart.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/DeployTool.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/ServerConnection.java
Sending
modules/deploy-tool/src/java/org/apache/geronimo/deployment/cli/StopServer.java
Deleting   modules/installer
Transmitting file data svn: Commit succeeded, but other errors 
follow:
svn: Error bumping revisions post-commit (details follow):
update makes it look like
Updated to revision 354830.

 Remove offline deployment capabilities from deployer.jar
 

  Key: GERONIMO-1294
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1294
  Project: Geronimo
 Type: Improvement
   Components: deployment
 Versions: 1.0-M5
 Reporter: Aaron Mulder
 Assignee: David Jencks
  Fix For: 1.0
  Attachments: offline-deploy.patch

 David asked for a patch that removes offline deployment from the deployer.jar 
 tool.  So, here it is.  I haven't tested this since it breaks the assembly 
 module, but hey, it looks right and compiles.  :)

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[jira] Created: (GERONIMO-1294) Remove offline deployment capabilities from deployer.jar

2005-12-05 Thread Aaron Mulder (JIRA)
Remove offline deployment capabilities from deployer.jar


 Key: GERONIMO-1294
 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1294
 Project: Geronimo
Type: Improvement
  Components: deployment  
Versions: 1.0-M5
Reporter: Aaron Mulder
 Assigned to: David Jencks 
 Fix For: 1.0
 Attachments: offline-deploy.patch

David asked for a patch that removes offline deployment from the deployer.jar 
tool.  So, here it is.  I haven't tested this since it breaks the assembly 
module, but hey, it looks right and compiles.  :)

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[jira] Updated: (GERONIMO-1294) Remove offline deployment capabilities from deployer.jar

2005-12-05 Thread Aaron Mulder (JIRA)
 [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1294?page=all ]

Aaron Mulder updated GERONIMO-1294:
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Attachment: offline-deploy.patch

 Remove offline deployment capabilities from deployer.jar
 

  Key: GERONIMO-1294
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1294
  Project: Geronimo
 Type: Improvement
   Components: deployment
 Versions: 1.0-M5
 Reporter: Aaron Mulder
 Assignee: David Jencks
  Fix For: 1.0
  Attachments: offline-deploy.patch

 David asked for a patch that removes offline deployment from the deployer.jar 
 tool.  So, here it is.  I haven't tested this since it breaks the assembly 
 module, but hey, it looks right and compiles.  :)

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Re: online and offline deployment

2004-11-09 Thread Aaron Mulder
Jeremy,
What is your feeling on the package --install command?  Because
right now, that runs in offline mode, and assumes that it should install
into a file-based local configuration store.  Which means it's subject to
all the problems you've raised if the server is not using a file-based
local configuration store, etc.

Of course we use this during server construction.  But it might be
best to start the server immediately after bootstrapping the deployer, and
do all the rest of the server construction tasks as online deployments.  
(That would also have the pleasant side effect of making it all run
faster, because you wouldn't be starting and stopping a kernel for every
deployment.)  Then the bootstrapping would be the only operation that
actually installed in offline mode, and we could remove the unsafe
--install option from the package command -- or actually make the
package command perform the installation in online mode, if we have a
deployment module that knows how to deploy a CAR file.  Or better yet,
have the package command run in reverse order -- first distribute the
configuration into the running server, and then dump a CAR file from the
configuration in the config store.

I think someone raised some of these possibilities before, but I
don't remember who.

Aaron

On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
 I argue that JSR-88 features such as start, stop, ... that are intended 
 for online use do not work in offline mode and trying to implement them 
 is resulting in an incomplete solution that will be problematic in all 
 but the degenerate case. The plan to hack start based on a specific 
 implementation of ConfigurationStore is indicative that there is 
 something fundamentally wrong here.
 
 Aaron tried to implement the feature as planned, ran into a problem, and 
 asked on the list if anyone minded if he hacked around it. I did, for 
 reasons that have been explained.
 
 Can you take another look at the mails again and see if you can come up 
 with a proposal that works? I would hate to waste another day writing a 
 another mail that you do not understand.
 
 And despite the on-list conversations that make it pretty clear I think 
 there are technical problems, to keep you happy here is a formal -1 veto 
 on any implementation intended for general use that couples the 
 standalone deployer to the implementation of the target server's config 
 store or which requires the deployer to boot the target server to do 
 offline deployment. I have already +1'd Aaron's existing changes.
 
 --
 Jeremy
 


Re: online and offline deployment

2004-11-09 Thread David Jencks
On Nov 9, 2004, at 9:27 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
Aaron Mulder wrote:
Jeremy,
	What is your feeling on the package --install command?  Because
right now, that runs in offline mode, and assumes that it should 
install
into a file-based local configuration store.  Which means it's 
subject to
all the problems you've raised if the server is not using a file-based
local configuration store, etc.
The original purpose of that (in the old offline deployer) was to 
install the generated configuration in the /deployer's/ config store 
to that it could be used to resolved dependencies for future 
deployments. It was the happy co-incidence (ok, a bootstrap hack) that 
the deployer and server were using the same store that allowed us to 
pre-load configurations into it.


	Of course we use this during server construction.  But it might be
best to start the server immediately after bootstrapping the 
deployer, and
do all the rest of the server construction tasks as online 
deployments.  (That would also have the pleasant side effect of 
making it all run
faster, because you wouldn't be starting and stopping a kernel for 
every
deployment.)
I'm all for making it faster but I have reservations about starting 
the server during the build process as that will trigger a lot of 
initialization code (like creating a transaction log, a Derby 
database, etc.) We could nuke it after building the configs but that 
seems funky.

One thing that was talked about a while ago (off-list probably :-) ) 
was the concept of having a deployment server that could be used to 
perform deployments. It would basically be the deployment config 
running as a Daemon which a deployer could talk to; the server would 
do the deployment and return the configuration it built to the 
deployer. As the configurations were portable they could then be moved 
around to the servers where they were intended to run.

If we changed the bootstrap code to build such a deployment server, 
then it could used during the build process and we would not have to 
create new JVMs all the time.

It should be possible to boot such a server inside the Maven VM and 
talk to it directly. In fact, with a couple of minor tweaks that might 
even be possible with the current standalone deployment config.
I don't think this will work until all the deployment code is in 
different modules from the runtime code.  That's why I've been trying 
so hard to get it separated.

david jencks

Then the bootstrapping would be the only operation that
actually installed in offline mode, and we could remove the unsafe
--install option from the package command -- or actually make the
package command perform the installation in online mode, if we have a
deployment module that knows how to deploy a CAR file.  Or better 
yet,
have the package command run in reverse order -- first distribute the
configuration into the running server, and then dump a CAR file from 
the
configuration in the config store.
Aside from building the initial deployer (the hard coded Bootstrap 
class) I don't think we should do anything special to build the 
default server configuration. We should be able to do it the same way 
any other user would configure their own server.

The challenge facing us and any other user is the same - pre-loading a 
server's configuration store. The command line executable CAR can be 
built by the standalone deployer as can all of its configurations. The 
problem is how to get them into the new server's store(s).

As I've said before, we currently hack this by making the deployer and 
server use the same store but we really need to find a general 
solution.

I have a half-baked idea about a special type of bootstrap deployment 
where the deployer would interact with a fledging server to set up its 
stores and repositories and then install the appropriate jars and 
configurations. This would be driven by bootstrap plan (probably in 
XML) that told it what to do. I need to think a bit more and I'll send 
in a proposal to the list when its a little more done.

Hey, perhaps we could discuss this off-list at ApacheCon ;-)
--
Jeremy



Re: online and offline deployment

2004-11-07 Thread Aaron Mulder
Just to reiterate, I think Jeremy is saying that using the 
deployer tool for offline install is limited because it doesn't know what 
GBeans the server is using for the ConfigStore and PersistentConfigList 
and so on.  If we instead actually start the server to do an offline 
deployment/installation, then all the corrct GBeans will be running and 
that is no longer an issue.

An alternative would be for the deployer to inspect the server's 
configuration when it starts, and load every dependency from the 
immediate parent of the module to be deployed up through the root, and 
that should identify the correct ConfigStore and PersistentConfigList.
But this is tricky too, since how would it know what ConfigStore to load 
the configurations out of (including the configuration for the 
ConfigStore, aargh!).  In the end, I suspect this depends on how 
server.jar was packaged, and if you plan to start your server with 
start-my-server.jar instead of server.jar then I don't know how the 
deployer would know that, so I don't know where it would get the original 
ConfigStore reference from -- perhaps we'd need to give it an option to 
identify your server startup JAR.  But I think this would still fail if 
the server was running (since you'd probably clash for ports trying to 
load some of the services between ConfigStore and application), so it's an 
offline deploy in name only.

Another option is that we can provide a tool that works 100% for
the default server configuration (LocalConfigStore+FileConfigurationList).  
But it would not work in the face of customizations to the 2 core
components: if you swap out your LocalConfigStore, then the tool would not
work (it would install into the wrong place), and if you swap out your
PersistentConfigurationList then the tool would be unable to mark any
module to be started.  If we wanted to, we could make offline deploy tools 
available for different combinations of those GBeans, or give you a 
procedure to build a new deploy tool from an old one.

The main reason I feel that this is important is that most other
products support it.  Generally if you copy a new EAR over an old one
while the server is not running, and then start the server, the new
version of the EAR will deploy on startup.  (Tomcat 5 in the one I can
think of that doesn't do this).  I just hate to tell people that things 
that used to work won't work any more if they move to Geronimo.  On the 
other hand, I think this behavior was mostly implemented via a hot deploy 
directory, so if we provide a GBean for a hot deploy directory, then maybe 
we don't need a offline deploy tool at all (beyond for building the 
server).

And I guess the last issue is related.  In the long run, it will
be nice/necessary to have some kind of packaged-configuration-handling
features, in the deploy tool or another tool:
 - extract a CAR file from an entry in a server's ConfigStore
 - sign a CAR file (either in the server's ConfigStore or as a file)
 - transfer a packaged configuration directly from one server to another
 - deploy a CAR file into a server

Aaron

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
 As promised Thursday, here are the details of my concerns about mixing
 offline and online deployment.
 
 My concerns on this issue stem from how we package GBeans together for
 use by the kernel. Rather than handling them one-by-one, Geronimo uses
 the notion of a pre-canned Configuration which contains a number of
 GBean instances and the classpath information needed to load them.
 Configurations can be loaded by the kernel and when started bring all
 the GBeans they contain online together.
 
 A key feature of Configurations is they are portable between different
 Geronimo installations - specifically a Configuration can run in any
 Geronimo kernel that can resolve its dependencies. This is less critical
 for the single-server mode we have now but is very important as Geronimo
 scales to clustered or grid configurations - it allows us to efficiently
 move applications between the servers on demand.
 
 This also has benefits where change management is important, such as
 business critical installations. For example, a Configuration can be
 built and signed in a test or integration environment and moved
 *provably unchanged* though the test, stage and release to production
 process. Alternatively, an OEM can release an application to channel as
 a signed Configuration, end-users can have the assurance it has not been
 tampered with, and the OEM can reduce costs by reducing problems caused
 by variations in the end-user environment.
 
 In the kernel, the process of loading and unloading Configuration is
 handled by a ConfigurationManager that uses ConfigurationStores to store
 them. The store exposes a simple API for installing and uninstalling
 Configurations and for retrieving them so they can be loaded. We have a
 simple LocalConfigStore implementation that uses the local filesystem

Re: online and offline deployment

2004-11-07 Thread Bruce Snyder
Aaron Mulder wrote:
	Just to reiterate, I think Jeremy is saying that using the 
deployer tool for offline install is limited because it doesn't know what 
GBeans the server is using for the ConfigStore and PersistentConfigList 
and so on.  If we instead actually start the server to do an offline 
deployment/installation, then all the corrct GBeans will be running and 
that is no longer an issue.

	An alternative would be for the deployer to inspect the server's 
configuration when it starts, and load every dependency from the 
immediate parent of the module to be deployed up through the root, and 
that should identify the correct ConfigStore and PersistentConfigList.
But this is tricky too, since how would it know what ConfigStore to load 
the configurations out of (including the configuration for the 
ConfigStore, aargh!).  In the end, I suspect this depends on how 
server.jar was packaged, and if you plan to start your server with 
start-my-server.jar instead of server.jar then I don't know how the 
deployer would know that, so I don't know where it would get the original 
ConfigStore reference from -- perhaps we'd need to give it an option to 
identify your server startup JAR.  But I think this would still fail if 
the server was running (since you'd probably clash for ports trying to 
load some of the services between ConfigStore and application), so it's an 
offline deploy in name only.

	Another option is that we can provide a tool that works 100% for
the default server configuration (LocalConfigStore+FileConfigurationList).  
But it would not work in the face of customizations to the 2 core
components: if you swap out your LocalConfigStore, then the tool would not
work (it would install into the wrong place), and if you swap out your
PersistentConfigurationList then the tool would be unable to mark any
module to be started.  If we wanted to, we could make offline deploy tools 
available for different combinations of those GBeans, or give you a 
procedure to build a new deploy tool from an old one.

	The main reason I feel that this is important is that most other
products support it.  Generally if you copy a new EAR over an old one
while the server is not running, and then start the server, the new
version of the EAR will deploy on startup.  (Tomcat 5 in the one I can
think of that doesn't do this).  I just hate to tell people that things 
that used to work won't work any more if they move to Geronimo.  On the 
other hand, I think this behavior was mostly implemented via a hot deploy 
directory, so if we provide a GBean for a hot deploy directory, then maybe 
we don't need a offline deploy tool at all (beyond for building the 
server).

And I guess the last issue is related.  In the long run, it will
be nice/necessary to have some kind of packaged-configuration-handling
features, in the deploy tool or another tool:
 - extract a CAR file from an entry in a server's ConfigStore
 - sign a CAR file (either in the server's ConfigStore or as a file)
 - transfer a packaged configuration directly from one server to another
 - deploy a CAR file into a server
Aaron
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
As promised Thursday, here are the details of my concerns about mixing
offline and online deployment.
My concerns on this issue stem from how we package GBeans together for
use by the kernel. Rather than handling them one-by-one, Geronimo uses
the notion of a pre-canned Configuration which contains a number of
GBean instances and the classpath information needed to load them.
Configurations can be loaded by the kernel and when started bring all
the GBeans they contain online together.
A key feature of Configurations is they are portable between different
Geronimo installations - specifically a Configuration can run in any
Geronimo kernel that can resolve its dependencies. This is less critical
for the single-server mode we have now but is very important as Geronimo
scales to clustered or grid configurations - it allows us to efficiently
move applications between the servers on demand.
This also has benefits where change management is important, such as
business critical installations. For example, a Configuration can be
built and signed in a test or integration environment and moved
*provably unchanged* though the test, stage and release to production
process. Alternatively, an OEM can release an application to channel as
a signed Configuration, end-users can have the assurance it has not been
tampered with, and the OEM can reduce costs by reducing problems caused
by variations in the end-user environment.
In the kernel, the process of loading and unloading Configuration is
handled by a ConfigurationManager that uses ConfigurationStores to store
them. The store exposes a simple API for installing and uninstalling
Configurations and for retrieving them so they can be loaded. We have a
simple LocalConfigStore implementation that uses the local filesystem to
store them; other implementations

Re: online and offline deployment

2004-11-07 Thread Aaron Mulder
Bruce,
Can you state your current opinion and reasoning?  I think that's
more valuable than a vote, at this stage.  I know I'd like to have a
broader discussion to try to agree on the best solution, or at least the
best specific options to propose for a vote.  For example, I think we've
kind of gone past the point where 1 tool or 2 tools is a useful vote
-- if two, it's a question of which two and what our goals should be for
each.  If one, again, what do we attempt to support in that one?

Thanks,
Aaron

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Bruce Snyder wrote:
 I spent part of last night and part of this morning re-reading all of 
 this info to better understand the dilemma over the deploy tool. After 
 reading these two messages a couple times I feel like I understand the 
 issues at hand far better than when I cast my vote.
 
 I'm sure that others will find themselves with the same quandary I 
 currently have, whereby upon further education of the issues surrounding 
 the deployment tool, I wish I could recast my vote. If others do, in 
 fact, have the same sentiment, then I propose that the deploy tool vote 
 be recalled and we start a fresh vote on the same topic, or, I just 
 change my vote. Does anyone else feel this way?
 
 Bruce
 -- 
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 The Castor Project
 http://www.castor.org/
 
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 http://geronimo.apache.org/
 


Re: online and offline deployment

2004-11-07 Thread Bruce Snyder
Aaron Mulder wrote:
Can you state your current opinion and reasoning?  I think that's
more valuable than a vote, at this stage.  I know I'd like to have a
broader discussion to try to agree on the best solution, or at least the
best specific options to propose for a vote.  For example, I think we've
kind of gone past the point where 1 tool or 2 tools is a useful vote
-- if two, it's a question of which two and what our goals should be for
each.  If one, again, what do we attempt to support in that one?
I thought that the dilemma for the vote was regarding the simplication 
of the deployment tool for code sake rather than for the user sake (i.e. 
one tool was difficult to code whereas two tools was difficult for the 
user). I see now that there is a need for two tools, each of which 
serves a very specific purpose. I now think that much of the dilemma 
surrounds the term 'deploy'.

I cast my vote in favor of a single tool simply from a user's point of 
view, all the while thinking that the strategy pattern would easily sort 
out the coding dilemma.

Bruce
--
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unpack(u30,0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]5R\\F9EG)E=\\$\\!FFEI+F-O;0\\`\\`);'

The Castor Project
http://www.castor.org/
Apache Geronimo
http://geronimo.apache.org/


Re: online and offline deployment

2004-11-07 Thread David Jencks
Thank you Jeremy,  this is a very clear explanation of the  
architecture.  I agree completely with your point of view.  I think we  
should get some version of this explanation on the wiki.

I apologize for not entering this discussion earlier, but I didn't have  
time to think through the issues thoroughly.  I have thought all along  
that offline deployment was a bad idea and should not be used outside  
very restricted bootstrap scenarios.  I would prefer our assembly to  
proceed by starting a server as soon as possible and using the maven  
plugin to distribute the modules to that running server.

I don't think drop, wait  wonder hot deployment should be supported.  
 This only supports deployment of applications with embedded plans or  
applications that need no plan.  I think there are almost no useful  
applications that will work without a plan to at least resolve  
resource-refs.  I would prefer we put more effort into tools that help  
identify the minimum amount of information needed for a plan and  
generate the plan, and then  deploy to a running server.

To me, making sure the online deployment/undeployment cycle is really  
reliable even in the face of multiple deployment errors and long chains  
of parent configurations that are not previously started is a much  
better idea than supporting any offline deployment.

thanks
david jencks
On Nov 6, 2004, at 9:51 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
As promised Thursday, here are the details of my concerns about mixing
offline and online deployment.
My concerns on this issue stem from how we package GBeans together for
use by the kernel. Rather than handling them one-by-one, Geronimo uses
the notion of a pre-canned Configuration which contains a number of
GBean instances and the classpath information needed to load them.
Configurations can be loaded by the kernel and when started bring all
the GBeans they contain online together.
A key feature of Configurations is they are portable between different
Geronimo installations - specifically a Configuration can run in any
Geronimo kernel that can resolve its dependencies. This is less  
critical
for the single-server mode we have now but is very important as  
Geronimo
scales to clustered or grid configurations - it allows us to  
efficiently
move applications between the servers on demand.

This also has benefits where change management is important, such as
business critical installations. For example, a Configuration can be
built and signed in a test or integration environment and moved
*provably unchanged* though the test, stage and release to production
process. Alternatively, an OEM can release an application to channel as
a signed Configuration, end-users can have the assurance it has not  
been
tampered with, and the OEM can reduce costs by reducing problems caused
by variations in the end-user environment.

In the kernel, the process of loading and unloading Configuration is
handled by a ConfigurationManager that uses ConfigurationStores to  
store
them. The store exposes a simple API for installing and uninstalling
Configurations and for retrieving them so they can be loaded. We have a
simple LocalConfigStore implementation that uses the local filesystem  
to
store them; other implementations are possible using different
persistence approaches such as databases, LDAP or proprietary
configuration management systems.

The deployment system in Geronimo is the interface between user-domain
artifacts such as J2EE modules (EARs, WARs, etc.) or deployment plans
and the configuration management system described above. It essentially
combines modules with plans and generates Configurations.
It comprises three parts:
* External interfaces such as the command line tool, console or JSR-88
  provider that get the modules and plans from the user
* ConfigurationBuilders such as EARConfigBuilder and
  ServiceConfigBuilder that do the combination and produce the target
  Configuration
* Back-end interfaces that store the Configuration either in a
  ConfigurationStore or as an output file
The ConfigurationBuilders are GBeans and run inside a Geronimo kernel.
Apart from ease of implementation, they also have access to the
resources provided by that system - for example, they can use the
Repository to load classes during processing, and they can use the
ConfigurationManager to load other Configurations that the target may  
be
dependent on.

To support online deployment, we run a deployment system inside the  
same
kernel as the J2EE server - it is actually part of the
org/apache/geronimo/Server Configuration although work is progress to
allow it to be run as a separate dependent configuation.

The JSR-88 provider interacts with this deployment system to fulfill  
the
spec requirements for distribute, start, stop, undeploy etc. For
example, during a distribute operation the module and plan are passed  
to
the deployment system, it uses an EARConfigBuilder to produce the  
output
Configuration, which it then installs

Re: online and offline deployment

2004-11-07 Thread Aaron Mulder
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, David Jencks wrote:
 I don't think drop, wait  wonder hot deployment should be supported.  
   This only supports deployment of applications with embedded plans or  
 applications that need no plan. 

I don't understand the objections to this.  embedded plans is 
the way every J2EE application I've ever seen has worked, save the days 
when WebSphere made you save your plan to DB2 instead of XML files.  Every 
tool in the space today puts your plans in the archive.

Granted, the current J2EE leadership seems to think that no
application archive should contain server-specific information, but that
is not a standard, that is a paradigm shift.  Don't you think it will take
a long time before the average J2EE developer stops trying to pack their
server-specific deployment descriptor (or deployment plan) into their
archives?  Refusing to support the by-far-most-common method of J2EE
packaging and deployment is IMHO only going to turn people off to the
product, even if you argue that it's more correct.

This is still a different issue than offline deployment, though, 
since a directory scanner would only work while the server was online.  As 
well, I'd be fine if the directory scanner declined to deploy anything 
without a Geronimo plan, or just produced errors along the lines of 
unable to resolve reference to foo, please include a Geronimo deployment 
plan (geronimo-jetty.xml)...

Aaron


Re: online and offline deployment

2004-11-07 Thread Aaron Mulder
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
 ...
 If someone implements this (dealing, of course, with all the nasties) 
 then all the better; in fact, IIRC there is some old scanning code of 
 mine lying around in the repo somewhere.
 
 However, due to the technical issues I would still not advocate scanning 
 as being the recommended way of deploying an application into Geronimo.

Right.  This I agree with 100%.  I am fine with recommending 
external plans and online deployment tools.  I just believe we should be 
willing to support the old style too.

I believe David took a somewhat firmer position than you:

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, David Jencks wrote:
 I don't think drop, wait  wonder hot deployment should be supported.

That's what I was objecting to.  Supported, yes; recommended, no.

Aaron


Re: How to updated config.list during offline deployment

2004-11-04 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Aaron Mulder wrote:
	I'd like to be able to add entries to config.list when the server 
is not running and I'm doing a deployment.  The problem is, the 
configuration list GBean isn't running -- it's not in the minimal set 
started by the deployer.  And even if it was, it would install a shutdown 
hook that basically saved an empty file when the deployer finished.

	Anyone mind if I just have a little logic in the deployer to 
update this file directly?
Yes, I mind. The config.list file is specific to the actual 
implementation of the PersistentConfigurationList GBean and the deployer 
should not assume that as other implementations may exist.

The other thing is that the --install option does just that - install 
but not start (it is meant to be similar to JSR-88 distribute).

I believe this can be better solved by adding an option to server.jar 
that adds a new configId to the list to be run, something like:

java -jar bin/server.jar --add my/new/config
--
Jeremy


Re: How to updated config.list during offline deployment

2004-11-04 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Nov 4, 2004, at 11:18 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
Aaron Mulder wrote:
	I'd like to be able to add entries to config.list when the server is 
not running and I'm doing a deployment.  The problem is, the 
configuration list GBean isn't running -- it's not in the minimal set 
started by the deployer.  And even if it was, it would install a 
shutdown hook that basically saved an empty file when the deployer 
finished.
	Anyone mind if I just have a little logic in the deployer to update 
this file directly?
Yes, I mind. The config.list file is specific to the actual 
implementation of the PersistentConfigurationList GBean and the 
deployer should not assume that as other implementations may exist.

The other thing is that the --install option does just that - install 
but not start (it is meant to be similar to JSR-88 distribute).

I believe this can be better solved by adding an option to server.jar 
that adds a new configId to the list to be run, something like:

java -jar bin/server.jar --add my/new/config
So I would have to do this:
java -jar bin/server.jar --install file.ear
java -jar bin/server.jar --add my/new/config
I think that the vast majority of the time I would just want this:
java -jar bin/server.jar --deploy file.ear
which would do both of the above commands in one go
-dain


Re: How to updated config.list during offline deployment

2004-11-04 Thread Aaron Mulder
I'm working on the new deployer not the old one.  As per the
proposed deployer syntax message, this one actually offers a JSR-88
start method while the server is not running, which equates to updating
the config list to include the module.  I'd rather not start the server to 
do that...  Also, the bulk of the feedback on the thread before that was 
that having two tools to handle deployment tasks was bad.

Aaron

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
 The other thing is that the --install option does just that - install 
 but not start (it is meant to be similar to JSR-88 distribute).
 
 I believe this can be better solved by adding an option to server.jar 
 that adds a new configId to the list to be run, something like:
 
 java -jar bin/server.jar --add my/new/config
 
 --
 Jeremy
 


Re: How to updated config.list during offline deployment

2004-11-04 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Aaron Mulder wrote:
	I'm working on the new deployer not the old one.  As per the
proposed deployer syntax message, this one actually offers a JSR-88
start method while the server is not running, which equates to updating
the config list to include the module.  I'd rather not start the server to 
do that...  Also, the bulk of the feedback on the thread before that was 
that having two tools to handle deployment tasks was bad.

Pardon me for being dumb but how can you start a module if the server is 
down?

I think we may be trying to hard to kludge 88-style operations into a 
mode that 88 was not intended to support.

--
Jeremy


Re: How to updated config.list during offline deployment

2004-11-04 Thread Aaron Mulder
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
 Pardon me for being dumb but how can you start a module if the server is 
 down?
 
 I think we may be trying to hard to kludge 88-style operations into a 
 mode that 88 was not intended to support.

If you deploy to a server that's not running, then the module 
will be started next time the server starts.  If you distribute to a 
server that's not running, then the module will not be started next time 
the server starts.

The alternative is to have two tools for online/offline mode (you 
missed the boat if you intend to fight for that), or one tool where only 
half the options work any any given time (ick).

Aaron


Re: How to updated config.list during offline deployment

2004-11-04 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Aaron Mulder wrote:
	If you deploy to a server that's not running, then the module 
will be started next time the server starts.  If you distribute to a 
server that's not running, then the module will not be started next time 
the server starts.

You mean, you hope that it starts - you would have to look at the server 
to see if it actually did. So this has the same copy-and-pray utility 
as dumping the module in a directory.

I think either you would be checking as you watched the server start 
(the --add option) or you would test by pinging the server once it had 
started. The latter option here is exactly as hard as just calling start

My issue is the ambiguity in the outcome of what you propose.
--
Jeremy


Re: How to updated config.list during offline deployment

2004-11-04 Thread Aaron Mulder
What I am proposing is the equivalent of using the current deploy 
tool, and then adding the module's configId to the server command line 
next time you start it -- which is what you can do today.  I don't see how 
that makes the situation worse.

You seem to be sugesting that the deploy tool should only work
fully when the server is running, and if the server is not running, then
you need to use a different command to start the server and deploy at the
same time.  Is that right?

Aaron

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
 You mean, you hope that it starts - you would have to look at the server 
 to see if it actually did. So this has the same copy-and-pray utility 
 as dumping the module in a directory.
 
 I think either you would be checking as you watched the server start 
 (the --add option) or you would test by pinging the server once it had 
 started. The latter option here is exactly as hard as just calling start
 
 My issue is the ambiguity in the outcome of what you propose.


Re: How to updated config.list during offline deployment

2004-11-04 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Aaron Mulder wrote:
	What I am proposing is the equivalent of using the current deploy 
tool, and then adding the module's configId to the server command line 
next time you start it -- which is what you can do today.  I don't see how 
that makes the situation worse.

No, you were proposing having the deployment tool hack the internal file 
used by a specific GBean. I object to that as it relies on 
implementation detail.

You seem to be sugesting that the deploy tool should only work
fully when the server is running, and if the server is not running, then
you need to use a different command to start the server and deploy at the
same time.  Is that right?
No, I was proposing adding the command line option to the server that 
added a configId to the list retrieved from the last-known-configs 
GBean. This is a portable way of achieving what you were trying to do 
above. It is also simply start and not deploy

You can install(distribute) offline to your heart's content but I don't 
want the user fooled into thinking their app is startable when it isn't. 
The deploy tool (as in distribute/start) can *only* work with a 
running server as that is the only way to tell if the application is 
startable.

I think the typical usage will be:
start server
repeat
   write code
   build (with distribute/start to online server)
   test
until app works or it's time to go home
rather than
repeat
  write code
  build (with 'deploy' to offline server)
  start server
  check logs for errors
  test
  stop server
until app works or it's time to go home
We should make the first simple and reliable.
--
Jeremy


Re: How to updated config.list during offline deployment

2004-11-04 Thread Aaron Mulder
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
 No, you were proposing having the deployment tool hack the internal file 
 used by a specific GBean. I object to that as it relies on 
 implementation detail.

Hmm.  Obviously we're not on the same page here.

So you would be totally comfortable with this if we use the GBean 
to access the file, rather than writing to it directly?

  You seem to be sugesting that the deploy tool should only work fully
  when the server is running, and if the server is not running, then you
  need to use a different command to start the server and deploy at the
  same time.  Is that right?

 No, I was proposing adding the command line option to the server that 
 added a configId to the list retrieved from the last-known-configs 
 GBean. This is a portable way of achieving what you were trying to do 
 above. It is also simply start and not deploy

Is this your position:

 - the deploy tool should not support start when the server is not 
running (but it's fine to support it when the server is running)

 - the server should offer a command line argument that gets you the 
start functionality

If so, I would claim this uses two tools (deployer.jar, 
server.jar) and also makes the deployer behave differently depending on 
whether the server is running (start works, start doesn't work).

Also, how is the server.jar option you're proposing different than 
the existing option to just pass a configId on the command line?  What 
does the new option do that the old one doesn't?

Thanks,
Aaron