Re: ApacheCon EU Survey
On 10/11/2012 jan iversen wrote: has anyone thought about making events that did not cost 600,- EUR + travel/hotel etc. ?? Yes, free (or with a nominal fee, like 10 EUR) events used to be the norm. maybe it is time, we made a OpenOffice (I do not write AOO on purpose) gathering, where developers can talk to developers without the overhead of a big conference company !! I used to do participate in such events, which were highly successful, so I can only recommend it (and would be pleased to help establish such a non-commercial event). Good idea. Maybe something related to 4.0 next Spring... It will require that someone organizes it and that it has appeal for most developers to attend, but for the rest there's nothing against organizing one: on the contrary, it would be very good to setup some informal gathering again. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: 5 days is about up and we have no -1so I've started a page for creating of the proposed RFP on the confluence wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Brand+Contest+RFP Question: Is it worth (maybe before or as part of the Aim section) saying a few brief words about what the current branding is, its history and why we are rebranding now? Yes, that will be part of the preamble to the RFP. I'll be getting to that this weekend, I'm on a contract at the moment and as is usual they are trying to squeeze 52 weeks into twelve! :) Cheers G Discussion on the marketing list? I'm travelling for the next two days, connection may be intemittent Cheers GL
Re: Apache OO program crashes
On 13/11/2012 Painius wrote: then I should notify all of you to see if someone else has the problem and possibly a solution. His tip did not keep AOO from crashing, so here goes... Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 manage the user profile differently than previous versions. The old user profile is automatically converted so that users can keep their extensions and settings. In a minority of cases, especially with highly customized profiles (many extensions or customizations) the conversion doesn't succeed. Common symptoms are: frequent application crashes, problems with dictionaries or thesaurus, OpenOffice starting and crashing after a few seconds. To solve this, just reset/rename your user profile as explained in the official OpenOffice forum. http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 Regards, Andrea.
Hello from Acrolinx
Hi everyone, since my colleagues and I started writing a plug-in for OpenOffice Writer I wanted to let you guys know what we're trying to achieve with it. My company's main product is a client-server-based tool that assists authors in editing technical documentation. With a plug-in in their authoring tool, they can send the document they're currently working on to the server for linguistic analysis. Next to spell and grammar checking, this analysis involves checking of certain style rules (like Don't use Future tense, Don't use passive voice) and that the right terminology is used. Terminology is useful if you want to ensure that e.g. parts of a device are always called the same in a manual or that the right product name is used. The results of the analysis are then highlighted in the document itself so you don't have to jump between tools. The author can then click on each highlight and gets a context menu that offers more information about the issue and offers a suggestion how to correct it. After some great hints and some research we decided to use a smart tag-based approach to get the highlights for our flags into the document. For dummy texts, this works pretty well. Writing a plug-in for OpenOffice is pretty exciting for us since we have so far only dealt with proprietary editors with black box APIs. Sometimes we're lucky and grab a hold of a developer within the company that develops that editor and we get some information (usually just a confirmation that this is indeed a bug). With OpenOffice, this is a completely different story (finally!). If there's anything else you're interested in please drop me a line. Really looking forward to working with you guys! Best, Robert -- Robert Barbey Principal Software Engineer Integrations UI robert.bar...@acrolinx.com Acrolinx GmbH Friedrichstraße 100 | 10117 Berlin | Germany http://www.acrolinx.com/
Re: Apache OpenOffice crew
Am 14.11.2012 03:39, schrieb imacat: On 2012/11/14 07:14, Andrew Rist said: trying again on this thread - here is the group shot taken on the last day of ApacheConEU http://people.apache.org/~arist/apachecon/ApacheConEUAOOGroupShot.JPG : Don't be sad: http://people.apache.org/~cjopp/apachecon/group.jpg Sorry Andrew.
Compiling Symphony
Hi, I am currently trying to get an overview of the implementation and API that could be reused for the new task pane/sidebar feature. For this I am looking also at the symphony branch in our repository. But just looking at the source code is not so easy, because the Writer already has a feature that is internally called sidebar (probably for displaying notes/annotations/comments). Therefore I would like to compile Symphony and use the debugger to find the relevant code parts. But our symphony branch does not compile out of the box, at least not for me. Has anybody ever successfully build Symphony from our repository? I have managed to get to VCL, mostly by deactivating features. But I guess that I can not disable VCL :-) Regards, Andre
Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013
Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: A draft of the Call for Papers/Talks (text only) is available at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+CFP ... It would be good to jazz this up a little. Is there a FOSDEM logo that we are permitted to use? Does anyone have a good photo (or two) from ApacheCon that we could use? Sorry I wasn't clear. That page hosts the text only version: it will be copied and pasted into an e-mail, see other announcements at https://fosdem.org/2013/ So only the text should be improved there. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+CFP is just for writing/reviewing this text. Link won't be published. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+Proposals is the nicer version where we can add formatting, practical information and the actual talk submissions too. This is the link we will publish, so images can be added here, good suggestion. But we first need the other page ready (i.e., the final version of the CFP text). Regards, Andrea.
New entry for the Consultants Directory
Hi, I'd like to have the following entry on the consultants page. Here's the xml: consultant nameAdfinis SyGroup AG/name countryCH/country practiceDevelopment/practice practiceCustomization/practice practiceSupport/practice practiceOther/practice description Adfinis SyGroup AG has been active in the open source environment for more than a decade. We provide services such as development, maintenance and operation based on open source technologies, including OpenOffice (tm). With offices in Basel and Bern, Adfinis SyGroup AG supports customers throughout Switzerland and neighbouring countries. /description websitehttps://adfinis-sygroup.ch/openoffice_support_and_development/website emaildavid.v...@adfinis-sygroup.ch/email phone+41 31 550 31 11/phone /consultant If possible (I don't see any other entry doing it), it would be nice to have the german landing page in there as well: https://adfinis-sygroup.ch/openoffice_support_entwicklung Thanks, Dave -- Adfinis SyGroup AG David Vogt, Stv. Bereichsleiter Software-Entwicklung Keltenstrasse 98 | CH-3018 Bern Tel. +41 (0) 31 550 31 11 | Direct +41 (0)31 550 31 12 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [early codereview / check for standards] genLang in l10ntools
Hi soon is real soon, I have already had a mail conversation with juergen, and I understand that Dwayne first of all has a new release, and secondly is interested in some of the ideas I had. Jan. On 14 November 2012 13:38, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 06/11/2012 jan iversen wrote: However the issue is still open, and I think andrea/juergen will have a talk with you on that subject, and a couple of pootle server details during this week. This indeed happened. I believe Juergen and Dwayne will soon (for a reasonable definition of soon!) be in contact with you for further discussions. Regards, Andrea.
Re: ApacheCon EU Survey
On 14 November 2012 09:00, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 10/11/2012 jan iversen wrote: has anyone thought about making events that did not cost 600,- EUR + travel/hotel etc. ?? Yes, free (or with a nominal fee, like 10 EUR) events used to be the norm. maybe it is time, we made a OpenOffice (I do not write AOO on purpose) gathering, where developers can talk to developers without the overhead of a big conference company !! I used to do participate in such events, which were highly successful, so I can only recommend it (and would be pleased to help establish such a non-commercial event). Good idea. Maybe something related to 4.0 next Spring... It will require that someone organizes it and that it has appeal for most developers to attend, but for the rest there's nothing against organizing one: on the contrary, it would be very good to setup some informal gathering again. 4.0 release would be a good time. Lets postpone the discussion until after FOSDEM, I will just throw in a marker, that there are plenty of hotels down here, that offer next to free conference facilities when a group of people book rooms, and in spring the rooms/flights are pretty cheap, since it is off season. Jan. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Compiling Symphony
2012/11/14 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com Hi, I am currently trying to get an overview of the implementation and API that could be reused for the new task pane/sidebar feature. It will be an interesting work! For this I am looking also at the symphony branch in our repository. But just looking at the source code is not so easy, because the Writer already has a feature that is internally called sidebar (probably for displaying notes/annotations/comments). Therefore I would like to compile Symphony and use the debugger to find the relevant code parts. Yes, debugging the source code is a quick way to study code. But our symphony branch does not compile out of the box, at least not for me. Has anybody ever successfully build Symphony from our repository? Of cause, I did full build for Symphony's source code on Windows/Linux/Mac. There is a build guide for it on openoffice wiki [1]. I hope you can make a full build on your local dev env. [1]http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_build_Symphony%27s_source_code I have managed to get to VCL, mostly by deactivating features. But I guess that I can not disable VCL :-) Regards, Andre -- Best regards, Chao Huang
Re: Planned entry for Apache OOO Blog
Hi List, On 13.11.2012 14:50, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi List, I have prepared a blog entry (currently draft) since I saw that LO had currently integrated some stuff from our codebase, e.g. the SVG import feature I added to AOO3.4. I wanted to share this with you before publishing. Please have a look here: http://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=good_news_libreoffice_is_integrating Comments welcome! Got some comments directly, thanks for all sending some. Published the blog now. Sincerely, Armin -- ALG
Re: Apache OO program crashes
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 13/11/2012 Painius wrote: then I should notify all of you to see if someone else has the problem and possibly a solution. His tip did not keep AOO from crashing, so here goes... Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 manage the user profile differently than previous versions. The old user profile is automatically converted so that users can keep their extensions and settings. In a minority of cases, especially with highly customized profiles (many extensions or customizations) the conversion doesn't succeed. Common symptoms are: frequent application crashes, problems with dictionaries or thesaurus, OpenOffice starting and crashing after a few seconds. To solve this, just reset/rename your user profile as explained in the official OpenOffice forum. http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 So if this is our #1 issue, is there anything we can do to improve it? Deleting the profile is really a power-user remedy. It requires more OS knowledge than the typical user has, especially on Windows where folders like this are hidden by default. Has anyone tried to figure out exactly what is happening? Is there anyway we can finally fix this in AOO 4.0? We might not be able to migrate every extension, but at least make it so that if something cannot be converted we write out some diagnostic info in a text file. And if something doesn't convert, we skip it entirely? IMHO, it is better to require a reinstall of an extension than to create an unstable profile. -Rob Regards, Andrea.
Re: Compiling Symphony
On 14.11.2012 14:37, Chao Huang wrote: 2012/11/14 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com Hi, I am currently trying to get an overview of the implementation and API that could be reused for the new task pane/sidebar feature. It will be an interesting work! For this I am looking also at the symphony branch in our repository. But just looking at the source code is not so easy, because the Writer already has a feature that is internally called sidebar (probably for displaying notes/annotations/comments). Therefore I would like to compile Symphony and use the debugger to find the relevant code parts. Yes, debugging the source code is a quick way to study code. But our symphony branch does not compile out of the box, at least not for me. Has anybody ever successfully build Symphony from our repository? Of cause, I did full build for Symphony's source code on Windows/Linux/Mac. There is a build guide for it on openoffice wiki [1]. I hope you can make a full build on your local dev env. [1]http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_build_Symphony%27s_source_code Tried that but with no luck so far. There are still several build breakers: - The configure.in from the symphony branch does not know two of the options mentioned on the Wiki page: --with-use-shell=bash --enable-bundled-dictionaries - configure.in adds the line ADDITIONAL_REPOSITORIES=../ext_libraries to winenv.set.sh but ext_libraries/ does not exist in the symphony branch. - The external libraries icu and hunspell can not be loaded by bootstrap - Some .cxx files in VCL do not include the precompiled headers and thus break the build. - You have to pass the --disable-coinmp switch to configure. Otherwise the build breaks because the coinmp module can not be found (because it does not exist in the symphony branch) I was able to fix all of the above. At the moment I try to figure a linker problem in VCL. Best regards, Andre I have managed to get to VCL, mostly by deactivating features. But I guess that I can not disable VCL :-) Regards, Andre
RE: Compiling Symphony
Can there please be some priority given to the IP cleanup of the Symphony section of the SVN so it is safe for others to begin working on it? It is in an untouchable state in its present form, especially if folks want to merge changes and fixes in preparation for integration of bits from it. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Andre Fischer [mailto:awf@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 07:19 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Compiling Symphony On 14.11.2012 14:37, Chao Huang wrote: 2012/11/14 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com Hi, I am currently trying to get an overview of the implementation and API that could be reused for the new task pane/sidebar feature. It will be an interesting work! For this I am looking also at the symphony branch in our repository. But just looking at the source code is not so easy, because the Writer already has a feature that is internally called sidebar (probably for displaying notes/annotations/comments). Therefore I would like to compile Symphony and use the debugger to find the relevant code parts. Yes, debugging the source code is a quick way to study code. But our symphony branch does not compile out of the box, at least not for me. Has anybody ever successfully build Symphony from our repository? Of cause, I did full build for Symphony's source code on Windows/Linux/Mac. There is a build guide for it on openoffice wiki [1]. I hope you can make a full build on your local dev env. [1]http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_build_Symphony%27s_source_code Tried that but with no luck so far. There are still several build breakers: - The configure.in from the symphony branch does not know two of the options mentioned on the Wiki page: --with-use-shell=bash --enable-bundled-dictionaries - configure.in adds the line ADDITIONAL_REPOSITORIES=../ext_libraries to winenv.set.sh but ext_libraries/ does not exist in the symphony branch. - The external libraries icu and hunspell can not be loaded by bootstrap - Some .cxx files in VCL do not include the precompiled headers and thus break the build. - You have to pass the --disable-coinmp switch to configure. Otherwise the build breaks because the coinmp module can not be found (because it does not exist in the symphony branch) I was able to fix all of the above. At the moment I try to figure a linker problem in VCL. Best regards, Andre I have managed to get to VCL, mostly by deactivating features. But I guess that I can not disable VCL :-) Regards, Andre
Re: Apache OO program crashes
Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues So if this is our #1 issue, is there anything we can do to improve it? Deleting the profile is really a power-user remedy. There is surely someone on this list who can hack together a few lines of Visual Basic (or whatever; even a .BAT file would work) and build a profile renaming tool we can point people to. Has anyone tried to figure out exactly what is happening? Is there anyway we can finally fix this in AOO 4.0? It's hard to reproduce since it depends on customizations. But I believe it will be fixed automatically in 4.0 since new major releases should start with a clean profile (they use a different folder name anyway, and I don't believe users will be upset if we don't migrate their 3.x customizations to 4.0). Regards, Andrea.
Re: Apache OO program crashes
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:18:11 +0100 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues So if this is our #1 issue, is there anything we can do to improve it? Deleting the profile is really a power-user remedy. There is surely someone on this list who can hack together a few lines of Visual Basic (or whatever; even a .BAT file would work) and build a profile renaming tool we can point people to. Has anyone tried to figure out exactly what is happening? Is there anyway we can finally fix this in AOO 4.0? It's hard to reproduce since it depends on customizations. But I believe it will be fixed automatically in 4.0 since new major releases should start with a clean profile (they use a different folder name anyway, and I don't believe users will be upset if we don't migrate their 3.x customizations to 4.0). Regards, Andrea. I think professional writers and power users of OpenOffice will certainly wish that their customisations are preserved so that they may be transferred to AOO 4.0, even if this is not done automatically. A separate transfer utility would be a good idea. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Symphony IP Cleanup (was RE: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation)
I know there's a lot of plates spinning as cutover from graduation occurs. It seems to me this is not an insignificant problem: 1. People who see the IP-encumbered code on the AOO SVN are not privy to the SGA. All they have to go by are the notices that they see there. 2. There are limitations on who is empowered to do anything about that. 3. To make the cleanup incremental and conditional on some future events seems completely inconsistent with the SGA, which has no strings attached. In order for volunteers to choose to work on this code, even to repair difficulties building it and to exercise interesting components for potential integration in AOO, is problematic since using the current code and committing changes to it leads to IP provenance issues. The community should not be confronted by such a sustained ambiguity. Rob, can you help? I am certain that great effort and good will was extended in making the Symphony contribution. It will be a shame that the delivery remains incomplete in this way. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 11:01 To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I don't think deleting the files of the Symphony contribution is a constructive step. You overstate things. There is no IPR issue here. The IPR is set by the SGA. The question is about updating headers, which neither adds nor subtracts any rights anyone has with respect to these files. It is documentation work that should be done, yes. But let's not make it something it is not. Cleaning up the IPR will work for everyone. And indeed it will be done, per the process, before this code is included in a release. When can the ASF expect the letter from IBM that you have offered to request? When I know I'll post that info. -Rob [ ... ]
Re: Apache OO program crashes
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 13/11/2012 Painius wrote: then I should notify all of you to see if someone else has the problem and possibly a solution. His tip did not keep AOO from crashing, so here goes... Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 manage the user profile differently than previous versions. The old user profile is automatically converted so that users can keep their extensions and settings. In a minority of cases, especially with highly customized profiles (many extensions or customizations) the conversion doesn't succeed. Common symptoms are: frequent application crashes, problems with dictionaries or thesaurus, OpenOffice starting and crashing after a few seconds. To solve this, just reset/rename your user profile as explained in the official OpenOffice forum. http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 So if this is our #1 issue, is there anything we can do to improve it? Deleting the profile is really a power-user remedy. It requires more OS knowledge than the typical user has, especially on Windows where folders like this are hidden by default. Has anyone tried to figure out exactly what is happening? Is there anyway we can finally fix this in AOO 4.0? We might not be able to migrate every extension, but at least make it so that if something cannot be converted we write out some diagnostic info in a text file. And if something doesn't convert, we skip it entirely? IMHO, it is better to require a reinstall of an extension than to create an unstable profile. -Rob This has NOT been an issue with Linux (in my experience), even though Hagar's response on the forums gives instructions for how to deal with it: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 Do we know what OSes are most affected? Regards, Andrea. -- MzK “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself?” -- Anais Nin
Best practices for contributing code to both Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice
I've heard some discussion and interest in this topic off-list. There has been some practical experience, but nothing that we've written down or promoted. I'd be interested in seeing if we can come up with some solid best practices. The problem: Many (most?) open source contributors are not opposed to AOO or LO. They are just interested in helping out. If they produce a patch, or documentation, fix a bug or add a translation, they want to maximize the public good that comes from that work. License differences are confusing and frustrating and bring them no joy. They want a set of clear instructions for how they can do the most good with the least process overhead. Naturally, I'm looking at this from the AOO side. But most of these issues are symmetrical. So for sake of argument, suppose I identify myself primarily as a LibreOffice developer/translator/technical author, and I want to make my work available more broadly. What should I do? As I see it, the issues are threefold: communications, technical integration and license. On the communications side, how do I let AOO know that I've done work that I want to contribute to them? Sending a note to dev@ or posting a patch in AOO's BZ would work, of course. But both require extra work for the contributor. Are there any lighter weight ways of doing this? For example, could we suggest a tag that could be used in git or Bugzilla, for the contributor to indicate their intent that the contribution be made available to AOO as well? Something like #AOOCONTRIBUTION ? That would make it easy for us to search for such items. Technical integration -- Due to divergence between the projects, not every LO patch can be applied to AOO automatically. Some will, but many will require adaptation. Certainly the contributor could integrate and build their patch for both products. That would be idea. But it is asking a lot. Would we accept less? Or maybe we sugest areas where technical integration would be easier and require no extra work? Otherwise, integration would require extra work on our end. But this is not fatal. In fact it could lead to a set of easy tasks for new developers. License -- the differences here are well-known, but are easily solved. A contributor merely needs to state that they are making their patch available to AOO under ALv2. There are various ways to record this fact publicly. One is to make the statement in the source system (git or BZ). But that is extra work. Another way might be submit an iCLA to Apache. Another way might be to publicly record an intention on our dev@ list, along the lines of, All of my (future/past) LibreOffice contributions should be considered also contributions under the Apache License 2.0 to the Apache OpenOffice project. Another other ideas? -Rob
Re: Apache OO program crashes
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 13/11/2012 Painius wrote: then I should notify all of you to see if someone else has the problem and possibly a solution. His tip did not keep AOO from crashing, so here goes... Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 manage the user profile differently than previous versions. The old user profile is automatically converted so that users can keep their extensions and settings. In a minority of cases, especially with highly customized profiles (many extensions or customizations) the conversion doesn't succeed. Common symptoms are: frequent application crashes, problems with dictionaries or thesaurus, OpenOffice starting and crashing after a few seconds. To solve this, just reset/rename your user profile as explained in the official OpenOffice forum. http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 So if this is our #1 issue, is there anything we can do to improve it? Deleting the profile is really a power-user remedy. It requires more OS knowledge than the typical user has, especially on Windows where folders like this are hidden by default. Has anyone tried to figure out exactly what is happening? Is there anyway we can finally fix this in AOO 4.0? We might not be able to migrate every extension, but at least make it so that if something cannot be converted we write out some diagnostic info in a text file. And if something doesn't convert, we skip it entirely? IMHO, it is better to require a reinstall of an extension than to create an unstable profile. -Rob This has NOT been an issue with Linux (in my experience), even though Hagar's response on the forums gives instructions for how to deal with it: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 Do we know what OSes are most affected? I have never seen the issue either, on Windows or Linux. But I may be just missing the combination needed. What is frustrating is that we don't know the cause. Is it a problem with a single popular extension? A problem with a single setting, or many settings? All settings of a specific data type? A robustness issue dealing with bad data? A new bug? An old bug? Studies have shown that most people don't report problems. If something doesn't work they'll just stop using it. But they'll tell their friends. So for every person who has reported this issue, we should consider that there are many more how are just suffering in silence, or have already given up. On the other hand, if this just goes away in AOO 4.0 then a well-publicized , easy to use profile clean-up tool might be the only thing we can do for current users. -Rob Regards, Andrea. -- MzK “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself?” -- Anais Nin
Re: Best practices for contributing code to both Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice
+1 in general to your ideas, it would be VERY nice to have an easy way, and the more we all do to make it easy the more developers will work for both projects. I do however have one question. Regarding the mark #AOOCONTRIBUTION. It an AOO committer take the code and integrate it, would that not be a clear violation of the ICLA paragraph 7. As I read it, taking code requires a lot of extra red tape, compared to if someone actively sends the code and asks a committer to integrate it ? I might be wrong, but from past experience with apache, taking source that has not clearly been sent with the purpose of integration, can lead to problems. Remember it is not easy to proof who actually set the flag, whereas a mail sent is a clear indication. Jan I On 14 November 2012 19:28, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I've heard some discussion and interest in this topic off-list. There has been some practical experience, but nothing that we've written down or promoted. I'd be interested in seeing if we can come up with some solid best practices. The problem: Many (most?) open source contributors are not opposed to AOO or LO. They are just interested in helping out. If they produce a patch, or documentation, fix a bug or add a translation, they want to maximize the public good that comes from that work. License differences are confusing and frustrating and bring them no joy. They want a set of clear instructions for how they can do the most good with the least process overhead. Naturally, I'm looking at this from the AOO side. But most of these issues are symmetrical. So for sake of argument, suppose I identify myself primarily as a LibreOffice developer/translator/technical author, and I want to make my work available more broadly. What should I do? As I see it, the issues are threefold: communications, technical integration and license. On the communications side, how do I let AOO know that I've done work that I want to contribute to them? Sending a note to dev@ or posting a patch in AOO's BZ would work, of course. But both require extra work for the contributor. Are there any lighter weight ways of doing this? For example, could we suggest a tag that could be used in git or Bugzilla, for the contributor to indicate their intent that the contribution be made available to AOO as well? Something like #AOOCONTRIBUTION ? That would make it easy for us to search for such items. Technical integration -- Due to divergence between the projects, not every LO patch can be applied to AOO automatically. Some will, but many will require adaptation. Certainly the contributor could integrate and build their patch for both products. That would be idea. But it is asking a lot. Would we accept less? Or maybe we sugest areas where technical integration would be easier and require no extra work? Otherwise, integration would require extra work on our end. But this is not fatal. In fact it could lead to a set of easy tasks for new developers. License -- the differences here are well-known, but are easily solved. A contributor merely needs to state that they are making their patch available to AOO under ALv2. There are various ways to record this fact publicly. One is to make the statement in the source system (git or BZ). But that is extra work. Another way might be submit an iCLA to Apache. Another way might be to publicly record an intention on our dev@ list, along the lines of, All of my (future/past) LibreOffice contributions should be considered also contributions under the Apache License 2.0 to the Apache OpenOffice project. Another other ideas? -Rob
Re: Apache OO program crashes
There is some evidence, or suspicion, on the en forum that the automatic check for updates is involved with the problem. See this posting and others in the same thread. http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15t=55912start=30#p253337 Francis On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 13/11/2012 Painius wrote: then I should notify all of you to see if someone else has the problem and possibly a solution. His tip did not keep AOO from crashing, so here goes... Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 manage the user profile differently than previous versions. The old user profile is automatically converted so that users can keep their extensions and settings. In a minority of cases, especially with highly customized profiles (many extensions or customizations) the conversion doesn't succeed. Common symptoms are: frequent application crashes, problems with dictionaries or thesaurus, OpenOffice starting and crashing after a few seconds. To solve this, just reset/rename your user profile as explained in the official OpenOffice forum. http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 So if this is our #1 issue, is there anything we can do to improve it? Deleting the profile is really a power-user remedy. It requires more OS knowledge than the typical user has, especially on Windows where folders like this are hidden by default. Has anyone tried to figure out exactly what is happening? Is there anyway we can finally fix this in AOO 4.0? We might not be able to migrate every extension, but at least make it so that if something cannot be converted we write out some diagnostic info in a text file. And if something doesn't convert, we skip it entirely? IMHO, it is better to require a reinstall of an extension than to create an unstable profile. -Rob This has NOT been an issue with Linux (in my experience), even though Hagar's response on the forums gives instructions for how to deal with it: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 Do we know what OSes are most affected? I have never seen the issue either, on Windows or Linux. But I may be just missing the combination needed. What is frustrating is that we don't know the cause. Is it a problem with a single popular extension? A problem with a single setting, or many settings? All settings of a specific data type? A robustness issue dealing with bad data? A new bug? An old bug? Studies have shown that most people don't report problems. If something doesn't work they'll just stop using it. But they'll tell their friends. So for every person who has reported this issue, we should consider that there are many more how are just suffering in silence, or have already given up. On the other hand, if this just goes away in AOO 4.0 then a well-publicized , easy to use profile clean-up tool might be the only thing we can do for current users. -Rob Regards, Andrea. -- MzK “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself?” -- Anais Nin
Re: [User Docs] What do we as a community want for user documentation or AOO
2012/11/13 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:05 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: I agree as a general concept, but I think the possible uses of AOO are so broad that it is quite difficult to identify definite tasks. For example, writing a letter seems a quite different task from writing a book, but once you learn how to use styles both tasks imply exactly the same actions from the user: the only real change is in the numbers (more styles used, more pages, more objects) but the what do you need to do is almost the same. So if we write a task explaining how to write a letter, maybe a new user that needs to write a thesis will skip that chapter, thinking it will not help him/her because it's too basic while a task explaining how to write a thesis will scare someone who just need to write a letter. Well, I think we need the user to meet us half-way. I wouldn't have a task on writing a letter. As you say, this is very broad. But having a comprehensive chapter on lists in all its gory detail might be too broad as well. It is purely conceptual and is the long way to a user with an immediate question . In the middle might be: -- How to number a list starting at something other than 1 -- How to continue a list -- How to control bullet styles for nested lists. So my view of a task is much smaller. A chapter with a collection of quick cheat sheets could be a good idea, indeed: to do 'this', follow 'these steps' and for more info see 'here'. Regards Ricardo In any case, this is not an either/or. It is good to have the reference and conceptual material as well. But easy-to-follow tasks (or think of them as cookbook recipes) can help as well.
Look at the pretty branches
I see that our project is growing new branches. Would it make sense to start documenting these on a wiki page, so it is clear what each one is, and who is maintaining it? Current branches are: AOO34/ --- Our 3.4.x branch, would be used if we ever need a 3.4.2 alg/ -- This is Armin's long-term graphics rendering improvement work, maybe integrated for AOO 4.1 gbuild/ -- This looks new, from Andrew. Sounds build-related. But what is it? And what is the plan for getting it integrated? Is this planned AOO 4.0? writer001/ -- Ditto. What is it and what is the plan for getting it integrated? Thanks! -Rob
Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion
2012/11/15 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org This is mainly a community-relations / public outreach idea. I noticed that when we do a blog post we get a lot of unrelated questions, some of them quite good. So I'm thinking -- there must be a lot of good questions out there. They could range from How do I... to 'Why did you... to What if you did..., etc. So the proposal is to use Google Moderator, like we did before for the AOO 4.0 ideas, and use it to gather and rate questions. We call it Ask OpenOffice. After some period of time (a month?) we take the top-rated 10 (or top 5?) questions and respond to them in a blog post. This could become a regular thing that we repeat every 6 months or so, Ask OpenOffice 2, Ask OpenOffice 3, etc. Downside? We could get some awkward questions. But if such a question gets into the top 10, then we should give it a serious response, right? This is a challenge and an opportunity. What do you think? I like it! It's a very good idea, indeed. Regards Ricardo -Rob
Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: This is mainly a community-relations / public outreach idea. I noticed that when we do a blog post we get a lot of unrelated questions, some of them quite good. So I'm thinking -- there must be a lot of good questions out there. They could range from How do I... to 'Why did you... to What if you did..., etc. So the proposal is to use Google Moderator, like we did before for the AOO 4.0 ideas, and use it to gather and rate questions. We call it Ask OpenOffice. After some period of time (a month?) we take the top-rated 10 (or top 5?) questions and respond to them in a blog post. This could become a regular thing that we repeat every 6 months or so, Ask OpenOffice 2, Ask OpenOffice 3, etc. Downside? We could get some awkward questions. But if such a question gets into the top 10, then we should give it a serious response, right? This is a challenge and an opportunity. What do you think? -Rob I like this. I've thought *for a while* to cull through the Forums (still no time dedicated to it), and come up with some FAQ for the product. What you're suggesting is another alternative to this. Of course this approach would include questions about new features too. We really SHOULD do something like this. We have no formal FAQ near as I can determine. (I think we had this discussion vis a vis when is the user likely go to whatever source for help a few weeks ago.) The Help system that comes *with* the product is very good. But, it does not, and really can not address general installation, crash issues obviously. -- MzK “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself?” -- Anais Nin
Re: Look at the pretty branches
On 11/14/2012 3:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I see that our project is growing new branches. Would it make sense to start documenting these on a wiki page, so it is clear what each one is, and who is maintaining it? Current branches are: AOO34/ --- Our 3.4.x branch, would be used if we ever need a 3.4.2 alg/ -- This is Armin's long-term graphics rendering improvement work, maybe integrated for AOO 4.1 gbuild/ -- This looks new, from Andrew. Sounds build-related. But what is it? And what is the plan for getting it integrated? Is this planned AOO 4.0? This is a continuation of this: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201209.mbox/%3c505a1dc4.5030...@oracle.com%3E integration of a set of CWSes: ause131 ause130 writerfilter10 gnumake4 sd2gbuild The initial branch for doing this work was deleted and this new branch created. With the original branch, I had applied all of the patches en masse, followed by one massive check-in. We'll just say that this was sub-optimal. After discussions at ApacheConEU - it was decided the best course was to start from scratch, that way we don't have to merge up to the latest trunk. I'm in the process now of applying and committing all the patches, followed by changing all the headers in newly created files. fun A. writer001/ -- Ditto. What is it and what is the plan for getting it integrated? Thanks! -Rob
Re: Editing needed on BZ footer -- remove podling reference
On 11/14/2012 18:47, Kay Schenk wrote: HI -- Could one of our BZ admins please remove the podling reference in the footer area for Apache OOo Bugzilla? Thanks. Hi, Kay, A little research in the BZ Help [1] reveals in Section 6.3.5 that the global footer is in a template, global/footer.html.tmpl. AFAIK it will take root access to the system to change, i.e., we need a site maintainer to do it. HTH, /tj/ [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/docs/en/html/cust-templates.html
Re: Compiling Symphony
2012/11/14 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com On 14.11.2012 14:37, Chao Huang wrote: 2012/11/14 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com Hi, I am currently trying to get an overview of the implementation and API that could be reused for the new task pane/sidebar feature. It will be an interesting work! For this I am looking also at the symphony branch in our repository. But just looking at the source code is not so easy, because the Writer already has a feature that is internally called sidebar (probably for displaying notes/annotations/comments). Therefore I would like to compile Symphony and use the debugger to find the relevant code parts. Yes, debugging the source code is a quick way to study code. But our symphony branch does not compile out of the box, at least not for me. Has anybody ever successfully build Symphony from our repository? Of cause, I did full build for Symphony's source code on Windows/Linux/Mac. There is a build guide for it on openoffice wiki [1]. I hope you can make a full build on your local dev env. [1]http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/How_to_build_Symphony%** 27s_source_codehttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_build_Symphony%27s_source_code Tried that but with no luck so far. There are still several build breakers: - The configure.in from the symphony branch does not know two of the options mentioned on the Wiki page: --with-use-shell=bash --enable-bundled-dictionaries - configure.in adds the line ADDITIONAL_REPOSITORIES=../**ext_libraries to winenv.set.sh but ext_libraries/ does not exist in the symphony branch. - The external libraries icu and hunspell can not be loaded by bootstrap The directory/file list under $SRC_ROOT should be - ext_libraries - ext_sources - extras - help - l10n - main - README There was two links for ext_libraries and ext_sources. But I do not know that why there are not existed now. Please get ext_libraries from https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/branches/AOO34/ext_libraries/ Please get ext_sources from https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/branches/AOO34/ext_sources/; (You can find that hunspell is there) As mentioned in Symphony's build guide. Please get icu package from http://download.icu-project.org/files/icu4c/4.8.1/icu4c-4_8_1-src.tgz;, then change the name to af36f635271a239d76d038d6cf8da8df-icu4c-4_8_1-src.tgz and put it under $SRC_ROOT/ext_sources - Some .cxx files in VCL do not include the precompiled headers and thus break the build. - You have to pass the --disable-coinmp switch to configure. Otherwise the build breaks because the coinmp module can not be found (because it does not exist in the symphony branch) Please use the switches listed in Symphony's build guide. I will check the issue for coinmp. I was able to fix all of the above. At the moment I try to figure a linker problem in VCL. Please feel free to post the detail about build break. Which platform are you building on? Windows or Linux? I will try to make a full build on Windows XP. Best regards, Andre I have managed to get to VCL, mostly by deactivating features. But I guess that I can not disable VCL :-) Regards, Andre -- Best regards, Chao Huang
Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866
I install a JDK 32bit on my windows 64bit env, There is no issue on Windows 64bit BVT. 2012/10/30 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi, On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:40:53PM +0800, Li Feng Wang wrote: Hi,all, I already run BVT on OO snapshot r1400866 Result: Passed with known issue. Details: http://people.apache.org/~liuzhe/testdashboard/#bvt Detail in 350m1(Build:9611)-2012-10-23 and 350m1(Build:9611)-2012-10-22, total 10 platforms Known Issues: Bug 119525 - AOo doesn't work with Java 1.7 on Windows https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119525 This issue should be fixed, as long as you have a 32 bits JRE on your Windows 64 bits. What remains is that OpenOffice does not work with a 64 bits JRE, but this is no issue: OpenOffice is a 32 bits application on Windows. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- Best Wishes, LiFeng Wang
Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: actually we do had faqs, many of them actually, the main issue is mantaining such FAQs. this remind me of a xkcd http://xkcd.com/927/ On 11/14/12, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: This is mainly a community-relations / public outreach idea. I noticed that when we do a blog post we get a lot of unrelated questions, some of them quite good. So I'm thinking -- there must be a lot of good questions out there. They could range from How do I... to 'Why did you... to What if you did..., etc. Here is what I would try to update: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ So the proposal is to use Google Moderator, like we did before for the AOO 4.0 ideas, and use it to gather and rate questions. We call it Ask OpenOffice. After some period of time (a month?) we take the top-rated 10 (or top 5?) questions and respond to them in a blog post. This could become a regular thing that we repeat every 6 months or so, Ask OpenOffice 2, Ask OpenOffice 3, etc. Downside? We could get some awkward questions. But if such a question gets into the top 10, then we should give it a serious response, right? This is a challenge and an opportunity. What do you think? -Rob I like this. I've thought *for a while* to cull through the Forums (still no time dedicated to it), and come up with some FAQ for the product. What you're suggesting is another alternative to this. Of course this approach would include questions about new features too. We really SHOULD do something like this. We have no formal FAQ near as I can determine. (I think we had this discussion vis a vis when is the user likely go to whatever source for help a few weeks ago.) The Help system that comes *with* the product is very good. But, it does not, and really can not address general installation, crash issues obviously. -- MzK “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself?” -- Anais Nin -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: desktop publishing
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Phillip Zadro ricaza1...@hotmail.com.auwrote: hi Is there any likelihood that OpenOffice will one day include a desktop publisher? You can use Draw as a DTP application without much problem, combined with the OpenClipart extension it's quite useful, not at the level of Scribus but useful nonetheless There is only one thing that is stopping me from migrating completely from Microsoft Office to either OpenOffice or LibreOffice and it is their lack of a Desktop Publisher comparable with MS Publisher. I have used Publisher for over 15 years and love its practicality, particularly with paginating of booklets. Even a separate program like Serif PagePlus cannot save in MS format either, so I am obliged to stay with MS Office. Pity.. I'm afraid you'll have to blame Microsoft for that. No-one else uses or exports or imports .pub files for a number of good reasons: First MS don't tell anyone the specification of the file format so it would have to be back engineered. Secondly and more importantly nobody wants to use it. It's a rubbish file format for a purpose that is covered by far better formats that have an open specification. Publishers and printers use it under protest and some (read most) refuse to accept anything in .pub format. Think about it, a printer/publisher has to pay for an instance of MS Publisher if they are going to work with MS Publisher files, because no other progamme reads the format, whereas there a numerous programmes that work with PDF and the reader is free to download and there are any number of programmes that will do this. OpenOffice will edit them with the right extension. The likliehood is that the projects, both Libre and AOO will continue to develop the PDF capabilities of OO to produce high quality publishable documents, but I doubt that there is the necessity or in fact the will to attempt to back engineer a deadend format. If Publisher suits you then stick with it, but there's a reason the professionals use anything but. Cheers GL Thanks Phil
Re: desktop publishing
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Phillip Zadro ricaza1...@hotmail.com.auwrote: hi Is there any likelihood that OpenOffice will one day include a desktop publisher? There is only one thing that is stopping me from migrating completely from Microsoft Office to either OpenOffice or LibreOffice and it is their lack of a Desktop Publisher comparable with MS Publisher. I have used Publisher for over 15 years and love its practicality, particularly with paginating of booklets. Even a separate program like Serif PagePlus cannot save in MS format either, so I am obliged to stay with MS Office. Pity.. Thanks Phil Draw is a perfect Desktop publisher, is so perfect is compatible with other desktop publishers like Scribus and is based on a frame based paradigm. There are some features that would be desirable but is pretty easy to complete basic and medium tasks like Flyers, Booklets and all it has layers which keeps design separated from content. And have multiple layouts and use of vectorial forms. With improved use of SVG Draw is also gaining strenght in the area of design compatibility and would be improving as more features are considered. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Proposal: Ask OpenOffice promotion
What a great idea. I'm copying this to the ComDev list so others can consider it. Having said that this one reason this would work for AOO is that it has such a large non-technical user community., something that's not really true of other Apache projects. If any projects adapt the idea please feed back here. Sent from my tablet On Nov 14, 2012 11:42 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: This is mainly a community-relations / public outreach idea. I noticed that when we do a blog post we get a lot of unrelated questions, some of them quite good. So I'm thinking -- there must be a lot of good questions out there. They could range from How do I... to 'Why did you... to What if you did..., etc. So the proposal is to use Google Moderator, like we did before for the AOO 4.0 ideas, and use it to gather and rate questions. We call it Ask OpenOffice. After some period of time (a month?) we take the top-rated 10 (or top 5?) questions and respond to them in a blog post. This could become a regular thing that we repeat every 6 months or so, Ask OpenOffice 2, Ask OpenOffice 3, etc. Downside? We could get some awkward questions. But if such a question gets into the top 10, then we should give it a serious response, right? This is a challenge and an opportunity. What do you think? -Rob
Re: Missing option in right click under OO 3.4.1
On 29/10/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 25/10/2012 Eric Byers wrote: MS Office was installed first. Followed by OO 3.4.1 After the installation of OO, the option under the right mouse click for a new MS Word document was removed. Right click in a folder space, select New - spreadsheets, text documents and others show as possible selections, however the MS Word option no longer exists. I use it frequently. Please direct me as to how to re-add this option to my right click menu. It seems this is a common problem with Office 2010 rather than something related to OpenOffice. For instance, there are several solutions discussed at http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-files/right-click-menu-in-explorer-desktop-missing-new/f0244fe4-216b-459c-b48f-a3d0396b6b11 For the record, the user let me know that he solved the problem and he allowed me to share the solution here. Please find it below. --- The link was to a Microsoft blog entry that walked through the modification of the registry. The main difference is that I was not missing the OPenWithList key. In my case the default had simply been overwritten. While I did add the other keys as suggested within OpenWithList, I suspect the main fix was when I followed the last suggestion to rename the default since my default had been switched to OO. Here is the relevant portion: I opened the registry to – HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.docx Steps creating keys are done on the left window pane in the registry. 1) Below the .docx key I create the first key that was missing by right clicking on the “.docx” key then go down to New, then left click on Key and name it “OpenWithList” without the quotes. Inside of that key is the automatically created String Value (default) REG_SZ (value not set) 2) Inside of the “OpenWithList” create the second key. Right click on the “OpenWithList” key then go down to New, then left click on Key and name this new key “WordPad.exe” without the quotes. Inside of that key is the automatically created String Value (default) REG_SZ (value not set) 3) Right click on the “.docx” key then go down to New, then left click on Key to create the third key and name it “Word.Document.12” without the quotes. Inside of that key is the automatically created String Value (default) REG_SZ (value not set) 4) Right click on the “Word.Document.12” key then go down to New, then left click on Key to create the fourth key and name it “ShellNew” without the quotes. Inside of that key is the automatically created String Value (default) REG_SZ (value not set) The next thing to do is to create a string value newly created “ShellNew” key but this is done in the window on the right side. 5) Left click on ShellNew in the left window to select the key. Now in the window on the right side; Right click in the empty space go to New then select String Value. Name the new string “NullFile” without the quotes, Type is REG_SZ Leave the data empty. 6) Lastly, in the left window left click on key .docx, In the right side window make sure that the data of the (Default) string is Word.Document.12 – To change it, doubleclick on the string named (Default) , a window will open up and you change the data value to Word.Document.12 (My data value was “docx_auto_file”) --- Regards, Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] Do we want download links for Dev Builds on a usual webpage?
On 11/11/2012 Kay Schenk wrote: On 11/11/2012 04:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds (they are also called with/without system integration respectively). OK, I see this note and I confess I don't pay much attention to it, and typically install in parallel for these. But, I keep the same user profile if you will, and this doesn't seem to cause problems for me. Right now this note says: This week's builds are built without system integration. Is the the normal? What is normal highly depends on the status of the builds we are providing. For ordinary snapshots, without system integration is normal because they will co-exist with a stable version and be updated frequently; this would be the case for a beta release too, but as we approach release we will want to test system integration too and the normal snapshot will have system integration enabled. This is agreed on a case-by-case basis when we start building. Regards, Andrea.
