Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice
On 26.11.2012 04:32, j...@apache.org wrote: Author: joes Date: Mon Nov 26 03:32:20 2012 New Revision: 1413471 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1413471view=rev Log: mv ooo to top-level Added: openoffice/ - copied from r1413470, incubator/ooo/ So our locations in the SVN repository were moved as discussed last week. Thank you, Joe! Here are the instructions to switch your checkouts to the new location: In case you are using SVN natively please change into the directory where your checked out AOO and run svn switch https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk there. If you are not working on trunk you have to replace trunk by the branches/bname (with bname being the branch name you are interested in), of course. In case you are using git-svn please change into the directory of your git-svn clone, open the file .git/config and find the section named [svn-remote svn] in there. In the url= line of that section please change the incubator/ooo part of the URL to openoffice. Herbert
Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch for development? Hi Steve, this is good news. I would suggest that you give some details what do you expect to implement when. The integration of IAccessible2 is a bigger task and I don't see it all integrated in the next 4 month or so. Creating a new feature task in bugzilla would be the normal procedure and a new branch is a must from my perspective for this huge piece of work. Good to see progress on this important integration. Juergen -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: Apache OpenOffice / Linuxday 2012 in Dornbirn
Hi Detlef, thanks for sharing this informative report and thanks for representing AOO on the Linuxday. The report is good and the outcome is that users welcome that OpenOfifce is still alive and found a new home under the ASF. But it also shows that many, many user are confused and don't really understand the difference between AOO and LO. Something where we can work on to communicate our message more clearly. Juergen On 11/25/12 11:26 PM, Detlef Nannen wrote: In german ... translate.google.com is your friend ;-) -- Hallo zusammen, Raphael Bircher und ich waren gestern für Apache OpenOffice (AOO) auf dem Linuxday in Dornbirn. Zuerst: Die Messe war von der Linux User Group Dornbirn super organisiert. Ich kann nur sagen, Hut ab! Bilder findet Ihr sicher in den nächsten Tagen auf www.linuxday.at Wir waren gemeinsam mit LibreOffice (LO) an einen Abschnitt platziert. Das gab gleich Fragen nach dem Unterschied und dem Verhältnis zwischen LO/AOO. Also einiges an interessanten Gesprächen am Stand, die auch Verunsicherung über LO/AOO erkennen ließ. Die Entscheidung, was für die Zukunft die richtige Software ist, lag einigen doch sehr am Herzen. Besonders der einzige erkennbare Firmenbesucher sprach uns darauf an, wie er sich gegenüber seinen Kunden verhalten kann, wenn er als Berater selbst nicht erkennen kann wohin die Reise geht. Weiter einige Privatpersonen, Lehrer und andere Standbetreiber. Das angenehmste war für mich, dass fast alle Besucher erfreut feststellten, dass es OpenOffice noch gibt, und das AOO von ihnen wohl als DER Nachfolger oder die Weiterführung angesehen wird. (Schön, dass es OpenOffice wieder/noch gibt!) Unsere Flyer, 4 schnelle Plakate, und mein sehr alter IBM-Thinkpad mit AOO waren auf Ubuntu alles was wir an Messematerial hatten. Ohne unser bisschen Zeugs wären wir völlig Blank gewesen. (Ich bin da beruflich etwas verwöhnt.) Falls Interesse besteht, AOO weiter und öfter auf Messen zu präsentieren, müssen wir uns nach meiner Meinung generell was einfallen lassen. Nochmal vielen Dank an Jan Christian Wienand, Jörg Schmidt und Josef Latt für die schnelle Unterstützung und Hinweise. Also, mir hat es sehr gefallen, und ich plane es für 2013 mal grob mit ein (was noch keine feste Zusage bedeutet :-).
[QA Report]Weekly QA status update
Hi all,
I want to post QA weekly report to wiki, but I was rejected, it said
permission denied. I know there is something happened with Mwiki that new
users cannot registered by themselves. But I didn't realize that creating
new page is also restricted.
I update QA status in this mail(only what's new)
QA task progress
Task ID
Total Defect Number
Verified
Remained
Complete Rate
{{Bug|121359}}
8
2
6
25%
{{Bug|121365}}
6
5
1
83%
{{Bug|121368}}
15
0
15
0%
{{Bug|121366}}
21
0
21
0%
--
Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji
Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1
On 23/11/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: 1. Only new languages, no bugfixes, no other code changes We add the new languages on top of the existing AOO34 branch, build the office with the new languages and release the new languages as convenience binary packages. We also build a new src release package and add the revision number ... aoo-3.4.1-rev1372282-src.tar.bz2 This is the best solution for me. 2. New languages + bug-fixes or security fixes The micro number will be increased and we do a normal release cycle. The src release will contain the revision number in future always. This could still be a possibility, but only if we need to fix a critical security bug and 4.0 seems too far away. In that case, of course, we would need to release a 3.4.2 with only that security fix and doing so we would include all languages that are ready for 3.4. 1. set a deadline for new translations, for exmaple December 31, 2012 2. integrate the new languages and provide the builds until January 10, 2013 3. test and verify the new language builds asap 4. release the new languages at the end of January All fine to me. I would honestly have started with what we already have and release it as soon as possible, and possibly with another release manager (so, Juergen focused on 4.x someone else works on the maintenance releases of 3.4.x), to test the process and avoid late surprises or policy questions. But if for the time being this is the best solution for release management, fine. Sure, in future we should definitely avoid that it takes this long to get a translation integrated and released. So I would try to use this occasion to learn how we can streamline the release process as much as possible. But let's start to communicate clear deadlines to volunteers, Regards, Andrea.
Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1
On 11/26/12 10:54 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 23/11/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: 1. Only new languages, no bugfixes, no other code changes We add the new languages on top of the existing AOO34 branch, build the office with the new languages and release the new languages as convenience binary packages. We also build a new src release package and add the revision number ... aoo-3.4.1-rev1372282-src.tar.bz2 This is the best solution for me. 2. New languages + bug-fixes or security fixes The micro number will be increased and we do a normal release cycle. The src release will contain the revision number in future always. This could still be a possibility, but only if we need to fix a critical security bug and 4.0 seems too far away. In that case, of course, we would need to release a 3.4.2 with only that security fix and doing so we would include all languages that are ready for 3.4. 1. set a deadline for new translations, for exmaple December 31, 2012 2. integrate the new languages and provide the builds until January 10, 2013 3. test and verify the new language builds asap 4. release the new languages at the end of January All fine to me. I would honestly have started with what we already have and release it as soon as possible, and possibly with another release manager (so, Juergen focused on 4.x someone else works on the maintenance releases of 3.4.x), to test the process and avoid late surprises or policy questions. But if for the time being this is the best solution for release management, fine. Sure, in future we should definitely avoid that it takes this long to get a translation integrated and released. So I would try to use this occasion to learn how we can streamline the release process as much as possible. But let's start to communicate clear deadlines to volunteers, I have include the deadline end of December already in my blog draft that I will publish later today. I will work on some update int eh wiki to reflect this plan in more detail. Juergen
Re: [QA BUG] - some regression defects were found by GUI perfromance test
Hi I tested the regression defect *Bug 121200*https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121200on latest build, performance downgrade still exist. Pls see http://people.apache.org/~liuzhe/testdashboard/#pvt_gui_Benchmark But the status of bug121200 is fixed. I suggest to re-analyze this defect to see if there is any other problem. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Linyi Li lilinyi921...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jianfang, Thanks for your clarification. I will retest it when the build is ready:) On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:20 PM, zhangjf zhan...@apache.org wrote: Hi, For bug 121199, it has the same root cause as bug 121134, so I just duplicated it with bug 121134. And Jinlong still doesn't have the commit right yet, so he only put the fix patch into bug 121134. I have just delivered this piece of fix code by revision 1402153. Hopefully there will be a build for test tomorrow. Thank you again for the great bug finding. zhangjf On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Linyi Li lilinyi921...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Herbert, I checked defect[2] on r1401602, it still has this problem. Could you tell me which build you tested? About defect[1], I saw there is a response: --- Comment #5 from wujinl...@gmail.com --- This is a known bug, and I have already had a fix for it. Please see bug 121134 for details. CC to wujinlong, is this fix already commited to trunk build? Defect[3] is found on ubuntu12.04, 32bit. It is OK on ubuntu12.04 64bit. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Linyi Li lilinyi921...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Herbert. I will check[1][2] in current build:) On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On 24.10.2012 07:34, Linyi Li wrote: I did GUI performance test of AOO trunk build. I found some defects[1][2][3], and two of them are regression ones[1][2]. Great finds and great bug reports, thank you! And kudos to the wonderful automated testing framework that allows to run such extensive tests with that thoroughness and frequency. I think defects[1][2] are severe which will block users‘ normal use of AOO, so is there anyone who can help to fix these defects? I looked into them and updated their status: [1] Bug 121199 - [Automation][Regression]**Crashed when loading 2 docx files. The patch that caused the crashes is known and reverting it solves the problem. But probably the patch can be updated to fix both the new and the original issues. The developers knowing the patch best were CC'ed. [2] Bug 121200 - [Regression][Automation][**Performance]Severe downgrade to save xls sample files. This seems to be fixed in the current trunk revision. [3] Bug 121256 - Crash when saving ppt on Linux. This cannot be reproduced here. If anyone sees the problem please attach a stack trace in the issue. If possible for a build with sufficient debug info. Herbert -- Best wishes. Linyi Li -- Best wishes. Linyi Li -- Best wishes. Linyi Li -- Best wishes. Linyi Li
spam attack
Having been bedevilled by OpenOffice 3.4.1 System crashes to the extent of wanting to ditch the whole programme I now understand the programme is under spam attack and you ask users to contact you for a solution. That would be most welcome. Regards, Gordon Cairns
Re: spam attack
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:01:32 + Cairns watchho...@btinternet.com wrote: Having been bedevilled by OpenOffice 3.4.1 System crashes to the extent of wanting to ditch the whole programme I now understand the programme is under spam attack and you ask users to contact you for a solution. That would be most welcome. Regards, Gordon Cairns The stability of OpenOffice is a matter of interaction with your operating system. You need to tell us what your operating system is and what symptoms you are experiencing. You may also find it of use to search the Forum at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ I doubt that any such instability is caused by a spam attack; the current spam attack is to the mwiki pages. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: spam attack
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:01:32 + Cairns watchho...@btinternet.com wrote: Having been bedevilled by OpenOffice 3.4.1 System crashes to the extent of wanting to ditch the whole programme I now understand the programme is under spam attack and you ask users to contact you for a solution. That would be most welcome. Regards, Gordon Cairns The stability of OpenOffice is a matter of interaction with your operating system. You need to tell us what your operating system is and what symptoms you are experiencing. You may also find it of use to search the Forum at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ I doubt that any such instability is caused by a spam attack; the current spam attack is to the mwiki pages. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Gallery extension from Symphony ressources
Hi List, I took a closer look at Symphony's checked in ressources concerning the gallery. There are quite some nice and useful additional themes there we (and our users) should benefit from. Thus, I propose (and volunteer :-) to integrate these to the trunk. Please have a look at a current Symphony version or look at the provides symphony sourcecode to get an impression (it's in main/extras/source/gallery). The added themes are: arrows bullets computers diagrams education environment finance gallery_sound gallery_system people sounds symbols transportation txtshapes The currently existing themes in trunk are: bullets gallery_sound gallery_system htmpexpo rulers sounds ww-back www-graf Where bullets, gallery_sound, gallery_system and sounds are double. I propose to just merge the contents. (gallery_sound and gallery_system are hidden, internal themes). For info: ww-back and www-graf are also hidden themes which are used in Writer's www export. I think these themes are useful for a wide variety of users and I will try to just merge them smoothly to have these available. All contents are in png format (not yet svg) with transparencies and offer quite some useful stuff. We should have them in that format for now, conversion to SVG is not realistic due to many contained gradients. For adding future themes I propose to use svg, but for now we should use what we have. Same is true for evtl. later add online data access for the gallery for clipart libraries (which support svg). But one step after the other... I'm currently inverstigating on the issue (wrote #121407# for it, see there) and will report how much size it would add to download packages. Suggestions welcome! Sincerely, Armin -- ALG
Re: Gallery extension from Symphony ressources
Hi Jani, On 26.11.2012 14:56, janI wrote: +1 I am all for extra themes. My only concern is the size, at some point, we might consider, making an extra package, like with languages. Yes, I will have a look at the size. That's the background for ckecing this first... Hopefully, it's not getting too much extra. Still, we will need to weight between more size and usefulness. We need numbers first... Jan. On 26 November 2012 14:44, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi List, I took a closer look at Symphony's checked in ressources concerning the gallery. There are quite some nice and useful additional themes there we (and our users) should benefit from. Thus, I propose (and volunteer :-) to integrate these to the trunk. Please have a look at a current Symphony version or look at the provides symphony sourcecode to get an impression (it's in main/extras/source/gallery). The added themes are: arrows bullets computers diagrams education environment finance gallery_sound gallery_system people sounds symbols transportation txtshapes The currently existing themes in trunk are: bullets gallery_sound gallery_system htmpexpo rulers sounds ww-back www-graf Where bullets, gallery_sound, gallery_system and sounds are double. I propose to just merge the contents. (gallery_sound and gallery_system are hidden, internal themes). For info: ww-back and www-graf are also hidden themes which are used in Writer's www export. I think these themes are useful for a wide variety of users and I will try to just merge them smoothly to have these available. All contents are in png format (not yet svg) with transparencies and offer quite some useful stuff. We should have them in that format for now, conversion to SVG is not realistic due to many contained gradients. For adding future themes I propose to use svg, but for now we should use what we have. Same is true for evtl. later add online data access for the gallery for clipart libraries (which support svg). But one step after the other... I'm currently inverstigating on the issue (wrote #121407# for it, see there) and will report how much size it would add to download packages. Suggestions welcome! Sincerely, Armin -- ALG
Re: spam attack
Copy to Gordon Cairns - Non-Subscribed Poster Original Message From: Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:51:40 + On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:01:32 + Cairns watchho...@btinternet.com wrote: Having been bedevilled by OpenOffice 3.4.1 System crashes to the extent of wanting to ditch the whole programme I now understand the programme is under spam attack and you ask users to contact you for a solution. That would be most welcome. Regards, Gordon Cairns The stability of OpenOffice is a matter of interaction with your operating system. You need to tell us what your operating system is and what symptoms you are experiencing. You may also find it of use to search the Forum at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ I doubt that any such instability is caused by a spam attack; the current spam attack is to the mwiki pages. Just to further clarify Rory's reply. It is not the program itself which came under spam attack, it was the Wiki area of the project's web services. The attack has now been thwarted by an excellent team of hardworking volunteers. Please post back to this list or the user support list us...@openoffice.apache.org with the information Rory suggested for assistance in resolving the issues you are experiencing.
Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice
Following up to myself: In case you are using git-svn please change into the directory of your git-svn clone, open the file .git/config and find the section named [svn-remote svn] in there. In the url= line of that section please change the incubator/ooo part of the URL to openoffice. If you are running into problems with this simple approach please use the extended instructions for the General Case at https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitSvnSwitch Thanks for the feedback, Oliver-Rainer! Herbert
Fwd: Bug in Impress: report
I should have added that in Text Animation I checked Animate attached shape. I have just tried it with a Wipe effect instead of Appear and the same crash happened Tony Hagon Original Message Subject:Bug in Impress: report Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:59:31 + From: Tony Hagon perso...@inter2000.co.uk To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Hello I wonder if you would please pass this bug report to whoever cares about it I use Impress 3.4.1 on XP SP3. On a presentation today, I created a text box, font Jane Austen (a script type font). In custom animation I selected Appear, On click Properties Text animation: As one object Effects: Animate: Letter by letter. Selected ok and OpenOffice crashed. I repeated the exercise several times and it crashed at the same point HTH Tony Hagon Glenrhu Bowermadden Scotland
Bug in Impress: report
Hello I wonder if you would please pass this bug report to whoever cares about it I use Impress 3.4.1 on XP SP3. On a presentation today, I created a text box, font Jane Austen (a script type font). In custom animation I selected Appear, On click Properties Text animation: As one object Effects: Animate: Letter by letter. Selected ok and OpenOffice crashed. I repeated the exercise several times and it crashed at the same point HTH Tony Hagon Glenrhu Bowermadden Scotland
RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
Is this to be based on the Symphony code? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 01:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch for development? Hi Steve, this is good news. I would suggest that you give some details what do you expect to implement when. The integration of IAccessible2 is a bigger task and I don't see it all integrated in the next 4 month or so. Creating a new feature task in bugzilla would be the normal procedure and a new branch is a must from my perspective for this huge piece of work. Good to see progress on this important integration. Juergen -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Is this to be based on the Symphony code? Dennis, we have Symphony code within IBM. Remember, we wrote it. Whatever code we check in is covered by signed ICLA's and CCLA's. That should address all reasonable concerns with regards to the provenance of the code. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 01:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch for development? Hi Steve, this is good news. I would suggest that you give some details what do you expect to implement when. The integration of IAccessible2 is a bigger task and I don't see it all integrated in the next 4 month or so. Creating a new feature task in bugzilla would be the normal procedure and a new branch is a must from my perspective for this huge piece of work. Good to see progress on this important integration. Juergen -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: svn commit: r839584 - /infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf
Herbert,
Did you run switch on the svn tree for the windows nightly build? That
seems to be the only piece not updated by this change.
A.
On 11/26/2012 12:30 AM, h...@apache.org wrote:
Author: hdu
Date: Mon Nov 26 08:30:23 2012
New Revision: 839584
Log:
after graduation openoffice moved from incubator/ooo
Modified:
infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf
Modified:
infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf
==
---
infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf
(original)
+++
infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf
Mon Nov 26 08:30:23 2012
@@ -3,32 +3,32 @@
# schedulers
c['schedulers'].append(AnyBranchScheduler(name=on-openofficeorg-commit,
- branches=[incubator/ooo/site],
+ branches=[openoffice/site],
treeStableTimer=2,
builderNames=[openofficeorg-site-staging]))
c['schedulers'].append(Nightly(name='openoffice-linux64-nightly',
builderNames=['openoffice-linux64-nightly'],
- branch='incubator/ooo/trunk',
+ branch='openoffice/trunk',
hour=4,
minute=10))
c['schedulers'].append(Nightly(name='openoffice-linux64-rat',
builderNames=['openoffice-linux64-rat'],
- branch='incubator/ooo/trunk',
+ branch='openoffice/trunk',
dayOfWeek=0,
hour=3,
minute=10))
c['schedulers'].append(Nightly(name='openoffice-linux32-nightly',
builderNames=['openoffice-linux32-nightly'],
- branch='incubator/ooo/trunk',
+ branch='openoffice/trunk',
hour=4,
minute=20))
c['schedulers'].append(Nightly(name='aoo-win7-weekly',
builderNames=['aoo-win7'],
- branch='incubator/ooo/trunk',
+ branch='openoffice/trunk',
properties={'rsync_opts':'--delete'},
dayOfWeek=0,
hour=6,
@@ -36,13 +36,13 @@ c['schedulers'].append(Nightly(name='aoo
c['schedulers'].append(Nightly(name='aoo-win7-nightly',
builderNames=['aoo-win7'],
- branch='incubator/ooo/trunk',
+ branch='openoffice/trunk',
hour=4,
minute=30))
c['schedulers'].append(Nightly(name='aoo-win7-snapshot',
builderNames=['aoo-w7snap'],
- branch='incubator/ooo/trunk',
+ branch='openoffice/trunk',
dayOfWeek=0,
hour=2,
minute=30))
@@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ c['status'].append(mail.MailNotifier(fro
# schedulers
c['schedulers'].append(AnyBranchScheduler(name=on-ooo-site-commit,
- branches=[incubator/ooo/ooo-site],
+ branches=[openoffice/ooo-site],
treeStableTimer=2,
builderNames=[ooo-site-site-staging]))
@@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ f_ooo_1 = factory.BuildFactory()
f_ooo_1.addStep(SVN(
mode=copy,
baseURL=http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/;,
-defaultBranch=incubator/ooo/trunk,
+defaultBranch=openoffice/trunk,
))
f_ooo_1.addStep(SetProperty(command=date +%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S, property=today))
@@ -228,7 +228,7 @@ f_ooo_1r = factory.BuildFactory()
f_ooo_1r.addStep(SVN(
mode=copy,
baseURL=http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/;,
-defaultBranch=incubator/ooo/trunk,
+defaultBranch=openoffice/trunk,
))
# RAT reporting. An xml config file on the slave points the rat jar to main/rat-excludes as part of its run.
@@ -418,7 +418,7 @@ c['builders'].append(b_ooo_w1)
f_ooo_w2 = factory.BuildFactory()
# svn under cygwin - as required by windows build
-# f_ooo_w2.addStep(Compile(command=[winbash , '-cliex', 'cd
/cygdrive/e/slave14/aoo-w7snap/ ; svn co
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/tags/SNAPSHOT build_svn'],
+# f_ooo_w2.addStep(Compile(command=[winbash , '-cliex', 'cd
/cygdrive/e/slave14/aoo-w7snap/ ; svn co
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/tags/SNAPSHOT build_svn'],
f_ooo_w2.addStep(Compile(command=[winbash , '-cliex', 'cd
/cygdrive/e/slave14/aoo-w7snap/ ; svn up build_svn'],
haltOnFailure=True, workdir=build,
description=[updating,reference source],
descriptionDone=[updated,reference source],
@@ -562,7 +562,7 @@ f_ooo_3 = factory.BuildFactory()
f_ooo_3.addStep(SVN(
mode=copy,
baseURL=http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/;,
-defaultBranch=incubator/ooo/trunk,
+defaultBranch=openoffice/trunk,
))
f_ooo_3.addStep(SetProperty(command=date +%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S, property=today))
--
Andrew Rist | Interoperability
Re: Bug in Impress: report
Thanks for the bug report. I've added it to our Bugzilla issue tracker here: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121410 If you create a BZ account you can watch this issue or enter additional comments. Regards, -Rob On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tony Hagon perso...@inter2000.co.uk wrote: Hello I wonder if you would please pass this bug report to whoever cares about it I use Impress 3.4.1 on XP SP3. On a presentation today, I created a text box, font Jane Austen (a script type font). In custom animation I selected Appear, On click Properties Text animation: As one object Effects: Animate: Letter by letter. Selected ok and OpenOffice crashed. I repeated the exercise several times and it crashed at the same point HTH Tony Hagon Glenrhu Bowermadden Scotland
Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
On 11/26/2012 13:40, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Is this to be based on the Symphony code? Dennis, we have Symphony code within IBM. Remember, we wrote it. Whatever code we check in is covered by signed ICLA's and CCLA's. That should address all reasonable concerns with regards to the provenance of the code. -Rob Rob, Cover concerns in the larger sense, yes: nobody should be worried that we or our downline customers will be jumping on anyone's copyright, by using the material in accordance with ALv2. But, in the smaller sense, maybe no. If the themes contain license information (presumably IBM's), then IIUC this /SHALL/ be changed by a duly authorized IBM employee before the code is added to AOO. (This is the same dull, demanding, and absolutely necessary job that Andrew Rist did for us, as authorized by Oracle.) A simple statement by Armand that no such license data exists, or by an IBM'er that the data will be changed, should allay any concerns; and we should feel confident of passing the RAT scan. /tj/ - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 01:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch for development? Hi Steve, this is good news. I would suggest that you give some details what do you expect to implement when. The integration of IAccessible2 is a bigger task and I don't see it all integrated in the next 4 month or so. Creating a new feature task in bugzilla would be the normal procedure and a new branch is a must from my perspective for this huge piece of work. Good to see progress on this important integration. Juergen -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1
Cancel me from the maling list Johanne Den 26. nov. 2012 kl. 04:51 skrev Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com: Welcome to join AOO! I suggest you can start from our New Volunteer Orientation page for how to do translation: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/translate.html . And besides the dev@openoffice.apache.org mail group, you should also subscript to l...@openoffice.apache.org, by sending an email to l10n-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org. In I10n, translation related topics/questions will be discussed in more details. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/11/26 胡其图 huq...@163.com Hi there, I am a mongolian where living in inner mongolia, china. and I want to build a traditional mongolian AOO if it possible. and I know there have a slav mongolian AOO, but this is not similar to traditional mongolian. tell me how to add about a language for traditional mongolian? At 2012-11-23 16:39:46,Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, we all know that the number of volunteers helping with translation is growing and we would like to make new languages as soon as possible available. This is important for two reason, first to make AOO available in further languages to reach more users. Second to show our volunteers that their work is appreciated and become integrated as soon as possible. We don't have a well defined process for doing it at moment but we will find a working way that will be ok for all of us. And we can improve it over time when see demand for changes or improvements, means we don't have to find a 100% perfect solution from the beginning. The most important part is how we do the naming of the different parts of such a release. I see two different scenarios: 1. Only new languages, no bugfixes, no other code changes We add the new languages on top of the existing AOO34 branch, build the office with the new languages and release the new languages as convenience binary packages. We also build a new src release package and add the revision number in the name to identify a respin of the orginal 3.4.1. For example: aoo-3.4.1-rev1372282-src.tar.bz2 This new src release becomes the default for 3.4.1 because it is a respin only (no functional changes) The revision number is part of the about dialog as well and it is possible to identify the respin. 2. New languages + bug-fixes or security fixes The micro number will be increased and we do a normal release cycle. The src release will contain the revision number in future always. Concrete proposal for 3.4.1 and new languages: 1. set a deadline for new translations, for exmaple December 31, 2012 2. integrate the new languages and provide the builds until January 10, 2013 3. test and verify the new language builds asap 4. release the new languages at the end of January Why a deadline until December: The reason is quite simply, we have 22 languages with an UI coverage of more than 95% (ok Turkish 93%). My plan is to prepare a blog entry and call again for volunteers for these languages where the effort is moderate. My hope is that we can integrate a few of the important ones. UI coverage with more than 93% == 100%: Danish 98%: Korean, Polish, Asturian, Uighur, Icelandic, Indonesian, Welsh, Catalan, Bulgarian, Latvian 97%: Greek, Basque 96%: English (South Africa) 95%: Portuguese, Swedish, Marathi, Kannada, Gujarati, Irish, Oriya 93%: Turkish Juergen
Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice
#rob: did you include subdirs in ooo-site, so that l10n and other are taken care of ? mwiki might be a special problem, since there are loads of text, but I am more or less getting used to writing mwiki sql worms (right now I am juggling with 63.517 spam user accounts), so I can have a look at it after the user problem. Jan On 26 November 2012 20:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 26.11.2012 04:32, j...@apache.org wrote: Author: joes Date: Mon Nov 26 03:32:20 2012 New Revision: 1413471 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1413471view=rev Log: mv ooo to top-level Added: openoffice/ - copied from r1413470, incubator/ooo/ So our locations in the SVN repository were moved as discussed last week. Thank you, Joe! Here are the instructions to switch your checkouts to the new location: In case you are using SVN natively please change into the directory where your checked out AOO and run svn switch https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk there. If you are not working on trunk you have to replace trunk by the branches/bname (with bname being the branch name you are interested in), of course. In case you are using git-svn please change into the directory of your git-svn clone, open the file .git/config and find the section named [svn-remote svn] in there. In the url= line of that section please change the incubator/ooo part of the URL to openoffice. I've edited the websites in /site and /ooo-site to update around 7 files that had hard-coded references to the old SVN address. I didn't see any mentions on the Mwiki. -Rob Herbert
Re: Request Mwiki account
On 11/26/2012 13:06, Thiago Ramos wrote: My username can be thiago_addlabs and e-mail this same. Thanks. Att, Thiago Giannini Ramos --- Analista de Sistemas - ADDLabs - IC/UFF http://www.addlabs.uff.br/ Av. Gal. Milton Tavares de Souza, s/nº - Niterói - RJ Done. Your confirmation email should be there by now. Please write again if you have problems. /tj/ (User:TJFrazier on Mwiki)
Re: Request Mwiki account
Just a question...I presume you send the whole account information in the e-mail, should we not advice to change the password, you might already have done it, but I just wanted to make sure we all did it. Jan. On 26 November 2012 22:59, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 11/26/2012 13:06, Thiago Ramos wrote: My username can be thiago_addlabs and e-mail this same. Thanks. Att, Thiago Giannini Ramos --**- Analista de Sistemas - ADDLabs - IC/UFF http://www.addlabs.uff.br/ Av. Gal. Milton Tavares de Souza, s/nº - Niterói - RJ Done. Your confirmation email should be there by now. Please write again if you have problems. /tj/ (User:TJFrazier on Mwiki)
Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
Am 11/26/2012 06:59 AM, schrieb Steve Yin: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch for development? Thats good news. I'm looking forward to this really long-wanted improvement. Marcus
Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Remember, we wrote it. Well, I suppose the notion of work for hire might provide some nuance to we. And the CCLA covers that side of it. I gather this means that IBM-associated contributors will make ALv2-covered contributions directly to the SVN and/or via patches and that is the provenance there is. That should safeguard the interests of the ASF. So what is the point of there being a Symphony portion of the SVN tree? Go back to the discussion on this list when we initially checked it in. We had a long discussion about what to do with that code, with the two main options being: 1) Make /symphony be the new trunk and merge the delta from AOO 3.4 into Symphony, or 2) Keep the current AOO trunk and merge selected features from Symphony into the AOO trunk. The decision ultimately was to do 2), what we refer to as the slow merge. Since we took that direction the /symphony tree has not undergone development. Its main value (in retrospect) was to support that decision making process. Of course, if we had decided to take the other approach then /symphony would become the new trunk and the usual clean up activities would have occurred on the way to releasing that trunk. Remember, IP Cleanup is not just about changing the headers. It is a longer process, culminating in a vote to accept the code base. Once a code base is accepted, we should be releasing it and doing the other kinds of maintenance functions -- security patches, etc. -- that a responsible PMC does for its releases. But I see zero volunteers stepping forward to maintain a second office suite in this project. So it makes no sense to me to spend time on a tree that we're never going to release. I now agree with a comment that you made in a previous discussion about this. I think it should be removed if it is never going to be IP-scrubbed. We have another direction in Subversion that is also odd. It has an eclectic set of licenses on its files. In some cases it includes files where we cannot clearly identify the license. Instead of hypotheticals we have actual examples of real 3rd parties wanting to reuse the files, but we're not always able to clearly point them to the license terms. We don't even have an SGA for these files. So should we delete this directory as well? Of course, I speak of our website in /ooo-site. IMHO, it is not a problem so long as we don't include it in a release. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:41 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Is this to be based on the Symphony code? Dennis, we have Symphony code within IBM. Remember, we wrote it. Whatever code we check in is covered by signed ICLA's and CCLA's. That should address all reasonable concerns with regards to the provenance of the code. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 01:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch for development? Hi Steve, this is good news. I would suggest that you give some details what do you expect to implement when. The integration of IAccessible2 is a bigger task and I don't see it all integrated in the next 4 month or so. Creating a new feature task in bugzilla would be the normal procedure and a new branch is a must from my perspective for this huge piece of work. Good to see progress on this important integration. Juergen -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
RE: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice
Just go to http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ and browse around to confirm that everything you are interested in is there. (Are you thinking of the l10n under openoffice/branches ? It does appear that all of openoffice/ooo-site and openoffice/site are there.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: janI [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 13:48 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice #rob: did you include subdirs in ooo-site, so that l10n and other are taken care of ? mwiki might be a special problem, since there are loads of text, but I am more or less getting used to writing mwiki sql worms (right now I am juggling with 63.517 spam user accounts), so I can have a look at it after the user problem. Jan On 26 November 2012 20:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 26.11.2012 04:32, j...@apache.org wrote: Author: joes Date: Mon Nov 26 03:32:20 2012 New Revision: 1413471 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1413471view=rev Log: mv ooo to top-level Added: openoffice/ - copied from r1413470, incubator/ooo/ So our locations in the SVN repository were moved as discussed last week. Thank you, Joe! Here are the instructions to switch your checkouts to the new location: In case you are using SVN natively please change into the directory where your checked out AOO and run svn switch https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk there. If you are not working on trunk you have to replace trunk by the branches/bname (with bname being the branch name you are interested in), of course. In case you are using git-svn please change into the directory of your git-svn clone, open the file .git/config and find the section named [svn-remote svn] in there. In the url= line of that section please change the incubator/ooo part of the URL to openoffice. I've edited the websites in /site and /ooo-site to update around 7 files that had hard-coded references to the old SVN address. I didn't see any mentions on the Mwiki. -Rob Herbert
Re: New wiki acount
On 11/26/2012 16:24, Vincent Thiry wrote: User name : balak064 Mail : balak...@gmail.com Thank you Done. You will want to change your password after you first log in. If you have any problems, please write again. /tj/ (User:TJFrazier on Mwiki)
Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice
I was thinking of http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ ooo-site/trunk/content/l10n The l10n branch is one I have created for development, and it contains only the source trunk at least yesterday, when I did an update, I am still working on svn switch to get my local copy updated. And it was merely the update that rob had made, that interested me. Jan I. On 26 November 2012 23:37, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Just go to http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ and browse around to confirm that everything you are interested in is there. (Are you thinking of the l10n under openoffice/branches ? It does appear that all of openoffice/ooo-site and openoffice/site are there.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: janI [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 13:48 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice #rob: did you include subdirs in ooo-site, so that l10n and other are taken care of ? mwiki might be a special problem, since there are loads of text, but I am more or less getting used to writing mwiki sql worms (right now I am juggling with 63.517 spam user accounts), so I can have a look at it after the user problem. Jan On 26 November 2012 20:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 26.11.2012 04:32, j...@apache.org wrote: Author: joes Date: Mon Nov 26 03:32:20 2012 New Revision: 1413471 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1413471view=rev Log: mv ooo to top-level Added: openoffice/ - copied from r1413470, incubator/ooo/ So our locations in the SVN repository were moved as discussed last week. Thank you, Joe! Here are the instructions to switch your checkouts to the new location: In case you are using SVN natively please change into the directory where your checked out AOO and run svn switch https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk there. If you are not working on trunk you have to replace trunk by the branches/bname (with bname being the branch name you are interested in), of course. In case you are using git-svn please change into the directory of your git-svn clone, open the file .git/config and find the section named [svn-remote svn] in there. In the url= line of that section please change the incubator/ooo part of the URL to openoffice. I've edited the websites in /site and /ooo-site to update around 7 files that had hard-coded references to the old SVN address. I didn't see any mentions on the Mwiki. -Rob Herbert
Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:44 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: I was thinking of http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ ooo-site/trunk/content/l10n The l10n branch is one I have created for development, and it contains only the source trunk at least yesterday, when I did an update, I am still working on svn switch to get my local copy updated. And it was merely the update that rob had made, that interested me. So my changes were simple. They were not renaming or moving files. I was editing the content of pages where they referred to locations in SVN. For example, we had a Subversion tutorial and another page that told visitors where to download the AOO source code from. Stuff like that. I don't think there were any L10n dependencies there. -Rob Jan I. On 26 November 2012 23:37, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Just go to http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ and browse around to confirm that everything you are interested in is there. (Are you thinking of the l10n under openoffice/branches ? It does appear that all of openoffice/ooo-site and openoffice/site are there.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: janI [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 13:48 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice #rob: did you include subdirs in ooo-site, so that l10n and other are taken care of ? mwiki might be a special problem, since there are loads of text, but I am more or less getting used to writing mwiki sql worms (right now I am juggling with 63.517 spam user accounts), so I can have a look at it after the user problem. Jan On 26 November 2012 20:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 26.11.2012 04:32, j...@apache.org wrote: Author: joes Date: Mon Nov 26 03:32:20 2012 New Revision: 1413471 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1413471view=rev Log: mv ooo to top-level Added: openoffice/ - copied from r1413470, incubator/ooo/ So our locations in the SVN repository were moved as discussed last week. Thank you, Joe! Here are the instructions to switch your checkouts to the new location: In case you are using SVN natively please change into the directory where your checked out AOO and run svn switch https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk there. If you are not working on trunk you have to replace trunk by the branches/bname (with bname being the branch name you are interested in), of course. In case you are using git-svn please change into the directory of your git-svn clone, open the file .git/config and find the section named [svn-remote svn] in there. In the url= line of that section please change the incubator/ooo part of the URL to openoffice. I've edited the websites in /site and /ooo-site to update around 7 files that had hard-coded references to the old SVN address. I didn't see any mentions on the Mwiki. -Rob Herbert
RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
I don't think the web site situation is an equivalent. I also don't think the choice of base for integration of Symphony features is relevant. I am concerned about the Symphony tree being in the public SVN and being an attractive nuisance. If it is not going to be morphed into something that can be worked with and integrated by the community of contributors, I recommend that it be gone. (Of course, I can remove it from any working copy that I possess, and I shall do that in switching to the new repository location.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 14:25 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Remember, we wrote it. Well, I suppose the notion of work for hire might provide some nuance to we. And the CCLA covers that side of it. I gather this means that IBM-associated contributors will make ALv2-covered contributions directly to the SVN and/or via patches and that is the provenance there is. That should safeguard the interests of the ASF. So what is the point of there being a Symphony portion of the SVN tree? Go back to the discussion on this list when we initially checked it in. We had a long discussion about what to do with that code, with the two main options being: 1) Make /symphony be the new trunk and merge the delta from AOO 3.4 into Symphony, or 2) Keep the current AOO trunk and merge selected features from Symphony into the AOO trunk. The decision ultimately was to do 2), what we refer to as the slow merge. Since we took that direction the /symphony tree has not undergone development. Its main value (in retrospect) was to support that decision making process. Of course, if we had decided to take the other approach then /symphony would become the new trunk and the usual clean up activities would have occurred on the way to releasing that trunk. Remember, IP Cleanup is not just about changing the headers. It is a longer process, culminating in a vote to accept the code base. Once a code base is accepted, we should be releasing it and doing the other kinds of maintenance functions -- security patches, etc. -- that a responsible PMC does for its releases. But I see zero volunteers stepping forward to maintain a second office suite in this project. So it makes no sense to me to spend time on a tree that we're never going to release. I now agree with a comment that you made in a previous discussion about this. I think it should be removed if it is never going to be IP-scrubbed. We have another direction in Subversion that is also odd. It has an eclectic set of licenses on its files. In some cases it includes files where we cannot clearly identify the license. Instead of hypotheticals we have actual examples of real 3rd parties wanting to reuse the files, but we're not always able to clearly point them to the license terms. We don't even have an SGA for these files. So should we delete this directory as well? Of course, I speak of our website in /ooo-site. IMHO, it is not a problem so long as we don't include it in a release. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:41 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Is this to be based on the Symphony code? Dennis, we have Symphony code within IBM. Remember, we wrote it. Whatever code we check in is covered by signed ICLA's and CCLA's. That should address all reasonable concerns with regards to the provenance of the code. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 01:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch for development? Hi Steve, this is good news. I would suggest that you give some details what do you expect to implement when. The integration of IAccessible2 is a bigger task and I don't see it all integrated in the next 4 month or so. Creating a new feature task in bugzilla would be the normal procedure and a new branch is a must from my perspective for this huge piece of work. Good to see progress on this important integration. Juergen
Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice
[top posting] hmmm...OK, I switched the svn for the project website to: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/site/trunk/ This is the only part I needed for now. I made some edits, and committed them...all good. But, they are NOT reflected on the old/actual staging site: http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/pmc-faqs.html and I'm not sure where this is now. Maybe I need to do a re-published but, well, I don't know if a new web area needs to be established first. I'll comment on our existing ticket for this. The user portal, www.openoffice.org, should work without issue (maybe?). It already has a basically a top-level web area. On 11/26/2012 02:49 PM, janI wrote: Got it...I just thought you had removed incubator in all links. Jan. On 26 November 2012 23:46, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:44 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: I was thinking of http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ ooo-site/trunk/content/l10n The l10n branch is one I have created for development, and it contains only the source trunk at least yesterday, when I did an update, I am still working on svn switch to get my local copy updated. And it was merely the update that rob had made, that interested me. So my changes were simple. They were not renaming or moving files. I was editing the content of pages where they referred to locations in SVN. For example, we had a Subversion tutorial and another page that told visitors where to download the AOO source code from. Stuff like that. I don't think there were any L10n dependencies there. -Rob Jan I. On 26 November 2012 23:37, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Just go to http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ and browse around to confirm that everything you are interested in is there. (Are you thinking of the l10n under openoffice/branches ? It does appear that all of openoffice/ooo-site and openoffice/site are there.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: janI [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 13:48 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice #rob: did you include subdirs in ooo-site, so that l10n and other are taken care of ? mwiki might be a special problem, since there are loads of text, but I am more or less getting used to writing mwiki sql worms (right now I am juggling with 63.517 spam user accounts), so I can have a look at it after the user problem. Jan On 26 November 2012 20:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 26.11.2012 04:32, j...@apache.org wrote: Author: joes Date: Mon Nov 26 03:32:20 2012 New Revision: 1413471 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1413471view=rev Log: mv ooo to top-level Added: openoffice/ - copied from r1413470, incubator/ooo/ So our locations in the SVN repository were moved as discussed last week. Thank you, Joe! Here are the instructions to switch your checkouts to the new location: In case you are using SVN natively please change into the directory where your checked out AOO and run svn switch https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk there. If you are not working on trunk you have to replace trunk by the branches/bname (with bname being the branch name you are interested in), of course. In case you are using git-svn please change into the directory of your git-svn clone, open the file .git/config and find the section named [svn-remote svn] in there. In the url= line of that section please change the incubator/ooo part of the URL to openoffice. I've edited the websites in /site and /ooo-site to update around 7 files that had hard-coded references to the old SVN address. I didn't see any mentions on the Mwiki. -Rob Herbert -- MzK “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself?” -- Anais Nin
RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
I think I've expressed my concerns. I have nothing to add. One follow-up question though: Previously you had offered to see if it was possible to get a permission letter from IBM to ASF allowing the project to adjust headers and notices to have them be under ALv2. Is that not going to happen? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 14:57 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 I don't think the web site situation is an equivalent. I also don't think the choice of base for integration of Symphony features is relevant. I am concerned about the Symphony tree being in the public SVN and being an attractive nuisance. If it is not going to be morphed into something that can be worked with and integrated by the community of contributors, I recommend that it be gone. (Of course, I can remove it from any working copy that I possess, and I shall do that in switching to the new repository location.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 14:25 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Remember, we wrote it. Well, I suppose the notion of work for hire might provide some nuance to we. And the CCLA covers that side of it. I gather this means that IBM-associated contributors will make ALv2-covered contributions directly to the SVN and/or via patches and that is the provenance there is. That should safeguard the interests of the ASF. So what is the point of there being a Symphony portion of the SVN tree? Go back to the discussion on this list when we initially checked it in. We had a long discussion about what to do with that code, with the two main options being: 1) Make /symphony be the new trunk and merge the delta from AOO 3.4 into Symphony, or 2) Keep the current AOO trunk and merge selected features from Symphony into the AOO trunk. The decision ultimately was to do 2), what we refer to as the slow merge. Since we took that direction the /symphony tree has not undergone development. Its main value (in retrospect) was to support that decision making process. Of course, if we had decided to take the other approach then /symphony would become the new trunk and the usual clean up activities would have occurred on the way to releasing that trunk. Remember, IP Cleanup is not just about changing the headers. It is a longer process, culminating in a vote to accept the code base. Once a code base is accepted, we should be releasing it and doing the other kinds of maintenance functions -- security patches, etc. -- that a responsible PMC does for its releases. But I see zero volunteers stepping forward to maintain a second office suite in this project. So it makes no sense to me to spend time on a tree that we're never going to release. I now agree with a comment that you made in a previous discussion about this. I think it should be removed if it is never going to be IP-scrubbed. We have another direction in Subversion that is also odd. It has an eclectic set of licenses on its files. In some cases it includes files where we cannot clearly identify the license. Instead of hypotheticals we have actual examples of real 3rd parties wanting to reuse the files, but we're not always able to clearly point them to the license terms. We don't even have an SGA for these files. So should we delete this directory as well? Of course, I speak of our website in /ooo-site. IMHO, it is not a problem so long as we don't include it in a release. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:41 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Is this to be based on the Symphony code? Dennis, we have Symphony code within IBM. Remember, we wrote it. Whatever code we check in is covered by signed ICLA's and CCLA's. That should address all reasonable concerns with regards to the provenance of the code. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 01:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 Here is my question.
Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I don't think the web site situation is an equivalent. I also don't think the choice of base for integration of Symphony features is relevant. I am concerned about the Symphony tree being in the public SVN and being an attractive nuisance. If it is not going to be morphed into something that can be worked with and integrated by the community of contributors, I recommend that it be gone. Feel free to make a proposal in a new thread, seek lazy consensus and act on it after 72 hours. You have karma. -Rob (Of course, I can remove it from any working copy that I possess, and I shall do that in switching to the new repository location.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 14:25 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Remember, we wrote it. Well, I suppose the notion of work for hire might provide some nuance to we. And the CCLA covers that side of it. I gather this means that IBM-associated contributors will make ALv2-covered contributions directly to the SVN and/or via patches and that is the provenance there is. That should safeguard the interests of the ASF. So what is the point of there being a Symphony portion of the SVN tree? Go back to the discussion on this list when we initially checked it in. We had a long discussion about what to do with that code, with the two main options being: 1) Make /symphony be the new trunk and merge the delta from AOO 3.4 into Symphony, or 2) Keep the current AOO trunk and merge selected features from Symphony into the AOO trunk. The decision ultimately was to do 2), what we refer to as the slow merge. Since we took that direction the /symphony tree has not undergone development. Its main value (in retrospect) was to support that decision making process. Of course, if we had decided to take the other approach then /symphony would become the new trunk and the usual clean up activities would have occurred on the way to releasing that trunk. Remember, IP Cleanup is not just about changing the headers. It is a longer process, culminating in a vote to accept the code base. Once a code base is accepted, we should be releasing it and doing the other kinds of maintenance functions -- security patches, etc. -- that a responsible PMC does for its releases. But I see zero volunteers stepping forward to maintain a second office suite in this project. So it makes no sense to me to spend time on a tree that we're never going to release. I now agree with a comment that you made in a previous discussion about this. I think it should be removed if it is never going to be IP-scrubbed. We have another direction in Subversion that is also odd. It has an eclectic set of licenses on its files. In some cases it includes files where we cannot clearly identify the license. Instead of hypotheticals we have actual examples of real 3rd parties wanting to reuse the files, but we're not always able to clearly point them to the license terms. We don't even have an SGA for these files. So should we delete this directory as well? Of course, I speak of our website in /ooo-site. IMHO, it is not a problem so long as we don't include it in a release. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:41 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Is this to be based on the Symphony code? Dennis, we have Symphony code within IBM. Remember, we wrote it. Whatever code we check in is covered by signed ICLA's and CCLA's. That should address all reasonable concerns with regards to the provenance of the code. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 01:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch for development? Hi Steve, this is good news. I would suggest that you give some details what do you expect to implement when. The integration of IAccessible2 is a bigger task and I don't see it all
Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: [top posting] hmmm...OK, I switched the svn for the project website to: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/site/trunk/ This is the only part I needed for now. I made some edits, and committed them...all good. But, they are NOT reflected on the old/actual staging site: http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/pmc-faqs.html Did you check in the changes via Subversion or via the CMS? If you do it via Subversion you need to click the update link to force the CMS to fetch the latest files from SVN. -Rob and I'm not sure where this is now. Maybe I need to do a re-published but, well, I don't know if a new web area needs to be established first. I'll comment on our existing ticket for this. The user portal, www.openoffice.org, should work without issue (maybe?). It already has a basically a top-level web area. On 11/26/2012 02:49 PM, janI wrote: Got it...I just thought you had removed incubator in all links. Jan. On 26 November 2012 23:46, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:44 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: I was thinking of http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ ooo-site/trunk/content/l10n The l10n branch is one I have created for development, and it contains only the source trunk at least yesterday, when I did an update, I am still working on svn switch to get my local copy updated. And it was merely the update that rob had made, that interested me. So my changes were simple. They were not renaming or moving files. I was editing the content of pages where they referred to locations in SVN. For example, we had a Subversion tutorial and another page that told visitors where to download the AOO source code from. Stuff like that. I don't think there were any L10n dependencies there. -Rob Jan I. On 26 November 2012 23:37, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Just go to http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ and browse around to confirm that everything you are interested in is there. (Are you thinking of the l10n under openoffice/branches ? It does appear that all of openoffice/ooo-site and openoffice/site are there.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: janI [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 13:48 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice #rob: did you include subdirs in ooo-site, so that l10n and other are taken care of ? mwiki might be a special problem, since there are loads of text, but I am more or less getting used to writing mwiki sql worms (right now I am juggling with 63.517 spam user accounts), so I can have a look at it after the user problem. Jan On 26 November 2012 20:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 26.11.2012 04:32, j...@apache.org wrote: Author: joes Date: Mon Nov 26 03:32:20 2012 New Revision: 1413471 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1413471view=rev Log: mv ooo to top-level Added: openoffice/ - copied from r1413470, incubator/ooo/ So our locations in the SVN repository were moved as discussed last week. Thank you, Joe! Here are the instructions to switch your checkouts to the new location: In case you are using SVN natively please change into the directory where your checked out AOO and run svn switch https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk there. If you are not working on trunk you have to replace trunk by the branches/bname (with bname being the branch name you are interested in), of course. In case you are using git-svn please change into the directory of your git-svn clone, open the file .git/config and find the section named [svn-remote svn] in there. In the url= line of that section please change the incubator/ooo part of the URL to openoffice. I've edited the websites in /site and /ooo-site to update around 7 files that had hard-coded references to the old SVN address. I didn't see any mentions on the Mwiki. -Rob Herbert -- MzK “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself?” -- Anais Nin
Re: Gallery extension from Symphony ressources
Am 11/26/2012 02:44 PM, schrieb Armin Le Grand: Hi List, I took a closer look at Symphony's checked in ressources concerning the gallery. There are quite some nice and useful additional themes there we (and our users) should benefit from. Thus, I propose (and volunteer :-) to integrate these to the trunk. Please have a look at a current Symphony version or look at the provides symphony sourcecode to get an impression (it's in main/extras/source/gallery). The added themes are: arrows bullets computers diagrams education environment finance gallery_sound gallery_system people sounds symbols transportation txtshapes The currently existing themes in trunk are: bullets gallery_sound gallery_system htmpexpo rulers sounds ww-back www-graf Where bullets, gallery_sound, gallery_system and sounds are double. I propose to just merge the contents. (gallery_sound and gallery_system are hidden, internal themes). For info: ww-back and www-graf are also hidden themes which are used in Writer's www export. I think these themes are useful for a wide variety of users and I will try to just merge them smoothly to have these available. All contents are in png format (not yet svg) with transparencies and offer quite some useful stuff. We should have them in that format for now, conversion to SVG is not realistic due to many contained gradients. For adding future themes I propose to use svg, but for now we should use what we have. Same is true for evtl. later add online data access for the gallery for clipart libraries (which support svg). But one step after the other... I'm currently inverstigating on the issue (wrote #121407# for it, see there) and will report how much size it would add to download packages. Suggestions welcome! Yeah, great idea. :-) Marcus
Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I think I've expressed my concerns. I have nothing to add. One follow-up question though: Previously you had offered to see if it was possible to get a permission letter from IBM to ASF allowing the project to adjust headers and notices to have them be under ALv2. Is that not going to happen? The headers are red herring. Remind yourself of how long it took to remove the Oracle copyright and the LGPL headers from /trunk. The SGA was submitted in June (or was it May?) 2011. But we didn't get code checked in until 2011-08-29, right? And the license header updates were done over a longer period of time, not completed until 2012-04-30. Did this prevent anyone from working with the code before 2012-04-30? Of course not. Did anyone raise any concerns? No. In fact we did almost the *entire AOO 3.4.0 work* in that time period. The headers had to be updated before we could release the code. But it did not prevent anyone from working with the code before the release. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 14:57 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 I don't think the web site situation is an equivalent. I also don't think the choice of base for integration of Symphony features is relevant. I am concerned about the Symphony tree being in the public SVN and being an attractive nuisance. If it is not going to be morphed into something that can be worked with and integrated by the community of contributors, I recommend that it be gone. (Of course, I can remove it from any working copy that I possess, and I shall do that in switching to the new repository location.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 14:25 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Remember, we wrote it. Well, I suppose the notion of work for hire might provide some nuance to we. And the CCLA covers that side of it. I gather this means that IBM-associated contributors will make ALv2-covered contributions directly to the SVN and/or via patches and that is the provenance there is. That should safeguard the interests of the ASF. So what is the point of there being a Symphony portion of the SVN tree? Go back to the discussion on this list when we initially checked it in. We had a long discussion about what to do with that code, with the two main options being: 1) Make /symphony be the new trunk and merge the delta from AOO 3.4 into Symphony, or 2) Keep the current AOO trunk and merge selected features from Symphony into the AOO trunk. The decision ultimately was to do 2), what we refer to as the slow merge. Since we took that direction the /symphony tree has not undergone development. Its main value (in retrospect) was to support that decision making process. Of course, if we had decided to take the other approach then /symphony would become the new trunk and the usual clean up activities would have occurred on the way to releasing that trunk. Remember, IP Cleanup is not just about changing the headers. It is a longer process, culminating in a vote to accept the code base. Once a code base is accepted, we should be releasing it and doing the other kinds of maintenance functions -- security patches, etc. -- that a responsible PMC does for its releases. But I see zero volunteers stepping forward to maintain a second office suite in this project. So it makes no sense to me to spend time on a tree that we're never going to release. I now agree with a comment that you made in a previous discussion about this. I think it should be removed if it is never going to be IP-scrubbed. We have another direction in Subversion that is also odd. It has an eclectic set of licenses on its files. In some cases it includes files where we cannot clearly identify the license. Instead of hypotheticals we have actual examples of real 3rd parties wanting to reuse the files, but we're not always able to clearly point them to the license terms. We don't even have an SGA for these files. So should we delete this directory as well? Of course, I speak of our website in /ooo-site. IMHO, it is not a problem so long as we don't include it in a release. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:41 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Is this to be based on the Symphony code? Dennis, we have Symphony code within IBM.
Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice
On 11/26/2012 03:19 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: [top posting] hmmm...OK, I switched the svn for the project website to: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/site/trunk/ This is the only part I needed for now. I made some edits, and committed them...all good. But, they are NOT reflected on the old/actual staging site: http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/pmc-faqs.html Did you check in the changes via Subversion or via the CMS? If you do it via Subversion you need to click the update link to force the CMS to fetch the latest files from SVN. I did it with subversion. But usually when I do this and commit, I can bring up the staging copy, and assuming the build is done, can see the changes on staging. I don't even use the update link. (???) Or alternatively. if I use Easy Publish, I use Diff to see the changes in staging before publishing. Maybe someone else can try to publish something to the new project web site location, and have different results. If so, please share what you did. -Rob and I'm not sure where this is now. Maybe I need to do a re-published but, well, I don't know if a new web area needs to be established first. I'll comment on our existing ticket for this. The user portal, www.openoffice.org, should work without issue (maybe?). It already has a basically a top-level web area. On 11/26/2012 02:49 PM, janI wrote: Got it...I just thought you had removed incubator in all links. Jan. On 26 November 2012 23:46, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:44 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: I was thinking of http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ ooo-site/trunk/content/l10n The l10n branch is one I have created for development, and it contains only the source trunk at least yesterday, when I did an update, I am still working on svn switch to get my local copy updated. And it was merely the update that rob had made, that interested me. So my changes were simple. They were not renaming or moving files. I was editing the content of pages where they referred to locations in SVN. For example, we had a Subversion tutorial and another page that told visitors where to download the AOO source code from. Stuff like that. I don't think there were any L10n dependencies there. -Rob Jan I. On 26 November 2012 23:37, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Just go to http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ and browse around to confirm that everything you are interested in is there. (Are you thinking of the l10n under openoffice/branches ? It does appear that all of openoffice/ooo-site and openoffice/site are there.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: janI [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 13:48 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Our SVN moved from incubator/ooo to openoffice #rob: did you include subdirs in ooo-site, so that l10n and other are taken care of ? mwiki might be a special problem, since there are loads of text, but I am more or less getting used to writing mwiki sql worms (right now I am juggling with 63.517 spam user accounts), so I can have a look at it after the user problem. Jan On 26 November 2012 20:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 26.11.2012 04:32, j...@apache.org wrote: Author: joes Date: Mon Nov 26 03:32:20 2012 New Revision: 1413471 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1413471view=rev Log: mv ooo to top-level Added: openoffice/ - copied from r1413470, incubator/ooo/ So our locations in the SVN repository were moved as discussed last week. Thank you, Joe! Here are the instructions to switch your checkouts to the new location: In case you are using SVN natively please change into the directory where your checked out AOO and run svn switch https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk there. If you are not working on trunk you have to replace trunk by the branches/bname (with bname being the branch name you are interested in), of course. In case you are using git-svn please change into the directory of your git-svn clone, open the file .git/config and find the section named [svn-remote svn] in there. In the url= line of that section please change the incubator/ooo part of the URL to openoffice. I've edited the websites in /site and /ooo-site to update around 7 files that had hard-coded references to the old SVN address. I didn't see any mentions on the Mwiki. -Rob Herbert -- MzK “How wrong is it for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself?” -- Anais Nin --
Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1
On 11/23/2012 8:14 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 17:00:54 +0100
jan iversen j...@apache.org wrote:
Good idea, that was basically what I meant...however even microsoft, does
provide a slim setup, that then downloads the needed packages.
There is a disadvantage to that: such an installation has to have on-line
access at install time. There are still many users who do not have on-line
access 24/7 at broadband speeds; they may rely for installation on a download
on a public library machine or a friend's machine and transfer the file to the
target computer by USB key, so a complete package (whether compiled for natice
language or as outlined above) would be useful to them,
This point comes up over and over again. We need to serve both groups,
but the solution should not force either group into a degraded install
process.
We can have a 'slim setup' that then loads resources from the same
location/media it came from.
This approach works for those who need local media due to bandwidth
constraints (CD/USB Key/File system)
It also works efficiently for broadband loading the bootstrap ('slim
setup') over the network, and then collecting additional resources as
needed.
If it is built correctly, this type of install would also facilitate
1-click installs without requiring the duplication of bits which is a
growing problem as we again add languages. If the bootstrap setup is
loaded with a configuration file, it could be set to load specific
language packs, dictionaries, and additional extensions. (The additional
files would either be downloaded over the network from the same network
location, or bundled on the same media in the same folder for a CD/USB
type install)
Let's stop arguing over which of the two scenarios our install will
support correctly, and agree that we need to support both scenarios
correctly.
Andrew
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Re: Gallery extension from Symphony ressources
2012/11/27 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de Am 11/26/2012 02:44 PM, schrieb Armin Le Grand: Hi List, I took a closer look at Symphony's checked in ressources concerning the gallery. There are quite some nice and useful additional themes there we (and our users) should benefit from. Thus, I propose (and volunteer :-) to integrate these to the trunk. Please have a look at a current Symphony version or look at the provides symphony sourcecode to get an impression (it's in main/extras/source/gallery). The added themes are: arrows bullets computers diagrams education environment finance gallery_sound gallery_system people sounds symbols transportation txtshapes The currently existing themes in trunk are: bullets gallery_sound gallery_system htmpexpo rulers sounds ww-back www-graf Where bullets, gallery_sound, gallery_system and sounds are double. I propose to just merge the contents. (gallery_sound and gallery_system are hidden, internal themes). For info: ww-back and www-graf are also hidden themes which are used in Writer's www export. I think these themes are useful for a wide variety of users and I will try to just merge them smoothly to have these available. All contents are in png format (not yet svg) with transparencies and offer quite some useful stuff. We should have them in that format for now, conversion to SVG is not realistic due to many contained gradients. For adding future themes I propose to use svg, but for now we should use what we have. Same is true for evtl. later add online data access for the gallery for clipart libraries (which support svg). But one step after the other... I'm currently inverstigating on the issue (wrote #121407# for it, see there) and will report how much size it would add to download packages. Suggestions welcome! Yeah, great idea. :-) +1. Let's add those themes in! Thanks, Armin! - Shenfeng (Simon) Marcus
RE: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
I was only talking about cleaning up my working copies from the SVN. I have no desire to touch Symphony on the SVN (and I believe the incubator SVN copy is now read-only). - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 15:18 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I don't think the web site situation is an equivalent. I also don't think the choice of base for integration of Symphony features is relevant. I am concerned about the Symphony tree being in the public SVN and being an attractive nuisance. If it is not going to be morphed into something that can be worked with and integrated by the community of contributors, I recommend that it be gone. Feel free to make a proposal in a new thread, seek lazy consensus and act on it after 72 hours. You have karma. -Rob (Of course, I can remove it from any working copy that I possess, and I shall do that in switching to the new repository location.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 14:25 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Remember, we wrote it. Well, I suppose the notion of work for hire might provide some nuance to we. And the CCLA covers that side of it. I gather this means that IBM-associated contributors will make ALv2-covered contributions directly to the SVN and/or via patches and that is the provenance there is. That should safeguard the interests of the ASF. So what is the point of there being a Symphony portion of the SVN tree? Go back to the discussion on this list when we initially checked it in. We had a long discussion about what to do with that code, with the two main options being: 1) Make /symphony be the new trunk and merge the delta from AOO 3.4 into Symphony, or 2) Keep the current AOO trunk and merge selected features from Symphony into the AOO trunk. The decision ultimately was to do 2), what we refer to as the slow merge. Since we took that direction the /symphony tree has not undergone development. Its main value (in retrospect) was to support that decision making process. Of course, if we had decided to take the other approach then /symphony would become the new trunk and the usual clean up activities would have occurred on the way to releasing that trunk. Remember, IP Cleanup is not just about changing the headers. It is a longer process, culminating in a vote to accept the code base. Once a code base is accepted, we should be releasing it and doing the other kinds of maintenance functions -- security patches, etc. -- that a responsible PMC does for its releases. But I see zero volunteers stepping forward to maintain a second office suite in this project. So it makes no sense to me to spend time on a tree that we're never going to release. I now agree with a comment that you made in a previous discussion about this. I think it should be removed if it is never going to be IP-scrubbed. We have another direction in Subversion that is also odd. It has an eclectic set of licenses on its files. In some cases it includes files where we cannot clearly identify the license. Instead of hypotheticals we have actual examples of real 3rd parties wanting to reuse the files, but we're not always able to clearly point them to the license terms. We don't even have an SGA for these files. So should we delete this directory as well? Of course, I speak of our website in /ooo-site. IMHO, it is not a problem so long as we don't include it in a release. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:41 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Is this to be based on the Symphony code? Dennis, we have Symphony code within IBM. Remember, we wrote it. Whatever code we check in is covered by signed ICLA's and CCLA's. That should address all reasonable concerns with regards to the provenance of the code. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 01:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be
Re: Please add me to The OpenOffice.org Documentation Project list
Welcome Mark! Are you interested in contributing to OpenOffice documentation? Can you please introduce yourself briefly or what areas you are interested in? I'm from development...I think we need people on documentation. Can someone here explain if we have a documentation project? if no, we may need to set up at least one wiki page to collaborate the work? Helen 2012/11/27 Mark Roest marklro...@gmail.com Please add me to The OpenOffice.org Documentation Project list Regards, Mark Roest
Re: Could anybody who has MS word 97 help to verify bug 35763?
There are two scenarios should be covered while you testing this defect. 1. Import: a. Create sample document which contains color underling with Word 97 b. Open it in AOO c. Verify if the color underling shows correctly. 2. Export: a. Create sample document which contains color underling with AOO b. Open it in Word 97. c. Verify if the color underling shows correctly. If the verify point of above two scenarios are correctly, then you can change defect status to VERIFIED. On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Ji Yan yanji...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, Have you verify this bug? Has it been fixed already? I do have Office 97. But what part needs to be verified? Is there a document I need to load? Do you have the test document? -Rob On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Damjan Jovanovic damjan@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:25 AM, lou ql louqin...@gmail.com wrote: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=35763 It's about the import/export of underling color, I have verified with MS word 2003, but I don't have MS word 97, could anybody help with this? Thanks. -- Regards, Lou QingLe On a related note, is there any possibility of setting up one or more servers with (as much as possible) every possible version of MS office ever made, and offering VNC access to them, so it can help developers test compatibility issues without having their own MS office copy? I doubt the Microsoft EULA would allow this. But one thing Microsoft has done is offer a free subscription to MSDN for Apache Committers. That allows us to download ISO images for previous versions of Windows and Office for testing purposes. This plus VirtualBox is a good solution for a local machine. -Rob Regards Damjan Jovanovic -- Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji -- Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji
Re: Edit and create new pages in wiki.openoffice.org
On 11/26/2012 08:59 PM, Salva wrote: Hello User: Salva Mail: sa...@open-office.es ID user: 50644 I am an active member of the wiki I'm currently editing the pages for StarBasic in Spanish http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Manuales/GuiaAOO/TemasAvanzados/Macros/StarBasic I can not add new pages Please update my publishing rights Thanks I am replying, only to say that I looked around, and it is not obvious that an administrator, I don't see how to set this to be allowed So, how is this now handled? -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Remember, we wrote it. Well, I suppose the notion of work for hire might provide some nuance to we. I gather this means that IBM-associated contributors will make ALv2-covered contributions directly to the SVN and/or via patches and that is the provenance there is. That should safeguard the interests of the ASF. So what is the point of there being a Symphony portion of the SVN tree? The Symphony portion is a good reference if a contributor want to fix a defect already been fixed in Symphony. The gallery, art works are also valuable and can be integrated into AOO. It save contributors from IBM a lot of effort on additional legal process. Back to a couple of years ago, we need went through internal legal process every time we want to contributed something to OpenOffice.org. I now agree with a comment that you made in a previous discussion about this. I think it should be removed if it is never going to be IP-scrubbed. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:41 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Is this to be based on the Symphony code? Dennis, we have Symphony code within IBM. Remember, we wrote it. Whatever code we check in is covered by signed ICLA's and CCLA's. That should address all reasonable concerns with regards to the provenance of the code. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Steve Yin [mailto:steve.yin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 01:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 Thanks for both of your suggestions. The time table will be provided later. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/26/12 6:59 AM, Steve Yin wrote: Hi, I propose to integrate IAccessible2 as an accessibility feature for AOO 4.0. A wiki for the effort estimation can be found here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 Here is my question. Should I create a feature in AOO Bugzilla and a branch for development? Hi Steve, this is good news. I would suggest that you give some details what do you expect to implement when. The integration of IAccessible2 is a bigger task and I don't see it all integrated in the next 4 month or so. Creating a new feature task in bugzilla would be the normal procedure and a new branch is a must from my perspective for this huge piece of work. Good to see progress on this important integration. Juergen -- Best Regards, Steve Yin -- Regards Yong Lin Ma
Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0
On 11/27/12 4:12 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I was only talking about cleaning up my working copies from the SVN. I have no desire to touch Symphony on the SVN (and I believe the incubator SVN copy is now read-only). perfect, means you are save now. For all other people who are interested in improving the code or want to help merging fixes/features from the Symphony code into trunk. Feel free to analyze the code to understand it, extract a patch or whatever and when you run into a problem with a license header come back on the dev list and we will help you to solve this problem. The license header shouldn't prevent anybody from doing some real work. As we have pointed out now several times we have no plans to release this code and it is only for reference and to cherry pick specific features, fixes etc. from the code and merge it into trunk. The reason is quite simple, we don't want to waste our time with stupid editing work that is completely useless. We have really enough other things to do. When we think that there is nothing more in the Symphony tree that is worth to merge we can and will remove the code. We can do that immediately when people believe it is a real problem. But please let us move forward with useful and important work to improve our product. And please stop this fruitless discussion. If there are real concerns about the code in SVN start a new thread as Rob mentioned and seek lazy consensus for the removal. Just my personal opinion Juergen - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 15:18 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I don't think the web site situation is an equivalent. I also don't think the choice of base for integration of Symphony features is relevant. I am concerned about the Symphony tree being in the public SVN and being an attractive nuisance. If it is not going to be morphed into something that can be worked with and integrated by the community of contributors, I recommend that it be gone. Feel free to make a proposal in a new thread, seek lazy consensus and act on it after 72 hours. You have karma. -Rob (Of course, I can remove it from any working copy that I possess, and I shall do that in switching to the new repository location.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 14:25 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: IAccessible2 integration for AOO 4.0 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Remember, we wrote it. Well, I suppose the notion of work for hire might provide some nuance to we. And the CCLA covers that side of it. I gather this means that IBM-associated contributors will make ALv2-covered contributions directly to the SVN and/or via patches and that is the provenance there is. That should safeguard the interests of the ASF. So what is the point of there being a Symphony portion of the SVN tree? Go back to the discussion on this list when we initially checked it in. We had a long discussion about what to do with that code, with the two main options being: 1) Make /symphony be the new trunk and merge the delta from AOO 3.4 into Symphony, or 2) Keep the current AOO trunk and merge selected features from Symphony into the AOO trunk. The decision ultimately was to do 2), what we refer to as the slow merge. Since we took that direction the /symphony tree has not undergone development. Its main value (in retrospect) was to support that decision making process. Of course, if we had decided to take the other approach then /symphony would become the new trunk and the usual clean up activities would have occurred on the way to releasing that trunk. Remember, IP Cleanup is not just about changing the headers. It is a longer process, culminating in a vote to accept the code base. Once a code base is accepted, we should be releasing it and doing the other kinds of maintenance functions -- security patches, etc. -- that a responsible PMC does for its releases. But I see zero volunteers stepping forward to maintain a second office suite in this project. So it makes no sense to me to spend time on a tree that we're never going to release. I now agree with a comment that you made in a previous discussion about this. I think it should be removed if it is never going to be IP-scrubbed. We have another direction in Subversion that is also odd. It has an eclectic set of licenses on its files. In some cases it includes files where we cannot clearly identify the license. Instead of hypotheticals we have actual examples of real 3rd parties wanting to reuse the files, but we're not always able to clearly point them to the license terms. We
Introduction - NEW volunteer
Salutations Quick profile: * started using StarOffice 4.x * have been using OO regularly then exclusively since * hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees * major in finance, minor in computers * Financial Manager for 8 years * IT Services Manager for 8 years * currently freelance * not a programmer * located in Toronto Canada [at least for now] * only fluent in English * experienced with not for profit organizations * open to suggestions where\how to jump in L -- Larry Sadler 416.354.2952
