Re: Publish Extension (and Extensions Site Administrator Missing?)
Andrea Pescetti on 2018/01/09 16:26 said: > imacat wrote: >> Can anybody help me publish my extension? > >> https://extensions.openoffice.org/project/pokemon-go-iv-calculator > > This (as well as removing spam comments) can be done by any site > moderator; we have several PMC members with these privileges, me > included. I've republished your extension. And I encourage people to > check it out for fun! Oh. Thanks so much. ^_^ It is published now. > For system administration and for more complex work you'll need the > SourceForge staff instead. I'm not aware of a dedicated contact address, > but they monitor this list and reporting to this list worked well so far. I mean, when I publish my extension, the web page suggested me to write to aooad...@extensions.openoffice.org. But aooad...@extensions.openoffice.org bounced my mail. ^^; The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more at https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [extensions.openoffice.org 216.34.181.95: generic::failed_precondition: connect error (0): error] So maybe aooad...@extensions.openoffice.org is the wrong contact address? Or maybe extensions.openoffice.org was not receiving mails (TCP 25) now? -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Publish Extension (and Extensions Site Administrator Missing?)
Dear all, I would like to know who is taking care of extensions.openoffice.org now? I mistakenly unpublish my extension, and want to publish it again, but I cannot contact the extension administrator. Can anybody help me publish my extension? Thank you very much. My extension: Pokémon GO IV Calculator https://extensions.openoffice.org/project/pokemon-go-iv-calculator -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Community in Mexico City
Alexandro Colorado on 2017/06/22 12:07 said: > aah would have been great to meet you unfortunately (fortunately) I live in > Cancun and is pretty far from Mexico City. Good luck and dont drink the > water :D Dear Alexandro, We were planning to go to Cancun once, but in the end we dropped it because we cannot catch the time line. It would be nice to meet you. We will take great care of the water. Dave Fisher on 2017/06/22 13:19 said: > Hi imacat, > It’s been awhile. I hope you are well. > For Apache wide community questions try this mailing list - d...@community.apache.org Dear Dave, Thank you for reminding me. I cannot remember why I added marketing@ to the recipients list. Maybe just out of mind for a second. Sorry and thanks. F C. Costero on 2017/06/22 23:54 said: > I just copied imacat's message to the Spanish forum: > https://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39=13006#p57499 Dear Francis, Thank you. That is really helpful. I have trouble with Spanish myself. ^^; -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Community in Mexico City
Dear all, I'll travel to Mexico from Taiwan on 7/1-10, and stay in Mexico City from 7/5-10. My main purpose is to attend to WikiWomen Camp 2017 in Mexico City, but I would also like to meet the local OpenOffice/ASF/FOSS community in Mexico City if possible. Is there any community meetup in Mexico City during 7/5-10? Is there anyone that I can contact with? Thank you very much in advance. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Who goes to the FOSDEM
Andrea Pescetti on 2016/12/13 17:26 said: > imacat wrote: >> I would like to ask when the Open Document Editors devroom will >> announce the result of CFP? > > The schedule is not online yet, but your talk was accepted. Contact me > off-list if you need further details. Thank you. I'm going and I'm booking the tickets now. ^_*' -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Who goes to the FOSDEM
I'm not sure on this since I do not know whether my submit talks are accepted. I would like to ask when the Open Document Editors devroom will announce the result of CFP? The announced time line (12/11) has passed, and I do not see the result. I *REALLY* need to book the flight soon. The cost of the flight gets 200USD more over the last week. Does anyone here know the time line now? Thank you very much! Matthias Seidel on 2016/12/12 18:20 said: > I just booked my flight from Hamburg to Brussels... > I will be there on Saturday morning. > > Hope to see all of you! ;-) > > regards, Matthias > > > Am 02.12.2016 um 17:10 schrieb Peter Kovacs: >> Hello all, >> >> I just decided that I will visit FOSDEM. >> I would love to meet some people from the List. :-) >> >> All the best >> Peter >> >> >> On 02.12.2016 07:22, Raphael Bircher wrote: >>> Hi Michael >>> >>> >>> Am 12/2/2016 um 6:56 AM schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann: >>>> Hi Raphael, >>>> >>>> Mechtilde and I will go to FOSDEM 2017 to become the AOO part of the >>>> common Apache booth. Michaela will come with us. >>> I expected you :-) If there is room, I well spand some time at the >>> stand too. >>> >>> Have a nice day >>> Raphael >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > > -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)
t;>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2016-09-02 09:02 (-0400), Jorg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> never we forget how members of OpenOffice (for example, >> Rob Weir) >>>>>>> were insulted by TDF representatives. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's important, in all of this conversation, to keep the >> interests of >>>>>> the *users* first. This project is about producing >> software for the >>>>>> public good, not about winning some contest, or nursing our hurt >>>>>> feelings. We owe it to the users to forgive and forget actual and >>>>>> perceived insults, and move on with our lives. >> Otherwise, what the >>>>>> heck are we doing here? >>>> >>>> >> - >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [VOTE] Release 4.1.2-RC3 as OpenOffice 4.1.2
+1 Approve Andrea Pescetti 於 2015年10月26日 08:06 寫道: > On 23/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> So please VOTE on releasing RC3 (as defined above) as OpenOffice 4.1.2: >> [ ] +1 Approve >> [ ] 0 Abstain >> [ ] -1 Disapprove, with explanation > > +1 Approve > > Verified signatures, checksums, licenses, built from scratch on Linux, > tested Italian localization, tested bugfixes and ordinary usage. No > blockers found. > > Andrea. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Sourceforge
(I did not see any reason this discussion should go private, so I moved it to public.) As far as I read, the GIMP team had never opt-in distributing adwares/malwares. They did agree to share SF.net's ad profit, but not bundling adwares/malwares with their installers. And SF.net did hijacked GIMP for Windows without authors' consent. Goodbye, SourceForge. https://helb.github.io/goodbye-sourceforge/ Anatomy of SourceForge/GIMP controversy (from GIMP team) http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/anatomy-of-sourceforge-gimp-controversy What happened to Sourceforge? (from VLC developer) https://blog.l0cal.com/2015/06/02/what-happened-to-sourceforge/ I looked into which projects SF.net hijacked, and surprisingly found Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Firefox, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Nmap, The R-project. Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Nmap, R http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor3/profile/ GIMP, VLC http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/profile/ Firefox, MySQL, PostgreSQL http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor/profile/ So who's next? Apache OpenOffice? When will there be a new malware/adware-enabled Apache OpenOfffice installer? I suppose we should move from SF.net to a trustworthy mirror solution. Roberto Galoppini on 2015/06/02 04:50 said: Hi again Louis, 2015-06-01 21:47 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com: Hi Roberto, See these: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/ It's not up-to-date, GIMP (and every other mirror project) has been unbundled few days ago. Just as I stated above. Also if you follow dev@ you know that by the facts we remove unwanted or misleading ads in hours. http://danluu.com/slashdot-sourceforge/ It seems like this is not up-to-date too, as far as I know Slashdot editor after the week-end catched up with everything, included this. Of course there is as usual space for conspirancy theories, but you understand I can't help with that. Unless you have something else I think I've covered everything, if you or someone else has more questions I'll be happy to answer. Roberto I don’t think that seeing this as a fuss and deprecating it as unimportant or trivial (in some way) either because it’s a storm in a teacup or old news or misinterpreted news is useful to us or to SF. louis On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:31, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: Louis, I'm pretty sure I've read most of it, not sure to which one you're referring to. But yes, I'm pretty sure that was done with only (very) few SourceForge abandoned project for just some days. Roberto 2015-06-01 21:25 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com: Roberto, Surely you have also gone over the US press and now also reddit discussions? In which it seems as if SF is not always waiting for abandonment? louis On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:23, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: Just a quick clarification on the topic. Not long time ago Simon himself wrote an article saying good things of the DevShare program, see http://www.infoworld.com/article/2610419/open-source-software/retro-repo-sourceforge-learns-new-tricks.html Having said that, recently SourceForge tested the program on few SourceForge projects that were abandoned by the original developers and kept updated by our editorial team or bots. Given the community reactions the company decided to quit such tests for good. A company statement clarifying it further will be made public soon, beyond the fuss nothing has really changed as of now. Roberto 2015-06-01 20:40 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com: On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Just a FYI: https://twitter.com/webmink/status/605422600970510338 I fully expect that somehow this will be used as ammunition against AOO, due to our reliance on them as a major download partner. It sounds like they are recycling old news or something. The whole opt-in advertising brouhaha occurred a few years ago, We did not opt-in, so it was not an issue for us. Sounds like GIMP first opted-in, then opted-out, but it is not clear whether as a community they spoke with one voice and whether it was clear to SF whose voice represented the community. Apache projects have a governance model and a decision making process that makes that kind of misunderstanding less likely. -Rob -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: forum.opnoffice.org
Rory O'Farrell on 2015/04/02 20:11 said: Forum site still running very slowly. It seems so. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Office Application BoF @ OSTC, Beijing 2015/3/28
Dear Peter, Peter Junge on 2015/03/14 15:50 said: Hi Imacat, thanks a lot for proposing the Office Apps BoF. You can certainly count me in. Is the venue and time finally confirmed yet? I would also like to announce the BoF on the Beijing LUG website because some people who are or were involved in AOO, LO, OOo and RedOffice are frequently checking it. Yes, it's confirmed. The time is 12:20-13:40 and the venue is the speaker's lunch room. The staff in OSTC will announce it in the conference, too. Ross shall join us. Please help us announce it at BLUG and encourage BLUG members to come. Many thanks. ^_^ /Peter On 12/03/15 19:16, imacat wrote: Dear all, Is there anybody that will attend to OSTC 2015, Beijing at the end of this month (3/28)? I would like to call for a BoF on Office Application at the noon of OSTC. We may have some talks and know each other, and have some small discussion about the development of OpenOffice in the future. Ross Gardler, one of the board of directors of ASF, will join us in the event. And we are still asking for more guests, maybe from MS OOXML. So if you are interested in the development of OpenOffice, or simply want to know more friends in the community, please reply and let us know so we can arrange the venue. ^_^ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Office Application BoF @ OSTC, Beijing 2015/3/28
Dear all, Is there anybody that will attend to OSTC 2015, Beijing at the end of this month (3/28)? I would like to call for a BoF on Office Application at the noon of OSTC. We may have some talks and know each other, and have some small discussion about the development of OpenOffice in the future. Ross Gardler, one of the board of directors of ASF, will join us in the event. And we are still asking for more guests, maybe from MS OOXML. So if you are interested in the development of OpenOffice, or simply want to know more friends in the community, please reply and let us know so we can arrange the venue. ^_^ -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Office Application BoF @ OSTC, Beijing 2015/3/28
Thanks. And because the venue is quite small (for about 10 people), please answer this mail if you will join us, so that I can estimate the number of attendees and maybe seek for a larger venue. jan i on 2015/03/12 19:21 said: On 12 March 2015 at 12:16, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: Dear all, Is there anybody that will attend to OSTC 2015, Beijing at the end of this month (3/28)? I would like to call for a BoF on Office Application at the noon of OSTC. We may have some talks and know each other, and have some small discussion about the development of OpenOffice in the future. Ross Gardler, one of the board of directors of ASF, will join us in the event. And we are still asking for more guests, maybe from MS OOXML. So if you are interested in the development of OpenOffice, or simply want to know more friends in the community, please reply and let us know so we can arrange the venue. ^_^ HI Imacat A good imitative, I will not be present, but I wish you all the best in arranging the BoF, and hope you all will have some productive hours together. rgds jan I. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://www.wofoss.org/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [RELEASE]: RC3 available
On 2014/04/16 21:28, Jürgen Schmidt said: On 4/15/14 4:14 PM, imacat wrote: On 2014/04/14 16:21, Jürgen Schmidt said: the RC3 build (rev. 1586584) is uploading and most of the files are already available. Only 32 bit language packs for Linux are currently missing. I plan to start a vote later today but would like to invite everybody to test the new build already ... https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds I found that I cannot digitally sign my documents with 4.1 as 4.0 anymore. Is it a planned change, or a bug? can you provide more information how exactly you did it in 4.0? I am not very familiar with document signing and haven't signed a document before. The information I found is not clear to me and the behaviour is always the same in 4.0, 4.0.1 and 4.1 at least on Mac. I have a self signed cert created ... On Linux, OpenOffice document signature is done via the Mozilla firefox certificate store. On Windows, it is done via the Windows certificate store. I suppose the procedure is as follows: 1. Get/create a personal X.509 key/certificate with e-mail as the common name. Self-signed personal key/certificates should be OK. 2. Import it into the Mozilla firefox certificate store or Windows certificate store. 3. Close OpenOffice, including the quick run icon, if it is currently running. Restart it. 4. Save some document with something. 5. Sign the document from [File]=[Digital Signature]. Before 4.0, the personal key/certificate in the Mozilla certificate store will be shown in [File]=[Digital Signature]. On 4.1, this is missing. Digital signature is an important part to OpenOffice macro security and document integrity. If this is unintended, we will have to do something to fix it. Does anybody know more about document signing and how it is intended to work? Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [RELEASE]: RC3 available
On 2014/04/16 23:58, Rob Weir said: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:31 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2014/04/16 21:28, Jürgen Schmidt said: On 4/15/14 4:14 PM, imacat wrote: On 2014/04/14 16:21, Jürgen Schmidt said: the RC3 build (rev. 1586584) is uploading and most of the files are already available. Only 32 bit language packs for Linux are currently missing. I plan to start a vote later today but would like to invite everybody to test the new build already ... https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds I found that I cannot digitally sign my documents with 4.1 as 4.0 anymore. Is it a planned change, or a bug? can you provide more information how exactly you did it in 4.0? I am not very familiar with document signing and haven't signed a document before. The information I found is not clear to me and the behaviour is always the same in 4.0, 4.0.1 and 4.1 at least on Mac. I have a self signed cert created ... On Linux, OpenOffice document signature is done via the Mozilla firefox certificate store. On Windows, it is done via the Windows certificate store. I suppose the procedure is as follows: 1. Get/create a personal X.509 key/certificate with e-mail as the common name. Self-signed personal key/certificates should be OK. 2. Import it into the Mozilla firefox certificate store or Windows certificate store. 3. Close OpenOffice, including the quick run icon, if it is currently running. Restart it. 4. Save some document with something. 5. Sign the document from [File]=[Digital Signature]. Before 4.0, the personal key/certificate in the Mozilla certificate store will be shown in [File]=[Digital Signature]. On 4.1, this is missing. Digital signature is an important part to OpenOffice macro security and document integrity. If this is unintended, we will have to do something to fix it. So what happens to a document that was signed with AOO 4.0.1? Can you read it in AOO 4.1? Can you verify the signature? Same for a signed macro? I understand Juergen's point on the removal of Mozilla library. But I'm not sure if we can take this lightly. Documents that were digitally signed can still be opened and edited, but their signatures cannot be verified, and they cannot be signed again once they are modified. Document macros that were digitally signed can still work if their signers were confirmed before. But these macros will not work for the first time on newer installations unless their users change their security method. Newer document macros cannot be signed anymore, and the users have to change their security method. I do not know if this is serious or not. Sorry I found this problem too late. I think it is important to know whether AOO 4.1 fails safe with signed macros if it is unable to verify the signature. If a user has set security to allow only execution of signed macros and AOO 4.1 permits them to be executed without being able to verify the signature, then we have a much more serious problem. I'm not saying that this problem exists, but we should check carefully to make sure it is not a problem. -Rob Does anybody know more about document signing and how it is intended to work? Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [RELEASE]: RC3 available
On 2014/04/17 07:04, Andrea Pescetti said: Juergen Schmidt wrote: Am Mittwoch, 16. April 2014 um 19:03 schrieb imacat: Sorry I found this problem too late. well it is indeed unfortunately but shows also that this feature is not very often used. It seems at least so. It seems rather serious. I expect that ordinary private users are not affected so much, but corporate or institutional users may be. One thing we could do is to call for specific testing on mailing lists, so that these power users can compare 4.0.1 and 4.1.0-RC3 in their concrete experience on Linux/Mac. But we'll need the snapshots to be reachable again (due to the already discussed infra problems) for this. It's true that removal of Mozilla libraries was discussed and approved, but the side effects at the time were believed to be almost irrelevant with respect to this newly found one. And thanks Imacat for reporting this... better late than after release! Shall we capture it in Bugzilla with your instructions? Sure! I cannot log on to bugzilla now, still investigating. P.S. To sign the macros: Start the Basic IDE, navigate to the document macro, and select [File]-[Digital signature]. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC)
On 2014/04/05 05:40, Kay Schenk said: On 04/04/2014 09:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Andre Fischer wrote: Another problem came up that looks serious enough so that I would like to cancel this vote, if nobody objects. It is a clear release blocker. I agree that a second Release Candidate should be prepared. We can then do the right steps for fixing the process, but the thing we are voting on is clearly not ready for release based on what you write. +1 for the cancellation. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org Should we send out a [CANCEL][VOTE] notice just so things don't get confusing and maybe reference Andre's message. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC
Traditional Chinese not found yet. Should I wait for a while? On 2014/04/02 21:16, Jürgen Schmidt said: Hi, FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!! Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1 release. We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix some further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a first RC based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot of time in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS and Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is still ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and the release relevant bits are the source release. The RC builds can be found as always under https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going into this release can be found under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html. I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the fixed issues. Especially the issues related to translation updates/fixes should be verified by native speakers. A related RAT scan can be found under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the languages we have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for private use only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the first time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to test the functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets are prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the future as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO 4.0.1 (en-US) on my Windows laptop with the msp to AOO 4.1 ;-) I plan to start a vote for this RC later today and let it run until Sunday night, means enough time to test and evaluate the bits careful. Linux binaries will be available tomorrow latest. We have not fixed and integrated all requested showstoppers because they were not all showstoppers from my perspective and we should take into account that we have limited resources in the project able to fix issues. We focused on issues that are obviously showstoppers and on those who are relevant for most of our users. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Meet-up Calender and Map (Was: Re: Document Freedom Day 2014 @Taiwan)
Thanks Andrea, On 2014/03/16 19:40, Andrea Pescetti said: On 14/03/2014 imacat wrote: We are holding the Document Freedom Day 2014 at Taiwan, on 2014/3/26(Wed). Thanks for sharing. Indeed, there will be multiple events and campaigns linked to the Document Freedom Day http://documentfreedom.org so it would make sense to put on our homepage a special logo for that week (at least 26-29 March). Do we have one? You mean like this? Sorry I'm not good at graphing. You are welcome to improve from mine. https://people.apache.org/~imacat/dfd2014/dfd2014-aoo.png https://people.apache.org/~imacat/dfd2014/dfd2014.png I'm also thinking that, if we have a event calendar (and an event map), we could share our local events on the calendar so that everyone can join the local meet-up whenever she travel to somewhere. This idea came from the Python community, where they have a meet-up event calendar so that http://python.meetup.com/ I shall forward this to marketing@. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Document Freedom Day 2014 @Taiwan
Dear all, We are holding the Document Freedom Day 2014 at Taiwan, on 2014/3/26(Wed). There will be two DFD 2014 meetings in Taiwan: * Taipei: 2014/3/23(Wed) 18:30 at WaWa Book 2nd Floor http://imacat.kktix.cc/events/dfd2014 2F., No.3, Sec. 2, Bade Rd., Da’an Dist., Taipei City, Taiwan imacat will be sharing from doc, docx to odt and GoogleDocs. We'll also share the latest development of OpenOffice 4.1 and LibreOffice 4.2.1. * Hualian: 2014/3/23(Wed) 19:30 at Yuri Suangan Caf'e https://www.facebook.com/events/597139773708958/ Please come to join us if you are at Taiwan at that time. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Media Wiki Proxy Error
On 2013/11/13 16:20, janI said: On 13 November 2013 09:07, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/11/13 Graham Lauder y...@apache.org I'm having issues editing the Media wiki, I keep getting a 502 error. Everything works up 'til the submit process. Error as follows: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request POST /w/index.php. Reason: Error reading from remote server I met the same issue when editing cwiki today. Tried several times, and the last try worked... I did not see the same error. Which page are you editing? - Shenfeng (Simon) Strangely, it was actually working, I would do save page, the error would come up, but when I went back to the page in browser history and refreshed the page the save had worked. The error is still coming up which is bloody annoying but I'm getting stuff done OK, just taking longer than it should. I just had the same effect on wiki.o.o the page get saved ok, but when returning http://wiki.o.o is called which leads to a proxy error. It is part of the cleanup that (as far as I know) is outstanding on wiki/forum after the change to https: I dont think there is a relation to cwiki, that runs in a different setup. rgds jan I. Cheers GL Does this need an infra@ post or a bugzilla issue? Cheers GL -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: call for help to test AOO www and AOO wiki (certificates for *.o.o)
Dear Jan, I notice that there are still of our web sites that may need SSL certificates, that is, extensions.openoffice.org and templates.openoffice.org. But I have no privilege on these two sites. Could these two sites be updated to use HTTPS, too? Thanks. On 2013/11/01 04:44, Kay Schenk said: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Joe/JanIV/Mark, THANKS for getting the SSL certificate to work. We really, really needed this for the wiki and forums! Given the scope of the conversion of internal relative links. I think it is reasonable to expect that the project will not be in a hurry to start rushing in to convert 100,000 links without a plan. Hey AOO Devs: I have the experience of touching all of these html files when we ported them. I did do url rewrites and we have scripting to handle these cases! See ooo-site/trunk/tools/ - http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/tools/ Specifically the files urlrewrite.sh and urlrewrite.sed I have accumulated information about remaining links using the form http:// *.openoffice.org/ and https://*.openoffice.org/ Look for more this week before a sledgehammer change over the weekend. This will be with a new subject. Regards, Dave OK -- and thanks for taking this on. I had TOTALLY forgotten about tools. Working locally on a full checkout of ooo-site: http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html#how-to-do-website-development-locally-for-technical-users (1) urlrewrite.sed needs the additional rules. (2) To convert: $ cd ooo-site/trunk/tools $ ./urlrewrite.sh . # there is a dot at the end - please use it. (3) Do a local build. (4) Commit the massive changes. Voila! If the project wants to define the additional url rewrites then I will find cycles this weekend, or I can guide someone else. Regards, Dave On Oct 26, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Joseph Schaefer wrote: I don't think there are any plans to change the dual http/https nature of the site, even in the worst case scenario of redirecting everything to https, the old links will still resolve. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: No. Ideally urls local to the site use relative addressing so it will work properly when viewed over http or https. The reason you don't want hard coded http urls on the site is because https browsers will warn the user about fetching insecure resources. OK. So long as external, incoming http:// URL's will still resolve. -Rob Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:54:59PM +0200, janI wrote: Hi. www.openoffice.org now accept both http: and https: as announced earlier. We have however seen that e.g. product.css contain image tag with http://xxx. All references must be relative (without http: and https:). I hope the web admins can do make the needed changes. There are 26,349 matches of http://www.openoffice.org/; in ooo-site. We *are not* going to change to a system that requires that links to www.openoffice.org are all https. I hope that is not what is being suggested. Remember, we have 10's of thousands of *external* links to our website that we do control and cannot change. Please someone, tell me that this is not what is being suggested here. -Rob Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc
Re: call for help to test AOO www and AOO wiki (certificates for *.o.o)
Thanks for taking care of this. People are asking this on Wiki and forum (and even WWW) for long. And I know a wild card certificate is very costly. On 2013/10/27 16:05, janI said: On 27 October 2013 02:58, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:30:06PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:54:59PM +0200, janI wrote: Hi. www.openoffice.org now accept both http: and https: as announced earlier. We have however seen that e.g. product.css contain image tag with http://xxx. All references must be relative (without http: and https:). I hope the web admins can do make the needed changes. There are 26,349 matches of http://www.openoffice.org/; in ooo-site. We *are not* going to change to a system that requires that links to www.openoffice.org are all https. I hope that is not what is being suggested. Remember, we have 10's of thousands of *external* links to our website that we do control and cannot change. Please someone, tell me that this is not what is being suggested here. No its not, as I wrote in the part you quote, www.openoffice.org will continue to have https: but also https: as pr request from the project. But if I might remind you sent a mail to infra, asking why https: was not implemented for www.openoffice.org, which I and pctony responded to. And if you look at INFRA-6608, you will see a comment from andrea 3 August: And we will want to use it, even though there is no authentication there, for http(s)://www.openoffice.org (this is mainly because we receive a steady, even if low, amount of complaints from users who cannot browse our main site on HTTPS). We infra have done exactly as the project asked us to do according to INFRA-6608, and that is not correct ?? I actually never understood why https: was wanted on www.openoffice.org, but it was not a problem to do it, so it was done. today is a day where I am less proud of being AOO-PMC. We (AOO) have been after infra to get a certificate and get it implemented. Yesterday mark took a big chunk of time and with some help from me, got it implemented. I think infra should have a thank you, instead ! I have of course a double heart in this situation, but I am sure this is not a good way, to work together. rgds jan I. were you have href=http://www.openoffice.org/some_resource;, it should be href=/some_resource (nothing crazy, but a good practice). Grepping href=[']http://www.openoffice.org/ gives 25,026 matches. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [announcement] Downtime on forum.o.o
On 2013/10/25 05:17, Ricardo Berlasso said: 2013/10/24 janI j...@apache.org Hi I am pleased to announce that all forum dbs are now moved to the central sql server. The move took about 40 minutes. We hope you will all experience a better performance, however the php2bb could really do with a optimization (especially with sqlconnections). Thanks, Jan! Everything is working great! Thank you for the hard work. I returned home a little later. Although I was on-line and seeing your work, I was actually unpacking and cleaning from my trip. Sorry I cannot actually help. The websites work fine now. Besides, your MySQL clean-up caused some problems on the server dpkg package system. I fixed them last night. It works fine now. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Service Maintenance for pootle and AOO wiki
On 2013/10/22 15:42, janI said: On 22 October 2013 03:02, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2013/10/22 02:37, janI said: On 21 October 2013 18:39, Tony Stevenson pct...@apache.org wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:27:50PM +0200: Tony Stevenson wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 04:52:14PM +0200: Imacat (admin) has responded to my question if help is wanted, answer was that it would be be fine if infra does it (like me) and offered to help. If we think along these lines, my plan would be the following: You can ignore me if my help is not needed. But, still, I would never ignore a helping hand, and especially not a qualifed one as yours. Ah... That is totally unnecessary. ^^; 1) Thursday evening (16-22 UTC), I wil combine the single forum databases into the EN database. This will mean short breaks on the single forum, about 10min each (to copy the tables). If time permits, I will convert the FULLTEXT back to MyIsam. That's 0-6 UTC+8 here. I have works on Friday. I can stay up to at most 19 UTC (3 UTC+8), but not after that. ok, lets do this in another way, please select 2 forums (that have the lowest usage) from the db list below: | en | | es | | fr | | hu | | it | | ja | | nl | | pl | | vi | | zh | ++ Then I will move tables in these 2 and convert the FULLTEXT tables, as soon as I hear from you, and then you can test. Please give me a UTC time, where you can test (today/tomorrow), then I do the changes just before that time. Ah... it's embarrassing that, I will travel to another city later to deliver an OpenOffice macro class for two days, and will return before Thursday evening (16-22 UTC). ^^; That's the earliest time I'm available this week. And, currently, VI has the lowest traffic. But we have to notify Phan first. If it works with these 2 forums, I feel more secure with the rest, and maybe Ricardo can do a check on them since he is in the same TZ. And what do you mean by combining short forum databases into the EN databases? So we will only have EN database in the future? Yes, and it will problaly be called forumsaoodb. Remark, this is not a problem because all tables (in use) have the naming standard: phpbb_forum_table if you look e.g. in IT, you will see | phpbb_it_sessions_keys| | phpbb_it_sitelist | | phpbb_it_smilies | There are 2 databases I dont understand at the moment: | ps_helper | | test | any ideas ? The ps_helper database: https://www.google.com.tw/#q=ps_helper+mysql The test database can be safely ignored. It's a standard MySQL database for testing purpose. When installing Perl DBD::mysql library, we need a database to test if DBD::mysql is working. There should always a database named test (although some DB admins prefer to remove it), but you do not need to bother with its contents. 2) Friday morning (8-11 UTC) I will convert tables. This happens online, and only means slow system while I do it. That is 16-19 UTC+8. Normally I would be stuck in the traffic going home at this time on Fridays, but I could stay in the office if necessary. see above. 3) Friday afternoon (15 UTC, depending on pctony), we can take the forums down for approx 2hours to move the databases. That would be perfect for me. it would for me too, but pctony has to go to hospital with his kid, so we try to see if we can do it thursday (24/10). I would really apriciate your help with the first 2 forums, to make a more thorough test. And then hope that ricardo could do a smoke test on the others. This is of course a service that infra provides so if you want it postponed, we will have to find a way. And also, please add the date (10/24, 10/25). It's confusing to guess if Friday is 10/25 or 11/1. (And normally I would bet on 11/1 as 10/25 is very close.) Sorry about that, good idea. rgds jan I. In order to finalize the database changes Thursday and move friday, we need someone with access to all forums to help with the test. Could this be an acceptable plan ? The time is needed, but if preferred I can do it friday or saturday evening instead (depending on pctony). rgds jan I. This is now impacting other services and needs to be resolved ASAP, please. FWIW the total downtime was 11 minutes. Which is pretty fast considering all the changes that had to be incorporated. Regards, Andrea. -- Cheers, Tony -- Tony Stevenson t...@pc-tony.com pct...@apache.org http://www.pc-tony.com GPG - 1024D/51047D66
Re: Service Maintenance for pootle and AOO wiki
On 2013/10/22 16:10, imacat said: On 2013/10/22 15:42, janI said: On 22 October 2013 03:02, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2013/10/22 02:37, janI said: On 21 October 2013 18:39, Tony Stevenson pct...@apache.org wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:27:50PM +0200: Tony Stevenson wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 04:52:14PM +0200: Imacat (admin) has responded to my question if help is wanted, answer was that it would be be fine if infra does it (like me) and offered to help. If we think along these lines, my plan would be the following: You can ignore me if my help is not needed. But, still, I would never ignore a helping hand, and especially not a qualifed one as yours. Ah... That is totally unnecessary. ^^; 1) Thursday evening (16-22 UTC), I wil combine the single forum databases into the EN database. This will mean short breaks on the single forum, about 10min each (to copy the tables). If time permits, I will convert the FULLTEXT back to MyIsam. That's 0-6 UTC+8 here. I have works on Friday. I can stay up to at most 19 UTC (3 UTC+8), but not after that. ok, lets do this in another way, please select 2 forums (that have the lowest usage) from the db list below: | en | | es | | fr | | hu | | it | | ja | | nl | | pl | | vi | | zh | ++ Then I will move tables in these 2 and convert the FULLTEXT tables, as soon as I hear from you, and then you can test. Please give me a UTC time, where you can test (today/tomorrow), then I do the changes just before that time. Ah... it's embarrassing that, I will travel to another city later to deliver an OpenOffice macro class for two days, and will return before Thursday evening (16-22 UTC). ^^; That's the earliest time I'm available this week. And, currently, VI has the lowest traffic. But we have to notify Phan first. But I suppose this is the time back up or cover is for. :p You may ask RGB or Phan for help on this. If it works with these 2 forums, I feel more secure with the rest, and maybe Ricardo can do a check on them since he is in the same TZ. And what do you mean by combining short forum databases into the EN databases? So we will only have EN database in the future? Yes, and it will problaly be called forumsaoodb. Remark, this is not a problem because all tables (in use) have the naming standard: phpbb_forum_table if you look e.g. in IT, you will see | phpbb_it_sessions_keys| | phpbb_it_sitelist | | phpbb_it_smilies | There are 2 databases I dont understand at the moment: | ps_helper | | test | any ideas ? The ps_helper database: https://www.google.com.tw/#q=ps_helper+mysql The test database can be safely ignored. It's a standard MySQL database for testing purpose. When installing Perl DBD::mysql library, we need a database to test if DBD::mysql is working. There should always a database named test (although some DB admins prefer to remove it), but you do not need to bother with its contents. 2) Friday morning (8-11 UTC) I will convert tables. This happens online, and only means slow system while I do it. That is 16-19 UTC+8. Normally I would be stuck in the traffic going home at this time on Fridays, but I could stay in the office if necessary. see above. 3) Friday afternoon (15 UTC, depending on pctony), we can take the forums down for approx 2hours to move the databases. That would be perfect for me. it would for me too, but pctony has to go to hospital with his kid, so we try to see if we can do it thursday (24/10). I would really apriciate your help with the first 2 forums, to make a more thorough test. And then hope that ricardo could do a smoke test on the others. This is of course a service that infra provides so if you want it postponed, we will have to find a way. And also, please add the date (10/24, 10/25). It's confusing to guess if Friday is 10/25 or 11/1. (And normally I would bet on 11/1 as 10/25 is very close.) Sorry about that, good idea. rgds jan I. In order to finalize the database changes Thursday and move friday, we need someone with access to all forums to help with the test. Could this be an acceptable plan ? The time is needed, but if preferred I can do it friday or saturday evening instead (depending on pctony). rgds jan I. This is now impacting other services and needs to be resolved ASAP, please. FWIW the total downtime was 11 minutes. Which is pretty fast considering all the changes that had to be incorporated. Regards, Andrea. -- Cheers, Tony -- Tony Stevenson t...@pc-tony.com
Re: Service Maintenance for pootle and AOO wiki
On 2013/10/21 22:03, Tony Stevenson said: As you may be aware the Infra team have been battling with a performance issue on it's VMware hosts - and one of the things we are doing to mitigate some of this is to move SQL databases to a central server setup. This has been done, and now we are ready to move pootle(translate) and wiki.openoffice.org. The forum stuff will have to wait due to a version conflict. We intend to do wiki.openoffice.org a little later today, and we expect it to take no more than 1 hour to migrate the database. In fact it should be less than 30 minutes. We expect to start the downtime at 15:00 UTC. Apologies for the short That is ... 10 min later? That is ... cool? And what should we do to our Wiki server to adapt this change of MySQL server? notice, but this is the only timw this week when the relevant skills are in alignment, and the overhead of these SQL services has now reached a critical point to the extent it is driving so much IO it is affecting other services. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Service Maintenance for pootle and AOO wiki
於 2013年10月22日 02:37, janI 提到: On 21 October 2013 18:39, Tony Stevenson pct...@apache.org wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:27:50PM +0200: Tony Stevenson wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote on Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 04:52:14PM +0200: Please tell us when the migration is complete so that we can remove the warning. The service is back. IMO it also quicker. Immediate difference is that Wiki VM is only consuming 500 MB of RAM now, before it was using 2.8GB. OK, thank you! It seems that in the end interruption of service was minimal. I've removed the note from the home page. Of course, for the next maintenance operations, including the forum, please give us some more time to inform users. Of course we will, in fact we gave you the best we could today given the circumstances we found ourselved in. The forum move will need to have as many tables as possible converted from ISAM to inno. This is critical, as we only run MySQL 5.5 and will not be install 5.6 anytime soon, as a result all fields that require full text search enabling need to keep that table in ISAM. JanIV did this already for other DBs and he should be consulted on how to do this. It is likely this will be a many hour operation and is a pre-requisite. I dont wan't to force a date on the community to have this done by, but we need to action this ASAP. To prevent further issues to other VMs on the same host as forums. Can I please ask that if we do not hear any offers of support to help us convert these tables by Weds this week that Infra will set a date (with n days notice) and do the work ourselves. Imacat (admin) has responded to my question if help is wanted, answer was that it would be be fine if infra does it (like me) and offered to help. If we think along these lines, my plan would be the following: You can ignore me if my help is not needed. But, still, 1) Thursday evening (16-22 UTC), I wil combine the single forum databases into the EN database. This will mean short breaks on the single forum, about 10min each (to copy the tables). If time permits, I will convert the FULLTEXT back to MyIsam. That's 0-6 UTC+8 here. I have works on Friday. I can stay up to at most 19 UTC (3 UTC+8), but not after that. And what do you mean by combining short forum databases into the EN databases? So we will only have EN database in the future? 2) Friday morning (8-11 UTC) I will convert tables. This happens online, and only means slow system while I do it. That is 16-19 UTC+8. Normally I would be stuck in the traffic going home at this time on Fridays, but I could stay in the office if necessary. 3) Friday afternoon (15 UTC, depending on pctony), we can take the forums down for approx 2hours to move the databases. That would be perfect for me. And also, please add the date (10/24, 10/25). It's confusing to guess if Friday is 10/25 or 11/1. (And normally I would bet on 11/1 as 10/25 is very close.) In order to finalize the database changes Thursday and move friday, we need someone with access to all forums to help with the test. Could this be an acceptable plan ? The time is needed, but if preferred I can do it friday or saturday evening instead (depending on pctony). rgds jan I. This is now impacting other services and needs to be resolved ASAP, please. FWIW the total downtime was 11 minutes. Which is pretty fast considering all the changes that had to be incorporated. Regards, Andrea. -- Cheers, Tony -- Tony Stevenson t...@pc-tony.com pct...@apache.org http://www.pc-tony.com GPG - 1024D/51047D66 -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: The Number of Active Forum Administrators
On 2013/10/18 06:21, Ricardo Berlasso said: 2013/10/16 Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com 2013/10/16 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw On 2013/10/16 08:10, Ricardo Berlasso said: 2013/10/15 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw Besides, I would like to call for help from another PMC member as the administrator of all the 10 language forum, as a back up of me (and so will I be the back up of you). You don't need to understand all the 10 languages. :p You don't need to get involved into the actual forum operation. But it would be nice to have experience in forum operation and communication (i.e. was a moderator somewhere for months). If knowing the forum ACP and moderator panel is enough (I know nothing about databases, servers and all those scaring things that run behind the forum software), you can count on me. That would be great! ^_^ Have you registered your account on all the 10 forums? Just on three of them. Other than the ES forum, I'm registered on EN forums (user id: RGB) and on IT forums (user id: RGB-it). On the next couple of days I'll register on all the others. Ok, I just registered on all the other forums, always with RGB as user id. OK. Done. I have added you to both of the Administrators and Global moderators groups of all the 10 forum. You may check. Welcome. ^_*' Regards, Ricardo Regards, Ricardo Regards, Ricardo -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids http://www.openoffice.org/EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice Wiki e-mail address confirmation
On 2013/10/17 20:51, Deborah Raymond said: the confirmation code expired...what do I do now? Can you register again? From: MediaWiki Mail Sent: October 1, 2013 2:05 PM To: Orahray Subject: Apache OpenOffice Wiki e-mail address confirmation Someone, probably you, from IP address 208.114.148.223, has registered an account Orahray with this e-mail address on Apache OpenOffice Wiki. To confirm that this account really does belong to you and activate e-mail features on Apache OpenOffice Wiki, open this link in your browser: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:ConfirmEmail/80e862fe45c9645934053ed9a85118ac If you did *not* register the account, follow this link to cancel the e-mail address confirmation: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:InvalidateEmail/80e862fe45c9645934053ed9a85118ac This confirmation code will expire at 18:05, 8 October 2013. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Forum Privilege Check
Dear all, As Drew requested to resign from the administrators in all forums, and TerryE's account will be removed from administrators, too, I'm planning to check the privileged accounts on all the 10 forums, and remove inactive administrators that haven't logged in for more than *1 year*. 1 year here is defined as from Oct 1st, 2012 to the last minute of the removal. Administrator privileges is defined as the Administrators and Global Administrators groups. I shall check and later present a list of the administrators to be removed. If anyone know of any of these inactive administrators, you may ask her/him to logged in if they still are willing to help the forum administration. Or, in case if their administrative privileges are removed, they can be added in again. Please discuss under this thread of there is other consideration. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Forum Privilege Check
On 2013/10/15 14:48, janI said: On Oct 15, 2013 8:01 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: Dear all, As Drew requested to resign from the administrators in all forums, and TerryE's account will be removed from administrators, too, I'm planning to check the privileged accounts on all the 10 forums, and remove inactive administrators that haven't logged in for more than *1 year*. 1 year here is defined as from Oct 1st, 2012 to the last minute of the removal. Administrator privileges is defined as the Administrators and Global Administrators groups. I shall check and Ouch. Global moderators, not Global Administrators. :p later present a list of the administrators to be removed. If anyone know of any of these inactive administrators, you may ask her/him to logged in if they still are willing to help the forum administration. Or, in case if their administrative privileges are removed, they can be added in again. Please discuss under this thread of there is other consideration. hi I removed myself from having admin rigths and other special priviledges on all forums and wiki a month ago. If I forgot something please remove it. OK. I have checked and found no name of you on the administrators' list of all the forum. Thank you for all your service on the forum all the time. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Forum Privilege Check
On 2013/10/15 19:01, Andrea Pescetti said: imacat wrote: I shall check and later present a list of the administrators to be removed. Thanks imacat, very good. Could you also provide a list of active administrators too, forum by forum? This way it will be easier to see if we have forums where we need more administrators. Ouch. I should have read this mail minutes earlier. :p I was planning to, too. I shall put this issue in another thread. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Forum Privilege Check
On 2013/10/15 21:29, Ricardo Berlasso said: 2013/10/15 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org imacat wrote: I shall check and later present a list of the administrators to be removed. Thanks imacat, very good. Could you also provide a list of active administrators too, forum by forum? This way it will be easier to see if we have forums where we need more administrators. As commented on a thread on dev list, I already removed Terry and Drew from ES forums admin group, adding them to a newly created emeritus admis group without privileges. On ES forums, the active administrators are me (user id RGB-es, I have founder karma), Mauricio Baeza (user id mauricio) and Imacat. Thanks. I'll not do that, but if any administrator on any forum wants to follow the ES forum, i.e., put these retired administrators in the fame halls, you are welcome to do so. Regards, Ricardo Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Forum Privilege Check
Besides Drew and TerryE, the following inactive forum administrators are going to be removed from the forum administrators' list. They will be removed from the administrators' list after 2013/10/19(Sat.) 00:00 GMT+0. If any one of them still wants to help the forum administration, please log in before that. == (Columns: ID: last login date: group) en: ccornell: 2011-08-19: Administrators es: (none) fr: (none) hu: huAdmin: 2008-02-22: Administrators Kami: 2011-08-19: Global moderators it: (none) ja: (none) nl: GerardV: 2010-02-22: Administrators pl: milek_pl: 2011-05-31: Global moderators mellonedain: 2011-11-06: Global moderators vi: (none) zh: fong: 2010-08-27: Global moderators == By the way, the following two forum administrators have not logged in almost one year. If anyone know them, you may ask if they still wish to be the forum administrator or not. (Columns: ID: last login date: group) en: probe1: 2012-11-23: Global moderators ja: NakataMaho: 2012-11-26: Global moderators 2. Some of the forum administrators registered with an email at *@openoffice.org, which is not valid anymore. I shall check this later. I shall post the above notification on each forum later. On 2013/10/15 14:00, imacat said: Dear all, As Drew requested to resign from the administrators in all forums, and TerryE's account will be removed from administrators, too, I'm planning to check the privileged accounts on all the 10 forums, and remove inactive administrators that haven't logged in for more than *1 year*. 1 year here is defined as from Oct 1st, 2012 to the last minute of the removal. Administrator privileges is defined as the Administrators and Global Administrators groups. I shall check and later present a list of the administrators to be removed. If anyone know of any of these inactive administrators, you may ask her/him to logged in if they still are willing to help the forum administration. Or, in case if their administrative privileges are removed, they can be added in again. Please discuss under this thread of there is other consideration. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
The Number of Active Forum Administrators
Below is a list of active forum administrators. I am included in all the numbers, but I normally do not get involved into the forum operation. So the actual numbers of active forum administrators should be the numbers listed minus 1. == (Columns: Language:# of Administrators:# of Global moderators en:5:8 es:3:4 fr:4:4 hu:2:2 it:2:6 ja:2:3 nl:3:5 pl:2:4 vi:2:3 zh:2:4 == I think we need at least two active administrators for each forum, in order to be the back up of one another in case of someone unavailable. That means the following forums will need at least one more administrator: * HU (Hungarian, magyar nyelv) * IT (Italian, Italiano) * JA (Japanese, 日本語) * PL (Polish, Polski) * VI (Vietnamese, tiếng Việt) * ZH (Chinese, 中文) Besides, I would like to call for help from another PMC member as the administrator of all the 10 language forum, as a back up of me (and so will I be the back up of you). You don't need to understand all the 10 languages. :p You don't need to get involved into the actual forum operation. But it would be nice to have experience in forum operation and communication (i.e. was a moderator somewhere for months). -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum
I almost forgot: Welcome, Phan! It's nice to have you here. We are looking forward to work with you in the future. On 2013/10/16 13:02, imacat said: On 2013/10/16 02:21, Andrea Pescetti said: On 14/10/2013 imacat wrote: On 2013/10/13 17:24, Mr. Phan Anh said: I have already created the new account for the vi forums. Please activate it. I suppose I have grant admin privileges to you. Please check it. Thanks a lot for this work. I now see that http://forum.openoffice.org/vi/forum/ is open again for registrations but all topics seem locked. Could they be unlocked? Ouch. Thank you for the reviewing. ^^; They were unlocked. Then the two last steps I see are: - Phan creates an announcement to say that the Vietnamese Forum is open and posts it in the Announcements section Ouch. I have done that. Phan you may delete and replace my announcement with yours. - The same announcement, together with something saying that OpenOffice 4.0.1 is available in Vietnamese, is added to http://www.openoffice.org/vi/ (in this case Phan can post the text here and someone will copy it to the site). I shall leave this to Phan. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: The Number of Active Forum Administrators
On 2013/10/16 08:10, Ricardo Berlasso said: 2013/10/15 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw Below is a list of active forum administrators. I am included in all the numbers, but I normally do not get involved into the forum operation. So the actual numbers of active forum administrators should be the numbers listed minus 1. == (Columns: Language:# of Administrators:# of Global moderators en:5:8 es:3:4 fr:4:4 hu:2:2 it:2:6 ja:2:3 nl:3:5 pl:2:4 vi:2:3 zh:2:4 == I think we need at least two active administrators for each forum, in order to be the back up of one another in case of someone unavailable. That means the following forums will need at least one more administrator: * HU (Hungarian, magyar nyelv) * IT (Italian, Italiano) * JA (Japanese, 日本語) * PL (Polish, Polski) * VI (Vietnamese, tiếng Việt) * ZH (Chinese, 中文) Besides, I would like to call for help from another PMC member as the administrator of all the 10 language forum, as a back up of me (and so will I be the back up of you). You don't need to understand all the 10 languages. :p You don't need to get involved into the actual forum operation. But it would be nice to have experience in forum operation and communication (i.e. was a moderator somewhere for months). If knowing the forum ACP and moderator panel is enough (I know nothing about databases, servers and all those scaring things that run behind the forum software), you can count on me. That would be great! ^_^ Have you registered your account on all the 10 forums? Regards, Ricardo -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum
On 2013/10/13 17:24, Mr. Phan Anh said: @Hagar and Imacat. I have already created the new account for the vi forums. Please activate it. I suppose I have grant admin privileges to you. Please check it. Drew you may verify if I'd done it correctly. Besides, I have removed the following three administrators from the VI forum, as they haven't logged-in since 2010 and 2011: namn, vdquynh and cumeo89. I suppose we should remove TerryE, too. But that is another job. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:47 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2013/10/13 04:46, Hagar Delest said: I've promoted your account vietnamesel10n to Volunteer status so that you get access to the admin sections of the forum. Now if Drew or imacat can give you admin rights on the VN forum and unlock it, that would be fine. I have enabled the new account registration for the VI forum. Please register and tell us your account so that we can grant you the admin right. Hagar Le 12/10/2013 16:32, Mr. Phan Anh a écrit : 1. Sorry Guys especially Andrea, Hagar for this email of being late for response. I was on vacation last month. So: 2. I have registered an account at the openoffice English Forums. the account is: vietnamesel 3. Please update the status of my account. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum
On 2013/10/15 04:19, Ricardo Berlasso said: 2013/10/14 Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com Hi Phan, Imacat, Janl, et al Just now getting back on-line since the last email here. I haven't gone by the forums yet Imacat but I'm quite sure all is well. As for Terry's account, it seems to me it should of gone also. Same for my account, there is no good reason, which I can see, to have admin rights at any of the forums presently. OK. Per your request, I have removed you (Drew), along with TerryE, from the administrators' list. Thank you for your services all this time. ^_^ The current VI administrators are: Administrators: vietnamesel10n, imacat Global Administrators: vietnamesel10n, imacat, floris v As I actually do not get involved into the forum operation, this left us only one site administrator, Phan, now. Phan, you may need to recruit at least one more help, or contact floris v to see if you could work together, in case you are not available. We don't want to overwhelm you. P.S. I shall do a privilege clean-up for other forums, too. On the ES forums, I just created a new group called Administradores eméritos (Emeritus administrators) and put you and Terry there. Same colour of admins but same rights of volunteers (normal users + access to the hidden subforums, nothing else). I mean, while I think it is great from you that you ask for removal of the privileges that you are not planning to use, it's not right to just downgrade your accounts after all you did for the forums ;) Regards, Ricardo @Janl, yes I should be hitting the forums more (easy to do 'more' since I'm starting at zero) but I don't really need admin rights to be useful there - and if I did become active, seeing something where such rights could be put to use, well then I can always ask for them. It seems to me to be the better way to go, rather then having long dormant accounts. @Phan - thank you for taking this on, it is very good to see the site open again. Thanks, //drew On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:09 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2013/10/13 17:24, Mr. Phan Anh said: @Hagar and Imacat. I have already created the new account for the vi forums. Please activate it. I suppose I have grant admin privileges to you. Please check it. Drew you may verify if I'd done it correctly. Besides, I have removed the following three administrators from the VI forum, as they haven't logged-in since 2010 and 2011: namn, vdquynh and cumeo89. I suppose we should remove TerryE, too. But that is another job. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:47 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2013/10/13 04:46, Hagar Delest said: I've promoted your account vietnamesel10n to Volunteer status so that you get access to the admin sections of the forum. Now if Drew or imacat can give you admin rights on the VN forum and unlock it, that would be fine. I have enabled the new account registration for the VI forum. Please register and tell us your account so that we can grant you the admin right. Hagar Le 12/10/2013 16:32, Mr. Phan Anh a écrit : 1. Sorry Guys especially Andrea, Hagar for this email of being late for response. I was on vacation last month. So: 2. I have registered an account at the openoffice English Forums. the account is: vietnamesel 3. Please update the status of my account. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- 依瑪貓 imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc 旅舍依瑪 http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ 《女聲》電子報 http://www.wov.idv.tw/ 台灣女子自由軟體工作小組 http
Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum
On 2013/10/15 04:19, Ricardo Berlasso said: 2013/10/14 Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com Hi Phan, Imacat, Janl, et al Just now getting back on-line since the last email here. I haven't gone by the forums yet Imacat but I'm quite sure all is well. As for Terry's account, it seems to me it should of gone also. Same for my account, there is no good reason, which I can see, to have admin rights at any of the forums presently. OK. Per your request, I have removed you (Drew), along with TerryE, from the administrators' list. Thank you for your services all this time. ^_^ The current VI administrators are: Administrators: vietnamesel10n, imacat Global Administrators: vietnamesel10n, imacat, floris v As I actually do not get involved into the forum operation, this left us only one site administrator, Phan, now. Phan, you may need to recruit at least one more help, or contact floris v to see if you could work together, in case you are not available. We don't want to overwhelm you. P.S. I shall do a privilege check on other forums, too. On the ES forums, I just created a new group called Administradores eméritos (Emeritus administrators) and put you and Terry there. Same colour of admins but same rights of volunteers (normal users + access to the hidden subforums, nothing else). I mean, while I think it is great from you that you ask for removal of the privileges that you are not planning to use, it's not right to just downgrade your accounts after all you did for the forums ;) Regards, Ricardo @Janl, yes I should be hitting the forums more (easy to do 'more' since I'm starting at zero) but I don't really need admin rights to be useful there - and if I did become active, seeing something where such rights could be put to use, well then I can always ask for them. It seems to me to be the better way to go, rather then having long dormant accounts. @Phan - thank you for taking this on, it is very good to see the site open again. Thanks, //drew On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:09 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2013/10/13 17:24, Mr. Phan Anh said: @Hagar and Imacat. I have already created the new account for the vi forums. Please activate it. I suppose I have grant admin privileges to you. Please check it. Drew you may verify if I'd done it correctly. Besides, I have removed the following three administrators from the VI forum, as they haven't logged-in since 2010 and 2011: namn, vdquynh and cumeo89. I suppose we should remove TerryE, too. But that is another job. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:47 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2013/10/13 04:46, Hagar Delest said: I've promoted your account vietnamesel10n to Volunteer status so that you get access to the admin sections of the forum. Now if Drew or imacat can give you admin rights on the VN forum and unlock it, that would be fine. I have enabled the new account registration for the VI forum. Please register and tell us your account so that we can grant you the admin right. Hagar Le 12/10/2013 16:32, Mr. Phan Anh a écrit : 1. Sorry Guys especially Andrea, Hagar for this email of being late for response. I was on vacation last month. So: 2. I have registered an account at the openoffice English Forums. the account is: vietnamesel 3. Please update the status of my account. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw
Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum
On 2013/10/13 04:46, Hagar Delest said: I've promoted your account vietnamesel10n to Volunteer status so that you get access to the admin sections of the forum. Now if Drew or imacat can give you admin rights on the VN forum and unlock it, that would be fine. I have enabled the new account registration for the VI forum. Please register and tell us your account so that we can grant you the admin right. Hagar Le 12/10/2013 16:32, Mr. Phan Anh a écrit : 1. Sorry Guys especially Andrea, Hagar for this email of being late for response. I was on vacation last month. So: 2. I have registered an account at the openoffice English Forums. the account is: vietnamesel 3. Please update the status of my account. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [CWiki] new default access rights active
Sorry for the late reply. On 2013/10/02 19:15, Andrea Pescetti said: Andrea Pescetti wrote: The following 3 are pending since they have no real name in CWiki. Just confirm you use this username and I'll enable you. imacat Yang Shih-Ching Yes, this is me. jim Jim Jagielski marcus Marcus Lange The following 5 are the ones that I couldn't find (either you don't have a CWiki username, and there is nothing to do now; or just provide your CWiki username and I'll enable it). atjensen Drew Jensen galoppini Roberto Galoppini jani Jan Iversen louis Louis Suarez-Potts pj Peter Junge (there is a pj, but name does not match) And of course, if anybody else need access please provide your existing CWiki username, valid for login at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ and I will give you editing rights. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Reopening the Vietnamese Forum
So is it OK to reopen the VN forum? I thought it was Drew that told me that the VN forum has too many spam without management. If there is any volunteer administrator I would be more than happy for reopening it. On 2013/10/05 23:12, Drew Jensen said: I am? I would of thought you guys nixed my account long ago.. OK - well, let me know when and I'll go do it. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: He need to register on the EN forum first. As soon as he's ready to moderate the VI forum, a super admin (Drew is the only one active I think) will be needed to promote him admin of the VI forum. Then we can reopen the VI forum. Hagar Le 05/10/2013 15:46, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : On 22/09/2013 Hagar Delest wrote: Please remember that the Vietnamese forum was closed because there was nobody left to moderate it. So as soon as we open it again, be prepared to spend some time approving genuine posts among spam OpenOffice 4.0.1 in Vietnamese was released a few days ago. Now it would be a good moment to reopen the Vietnamese forum, and consider Vietnamese mailing lists after that. I see that the topic at http://forum.openoffice.org/**en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=** 64457p=286122http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=64457p=286122 has no opposition, but no progress either. All we need now is that Mr. Phan Anh registers on both http://forum.openoffice.org/en http://forum.openoffice.org/vi with the same username and then posts to the topic above saying that he accepts to be a moderator, right? Then we can reopen the forum and put a short announcement on http://www.openoffice.org/vi/ and revisit the issue in a few weeks to check if the workload is manageable. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Integrate Traditional Chinese into Chunk (Was: Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2))
On 2013/07/19 00:33, Ricardo Berlasso said: 2013/7/18 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw On 2013/07/18 19:09, Jürgen Schmidt said: On 7/18/13 1:07 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 7/18/13 12:00 PM, imacat wrote: Dear all, and please create a task for this And how to create a task? Sorry I haven't done that before. Just create a new issue in bugzilla and assign it to Jürgen. Sorry that I return to this issue so late. I was having problem logging in and was on my master thesis oral exam. I have created an issue, but I guess I do not have the privilege to assign to Jürgen. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122913 Please help me on this issue (both the privilege and the Traditional Chinese build). Thanks. Regards Ricardo And thanks to you and everyone for all these works for the release of 4.0. Sorry that I did not help much on this. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)
On 2013/07/20 06:26, Juergen Schmidt said: Am Freitag, 19. Juli 2013 um 19:46 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Dave Fisher wrote: On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:09 AM, janI wrote: It is in principle no good, that a single person decides if a vote is valid or not, it sort of invalidates the idea of voting. Hmm... ^^; I did not notice this following discussion. I suppose we are counting the votes, not the comments after the votes. That is, whether I comment as for the release blocker # or for missing the Traditional Chinese version or bc'z I'm krazzzy is irrelevant to my vote. The interpretation of the comments belong to the [DISCUSS] thread, not to this [VOTE] thread. So please still count me as -1, although this does not affect the result of the votes. I have to present my position as a member of our local community. Nevertheless, this release is great! It's really pity for me not able to involve in the process of this release. Thanks to Juergen and everybody on your hard work on this release. imacat's VOTE was not a Veto as you cannot veto a release. Enough misunderstandings here (I think that Jan was saying: Juergen cannot decide by himself whether a -1 is valid...). Anyway, let's update the tally to 24 +1 votes (14 binding) and 1 -1 vote (imacat, binding) and move on. As Juergen already wrote, we remain committed to make the traditional Chinese version available at the earliest occasion, it is already at 100% but it simply came too late to build/include it. In the meantime, it will be available as snapshot build. do whatever you want, from my point of view imacat voted on something that wasn't part of the vote. It remains an invalid vote for me. Juergen Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)
Dear all, The translation of Traditional Chinese was finished (100%). Could it be added to the release now? ^_^ https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/ On 2013/07/18 02:57, Juergen Schmidt said: Am Mittwoch, 17. Juli 2013 um 20:31 schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/17/13 7:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I'm trying to download the source, ASC, MD5 and SHA256 files, but I'm getting errors I'm using the links from this page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot The binaries download fine, but I can't verify the source. Anyone else running into this? well access the files directly via http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/RC/4.0.0/source/ I haven't updated the wiki, sorry. OK. I verified the hashes and signatures. However, we should clarify which public keys to use. Right now we say four different things: 1) We have a KEYS file in the dist/incubator directory: http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/KEYS 2) Your RC page points this file, which doesn't exist: https://people.apache.org/keys/group/ooo.asc 3) Your RC page also points to this file, which is not really suitable since it is in your personal directory: http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/aoo.KEYS 4) The download page instructions (http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.1_checksums.html#howto) points to this file, which does exist: https://people.apache.org/keys/group/openoffice.asc I thought the convention was to put a KEYS file into the root of the project's dist directory. If so we need to remember to copy it over into our TLP directory for AOO 4.0. yes and there is already one that I have copied from the incubator. I will clean this mess up tomorrow ;-) Juergen Regards, -Rob Juergen -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)
-1 for Traditional Chinese version not included yet. On 2013/07/18 16:54, Rory O'Farrell said: +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)
On 2013/07/18 19:09, Jürgen Schmidt said: On 7/18/13 1:07 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 7/18/13 12:00 PM, imacat wrote: Dear all, The translation of Traditional Chinese was finished (100%). Could it be added to the release now? ^_^ no, it is too late and I won't do a respin. But I will integrate the translation on trunk immediately and we can build an unofficial snapshot version. The reason is quite simply, it is too late, we don't know potential other problem triggered by incorrect translation or whatever, nobody has tested this version. But as I wrote in another mail I will integrate it on trunk and we can prepare a snapshot version for testing. Sorry but the timeline were clear and I don't want to make any ad-hoc decision. and please create a task for this I see. Thanks. ^_*' And how to create a task? Sorry I haven't done that before. And thanks to you and everyone for all these works for the release of 4.0. Sorry that I did not help much on this. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)
On 2013/07/13 18:20, Marcus (OOo) said: Am 07/13/2013 05:14 AM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM, imacatima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: Sorry. I did not see Traditional Chinese version. Did I missed something on the Traditional Chinese version? UI translation is not complete: https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/ I can see that 97% is translated. Not that bad. Do we have an agreement that we need 100% for a release? I'm curious, too. For a couple of years (3.1-3.3 I suppose), OpenOffice was released with about 92% of Traditional Chinese translated. Do we have to be 100% translated to be included in the release list? I'm asking because I really don't know it and in former OOo times we have done releases for languages with at least 80% translated UI [1]. So, maybe a change that I haven't seen in the last weeks. I don't want to force a release, just asking. [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Release_criteria#Localization_requirements Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)
On 2013/07/13 20:52, Ariel Constenla-Haile said: On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:20:32PM +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/13/2013 05:14 AM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM, imacatima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: Sorry. I did not see Traditional Chinese version. Did I missed something on the Traditional Chinese version? UI translation is not complete: https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/ I can see that 97% is translated. Not that bad. Do we have an agreement that we need 100% for a release? http://markmail.org/message/pxgvjuw2j3ukqsom Concerns should have been risen at that time, it was discussed on the mailing list, and properly tagged (if it does not happen on the mailing list...). I'm asking because I really don't know it and in former OOo times we have done releases for languages with at least 80% translated UI [1]. So, maybe a change that I haven't seen in the last weeks. For this particular case, the translation of the main 4.0.0 feature is incomplete https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/svx/source/sidebar/ How serious would it be to release this translation in such a state? The same applies to other languages released in 3.4.* but not in this 4.0.0 RC. Hmm... I see the problem with side bar translation. And I'm very sorry that I was in my research paper and did not notice the previous discussion. However, there are several issues of concern: 1. I am going to give a talk in our largest local open source conference (COSCUP 2013, http://coscup.org/) on 8/3, and plan to announce OpenOffice 4.0. It is the first talk after the key notes. It would be very embarrassing to announce it without a local version released. 2. There would be a large-scale deployment around August or September (6000-7000) in a government department, and they are planning to join our development force in order to fix some Chinese problems in governmental use. If OpenOffice 4.0 Traditional Chinese version is not available at that time, we could only give them 3.4.1, which their development could not be based on. I've asked our local community to help the translation in urgent. If we can finish the Traditional Chinese sidebar translation with certain amount, could it be OK to release it? Regards -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)
Sorry. I did not see Traditional Chinese version. Did I missed something on the Traditional Chinese version? Thank you. On 2013/07/12 21:52, Jürgen Schmidt said: please don't discuss in a vote thread @Raphael, I disagree we do testing on snapshots since weeks. Juergen On 7/12/13 3:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Hi at all Moment Jürgen. Test a RC and final vote. within 72 houers is unserios. Pleas give a a full week for this. Else i will vote -1 because there is not enought time to make the final tests. The previous dev snapshot (rev. 1499347) build was July 5th. That was 8 days ago. So there has been over a week for anyone who was interested in doing more testing or reporting any new release blockers. With the RC I think we can be more focused and verify the fixed bugs and test around any areas that changed since the last dev snapshot. (Think of it this way: If Juergen had labeled the July 5th dev snapshot as RC 1 and today's build as RC 2, would any more testing have occurred? Would anything be different?) Regards, -Rob Greetings Raphael Am 12.07.13 11:11, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice. This release candidate provides the following important changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the Symphony grant in OpenOffice. (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly interoperability issues (3) 600 defects are fixed (4) many more features and improvements are integrated For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes. But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be updated and polished ... The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185! Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0. The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])
Waoh... You are awesome! On 2013/04/02 15:22, janI said: HI. I have now been on the forum vm, testing my new access. While I was in there I made a couple of observations: 1) number of apache work thread mysql max_connections, which is generally a bad idea. The number of work tasks is higher than the actual load calls for, so the work parameter should be adjusted. 2) mysql tables are not performing too well (indexes), it seems they were last tuned ages ago. Some of the table could benefit from being converted to innoDb. 3) memory/disk and other resources are fine and not a problem 4) due to the heavy php usage, the site would benefit from fast-cgi (requires httpd upgrade) 5) It seems that a lot of identical pages are been requested, using trafficserver would lower the mysql load a lot (on wiki2 the difference is more or less double). This might also call for some more memory. Some work for the new maintenance team. rgds jan I. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.
jan I. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])
Dear all, The forum are back now. On 2013/03/15 00:24, imacat said: Hmm... we seem to lost the forums now. I'd written to the infra team for help on reboot. We shall see later. On 2013/03/13 18:22, janI said: HI. It sounds more like a mismatch between the number of httpd worker tasks and mysql max_connections. It is important that max_connections is higher than the number of work tasks (or with fast-cgi the number of php processes). When correctly configured you will just experience longer reply times, when the server is busy and no sql errors. I fixed a similar problem on mwiki as part of the upgrade, but I do not have access the vm where the forum runs. rgds Jan I. On 13 March 2013 11:15, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: Hello, Forums are outage again this morning with same error. Maybe the MySQL max_connections parameter must be increase. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Mwiki possible name change.
Considering forums.openoffice.org altogether, I would vote for wiki.openoffice.org instead of wiki.openoffice.apache.org. 1. The existing community is built on this current host name. It would only confuse the community to change it. This is especially true that we have changed it just recently. 2. It causes trouble to forward discussion thread URLs, pages when the host name is long. On 2013/01/15 06:12, Rob Weir said: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:10 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On Jan 14, 2013 10:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:09 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. I want to inform the community about an ongoing discussion in Infra regarding the use of wiki.openoffice.org or wiki.openoffice.apache.org Background: We decided sometime ago to let me upgrade mwiki, which I did, with great help from many in here. After that there has been a relatively high load on the VM (very positive) and bi-daily kernel panics due to lack of resources. It was then decided to make a new VM with a new ubuntu, instead of an upgrade in place (to get rid of the kernel panic) which I deemed risky due to the state (and documentation) of the installation. I have completed the work with the new VM, and we were ready to transfer the live site. At that point I learned about plans of using https instead of http. Infra-root has a policy that all logins (not only for committers) should be done through https. Using https, requires a certificate, and the ongoing discussion is whether *.openoffice.org is really needed or if *.openoffice.apache.org would be ok. If I have understood the details correctly (sorry for being vague, but I have not been able to get a clear answer), the users would address https: wiki.openoffice.org or http:wiki.openoffice.org and get a response as https: ooo-wiki.openoffice.org or https:ooo-wiki.openoffice.apache.org. IMHO renaming goes in the wrong direction. I think we should be looking to get the entire website on to one domain, either all on openoffice.org or all on openoffice.apache.org. Splitting things up is confusing for users, makes extra work for us (and for Infra), confuses the hell out of Google Analytics. I'd really like to see everything under one domain, including our blog and even CWiki (or migrate CWiki over to MWiki). That's my ideal. Is it impossible? it is highly possible. I thought converting cwiki was taken off the table. we discussed it earlier and said it should be after the upgrade. since then no one on the mwiki side have volunteered. Sorry, I didn't mean to convert or migrate now, as part of the present set of activities. I meant longer term it would be good to get under a single domain. -Rob I have written/mailed several times that openoffice.org is a legacy, very important to AOO, and hope it has been understood. The latest discussion seems to go in the direction of getting a certificate for openoffice.org , but there are no guarantees. Is the issue cost? We could do a mini-fundraising plea on our homepage. I bet we could raise the necessary funds for the certificate. Note: If I understand the security concern with the login, aren't we in the same issue with the phpBB forums? Would a single cert be able to cover that as well? Or do we need one cert per subdomain? for some reason there seems to be resistence against wildcard cert, even though apache.org is a wildcard. latest news is that the https discussion has been postponed, so we at least can get a stable server. Regards, -Rob I have informed infra, that I cannot participate in works that causes a url name change, without having a green light from the AOO community. Meaning that I am now just monitoring what happens and not participating. I am sorry to have partly caused the current situation, I wanted to make a clean installation to make the VM easier to maintain, had I not done that, the https discussion would problaly never have surfaced. I have no deadline for the change, mainly because it is done by others, but I am convinced that Infra will end with a solution that the community can accept. Please take this as information, I cannot go into a discussion on behalf of Infra (I am not infra, but we do have other committers that are infra). Rgds jan I. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Blogging volunteers
On 2013/01/15 21:19, Rob Weir said: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: The next weeks will see a release, two conferences and the 4.0 preparations. With so many topics to talk about, I suggest that everybody who may want to blog about OpenOffice on our official blog http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ asks for a Roller account in advance. The project blog is in English, but don't worry about the language, we have native speakers who can proofread posts. Thanks for encouraging more blogging volunteers. I'm happy to help with the editing as well. Everyone should note that a blog post does not need to be lengthy. A mix of short update and longer expository pieces are great. Having a regular heartbeat of communications is the important thing. And if you want to help, but don't know what to write about, then consider this: Offer to do an interview, via email or Skype, with another project member, or an extension author, or an OpenOffice book author. Turn that interview into a blog post. This helps promote the project and the ecosystem. Regards, -Rob All you need is to reply to this message on ooo-dev and ask for an account here; we will then ask Infra to create the accounts. Hi. I would like to volunteer to be one of the blog authors, too. Regards, Andrea. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Mwiki possible name change.
於 2013年01月19日 03:25, janI 提到: On 18 January 2013 19:39, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2013/01/19 02:30, janI said: On 18 January 2013 19:25, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2013/01/19 00:24, Donald Whytock said: FWIW, my company for the longest time firewall-blocked anything of the form *.openoffice.org (Freeware/shareware). This despite the fact that I could reach Sourceforge, *.apache.org, etc., and despite the fact that we use pieces of OO. So my personal preference would be to at least keep a means of reaching the forum and wiki via apache.org. Perhaps I'm the only one with this issue, or perhaps it's relatively rare, but still my take is that more options is better. You may try ooo-wiki.apache.org and ooo-forums.apache.org instead. These two host names are not redirected to wiki.openoffice.org and forums.openoffice.org. Did you mean that ? both are redirected ! I thought I was making mistakes, so I tried again. Only user.services.openoffice.org and wiki.services.openoffice.org are redirected to forums.openoffice.org and wiki.openoffice.org, respectively. All other host names, if exist (and yes they exist), are not redirected. The DNS are pointed to the same IP. I mean the URLs (where httpd deal with) are redirected or not redirected. I just tried ooo-wiki.apache.org again, without cache and gets response from wiki.openoffice.org. It is correct though that ooo-forums.apache.org comes with a page, and if I try forums.openoffice.org then I am redirected to http://www.openoffice.org/projects/forums/ which does not exist. I am sure you have a typo there and mean forum.openoffice.org which works. As part of the change to wiki2-vm, the url-request goes through a common proxy server, and there some of the old names have not been activated, one of infra checked each of the names. Ouch, you are right. ^^; Thank you for updating information. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Possible broken link: other
On 2013/01/11 23:46, Jürgen Schmidt said: On 1/11/13 4:35 PM, j...@autostage.de wrote: Hello, this links are not working: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/BASIC_Guide http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OpenOffice.org_Developers_Guide Thanks for the reporting. We are working on restoring it now. the wiki has a technical problem at the moment, should be back soon hopefully Juergen Cheers, Jens _ mediaengineer - Ingenieurbüro für CAD und technische Planungen Dipl. Ing. (FH) Jens Mueller Grafenwerthstraße 18 50937 Köln mobil: +49 (0) 172 30 68 072 büro: +49 (0) 221 299 88 80 fax: +49 (0) 221 299 88 79 j...@autostage.de www.autostage.de www.mediaengineer.de !! Bitte drucken Sie diese Email nur, wenn Sie unbedingt müssen. Der Umwelt zuliebe !! !! please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to !! -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: For information: Ubuntu on Android phones news report
On 2013/01/03 06:50, Rory O'Farrell said: BBC report that Ubuntu will be modified to run on Android phones. This may open the door for a port of Apache OpenOffice http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868 I can't wait to see that. I tried to install Linux inside my Android ASUS Transformer in last week I hoped to see OpenOffice my Transformer. The performance is poor. Android uses framebuffer instead of the X-server for display. Framebuffer is terrible in performance for desktop applications. From the news article, it seems that Canonical is planning to replace the Android OS on the devices with its Ubuntu Linux. This seems reasonable to solve the framebuffer performance problem, replacing it completely with an X-server. However, I have many Android applications and games on my Transformer. I would not replace my Android OS for that. :p -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: New year
On 2013/01/01 07:18, Sylvain DENIS said: I hope an happy new year to aoo Sylvain denis from belgium Happy 2013 to everyone! OpenOffice shall live long and prosper(?)! (Sorry, again.) I believe we shall have a great year in 2013, as we have so many plans going on. ^_*' -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
A Small Quest, and Merry Christmas!
Dear all, Here is a small quest for you. You need to be on Linux with mplayer installed. (It would still be OK if not, but you won't be hearing anything.) http://people.apache.org/~imacat/piano-quest-20121221.zip And, Merry Christmas! ^_*' -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Default Toolbar for Certain Languages
On 2012/12/19 11:36, Shenfeng Liu said: 2012/12/19 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw On 2012/12/18 11:24, Fan Zheng said: As we are considering about the side bar stuff currently, would you mind giving us more specifications on your suggestions? Specificly, I'm thinking about installing this on both Chinese versions by default: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/cpuncbar We may discuss about the list of punctuation marks, but that's the basic idea. This is quite important to Chinese users, as people keep asking me about it. imacat, I agree with you that it is a very useful feature! But IMO to build it into product, we need a better design than the current extension. e.g. It should be customizable, since there are so many special characters and different people will ask for different characters on the toolbar. And then, it should be general enough and be able to work for all languages (even English), with different default set of characters? This looks nice. I think it is the proper way to do. ^_*' -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Release candicate] mwiki, test
I did not test the math plug-in, but I found no problem. Thank you for your great effort! On 2012/12/20 06:23, janI said: Finally I got mwiki upgraded and ready for test. version 1.20.2 of mediawiki, with AOO skin and a copy of the database is available for testing: wikitest.openoffice.org It will prompt for a user/password (htaccess), which is: wikitest/wikitest (just used so nobody thinks it is a production wiki). There are several changes against to current wiki, here are some of the important ones: - New editor (I ended up using the standard editor) - many extensions are now part of the core (it requires that especially creative user pages needs testing) - special gatcha for create account, actually it is just a reuse of an extension that was already loaded I have done a run and go test, but we need it tested a lot more before it goes into production. My proposal is to leave wikitest running until 31/12/2012, and anybody who finds a problem (or a feature request) please make a bugzilla report, that makes it easier to control. Beginning january and once all severe bugzilla bugs for wikitest has been solved, I will ask for a vote on replacing the current wiki. have a nice time testing. Jan I -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Some honest thoughts: 1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird. The lights of the plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not. 2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple. And we have other components such as Math and Draw. 3. The directions of the lights are contradictory. The lights of the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the plate of the orb) come from right. But still, thanks you very much for this great effort. On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays! -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Merry Christmas!
Dear friends, Merry Christmas! Wish you a happy new year! ^_*' http://people.apache.org/~imacat/xmastree.ods (Please do not view it in the browser.) -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [proposal/question] wiki.openoffice.org future: mediaWiki or Apache JSPWiki.
於 2012年12月03日 21:48, janI 提到: On 3 December 2012 13:20, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:35 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: I agree on a lot of the things. BUT do not forget that a lot of questions/problems also applies to an upgrade. - User interface will change slightly - Data loss is not acceptlable but the UTF8 conversion might have a side effect on some browsers - The tweaks in the current mwiki, will not automatically be present after an upgrade. Which tweaks? If I knew then I could include it in the new version, problem is that a.o. imicat tells that there have been made modifications, and none of it seems to be documented. There are 2 ways to find it out: 1. Ask Terry Ellison himself. He left his e-mail in the user database. http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User:TerryE 2. A more strict method: Untar a fresh-new MediaWiki 1.15, and run diff to find out what is changed. Applied the changes to MediaWiki 1.16 *on a test site* to see if they work. If they work, do the same on the live site and update the symbolic link to point to the patched MediaWiki 1.16. This is how I did when upgrading my lab's WordPress from its tweaked older version. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [proposal/question] wiki.openoffice.org future: mediaWiki or Apache JSPWiki.
On 2012/12/03 06:35, janI said: JSPwiki just announced a new version: http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/ since it is a apache project, should we consider upgrading to jspwiki instead of continuing with mediawiki ? The upgrade will almost for sure be harder, but to me it seems beneficial to use products from our own family, that way we help them and they hopefully help us. I am also confident that it can be done without data loss, which is an absolute no-go to me, we will not accept data loss. If it is decided to go down this path, I will contact jspWiki and get involved with their work so we have a real influence on how the wiki software evolves (especially in regard of spam control). If the only benefit is our own family, I do not see this as a strong reason to risk for either data loss or hard work. Actually, the previous admin Terry may have made some tweak on the MediaWiki. The most concern for me is not data loss (we have backup), but if the wiki can still run as before. Also there are at least four questions that I see immediately. 1. You said there will be no data loss. Could we assume JSPWiki is a successor of MediaWiki? 2. Are the currently-enabled plugins have their corresponding plugins in JSPWiki? 3. Could there be a test machine that we can test first before change? 4. What will be changed on the user side? Jan I. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [call for review] wiki maintenance
Jan, On 01.11.30 02:19am, janI said: Thanks I did not know that LEFT JOIN and JOIN has different speeds on inodb tables. I made the fast fix, and split xmaint_uids into smaller tables, and is running now. BUT I am dead nervous of deleting wrong data !! so the review in general would be nice. I have also decided to post the user list here, to give people a chance to shout and get removed from the list. There are very little margin for errors on our database, and I would not like to cause problems (I think I already have used this years allowance). Thanks for your suggestions, I will implement a couple of your ideas before I release the final script. Thanks for this tremendous work here. I'm still fighting with my class and research project at 3:00am. ^^; This server is a virtual machine. There is a limit to its CPU power. And Andrea's suggestion is right. Join operations actually creats a big n times m table first and then filter. That sucks when n and m are both large. Jan. On 29 November 2012 19:09, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 29/11/2012 janI wrote: ooo-wiki VM is so weak (compared to my notebook) that a lot of my special select/join statements timed out...and the just because I have a simple where clause where user_id in (select user_id from wiki_maint_uids) I only had a quick look yesterday and I cannot check now, but there were several possible speed improvements, including using a simple JOIN instead if a LEFT JOIN and then discarding NULL matches, introducing a primary key or an index in the wiki_maint_uids table and using update on joins instead of subqueries. I didn't test any of these, and I didn't see the database, so don't trust the lines above too much! They are just semi-random thoughts based on the code I saw yesterday, and it could turn out that these changes slow down the queries instead of improving them. Regards, Andrea. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Registration as New User
On 2012/11/24 23:59, Bob Berrey said: Please register me as a new user of openoffice. What do you mean by register a new user? OpenOffice does not ask for registration anymore. There is no need to register anything. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Registration as New User
於 01.11.25 05:03am, Rob Weir 提到: On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:16 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Robert, As you are not subscribed to the list you missed imacat answer that I'm copying below. As she said, Apache OpenOffice do not ask for registration: it's a free product and you can download it for free(1) and use it without limit(2) and without registration If he was installing an old version of OOo it would attempt to register and fail. The user might have experienced that and then tried to register manually. Closest thing we have to registration is to invite the user to sign up to our announcement list and/or follow us on Facebook for future announcements,. Actually, I also suspect the user might try to register the www.openoffice.org website, as before. Or the forums, or the wiki, or the mailing lists, or even the committer account. That's the reason I asked What do you mean by 'register a new user'? Thanks to RGB.ES for reminding us that the user might not be on the list. -Rob (1) http://www.openoffice.org/download/ (2) http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_free.html Best regards 2012/11/24 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw On 2012/11/24 23:59, Bob Berrey said: Please register me as a new user of openoffice. What do you mean by register a new user? OpenOffice does not ask for registration anymore. There is no need to register anything. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Subscribing to mailing list
On 2012/11/20 07:46, Miguel Diaz said: I would like to subscribe to this mailing list. Please let me know what needs to be done, thank you. Send a mail to dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org, follow the instruction in the confirmation mail, and you are done. Miguel D. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?
On 2012/11/08 07:37, Andrea Pescetti aid: On 07/11/2012 Fan Zheng wrote: Suggestion: We should assign a specified person be responsible to broadcasting the status and the progress online, before the next CONF. I agree, but choose someone who is not a speaker and make sure he has access to Roller (and has actually tried to use it) before the conference starts. This way we can be sure that communication will be efficient. I'm kind of doing it now, on our Google plus and Facebook. Although I started it a little late and only posted the current topic. Regards, Andrea. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Rony: Scripting Apache OpenOffice
Currently running: Rony: Scripting Apache OpenOffice Rony from Austria is illustrating the object structure of OpenOffice UNO API and giving expamples. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Call for papers: ApacheCon North America, Portland, Feb 2013
On 2012/11/08 19:19, Andrea Pescetti said: On 23/10/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: especially those who live in the US may be pleased to know that the website of the next ApacheCon North America is online: http://na.apachecon.com/ The conference will take place in Portland, Oregon, USA, 26-28 Feb 2013. The Call for Papers is already open and will stay open until 12 Nov 2012 If anybody missed this: the deadline for submitting talks is 11 Nov (so in 3 days; and I was mistaken in writing 12 Nov, apparently it's closing one day earlier). North-American community members, please do submit a talk (if someone needs an incentive: having a talk accepted will save you the 1300 USD admission fee). Others are welcome too, of course. I won't attend ApacheCon NA or submit a talk, for a few reasons: I may not attend to ApacheCon NA 2013, too. Although I would love to meet more of our OpenOffice US community in person, my school project is really tight. I would have a serious problem if you see me in ApacheCon NA 2013. :p 1) Time. ApacheCon is amazing, but I can't take another week off from my, totally unrelated, job to attend the US edition too. (I also prefer to spend my money in different ways, but time is the main issue). 2) Overlapping events. In the first weekend of that month (February 2013) we will already have FOSDEM in Brussels, which I will very likely attend. 3) Conference spirit. ApacheCon US seems a business-oriented conference, while ApacheCon EU is the community edition. We have plenty of project members, especially in North America, who will feel perfectly at home in a business-oriented conference, while the community edition is just fine for me. I might be wrong about item 3, but a lot of people on this list have probably attended both ApacheCon NA and ApacheCon EU and can explain the difference better than I can. Regards, Andrea. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
