Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Marcus (OOo) wrote: sure both buttons should react independent of each other. I've fixed this. Regarding the styling, this is indeed really a question of taste. To see the difference maybe better, I've styled both buttons different. I like the style that I now see for the first button (full version): dark text on light background, that becomes light text on dark background at hovering. I can't see the same effect on the second button (I don't know if this is a bug or if it is what you mean with styled different): I see both buttons styled the same way (dark text on light background) when not hovering, then if I hover over the second nothing changes. For the rest, really impressive improvements! Thanks. And let me add to this that the new analyze.html page is really nice too. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 06/06/2014 08:54 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: sure both buttons should react independent of each other. I've fixed this. Regarding the styling, this is indeed really a question of taste. To see the difference maybe better, I've styled both buttons different. I like the style that I now see for the first button (full version): dark text on light background, that becomes light text on dark background at hovering. I can't see the same effect on the second button (I don't know if this is a bug or if it is what you mean with styled different): I see both buttons styled the same way (dark text on light background) when not hovering, then if I hover over the second nothing changes. yes, that was what I meant to see the difference. OK, it seems dark text on light background is the wished style. At least from Kay's and your feedback. I will not stress this topic any further as it seems difficult to reach the goal that at least a majority is happy. ;-) For the rest, really impressive improvements! Thanks. And let me add to this that the new analyze.html page is really nice too. Great. For now I'll leave this dev@ mailing list to report download problems. If it gets to many mails then we can re-think this. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 30/05/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote: The both download buttons have now a hover over effect. They are displayed inverted. So, what do think is better as permanent design? - Go back as it was before: Light background, dark border, dark text This is highly subjective, but this version looks nicer. It's a bit confusing to see both buttons change color when one hovers on one of them, so I would be for removing the hovering effect on buttons (still keep it on the outer div) and have them always in the dark text light background version. For the rest, really impressive improvements! Of course there are some unavoidable issues (like Mac-32 Hebrew 4.1.0 recommends 4.0.1 that sends you back to the former choice instead of sending you to the Mac-64 version), but the user experience is better than the current one. I wouldn't offer version 3.4.1 from that page (so keep it as it is). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 06/05/2014 01:03 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 30/05/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote: The both download buttons have now a hover over effect. They are displayed inverted. So, what do think is better as permanent design? - Go back as it was before: Light background, dark border, dark text This is highly subjective, but this version looks nicer. It's a bit confusing to see both buttons change color when one hovers on one of them, so I would be for removing the hovering effect on buttons (still keep it on the outer div) and have them always in the dark text light background version. sure both buttons should react independent of each other. I've fixed this. Regarding the styling, this is indeed really a question of taste. To see the difference maybe better, I've styled both buttons different. @All: Please look again and decide then. I would go with the majority of opinions. For the rest, really impressive improvements! Thanks. Of course there are some unavoidable issues (like Mac-32 Hebrew 4.1.0 recommends 4.0.1 that sends you back to the former choice instead of sending you to the Mac-64 version), but the user experience is better than the current one. Just to let this not uncommented: It is possible to catch also this and other special cases. But it would increase the complexity of the scripting. And I want to avoid this. I wouldn't offer version 3.4.1 from that page (so keep it as it is). I see the argument that it is the last stable release of the 3.x series. So, could make sense to have it in the version list instead of pointing somewhere to the archive. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 06/05/2014 03:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 06/05/2014 01:03 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 30/05/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote: The both download buttons have now a hover over effect. They are displayed inverted. So, what do think is better as permanent design? - Go back as it was before: Light background, dark border, dark text This is highly subjective, but this version looks nicer. It's a bit confusing to see both buttons change color when one hovers on one of them, so I would be for removing the hovering effect on buttons (still keep it on the outer div) and have them always in the dark text light background version. sure both buttons should react independent of each other. I've fixed this. Regarding the styling, this is indeed really a question of taste. To see the difference maybe better, I've styled both buttons different. @All: Please look again and decide then. I would go with the majority of opinions. I'm looking at this page and I hope it's the right version: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html I don't know if there's much benefit to the hovering on the main areas, but I do like the background changes on the individual buttons in the download area. For the rest, really impressive improvements! yes...I know this will solve a lot of our download issues. Thanks. Of course there are some unavoidable issues (like Mac-32 Hebrew 4.1.0 recommends 4.0.1 that sends you back to the former choice instead of sending you to the Mac-64 version), but the user experience is better than the current one. Just to let this not uncommented: It is possible to catch also this and other special cases. But it would increase the complexity of the scripting. And I want to avoid this. I wouldn't offer version 3.4.1 from that page (so keep it as it is). I see the argument that it is the last stable release of the 3.x series. So, could make sense to have it in the version list instead of pointing somewhere to the archive. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Don’t meet your heroes, they’ll only disappoint. -- popular adage - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 06/06/2014 01:10 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 06/05/2014 03:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 06/05/2014 01:03 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 30/05/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote: The both download buttons have now a hover over effect. They are displayed inverted. So, what do think is better as permanent design? - Go back as it was before: Light background, dark border, dark text This is highly subjective, but this version looks nicer. It's a bit confusing to see both buttons change color when one hovers on one of them, so I would be for removing the hovering effect on buttons (still keep it on the outer div) and have them always in the dark text light background version. sure both buttons should react independent of each other. I've fixed this. Regarding the styling, this is indeed really a question of taste. To see the difference maybe better, I've styled both buttons different. @All: Please look again and decide then. I would go with the majority of opinions. I'm looking at this page and I hope it's the right version: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html yes I don't know if there's much benefit to the hovering on the main areas, but I do like the background changes on the individual buttons in the download area. OK, it's just that I need some opinions especially for this as I don't know what's looking better. Marcus For the rest, really impressive improvements! yes...I know this will solve a lot of our download issues. Thanks. Of course there are some unavoidable issues (like Mac-32 Hebrew 4.1.0 recommends 4.0.1 that sends you back to the former choice instead of sending you to the Mac-64 version), but the user experience is better than the current one. Just to let this not uncommented: It is possible to catch also this and other special cases. But it would increase the complexity of the scripting. And I want to avoid this. I wouldn't offer version 3.4.1 from that page (so keep it as it is). I see the argument that it is the last stable release of the 3.x series. So, could make sense to have it in the version list instead of pointing somewhere to the archive. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
I'm doing last fixes and updates. My feeling says the new webpage is nearly finished and ready to go Live. Please have a look and test. I would like to use this as new default download webpage before the weekend. Thanks Marcus Am 05/30/2014 12:03 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): OK, here is another update: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was updated? - Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new. - Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language instead of using the browser-guessed language. - Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download comes from Sourceforge. - Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working. - The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign. - When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a hint text what the alternative is. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. Examples: - Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0 - Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0 - Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1 - When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows, Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not supported and what to do as alternative. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. What is next? - Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release? - Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window. - Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link reporting tool. - Separate code and strings. Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the freedom to translate the text. Testing: - Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready. And still no IE available. :-( But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Do you still have some more suggestions? Thanks :-) Marcus Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working.
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Any comments and opinions about this topic? Thanks Marcus Am 05/30/2014 12:32 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): One more design question. The both download buttons have now a hover over effect. They are displayed inverted. So, what do think is better as permanent design? - Go back as it was before: Light background, dark border, dark text - Go with the new inverted look: Dark background, light border, light text - Leave it as it now, to have both is perfect. Please tell me. :-) Thanks Marcus Am 05/30/2014 12:03 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): OK, here is another update: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was updated? - Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new. - Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language instead of using the browser-guessed language. - Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download comes from Sourceforge. - Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working. - The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign. - When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a hint text what the alternative is. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. Examples: - Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0 - Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0 - Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1 - When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows, Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not supported and what to do as alternative. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. What is next? - Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release? - Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window. - Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link reporting tool. - Separate code and strings. Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the freedom to translate the text. Testing: - Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready. And still no IE available. :-( But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Do you still have some more suggestions? Thanks :-) Marcus Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: I'm doing last fixes and updates. My feeling says the new webpage is nearly finished and ready to go Live. Please have a look and test. I would like to use this as new default download webpage before the weekend. Thanks Marcus Here's something odd -- http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_droplist.html detects my OS correctly -- Linux 32 this one: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html thinks I'm Windows? anyway. assuming things get corrected on this. Yes, definitely ready for prime-time I think. Am 05/30/2014 12:03 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): OK, here is another update: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was updated? - Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new. - Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language instead of using the browser-guessed language. - Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download comes from Sourceforge. - Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working. - The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign. - When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a hint text what the alternative is. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. Examples: - Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0 - Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0 - Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1 - When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows, Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not supported and what to do as alternative. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. What is next? - Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release? - Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window. - Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link reporting tool. - Separate code and strings. Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the freedom to translate the text. Testing: - Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready. And still no IE available. :-( But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Do you still have some more suggestions? Thanks :-) Marcus Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 06/04/2014 12:00 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
I'm doing last fixes and updates. My feeling says the new webpage is
nearly finished and ready to go Live.
Please have a look and test.
I would like to use this as new default download webpage before the
weekend.
Thanks
Marcus
Here's something odd --
http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
detects my OS correctly -- Linux 32
this one:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
thinks I'm Windows?
just a little error for the platform recognition (an if query was
missing {} brackets).
Thanks for the hint. It's now fixed and also my Firefox shows Linux again.
I don't always publish my changes at the end. But now the webpages on
staging and production are the same again.
anyway. assuming things get corrected on this. Yes, definitely ready for
prime-time I think.
Yeah! :-)
Good night see you all tomorrow.
Marcus
Am 05/30/2014 12:03 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
OK, here is another update:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
What was updated?
- Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new.
- Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language
instead of using the browser-guessed language.
- Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download
comes from Sourceforge.
- Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working.
- The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign.
- When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a
hint text what the alternative is.
Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign.
Examples:
- Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0
- Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0
- Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1
- When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows,
Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not
supported and what to do as alternative.
Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign.
What is next?
- Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release?
- Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window.
- Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link
reporting tool.
- Separate code and strings.
Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all
localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the
freedom to translate the text.
Testing:
- Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the
requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready.
And still no IE available. :-(
But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox,
Chrome, Opera and Safari.
Do you still have some more suggestions?
Thanks :-)
Marcus
Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work
(healthy problem):
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
- The [Reset] button is gone.
- Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just
default. ;-)
- Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply
I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is
better suited here.
- The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report
broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible
difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for
different selected values.
Marcus
Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-)
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
What was done:
- Grey box:
- Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness.
- The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data.
- The information link has now a (i) icon.
- Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage.
The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an
additional text link.
(Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as
report function.)
- All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
Now it looks more clean.
- Green box:
- All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only.
- Links:
- I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines.
- In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes.
- Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed.
What is not yet working:
- The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0.
It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every
available build for every release in the past.
- The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe
it's indeed no longer necessary?
What do you think?
What are the next steps:
- Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases.
- Improve the styling of the both
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/05/2014 01:29 AM, schrieb sebb: On 4 May 2014 17:37, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: As an aside, the information page about language packs could perhaps describe how dictionaries compare with language packs. Do language packs include any dictionaries? Or do they just include the text strings used in the application? I found the page quite difficult to follow. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html I've updated the text and added also whats about the dictionaries. I hope it is more clear now. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 05/05/2014 01:29 AM, schrieb sebb: On 4 May 2014 17:37, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: As an aside, the information page about language packs could perhaps describe how dictionaries compare with language packs. Do language packs include any dictionaries? Or do they just include the text strings used in the application? I found the page quite difficult to follow. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html I've updated the text and added also whats about the dictionaries. I hope it is more clear now. Marcus Looking most excellent to me! :) Yes, there's a lot of info, but it's all in one place. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Even a happy life cannot be without a measure of darkness, and the word happy would lose its meaning if it were not balanced by sadness. It is far better (to) take things as they come along with patience and equanimity. -- Carl Jung
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/30/2014 01:50 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/29/2014 04:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/30/2014 12:55 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/29/2014 03:03 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: OK, here is another update: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html I like it! This seems very versatile for us. also see below ... thanks. :-) Please see also my separate mail with a design question. What was updated? - Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new. - Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language instead of using the browser-guessed language. - Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download comes from Sourceforge. - Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working. - The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign. - When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a hint text what the alternative is. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. Examples: - Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0 - Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0 - Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1 - When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows, Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not supported and what to do as alternative. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. What is next? - Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release? - Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window. - Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link reporting tool. - Separate code and strings. Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the freedom to translate the text. Testing: - Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready. I am having some slight formatting issues. Not all text that I think is supposed to fit in the green box is actually IN the green box. Maybe due to my font size preferences or resolution. I will send you a screenshot. Thanks for the screenshot. In the sub-green box between the left and right part of text + links, there has to be some space. If this is not available, the text is wrapped-up. Also the text in the both light-blue boxes on the bottom, the text is wrapped-up. Furthermore the footer text is wrapped-up into 3 lines instead of 2. I can see all problems also with Browsershots.org. There the browser windows are clearly too small. Do you use a smaller screen resolution? My resolution is 1920x1080 The browser window is not full screen? correct...I almost never do full screen Do you have a bigger zoom factor active in the browser? Then use [Ctrl] + [0] (or similar) to normalize. well, my eyes are not the best. So, I have a larger minimize font than a lot of folks I guess. And, I don't want to change that. I'm sure it would look good if the browser window is displayed in full screen. If you want you could test this. Of course you can change it back afterwards. I was hoping this could be helped by some CSS changes, but...maybe not :/ When your screen resolution is 1920x1080 then the browser window is half or 2/3 or 3/4 of full screen. Which is small enough to produce this wrapped-up text. I could try to optimize this, e.g., to enlarge the sub-green box, re-arrange the text or use a smaller font. However, as smaller the window is, as larger the effort will be to make it still look good. Marcus And still no IE available. :-( But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Do you still have some more suggestions? Thanks :-) Marcus Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
To avoid the text wrap in the sub-green box as long as possible, I've moved the links with icon below the 3 text lines and added the checksum verify link also. IMHO this is the best compromise between avoid text wrapping and don't increase size for fonts and boxes. Marcus Am 05/30/2014 12:24 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 05/30/2014 01:50 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/29/2014 04:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/30/2014 12:55 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/29/2014 03:03 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: OK, here is another update: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html I like it! This seems very versatile for us. also see below ... thanks. :-) Please see also my separate mail with a design question. What was updated? - Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new. - Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language instead of using the browser-guessed language. - Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download comes from Sourceforge. - Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working. - The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign. - When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a hint text what the alternative is. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. Examples: - Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0 - Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0 - Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1 - When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows, Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not supported and what to do as alternative. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. What is next? - Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release? - Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window. - Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link reporting tool. - Separate code and strings. Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the freedom to translate the text. Testing: - Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready. I am having some slight formatting issues. Not all text that I think is supposed to fit in the green box is actually IN the green box. Maybe due to my font size preferences or resolution. I will send you a screenshot. Thanks for the screenshot. In the sub-green box between the left and right part of text + links, there has to be some space. If this is not available, the text is wrapped-up. Also the text in the both light-blue boxes on the bottom, the text is wrapped-up. Furthermore the footer text is wrapped-up into 3 lines instead of 2. I can see all problems also with Browsershots.org. There the browser windows are clearly too small. Do you use a smaller screen resolution? My resolution is 1920x1080 The browser window is not full screen? correct...I almost never do full screen Do you have a bigger zoom factor active in the browser? Then use [Ctrl] + [0] (or similar) to normalize. well, my eyes are not the best. So, I have a larger minimize font than a lot of folks I guess. And, I don't want to change that. I'm sure it would look good if the browser window is displayed in full screen. If you want you could test this. Of course you can change it back afterwards. I was hoping this could be helped by some CSS changes, but...maybe not :/ When your screen resolution is 1920x1080 then the browser window is half or 2/3 or 3/4 of full screen. Which is small enough to produce this wrapped-up text. I could try to optimize this, e.g., to enlarge the sub-green box, re-arrange the text or use a smaller font. However, as smaller the window is, as larger the effort will be to make it still look good. Marcus And still no IE available. :-( But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Do you still have some more suggestions? Thanks :-) Marcus Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: -
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/30/2014 06:11 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: To avoid the text wrap in the sub-green box as long as possible, I've moved the links with icon below the 3 text lines and added the checksum verify link also. IMHO this is the best compromise between avoid text wrapping and don't increase size for fonts and boxes. Marcus It's better for me this way. Thanks. I'll send you another png. thanks for the screenshot. Yes, way better. :-) Marcus Am 05/30/2014 12:24 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 05/30/2014 01:50 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/29/2014 04:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/30/2014 12:55 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/29/2014 03:03 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: OK, here is another update: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html I like it! This seems very versatile for us. also see below ... thanks. :-) Please see also my separate mail with a design question. What was updated? - Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new. - Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language instead of using the browser-guessed language. - Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download comes from Sourceforge. - Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working. - The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign. - When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a hint text what the alternative is. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. Examples: - Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0 - Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0 - Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1 - When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows, Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not supported and what to do as alternative. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. What is next? - Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release? - Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window. - Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link reporting tool. - Separate code and strings. Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the freedom to translate the text. Testing: - Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready. I am having some slight formatting issues. Not all text that I think is supposed to fit in the green box is actually IN the green box. Maybe due to my font size preferences or resolution. I will send you a screenshot. Thanks for the screenshot. In the sub-green box between the left and right part of text + links, there has to be some space. If this is not available, the text is wrapped-up. Also the text in the both light-blue boxes on the bottom, the text is wrapped-up. Furthermore the footer text is wrapped-up into 3 lines instead of 2. I can see all problems also with Browsershots.org. There the browser windows are clearly too small. Do you use a smaller screen resolution? My resolution is 1920x1080 The browser window is not full screen? correct...I almost never do full screen Do you have a bigger zoom factor active in the browser? Then use [Ctrl] + [0] (or similar) to normalize. well, my eyes are not the best. So, I have a larger minimize font than a lot of folks I guess. And, I don't want to change that. I'm sure it would look good if the browser window is displayed in full screen. If you want you could test this. Of course you can change it back afterwards. I was hoping this could be helped by some CSS changes, but...maybe not :/ When your screen resolution is 1920x1080 then the browser window is half or 2/3 or 3/4 of full screen. Which is small enough to produce this wrapped-up text. I could try to optimize this, e.g., to enlarge the sub-green box, re-arrange the text or use a smaller font. However, as smaller the window is, as larger the effort will be to make it still look good. Marcus And still no IE available. :-( But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Do you still have some more suggestions? Thanks :-) Marcus Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
OK, here is another update: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was updated? - Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new. - Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language instead of using the browser-guessed language. - Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download comes from Sourceforge. - Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working. - The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign. - When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a hint text what the alternative is. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. Examples: - Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0 - Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0 - Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1 - When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows, Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not supported and what to do as alternative. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. What is next? - Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release? - Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window. - Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link reporting tool. - Separate code and strings. Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the freedom to translate the text. Testing: - Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready. And still no IE available. :-( But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Do you still have some more suggestions? Thanks :-) Marcus Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 05/29/2014 03:03 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: OK, here is another update: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html I like it! This seems very versatile for us. also see below ... What was updated? - Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new. - Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language instead of using the browser-guessed language. - Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download comes from Sourceforge. - Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working. - The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign. - When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a hint text what the alternative is. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. Examples: - Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0 - Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0 - Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1 - When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows, Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not supported and what to do as alternative. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. What is next? - Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release? - Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window. - Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link reporting tool. - Separate code and strings. Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the freedom to translate the text. Testing: - Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready. I am having some slight formatting issues. Not all text that I think is supposed to fit in the green box is actually IN the green box. Maybe due to my font size preferences or resolution. I will send you a screenshot. And still no IE available. :-( But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Do you still have some more suggestions? Thanks :-) Marcus Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/30/2014 12:55 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/29/2014 03:03 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: OK, here is another update: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html I like it! This seems very versatile for us. also see below ... thanks. :-) Please see also my separate mail with a design question. What was updated? - Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new. - Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language instead of using the browser-guessed language. - Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download comes from Sourceforge. - Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working. - The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign. - When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a hint text what the alternative is. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. Examples: - Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0 - Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0 - Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1 - When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows, Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not supported and what to do as alternative. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. What is next? - Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release? - Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window. - Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link reporting tool. - Separate code and strings. Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the freedom to translate the text. Testing: - Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready. I am having some slight formatting issues. Not all text that I think is supposed to fit in the green box is actually IN the green box. Maybe due to my font size preferences or resolution. I will send you a screenshot. Thanks for the screenshot. In the sub-green box between the left and right part of text + links, there has to be some space. If this is not available, the text is wrapped-up. Also the text in the both light-blue boxes on the bottom, the text is wrapped-up. Furthermore the footer text is wrapped-up into 3 lines instead of 2. I can see all problems also with Browsershots.org. There the browser windows are clearly too small. Do you use a smaller screen resolution? The browser window is not full screen? Do you have a bigger zoom factor active in the browser? Then use [Ctrl] + [0] (or similar) to normalize. HTH Marcus And still no IE available. :-( But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Do you still have some more suggestions? Thanks :-) Marcus Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? What are the next steps: - Make the
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 05/29/2014 04:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/30/2014 12:55 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/29/2014 03:03 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: OK, here is another update: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html I like it! This seems very versatile for us. also see below ... thanks. :-) Please see also my separate mail with a design question. What was updated? - Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new. - Using the $NL_LANG variable in index.html will pre-set a language instead of using the browser-guessed language. - Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download comes from Sourceforge. - Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working. - The 2 links with icons got a cursor with help sign. - When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user with a hint text what the alternative is. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. Examples: - Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0 - Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0 - Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1 - When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than Windows, Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not supported and what to do as alternative. Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with not allowed sign. What is next? - Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release? - Updating the Full vs. Langpack text in separate window. - Updating the analyze.html webpage to use it as broken link reporting tool. - Separate code and strings. Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all localized websites, get the same look feel everywhere but with the freedom to translate the text. Testing: - Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready. I am having some slight formatting issues. Not all text that I think is supposed to fit in the green box is actually IN the green box. Maybe due to my font size preferences or resolution. I will send you a screenshot. Thanks for the screenshot. In the sub-green box between the left and right part of text + links, there has to be some space. If this is not available, the text is wrapped-up. Also the text in the both light-blue boxes on the bottom, the text is wrapped-up. Furthermore the footer text is wrapped-up into 3 lines instead of 2. I can see all problems also with Browsershots.org. There the browser windows are clearly too small. Do you use a smaller screen resolution? My resolution is 1920x1080 The browser window is not full screen? correct...I almost never do full screen Do you have a bigger zoom factor active in the browser? Then use [Ctrl] + [0] (or similar) to normalize. well, my eyes are not the best. So, I have a larger minimize font than a lot of folks I guess. And, I don't want to change that. I was hoping this could be helped by some CSS changes, but...maybe not :/ HTH Marcus And still no IE available. :-( But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Do you still have some more suggestions? Thanks :-) Marcus Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 23/05/14 22:23, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/20/2014 09:55 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 05/20/2014 09:27 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 19/05/14 20:58, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/19/2014 09:11 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It's nice! I would say it's almost done. It works correctly for me. Thanks. I got the chance to test on different browsers on Windows 7: - Firefox -- All looks fine, working as expected - IE 10 -- All looks fine, working as expected - Chrome -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen - Opera -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen And I've no clue for now how it looks like on Firefox and Safari on OS X. mmh, the drop down boxes have still different height and look not so good on Firefox http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/Firefox_downloadbox.png That's strange as with Firefox on Windows and Linux it's fine. And Safari has of course other problems with the button below the boxes http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/Safari_downloadbox.png That looks quite similar to what I've seen with Chrome and Opera. Therefore hopefully the same root cause. I think, it was the same. I've changed one thing in the JS to output the text. And now it works. Tested (via Browsershots.org) with Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera on Linux, Windows, Mac. Unfortunately, there was no IE available. Can someone of you test this please? it looks now ok on Firefox on Mac Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Marcus (OOo) wrote: [...] http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/ index_droplist.html [...] Unfortunately, there was no IE available. Can someone of you test this please? Win, IE10 – looks fine; Win, Chrome – almost fine: missing triangle buttons from select boxes, so people can't distinguish they can choose something else. Great work, Marcus, Tal
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/26/2014 04:34 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel: On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Marcus (OOo) wrote: [...] http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/ index_droplist.html [...] Unfortunately, there was no IE available. Can someone of you test this please? Win, IE10 – looks fine; Great. Win, Chrome – almost fine: missing triangle buttons from select boxes, so people can't distinguish they can choose something else. I've already added a respective text directly above the select boxes - hoping that it's OK for the moment. Great work, Marcus, Thanks for your feedback. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/26/2014 10:25 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 23/05/14 22:23, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/20/2014 09:55 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 05/20/2014 09:27 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 19/05/14 20:58, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/19/2014 09:11 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It's nice! I would say it's almost done. It works correctly for me. Thanks. I got the chance to test on different browsers on Windows 7: - Firefox -- All looks fine, working as expected - IE 10 -- All looks fine, working as expected - Chrome -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen - Opera -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen And I've no clue for now how it looks like on Firefox and Safari on OS X. mmh, the drop down boxes have still different height and look not so good on Firefox http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/Firefox_downloadbox.png That's strange as with Firefox on Windows and Linux it's fine. And Safari has of course other problems with the button below the boxes http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/Safari_downloadbox.png That looks quite similar to what I've seen with Chrome and Opera. Therefore hopefully the same root cause. I think, it was the same. I've changed one thing in the JS to output the text. And now it works. Tested (via Browsershots.org) with Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera on Linux, Windows, Mac. Unfortunately, there was no IE available. Can someone of you test this please? it looks now ok on Firefox on Mac thanks, that's good to know as I have no idea why this could be different with Firefox on Linux and Mac. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/20/2014 09:55 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 05/20/2014 09:27 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 19/05/14 20:58, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/19/2014 09:11 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It's nice! I would say it's almost done. It works correctly for me. Thanks. I got the chance to test on different browsers on Windows 7: - Firefox -- All looks fine, working as expected - IE 10 -- All looks fine, working as expected - Chrome -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen - Opera -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen And I've no clue for now how it looks like on Firefox and Safari on OS X. mmh, the drop down boxes have still different height and look not so good on Firefox http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/Firefox_downloadbox.png That's strange as with Firefox on Windows and Linux it's fine. And Safari has of course other problems with the button below the boxes http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/Safari_downloadbox.png That looks quite similar to what I've seen with Chrome and Opera. Therefore hopefully the same root cause. I think, it was the same. I've changed one thing in the JS to output the text. And now it works. Tested (via Browsershots.org) with Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera on Linux, Windows, Mac. Unfortunately, there was no IE available. Can someone of you test this please? Thanks Marcus So, sorry, but I fear there is some more work needed. Maybe, to simplify it further, I would remove the 32-bit from Windows since we are not offering anything else for Windows; so users won't be confused. Done And I can select things like OS X 32-bit, English US, 4.1.0 which do not exist (but the download correctly converts it and gives me the 64-bit version). The version thing is the last bigger stuff to add. Up to then only files from the 4.1.0 release will be offered as download. ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 19/05/14 20:58, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/19/2014 09:11 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It's nice! I would say it's almost done. It works correctly for me. Thanks. I got the chance to test on different browsers on Windows 7: - Firefox -- All looks fine, working as expected - IE 10-- All looks fine, working as expected - Chrome -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen - Opera-- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen And I've no clue for now how it looks like on Firefox and Safari on OS X. mmh, the drop down boxes have still different height and look not so good on Firefox http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/Firefox_downloadbox.png And Safari has of course other problems with the button below the boxes http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/Safari_downloadbox.png Juergen So, sorry, but I fear there is some more work needed. Maybe, to simplify it further, I would remove the 32-bit from Windows since we are not offering anything else for Windows; so users won't be confused. Done And I can select things like OS X 32-bit, English US, 4.1.0 which do not exist (but the download correctly converts it and gives me the 64-bit version). The version thing is the last bigger stuff to add. Up to then only files from the 4.1.0 release will be offered as download. ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/20/2014 09:27 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 19/05/14 20:58, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/19/2014 09:11 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It's nice! I would say it's almost done. It works correctly for me. Thanks. I got the chance to test on different browsers on Windows 7: - Firefox -- All looks fine, working as expected - IE 10-- All looks fine, working as expected - Chrome -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen - Opera-- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen And I've no clue for now how it looks like on Firefox and Safari on OS X. mmh, the drop down boxes have still different height and look not so good on Firefox http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/Firefox_downloadbox.png That's strange as with Firefox on Windows and Linux it's fine. And Safari has of course other problems with the button below the boxes http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/Safari_downloadbox.png That looks quite similar to what I've seen with Chrome and Opera. Therefore hopefully the same root cause. Marcus So, sorry, but I fear there is some more work needed. Maybe, to simplify it further, I would remove the 32-bit from Windows since we are not offering anything else for Windows; so users won't be confused. Done And I can select things like OS X 32-bit, English US, 4.1.0 which do not exist (but the download correctly converts it and gives me the 64-bit version). The version thing is the last bigger stuff to add. Up to then only files from the 4.1.0 release will be offered as download. ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/20/2014 12:33 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Hi, On 19.05.2014 20:58, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/19/2014 09:11 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It's nice! I would say it's almost done. It works correctly for me. Thanks. I got the chance to test on different browsers on Windows 7: - Firefox -- All looks fine, working as expected - IE 10 -- All looks fine, working as expected - Chrome -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen - Opera -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen And I've no clue for now how it looks like on Firefox and Safari on OS X. Try www.browsershots.org? Sure but I have made the experience that not all combinations are available (e.g., Mac browsers are completely missing) or the request expiring very fast. However, a few minutes I could see that Firefox 29 is OK on Mac 10.8. But with Safari 7.0.3 on Mac 10.8 all text below the select boxes is missing. Marcus So, sorry, but I fear there is some more work needed. Maybe, to simplify it further, I would remove the 32-bit from Windows since we are not offering anything else for Windows; so users won't be confused. Done And I can select things like OS X 32-bit, English US, 4.1.0 which do not exist (but the download correctly converts it and gives me the 64-bit version). The version thing is the last bigger stuff to add. Up to then only files from the 4.1.0 release will be offered as download. ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 05/18/2014 03:47 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus This is looking pretty good! I like it a lot! Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases. After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your further comments and suggestions. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. Thanks Marcus Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the most need more time. Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free days are coming. :-) Marcus Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Marcus (OOo) wrote: This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It's nice! I would say it's almost done. It works correctly for me. Maybe, to simplify it further, I would remove the 32-bit from Windows since we are not offering anything else for Windows; so users won't be confused. And I can select things like OS X 32-bit, English US, 4.1.0 which do not exist (but the download correctly converts it and gives me the 64-bit version). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/19/2014 09:11 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It's nice! I would say it's almost done. It works correctly for me. Thanks. I got the chance to test on different browsers on Windows 7: - Firefox -- All looks fine, working as expected - IE 10-- All looks fine, working as expected - Chrome -- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen - Opera-- No text in DL links but they work OK, incomplete text in sub-green, no links besides the both little icons, doesn't change when different items were chosen And I've no clue for now how it looks like on Firefox and Safari on OS X. So, sorry, but I fear there is some more work needed. Maybe, to simplify it further, I would remove the 32-bit from Windows since we are not offering anything else for Windows; so users won't be confused. Done And I can select things like OS X 32-bit, English US, 4.1.0 which do not exist (but the download correctly converts it and gives me the 64-bit version). The version thing is the last bigger stuff to add. Up to then only files from the 4.1.0 release will be offered as download. ;-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work (healthy problem): http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html - The [Reset] button is gone. - Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look feel is, hm, just default. ;-) - Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it simply I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text button is better suited here. - The icons and links for full install vs. langpack info and Report broken link were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for different selected values. Marcus Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases. After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your further comments and suggestions. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. Thanks Marcus Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the most need more time. Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free days are coming. :-) Marcus Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/07/2014 02:20 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-)
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
What was done:
- Grey box:
- Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness.
I would recommend styling the select boxes, here is an example of how CSS
can style them:
http://bavotasan.com/2011/style-select-box-using-only-css/
The code should be something like the following:
div class=styled-select
select
...
/div
and the css:
#lang #os, #ver {
background: transparent; width: 268px;
padding: 5px; font-size: 16px;
line-height: 1; border: 0;
border-radius: 0;
height: 34px; -webkit-appearance: none;
}
thanks for your design suggestion and example. I'll add this to the
todo-list.
Marcus
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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/06/2014 02:24 AM, schrieb sebb: On 5 May 2014 20:00, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 05/05/2014 01:29 AM, schrieb sebb: On 4 May 2014 17:37, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. +1 - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. +1 - The information link has now a (i) icon. Looks better, but the hover text has gone. It was useful... I get the text What is the difference between full installation and language pack? when hovering the mouse over the (i) icon. Have you done something different? I get hover text for the download and report links, but not for the (i). This applies to Firefox and Opera 12.17 on WinXP, and Firefox on OS X (Mavericks) I did a test with IE10 and there is also no hover text. I've now added text to the respective element. Chrome shows the (i) hover, but the download and report texts are missing - I only see the (i) and the link icon. Still the same when changing a value of a drop-down box? This will trigger a new creation of download links. I do see the download hovers if the mouse is moved over the blank space to the left of the (i) The drop-downs are correctly preset, but there is no info in the light green box. These will be set together with the download links. This is true for Chrome on WinXP and OS/X, and for Safari and Opera 20.0 on OS/X [I think Opera 20 is based on Chrome] IE8/WinXP is completely broken; no content in the drop-down boxes and no download or report text. So none of the Win/XP or OS/X browsers are fully working for me. Hm, that's not good. Need to work on this. Thanks Marcus - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. I clicked on the report button. The test page that appears needs to have some introductory text to tell users what to do. Yes, like I wrote right below. ;-) For the moment it's just to see that something is working. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. I think the download links could be more descriptive (there's plenty of room) - e.g. Download full installation package (including language pack) and Download language add-on pack only This is were I need some help *what* to write - text or button or both or something else ... So, thanks for your suggestion. As an aside, the information page about language packs could perhaps describe how dictionaries compare with language packs. Do language packs include any dictionaries? Or do they just include the text strings used in the application? I found the page quite difficult to follow. OK, I will improve the text. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? The reset button could be dropped. OK Thanks for your feedback. Marcus What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 7 May 2014 00:10, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 05/06/2014 02:24 AM, schrieb sebb: On 5 May 2014 20:00, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 05/05/2014 01:29 AM, schrieb sebb: On 4 May 2014 17:37, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. +1 - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. +1 - The information link has now a (i) icon. Looks better, but the hover text has gone. It was useful... I get the text What is the difference between full installation and language pack? when hovering the mouse over the (i) icon. Have you done something different? I get hover text for the download and report links, but not for the (i). This applies to Firefox and Opera 12.17 on WinXP, and Firefox on OS X (Mavericks) I did a test with IE10 and there is also no hover text. I've now added text to the respective element. Firefox (WinXP/Mavericks) now shows the hover text, so is working fully. Opera (12.1/WinXP) also shows hover text so is now fully working Chrome shows the (i) hover, but the download and report texts are missing - I only see the (i) and the link icon. Still the same when changing a value of a drop-down box? This will trigger a new creation of download links. Changing the drop-down selection does change the hover texts for the Download install and Download langpack links However the fixed text Download ... does not appear, and the (I) is shifted left. I do see the download hovers if the mouse is moved over the blank space to the left of the (i) The drop-downs are correctly preset, but there is no info in the light green box. These will be set together with the download links. They are not populated when I change the dropdown contents, though the invisible download hover texts do change. This is true for Chrome on WinXP and OS/X, and for Safari and Opera 20.0 on OS/X [I think Opera 20 is based on Chrome] IE8/WinXP is completely broken; no content in the drop-down boxes and no download or report text. So none of the Win/XP or OS/X browsers are fully working for me. Hm, that's not good. Need to work on this. Should we start a new e-mail thread? This is getting tricky to follow with all the quoted text. Or perhaps some other medium might be easier to use, e.g. Bugzilla? Thanks Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-)
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
What was done:
- Grey box:
- Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness.
I would recommend styling the select boxes, here is an example of how CSS
can style them:
http://bavotasan.com/2011/style-select-box-using-only-css/
The code should be something like the following:
div class=styled-select
select
...
/div
and the css:
#lang #os, #ver {
background: transparent; width: 268px;
padding: 5px; font-size: 16px;
line-height: 1; border: 0;
border-radius: 0;
height: 34px; -webkit-appearance: none;
}
- The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data.
- The information link has now a (i) icon.
- Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage.
The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an
additional text link.
(Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as
report function.)
- All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
Now it looks more clean.
- Green box:
- All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only.
- Links:
- I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines.
- In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes.
- Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed.
What is not yet working:
- The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0.
It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every
available build for every release in the past.
- The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe
it's indeed no longer necessary?
What do you think?
What are the next steps:
- Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases.
- Improve the styling of the both download links.
- Combine the both green boxes.
- And further suggestions from you.
Thanks in advance for testing. :-)
Marcus
Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
I've done some further work.
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
What is working:
- Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack.
- Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack.
- When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get
to a help text for full install vs. langpack.
- Some release data is shown like in the green box.
What is not yet working:
- The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how
it could work (likely).
- I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working.
What are the next steps:
- Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right
hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if
not needed here, etc.
In general, this should result in a clean-up.
- Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases.
After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your
further comments and suggestions.
So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment.
Thanks
Marcus
Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
Thanks a lot for your input.
A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice
order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the
most need more time.
Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0
release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free
days are coming. :-)
Marcus
Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
Hi all,
while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
problem:
- Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
- Downloading a different file than the offered is not
Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but
has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.
Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main
download webpage:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html
Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not
the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.
For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes
and the then created links below them.
What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general?
Or do you have complete different thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
Marcus
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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/05/2014 01:29 AM, schrieb sebb: On 4 May 2014 17:37, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. +1 - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. +1 - The information link has now a (i) icon. Looks better, but the hover text has gone. It was useful... I get the text What is the difference between full installation and language pack? when hovering the mouse over the (i) icon. Have you done something different? - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. I clicked on the report button. The test page that appears needs to have some introductory text to tell users what to do. Yes, like I wrote right below. ;-) For the moment it's just to see that something is working. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. I think the download links could be more descriptive (there's plenty of room) - e.g. Download full installation package (including language pack) and Download language add-on pack only This is were I need some help *what* to write - text or button or both or something else ... So, thanks for your suggestion. As an aside, the information page about language packs could perhaps describe how dictionaries compare with language packs. Do language packs include any dictionaries? Or do they just include the text strings used in the application? I found the page quite difficult to follow. OK, I will improve the text. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? The reset button could be dropped. OK Thanks for your feedback. Marcus What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases. After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your further comments and suggestions. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. Thanks Marcus Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the most need more time. Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free days are coming. :-) Marcus Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 5 May 2014 20:00, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 05/05/2014 01:29 AM, schrieb sebb: On 4 May 2014 17:37, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. +1 - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. +1 - The information link has now a (i) icon. Looks better, but the hover text has gone. It was useful... I get the text What is the difference between full installation and language pack? when hovering the mouse over the (i) icon. Have you done something different? I get hover text for the download and report links, but not for the (i). This applies to Firefox and Opera 12.17 on WinXP, and Firefox on OS X (Mavericks) Chrome shows the (i) hover, but the download and report texts are missing - I only see the (i) and the link icon. I do see the download hovers if the mouse is moved over the blank space to the left of the (i) The drop-downs are correctly preset, but there is no info in the light green box. This is true for Chrome on WinXP and OS/X, and for Safari and Opera 20.0 on OS/X [I think Opera 20 is based on Chrome] IE8/WinXP is completely broken; no content in the drop-down boxes and no download or report text. So none of the Win/XP or OS/X browsers are fully working for me. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. I clicked on the report button. The test page that appears needs to have some introductory text to tell users what to do. Yes, like I wrote right below. ;-) For the moment it's just to see that something is working. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. I think the download links could be more descriptive (there's plenty of room) - e.g. Download full installation package (including language pack) and Download language add-on pack only This is were I need some help *what* to write - text or button or both or something else ... So, thanks for your suggestion. As an aside, the information page about language packs could perhaps describe how dictionaries compare with language packs. Do language packs include any dictionaries? Or do they just include the text strings used in the application? I found the page quite difficult to follow. OK, I will improve the text. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? The reset button could be dropped. OK Thanks for your feedback. Marcus What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases. After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your further comments and suggestions. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. Thanks Marcus Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 05/03/2014 11:10 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It is progressing very nicely! What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. If I select Windows, Italian, 4.1.0 the MD5 checksum link is broken: http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.1/binaries/it/ Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe.md5 (note: 4.0.1 in first part of URL, 4.1.0 in second part) right, all checksum links were broken as the wrong base URL to Apache Dist was used. Fixed now. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. The two download buttons should then be styled appropriately (classic green button), since they are not very visible now. But as you said, all graphic style can be reviewed. And indeed we could replace the green box entirely, by just pre-filling the selection with guessed values. Yes, this will be the final result. Then we can look at the design. This is looking very good and working pretty well for me. I can't wait to see the final outcome! :) Ok, one little suggestion. I think it would be nice to have the Sourceforge icon actually used in the top green DL box instead of off to the side -- with a link to Sourceforge from that. Maybe we could get a slightly smaller version? one more comment below... I like the idea of an icon for explanations, but I would use an information sign (circled i) there rather than the question mark, which seems to explain an error. OK, I will change it. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). Indeed, selecting Mac OS X 32-bit offers 4.1.0 too, but I think this is under control. Luckily it's the 64-bit file that is offered. ;-) But, yes, as soon as the version selection is working, this exception has to be tested. - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. Works fine for me, I tested with Firefox. Thanks So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. I would remove the Reset button too. It is useless (except for our tests!) and it looks too much like something the visitor should click upon just after selecting the version... Really? I'm pretty sure that the today's Internet users know what happens when clicking on a button with the name Reset which is positioned directly below such input and control fields. So, let's see what others think. I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the Reset button either. Maybe remove it ? OK, tested with Firefox 29...all good with my Linux-32 setup. Good job and thanks for all your work on this. Thanks for your input. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. - The information link has now a (i) icon. - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases. After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your further comments and suggestions. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. Thanks Marcus Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the most need more time. Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free days are coming. :-) Marcus Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/04/2014 06:33 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 05/03/2014 11:10 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It is progressing very nicely! What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. If I select Windows, Italian, 4.1.0 the MD5 checksum link is broken: http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.1/binaries/it/ Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe.md5 (note: 4.0.1 in first part of URL, 4.1.0 in second part) right, all checksum links were broken as the wrong base URL to Apache Dist was used. Fixed now. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. The two download buttons should then be styled appropriately (classic green button), since they are not very visible now. But as you said, all graphic style can be reviewed. And indeed we could replace the green box entirely, by just pre-filling the selection with guessed values. Yes, this will be the final result. Then we can look at the design. This is looking very good and working pretty well for me. I can't wait to see the final outcome! :) Thanks :-) Another comment for the [Reset] button below. Ok, one little suggestion. I think it would be nice to have the Sourceforge icon actually used in the top green DL box instead of off to the side -- with a link to Sourceforge from that. Maybe we could get a slightly smaller version? one more comment below... I like the idea of an icon for explanations, but I would use an information sign (circled i) there rather than the question mark, which seems to explain an error. OK, I will change it. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). Indeed, selecting Mac OS X 32-bit offers 4.1.0 too, but I think this is under control. Luckily it's the 64-bit file that is offered. ;-) But, yes, as soon as the version selection is working, this exception has to be tested. - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. Works fine for me, I tested with Firefox. Thanks So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. I would remove the Reset button too. It is useless (except for our tests!) and it looks too much like something the visitor should click upon just after selecting the version... Really? I'm pretty sure that the today's Internet users know what happens when clicking on a button with the name Reset which is positioned directly below such input and control fields. So, let's see what others think. I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the Reset button either. Maybe remove it ? Now that I've combined the functionalities select your favorite build and pre-filled with browser guessed values I also think it's no longer needed - and gives some more space for 2 new download buttons. OK, tested with Firefox 29...all good with my Linux-32 setup. Good job and thanks for all your work on this. Weekend is over, so next updates take more time. So, stay tuned. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 4 May 2014 17:37, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-) http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What was done: - Grey box: - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness. +1 - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data. +1 - The information link has now a (i) icon. Looks better, but the hover text has gone. It was useful... - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage. I clicked on the report button. The test page that appears needs to have some introductory text to tell users what to do. The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an additional text link. (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as report function.) - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean. - Green box: - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box. Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only. - Links: - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines. - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes. - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed. I think the download links could be more descriptive (there's plenty of room) - e.g. Download full installation package (including language pack) and Download language add-on pack only As an aside, the information page about language packs could perhaps describe how dictionaries compare with language packs. Do language packs include any dictionaries? Or do they just include the text strings used in the application? I found the page quite difficult to follow. What is not yet working: - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0. It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every available build for every release in the past. - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe it's indeed no longer necessary? What do you think? The reset button could be dropped. What are the next steps: - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases. - Improve the styling of the both download links. - Combine the both green boxes. - And further suggestions from you. Thanks in advance for testing. :-) Marcus Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases. After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your further comments and suggestions. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. Thanks Marcus Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the most need more time. Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free days are coming. :-) Marcus Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe,
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Marcus (OOo) wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It is progressing very nicely! What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. If I select Windows, Italian, 4.1.0 the MD5 checksum link is broken: http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.1/binaries/it/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe.md5 (note: 4.0.1 in first part of URL, 4.1.0 in second part) - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. The two download buttons should then be styled appropriately (classic green button), since they are not very visible now. But as you said, all graphic style can be reviewed. And indeed we could replace the green box entirely, by just pre-filling the selection with guessed values. I like the idea of an icon for explanations, but I would use an information sign (circled i) there rather than the question mark, which seems to explain an error. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). Indeed, selecting Mac OS X 32-bit offers 4.1.0 too, but I think this is under control. - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. Works fine for me, I tested with Firefox. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. I would remove the Reset button too. It is useless (except for our tests!) and it looks too much like something the visitor should click upon just after selecting the version... Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/03/2014 04:05 AM, schrieb sebb: How about presetting the fields according to the autodetected values, where possible? actually I've planned this when the green and grey box will be combined but ... Then if the auto-detection works for some of the fields it will reduce the work for the user. Also if the autodetection works, but the user wants to download for a differnt OS or language it also reduces the work. ... this is reasonable enough to implement it in the grey box first. Also for our tests so far. Will try to set this up. BTW, it might perhaps be worth adding a link to the screen so people can report auto-detection failures. This could be a ? link like the What is the difference between full install ... but instead invites the user to visit the browser detection test page. Do you mean this page? http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html If so, then yes, could be. On OS X Safari and Chrome auto-detect as US English. Then it could already help to get 2 outputs from the page above. ;-) Please would you? Just copy paste the table without formatting as plain text. Only Firefox correctly detects as British English In all 3 cases the OS type is correctly recognised. Great. :-) Thanks for your comment. Marcus On 2 May 2014 23:41, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases. After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your further comments and suggestions. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. Thanks Marcus Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the most need more time. Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free days are coming. :-) Marcus Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 05/03/2014 11:10 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html It is progressing very nicely! What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. If I select Windows, Italian, 4.1.0 the MD5 checksum link is broken: http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.1/binaries/it/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe.md5 (note: 4.0.1 in first part of URL, 4.1.0 in second part) right, all checksum links were broken as the wrong base URL to Apache Dist was used. Fixed now. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. The two download buttons should then be styled appropriately (classic green button), since they are not very visible now. But as you said, all graphic style can be reviewed. And indeed we could replace the green box entirely, by just pre-filling the selection with guessed values. Yes, this will be the final result. Then we can look at the design. I like the idea of an icon for explanations, but I would use an information sign (circled i) there rather than the question mark, which seems to explain an error. OK, I will change it. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). Indeed, selecting Mac OS X 32-bit offers 4.1.0 too, but I think this is under control. Luckily it's the 64-bit file that is offered. ;-) But, yes, as soon as the version selection is working, this exception has to be tested. - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. Works fine for me, I tested with Firefox. Thanks So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. I would remove the Reset button too. It is useless (except for our tests!) and it looks too much like something the visitor should click upon just after selecting the version... Really? I'm pretty sure that the today's Internet users know what happens when clicking on a button with the name Reset which is positioned directly below such input and control fields. So, let's see what others think. Thanks for your input. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 3 May 2014 10:30, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 05/03/2014 04:05 AM, schrieb sebb: How about presetting the fields according to the autodetected values, where possible? actually I've planned this when the green and grey box will be combined but ... Then if the auto-detection works for some of the fields it will reduce the work for the user. Also if the autodetection works, but the user wants to download for a differnt OS or language it also reduces the work. ... this is reasonable enough to implement it in the grey box first. Also for our tests so far. Will try to set this up. BTW, it might perhaps be worth adding a link to the screen so people can report auto-detection failures. This could be a ? link like the What is the difference between full install ... but instead invites the user to visit the browser detection test page. Do you mean this page? http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html If so, then yes, could be. On OS X Safari and Chrome auto-detect as US English. Then it could already help to get 2 outputs from the page above. ;-) Please would you? Just copy paste the table without formatting as plain text. Looks like the problem is that Chrome and Safari return navigator.language = en-us AFAICT they don't pick up the OS X language setting. It looks like the recommended way to detect the language is to use the Accept-Language header. The navigator.language property appears to relate to the browser code rather than the OS on which it runs. I downloaded the enGB version of Firefox, but Safari was pre-installed and I did not get a choice with Chrome. Only Firefox correctly detects as British English In all 3 cases the OS type is correctly recognised. Great. :-) Thanks for your comment. Marcus On 2 May 2014 23:41, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases. After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your further comments and suggestions. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. Thanks Marcus Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the most need more time. Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free days are coming. :-) Marcus Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases. After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your further comments and suggestions. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. Thanks Marcus Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the most need more time. Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free days are coming. :-) Marcus Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
How about presetting the fields according to the autodetected values, where possible? Then if the auto-detection works for some of the fields it will reduce the work for the user. Also if the autodetection works, but the user wants to download for a differnt OS or language it also reduces the work. BTW, it might perhaps be worth adding a link to the screen so people can report auto-detection failures. This could be a ? link like the What is the difference between full install ... but instead invites the user to visit the browser detection test page. On OS X Safari and Chrome auto-detect as US English. Only Firefox correctly detects as British English In all 3 cases the OS type is correctly recognised. On 2 May 2014 23:41, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: I've done some further work. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html What is working: - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack. - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack. - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get to a help text for full install vs. langpack. - Some release data is shown like in the green box. What is not yet working: - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how it could work (likely). - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working. What are the next steps: - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if not needed here, etc. In general, this should result in a clean-up. - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases. After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your further comments and suggestions. So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment. Thanks Marcus Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the most need more time. Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free days are coming. :-) Marcus Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On 4/28/14 12:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Thanks. I do like this idea. It's very straightforward. I think this might be better integrated if this new area could be placed directly under the found version in the green box. Maybe with some slightly smaller styling. And, looking at what else we have going on here, and the information in the lower lighter green box, I would suggest we move Release Notes as the top item under Documentation and move Source Code and SDK, Portable and USB ports and Legacy versions to Additional Resources. (well some of these items are already there really but maybe need to be reworded.) This way the top darker green box would display the version found for the user along with the new drop down and the lighter box underneath would only contain signature and hashes info. I like the idea in general as well and Kay provided some good ideas already to improve the structure. We should use the drop down boxes to for older releases as well. Means a further drop down box where the user can select the version, default is always the latest and greatest. For example for 4.1 we can drop the 32 bit version for Mac to avoid confusion. The link 'Get all platforms, languages, language packs' can be potentially removed completely if we allow the selection of the product. Juergen What do others think? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Hi, On 28.04.2014 10:38, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 4/28/14 12:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Thanks. I do like this idea. It's very straightforward. I think this might be better integrated if this new area could be placed directly under the found version in the green box. Maybe with some slightly smaller styling. And, looking at what else we have going on here, and the information in the lower lighter green box, I would suggest we move Release Notes as the top item under Documentation and move Source Code and SDK, Portable and USB ports and Legacy versions to Additional Resources. (well some of these items are already there really but maybe need to be reworded.) This way the top darker green box would display the version found for the user along with the new drop down and the lighter box underneath would only contain signature and hashes info. I like the idea in general as well and Kay provided some good ideas already to improve the structure. We should use the drop down boxes to for older releases as well. Means a further drop down box where the user can select the version, default is always the latest and greatest. For example for 4.1 we can drop the 32 bit version for Mac to avoid confusion. The link 'Get all platforms, languages, language packs' can be potentially removed completely if we allow the selection of the product. +1 from my side for the general idea of the proposal. Kay's and Jürgen's suggestions also make sense. Best regards, Oliver. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On Sun, Apr 27, Marcus wrote: [...] I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not [...] Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/ index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel [...] this can and will be improved for sure. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Looks nice and more compact, Marcus. In addition to Kay's suggestions, I'd like to suggest to drop the [redundant] line Click here to download for: in the green box, and the line Choose an OS, then the language in the gray box, which you suggested; we can solve it at a programmable way (e.g. disable 2nd drop-down until 1st drop-down has a valid selection). Also, the gray box could appear only after clicking Get a different version, which stands for other version, language, or OS. Great work :)
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? I like it. In fact, I wonder if we could just replace the green box with this UI, pre-populating the drop down list boxes with our best guess of what the user wants? -Rob Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 12:19:20 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? I like it. In fact, I wonder if we could just replace the green box with this UI, pre-populating the drop down list boxes with our best guess of what the user wants? -Rob Thanks in advance. Marcus The grey box should have an explicit reference to the version number (4.0.1 in this case) -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 04/28/2014 06:25 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 12:19:20 -0400 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? I like it. In fact, I wonder if we could just replace the green box with this UI, pre-populating the drop down list boxes with our best guess of what the user wants? -Rob Thanks in advance. Marcus The grey box should have an explicit reference to the version number (4.0.1 in this case) Right, for the moment I've added this into the headline. Lets see how this can be kept after some redesigns. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 04/28/2014 06:19 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? I like it. In fact, I wonder if we could just replace the green box with this UI, pre-populating the drop down list boxes with our best guess of what the user wants? And I like this idea. However, I would like to finish first a separate color box to have something working - as I expect some difficulties to combine both. But I will keep this great idea for version 2.0. Thanks Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 04/28/2014 12:29 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Thanks. I do like this idea. It's very straightforward. I think this might be better integrated if this new area could be placed directly under the found version in the green box. Maybe with some slightly smaller styling. You mean to combine both boxes, like suggested by Rob? And, looking at what else we have going on here, and the information in the lower lighter green box, I would suggest we move Release Notes as the top item under Documentation and move Source Code and SDK, Portable and USB ports and Legacy versions to Additional Resources. (well some of these items are already there really but maybe need to be reworded.) For sure, the many links below the green box need a clean-up. I'll note this for doing after the drop-boxes are ready. This way the top darker green box would display the version found for the user along with the new drop down and the lighter box underneath would only contain signature and hashes info. What do others think? Yes, sounds good. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 04/28/2014 10:38 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 4/28/14 12:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Thanks. I do like this idea. It's very straightforward. I think this might be better integrated if this new area could be placed directly under the found version in the green box. Maybe with some slightly smaller styling. And, looking at what else we have going on here, and the information in the lower lighter green box, I would suggest we move Release Notes as the top item under Documentation and move Source Code and SDK, Portable and USB ports and Legacy versions to Additional Resources. (well some of these items are already there really but maybe need to be reworded.) This way the top darker green box would display the version found for the user along with the new drop down and the lighter box underneath would only contain signature and hashes info. I like the idea in general as well and Kay provided some good ideas already to improve the structure. We should use the drop down boxes to for older releases as well. Means a further drop down box where the user can select the version, default is always the latest and greatest. Sounds good. A more comfortable selector for archived versions. But then we need a strong commitment to keep the download structure and naming unique - to avoid to script exceptions just because versions are named and placed slightly different. ;-) For example for 4.1 we can drop the 32 bit version for Mac to avoid confusion. The link 'Get all platforms, languages, language packs' can be potentially removed completely if we allow the selection of the product. Absolutely, should be the main target for this new UI. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 04/28/2014 06:00 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel: On Sun, Apr 27, Marcus wrote: [...] I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not [...] Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/ index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel [...] this can and will be improved for sure. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Looks nice and more compact, Marcus. In addition to Kay's suggestions, I'd like to suggest to drop the [redundant] line Click here to download for: in the green box, and the line Choose an OS, then the language in the gray box, which you This sounds like you suggest to combine the green and grey box. Do I understand it right? suggested; we can solve it at a programmable way (e.g. disable 2nd drop-down until 1st drop-down has a valid selection). Yes, will try to do this. Also, the gray box could appear only after clicking Get a different version, which stands for other version, language, or OS. This link was not often seen in the past - at least we got several questions how to get other builds. So, to be honest, I would doubt that the grey box would be then seen by all users. ;-) Great work :) Thanks Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On Mon, Apr 28, Marcus wrote: Am 04/28/2014 06:00 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel: [...]Looks nice and more compact, Marcus. [...] I'd like to suggest to drop the [redundant] line Click here to download for: in the green box, and the line Choose an OS, then the language in the gray box, which you added ... This sounds like you suggest to combine the green and grey box. Do I understand it right? No, just thought to remove texts that are too trivial/obvious. Combining the boxes, as others suggest, could work too, if you're afraid that people won't find the download other versions link. Tal
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Am 04/28/2014 10:30 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel: On Mon, Apr 28, Marcus wrote: Am 04/28/2014 06:00 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel: [...]Looks nice and more compact, Marcus. [...] I'd like to suggest to drop the [redundant] line Click here to download for: in the green box, and the line Choose an OS, then the language in the gray box, which you added ... This sounds like you suggest to combine the green and grey box. Do I understand it right? No, just thought to remove texts that are too trivial/obvious. Combining the boxes, as others suggest, could work too, if you're afraid that people won't find the download other versions link. Ah, understood, I added this because I thought of the opposite. ;-) And to make clear to first choose an OS, then a language because it didn't worked the other way around. But I've removed it for now. As suggested I can try to activate the next droplist only when the previous one is filled. Then the text is indeed no longer needed. Regarding the text in the green box, this should be kept as I've recently added (hosted by Sourceforge.net) [1]. This is to make sure that the users know that the download finally comes not from an OpenOffice or Apache server but by our hosting partner Sourceforge. I would like to give this a try for some weeks to see if we still get complains or not. [1] See the mail tread Adding from SourceForge to download page a few days ago) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
Thanks a lot for your input. A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the most need more time. Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0 release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free days are coming. :-) Marcus Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Hi all, while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term problem: - Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy - Downloading a different file than the offered is not Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex. Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main download webpage: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html Please don't look too close to look feel - sure the grey color is not the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure. For now please have a look for the functionality via the drop-down boxes and the then created links below them. What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in general? Thanks. I do like this idea. It's very straightforward. I think this might be better integrated if this new area could be placed directly under the found version in the green box. Maybe with some slightly smaller styling. And, looking at what else we have going on here, and the information in the lower lighter green box, I would suggest we move Release Notes as the top item under Documentation and move Source Code and SDK, Portable and USB ports and Legacy versions to Additional Resources. (well some of these items are already there really but maybe need to be reworded.) This way the top darker green box would display the version found for the user along with the new drop down and the lighter box underneath would only contain signature and hashes info. What do others think? Or do you have complete different thoughts? Thanks in advance. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller
