Re: Migration of dia-list to GNOME Discourse instance
Greetings, Olav Vitters via dia-list! > Dear subscribers, > Please cc me on replies. CC whom? The list is set in such a way that it blanks the original sender. And no, I don't have a habit of "replying to all" in public mailing lists. I reply to the list, if you CBA to subscribe, I can't be any more helpful to deal with you personally. > We've set up https://discourse.gnome.orga year and a half ago, as part of > an attempt at making the GTK mailing list more friendly to newcomers. This > experiment seems to have proven itself well enough, and has since expanded > to other territories as well. As such, we believe it is time to make the > same switch for most of our mailing lists. I prefer all my daily feeds in one nice interface. Not in a ton of different interfaces each with their own caveats. Not to mention, I don't have nearly enough RAM to keep yet another browser tab open just to get prompt delivery of the news feed. I have my mail server which is more than capable of playing fetch. > This means that this mailing list will be archived in favour of continued > discussion at GNOME's Discourse instance. No need to worry that this will > mess with your workflow: it is still possible to get notifications by email > by subscribing to the appropriate tags and/or posts. You can also still > reply by e-mail if you prefer. Just like before, it's also possible to > receive a general weekly digest. > The proposed closure of this mailing list will be on: Oct 30th, 2020 > As a subscriber of this mailing list please create an account on > https://discourse.gnome.org/. It's unfortunately not possible to > automatically migrate the existing subscribers to Discourse. In case you > wonder what will happen to the current mailing list after the closure date: > the archives will remain public though you won't be able to subscribe or > send emails to the current list. > For dia-list the new discussions would take place in the Applications > category on Discourse using the 'dia' tag. Unfortunately creating a new > thread with a dia tag is not possible at this time, the following link can > be used: > https://discourse.gnome.org/new-topic?category=Applications=dia, anyone > can respond once a topic is created. > For further information on Discourse, please see the following topics: > https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46 > https://discourse.gnome.org/t/tags-and-watching/94 > Finally, feel welcome to say hi by introducing yourself over at > https://discourse.gnome.org/t/say-hello-thread/! > On behalf of the Discourse migration volunteers. So, you failed to configure the mailing list properly and opted to use something entirely different instead? I wonder, what's wrong with Sourceware, Samba or postfix.org, if they are still using mailing lists today. After 30+ years. > Cheers, > Olav -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Wednesday, October 21, 2020 2:04:35 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: How to compile dia on windows using Visual Studio
Greetings, Zander Brown! >> I would prefer Cygwin. >> Even with the downsides of the platform, this may be a easier >> building experience. > Your free to use whatever you want, but Mark asked about Visual Studio > and MSYS2 is run in CI so is known to work (well it at least builds) Makes sense. Thank you. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Monday, October 12, 2020 14:19:34 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: How to compile dia on windows using Visual Studio
Greetings, Zander Brown! > We only support meson (since maintaining multiple build systems is asking for > trouble imo) but > meson can be used with VS - > https://mesonbuild.com/Using-with-Visual-Studio.html - so you > could give that a go. > If it works it would be great to get it running in CI to make sure it keeps > working > The alternative (which I know works) is to build with GCC in MSYS2 I would prefer Cygwin. Even with the downsides of the platform, this may be a easier building experience. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Monday, October 12, 2020 12:51:33 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: size in DIA
Greetings, Horst Michels via dia-list! > The size of icons, letters, pointer are very small and hardly readable. How > can I set them to become readable? Check your X server settings, if you mean the Dia *interface*. Else - zoom in the worksheet. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Tuesday, September 8, 2020 17:18:31 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Dynamic Grid Lines not working
Greetings, AMOSAF Archives via dia-list! > My question probably should have been is how can I > print to one page File - Page setup. Look for "Scaling" option. Change it until your entire diagram fit to a single canvas. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Friday, July 17, 2020 22:53:46 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Which UML-Standard does DIA use?
Greetings, s_re...@gmx.de! > Which UML-Standard does DIA use? It doe snot "use" anything per se, it may model their available UML shapes per some unknown standard. If you are missing out, you can model any shapes you want, literally. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Saturday, March 21, 2020 1:46:29 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Dia Graph Mirror or Flip Objects Question
Greetings, Michael Sinclair! > Hello all that this may concern, > I am trying to flip or mirror selected objects over an axis (such as a > vertical axis). Is this possible using this program? No, but it is quite easy to create a new object from the one you desire. > My internet research is not turning up anything, so I figured I would reach > out to Dia's creators. Hope this is alright! Dia shapes are essentially SVG images with little wrapping. Should be quite easy to make a clone and edit to your heart's content. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Thursday, August 29, 2019 23:41:41 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Dia development info
Greetings, Alejandro Imass! > Is it too crazy to take the core values of DIA and think about a > collaborative and/or Web-based version? You can't run web-based version locally on your system. Not to mention, all the limitations of such a version. > Lucidcharts is very rapidly spreading and there doesn't seem to be an open > source of free software alternative. An Open Source collaborative diagraming > tool that could also produce code (like dia2code) I think would be a way to > revive this. If not a pure-web version, at least think about the way Apple > Productivity tools have done it: native apps, that allow real-time > collaboration AND also provides a Web component for people that are non-Mac > users. > For mainstream use, collaboration and the seamless integration with other > widely used tools such as Attlasian Confluence is essential. The concept of > stand-alone desktop tools is rapidly fading, at least IMHO. If all YOU see around yourself is web apps, that doesn't mean everybody is. My only daily web app is GitHub, the rest is local, standalone applications, which are way more useful, than any web would-be-replacement could ever be. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Tuesday, August 13, 2019 21:24:39 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: local & absolute path
Greetings, Pizzacoca! > I am including images from a single folder in my .dia. > I also want to share that folder with the .dia in it with others ( tar vfcz ) > But the absolute path make some job to redefine the .dia after each > import. (we do not use the dame folders) If images are in [a subdirectory of] current directory of the diagram file, paths WILL BE relative to the diagram file. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Saturday, July 6, 2019 19:10:34 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: local & absolute path
Greetings, Pizzacoca! > Yes I mean relative. > I tried to work with the custom shape by following these pages > file:///usr/share/doc/dia/html/fr/ch11s05.html > But apparently I do not understand how it work. Do I have to create a > custom shape for each image then try to import it in a main .dia in the > same folder ? > (I want to create a .dia with all its images) So, wait. You want to create new shapes or you want to include images into your diagram? -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Saturday, July 6, 2019 12:17:20 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Dia internals and PDF import
Greetings, Liel Fridman via dia-list! > As some of you may know, I'm working on the PDF import plugin. > The glib API supports rendering to a cairo context, which I don't know how > to get, and whether it's available in Dia. I also found the import renderer, > but it is not intended to be used for that as far as I can tell. > Any suggestions on how to continue from here? Wait, are you trying to import PDF into Dia? In which a way? -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Thursday, July 4, 2019 16:26:13 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Unable to run Dia on iMac
Greetings, Ralph Tindell via dia-list! > I have I tried a fresh install of Dia on my iMac and have a recurring > problem. First of all, XQuartz 2.7.11 is installed. Secondly, the folder > /Applications/Dia.app/Contents/MacOS is empty, which seems weird to me. > Finally, when I execute /Applications/Dia.app/Contents/Resources/bin/dia I > get the following error: > Ralphs-iMac:bin ralph$ ./dia > Warning: AppleCollationOrder setting not found, using AppleLocale. > Setting Language: en.UTF8 > (process:71973): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library > (process:71973): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. > Using the fallback 'C' locale. > (dia-bin:71973): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: > /private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.x81Gh3JDGu/org.macosforge.xquar Try $ LANG=en_US.UTF-8 $ export LANG $ /Applications/Dia.app/Contents/Resources/bin/dia -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Thursday, June 13, 2019 10:45:54 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: I don't find my shapes in Dia.
Greetings, Sunah Yu! > I've managed to import the "Test sheet" you provided me and can see it > in Dia. Unfortunately I have never created SVG files so I can barely > imagine how to proceed. > 1. Do I use Dia itself to create the shape I need or an external program > (like Inkscape which is, as far as I understood, for creating vectorized > pictures)? Yes, you can save shapes directly from Dia. But, frankly speaking, the quality of them would be less than ideal. > 2. You told me to create "shapes" and "sheets" directories in ~/.dia/ > directory: Where are the other shapes coming with Dia and why do I have > to place my own shapes here? It's in the Dia documentation. User's shapes are placed in the user's profile directory. System shapes coming with Dia, you don't have to be concerned about them. > 3. Related to your provided template: What is the "relation" between > ~/.dia/sheets/Test.sheet and ~/.dia/shapes/Test/test.shape (how do the > files work together)? By the shape name exclusively. Dia scans the entirety of "shapes" directory, then look for "sheets" and match what it find in the sheets back to the shapes. > The only file I understand is ~/.dia/shapes/Test/test.png which shows > your template. Heh. Heh. > Sorry for all these questions but this is my first time using free > software for a more complex task at my university. Source somebody with XML/SVG knowledge to create necessary shapes for you. Shouldn't be that hard in the university environment. Other than that, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/dia/raw/master/doc/custom-shapes -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Monday, June 10, 2019 1:30:48 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: I don't find my shapes in Dia.
Greetings, Sunah Yu! > Hello Andrey, thank you for helping me. > Best Wishes, > Sunah > On 6/9/19 6:44 PM, Andrey Repin via dia-list wrote: >> Greetings, Sunah Yu! >> >>> Hello, I am trying to draw a process flowsheet with Dia. >>> I want to draw shapes which you can see in attached image. >>> But I don't find any of them and even nothing similar to them in shapes >>> documentation[1]. >>> Does somebody of you know how can I solve this problem? >> >> Do you want to create your own shapes or looking for some existing shapes >> that >> fill your requirements? > I am looking for some existing shapes. It doesn’t need not be exactly > same as in the image but I expect some certain similarity with them. If > there isn’t any shapes for me, then I thinking about to draw myself with > basic geometric shapes (line, circle , Rectangle etc.) in Dia. If you know just a little about SVG, it would be quite easy to write your own shapes by hands. I can provide a template. Just grab the attached archive, unpack it, and move the "shapes" and "sheets" directories into your ~/.dia/ directory. Then launch Dia and look for "Test sheet". -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Sunday, June 9, 2019 20:10:27 Sorry for my terrible english...<> ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: I don't find my shapes in Dia.
Greetings, Sunah Yu! > Hello, I am trying to draw a process flowsheet with Dia. > I want to draw shapes which you can see in attached image. > But I don't find any of them and even nothing similar to them in shapes > documentation[1]. > Does somebody of you know how can I solve this problem? Do you want to create your own shapes or looking for some existing shapes that fill your requirements? -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Sunday, June 9, 2019 19:31:15 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: (1) Rotating drawings in dia, (2) virtual protractor for dia
Greetings, rhkramer--- via dia-list! > I'm planning to make a new stand for my monitor (to get it as close to my desk > as possible to relieve my neck ;-). The existing stand leans forward by about > 1.5 degrees. I need to cut an angle brace to support the upright with that > 1.5 degree forward lean. That's fine, but I fail to see, how it is related to Dia. It's not a CAD program. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Wednesday, May 15, 2019 0:36:42 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Connection points
Greetings, John Bale via dia-list! > Hello, > As a user of both visio and dia I would like if I may, to provide some > comments that may prove helpful. > (1) The single biggest drawback of dia is the limited number of connection > points on key shapes. You can add as many connection points, as you feel necessary. > The image shape is a great way to import any SVG image. But, for complex > charts the user may need to clearly show multiple connections to a shape > thereby avoiding ambiguity. There are only 4 such connection points on that > tool. To myself, imported images have too many unneeded(unwanted!) connection points. > Creation of custom shapes works. But, I have found that text insertion > fails after adding several connection points. Which is spooky behavior. An example would help illustrate your problem. > (2) A secondary issue more in the nice to have category, is the crossing of > connection lines. This may be unavoidable and to avoid confusion a “bump” in > the crossing point would be a nice touch. However, from a coding point of > view this may be tricky to implement. Yes, that was always a suggestion, but never implemented to my knowledge. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Wednesday, May 1, 2019 13:56:32 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: New user of Dia, but rather experimented in use of such tools, I have some questions about organization and Dia soft
Greetings, Bernard TREMBLAY! > Hi, > I had sent previously once this message, but I think that my account > was not validated yet. > > This is quite identical, I have just added one new problem found > yesterday. > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/dia-list/2019-February/msg0.html -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Sunday, February 17, 2019 14:39:31 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: 190212 Use of Dia - Export Question
Greetings, Peter Hallewell! > I have recently downloaded diaw.exe 0.97.2, onto a Windows 10 laptop. I’ve > created a flowchart and have exported this to WMF file. Do you have a special requirements for it being a low-use, mostly unknown to the wide audience, underspecified WMF file? Why not use JPEG, PNG or SVG ? > I have looked through the software, help file and help lists, to see if > there are any settings I need to change, in order to get a good resolution > WMF file. > However, I have been unsuccessful. I get the same issue if I export as a > JPEG. This may indicate that the real size of your diagram is very, very small. You can get layout lines (blue) to appear to see how your diagram is laid on paper, which should give you a hint of initial real size. The rest is left to the diagram scaling. > The information contained in this document, email, attachment, or Please remove this garbage from list mails. Beside it being a spam-filter trigger, the list is archived publicly and you knew it full well before posting. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Wednesday, February 13, 2019 0:25:31 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Meson build: status update
Greetings, Eduard Nicodei via dia-list!
> Just wanted to give a quick update on the meson build port:
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/dia/merge_requests/14
Thanks!
> I've tested it on Windows 10 with MSYS,
...
> The Windows build caused some problems, but I've ported all plug-ins,
> including the Python integration. The only exception is the wmf plug-in:
> currently its compilation fails with "W32::std::abs - not found". This
> happens when including window.h in the following snippet of code
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/neduard/dia/blob/meson_port/plug-ins/wmf/paginate_gdiprint.cpp#L48
> namespace W32 {
> // can't
> // #define WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN
> // because we need stuff like PRINTDLG
> #include
> }
This may indicate an error in header files.
> I don't know how many people use this plug-in and thus have left it as such
> for the time being. I don't have much experience with Windows.h so if
> anybody can help identifying why the issue is happening, that would be much
> appreciated!
May be try the Cygwin mingw64 cross-compiler?
> 2. Windows distribution
> Due to the interest in upgrading the Windows installer (
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/dia/issues/22 ), I have tried to package the
> binaries into an archive to allow easy redistribution. I hope this will be
> helpful if we want (re-)create the NSIS installer? I have created a few
> archives and been keeping track of it on my fork:
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/neduard/dia/issues/3 Archives are signed with my
> key (F623017FC5900C39) but they are slightly out-dated (they do not have
> Cairo or Python enabled). I will create newer ones once the branch is ready.
I'd prefer standard MSI for easy distribution.
--
With best regards,
Andrey Repin
Sunday, January 13, 2019 18:57:00
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Re: My two cents about DIA
Greetings, Philip Troy! > I have run into issues with dia in the past where the resulting diagrams > look "funny" because I cannot make connections between objects where I want > the connections to be. If these were procedurally generated objects, I can understand it. For static shapes, you can always clone interesting shapes and add or move connection points as you wish. > If I remember correctly, dia tends to increase the size of objects when it > needs to to fit text. It would be helpful just to be able to set the size > of the object and to turn off auto-resizing. Yes, that's one of the issues with current Dia. But also this is an issue with people trying to write essay inside an action UML block. > I tried creating multi-page objects like those in the uml page and was not > able to. I believe that these were hard coded. It would be very helpful to > be able to build one's own custom shapes that are sophisticated. These are procedurally generated. Not currently possible by the end user. Sadly. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Saturday, December 8, 2018 0:14:09 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: My two cents about DIA
Greetings, Philip Troy! > > Make it easier to add more connection points so that diagram objects can be > better lined up wat > > Make it possible to control the size of an object Already possible. May be except procedurally generated objects, I did not work with these yet. > > Make it easier to build custom objects like those used for the UML objects Already quite easy, if you don't care about quality. Just create Dia drawing and save it as .shape. > > I would like to use DIA for simple UML diagrams but I find it very hard to > customize these objects as they seem to be hardcoded. If you want dynamic shapes, then yes, plugin API could be improved. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Thursday, December 6, 2018 13:49:25 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: What's wrong with Dia the way it is?
Greetings, Steve Litt! > What's wrong with Dia just the way it is? It works. It's exportable > into Inkscape for conversion to SVG. "It works" is the most you can say about it. When you start to actually USE it, you immediately discover different small annoyances, the more - the deeper you dive. Even its SVG export (which is supposed to be its primary use outside itself) is a dirty mess. > Sure, I have a few qualms with the way Dia works, mainly having to do > with the relationship between text and shapes, but perhaps some good > workaround documentation would settle that. We'd all (I think I can safely say that) would prefer to have a program where you don't have to use workarounds for things you do daily. > I'd love to have Visio-quality diagram components, It's largely possible already, you can design any types of shapes. But the in-program treatment is a little bit lacking, and you won't see the results until export. > and perhaps if somebody writes some docs on how to make your own components > with the connection points *you* want, that will be solved. Basically - SVG. All high-quality shapes are hand-made. > Plus the fact that if everyone authoring new components puts them together > in an online hierarchical library, perhaps with keyword search, our diagrams > could start to rival those of visio users. That's a separate project, and, by the way, such a repository exists (or it was, at one point). > If some of the libraries used by Dia are in the process of being > deprecated, then those certainly must be replaced by their successors. > But other than that, why the emphasis on maintenance? Replacing the whole program UI is not a fingersnap activity. And THAT is what needs a replacement, as the UI library used by Dia is not supported for a decade. > Sometimes something's so good it needs no more maintenance (fetchmail is one > example). Even fetchmail requires regular maintenance, as new protocols take place. > Right now Dia works for people on all sorts of computers. Barely works. For me at least. > It's very DIYable. My experience has been that in many cases, people in a > hurry to "improve" software end up making it into a buggy, DIY-not-allowed > monolithic entanglement. It would require to rewrite Dia entirely to rip out things that build it. I doubt anybody want to take on such task. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Thursday, December 6, 2018 3:32:42 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia
Greetings, Alejandro Imass! > Just for reference: > https://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2016/08/17/a-quick-look-at-using-jsx-in-gnome/ > So why not think in this direction or node-gtk or something along these > lines and get some fresh blood in here. > Not so "shit" now, eh? I was forced to switch to Chrome-based browser - there's simply no other browsers exist nowadays, if you don't take IE into account. I use VS Code daily. I need 2 GB RAM upfront just to start either, starting both is 4 GB already, and it quickly grows into 10-15 GB range as you work. Anything but a stationary system simply unsuitable to use them. In the contrast, I can use Dia on my netbook with just 2 GB RAM comfortable. And not just starting and closing. The diagram I'm working with contains 1336 objects. All it takes is… about 70 MB RAM. Two orders of magnitude less than anything you can name. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Wednesday, December 5, 2018 16:14:41 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia
Greetings, Eduard Nicodei via dia-list! > The reason why I have used Dia in the past is that I could not find any > other solution for the following requirements: > - be fully offline (draw.io & co fail this - plus I'm not trusting them with > any work-sensitive material!) > - is free, open source and is not controlled by a company (yEd fails this - > also OmniGraffle, Enterprise Architect, Visual Paradigm, etc) > - simple, does not require learning a new language (graphviz and any other > text->UML tools fail this) > - lightweight, but still fairly rich in features (libreoffice draw fails the > lightweight requirement) > - offers a simple interface which is very easy to pick up (I tried > Inkscape, but for whatever reason I was never able to get working as fast as > I could in Dia) > - portable: works on Windows (my main requirement), *BSDs and maybe others. - customizable by the end-user. Every single other program I know fails this. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Tuesday, December 4, 2018 17:51:27 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Maintaining / Helping out on Dia
Greetings, Alejandro Imass! > IMHO maybe a fork is required to take DIA to the next level and separate it > from GNOME even if you decide to keep using GTK and move to 3 or whatever. > More than the actual graphics library I would look into taking the things > that are really valuable from the current code and perhaps think of a > complete re-write with React, Anguar, Ember or whatever. I would get out of > XML and go to JSON and re-write the app into a React front-end with a > corresponding backend and API. IMHO the greatest long term existential > threat to DIA is not Visio or Omnigraffle, it's draw.io Sounds so much NIH, I don't even want to start arguing. XML (specifically SVG) is a solid base. You can do wonders with it, all that is needed is an improvement in rendering (handling) of shapes. There's very little need to be changed, only moved forward in the basically same direction it has been always moving. All your fancy "Angular, React, and shit" are just overgrown, uncontrollable shit. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Monday, December 3, 2018 21:31:34 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Connection Points
Greetings, Wes Weber via dia-list! > Is there a way to add/delete connection points from an object? Yes, although you would have to create your own object to do that. The connection points are defined in the .shape file, in section. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Wednesday, November 14, 2018 20:45:05 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: feedback
Greetings, Baddesleyvia dia-list! > I have recently started using Dia and I like it a lot (I’ve used Visio in > the past), but it does seem to have a lot of bugs. There are a lot of > improvements that could be made as well, some I have listed below: > > 1. When I open a saved diagram, it is often ‘off screen’ and is only > visible by scrolling up. Surely it should open in the position it was saved > in. As has been said, this means you have an item at the given coordinates, that Dia is positioning to. > 2. When I add a new item (box, text etc.), many, or all of the other items > already on the page ‘disappear’ until I click around the screen to get them > back. This seems to be unrelated to Dia itself, try checking your desktop manager configuration/update drivers/reduce acceleration by a notch. > 3. Why can I not set and save a default location for files – I don’t want > them saved in Dia or Windows directories. Aside from setting default working directory for a shortcut, you can add Dia template file to the Explorer templates, and create new files before starting Dia. > 4. Also, why can I not change the default text font or size? It is annoying > to have to change this every time I add text, as the default is far too big! Tck. You definitely can. Ask how, instead of complaining that you can't. > 5. Why can’t I scroll ‘off screen’ Panning work area is done with middle mouse button. Also there's a minimap locator at the bottom-right of the work area. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Monday, October 15, 2018 11:26:30 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Dia Flowchart
Greetings, Benjamin Cooper via dia-list! > I have installed Ver. 0.97.2 on my Windows 10 laptop for evaluation > purposes. The Help topics are in .chm file format which I cannot open. Define "cannot open" please? > Please advise? Win10 should open CHM natively. If it requires unblocking, you may find the button if you view file properties in the explorer. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Friday, August 24, 2018 11:30:09 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: DIAW.exe question
Greetings, Jim Holstein! > Hi > I am an experienced VISIO and new DIA user. > I am quite impressed with your DIA software - fine work! > > > After using Diaw.exe for a few weeks I have 2 questions on v0.97.2: > > > [1] I am trying to COPY some objects from layer 1 to a new layer 2 that I > have NOT grouped beforehand. > SOMETIMES it pastes the objects to the left, other times it properly > positions the objects on 2 so they perfectly overlay the position on layer > 1. What determines the paste positioning? When copy between layers, first paste happens on top of copied object position. Perhaps you unintentionally inserting the object twice, then the subsequently pasted objects will be added with offset. > I suspect on the LAYERS sidebar has something to do with this, however I > have not found the explanation for that symbol on any of the HELP > documentation. This is a link anchor permit. Layers indicated with this option will accept anchoring when objects are moved. F.e. I'm often placing all the objects into one layer, and all the links into another. > [2] When I paste a selection of objects that were copied using > SHIFT-CLICK, I would like to MOVE that bunch using the arrow keys. They > paste-in as a selected bunch but don't respond to the arrow keys. If I > GROUP those items first, then this works fine - I'm just wondering if there > is a way to do this without grouping them first? It is definitely possible to move ungrouped selected objects with arrow keys, but I'm not sure what is the problem with moving after paste. May be try and force mode change to cursor first. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:16:18 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
