Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread bradh
Patrick,

 

Please don’t misunderstand – I’m happy that NASA does great things with open 
source.

 

I did have a quick look at the difference on the GeoTools GeoPackage fork, and 
it looks like there are some useful fixes in GeoTools that WWSK doesn’t have, 
and some fixes in WWSK that GeoTools doesn’t have.

 

It’s up to those that write the code to decide whether to contribute back to 
upstream projects (with all that this entails – legal issues, workload, long 
term intent), and when. I think it would be great to get the fixes and 
improvements into the upstream projects. Clearly that can’t happen without 
Contributor License Agreements in place, but after that, you can propose 
improvements and PRs as for any other contributor (just like me).

 

Brad

 

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 10:46 AM
To: br...@frogmouth.net
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions' 
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Brad,

 

As I tried to make clear from the beginning, we are very glad to contribute, by 
providing ^supported^ access to our experience going down the GeoPackage road. 
We just need someone else taking the lead. If our experience, on full display, 
can be of help, we are most glad to coordinate in that contribution. 

 

Everything the NASA WorldWind project has developed since 2002, has all been 
open source. Before there was a Goog Earth there was NASA WorldWind. And I 
might add, it was born of the NASA Learning Technologies program, entirely 
focused on Education. 

 

Unfortunately, we simply cannot take the lead on ^smartly^ bringing our 
GeoPackage work into GeoServer. But we are glad to coordinate with someone 
capable and interested enough to do that. AS they say, it takes a village. :)

 

-Patrick

 

From: br...@frogmouth.net   
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:53 PM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

OK. So the answer to my original question of " Can I ask if there are any plans 
to contribute back the forked geoserver and geotools parts?” that NASA does not 
currently plan to do so. 

 

I’m sure the GeoServer and GeoTools communities would be happy to work with you 
(see http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html  and 
http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html) 
when you’re ready.

 

Thanks for your continuing support for open source.

 

Brad

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 9:40 AM
To: br...@frogmouth.net  
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'  >
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Brad,

 

Life is work! We have not suggested “changes. . .just be taken from WWSK.” 

 

We have done quite a bit of work to get GeoPackage working with GeoServer. I 
believe it is good work. 

 

We are glad to work with someone who would like to take the lead in benefitting 
from our experience and incorporating the best of that into GeoServer.

 

We are quite occupied and focused in other areas, all open source. And though 
we are glad to help GeoServer benefit from what we have learned, we are unable 
to take the lead in that exercise. 

 

So, if this is of interest, great! If not, that’s fine too. We are simply 
offering the opportunity for someone appropriately qualified and interested, to 
work with NASA and benefit GeoServer. 

 

-Patrick

(650) 604-5656 (o)

(650) 269-2788 (c)

 

From:   br...@frogmouth.net [ 
 mailto:br...@frogmouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:18 PM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Just so we’re clear – the geopackage stuff in WWSK is a fork of (i.e. copy 
from) the community modules in geotools and geoserver. For example, see  

 
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit/blob/develop/worldwind-gs-geopkg/src/test/java/gov/nasa/worldwind/gs/geopkg/GeoPackageGetMapOutputFormatTest.java

 

Some changes have been made (including rebranding the Java namespaces). Clearly 
the changes can’t just be taken from WWSK, as noted in the OSGeo links in Ian’s 
email.

 

I just hadn’t seen any communication or PRs, and wondered if that was the 
intent. I’m a bit surprised by the wording in your email though – if you have 
contributions, then why not just propose them like other contributors do?

 

Brad

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [  
mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Brad,

As I tried to make clear from the beginning, we are very glad to contribute, by 
providing ^supported^ access to our experience going down the GeoPackage road. 
We just need someone else taking the lead. If our experience, on full display, 
can be of help, we are most glad to coordinate in that contribution.

Everything the NASA WorldWind project has developed since 2002, has all been 
open source. Before there was a Goog Earth there was NASA WorldWind. And I 
might add, it was born of the NASA Learning Technologies program, entirely 
focused on Education.

Unfortunately, we simply cannot take the lead on ^smartly^ bringing our 
GeoPackage work into GeoServer. But we are glad to coordinate with someone 
capable and interested enough to do that. AS they say, it takes a village. ☺

-Patrick

From: br...@frogmouth.net [mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:53 PM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

OK. So the answer to my original question of " Can I ask if there are any plans 
to contribute back the forked geoserver and geotools parts?” that NASA does not 
currently plan to do so.

I’m sure the GeoServer and GeoTools communities would be happy to work with you 
(see http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html  and 
http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html) 
when you’re ready.

Thanks for your continuing support for open source.

Brad

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 9:40 AM
To: br...@frogmouth.net
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions' 
>
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

Brad,

Life is work! We have not suggested “changes. . .just be taken from WWSK.”

We have done quite a bit of work to get GeoPackage working with GeoServer. I 
believe it is good work.

We are glad to work with someone who would like to take the lead in benefitting 
from our experience and incorporating the best of that into GeoServer.

We are quite occupied and focused in other areas, all open source. And though 
we are glad to help GeoServer benefit from what we have learned, we are unable 
to take the lead in that exercise.

So, if this is of interest, great! If not, that’s fine too. We are simply 
offering the opportunity for someone appropriately qualified and interested, to 
work with NASA and benefit GeoServer.

-Patrick
(650) 604-5656 (o)
(650) 269-2788 (c)

From: br...@frogmouth.net 
[mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:18 PM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

Just so we’re clear – the geopackage stuff in WWSK is a fork of (i.e. copy 
from) the community modules in geotools and geoserver. For example, see 
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit/blob/develop/worldwind-gs-geopkg/src/test/java/gov/nasa/worldwind/gs/geopkg/GeoPackageGetMapOutputFormatTest.java

Some changes have been made (including rebranding the Java namespaces). Clearly 
the changes can’t just be taken from WWSK, as noted in the OSGeo links in Ian’s 
email.

I just hadn’t seen any communication or PRs, and wondered if that was the 
intent. I’m a bit surprised by the wording in your email though – if you have 
contributions, then why not just propose them like other contributors do?

Brad

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 3:21 AM
To: Ian Turton >
Cc: br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions 
>
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

Our GeoPackage work to facilitate that via GeoServer is extensive and carefully 
architected. And we’ve discovered some other good things that would certainly 
advance GeoServer.
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit

NASA is prepared to work with someone close to GeoServer for these features and 
improvements to be ‘folded-in.’ We are glad to coordinate with a most 
appropriate person who would take the lead in that effort.

-Patrick

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread bradh
OK. So the answer to my original question of " Can I ask if there are any plans 
to contribute back the forked geoserver and geotools parts?” that NASA does not 
currently plan to do so. 

 

I’m sure the GeoServer and GeoTools communities would be happy to work with you 
(see http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html  and 
http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html) 
when you’re ready.

 

Thanks for your continuing support for open source.

 

Brad

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 9:40 AM
To: br...@frogmouth.net
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions' 
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Brad,

 

Life is work! We have not suggested “changes. . .just be taken from WWSK.” 

 

We have done quite a bit of work to get GeoPackage working with GeoServer. I 
believe it is good work. 

 

We are glad to work with someone who would like to take the lead in benefitting 
from our experience and incorporating the best of that into GeoServer.

 

We are quite occupied and focused in other areas, all open source. And though 
we are glad to help GeoServer benefit from what we have learned, we are unable 
to take the lead in that exercise. 

 

So, if this is of interest, great! If not, that’s fine too. We are simply 
offering the opportunity for someone appropriately qualified and interested, to 
work with NASA and benefit GeoServer. 

 

-Patrick

(650) 604-5656 (o)

(650) 269-2788 (c)

 

From:   br...@frogmouth.net [ 
 mailto:br...@frogmouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:18 PM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Just so we’re clear – the geopackage stuff in WWSK is a fork of (i.e. copy 
from) the community modules in geotools and geoserver. For example, see  

 
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit/blob/develop/worldwind-gs-geopkg/src/test/java/gov/nasa/worldwind/gs/geopkg/GeoPackageGetMapOutputFormatTest.java

 

Some changes have been made (including rebranding the Java namespaces). Clearly 
the changes can’t just be taken from WWSK, as noted in the OSGeo links in Ian’s 
email.

 

I just hadn’t seen any communication or PRs, and wondered if that was the 
intent. I’m a bit surprised by the wording in your email though – if you have 
contributions, then why not just propose them like other contributors do?

 

Brad

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [  
mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 3:21 AM
To: Ian Turton <  ijtur...@gmail.com>
Cc:   br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions < 
 discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Our GeoPackage work to facilitate that via GeoServer is extensive and carefully 
architected. And we’ve discovered some other good things that would certainly 
advance GeoServer. 

  
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit

 

NASA is prepared to work with someone close to GeoServer for these features and 
improvements to be ‘folded-in.’ We are glad to coordinate with a most 
appropriate person who would take the lead in that effort. 

 

-Patrick

 

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Brad,

Life is work! We have not suggested “changes. . .just be taken from WWSK.”

We have done quite a bit of work to get GeoPackage working with GeoServer. I 
believe it is good work.

We are glad to work with someone who would like to take the lead in benefitting 
from our experience and incorporating the best of that into GeoServer.

We are quite occupied and focused in other areas, all open source. And though 
we are glad to help GeoServer benefit from what we have learned, we are unable 
to take the lead in that exercise.

So, if this is of interest, great! If not, that’s fine too. We are simply 
offering the opportunity for someone appropriately qualified and interested, to 
work with NASA and benefit GeoServer.

-Patrick
(650) 604-5656 (o)
(650) 269-2788 (c)

From: br...@frogmouth.net [mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:18 PM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

Just so we’re clear – the geopackage stuff in WWSK is a fork of (i.e. copy 
from) the community modules in geotools and geoserver. For example, see 
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit/blob/develop/worldwind-gs-geopkg/src/test/java/gov/nasa/worldwind/gs/geopkg/GeoPackageGetMapOutputFormatTest.java

Some changes have been made (including rebranding the Java namespaces). Clearly 
the changes can’t just be taken from WWSK, as noted in the OSGeo links in Ian’s 
email.

I just hadn’t seen any communication or PRs, and wondered if that was the 
intent. I’m a bit surprised by the wording in your email though – if you have 
contributions, then why not just propose them like other contributors do?

Brad

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 3:21 AM
To: Ian Turton >
Cc: br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions 
>
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

Our GeoPackage work to facilitate that via GeoServer is extensive and carefully 
architected. And we’ve discovered some other good things that would certainly 
advance GeoServer.
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit

NASA is prepared to work with someone close to GeoServer for these features and 
improvements to be ‘folded-in.’ We are glad to coordinate with a most 
appropriate person who would take the lead in that effort.

-Patrick

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread bradh
Just so we’re clear – the geopackage stuff in WWSK is a fork of (i.e. copy 
from) the community modules in geotools and geoserver. For example, see 
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit/blob/develop/worldwind-gs-geopkg/src/test/java/gov/nasa/worldwind/gs/geopkg/GeoPackageGetMapOutputFormatTest.java

 

Some changes have been made (including rebranding the Java namespaces). Clearly 
the changes can’t just be taken from WWSK, as noted in the OSGeo links in Ian’s 
email.

 

I just hadn’t seen any communication or PRs, and wondered if that was the 
intent. I’m a bit surprised by the wording in your email though – if you have 
contributions, then why not just propose them like other contributors do?

 

Brad

 

From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 3:21 AM
To: Ian Turton 
Cc: br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions 
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

 

Our GeoPackage work to facilitate that via GeoServer is extensive and carefully 
architected. And we’ve discovered some other good things that would certainly 
advance GeoServer. 

  
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit

 

NASA is prepared to work with someone close to GeoServer for these features and 
improvements to be ‘folded-in.’ We are glad to coordinate with a most 
appropriate person who would take the lead in that effort. 

 

-Patrick

 

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Ian,

Got some deadlines these next couple days, hopefully our team will get to your 
request later this week.

But it is all there to see on the Github website, with the primary effort being 
an ‘easy install’ of GeoServer and ‘great packaging’ of GeoPackage. ☺

I’m sure anyone qualified, and looking at the repository, will quickly figure 
out what would be good to include in GeoServer, which is of course where the 
world would most benefit!

-Patrick

From: Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:33 AM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: Geoserver-devel; OSGeo Discussions
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

Switching this to the GeoServer Devel list.
We always encourage people to discuss major changes to GeoServer to discuss 
them here before they start as there is a much better chance of it being 
accepted into the code base and to avoid over lapping and wasted work.
Patrick, please let us know what changes you (NASA) are proposing.
Ian

On 14 February 2018 at 16:20, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> wrote:
Our GeoPackage work to facilitate that via GeoServer is extensive and carefully 
architected. And we’ve discovered some other good things that would certainly 
advance GeoServer.
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit

NASA is prepared to work with someone close to GeoServer for these features and 
improvements to be ‘folded-in.’ We are glad to coordinate with a most 
appropriate person who would take the lead in that effort.

-Patrick

From: Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:56 AM

To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

You know that the latest GeoServers use GeoPackages as core datastores? See 
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Crazy-idea-what-about-GeoPackage-straight-in-core-for-2-12-td5329361.html
 for the discussion.
But please do pitch in with both GeoServer and GeoTools dev we always welcome 
new developers.
Ian

On 14 February 2018 at 15:22, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> wrote:
NASA is working to advance GeoServer to accommodate GeoPackage.

We are certainly glad to share ALL of our work in order to benefit GeoServer 
and the larger community.

For that to occur, if GeoTools is interested in coordinating with us to 
accomplish that, we would be delighted.

-Patrick
(650) 604-5656 (o)
(650) 269-2788 (c)

From: Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:54 AM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind


Actually, that would be the GeoTools and GeoServer Programme 
Steering/Management committees, both of whom welcome contributions - 
http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html & 
http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html
There are several companies that can provide you with commercial support at 
reasonable rates if you need help - http://geoserver.org/support/

Ian
On 14 February 2018 at 13:27, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> wrote:
Brad,

If the primary entity advancing GeoServer (Boundless?) would like to work with 
us, we would be delighted to coordinate that contribution.

-Patrick
 (650) 604-5656 (o)
 (650) 269-2788 (c)

-Original Message-
From: br...@frogmouth.net 
[mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:36 AM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

Hello Patrick,

Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver and 
geotools parts?

Brad


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread Ian Turton
Switching this to the GeoServer Devel list.

We always encourage people to discuss major changes to GeoServer to discuss
them here before they start as there is a much better chance of it being
accepted into the code base and to avoid over lapping and wasted work.

Patrick, please let us know what changes you (NASA) are proposing.

Ian

On 14 February 2018 at 16:20, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:

> Our GeoPackage work to facilitate that via GeoServer is extensive and
> carefully architected. And we’ve discovered some other good things that
> would certainly advance GeoServer.
>
> https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit
>
>
>
> NASA is prepared to work with someone close to GeoServer for these
> features and improvements to be ‘folded-in.’ We are glad to coordinate with
> a most appropriate person who would take the lead in that effort.
>
>
>
> -Patrick
>
>
>
> *From:* Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:56 AM
>
> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> *Cc:* br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
>
>
> You know that the latest GeoServers use GeoPackages as core datastores?
> See http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Crazy-idea-what-
> about-GeoPackage-straight-in-core-for-2-12-td5329361.html for the
> discussion.
>
> But please do pitch in with both GeoServer and GeoTools dev we always
> welcome new developers.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> On 14 February 2018 at 15:22, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> NASA is working to advance GeoServer to accommodate GeoPackage.
>
>
>
> We are certainly glad to share ALL of our work in order to benefit
> GeoServer and the larger community.
>
>
>
> For that to occur, if GeoTools is interested in coordinating with us to
> accomplish that, we would be delighted.
>
>
>
> -Patrick
>
> (650) 604-5656 (o)
>
> (650) 269-2788 (c)
>
>
>
> *From:* Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:54 AM
> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> *Cc:* br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
>
>
>
>
> Actually, that would be the GeoTools and GeoServer Programme
> Steering/Management committees, both of whom welcome contributions -
> http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html &
> http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html
>
> There are several companies that can provide you with commercial support
> at reasonable rates if you need help - http://geoserver.org/support/
>
>
>
> Ian
>
> On 14 February 2018 at 13:27, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> If the primary entity advancing GeoServer (Boundless?) would like to work
> with us, we would be delighted to coordinate that contribution.
>
> -Patrick
>  (650) 604-5656 (o)
>  (650) 269-2788 (c)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: br...@frogmouth.net [mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:36 AM
> To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); 'OSGeo Discussions'
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
> Hello Patrick,
>
> Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver
> and geotools parts?
>
> Brad
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Our GeoPackage work to facilitate that via GeoServer is extensive and carefully 
architected. And we’ve discovered some other good things that would certainly 
advance GeoServer.
https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit

NASA is prepared to work with someone close to GeoServer for these features and 
improvements to be ‘folded-in.’ We are glad to coordinate with a most 
appropriate person who would take the lead in that effort.

-Patrick

From: Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:56 AM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

You know that the latest GeoServers use GeoPackages as core datastores? See 
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Crazy-idea-what-about-GeoPackage-straight-in-core-for-2-12-td5329361.html
 for the discussion.
But please do pitch in with both GeoServer and GeoTools dev we always welcome 
new developers.
Ian

On 14 February 2018 at 15:22, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> wrote:
NASA is working to advance GeoServer to accommodate GeoPackage.

We are certainly glad to share ALL of our work in order to benefit GeoServer 
and the larger community.

For that to occur, if GeoTools is interested in coordinating with us to 
accomplish that, we would be delighted.

-Patrick
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Actually, that would be the GeoTools and GeoServer Programme 
Steering/Management committees, both of whom welcome contributions - 
http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html & 
http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html
There are several companies that can provide you with commercial support at 
reasonable rates if you need help - http://geoserver.org/support/

Ian
On 14 February 2018 at 13:27, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> wrote:
Brad,

If the primary entity advancing GeoServer (Boundless?) would like to work with 
us, we would be delighted to coordinate that contribution.

-Patrick
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Hello Patrick,

Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver and 
geotools parts?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread Ian Turton
You know that the latest GeoServers use GeoPackages as core datastores? See
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Crazy-idea-what-about-GeoPackage-straight-in-core-for-2-12-td5329361.html
for the discussion.

But please do pitch in with both GeoServer and GeoTools dev we always
welcome new developers.

Ian

On 14 February 2018 at 15:22, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:

> NASA is working to advance GeoServer to accommodate GeoPackage.
>
>
>
> We are certainly glad to share ALL of our work in order to benefit
> GeoServer and the larger community.
>
>
>
> For that to occur, if GeoTools is interested in coordinating with us to
> accomplish that, we would be delighted.
>
>
>
> -Patrick
>
> (650) 604-5656 (o)
>
> (650) 269-2788 (c)
>
>
>
> *From:* Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:54 AM
> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> *Cc:* br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
>
>
>
> Actually, that would be the GeoTools and GeoServer Programme
> Steering/Management committees, both of whom welcome contributions -
> http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html &
> http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html
>
> There are several companies that can provide you with commercial support
> at reasonable rates if you need help - http://geoserver.org/support/
>
>
>
> Ian
>
> On 14 February 2018 at 13:27, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> If the primary entity advancing GeoServer (Boundless?) would like to work
> with us, we would be delighted to coordinate that contribution.
>
> -Patrick
>  (650) 604-5656 (o)
>  (650) 269-2788 (c)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: br...@frogmouth.net [mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:36 AM
> To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); 'OSGeo Discussions'
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
> Hello Patrick,
>
> Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver
> and geotools parts?
>
> Brad
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
NASA is working to advance GeoServer to accommodate GeoPackage.

We are certainly glad to share ALL of our work in order to benefit GeoServer 
and the larger community.

For that to occur, if GeoTools is interested in coordinating with us to 
accomplish that, we would be delighted.

-Patrick
(650) 604-5656 (o)
(650) 269-2788 (c)

From: Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:54 AM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind


Actually, that would be the GeoTools and GeoServer Programme 
Steering/Management committees, both of whom welcome contributions - 
http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html & 
http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html
There are several companies that can provide you with commercial support at 
reasonable rates if you need help - http://geoserver.org/support/

Ian
On 14 February 2018 at 13:27, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> wrote:
Brad,

If the primary entity advancing GeoServer (Boundless?) would like to work with 
us, we would be delighted to coordinate that contribution.

-Patrick
 (650) 604-5656 (o)
 (650) 269-2788 (c)

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[mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:36 AM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

Hello Patrick,

Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver and 
geotools parts?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread Ian Turton
Actually, that would be the GeoTools and GeoServer Programme
Steering/Management committees, both of whom welcome contributions -
http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html &
http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html

There are several companies that can provide you with commercial support at
reasonable rates if you need help - http://geoserver.org/support/


Ian
On 14 February 2018 at 13:27, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:

> Brad,
>
> If the primary entity advancing GeoServer (Boundless?) would like to work
> with us, we would be delighted to coordinate that contribution.
>
> -Patrick
>  (650) 604-5656 (o)
>  (650) 269-2788 (c)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: br...@frogmouth.net [mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:36 AM
> To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); 'OSGeo Discussions'
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
> Hello Patrick,
>
> Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver
> and geotools parts?
>
> Brad
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] PlanetOSGeo revamp

2018-02-14 Thread Marc Vloemans
Wow, that looks so good!
Great work, Jorge.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 14 feb. 2018 om 07:20 heeft Jody Garnett  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Wow - that looks much better, I did not know about the j/k/o navigation so I 
> am not bothered by it not working well.
> 
> --
> Jody Garnett
> 
>> On 13 February 2018 at 17:41, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
>> OK hi again,
>> 
>> I did some updates to the design, and also added a small JS library for 
>> j/k/o navigation that sincerely, does not work that well. Result in the same 
>> url [1].
>> 
>> I've also moved the full new theme to a new folder[2], so in theory, 
>> switching to the new theme would be as easy as committing here[3] the theme 
>> name. If you are happy with the current status, please feel free to deploy 
>> the change, otherwise, I'll do that as soon as possible.
>> 
>> For me, next step on this small project is a big clean-up of blogs (say any 
>> wrong url or no new content over the last two years) and then try to get new 
>> sources.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> [1] http://planet.osgeo.org/new_planet/
>> [2] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/planet/venus/themes/osgeo_v2
>> [3] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/planet/venus/planet_osgeo.config#L26
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 February 2018 at 18:21, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8 February 2018 at 15:56, Markus Neteler  wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
 > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 02:39:33PM +0100, Jorge Sanz wrote:
 >
 >> Please take a look and let me know if you see anything you'd like to
 >> address:
 >>
 >> http://planet.osgeo.org/new_planet/
 >
 > Thanks for taking this task !
 
 Yes, thanks a lot.
 
 > One thing that I found annoying in the old planet and is still
 > present in the new one is having full articles dumped on the page.
 
 Yes, maybe only the first x line should be shown.
>>> 
>>> Well this really is up to every blogger because the planet softaware just 
>>> takes the RSS content and some people put the full article, others and 
>>> excerpt, others nothing.
>>> 
>>> What I can do in the planet web interface is use javascript to reduce the 
>>> content to a couple of lines so you have to navigate to the blogger 
>>> website. Maybe optionally I can allow to click somewhere to get the full 
>>> content displayed.
>>> 
>>> 
 
 > I'd rather just see short summaries for each, so that I can
 > see more titles in less scrolling. A click to read all article
 > doesn't seem too much work, if the title and short summary is
 > interesting.
 
 Another nice feature of the old block was to jump from one to the next
 article with the "k" and "j" keys.
 Not sure if that could be ported as well?
 
>>> 
>>> Ok so someone else was using that, apart from me :-) For sorme reason (I 
>>> never investigated) that feature stopped working at some point and frankly, 
>>> as everything else on the planet part, never had the energy to fix it, 
>>> until now.
>>> 
>>> I'll take a look and try to get it working again ^_^
>>> 
>>> I'm almost on holidays, but if the weather is really bad here this weekend 
>>> I may have some time to work on this, otherwise it will have to wait until 
>>> March when I come back to RealWorld(TM).
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your feedback!!
>>> -- 
>>> Jorge Sanz
>>> http://twitter.com/xurxosanz
>>> http://jorgesanz.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Brad,

If the primary entity advancing GeoServer (Boundless?) would like to work with 
us, we would be delighted to coordinate that contribution.

-Patrick
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 (650) 269-2788 (c)

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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:36 AM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

Hello Patrick,

Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver and 
geotools parts?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Just a bit of love to FOSS4G 2018 in the heart felt spirit of GeoForAll

2018-02-14 Thread SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

2018-02-14 Thread bradh
Hello Patrick,

Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver and 
geotools parts?

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