date:20080416


Nice post, those backgrounds work pretty well. Thought i would share
some of my own. First two are from Japan, next two are
Yellowstone/Grand Tetons in the US.


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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!

2008-04-16 Thread ceejay


Well, thats a new one - in looking at a page I found that that some
person had embedded a link to an on-line drugs website!  I guess we
need to be on the lookout for others (it was in the
BeginnersGuideToRipping but isn't any more)

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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds


Here's some from South Africa for the animal lovers amongst us.


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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds


Into which folder should I put these pictures? (Windows XP OS)

Many thanks.

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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds


It doesn't matter where you put them on your PC, you need to do the
following to change the backgrounds on your controller.

1. Extract the JiveExtras.zip in this thread to your Squeezecenter
plugins folder on your PC.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44675

2. In Squeezecenter go to Settings, then Plugins and ensure that
customize controller is enabled (you might need to close and restart
Squeezecenter first to see this).

3. Click on settings for that plugin and then simply click Browse and
add your chosen pictures in there. After a short delay they will then
be available to select on the controller with all of the existing
backgrounds.


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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!

2008-04-16 Thread smc2911


A quick question (apologies if this has been covered elsewhere): are
there any thoughts as to how WikiRadio can be supported in the new
Wiki.

Also, I noticed that when you create an account on the wiki you are
presented with the message Your account has been created. Don't forget
to change your Squeezebox preferences. Does this make sense? I'm not
sure what preference on the SB would be involved!


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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds


PLynas;291943 Wrote: 
 It doesn't matter where you put them on your PC, you need to do the
 following to change the backgrounds on your controller.
 
 1. Extract the JiveExtras.zip in this thread to your Squeezecenter
 plugins folder on your PC.
 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44675
 
 2. In Squeezecenter go to Settings, then Plugins and ensure that
 customize controller is enabled (you might need to close and restart
 Squeezecenter first to see this).
 
 3. Click on settings for that plugin and then simply click Browse and
 add your chosen pictures in there. After a short delay they will then
 be available to select on the controller with all of the existing
 backgrounds.


Thanks for your help, however... I cannot get this to work.
I've downloaded and installed the most recent nightly of SC7.
I've downloaded and extracted the plugin to C\Program
Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Plugins\JiveExtras.
I've stopped and restarted SC7 many times.
But in SqueezeCenter I cannot see under Settings  Plugins, anything
that relates to customize controller

Any thoughts?

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Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection

2008-04-16 Thread Moonloop


Ive had my Duet/Receiver for nearly a month now but havent managed to
get it usable ( Thank God the SB3 works flawlessly ) . When I do get
them to appear on SC the wireless crashes and the SB3 loses its
settings so I just leave them largely unused for now as the crashes
create problems while ripping .

Equipment : Duet/Receiver , SB3 , Dell Inspiron laptop , HP MediaSmart
Server with SC 7 installed , Netopia Cayman router 3347w .

Server is in an upstairs bedroom with the router , SB3 is in the living
room working flawlessly after being given a static IP . The Duet
Receiver after many different experiments  is wired direct to router
and connects ( eventually ) , Duet Controller only works with it if in
the same room . It has yet to finish 'Copying Update' properly and the
whole system crashes in minutes . 

Disconnect the Duet duo and reboot and evrything works perfectly with
absolutely no crashes . 

Baffled and disappointed and waiting on a breakthrough :O)

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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds


Mine took a while to appear despite restarting so it is possible it may
be the same for you. If not, hopefully somebody more technical than
myself can help you out. Any ideas anyone?


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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!

2008-04-16 Thread Triode


Don't think wikiradio has been worked out yet...  At present you can't
upload anything other than image files the wiki so we can't host opml
files on it.  

I would like to think we can have a wiki like interface for submitting
radio station links but it would be preferable if Logitech hosted a
script to index them so wiki radio did not require a plugin.


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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

2008-04-16 Thread smc2911


JimC;291850 Wrote: 
 
 I'm not sure what prompted the useBandAsAlbumArtist variable to be
 added, or how it was intended to be used, but the whole issue of
 normalizing tags is currently being reviewed (there's a LOT to it) and
 how we will provide additional mapping flexibility has yet to be
 determined.  What I do know is that we have to find a way that doesn't
 add too much complexity, or break the exisiting tag usage, to provide
 that functionality.
 
 In addition, we're looking at how various artists are consolidated,
 and how the Compilation tag is/is not used in that process.
 
 
 -= JimThis is good news! I'd love to see this deliver a solution to the
problem I posted here (and in the prior closed thread): if I have an
album with multiple track artists and a single album artist who doesn't
appear on any other album, no amount of option or tag tweaking will get
that album artist into the artist list *without* getting the track
artists in there as well (I call this the Lee Perry or Larry Levan
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Re: [slim] SB3 compatibility with PoE?

2008-04-16 Thread tcgerhard


I'm thinking that the DTV device wants to act like a PoE switch,
probably for some future application that they have in mind.   From
what I read about PoE, there is an initial voltage of 2-10v used to
sense whether it's OK to turn on the 48v; I'm guessing the 5v is for
that purpose.
I did connect the DTV box to an old hub with one working port (and now
heading to the trash...), the link came up fine with no apparent damage
to the hub.
If the SB3 is fine connected to a switch with PoE, I'll give it a try
tonight.
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Re: [slim] 2 New Questions on Duet Config

2008-04-16 Thread craigf


I just went through this exact same migration.

MP3Tag (free at MP3Tag.com) can do this for all your albums at once. 
It takes a couple minutes of configging the app's user-customizable
functions, but it's fairly straightforward.

If you get stumped, post and I'll try to help.


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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds


PLynas;291962 Wrote: 
 Mine took a while to appear despite restarting so it is possible it may
 be the same for you. If not, hopefully somebody more technical than
 myself can help you out. Any ideas anyone?

Hmm ... well, thanks for your help, I'll just sit here and wait for it
to appear. .. Nothing yet . Still nothing . It's like
waiting for a Duet! :)

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Re: [slim] SB3 compatibility with PoE?

2008-04-16 Thread Peter

tcgerhard wrote:
 I'm thinking that the DTV device wants to act like a PoE switch,
 probably for some future application that they have in mind.   From
 what I read about PoE, there is an initial voltage of 2-10v used to
 sense whether it's OK to turn on the 48v; I'm guessing the 5v is for
 that purpose.
 I did connect the DTV box to an old hub with one working port (and now
 heading to the trash...), the link came up fine with no apparent damage
 to the hub.
 If the SB3 is fine connected to a switch with PoE, I'll give it a try
 tonight.
   

One of my SB3's is connected to a POE enabled switch (endspan).
This causes no problems (but has no advantages either).

POE (802.3af) is designed to co-exist with non-POE enabled network clients.

Regards,
Peter

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[slim] Stats on what I've been playing

2008-04-16 Thread jonmyatt


I'm sure I've seen stats on what tracks I've played the most etc in the
past, but for the life of me I can't find it now. Where is (/was) this
info? 

Thanks

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Re: [slim] best stand-alone seakers to connect a SB3 to?

2008-04-16 Thread jamesg1979


Another vote for Aego-M.
Compact, smart looking and lovely sound for complex music.
And under £100


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Re: [slim] Stats on what I've been playing


TrackStat? http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/TrackStat_plugin


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Re: [slim] Stats on what I've been playing

2008-04-16 Thread vrobin


There also is a page with a list of song played. It's available without
trackstats, but I don't know if you can access it with the default
skin.

I remember having seen it with Fishbone skin. Select Fishbone skin,
and look for a menu like about, information, statistics (can't
check it right now).

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Re: [slim] 2 New Questions on Duet Config

2008-04-16 Thread aubuti


craigf;291972 Wrote: 
 I just went through this exact same migration.
 
 MP3Tag (free at MP3Tag.com) can do this for all your albums at once. 
 It takes a couple minutes of configging the app's user-customizable
 functions, but it's fairly straightforward.
 
 If you get stumped, post and I'll try to help.
I just did this for the MP3 copy of my library that I keep for portable
use, and it is very easy in mp3tag (select tracks, alt+shift+5, select
'embed cover art' or something like that, and give the name of the file
to look for (folder.jpg), hit enter).

Can mp3tag do this for FLACs as well? I'm not sure I necessarily -want-
to do it, since folder.jpg/cover.jpg works fine with SC7 and foobar2000,
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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds

2008-04-16 Thread FredFredrickson


Yeah, it's not under plugins. Tricky tricky!!

In SqueezeCenter's Settings Panel, you'll go to : Advanced 

Then in the drop down (That by default has Formatting selected)
you'll choose Customize Controller

Then add your backgrounds. Within a few minutes, the backgrounds appear
in your controllers list- it seems without any other work- no other
restarts neccessary.


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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

2008-04-16 Thread Nonreality


Philip Meyer;291771 Wrote: 
 So, my solution is to
 use mp3tag and add ALBUMARTIST where I think it makes sense. That
 approach actually has some benefits, since it frees tag BAND to be
 used
 for other purposes, like Band or Orchestra, and that helps very much
 for
 complex tagging.
 Exactly.  That is the correct solution - tag things properly.  It
 doesn't take long to open your whole music collection in mp3tag, and
 make it copy the content of TPE2 (BAND) into TXXX ALBUMARTIST.  Rescan
 SqueezeCenter.
 
 Problem solved.  No frigs, no hacking around in the source code.  It
 won't break other rubbish applications that misuse BAND as ALBUMARTIST,
 so you can continue to use iTunes and WinAmp, but as a bonus
 SqueezeCenter will work as you expect, and FooBar will too.
 
 Phil

Man you are one of those again.  Anyway where was I? Oh yes a question
for you. You said that one of the problems is that there is no standard
for albumartist in the mp3 standards. 

There's just confusion over album artist for mp3 tracks due to a
lack of a standard tag for storing it in id3v2.3 tags. Quite a lot of
applications use Band, and report it as album artist, which just makes
things very confusing for novices that want to use their music across
different applications.

If this is correct, and I assume it is as you have said it, then why
are you insisting that using band tag as album artist for the lead band
of an album is the wrong way?  Most programs have accepted this as the
standard for representing the lead band.  And before you look down and
talk down to me from your lofty tower of music knowledge, I'd like you
to know that I didn't have to read all of this thread to know that I
was using band as album artist. I did it on purpose, imagine that.
Incorrigible...yes, ignorant...no.  Most programs use it and I surmised
that it was the best way to go to be compatible.  So in my mind my tags
are correct, maybe not for you, maybe not for SB but right for most
programs.  I would like to know why you think yours is the standard for
mp3 implementing if there is no standard.  If I'm going to change mine
I'd like to make sure it's needed and if SB is planning on an option
for people like me before I add another tag to everything.  Oh one more
thing, if you've already answered all this somewhere else, in these
forums, in some other forum, a letter to a fan and it would put you out
too much to answer here, just don't answer and I'll be fine.  It will
hurt, but really I'll be fine.

PS: So you consider Mediamonkey and dbpoweramp as rubbish applications?
You're going to lose me as fan if you keep this up Phil.


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Re: [slim] Stats on what I've been playing

2008-04-16 Thread jonmyatt


Aha! Thanks vrobin - found it in the fishbone skin.


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Re: [slim] Creating Playlists from On-Line Services like Slacker

2008-04-16 Thread Kaizen28


Hi

Hmmm, no responses

So, is there no way to wake up to a Slacker station?


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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds

2008-04-16 Thread Siduhe


kidstypike;292027 Wrote: 
 
 Can someone check the Zip file 'JiveExtras', I seem to have a single
 file of 4.5 KB with no extension, is this correct?
 
 kidstypike

No - you should have a folder structure and a few more files than that.
Are you downloading using IE as your browser?  If so, try Firefox or
Opera - should sort it out for you (I just downloaded using IE and see
the same single file as you, if I redownload in Firefox, it is as it
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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds


FredFredrickson;292011 Wrote: 
 Yeah, it's not under plugins. Tricky tricky!!
 
 In SqueezeCenter's Settings Panel, you'll go to : Advanced 
 
 Then in the drop down (That by default has Formatting selected)
 you'll choose Customize Controller
 
 Then add your backgrounds. Within a few minutes, the backgrounds appear
 in your controllers list- it seems without any other work- no other
 restarts neccessary.

Well thanks for that, hovever . I went to Settings  Advanced 
Drop down, only to find no sign of Customize Controller.

Can someone check the Zip file 'JiveExtras', I seem to have a single
file of 4.5 KB with no extension, is this correct?

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Re: [slim] Creating Playlists from On-Line Services like Slacker

2008-04-16 Thread Ben Sandee

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Kaizen28 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi

 Hmmm, no responses

 So, is there no way to wake up to a Slacker station?


Not that I'm aware of.  You may want to xref this feature request:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3195

Which is a similar request for Pandora.

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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds


Siduhe;292030 Wrote: 
 No - you should have a folder structure and a few more files than that.
 Are you downloading using IE as your browser?  If so, try Firefox or
 Opera - should sort it out for you (I just downloaded using IE and see
 the same single file as you, if I redownload in Firefox, it is as it
 should be).

Ah, well why didn't you say so before? causing me all this anguish and
concern! ;)

Used Firefox to download the Zip file, all is now serene. It's really
quite simple when you have the right stuff to play with, thanks to all
for your help with this.

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[slim] Where are the server settings on SqCenter

2008-04-16 Thread djlackey5


Trying to install new plug-in for Sirius on new SqeezeCenter, but cannot
find the Server Settings page to update the Internet Radio settings. 
Clicked settings link, but can't find the right place.


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Re: [slim] Creating Playlists from On-Line Services like Slacker

2008-04-16 Thread Kaizen28


Thanks Ben!!

Yup, it's exactly the same thing for Slacker as for Pandora.


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Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection

2008-04-16 Thread dean blackketter

Moonloop:  Have you tried the latest pre-release version of  
SqueezeCenter (7.0.1), which includes a number of connectivity fixes?

http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_nightly.html


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Re: [slim] best stand-alone seakers to connect a SB3 to?

2008-04-16 Thread joeriz


I have the Audioengine A2's and like them a lot.  I will say, however,
that they can be boomy if not set up properly.  As someone else
mentioned, they need to be acoustically isolated to perform their best.
Keep them as far away from rear walls as possible and try not to sit
them directly on a shelf without some isolation under them or the shelf
is going to act as a sounding board.  I have mine on little dabs of
BluTak which in turn sit on little felt pads that I had laying around
(from Home Depot) so as to protect the shelf.

Also, another thing to try - which I find works quite well - is the
Inguz EQ plugin.  As I have the A2's set up in my living room, I have
an Inguz preset called (oddly enough) 'living room' that provides a
slight rolloff in the bass.  I simply leave that preset on all the time
for the SB in the living room.  Works beautifully...


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Re: [slim] Stats on what I've been playing

2008-04-16 Thread Sike


That's really cool!! Is there any way to see more than 1 page in the
fishbone skin?

For all who did not find it: Select Fishbone as skin and on the
top-left pull down menu, select statistics.

This would be great as I sometimes forget what music i have and can
then go and see what everyone else is using.


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Re: [slim] best stand-alone seakers to connect a SB3 to?

2008-04-16 Thread Mushroom_3


Something to note about the AudioEngine A2's. I have just bought a pair
and like the sound, but beware the new black ones are no longer piano
black but a dull black and they have the audioengine logo very
prominently displayed across the front along the bottom.

I would not want them in my living room - they look tacky.


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[slim] Hard limit on amount of players?

2008-04-16 Thread Sike


Is there a hard limit on the number of players allowed with
Squeezeserver?

I remeber seeing something like 16, or is it just a question of
Hardware and network bandwidth?

I am not interested on syncing 16+ players!! And only interested on
using a couple at a time..


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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

2008-04-16 Thread slimkid


So, to help out with sorting this issue, here is another point.

Composer don't show on artist list even if it is ticked off in
'Composer, Band and Orchestra in Artists' setting. It would show for
non compilation albums, but not for compilations regardless of wether
all tracks are marked with the same composer or not. That is contrary
to information for that option that reads: 'Song information about
composers, bands and orchestras can be included in the artists list for
browsing and search.'

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Re: [slim] Hard limit on amount of players?

2008-04-16 Thread snarlydwarf


Sike;292059 Wrote: 
 Is there a hard limit on the number of players allowed with
 Squeezeserver?
 
 I remeber seeing something like 16, or is it just a question of
 Hardware and network bandwidth?
 
 I am not interested on syncing 16+ players!! And only interested on
 using a couple at a time..

There is no hard limit.


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Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection

2008-04-16 Thread fakarava2


dean;292044 Wrote: 
 Moonloop:  Have you tried the latest pre-release version of  
 SqueezeCenter (7.0.1), which includes a number of connectivity fixes?
 
 http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_nightly.html

For me, this build (that I downloaded yesterday) seems better on this
point of view than the previous betas :

SqueezeCenter: 7.0.1 - 18767 @ Tue Apr 15 00:21:54 PDT 2008 - Windows
XP - FR - cp1252

It needs to be confirmed after a few days, however...


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Re: [slim] Hard limit on amount of players?


No hard limit that I'm aware of.


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[slim] TrustedReviews test the Duet

2008-04-16 Thread MLaw


TrustedReviews have delivered a recommended award on the Duet.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/multimedia/review/2008/04/10/Logitech-Squeezebox-Duet-Network-Music-System/p1

I am sure there will be some comments about the DACs

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Re: [slim] How to use iTune as a slim player ?

2008-04-16 Thread hobieboy


Eric Seaberg;290489 Wrote: 
 I don't think that's what it means... it still uses SoftSqueeze or an
 SB3/Duet or Transporter for playback, but uses your iTunes playlist and
 keeps it updated.

The documentation says iTune can be used as a player. And I was able to
use it to play MP3.

Finally able to installed LAME. But now, SqueezeCenter does NOT see
iTune as a player anymore though now I can select LAME based
transcoding options under File Type :(

When I tried to open stream on iTune, it doesn't say SqueezeCenter
anymore - it simply says stream.mp3 and SqueezeCenter doesn't even
recognize that as a player. Anyone can help?

thanks!


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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

2008-04-16 Thread slimkid


... and while I am  on it, searching functionality doesn't work with
BAND tag.

K


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Re: [slim] Stats on what I've been playing

2008-04-16 Thread slimpy


Its' important to know that the fishbone statistics are not persistent
but are reset whenever you do a full rescan.

-s.


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Re: [slim] TrustedReviews test the Duet


There was a little discussion (and laughing) over in this thread:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46079


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Re: [slim] best stand-alone seakers to connect a SB3 to?

2008-04-16 Thread dsendecki


I know these include a sub  but what do you think of the Klipsch
Promedia 2.1 THX Computer Speaker System 160W RMS?

Anybody have these?

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=10869vpn=PROMEDIA2%2E1manufacture=Klipsch


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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

2008-04-16 Thread Nonreality


slimkid;292083 Wrote: 
 ... and while I am  on it, searching functionality doesn't work with
 BAND tag.
 
 K

I've previously set up band to show as Album Artist in mp3tag. What is
the proper method to get albumartist to show up in mp3tag. Thought I'd
give your technique a shot but I have to test it because I have
Mediamonkey and dbpoweramp set up to organize and save music to the
current album artist tag.  Shouldn't be a problem because I'll just dup
the band tag to album artist again but using the new version (for me)


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Re: [slim] SQueezecenter won't open on port 9000

2008-04-16 Thread kmlevine


It took a few acrobatics, but I solved the problem. For anyone else
having the Port 9000 problem, here's what I did to get sc7 to work.
Plugged the readynas directly to another PC, using its native ip,
192.168.168.168.
1, renewed the ip.
2. shut down the HTTPS addon. 
3. installed the Clean Slim server addon and it cleaned
4.  it down and rebooted after I reattached it the network.
5. installed the current beta sc7.01084 available from Slim nightly
downloads.
6 Rebooted
7.REnewed the IP
8.clicked to go to the 9000 port and it opened, as it was meant to.

Thanks all for your help.

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Re: Special Characters like #345; and �

2008-04-16 Thread Chris_Zug

mherger;291915 Wrote:

You mean even the lossless m4a files would now play with iTunes
integration?

Yes! Even files with Ü, Ä etc.

mherger;291915 Wrote:

Does playing m4a work at all? This is telling us that it tried to
transcode from mov (m4a) to mp3 (why not flac? Are you using bitrate
limiting?). Is this transcoding enabled in the server settings?

AAC files do not work (Apple lossless do). No FLAC because I use my
Ipod as musicserver in my car. No bitrate limiting. I can´t enable
transcoding for AAC, due to following errormessage:

Required binary was not found: mac for ape-flc-*-*
Required binary was not found: mac for ape-mp3-*-*
Required binary was not found: mac for ape-wav-*-*
Required binary was not found: mov123 for mov-aif-*-*
Required binary was not found: mov123 for mov-flc-*-*
Required binary was not found: mov123 for mov-mp3-*-*
Required binary was not found: wmadec for wma-flc-*-*
Required binary was not found: wmadec for wma-mp3-*-*
Required binary was not found: wmadec for wma-wav-*-*

mherger;291915 Wrote:

[08-04-15 22:05:11.8548] Slim::Player::Source::openSong (1938) This
is
an mov file:

file:///media/Philips/iTunes/iTunes%20Music/The%20George%20Baker%20Selection/Paloma%20Blanca/01%20Paloma%20Blanca.m4a

No non-latin character in here. I'm confused: this thread was about
issues with non-latin and special characters in file names. But you
can't even play plane files?

Files with non-latin characters are working now. I only can´t play
files in AAC format.

Sorry for confusing you Michael... I am confused on my own sometimes ;)

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[slim] SBC Playlist display doesn't update with re-shuffle

2008-04-16 Thread polocruz


I have playlists set to re-shuffle when it repeats.  I noticed that
after the re-shuffle, which it does do, the playlist display on the
controller remains as originally shuffled.  So when you select a song
to play, it will play a different song than what was selected on the
playlist.

So long story short... the playlist display, does not update with the
re-shuffle.

Anyone else see this?

Paolo


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Re: [slim] Stops between tracks with Rhapsody while trying to sync

2008-04-16 Thread rickbray


I'm using SC 7.01:

Under Settings
Advance Tab
Select Network from pull down menu

Synchronized Players Startup Delay:  Entered 200. Was blank with a
default of 100ms according to the field info.

I haven't had it stop between tracks, yet...


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Re: [slim] Creating Playlists from On-Line Services like Slacker

2008-04-16 Thread Ben Sandee

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Kaizen28 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Thanks Ben!!

 Yup, it's exactly the same thing for Slacker as for Pandora.


Actually, a bit more research on this...  The bug I referenced is for
SqueezeNetwork, which has a very different Alarm plugin/setup mode.  It has
much more flexibility than the SC alarm plugin in that you can use favorites
for your alarm music, along with a bunch of other special cases like the
natural sounds, etc.  What would be great is if this were ported back into
SC.

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[slim] Router crashes on controller startup

2008-04-16 Thread Millwood


I've seen this twice, on different days, both with 2224 software.  After
turning off the controller and turning it back on, my router hangs.  I
don't have access to router logs, so I don't know any details.  But it
is the whole router, not just wireless.  Pulling power is needed to
restart.

My router is a Linksys WRT54G-2.

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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

if I have an
album with multiple track artists and a single album artist who doesn't
appear on any other album, no amount of option or tag tweaking will get
that album artist into the artist list *without* getting the track
artists in there as well (I call this the Lee Perry or Larry Levan
problem :)).

Hmmm, interesting - it works for me.

Eg. A single album by album artist=Alio Die  Saffron Wood, has two track 
artists: Alio Die, Saffron Wood.

Alio Die  Saffron Wood appears in the browse artists list.  I haven't got 
any other albums by either track artist, so both do not appear in the browse 
artists list.

My relevant Music Library settings are:

Band/Orchestra is ticked
Group compilation albums together
List albums by all artists for that album

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Re: [slim] Hard limit on amount of players?

2008-04-16 Thread funkstar


You will never run out of licences it's all down to network and server
performance.

I have to say, you must have quite a setup if youa re running 16
players! I'm a little envious :)

I'm pretty sure the team in Mountainview have run dozens on players at
the same time in the past. Partly to see what would happen and partly
just because they could :D


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[slim] postgresql support expected?

2008-04-16 Thread Louis-David Mitterrand

Hi,

Will squeezecenter support postgresql at some point in the future? My 
GNU/Linux debian server already has that fine database running for other 
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Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection


Armand;291922 Wrote: 
 Does anyone have any suggestions?
 Thought my previous posts unfortunatelly did't result in any answers
 yet, I'll give it another shot.
 My controller will not connect to my pc / Sqeezecenterserver . It will
 not connect at all, not just interuptions, it simply does not connect.
 
 After (yet another) factory reset I was able to connect to
 Sqeezenetwork, in which everything works fine, but connecting to my pc
 / Sqeezecenterserver afterwards failed.
 Connecting to my pc / Sqeezecenterserver after a factory reset doesn't
 work: Problem Connecting; couldn't connect your Squeezebox to your
 wireless network.
 
 It doesn't make sense to me since:
 - I can see the controller in the DHCP client list; 
 - I can connect to the controller throught SSH / putty
 - The controller first finds my wireless network, then finds the
 receiver and connects to my network (The Squeezebox is connected to
 your network)
 - My receiver and two other classic SqueezeBoxes work fine
 
 I tried changing the Belin router's congfiguration (SSID channel,
 switching 64 and 128 WEP, etc.)
 
 Can anyone please give me some suggestions?

The Controller is connected to your wireless network in the same way,
regardless of the music source.   The connection, assignment of IP
address, etc., all occur well before there's an attempt made to find a
music source.

If the Controller connects SN and configures the Receiver properly,
then the Controller is working.  Connecting to SN means that your
network is configuring the Controller correctly, and is routing packets
to/from the internet to the Controller correctly.  This is good.

Not finding a local SqueezeCenter can mean any of the following:
  
- You don't actually have SqueezeCenter 7.0.0 (or higher) running on
  a computer on your network.  Make sure SC is running and, if
  possible, connect to it from a different computer on your network by
  opening a web browser and entering
  http://-IP_address_of_computer_running_SC-:9000.  If the
  SqueezeCenter interface opens up, then SC is running and available on
  your network (at least to that computer).  Double-check the version
  number by checking the Status tab under Settings.
  
- One (or more!) software firewalls are blocking the routing of
  packets to/from the Controller to the computer running SC.  Try
  disabling (as a test!) the firewall and see if you can connect.  Be
  sure to double-check that ALL firewalls are turned off (you might be
  surprised how many people are running the built-in Windows Firewall
  -and- a third-party firewall like Zone Alarm Pro, or Norton Internet
  Security.  If you are able to connect, then you'll need to open the
  firewall for access (see the Squeezebox Duet Uder Guide for
  instructions).  
  
- The Controller is not on the same network segment as the computer
  running SqueezeCenter.  Check the IP address for the computer and
  compare it to the IP address for the Controller.  They should be very
  similar (eg., 192.168.1.101 and 192.168.1.106).  If they aren't
  similar, they may not be on the same network segment which means
  there may not be a route for the data to travel.  If this is the
  case, you'll need to post details about your network set up here
  (what's connected to what, as in: switch connected to wireless
  router, PC connected to switch with ethernet cable, Controller and
  Receiver connected to wireless router).  We can try to help you
  figure out what's happening from that information.
  

In general, this is stuff our technical support team is really well
qualified to help you with... you really should consider contacting
them.  


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Re: [slim] postgresql support expected?

2008-04-16 Thread gharris999


It may support it already.  DBI modules exist for PostgreSQL.  It may be
as simple as installing the modules, creating a schema in PostgreSQL
with the right user permissions and then modifying the server.prefs to
use that db.  You might try doing some experimenting and let us know
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Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection


geoff;291882 Wrote: 
 This thread seems to be all about wireless issues with the new duet
 controller.  Is it possible that the problem is more pervasive than
 this?  I have a single SB3 connected with wireless to my server.  It
 worked flawlessly with SC 6.5.4 but since a recent SqueezeCenter
 upgrade to 7.0 I have had frequent problems with the wireless
 connection dropping out.  It used to show a consistent signal strength
 of 80%+ at the SB3.  But since the upgrade the signal strength seems to
 wander up and down over time,  averages maybe 50-60% and fluctuates up
 to 70+ and down to 20 something.  I can't imagine how the SC software /
 firmware u/g could do this?  But maybe ?   I havn't touched the hardware
 at all, everything is physically just as it was before ... but something
 has changed somewhere.

I don't *think* there were significant changes to the networking code
on the SB3, but I'm not a software guy so I can't be 100% sure of
that.

Is it possible that a neighbor just added a wireless network that uses
the same channel as yours?  That could cause problems with your
network, without you ever having made a single change.  If the SB3 is
closer neighbor's router than to yours (this does happen: my
Transporter is closer to my neighbor's router than mine), it very
likely could cause a change in signal strength.

Any other possible changes to the radio environment?  Did you add a new
2.4GHz wireless telephone to your house?  Any other wireless stuff added
recently?


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Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection

2008-04-16 Thread Armand


Jim, thanks for your reply, but unfortunately nothing new.
I only haven't tried to disable my firewall yet; I'll give it a shot
asap.

JimC;292132 Wrote: 
 
 You don't actually have SqueezeCenter 7.0.0 (or higher) running on a
 computer on your network.  Make sure SC is running and, if possible,
 connect to it from a different computer on your network by opening a
 web browser and entering
 http://-IP_address_of_computer_running_SC-:9000.  If the SqueezeCenter
 interface opens up, then SC is running and available on your network
 (at least to that computer).  Double-check the version number by
 checking the Status tab under Settings.
 
I'm already used to connect to SC from a different computer. It runs
7.0.1 - 18576. 
JimC;292132 Wrote: 
 
 One (or more!) software firewalls are blocking the routing of packets
 to/from the Controller to the computer running SC.  Try disabling (as a
 test!) the firewall and see if you can connect.  Be sure to double-check
 that ALL firewalls are turned off (you might be surprised how many
 people are running the built-in Windows Firewall -and- a third-party
 firewall like Zone Alarm Pro, or Norton Internet Security.  If you are
 able to connect, then you'll need to open the firewall for access (see
 the Squeezebox Duet Uder Guide for instructions).  
 
I didn't try that one yet...
JimC;292132 Wrote: 
 
 The Controller is not on the same network segment as the computer
 running SqueezeCenter.  Check the IP address for the computer and
 compare it to the IP address for the Controller.  They should be very
 similar (eg., 192.168.1.101 and 192.168.1.106).  If they aren't
 similar, they may not be on the same network segment which means there
 may not be a route for the data to travel.  If this is the case, you'll
 need to post details about your network set up here (what's connected to
 what, as in: switch connected to wireless router, PC connected to switch
 with ethernet cable, Controller and Receiver connected to wireless
 router).  We can try to help you figure out what's happening from that
 information.
 
The computers and controllers IP address are on the on the same network
segment for sure.


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[slim] Duet - change receiver name

2008-04-16 Thread DLORDE


I just bought a Duet combo to go with my existing Squeezebox. By
default, the Duet receiver is named 'Squeezebox', the same as my old
one, so I want to rename it to avoid confusion. When I used the
controller settings menu to enter the new name, and hit the centre
button to set it, as instructed, it just reverted back to
'Squeezebox'...

I've tried this several times with no success - it should be really
easy, but how should it be done?


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Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection

2008-04-16 Thread HectorHughMunro


HectorHughMunro;291556 Wrote: 
 So do we know what routers are rock solid with the Duet?  
 
 I've got a Netgear DG834N and unfortunately I am experiencing some of
 these problems.  Currently running the most up to date software on the
 controller and 7.0/22 on the Squeezecentre and Receiver. Security is
 WPA-PSK.
 
 I'm probably losing connection every three days of so.  Takes me about
 40 minutes or so to get a connection again.
 
 Upgrading tonight to 7.01/23 to see if it makes a difference.

Just to report how things are going; Basically, since the latest
updates 7.01/23, it's much more stable and I haven't had a crash or had
to do a forced restart of any of the Slimdevices kit. 

Well done, things definitely improving.


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Re: [slim] best stand-alone seakers to connect a SB3 to?

2008-04-16 Thread HectorHughMunro


Mushroom_3;292053 Wrote: 
 Something to note about the AudioEngine A2's. I have just bought a pair
 and like the sound, but beware the new black ones are no longer piano
 black but a dull black and they have the audioengine logo very
 prominently displayed across the front along the bottom.
 
 I would not want them in my living room - they look tacky.

That's disappointing - Mine are in the post.  The website has changed
to describe them as 'Satin Black'.


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Re: [slim] Controller Backgrounds

2008-04-16 Thread Triode


Here's a slightly updated plugin for this.  With tomorrow's nightly
version of SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 you should be able to past the URLs from
for the attachements to this page into the URL box - this will mean that
SqueezeCenter does not need to store the images itself, it just stores
the url and the remote gets them direct.

As before this is work in progress, but I hope something based on it
will be included with 7.1


+---+
|Filename: JiveExtras.zip   |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4866|
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Re: [slim] Controller won't wake up ?

2008-04-16 Thread coupesport


I haven't noticed a pattern with mine - tempting to download iPeng and
use my iPod touch as this is starting to piss me off. 

James


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Re: [slim] Duet Software update

2008-04-16 Thread vrobin


Just a word to confirm the facts. There's definitely no bug there. Each
time the duet asks for an upgrade, there's a recent file (two hours old
maximum) in /var/cache.

Is there a Changelog to consult for this new firmwares?


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Re: [slim] Duet Software update

2008-04-16 Thread gharris999


I'm not sure about a change log, but if you use a news reader client and
point it at news.gmane.org and subscribe to
gmain.music.equipment.slimdevices.jive.scm, you can see all the code
submissions that go into making up the firmware.


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Re: [slim] Duet Software update

2008-04-16 Thread vrobin


That's enough for me to see what's going on. What can I say... except
Thank you again ;).

Robin


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Re: [slim] Where are the server settings on SqCenter

2008-04-16 Thread aubuti


The configuration settings for most plugins are available under the
Advanced tab and/or the Plugins tab. Note that first you have to copy
the files into the right place on your SC7 installation.


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Re: [slim] Duet - change receiver name

2008-04-16 Thread DLORDE


OK - I managed it through SqueezeCenter, but not through the
controller...

Incidentally, whenever I use the controller to check for a software
update, it *always* says there is new software and will download and
install it - even though it's the same version. Is this a known bug?


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[slim] Sudden drop in Network Performance

2008-04-16 Thread Andersen09


My SB3 suddenly started to behave strange: It is rebooting as well as
making click noises (from rebooting) and being super slow.

I have noticed that the Network Test is now very poor - used to be 4
Mbps before any packets were lost, now it can not event keep 100% at
the lowest rate.

I have not changed anything else and my coputers in the house are
running perfectly on wireless.

Is my SB3 broken??

Thanks
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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

2008-04-16 Thread Greg Klanderman


 snarlydwarf  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It is easy for me to believe because the proper place to do that is in
 the scanner when the db is built (specifically in MP3.pm).

 That section of code is used only for display, and well after the DB
 has been loaded.

Again, it does not make sense to infer the intent from the current
state of the code implementing this preference.  All the scanning and
db code has been completely rewritten at least once since it was
originally implemented.  I traced the code back in svn history a bit
but at some point I think it was moved to Slim/Schema/Album.pm from
another file but svn log just gives me an error probably because I
have not fixed my working directories since the svn reorg a while
back.

Also, as has been pointed out by others, the proper place to do what
has been requested is not in the scanner, because you don't want to
force a rescan when changing the option.  It's possible the
implementer thought adding some logic in the display code was
sufficient and other bits have been lost in the shuffle.  It might
even have been prior to the introduction of the TRACKARTIST
contributor role which I think changed some things.

Anyway, while I do think SC should support the interpretation of TPE2
which some other programs use, I really don't care enough about this
anymore to keep tracking this thread, as I will happily use the TXX
frames.

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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!

2008-04-16 Thread Fletch


JimC;291847 Wrote: 
 There is still some work to be done, so anyone who had previously
 volunteered is more than welcome to dive in and start editing!  If you
 hadn't volunteered, you're still welcome... we can use all the help we
 can get.  There's a page detailing known issues, as well as a Style
 Guide, but neither is complete and you're free to contribute anywhere.

Jim,

Have you had any further thoughts on our previous discussion about all
the outdated (and just plain wrong) info in the wiki?  As I mentioned
before, it has gotten especially bad since 7.0 was released and there's
still a lot of old info around that hasn't been updated or removed.  I
understand that we can all just jump in and start fixing these things,
but it seems like some sort of organized triage would be useful.  Maybe
just a way for users to tag pages that they think are incorrect (I think
wikipedia does this) and then an easy way for others to view an index of
these possibly bad pages.


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Re: [slim] Sudden drop in Network Performance

2008-04-16 Thread CatBus


Test it wired before doing anything else.  If it behaves fine wired,
then chances are it's fine and at the very worst its wireless network
hardware is flaky.

My guess is one of your neighbors just got a new draft-N router and is
clobbering your network.  Computers can cope with surprisingly spotty
wireless connections, but SB3s do not.  Use NetStumbler to find out
what sort of wireless interference you're contending with.


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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

2008-04-16 Thread Greg Klanderman

 Phil Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 if I have an
 album with multiple track artists and a single album artist who doesn't
 appear on any other album, no amount of option or tag tweaking will get
 that album artist into the artist list *without* getting the track
 artists in there as well (I call this the Lee Perry or Larry Levan
 problem :)).

 Hmmm, interesting - it works for me.

Yep, works for me too.

The one thing I'm conflicted over is that if I do have another real
album by an artist that is a track artist of a single song on an album
I'm using an album artist on, that album shows up with the track
artist's other albums as an album of one song.

Sometimes I think I don't want it to appear at all, but mostly I'd
rather it appear as the complete album.  I really don't like how SC
sometimes will represent a subset of an album as if it were an album.

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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

2008-04-16 Thread Greg Klanderman


 JimC  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 We're working on the best way to handle all of this.

Thank you Jim, I appreciate your efforts to get to the bottom of
all this tag interpretation stuff..

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Re: [slim] How do you use your Squeezbox/Receiver/Transporter

2008-04-16 Thread Brian Ritchie


JimC;291852 Wrote: 
 Could it be less tolerant?  Sure.  It's a different set of electronics
 and it's certainly possible that noise is rejected as well.  Is it
 indeed less tolerant?  Quite honestly, I don't know.
 
 Please do swap them over again and let us know what you find.

Thanks, Jim; I was planning to add more anyway...

Tonight we tried the players in their swapped locations whilst
preparing dinner; all went well until we turned on the microwave, at
which point both stopped dead.  Not too surprising, I guess. Once we
were finished with the m'wave we tried again; it took a couple of false
(stuttery) starts, but then worked fine. (The washing machine didn't
seem to affect them.)

Some time later, I swapped the units over.  Within a few tracks, they
started stuttering again (well, to be precise, the SB3 played up - I
wasn't in a position to check the SBC). The SB3 even showed the
rebuffering... message, which I rarely see. At this point, since I
actually wanted to listen rather than fault-trace, I turned off sync.
The SB3 has been working fine since.

This experience supports the idea that my SBR may be more touchy than
my SB3; but it's far from conclusive.

My laptop (in the same room as the SB3) reports no other networks
nearby. SqueezeCenter reports signal strengths of 66 (SB3) and 58 (SBC)
at the moment, but this is some time after the sync problems.

(Just had a weird moment there, where SqueezeCenter was reporting very
low signal on the SBC (36 or less), but the Controller said 53; but the
SBC was paused, and once I started playing something, SC started to look
better.)

Those signal strengths aren't very good. I can't blame the central
heating, as it's not on. The only things on in the kitchen at the
moment are the fluorescent tube (hmm?) and the fridge on which the SBC
sits (h...) I can't rule out the possibility of interference from
the neighbours, but it's a bit unlikely at this time of night.  Right
now, even the laptop is claiming a lower-than-usual speed (36Mbps). 

Maybe it's time to check out my router; it gets power-cycled each
night, but hasn't had a firmware upgrade for a while.

I don't suppose there are any known issues with the LinkSys WRT54G
router... ?

It's all a bit frustrating... I bought the SBC mainly to use in sync
with my SB3, but this doesn't seem to be working reliably.  I doubt
that it's the units themselves, or the server; more likely it's poor
signal or too much noise.  But I'm running out of options - moving the
router, or wiring-up one or both units would not be practical. (I guess
I should add that the router is upstairs, and the server is wired to
it.) I could try swapping the SB3/SBR round again, but that's not ideal
either.

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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!

2008-04-16 Thread ceejay


ceejay;291927 Wrote: 
 Whats the best way of adding navigation links amongst a group of pages
 (eg the BeginnersGuide, or Plugins)?
 
 In the old wiki there was the (admittedly very crude) list of backlinks
 on the left, which made it easy to get back to parent or related
 pages.
 
 Is there a way of adding navigation links on the left, locally to a
 page? Or is there a recommended style for adding navigation links at,
 say, the top of a page?
 
 Ceejay

In the absence of a response I've come up with a simple solution - a
link at the top of each of the Beginners Guide subpages back to the
parent. Any better ideas?

Ceejay


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Re: [slim] Duet - change receiver name


Yes it is. 

The problem with changing the name isn't though...now you've been able
to change it from SC7 can you try again from the controller?


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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!


smc2911;291946 Wrote: 
 
 Also, I noticed that when you create an account on the wiki you are
 presented with the message Your account has been created. Don't forget
 to change your Squeezebox preferences. Does this make sense? I'm not
 sure what preference on the SB would be involved!

I'm guessing that Squeezebox is some magic token for the wiki name,
as I see it popup in various places where it seems strange, e.g. (from
the edit form) Please note that all contributions to Squeezebox may be
edited, altered, or removed by other contributors.

Maybe Squeezebox Wiki would work better?


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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

Also, as has been pointed out by others, the proper place to do what
has been requested is not in the scanner, because you don't want to
force a rescan when changing the option.

I think it should be an option appropriate only to the scanner.  I believe we 
are NOT saying that any scanned Band contributor should be considered as an 
album artist, but only when interpretting ID3v2.3 tags (eg so that TPE2 would 
mean album artist).  Better  formats, such as OGG, have support for both band 
and album artist tags as part of the defined standard.

I don't think anyone has seen the need for a contributor role of band to be 
seen as album artist, but for a band tag to be read as album artist.  There's a 
difference.

I don't think it's a big deal that if an option for how the scanner would 
translate tags were to be changed, that a rescan would be required.  I would 
assume that a user would set the option that they want as a one-off and stick 
with it forever.  eg.  I would never want to translate TPE2 to album artist, as 
I want to see band contributors, and I already have album artist tags.  
However, other people who are more accustomed to iTunes for example, may never 
have proper band contributors and use the TPE2 tag for album artist.  They are 
unlikely to change the option for scanning too.

I would hope that such a scanner option would be set automatically by the 
installation wizard, e.g. if the user indicates that he uses iTunes, etc.  For 
existing users, they'd have to choose the right option and rescan - a one-off 
change that they are unlikely to need to do ever again.

There are other benefits; the change to implement within the scanner would be a 
lot easier than the potential rework to SqueezeCenter to dynamically work out 
how to group by album artist and what artists to list.  Also, performance may 
be worse if it has to work out album artist groupings dynamically all the time.

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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!


Fletch;292204 Wrote: 
 Jim,
 
 Have you had any further thoughts on our previous discussion about all
 the outdated (and just plain wrong) info in the wiki?  As I mentioned
 before, it has gotten especially bad since 7.0 was released and there's
 still a lot of old info around that hasn't been updated or removed.  I
 understand that we can all just jump in and start fixing these things,
 but it seems like some sort of organized triage would be useful.  Maybe
 just a way for users to tag pages that they think are incorrect (I think
 wikipedia does this) and then an easy way for others to view an index of
 these possibly bad pages.

Now that I've had a chance to muck about a bit, I think the right thing
to do is to add a category tag of Edit Needed.  It would look like
this:


Code:

[[Category:Edit Needed]]



Then I'll link that to the Under Construction page as a reference for
editors to follow.


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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

The one thing I'm conflicted over is that if I do have another real
album by an artist that is a track artist of a single song on an album
I'm using an album artist on, that album shows up with the track
artist's other albums as an album of one song.

Sometimes I think I don't want it to appear at all, but mostly I'd
rather it appear as the complete album.  I really don't like how SC
sometimes will represent a subset of an album as if it were an album.

Yes, I pondered on that myself once.

However, I came to the conclusion that the current functionality is the best 
option.  I actually like the fact that when I browse to an artist it shows all 
albums that the artist has contributed on, and only songs by that artist are 
listed when I click on an album.  I can always see all songs on the album by 
clicking on the album name.  If it were to always show all songs, and I had 
boxed set compilation album of hundreds of songs, I'd be hunting around for a 
single song by the artist I'd chosen with no easy way of filtering it down.  
Also, would you want to chose and artist and hit play all and get all songs by 
the artist, or all songs on all albums where the artist appears at least once?

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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!


One thing I just noticed doing the hardware overview is that some of the
product specific pages have pretty long names. For example, hotlinking
the word Squeezebox is going to be a pretty common requirement - but
it needs this mouthful : 

Code:


  Everyone loves a [[Squeezebox3rdGeneration|Squeezebox]]


Any way we can make that a little easier? I'm assuming the reason
SqueezeBox was used so much in the old wiki was due to auto-linking of
camel case words. 

Also - would be good to make the formatting help link go somewhere
(even if it's just
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page :)


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Re: [slim] best stand-alone seakers to connect a SB3 to?

2008-04-16 Thread rperkin


Another vote for the Acoustic Energy AEGO-M. Sensible sized subwoofer +
two *tiny* (but heavy!) mid+HF speakers. 90W RMS. Truly amazing sound
from such a small speaker system - hearing is believing.

I was sceptical, but have now replaced a pair of Monitor Audio Silver
S6s with the AEGO-Ms for reasons of space [Aside: they've only moved to
another room. I have two pairs of the Monitor Audios].

The sound quality of the AEGO-M is most definitely acceptable. I paid
approx GBP 90 from Amazon UK in Feb 08, but the price seems to vary
from week to week...

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Re: [slim] Playing cd's

2008-04-16 Thread bpa


Attached is an beta version of enhanced CDplayer for testing.  

The main differences are
1. Support for platforms which run cdda2wav - Windows XP and many
Linux. Mac/OSX needs some more effort to get cdd2wav to work. Not
tested with Vista but should be OK.
2. Album content is identified using MusicBrainz. Album, track and
artist info is displayed in menus and as track is played.

The intent behind this plugin is to provide a basic facility to play
audio CD on a PC cdrom/dvd drive through SqueezeCenter. There are
limitations because the CDDA2WAV app is intended for ripping rather
than playing in real time so occassionally there will be gaps -
depending on whether CD is spinning up/.down and buffer of the CDROM
drive.  

Basic Operation.

Once Installed - there will be a CDplayer menu in Extras on WebUI, SB
and SBC. Click on CDplayer menu and you will get 1,2 or more menu
items.

There will always be a CD Tracks - raw format entry. This menu has an
entry for each track - the tracks are numbered.  If Album cannot be
identified then there will only be the raw entry.  Occassionally an
album will be wrongly identified so user can use raw entry to play
track without showing incorrect info.

Occassionally there will be two or more records associated with an
Album id - all matching records will be shown.

There is a setting to change operation of Pause to Stop within
CDplayer.  This is because I am not sure what happens if a playing CD
audio stream is paused so I think stop may be better for CD drive.  

There are two version of the plugin - Windows and Linux, so there are
separate installation instructions.

Windows.
1. Stop SC
2. Download a Zip file from
http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/CDplayer1beta.zip
3. Unzip the zipped file into server/Plugins so that you have a
server/Plugins/CDplayer
4. Replacing socketwrappers help minimise stray processes left behind
by cdda2wav. Following steps are optional.
4a.Download and extract sockwetwrapper.exe (v1.11b) from zip at this
location
http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/socketwrapper111b.zip  
4b. Rename existing socketwrapper.exe in C:\Program
Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread directory so
that you can revert if necessary.
4c. copy the downloaded socketwrapper.exe into the C:\Program
Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread directory
5. Start SqueezeCenter - check in Settings there is a Plugin called
CDplayer and in Advanced/FileTypes there should be an entry CD Player
enabled to use cdda2wav.
6. Put CD in drive and test.

Linux.
1. Stop SC
2. Download the tar.gz file attached to this post.  
3. Install cdda2wav from the repository for your distro.
4. Untar the tar.gz file into server/Plugins such that you have a
directoru server/Plugins/CDplayer
5. Start SqueezeCenter - check in Settings there is a Plugin called
CDplayer and in Advanced/FileTypes there should be an entry CD Player
enabled to use cdda2wav.
6. Put CD in drive and test.


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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

2008-04-16 Thread Wirrunna


gregklanderman;292207 Wrote: 
  JimC  JimC.37xqhz1208307601 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
 forums.slimdevices.com writes:
 
  We're working on the best way to handle all of this.
 
 Thank you JimC, I appreciate your efforts to get to the bottom of
 all this tag interpretation stuff..
 
 greg

I agree with greg and will add the following comments.
The most users of computer stored and served music are iPod owners.
iTunes allows the entry of Album Artist when ripping and in the iTunes
GUI it can be used as a sort item.
When an iTunes user fires up SC GUI he/she quickly discovers that the
Album Artist column is not available (there have been numerous posts
about this), I have only seen one contributor to this thread mentioning
the iTunes use of this tag.
Many contributors to this forum decry iTunes for a lot of valid and
some not so valid reasons, but iTunes users are where Logitech's mass
market is. So, JimC, get SC to handle Album Artist in a similar manner
to iTunes and you will improve the marketability of SC.


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Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags

If this is correct, and I assume it is as you have said it, then why
are you insisting that using band tag as album artist for the lead band
of an album is the wrong way?

I am not really saying it is the wrong way, just not the right way for 
SlimServer/SqueezeCenter, which has never supported it that way (intentionally 
it appears).

I asked a few questions when I first joined this community to get album artist 
working.  I entered the required tags, as required for SlimServer to function 
as I wanted, and I'd had very little problems since.  I've responded to many 
calls for help in tagging to get SC to work correctly.

I have subsequently hacked some of my mp3 albums to copy the album artist in 
the band tag, just to satisfy iTunes when I need to use that for syncing to an 
iPod.

I guess I'm just a bit frustrated that this keeps coming up.  People point 
blank insist that their tags are right, even when told the reason, etc.  They 
insistn that the really do have album artist set, and that SqueezeCenter is not 
working because their tags are perfect.

Most programs have accepted this as the
standard for representing the lead band.
No, most programs have misused the TPE2 tag for storing band.  Other conformant 
apps suffer as a result.

I believe most people with classical music collections use Band for storing the 
orchestra, because there isn't a specific orchestra tag. That's a mis-use of 
the tag to some degree, but it isn't a mis-use of functionality.  Album artist 
is for grouping, whereas a contributor role is just someone that performs on a 
song.

Most programs use it and I surmised that it was the best way to go to be 
compatible.
SqueezeCenter in it's current form is not compatible.

I think it's fine to set band to work as album artist for other applications.  
I also think it's absolutely correct for SC to be updated to support (as an 
option) this alternative way of working.  If an option is added in SC to 
support it, it would also seem reasonable to then turn off Band as a 
contributor role in SqueezeCenter (don't report album artist and band, because 
the album artist would then not be a band).

I would like to know why you think yours is the standard for
mp3 implementing if there is no standard.
There is a standard.  TPE2 means Band.

If I'm going to change mine
I'd like to make sure it's needed and if SB is planning on an option
for people like me before I add another tag to everything.
I would assume that some good developer folks will find some nice option to get 
BAND working as ALBUMARTIST.  It may take a while, so if you want your library 
fixed soon, you're best off adding a specific ALBUMARTIST tag.  It won't affect 
how other apps interpret your music collection from your tags.  If later you 
decide to use an SC option to use BAND as ALBUMARTIST, you shouldn't need to do 
any retagging either.

PS: So you consider Mediamonkey and dbpoweramp as rubbish applications?

iTunes is definitely rubbish.  Unfortunately I still use it, but as little as 
possible. Not sure I've ever used MediaMonkey, but I've read other forum posts, 
and it does seem to make assumptions about how tagging should be done.  
dbPowerAmp is not bad I think. I only use the converter tool, which is quite 
good.

Mp3tag does everything I need from a tagger and more, so I stopped looking for 
other apps.  I also use FooBar for playing music, which is a good app too.

To add a Txxx ALBUMARTIST tag in Mp3tag:
select some songs, go to Extended Tags dialog, enter field ALBUMARTIST 
and enter the artist as the value.
You can also configure that to come up as a column in the grid, and as a field 
in the Tag Panel.
You can create an action to copy the BAND tag value into ALBUMARTIST.  Then 
select all music and run the action to do your whole collection in one go.

So I'm sorry if I've been a bit vocal.  I'll back off now and see what happens. 
 I've tried to explain why people's tags don't work, and what to do to get it 
working really well in SqueezeCenter now, with minimal fuss.

Phil
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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!


ceejay;291927 Wrote: 
 Whats the best way of adding navigation links amongst a group of pages
 (eg the BeginnersGuide, or Plugins)?
 
 In the old wiki there was the (admittedly very crude) list of backlinks
 on the left, which made it easy to get back to parent or related
 pages.
 
 Is there a way of adding navigation links on the left, locally to a
 page? Or is there a recommended style for adding navigation links at,
 say, the top of a page?
 
 Ceejay

I'll see if we can turn on subpages... I think that's the best way (it
essentially creates a breadcrumb trail of links on the page).  I'll
also bug BKlaas to see if he has a better method since he was once,
long ago, a wiki admin (along with a bunch of other IT stuff) using
MediaWiki.

If anyone else knows a better way, speak NOW so we don't have to go
backward too much if we implement it the wrong way.


-= Jim


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[slim] Optimise artwork for Duet

2008-04-16 Thread lozcs


My duet is on it's way... ;-)

Just making sure all my albums have a folder.jpg in them

What is the optimum size for this artwork to display on the duet? Some
of my folder.jpg files are HUGE - will this slow the controller down?

Lawrence..


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[slim] Unorthodox behavior

2008-04-16 Thread mmduf


I've had the SB3 for a couple of months and it's been working great. But
since upgrading to SC7, when I try to switch between Squeezecenter and
Squeezenetwork, the unit begins to log off of one, then instead of
logging into the other, it just turns itself off, like someone had hit
the off switch. So I have to turn it back on and then I can make the
switch.

Also, some albums are beginning to show duplicate tracks. I don't have
any duplicate albums, just tracks within certain albums. I'm pretty
anal about my tags, and I don't see anything there that can be causing
this. I went into the folder that contains the mp3's and deleted the
dupes, and cleared and rescanned the library, but they reappeared. 

I installed 7.0.1, hoping this was some bug it would fix, but it still
happens. I'm using XP and iTunes as my server.

I'm hoping someone can give me a non-technical answer on this.


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