Re: [slim] Wadia 170 iTransport vs Slimdevices Transporter - initial impressions

2008-08-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Transporter is used in digital out mode.  The Tact digital amps are
in fact DAC's as the signal remains digital until outputting to
speakers.
The Slimdevices products are, IMO, easier to use in terms of seeing
what tracks are playing, managing playlists etc.
The advantage of the Wadia is that one does not have to be connected to
a computer or network in order to play music.  Sonically I did not find
any advantage to the Wadia and, as stated in my initial post, I prefer
the sound of the Transporter to that of the Wadia.
I will again compare the units after running the Wadia for a week.
Jose


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[slim] Fast forward/rewind on duet, with latest firmware and 7.1

2008-08-27 Thread aporret

I recently installed a duet and two servers, one running on a ReadyNAS
NV+, the other on a vista PC (both show the same behavior). Brand new
install of 7.1, with the controller firmware updated to the latest.

I am using WMA VBR (about 130kbps) files.

Whatever I do, I cannot move inside a track using fast forward/backward
buttons. Moreover, there is no (real) documentation anywhere of how it
is supposed to work! Some thread refer to an old way of scanning, going
2x, 4x, 8x the speed, but the latest version seems to work completely
differently on the controller (you can apparently use the wheel to move
inside the track).

In my case, I press FF on the controller, and hold it until the Song
position windows appears, with a slider for the current position. If I
continue holding it, nothing happens. If I release the button, and press
it again, the slider moves (although the track continues to play without
interruption). When I release the FF button, the player would skip to
the beginning of the next track. If I move again within the track (FW
or RW), it will skip to the beginning of another track... And the time
counter get screwed from time to time (showing negative time position,
etc...).

According to the FAQ #5995, seeking within a track is supported for
WMA CBR and WMA VBR... According to the bug tracker entries, the
seek function seems just not to work. Plenty of other people reported
the same or similar issues. Which is it?

Frankly, not supporting correctly such a basic functionality is quite
unacceptable (any dirty cheap portable MP3 player can do that properly;
no excuses!).


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Re: [slim] Wadia 170 iTransport vs Slimdevices Transporter - initial impressions

2008-08-27 Thread BigTony

Sorry, I was confused. I assume that the Transporter in Digital out mode
will sound the same as the SB3, except you'll have support for 24/96
FLAC etc.
If there both using the same DAC there will be no sound difference, all
they are doing is sending the same digital data to the DAC. 
The Wadia seems an expensive way to get Digital out from an IPod.

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Re: [slim] Understanding Replay Gain

2008-08-27 Thread cliveb

liffy99;332642 Wrote: 
 So 89db SPL is an absolute measure, not a relative one.
I failed to explain that SPL stands for Sound Pressure Level. 0dB
SPL is defined as a pressure change of 20uPa (microPascals), and is
generally accepted as the threshold of human hearing. (For reference,
normal atmospheric pressure is about 100 kiloPascals, so the quietest
noise a human can detect is one that varies ambient pressure by about
one part in 5 billion).

liffy99;332642 Wrote: 
 With RG switched in I'm now listening at abou 70 for the same loudness
 as before. Just feels kind of close to the max output on the dial of 89
 (even though, logarithmically, it is using only a little more than one
 hundredth of the max power available (on average).
If you're referring to the volume scale on a Squeezebox, then it goes
up to 100, not 89. Each number represents 0.5dB, so when you're
listening at 70, that's 15dB below the Squeezebox's maximum output.


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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Boom?

2008-08-27 Thread gorman

It's coming out left and right, I'd say Logitech would do good in
issuing an official statement regarding the product... :)


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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Boom?

2008-08-27 Thread Howard Passman

Still says expected shipping date Sept 2nd-Sept 8th.  We shall see.

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Re: [slim] how do you see the playlist on controller

2008-08-27 Thread Khuli

Skunk;332239 Wrote: 
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/ControllerUI

Hmm... Items in the playlist can be deleted by pushing *ADD* while
highlighted.
I never would have guessed that!


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Re: [slim] Wadia 170 iTransport vs Slimdevices Transporter - initial impressions

2008-08-27 Thread browellm

Off-topic:

Jose, I would get an admin to change your user name, or that email
address will be spam-tastic before very long.


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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Boom?

2008-08-27 Thread jeffmeh

The leak has certainly created a lot of buzz on the web.  I am not
implying that it was intentional, but if the product is solid and hits
the market soon then the early press might be advantageous.  I suspect
that there are people out there who want one of these even more,
because they cannot yet have it, lol.


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[slim] Transporter not accepting SquezeCenter commands

2008-08-27 Thread Valentino

...or so it seems.
When applying new settings they are not handled by Transporter on many
occasions.

Typical: GUI stuff like screensaver type and delay.

Any ideas?

(My first post. Please be gentle.)


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Re: [slim] Transporter not accepting SquezeCenter commands

2008-08-27 Thread Michael Herger
Hi Valentino,

welcome to the SqueezeBox forums.

 ...or so it seems.

Is this limited to Transporter? What browser are you using?

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Re: [slim] Crestron Module for Transporter?

2008-08-27 Thread Speed

Hi Edge,

The Media Realms Crestron module controls all Slimdevices players as it
sends commands the server which in turn controls the player. You can
download a demo module to see if it fulfills your requirements.

http://modules.mediarealms.co.uk


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[slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread thekirbyfake

I'm considering a change to a cable internet from my phoneline internet
and the cable company (Virgin) tells me I'll get a DSL router as my
existing ADSL router won't work with cable.

Firstly will the SQB3 work with a DSL router?  (I assume this is a
simple yes?)

Secondly I had to buy a stronger ADSL router because one of my units is
in a conservatory and the signal has to travel through an outside wall. 
I'm assuming the standard DSL router they'll provide will be weak so can
I plug the ADSL router into the DSL router to get the internet radio
stations and keep the existing SQB wireless network via my old router?

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Re: [slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread elziko

thekirbyfake;332818 Wrote: 
 I'm considering a change to a cable internet from my phoneline internet
 and the cable company (Virgin) tells me I'll get a DSL router as my
 existing ADSL router won't work with cable.
 
 Firstly will the SQB3 work with a DSL router?  (I assume this is a
 simple yes?)
 
 Secondly I had to buy a stronger ADSL router because one of my units is
 in a conservatory and the signal has to travel through an outside wall. 
 I'm assuming the standard DSL router they'll provide will be weak so can
 I plug the ADSL router into the DSL router to get the internet radio
 stations and keep the existing SQB wireless network via my old router?
 
 Thanks

I think there is a little confusion here - when you say Virgin, I
assume you mean Virgin Media and you're in the UK?

Firstly, ADSL if a variant of DSL - as far as I understand it all
consumer DSL is ADSL.

At the moment you more than likely have ADSL with which you are using
an ADSL wireless router. This is a wireless router with an integrated
ADSL modem.

If you are changing to Virgin Media cable then they will supply you
with a cable modem so you'll need to buy a standard wireless router
that you will plug your cable modem into.

You will (almost certainly) not be able to plug the Virgin Media cable
modem into your ADSL wireless router.

If you are changing to cable then what the cable company said about
changing from an ADSL router to a DSL router is pretty much nonsense.

Once everything is set up SBs shoudld work with any router.

I hope that clears things up a little.


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Re: [slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread elziko

Also if it is Virgin Media you are heading for then this may be useful:

http://www.abcde.co.uk/virginmedia/broadband-faq.html

...especially the STM part at the end that can be quite annoying if you
do a lot of downloading.


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Re: [slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread simbo

You -may- be able to use your existing ADSL wireless router as a
wireless range extender to the Virgin cable router (as mentioned, you
will certainly not be able to use your existing router in place of the
Virgin one). You should check the documentation for your router to see
if it supports such an option.


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Re: [slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread elziko

simbo;332827 Wrote: 
 You -may- be able to use your existing ADSL wireless router as a
 wireless range extender to the Virgin cable router (as mentioned, you
 will certainly not be able to use your existing router in place of the
 Virgin one). You should check the documentation for your router to see
 if it supports such an option.


I'm not sure if he'll get a router from Virgin media - just a cable
modem.


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Re: [slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread simbo

elziko;332829 Wrote: 
 I'm not sure if he'll get a router from Virgin media - just a cable
 modem.
Good point... but assuming it's wireless (I believe Virgin's are), the
range extender approach should still work if the existing router
supports it.


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Re: [slim] Understanding Replay Gain

2008-08-27 Thread Mark Lanctot

cliveb;332774 Wrote: 
 0dB SPL is defined as a pressure change of 20uPa (microPascals), and is
 generally accepted as the threshold of human hearing.

Err, shouldn't that be 1 dB, not 0?


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Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread m_l

Since you already have an iPod check this out:

http://www.redwineaudio.com/iMod.html

Vinnie modded my Photo iPod man what a difference it made. I use it
mainly in the car. Compared to stock it's night and day. It's also so
much better than my car CD player [Kenwood excelon with burr brown
DAC's]  Voices are clearer, bass is tigher and just the overall sound
is so much better. Read some reviews and decide if it's worth it to
you. If you are after better sound you can not go wrong. And Vinnie
does great work. Oh and I also run the Rockbox firmware :)


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Re: [slim] SBC: Now Playing Wrong - Not Refreshing

2008-08-27 Thread renkinj

I have the same problem. In fact, I have it s much it really is an
issue. I don't yet have a solution and just started my search for one
about 1 1/2 minutes ago. If you find one please PM me and i will do the
same for you.

I also have another problem, more lately, when I choose a song on the
controller within an album it plays a different song than the one I
chose. I think this is an issue with the random setting, but I need to
explore it further too. Do you, or anyone else, find anything similar?
It does not seem to do this on the computer, only the controller.


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Re: [slim] how do you see the playlist on controller

2008-08-27 Thread Skunk

Khuli;332793 Wrote: 
 
 I never would have guessed that!

I know, right?

I added that bit to the wiki, but wonder how people who don't visit the
web site learn about leet tricks like these. I never got a printed
manual so I'm not sure if it was in there or not.

A more picture oriented and easy to read html or pdf document for
getting started would help overcome the 'sonos is expensive but
squeezebox is techy' argument, IMO. IIRC that was the jist of Maxim's
one page review of network streamers in their latest issue.


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[slim] how to get last.fm ito SB duet?

2008-08-27 Thread hammond

I have signed in and can log in and see my music choices, but cant find
any ways to access last-fm on duet?

anyone who knows where or how to install or see it?


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Re: [slim] iPhone application

2008-08-27 Thread ds2021

Now it's personal.


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Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread gowger

Thanks m_l , a couple of surprises in there for me. First one is that
they have a wolfson DAC in the later generation ipods! Also I was
reminded there of the line out that's available through the proprietary
docking socket, which given the previous points might make a difference
to sound quality just by using that instead of the headphone socket.

That mod looks like something I'd definitely like to try. Even if
posting a working device off to someone on the internet to break it
open and modify it seems a little mad. :-)

Damn, it looks like Vinnie charges $250 for the mod! Ok so I was given
this machine, but that's not far off the original price back when the
apple marketing machine was peaking. Or is that the price for a
ordering a modded ipod, it's not that clear from the site. I'll ask him
and post the response.

I mean what are we talking inside the box, a couple of capacitors?


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Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread Nonreality

gowger;332705 Wrote: 
 Crikey, fast reponse here! 
 
 Thanks for the interesting points folks. 
 
 I don't even know where the original headphones are for the ipod! They
 were irrelevant. I'm using little sennheiser ones, they kind of hook
 into your ear. They sound pretty good. I used to use a big pair of
 sennheisers but your right the ipod couldn't drive them, at all!
 
 But where you really notice is when you plug it into something decent.
 Fair point on the fact that your usually jogging or driving, or in my
 case cycling a lot. Depends what your driving though :-) An smooth audi
 with bose isn't bad :-) 
 
 For cycling though someone's gotta make a pair of headphones that are
 aerodynamic, the wind roar is the biggest problem on the bike!
 
 I'm kind of surprised that the good DAC in the SB (2 in my case)
 wouldn't be possible to fit into a compact machine, I would expect the
 voltage to be pretty low for the chip like. But of course there's a lot
 more to it than that by the sounds of things. for the sound of things
 :-P 
 
 I wouldn't worry about the power supply though a battery would be
 totally smooth I expect
 
 I didn't realise there was much of a difference between line outs and
 headphone outputs but it sounds pretty unlikely that anyone would
 bother to engineer a proper line out supply, unless it was some kind of
 professional device I guess. Which would probably imply a price as 
 hefty as it's weight.

When you plug it into other devices, like your car, are you using the
dock connector line out or the headphone jack.  Big difference.  You
can get connector cables that have the dock on one side and mini phone
plug on the other. 10-12 bucks and they make a world of difference
bypassing the headphone jack.  You won't have volume control so you
have to plug into something that does.  I first discovered this with my
rockboxed Nano. I almost bought a headphone amp just so I could go out
of the line out for headphones too.  I bought some Westone headphones
instead. They are the most comfortable in the ear I've ever worn.  I
can sleep with them in and not notice. The sound quality is up there
with the best.  You might want to look into them too. I use the UM2
dual driver version. Maybe next year for the amp.


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Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread jeebers

CatBus;332694 Wrote: 
 Let me preface this by saying that you're very unlikely to get
 SB3-quality audio from a portable.  So just let this requirement go,
 and your choices start looking better.
 
 I'm a RockBox user myself, and I personally use an iAudio X5.  For what
 it is, the audio quality is quite good.  I've also heard good things
 about iRiver players, and I believe there may even be some older (and
 possibly discontinued?) models out there with digital outputs.

I use Rockbox on an old iRiver H140 (upgraded to a 60GB drive), and the
sound quality is very good.  It has an optical out if that floats your
boat.  If you're happy without colour screens, don't mind it being a
bit on the chucky side etc than you can't go far wrong.  Unfortunately,
of course, it is discontinued, but ebay may be your friend.

I've never blindtested it against my SB3 to be honest, but maybe one
day when I'm bored...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRiver_H140


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Re: [slim] how to get last.fm ito SB duet?

2008-08-27 Thread damager

You need to go into SqueezeCenter and make sure you have neabled the
last.fm plugin.  You will also enter your signin info there.  Then it
should appear under Music Services off the Main Menu on the
Controller.


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Re: [slim] one album shows as four albums?

2008-08-27 Thread hammond

okay. strange behavior here.

for the first, even if SB shows the albums as four albums, Itunes does
not. in itunes it is one album.

I did now drop the itunes and went for the folder type of reading my
archive instead.

there it does show the album as one album!

I have checked and rechecked and the Year tag is 1988 on all songs in
the album.

I even cleared all the tags exept, song, number, album and artist.


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Re: [slim] Anyone used Songbird?

2008-08-27 Thread bobkoure

Thanks for pointing this one out - I've about given up on softsqueeze as
a way to listen when working at my PC (periodic hangs)...
I guess softsqueeze is really supposed to only be a demo, so I'm
expecting too much (?)


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Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread earthbased

jeebers;332855 Wrote: 
 I use Rockbox on an old iRiver H140 (upgraded to a 60GB drive), and the
 sound quality is very good.  It has an optical out if that floats your
 boat.  If you're happy without colour screens, don't mind it being a
 bit on the chucky side etc than you can't go far wrong.  Unfortunately,
 of course, it is discontinued, but ebay may be your friend.
 
 I've never blindtested it against my SB3 to be honest, but maybe one
 day when I'm bored...
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRiver_H140

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Re: [slim] Internet Radio is all Hiss now

2008-08-27 Thread jrfuda

Thanks,

I tried both direct and proxy (through SC) to the stations and both had
the same results.

The problem resolved a couple of days ago on its own. I'm blaming my
boradband connection - ATT Uverse - for the problem, since I did
nothing new to my hard/software setup. Maybe they were messing with net
radio or something?


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Re: [slim] portable sound quality?

2008-08-27 Thread earthbased

gowger;332685 Wrote: 
 I figured this would be one forum where people might know and care about
 sound quality in portable digital music players.
 
 I'm wondering if it's possible to get a sound quality as good as a
 slimplayer from any portable music player, that supports flac?
 
 I have an ipod, I didn't buy it by the way! I flashed it with rockbox
 firmware to play ogg and flac files, which makes it a tolerable machine
 but I swear the sound quality out of it is totally shite!
 
 Whenever I put on the slim player then I'm amazed at the difference
 with the same file, even a with 128KBps mp3s
 
 I've heard the the Bang  Olufsen player is pretty good, but no flac or
 ogg support. The codecs are of course far too free to be possible to
 include in a commercial device. 
 
 Is there any portable music player manufacture with an attitude like
 Slim Devices?
 
 I want something like the ipod with rockbox firmware and the lovely DAC
 that you get in a slim player.

My 2 cents: when you go portable you are going to be dealing with
background noise and hotel rooms with portable speakers.  So don't try
to achieve listening room quality.  My advice is to rip to high bit
rate OGG (or batch convert from FLAC), then buy the Koss Porta Pro for
head phones with good bass.  I use a Tivoli Songbook unit for hotel
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Re: [slim] one album shows as four albums?

2008-08-27 Thread ModelCitizen

hammond;332859 Wrote: 
 
 I even cleared all the tags exept, song, number, album and artist.
There are certainly stray tags there, whether you can see them or not.
SqueezeCenter does have any tag writing capability (indeed it can't
change your music files at all). The won't be any SqueezeCenter bugs
concerning tags in the way you mention (these simple bugs were ironed
out years ago, if indeed there were any to begin with!).

Get a tagger that will definitely remove *all* tags and start from
scratch. 

I use MP3Tag and when I've had a similar problem, as long as I've set
the program to remove all possible flavours of tags (via
settings/preferences), it works a treat.

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Re: [slim] Anyone used Songbird?

2008-08-27 Thread maggior

Softsqueeze worked well for me, but I haven't used it in a while.  It is
pretty heavy weight being a Java app.  I just found it easier to
navigate my library using the web UI rather than clicking on the remote
buttons with a mouse.  The UI in SQ would sometimes get sluggish and
occasionally hang on my machine.

The successor to softsqueeze (squeezeplay) will be coming in 7.3, so I
think Softsqueeze has essentially been End of Lifed.  I don't think
there have been any fixes made in it in a while.  This may account for
the instability that you see.


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Re: [slim] art problem - ghost cover.jpg's

2008-08-27 Thread ctbarker32

Well, I continue to work through this. I find that if I touch the album
files (flac) using Mediamonkey (my preferred album management tool) it
forces SC 7.1 to re-look at the directory and to add the correct album
art. Also, I have come to realize that internally SC 7.1 seems to
convert all album art names to cover.jpg independent to what the
actual names are which in my case are all Album Art.jpg?

So doing it the hard and long way I'll eventually get SC 7.1 to
recognize all of my art!

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Re: [slim] Understanding Replay Gain

2008-08-27 Thread cliveb

Mark Lanctot;332832 Wrote: 
 Err, shouldn't that be 1 dB, not 0?
Well, I can't say with 100% certainty. You could be right. But I was
fairly sure the threshold of hearing is defined to be 0dB SPL.

Remember that 0dB doesn't mean nothing in an absolute sense. It's
just a reference point on a logarithmic scale.


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Re: [slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread cliveb

elziko;332829 Wrote: 
 I'm not sure if he'll get a router from Virgin media - just a cable
 modem.
Unless things have changed, you'll just get a cable modem. You'll have
to buy your own router.

I've been on cable broadband (NTL, now Virgin) for several years and as
a general rule it's pretty reliable. But unless you have a specific
problem with your ADSL, I have to ask why you are thinking of changing.
Quality of service from Virgin varies according to your geographic
location. I'm supposedly on a 10Mb conection, but I've never seen
download speeds higher than about 7Mb - it's usually around the 5-6
mark. And I am led to believe that I'm in a fairly good area!

Also, cable is even more asymmetric than ADSL: the technology simply
isn't well suited to high upload rates. Upstream on Virgin 10MB is just
512kb (typically about 400kb in practice), so if you want to do a lot of
uploading, think about that.


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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Boom?

2008-08-27 Thread EnochLight

jeffmeh;332808 Wrote: 
 The leak has certainly created a lot of buzz on the web...  I suspect
 that there are people out there who want one of these even more,
 because they cannot yet have it, lol.

I would be one of those people! ;^P

Seriously though, I have been waiting fo a SB Boom since I bought my
1st (of three) SB's over 2  1/2 years ago - I hope this is a real
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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Boom?

2008-08-27 Thread Squid

oreillymj;332585 Wrote: 
 
 It's in page 30 of their brochure
 http://images.krefel.be/krefel_promo/folder_2008-35/Code_Krefel15_NL.html
 , but when you click on the embedded link the URL returns this
 message
 
 Dit product is momenteel niet beschikbaar op onze e-shop 
 
 .. which I'm guessing means We shouldn't have had this on our online
 store just yet

That's very interesting. Krefel is one of the larger chains here in
Belgium. That brochure just looks like their regular brochure. In fact,
I got a bunch of paper spam in the mailbox yesterday so it may very well
be in it. Will check when I'm at home.
If that's the case, then a) this really looks like it's for real, b)
it's surely very surprising that Logitech has not done any official
announcement at all yet.
BTW, the text translates to This product is currently not available in
our e-shop.

PS: actually Fuzzball76 seems to be from Belgium too and confirmed that
a hardcopy of that brochure has been distributed in Belgium!


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Re: [slim] art problem - ghost cover.jpg's

2008-08-27 Thread Uluen

Well, the files are either cached serverside and/or in a db.
If deleting the cache doesn't work, emptying the correct table should.


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Re: [slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread thekirbyfake

cliveb;332881 Wrote: 
 Unless things have changed, you'll just get a cable modem. You'll have
 to buy your own router.
 
 I've been on cable broadband (NTL, now Virgin) for several years and as
 a general rule it's pretty reliable. But unless you have a specific
 problem with your ADSL, I have to ask why you are thinking of changing.
 Quality of service from Virgin varies according to your geographic
 location. I'm supposedly on a 10Mb conection, but I've never seen
 download speeds higher than about 7Mb - it's usually around the 5-6
 mark. And I am led to believe that I'm in a fairly good area!
 
 Also, cable is even more asymmetric than ADSL: the technology simply
 isn't well suited to high upload rates. Upstream on Virgin 10MB is just
 512kb (typically about 400kb in practice), so if you want to do a lot of
 uploading, think about that.

It is indeed Vrigin Media and the reason to change is if we move TV
services, phoneline, broadband and mobiles over we'll save £70/mth.

The chap I spoke to today said they provide the cable modem and a
wireless router which is plugged into the modem.  He then said it's a
DSL router as opposed to an ADSL router.

As per the original post my ADSL router is a powerful one and I'm
assuming the free Virgin one won't be.

If that's the case then my plan is to go cable  cable modem  DSL
router

Then NAS  ADSL router  SQB

But can I use the DSL router as the internet connection for the ADSL
router to get internet radio?

PS thanks for the tips on STM and upload speeds.  I'm not a heavy user
so that's adequate for me.


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Re: [slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread maggior

I actually perfer separate devices.  My experience has been that the
all in one devices (modem, router, wireless access point) aren't very
flexible.  For my DSL service, I actually had to pay a little more to
get just a modem rather than what they call an internet gateway. 
This allowed me to use a Linksys WRT54GS, which I can load custom
firmware on and easily upgrade the antennas.

Cable modems and DSL modems are entirely different technologies.  I
don't know why the person you spoke with would tell you that your cable
internet service would use DSL.

With separate devices (modem and router/wireless access point), you
will have the flexability to buy a wireless router that will suit your
wireless range needs.  With an all-in-one device, you are stuck with
what the phone company or cable company make available.


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Re: [slim] how do you see the playlist on controller

2008-08-27 Thread maggior

Thanks for the heads-up on this wiki.  I discovered some of these on my
own, such as the volume adjustment witht he scroll wheel after you
press one of the volume buttons.

It's too bad that this information is not included in the manual for
the product.  Things such as the volume adjustment and click add to
remove a track aren't exactly intuitive, yet they are very useful
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Re: [slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread thekirbyfake

Maybe I'm not explaining myself properly.

I will be provided with separate a cable modem and DSL router.  I don't
want an all-in-one cable/router.

I can go and buy a stronger DSL router but I already have a fairly
decent ADSL router which I was planning to continue using with my SQB
set up.

My question is how will I get internet connectivity for the SQB?


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Re: [slim] Wired or wireless

2008-08-27 Thread TiredLegs

thing-fish;332627 Wrote: 
 LOL.  In all seriousness, just use the single socket you already have,
 plug a switch into that, and plug however many other ethernet devices
 you want into your switch!
If I understand correctly, the OP does not already have any Ethernet
socket. He's going to get either one or two installed. The incremental
cost to get two is so insignificant that there's no reason not to.


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Re: [slim] Wired or wireless

2008-08-27 Thread TiredLegs

pfarrell;332317 Wrote: 
 Al Jones wrote:
  Given that my wirelss is perfect, is there any reason to consider
  wiring my Transporter?
 
 There is no reason not to do it. The cost of dragging two wires over
 one
 is nothing. Do it.
 
 You will be glad you did at some time.
 
 When I pulled wire through my house (long after we moved in, walls up,
 etc.) I pulled three CAT5 to my wife's office, three to my kids'
 bedroom
 and six to my office. There are three in my living room, one for the
 Transporter and two for general laptops.
 
 And yes, I do have WiFI through the house.
 
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I'm with you Pat. A couple of years ago, I spent a few days pulling
more than 1000 feet of Cat5e throughout my home, for two Ethernet
cables to each room, including bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining
room, and den. One of the Cat5 cables pipes audio from my living room
to my kitchen, via audio baluns. I've got three SB3's, and with wired
connections I never have to worry about interference or bandwidth
issues. I also have WiFi in the home, but I only use that for portable
devices, such as a Nokia N800 internet tablet.


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Re: [slim] Wired or wireless

2008-08-27 Thread Peter
thing-fish wrote:
 peter;332248 Wrote: 
   
 I'd put in another double socket to future-proof things ;)
 

 LOL.  In all seriousness, just use the single socket you already have,
 plug a switch into that, and plug however many other ethernet devices
 you want into your switch!  I'm actually doing exactly that, not for
 hi-fi but because I have a jack that a networked printer is plugged
 into and am adding a Tivo to that room.  Instead of going wireless with
 the Tivo I'm going to plug the Tivo and the printer into a switch, and
 the switch into the ethernet jack.
   

I'm serious. Not everything that goes over cat5 is ethernet. I send 
audiovideo from my server over it using a pair of baluns. You can't do 
that over a switch. Who knows what else can be doen over cat5 now or in 
the future?

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Re: [slim] Wired or wireless

2008-08-27 Thread Pat Farrell
thing-fish wrote:
 LOL.  In all seriousness, just use the single socket you already have,
 plug a switch into that,

There are limits to the number of switches in line of an Ethernet
connection. You can't just daisey chain switch into switch into switch
forever.

In my house, the broadband comes into a firewall/nat and then to a
switch, which talks to home runs of CAT5 to each location. So there is
already a switch between my Transporter and a router. One more is
allowed by the spec, but I think that's the limit.

Wire is nearly free, its the labor to pull it that costs big bucks.

I've pulled nearly 1600 linear feet of Cat5 cable in my house, and its
only a 2000 sqft center hall colonial.


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Re: [slim] ADSL vs DSL

2008-08-27 Thread maggior

A DSL router is used with DSL service.  DSL is not provided by a cable
company.  I believe what you refer to as a DSL router is just a generic
router.

There is some confusion of terms here.  Unless in the UK a generic
router is referred to as a DSL router.

With your current setup with your ADSL router - is it an all-in-one
unit or is it connected to a separate modem?  If it is 2 separate
units, then I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use it with your
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Re: [slim] SqueezeNetwork works, SqueezeCenter does not

2008-08-27 Thread y360

If I understand you correctly, your problem is that localhost does not
get resolved to 127.0.0.1 ?

If the server were running on Windows, you should have checked the
existence of the following line in file
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

127.0.0.1   localhost

Mac has a similar file /etc/hosts 
Google to find how it can be modified

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Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator for SlimServer

2008-08-27 Thread moley6knipe


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Question: Does Album Catalogue Creator (RC5+) create a trustworthy
output?

- Yes
- Yes but with minor issues
- No
- It does not work at all


moley6knipe;311859 Wrote: 
 Under SqueezeCenter settings  Music Library  Articles to ignore when
 sorting I've entered A An The which means SC sorts the same as
 iTunes.
 
 However, I've got three tracks by a band called A, as in just a
 capital letter A on it's own.  All three tracks are on different
 compilations, which are recongnised as comps by SC, and indeed are
 listed under Various Artists when I create a catalogue with ACC

Just to follow up on this; I've now changed SqueezeCenter settings 
Music Library  Articles to ignore when sorting from A An The to
simply The.  I've just run another catalogue with version 1, and I
still get the artist A showing at the start of the list even though
they're tracks only present on comps.

I've done loads of clear and rescans since my previous post, and indeed
have deleted the cache folder several times.

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Re: [slim] Wired or wireless

2008-08-27 Thread Peter
Pat Farrell wrote:
 thing-fish wrote:
   
 LOL.  In all seriousness, just use the single socket you already have,
 plug a switch into that,
 

 There are limits to the number of switches in line of an Ethernet
 connection. You can't just daisey chain switch into switch into switch
 forever.
   

Realistically, in a house setup, adding a peripheral switch in every 
room, you'd end up with a maximum of 3. That shouldn't be any problem. 
BTW, aren't you talking about hubs? If not, what is the maximum of 
switches in 'line'?

 In my house, the broadband comes into a firewall/nat and then to a
 switch, which talks to home runs of CAT5 to each location. So there is
 already a switch between my Transporter and a router. One more is
 allowed by the spec, but I think that's the limit.
   
Really?

 Wire is nearly free, its the labor to pull it that costs big bucks.

 I've pulled nearly 1600 linear feet of Cat5 cable in my house, and its
 only a 2000 sqft center hall colonial.
   

I have thick concrete walls in a 4 story house. I'm extremely lucky they 
already pulled cat5 for the phones so I can use that. Pulling new 
connections is almost impossible. I've got an extra switch in my study. 
Of course, my main gigabit switch is plugged into my home router which 
has a 5 port switch built in already. So that's three in line for the 
stuff in the study. No problems yet.

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[slim] Squeezebox won't connect to Squeezecenter

2008-08-27 Thread Big AAC

Ok so i've been using my SB3 and Duet for months without problems and
tonight i try to play my SB3 (using the duet remote) and it won't
connect to Squeezecenter or Squeezenetwork?!?  I'm using a QNAP and can
connect to that without problem, but when i try to connect to
squeezecenter (http://192.168.0.20:9001/ ) i get nothing?!?

Last night i was listening to internet radio via squeezecenter and had
my SB3 on a timer to switch off.

can't really think of what else has changed to make it not work

any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [slim] Anyone used Songbird?

2008-08-27 Thread bobkoure

Actually, all I wanted was a working squeezeslave (receives stream input
and hands it off to the system sound drivers). No need for a UI as I'm
using the web UI when at the PC.
Sadly, it doesn't seem to work in win32 (lost a number of hours to
trying to get it to work).
I've been meaning to try moose, but no time.
Seems like softsqueeze can tell when I'm behind deadline on some
project and picks then to start acting up.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox won't connect to Squeezecenter

2008-08-27 Thread Big AAC

Just started up SSOTS (which squeezecenter was installed through) and it
says
 
 SqueezeCenter
 Version: 7.0.1-19705
 Process status : PID 909, state S (sleeping)
 Memory usage   : 7 MB total, 1 MB (15%) RSS
 Uptime : 01:00, 00:00 (0.0%) CPU time
 Extra args : --httpport 9001
 SSODS/SC flags : autostart noupnp
 

Not sure why its sleeping? and more importantly how do i wake it up,
thanks

EDIT: just tried to 'start' it and the following came up

 
 Error: Only root can do that.
 
 The log file might reveal the reason for the failure.
 
 SqueezeCenter 7.0.1-19705 is running with PID 909 and SqueezeCenter's
 MySQL is not running.
 



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[slim] New SC 7.1 and Duet update problems with remove from playlist

2008-08-27 Thread allanweinman

Hi,

I updated my squeezecenter to 7.1 last week, and then when I took my
duet controller out of its charging cradle it also downloaded and
updated itself.  Anyway, ever since then I cannot remove the last entry
from the playlist any kind of internet radio or anything that streams. 
I know I used to do this as it seemed to be the only way to stop it
from playing besides pressing pause or turning the squeezebox off.

Anyone else notice this new problem?

Allan


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Re: [slim] Great deal for us Canadians.... Not!

2008-08-27 Thread allanweinman

try www.themacgroup.ca, it is $399:

https://www.themacgroup.ca/store/index.php?c=rootproduct=SQBOXDUET

Tigerdirect is usually more expensive for everything!  And their return
policy sucks.


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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Boom?

2008-08-27 Thread fuzzball76

Guys, 

it was in the real paper mail Krefel Brochure this week.
It was on wifisound.nl weeks ago, and Logitech asked me to keep a bit
silent about it, which I did. 
the user manual was on slimdevices.com early august as well

So there is no doubt it is real. 

So we're just waiting for an exact release date (And price for the
US?)

Peter


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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Boom?

2008-08-27 Thread Espen

I assume the company will say something official about this device at
IFA which starts on the 29th. At least if shipping is supposed to start
as early as September.


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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Boom?

2008-08-27 Thread kolding

fuzzball76;332972 Wrote: 
 
 So we're just waiting for an exact release date (And price for the
 US?)
 

Well, the Wiki lists today (the 27th) as the tentative release date for
7.2, with it's secret bonus feature.

Googling will get you a couple companies which are listing prices
around $300, although none list a release date.

Please be soon, the anticipation is killing me.  Ok, maybe not killing
me, but I do want one for my bedroom.  And maybe the laundry room.  And
maybe... oh hell, can I get a bulk discount ;-)

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[slim] Help!! Cant connect to Squeezecenter

2008-08-27 Thread 99-dk

Hi,

Got a smalle problem
After updating my ReadyNAS Duo with the nightly build
SqueezeCenter_7.1.1~22908.bin, I was'nt able to connect to
Squeezecenter anymore. (IP 10.0.0.xxx:9000)
I downloaded a in file called CleanSlimServer_0.1.bin updated the NAS
again, then again with the SqueezeCenter_7.1.1~22908.bin... still same
result.
Since it did'nt work I just went ahead an uploaded the
SqueezeCenter_7.0.1.bin, hoping it would help but it did'nt. I've
rebooted the ReadyNAS every time
What am I doing wrong? and how can I get connected again?

Thx. for any help.


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Re: [slim] Duet Receiver Bridge Question

2008-08-27 Thread itm

I have a Duet receiver upstairs and a media centre next to my wireless
access point downstairs. Is it possible to switch the Duet controller
between using the receiver and the wireless access point, depending on
where I am in the house?


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Re: [slim] Controller: Doesn't stay on track!

2008-08-27 Thread renkinj

I have the same problem. I will play with it more thoughtfully tonight.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox no longer connects

2008-08-27 Thread humhead

radish;332733 Wrote: 
 Just for testing, can you try disabling any WEP/WPA security on the
 router? There have been a number of issues where it appears the SB is
 connected, and the only problem is DHCP, but in fact there's an
 encryption problem.

Worth a try. Right? I disabled the WEP and tried to connect.
Interesting effect: after re entering the SSID so I could set up a no
encryption connection it would not connect to the wireless network at
all.

Then I re enabled WEP (original setup), and not only did it connect,
but obtained an ip address from the router. WHOA Nelly, that was weird.
Moved it back to the original location and it worked perfectly.

Any insight into this strange behavior? Or should I just enjoy the fact
that its working again?

In any case thanks much for the hints.

Vic


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Re: [slim] how to get last.fm ito SB duet?

2008-08-27 Thread hammond

I have done that

both the Last.fm Audioscrobbler (v1.0) and the Last.fm Radio (v1.0)
is enabled.

I have tried to restart the squeezebox and the squeezecenter. but no
last.fm in my SB.
in the music services menu I have mp3 music locker and live music
archive.

any ideas?


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Re: [slim] Controller: Doesn't stay on track!

2008-08-27 Thread forestmountain

aubuti;332275 Wrote: 
 Yes, I understand what you're trying to do, and am equally puzzled why
 it works on mine and not on yours. What are your screensaver settings
 on the SBC? I have Now Playing for my screensaver when playing, a delay
 of 20 seconds, and screen dimming after 30 seconds. My SBC firmware is
 r2873 (saying latest isn't really that helpful when there are
 frequent updates).

I have same settings apart from 10 sec delay. I have set it to max, but
no difference.

Something is weird here, made a software update just to be sure. I was
mistaken; the controller was/is only on r2097. The software upgrade
does download, verify and restarts but stays on r2097.

Don't know if this has anything to do with the original problem. I'll
see if I can wipe the controller and start all over with a fresh
firmware (if that is possible at all).

Regards
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Re: [slim] how to get last.fm ito SB duet?

2008-08-27 Thread andyg

What country did you select in your SqueezeNetwork account?  That's the
most likely reason you wouldn't see Last.fm.


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Re: [slim] Squeezecenter won't start anymore

2008-08-27 Thread r3w2000

Found this thread after experiencing the same problem yesterday. 
Apparently MySQL was corrupted.  I uninstalled 7.01 but the old MySQL
folder wasn't removed.  When I tried installing 7.1 (using folder
Squeezecenter), the old MySQL folder still caused problems
(Squeezecenter wouldn't start). I re-installed 7.1 using a new
destination folder (e.g. Squeezecenter1) and it worked fine.  

I can't remove the old folder no matter what I try.  

I'm also using Vista on a Dell Inspiron.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox no longer connects

2008-08-27 Thread radish

Sunspots :) Seriously, going through those steps clears out all the
network settings which is sometimes useful if something somewhere got
out of whack. You mentioned entering the SSID, which implies SSID
broadcast is off on the router - that has been known to cause problems
with some devices.


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[slim] why wont the SB duet sort albums after years?

2008-08-27 Thread hammond

why wont the SB duet sort albums after years?

it does, in squeezecenter, but not on the squeezebox.

should not those be the same?

is there any way to update them together?


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Re: [slim] Duet Receiver Bridge Question

2008-08-27 Thread radish

itm;333000 Wrote: 
 I have a Duet receiver upstairs and a media centre next to my wireless
 access point downstairs. Is it possible to switch the Duet controller
 between using the receiver and the wireless access point, depending on
 where I am in the house?

Not automatically, you'd have to do it manually. I think there's an
enhancement request already open to have it switch between AP's based
on signal strength - it wouldn't be a bad idea to add the SBR to that.


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Re: [slim] Fast forward/rewind on duet, with latest firmware and 7.1

2008-08-27 Thread Brian Ritchie

When the Song Position display appears, let go of the FF/RW button and
use the scroll wheel to change the track position. That's how it works
for me (using the vanilla 7.1 release). Considerably better than the
old 2-4-8x speedup, which I could never get to work properly.

I think I read the instructions either in the Release Notes for 7.1 or
in something that was linked from them.  I wonder how many more UI
tricks I'm missing; must have a good rummage through the wiki again
sometime...

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Re: [slim] Controller: Doesn't stay on track!

2008-08-27 Thread Mnyb

forestmountain;333015 Wrote: 
 I have same settings apart from 10 sec delay. I have set it to max, but
 no difference.
 
 Something is weird here, made a software update just to be sure. I was
 mistaken; the controller was/is only on r2097. The software upgrade
 does download, verify and restarts but stays on r2097.
 
 Don't know if this has anything to do with the original problem. I'll
 see if I can wipe the controller and start all over with a fresh
 firmware (if that is possible at all).
 
 Regards
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Which version of SqueezeCenter do you have ? controller versions are
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[slim] Linking different streams to multiple MP3 files

2008-08-27 Thread mrsean2k

Hi,

I'm using a combination of SqueezeCenter and the Alien BBC plugin to
allow me to listen to BBC Radio 7 in my Chumby.

As the Chumby currently lacks any way to select a specific stream on
SqueezeCenter, is it possible to set up SqueezeCenter to expose more
than one stream.mp3 URL, each of which is linked to a different
stream?

I guess I could get the same effect running multiple instances of
SqueezeCenter on different ports but that seems clumsy (not that this
request is elegant)

Thanks

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Re: [slim] Linking different streams to multiple MP3 files

2008-08-27 Thread andyg

Patches welcome, I could envision something like this:

http://server:9000/stream.mp3?play=http://url.to/radio7


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Re: [slim] Great deal for us Canadians.... Not!

2008-08-27 Thread justNigel

I had a good buying experience at the Mac Group store... reasonably
knowledgeable staff; decent price. Can't comment on their mail order
side, though.

Nigel


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Re: [slim] Anyone used Songbird?

2008-08-27 Thread bobkoure

OK - I just installed Moose.
It relies on SoftSqueeze or SqueezeSlave to play music locally on a PC.
Like -that's- going to be reliable.
On to SongBird...


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Re: [slim] Logitech Squeezebox Boom?

2008-08-27 Thread iPhone

kolding;332983 Wrote: 
 Well, the Wiki lists today (the 27th) as the tentative release date for
 7.2, with it's secret bonus feature.
 
 Googling will get you a couple companies which are listing prices
 around $300, although none list a release date.
 
 Please be soon, the anticipation is killing me.  Ok, maybe not killing
 me, but I do want one for my bedroom.  And maybe the laundry room.  And
 maybe... oh hell, can I get a bulk discount ;-)
 
 Eric

Hey Eric,

From your signature, it looks like you already have the First Slim
Devices through the SB3. Don't you need to order a Duet and then a
Transporter before thinking about a bulk order?


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Re: [slim] Squeezecenter won't start anymore

2008-08-27 Thread goon

r3w2000;333017 Wrote: 
 Found this thread after experiencing the same problem yesterday. 
 Apparently MySQL was corrupted.  I uninstalled 7.01 but the old MySQL
 folder wasn't removed.  When I tried installing 7.1 (using folder
 Squeezecenter), the old MySQL folder still caused problems
 (Squeezecenter wouldn't start). I re-installed 7.1 using a new
 destination folder (e.g. Squeezecenter1) and it worked fine.  
 
 I can't remove the old folder no matter what I try.  
 
 I'm also using Vista on a Dell Inspiron.


I was hoping it would work but no luck, SC tray still says starting.


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Re: [slim] Controller: Doesn't stay on track!

2008-08-27 Thread forestmountain

Mnyb;333035 Wrote: 
 Which version of SqueezeCenter do you have ? controller versions are
 updated  with some of them.

SqueezeCenter version: 7.0 - 17793 - I'll try tomorrow to update to
7.1

Regards
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[slim] Use Duet Controller To Select Transporter Coax Input

2008-08-27 Thread Stormboy

Hi

I am controlling a transporter with a duet controller.  I have sources
attached to the coax and toslink digital inputs.  I can select both
sources and get sound from them when I use the knob on the front of the
transporter.  However, when I try and select the digital inputs using
the duet controller, I can select the toslink input and get sound but I
cannot do so with the coax input.  Does anyone have any suggestions

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Re: [slim] Controller: Doesn't stay on track!

2008-08-27 Thread Mnyb

You might as well go for a 7.2 beta, 7.2 is very soon to be released.
if you go 7.1 take the 7.1.1 the slightly bugfixed one

Btw don't worry if 7.1 or 7.2 crash at the first start after install,
just delete your cache folder and start again, it will then
automatically build a new database.

They made some changes in dB something ? that require a rescan,
somewhere in 7.1 beta ? this happens automatically in many cases, but
in some cases it crash.

By cache folder i mean SqueezeCenters cache folder. you can find its
location by going to settings in SC then status and scroll down a bit.


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Re: [slim] Custom Mapping For MUTE Function

2008-08-27 Thread NFLnut

Anyone know why I can't get this to work?


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Re: [slim] Use Duet Controller To Select Transporter Coax Input

2008-08-27 Thread Mnyb

Yes if you are on fairly new version of SC and controller firmware I
would file a bug report.

The behavior you are describing looks like a bug to me, so your
probably not doing anything wrong.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30426

If you have very old versions I would upgrade to 7.2 and then decide.


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