[slim] Ipeng playback- Flac streaming to Apple Tv 3 with airplay-quality?
Hi, I just discovered the amazing playback feature on Ipeng and now use it to stream music to my apple tv with airplay. A lot of my music is stored as Flac files and I was wondering which quality they get played at when I stream them to the Apple tv from my IPad 4 or Ipod touch g3. Do they playback natively or in a comparable high qality format or do the files get transcoded to a lossy format? nordvest's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
JJZolx wrote: Adrian, is the patch working for you? I've just applied it to 7.7.2 and can't play the 'blankety-blank-blank (link removed to avoid error-on-posting message)' URL. Trying to play it from the web UI on the Touch I see Connecting.../Buffering xx% displayed in the NP screen. In the web UI it shows '128kbps CBR, OGG Internet Radio'. Do you have any of the actual URLs for the Absolute Radio streams? This is a good question, to which I'm determined to find the answer. Memford's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59245 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ipeng playback- Flac streaming to Apple Tv 3 with airplay-quality?
nordvest wrote: Hi, I just discovered the amazing playback feature on Ipeng and now use it to stream music to my apple tv with airplay. A lot of my music is stored as Flac files and I was wondering which quality they get played at when I stream them to the Apple tv from my IPad 4 or Ipod touch g3. Do they playback natively or in a comparable high qality format or do the files get transcoded to a lossy format? Apple TV can only work at 16 bit 48kbit/s. So all 'standard' CD red book music will be transcoded, IMHO transcoded very crudely. Apple Airport Express works at 16 bit 44.14kbit/s, therefore no transcoding required. Airplay works at 16 bit 44.14kbit/s so no transcoding for the wifi bit, although no error recovery. Dave DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services With the recent discussions about the longevity of MySB and the impact on online services, I thought we might take a gauge of how many people use online services and which ones. IF YOU DON'T USE ANY, PLEASE CHOOSE \NONE\ RATHER THAN NOT VOTING. Note this only covers services that are available via your SB right now, not ones that aren't supported (e.g. Google Music). simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services I use WiMP and voted other asplundj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53571 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services Should BBC iPlayer be considered an online service? ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services ModelCitizen wrote: Should BBC iPlayer be considered an online service? Yes it should, sorry! The poll is limited to 10 entries (plus I can't edit it anyway!). I suggest people who choose Other add a comment as you have. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ipeng playback- Flac streaming to Apple Tv 3 with airplay-quality?
If I understand you correctly there will be some alterations in the sample rate but will the bitrate remain lossless or does it get downsampled too? nordvest's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ipeng playback- Flac streaming to Apple Tv 3 with airplay-quality?
nordvest wrote: If I understand you correctly there will be some alterations in the sample rate but will the bitrate remain lossless or does it get downsampled too? Because the sample rate is changed, and it's not an easy multiple change, ALL bits will be altered, to try and replicate the same waveform as the original 16bit 44.14kbit/s FLAC file. This will in theory be lossless, as there is no attempt to reduce the content, but in reality it will not result in identical audio signals. Dave DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ipeng playback- Flac streaming to Apple Tv 3 with airplay-quality?
So the quality will be somewhat altered because of the resampling and that can lead to some degrading but there is no intentional downgrading. It will bew better than f.ex mp3 in 192/256kb? Thank you very much for your help! nordvest's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Pause a radio stream ...
I always thought Pause a rradio stream worked effectively as a mute ... I notice now for the first time that in fact it does actually pause the stream. Has it always been like this? Or am I losing the plot? castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
I always thought Pause a rradio stream worked effectively as a mute ... I notice now for the first time that in fact it does actually pause the stream. Has it always been like this? Or am I losing the plot? It would resume if you un-paused within a few minutes. But if you leave it paused for an hour, it would restart the stream. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Netgear extender streaming Squeezecentre
Ok, interesting query for those adept with pushing a stream connection. I'm running SqueezeCentre(LogitechMC) on my HTPC/server system in my house, then a 'Netgear WN3500RP Range Extender' (http://www.netgear.com/home/products/wireless-range-extenders/WN3500RP.aspx#) in my backyard workshop, which in turn feeds the Squeezebox3 player in the bungalow at the back of the property. The Extender has a 3.5mm jack to stream audio from Netgear Genie, Airplay or Apple devices. So, if I hook up an amp unit in the workshop, can anyone think of a way I could stream from Squeezecentre to the Extender? heffa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9939 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
castalla wrote: I always thought Pause a radio stream worked effectively as a mute ... I notice now for the first time that in fact it does actually pause the stream. Has it always been like this? Or am I losing the plot? The buffered time gets really long for lossy formats I would not be surprised if the player buffer holds over a minute , try stop instead orf pause then i think the stream will reinitiate . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Netgear extender streaming Squeezecentre
heffa wrote: Ok, interesting query for those adept with pushing a stream connection. I'm running SqueezeCentre(LogitechMC) on my HTPC/server system in my house, then a 'Netgear WN3500RP Range Extender' (http://www.netgear.com/home/products/wireless-range-extenders/WN3500RP.aspx#) in my backyard workshop, which in turn feeds the Squeezebox3 player in the bungalow at the back of the property. The Extender has a 3.5mm jack to stream audio from Netgear Genie, Airplay or Apple devices. So, if I hook up an amp unit in the workshop, can anyone think of a way I could stream from Squeezecentre to the Extender? Its not completely clear how the DLNA works on the Extender, but have you tried the UPnP/DLNA plugin on Squeezecentre? Though you will loose so much functionality you would be better off with a small laptop running SqueezePlay with a copy of your music library on it, or maybe some iPeng solution. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
Mnyb wrote: The buffered time gets really long for lossy formats I would not be surprised if the player buffer holds over a minute , try stop instead orf pause then i think the stream will reinitiate . There's no Stop on Touch or Squeezeplay castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
There's no Stop on Touch or Squeezeplay Touch and hold the pause button. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
castalla wrote: There's no Stop on Touch or Squeezeplay Touch: Press hold PAUSE, this becomes a Stop. No idea on SqueezePlay toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
When you pasuse a stream - the TCP connection stays up. Most radio stations (especially live/continuous vs short/fxied length programs) will reset the TCP connection after x minutes and so a few minutes of the stream may remain in the buffer. Some stations do nor seem to reset the TCP connection and so the pause seems to work for a long time. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
castalla wrote: There's no Stop on Touch or Squeezeplay toby10 wrote: Touch: Press hold PAUSE, this becomes a Stop. No idea on SqueezePlay Yes stop is holding pause , and the ir remote for Touch also has stop . Whern holding pause long enough you see a stop symbol instead of a pause symbol . On local files the difference is that a stopped track starts from the begining and pause is pause . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ipeng playback- Flac streaming to Apple Tv 3 with airplay-quality?
I've answer in the iPeng service thread. The general answer is: it's all lossless up to the AppleTV where the re-sampling happens. Actually as of my experience I don't think the re sampling algorithm in the AppleTV is bad. I haven't tested it in detail but it's running iOS and I know under iOS nobody ever complained in the past (until last summer) when iPeng still made iOS downsample all streams to 44.1/16 and then would make it upsample back to 48/24, not even our audiophile friends here noticed it back then :) Today, of course, iPeng no longer does that but handled everything bit-perfectly. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
Mnyb wrote: Yes stop is holding pause , and the ir remote for Touch also has stop . Whern holding pause long enough you see a stop symbol instead of a pause symbol . On local files the difference is that a stopped track starts from the begining and pause is pause . No Stop on my Touch remote only Pause button castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
castalla wrote: No Stop on my Touch remote only Pause button Hold pause button , sorry forgot that no squeeze remote has stop button :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ipeng playback- Flac streaming to Apple Tv 3 with airplay-quality?
So there should be no audible degrading of the files then. Very good and impressive!! Thank you very much for the detailed answers both here and in the Ipeng service thread! And thanks very much for a truly amazing program with remarkable quality and possibilities! nordvest's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
Thanks for the info ... long pause = stop. Got it! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services I voted. I subscribe to both MOG and Rhapsody, using their basic US$5/month plans. Why do I have both? It started as a comparison between the two (I also tried Spotify, and dropped it because I didn't like the interface as well, even with triode's plugin). Now it's laziness about dropping one, because it's rare that I find an album that's on one service but not the other. I've been meaning to drop Rhapsody because it won't play on my iPad or iPod via the iPeng SB player app. But now that Beats has acquired MOG I may wait a bit longer and see what they do with it. I also have a free Pandora account, but I don't use it much. On the other hand, internet radio probably gets more air time than anything else in our house. Mostly its the local NPR station (WAMU) and Radio Paradise. Without those (especially NPR) I'd have to rethink at least part of our current SB deployment, especially the SB2 in the kitchen and SB Radio in the bedroom. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Netgear extender streaming Squeezecentre
cparker wrote: Its not completely clear how the DLNA works on the Extender, but have you tried the UPnP/DLNA plugin on Squeezecentre? Though you will loose so much functionality you would be better off with a small laptop running SqueezePlay with a copy of your music library on it, or maybe some iPeng solution. Cheers cparker :) Yeah, I've tried the UPnP plugin, no joy. Is there more functionality to it than the Enable option under advanced settings? heffa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9939 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services To those selecting Other - please can you respond with the service you use? Thanks. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services simbo wrote: To those selecting Other - please can you respond with the service you use? Thanks. Hey Simbo, Sirius/XM I think is one you missed. dustinsterk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19649 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services Quobuz Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services I voted Internet Radio / TuneIn but the service of BBC iPlayer is also greatly appreciated. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services epoch1970 wrote: I voted Internet Radio / TuneIn but the service of BBC iPlayer is also greatly appreciated. Add me for BBC as well. Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services When interpreting the result, just remember that: - Internet Radio is going to get a lot lower result in this vote than the reality, the reason being that there are a lot of users out there who only use their Squeezebox for internet radio but never reads this forum. - None is going to get a lot higher result in this vote than the reality, the reason being that while there are a lot of users in this community using their Squeezebox only for local music this is not as common among users who never reads this forum who often use their Squeezebox mainly for internet radio or online services. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services erland wrote: When interpreting the result, just remember that: - Internet Radio is going to get a lot lower result in this vote than the reality, the reason being that there are a lot of users out there who only use their Squeezebox for internet radio but never reads this forum. - None is going to get a lot higher result in this vote than the reality, the reason being that while there are a lot of users in this community using their Squeezebox only for local music this is not as common among users who never reads this forum who often use their Squeezebox mainly for internet radio or online services. Both good points, although I'm interested to see if the local yokels (my newly-made-up slightly-offensive term for local-only users) are are numerous as they are vocal* ;-) * yes, they are vocal local yokels. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Alvin Lee - RIP
Still think their 3rd album Stonedhenge from '69 is one of their best. Much jazzier, before they got sucked into hard rock through audience pressure post-Woodstock. Spent an hour or so right in front of Lee's lead guitar speaker when they played at Manchester university in my ill-spent youth. Don't think my hearing ever recovered! RIP old son, and thanks. GRC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
NeilF wrote: OK. Having a couple of problems with the app :( I'm using this on a 10 android tablet. _*1._Navigating_lists*_ When confronted with a list of thousands of artists, albums or tracks, you obviously want to be able to scroll quicky. I find the tiny scroll widget on the right unfriendly and unreliable. So you have to scroll the list for the widget to appear, and then you have about 1-2 second to put a finger on it to use it. Miss that and you're probably just going to click a track by accident. This alphabetic scroll bar is brilliant, and one of the main attractions of the app. I really have no problem with it at all, but there you go - we are all different! Logitech's own app has a permanent scroll bar, try that. _*2._Playing_or_adding_to_play_list*_ So you've got a load of tracks on the screen, and you want to add them to the playlist. You have to go into each one individually, and then selected + Add to Playlist. Why not have two buttons next to each entry? A + to add to playlist, and a to play now? I can see your point, but the current arrangement means less clutter on the screen and less chance of accidentally pressing the wrong option. _*4._Reorganising_Playlist*_ To drag a track into a different position/order, you have to hold the album art. This is tricky if you're right handed as you obscure your entire view. This is a great function I have not seen on the other SB apps, and I don't find it tricky at all (I am right handed). Sure, part of the item is obscured as you drag it but you can see the whole line move, so no biggie. Perhaps you have big fingers or poor fine motor skills? _*5._Add_options_to_Playlist*_ Similar to 2, why not have a cross to remove an item from a play list displayed towards the end of each line, so you can remove an item with a single click? Really, what is this one about? At the moment it is a two click job and you want to make it a one click job? Is that really so frustrating? I use this on the tiniest Android touch screen phone and those extra options would definitely create an issue with accidentally touching the wrong option. For small phone use this app is laid out very well. The developer could create a different app for tablets. Maybe you should ask nicely! TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Alvin Lee - RIP
GRC wrote: Still think their 3rd album Stonedhenge from '69 is one of their best. Much jazzier, before they got sucked into hard rock through audience pressure post-Woodstock. Spent an hour or so right in front of Lee's lead guitar speaker when they played at Manchester university in my ill-spent youth. Don't think my hearing ever recovered! RIP old son, and thanks. Great album. Some songs almost psychedelic. Organ/keyboard work much more up front and in some cases Alvin's vocals are more like a Mose Allison. This album would be quite a shock for someone buying after only hearing Woodstock's I'm Going Home garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
The only one of the points I agree with is adding to the play list. I really like the way squeeze Commander does this. There's a button at the top which changes what clicking on a track does. So you can set it to play, add to end or play next. Makes adding tracks to play list very easy. I hate it when I accidentally click instead of holding and start a track playing and loose all the tracks I've already added to a play list. Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2 jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services BBC and Qobuz, the last one representing maybe 90% of my online service activity. matka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services Internet Radio, BBC iPlayer and Qobuz mintaudio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59106 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
All of which again just proves the point that a good phone UI and a good tablet UI have to look fundamentally different. You simply have very different requirements. On the phone you really have to max out on saving screen estate while its relatively easy to use simple single-touch gestures On a tablet you want to provide more controls and while single-touch gestures are less precise you can also use multi-touch gestures or more complex ones. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
TheLastMan wrote: This alphabetic scroll bar is brilliant, and one of the main attractions of the app. I really have no problem with it at all, but there you go - we are all different!It is nice, but the the fact without use/motion it can accidentally scroll off the screen, means if you do accidentally lose 'grip' of it as you move up/down/stop, you are left with a finger on a track and not scrolling any more. This is an unnecessary frustration. I'd suggest an option to have the the scroll bar perminantly available down the right part of the screen. So rather than having to scroll to grab it, you can just place your finger where ever you like on it over the vertical range (or slide it) to get to your desired position. Want to get to the end of the list? At the moment you have to scroll, grab the scroll widget that's now appeared, and then drag it to the bottom. With my sugestion you'd just place your finger at the bottom of the scroll widget. Done! If you want to instead scroll through your music, just slide your finger up and down the scroll bar... Simple, quicker, easier. Surely that's what we want? By all means have an option to behave this alternative (simpler) way only if you want to dedicate a tiny part of the screen to constantly displayed scroll widgets. TheLastMan wrote: Logitech's own app has a permanent scroll bar, try that.It does in deed, and is simple and fool proof for it. It works 100% predictably for me. TheLastMan wrote: I can see your point, but the current arrangement means less clutter on the screen and less chance of accidentally pressing the wrong option.Agreed, but with a large screen there's no reason not to offer option to immediately play, add to play list etc on each song. Again, an option to do this would be great and improve the speed of the app IMHO. This is a great function I have not seen on the other SB apps, and I don't find it tricky at all (I am right handed). Sure, part of the item is obscured as you drag it but you can see the whole line move, so no biggie. Perhaps you have big fingers or poor fine motor skills?Yes, it's one of my main prerequisites for buying this SB controller! It's great you can pick up a song in your playlist and re-order it, but its not intuitive that you have to grab it by the far left of the line. I suspect the only reason this magic area exists is because holding a line (which you'd do for a drag'n'drop) opens up the sub options. I'd argue this isn't necessary, as you can get to the sub options (quicker) by clicking the arrow at the far right of the line. Personally I'd think the whole/majority of the line should work the same. ie: You should be able to drag an drop a song by grabbing hold of the line, and not just a magical area to the far left. My instinct is to grab the middle/end of the title... Which does not work of course. This is a minor thing though! Really, what is this one about? At the moment it is a two click job and you want to make it a one click job? Is that really so frustrating?Agreed, it's minor, but I guess it's more of a general example. Given a bigger screen, there's more space available, so some of the main option currently tucked away in sub menus could be offered on each line. The most likely thing you want to do with a track in your playlist is:- a) Drag and drop it. (Which you can do) b) Play it now. (Single click) c) Remove it. To do (c) you have to hold the line, or click at the end of the line, and then you're presented with a screenful of options/information... In the middle of which is X Remove from playlist. Simply pressed a dedicated X towards the end of the line would be nice. eg: I could remove 5 tracks in less than a second that way. I use this on the tiniest Android touch screen phone and those extra options would definitely create an issue with accidentally touching the wrong option. For small phone use this app is laid out very well.Absoluetly agreed, and that's why I mentioned at the start we're talking about a full size tablet. As I said previously, most of these are just (personal) annoyances/preferences, but (1) with the scroller widget really is painful for me. Just this evening, I was scrolling through a list of tracks, paused to see the list, and voila the widget was 'ungrasped', disappeared, an then as my finger is over a song I get the options appear for this track, which of course I don't want. Not only am I now in sub options I don't want to be in, but I've even lost widget that's now off the screen. Just have an option to leave a dedicated scroller on the right pllleesse! NeilF's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13059 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
pippin wrote: All of which again just proves the point that a good phone UI and a good tablet UI have to look fundamentally different. You simply have very different requirements. On the phone you really have to max out on saving screen estate while its relatively easy to use simple single-touch gestures On a tablet you want to provide more controls and while single-touch gestures are less precise you can also use multi-touch gestures or more complex ones. Not at all. Most of my suggestions are minor annoyance. The scroller widget is a pain thought to be frank... If there was option to display a perminent scroller widget down the right - when necessary - it would allow quicker and more reliable navigation for a tiny tiny fraction of the screen space. NeilF's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13059 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services Internet radio and wimp. Voted other. sbp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
Another suggestion? - When you return to your playlist, return to the view you were last in. So I'm building up a playlist, and can see the 5 tracks in it... I return to my search, add another few tracks and go back to my playlist (by clicking at the bottom of the screen). But by default it returns me to the now playing screen, instead of the playlist screen I was last on. So I find every time I return to my playlist (by clicking at the bottom of the screen), the first I then have to do is click the top of the screen to go to my playlist. Or is there a way to go directly to the playlist without going unnecessarily through the Now Playing screen. NeilF's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13059 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
Drag amp; Drop reordering is not unseen. All iOS Apps (except Logitech's) as well as SqueezeCommander have offered dragamp;drop reordering of tracks in the current playlist for years. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Netgear extender streaming Squeezecentre
heffa wrote: Cheers cparker :) Yeah, I've tried the UPnP plugin, no joy. Is there more functionality to it than the Enable option under advanced settings? It probably works but not as you imagined you will not be able to control it from the LMS web interface or connected apps and controllers , if you have some other controll app LMS may be able to serve as a source via upnp . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
@Ralphy I've been tinkering a bit with squeezeslave on the raspberry Pi, and found it useful to extend the squeezeslave command line options to allow the lcdd hostname to be passed in on the command line. Currently, the lcdproc daemon is hard-wired to be found on localhost. I have added it as -E command line switch. This allows you to run an LCD with lcdproc on a different host than where squeezeslave is actually running. Since the raspberry pi makes a dandy remote lcdproc server, I thought it would be fun to put one on the coffee table, and run squeezeslave on another host nearer to the stereo equipment. It works really well! I'm a bit of a hack in C land, but I believe it might be worthy to be committed to the main line with review. I've posted a patch file on dropbox but will have to post again due to this forum's link posting rules. It's based on the currently available revision 394 Comments/ Questions? bitbanger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59250 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services Mog , pandora and pono , Neil Young's Service jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services Sky.FM here. dyohn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5211 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services MOG, Pandora, Spotify. I prefer MOG over Spotify mainly because I can control it completely through CLI while when using Triode's Spotify plugin I can only get so far before it no longer provides the necassary returns. I'm also using a VortexBox so my choices are less than a Touch. vining's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37132 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Why I Take My Leave
After spending much time finding and testing the URLs to Absolute Radio UK's FLAC radio streams, only to (spend even more time and) post them for the incompetent moderator to lose, I'll take my knowledge elsewhere. Anyone with the gumption to do so can search and find the fruits of my work, but not here. Memford's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59245 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98259 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why I Take My Leave
Memford wrote: After spending much time finding and testing the URLs to Absolute Radio UK's FLAC radio streams, only to (spend even more time and) post them for the incompetent moderator to lose, I'll take my knowledge elsewhere. Anyone with the gumption to do so can search and find the fruits of my work, but not here. Dont be grumpy this is your second post and there is no moderator involved . You are simply not allowed the post url in you first post ! thats an automatic response to remove spambots by the forum software . Now you can probably post all the urls you want . Hoppefully you did not spend hours searching and pasting urls to post but had them in a text doc on the side ;) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98259 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which online services do you use (if any)?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 Question: Which online services do you use? - Deezer - Internet Radio / TuneIn - Last.fm - MOG - Pandora - Rhapsody/Napster - Slacker - Spotify - Other (i.e. one I've forgotten) - NONE - I don't use any online services I voted - but need the BBC iPlayer included! JonWill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20259 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98255 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why I Take My Leave
Absolute http://icecast.timlradio.co.uk/absoluteradio.co.uk/arflac.ogg 80s http://icecast.timlradio.co.uk/absoluteradio.co.uk/a8flac.ogg 60s http://icecast.timlradio.co.uk/absoluteradio.co.uk/a6flac.ogg 70s http://icecast.timlradio.co.uk/absoluteradio.co.uk/a7flac.ogg 90s http://icecast.timlradio.co.uk/absoluteradio.co.uk/a9flac.ogg 00s http://icecast.timlradio.co.uk/absoluteradio.co.uk/a0flac.og Classic http://icecast.timlradio.co.uk/absoluteradio.co.uk/acflac.og It's only a trial, but would be nice to see other stations do this. Lem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98259 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
