Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
bpa wrote: > Debian wheezy comes on hard and soft float depending on when you > installed it and where you got the distro. > > I think you may have softfloat either in Debian and/or LMS as I feel > that Pi could transcode one stream if using hard float but it would need > confirmation to prove it ( a few years ago I had a 250Mhz MIPS based NAS > which could decode a AAC and encode Flac stream so I think a 700Mhz ARM > should be able) . I would agree, if you are going to use Debian on Raspberry Pi use Raspbian. It's their recommended OS should get you the best performance from the box. I'm sure we've had some successful Raspberry Pi users on here. Links: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ http://raspbian.org/ smiggs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can SB Handle HTTPS Streams?
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Re: [slim] Can SB Handle HTTPS Streams?
rbz5416 wrote:
> Having problems accessing podcasts from a provider that has just
> switched to HTTPS.
>
It's not supported at the moment as far as I know.
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Having problems accessing podcasts from a provider that has just switched to HTTPS. rbz5416's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12089 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=10 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
pkfox wrote: > the OS on the Pi is Debian Wheezy with all updates applied ( LMS is 7.8 > ) - whether it's using soft or hard float I don't know - Debian wheezy comes on hard and soft float depending on when you installed it and where you got the distro. I think you may have softfloat either in Debian and/or LMS as I feel that Pi could transcode one stream if using hard float but it would need confirmation to prove it ( a few years ago I had a 250Mhz MIPS based NAS which could decode a AAC and encode Flac stream so I think a 700Mhz ARM should be able) . bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
wortgefecht wrote: > How can a MP3 stream be "audiophile"? It could be an mp3 with Diana Krall... :) "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
toby10 wrote: > Player > Internet Radio > Search > Audiophile Classical (this is a 320k > MP3 stream) > If that plays without buffering (which I bet it will) then your ISP, > internet, network are fine. How can a MP3 stream be "audiophile"? Sorry, scnr ;) Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk - *ASRock Ion 330* (home office) running Xubuntu 14.04.1 LTS + LMS 7.9, all music streamed as FLAC > Local Player > Behringer MS 40 active nearfield monitors via toslink - *Boom* (master bedroom), *Radio* (master bathroom), *Archos 35 Home Connect* + SqueezePlayer (guest bathroom) - *Reson PR 80s* as UPnP client (living room) > Parasound DAC 1500 > vintage Wega Modul 42V amp (with 42E equalizer, 42T tape deck, and Thorens TD 160 Mk II turntable) > Quadral Vulkan Mk II speakers - *Duet* + *Radio* in storage wortgefecht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
Likely the PI is just lacking the processing power to transcode. Unlikely to be your ISP or an internet issue. Simple test to find out. Player > Internet Radio > Search > Audiophile Classical (this is a 320k MP3 stream) If that plays without buffering (which I bet it will) then your ISP, internet, network are fine. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
castalla wrote: > Is the buffering evident on other station streams? Maybe it's just > radioio ? Hi there, I think it is Radioio as I've tried some others which stream in Mp3 @128 and it seems ok, but Radioio through my ReadyNas ( which is not very powerful ) plays without any rebuffering ( apart from the initial connection which they all do ) so it's got to be the pi. Is the buffering related to the server not the player ? When the going gets weird - the weird turn pro. Hunter S Thompson CD's -> EAC/Grip -> ReadyNas NV -> CAT5 -> Sonicwall -> TP -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me :-) pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
Is the buffering evident on other station streams? Maybe it's just radioio ? Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox speaker (mothballed) Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox speaker - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
FLACs don't need to be transcoded for playing, just streamed. A completely different animal. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
Update - taking a break from the Internet radio test and trying it playing flacs from my library and so far it's played for fifteen minutes without a glitch so it's looking like an Internet issue but I have a very good high speed broadband so I'm at a bit of a loss as to what it is causing the rebuffering. When the going gets weird - the weird turn pro. Hunter S Thompson CD's -> EAC/Grip -> ReadyNas NV -> CAT5 -> Sonicwall -> TP -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me :-) pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
Hi, the settings were: AAC = native, FLAC = faad/flac, MP3 = disabled, PCM = faad , which doesn't mean anything to me. When the going gets weird - the weird turn pro. Hunter S Thompson CD's -> EAC/Grip -> ReadyNas NV -> CAT5 -> Sonicwall -> TP -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me :-) pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
bpa wrote: > Transcoding involves AAC to PCM and then PCM to Flac and then sending > Flac to player. > > AAC to PCM does not require much processing and IIRC LMS faad (transcode > app) build for ARm doesn't use Floating point. > > PCM to Flac require more processing and this might be the problem - try > disabling AAC toi Flac in LMS Settings/Advanced/Filetypes - send PCM > will load your network even more so you need a good network. > > Another possible problem could be your network if it is not capable of > delivering Flac stream to Player. - what is signal quality on SB3 ? > Is Pi also wireless to router ? > > What OS is on your Pi - are you using the hard float or soft float ? Hi there, my network is well capable of delivering anything - there's no wi-fi involved anywhere it's all gigabit cabled - would LMS need to convert to flac when playing a radio stream ? - the OS on the Pi is Debian Wheezy with all updates applied ( LMS is 7.8 ) - whether it's using soft or hard float I don't know - I have three servers setup on my network and they all work perfectly except the Pi which plays ok for a few minutes ( Flac files or internet radio ) then cuts out (I'm assuming it's buffering ) it's the 512mb of RAM model which I hoped would be up to the job - but it's looking like it's not - I'll try what you suggested and report back - than you very much for your input When the going gets weird - the weird turn pro. Hunter S Thompson CD's -> EAC/Grip -> ReadyNas NV -> CAT5 -> Sonicwall -> TP -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me :-) pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
pkfox wrote: > Hi all, I checked and it's AAC - so that means the server is involved in > transcoding which means the Pi isn't up to it - ah well thanks for your > help. Anyone know of a similar device to the Pi that's capable of doing > what I'm attempting - the bottom line is I want a totally silent box - I > have a ReadyNas nv but it's a noisy bugger and also uses a lot of power > compared to the Pi which is 5 volts ( bless it ) Transcoding involves AAC to PCM and then PCM to Flac and then sending Flac to player. AAC to PCM does not require much processing and IIRC LMS build for ARm doesn't use Floating point. PCM to Flac require more processing and this might be the problem - try disabling AAC toi Flac in LMS Settings/Advanced/Filetypes - send PCM will load your network even more so you need a good network. Another possible problem could be your network if it is capable of delivering Flac stream to Player. - what is signal quality on SB3 ? Is Pi also wireless to router ? What OS is on your Pi - are you using the hard float or soft float ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet radio - is logitechmedia server involved
Hi all, I checked and it's AAC - so that means the server is involved in transcoding which means the Pi isn't up to it - ah well thanks for your help. Anyone know of a similar device to the Pi that's capable of doing what I'm attempting - the bottom line is I want a totally silent box - I have a ReadyNas nv but it's a noisy bugger and also uses a lot of power compared to the Pi which is 5 volts ( bless it ) When the going gets weird - the weird turn pro. Hunter S Thompson CD's -> EAC/Grip -> ReadyNas NV -> CAT5 -> Sonicwall -> TP -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me :-) pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Stream google play music
mps wrote: > The final missing piece was to upgrade from 7.8 to the latest 7.9 > nightly, and now it's working :) I understand this was only fixed in the > last few days, so using the latest nightly is important. Thanks very > much for creating this! Could you please give a full report or how to about installing it on the ready nas. Hechtus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62533 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99482 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 8 Design Poll
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102134 Question: Do you want to see the status bar on iPhone 5, 5s and iTouch 5G - Yes, show me the status bar! - No, I prefer to have the clean screen. - I don't care Brilliant. I'll keep my eyes peeled. Simon_rb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56871 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102134 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Yet another thread on replacing squeezebox devices
I've done some progress and moved to http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102203-uPNP-control-point. It will take me probably a lot of time to have a first decent version and then continue and polishing. I'd like to have opinions here. I can focus on a few things, not in order 1- Synchronisation (very challenging) or at least simultaneous playback start 2- Perfect gateway: most of the command on SB are on SO, including when volume is changed on SO, it is forwarded to SB/LMS. That would also include metadata exchanges 3- Audio quality : more transcoders on the fly (I don't like that), or use or replaygain and cross fade 4- configurability : how to setup the system and decide which uPNP machine can have a SB "buddy" and possibility to have parameters different for each pair 5- Stability A PoC version is available - cross finger it will not do bad on your PC :-) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
