Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hi there Unfortunately microsoft offers no c++ programming interface for mobile 7 phones. I would have to port everything to managed C# or Silverlight. I'll be exploring those options a little more and let you know if there are any news. BTW - there is a new release on my homepage inluding - support for spotify artwork (thanks a lot to Stoker!) - improved cover download from Amazon. Good night Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Locuth;584922 Wrote: Thanks for the praise :-) To be honest - I don't know yet. Porting SlimCtrl to win phone 7 requires a considerable investment. (new programming environment and time) And the download rate does not quite motivate this step. On the other hand I love the feedback from - and the dialogue with you guys. I will check out what it takes to port to win phone 7 and make a decision towards the end of the year. *post encouragements here* Sebastian Hi Sebastian, I'm loving my new HTC HD7 and would definitely find a SlimControl Windows Phone 7 app very useful and I'd be more than happy to donate or pay for it.Great work with the app by the way - I might try get an old WinMobile phone and see if I can get this working without a SIM card installed - might help me enter names for Spotify searches in the interim. -- OhPinchy OhPinchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15882 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Thanks for the praise :-) To be honest - I don't know yet. Porting SlimCtrl to win phone 7 requires a considerable investment. (new programming environment and time) And the download rate does not quite motivate this step. On the other hand I love the feedback from - and the dialogue with you guys. I will check out what it takes to port to win phone 7 and make a decision towards the end of the year. *post encouragements here* Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hi Sebastian, thank you for a fantastic application which just seems to get better and better. I am currently running version 1.5 on a HTC Touch HD and everything just works. I am considering upgrading to the new Windows Phone 7 platform and was wondering if you have any plans to release SlimCtrl as an app to run on this platform? Once again thanks for a genuinely great addition to the squeezebox family Tony. -- Grizzly Grizzly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hi Sebastian No problem! I don't get notifications anymore either! Yes I am still interested in this. SlimControl seems to work correctly with Triode's Spotify plug-in, everything just works except that the cover art for the track playing doesn't show up (actually I see a distorted SlimControl logo where the cover art should be). I don't know if this is an issue with SlimControl or with the Spotify plug-in. It's not a major issue for me but just thought I'd mention it. I've tried the suggestions made buy others in this thread but nothing helped. If you want to look into it I'd be happy to help in any way that I can. Cheers -- Stoker --ian Stoker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8264 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
The pixelized, maybe distorted SlimCtrl logo indicates that SC was unable to download the actual image. I am based in germany and can not join spotify. I would like to debug this issue though. The only way I can think of is to connect to your SB server via internet. That involves opening ports 9000 and 9001 on your router and sending me you current IP-adress. If you are interested send me a note: sb -at- sciatec.de Take care Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
The spotify plugin serves images from a separate service that usually runs on port 9001. Maybe that's the issue here. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Good hint - thanks. And I thought spotify runs as SBS music service - not as plugin. @stoker - I had a typo: For me to log into your SqueezeBox server you would need to open ports 9000 and 9090 on your router. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hi there Sorry - some devices do not allow you to install unsigned software. Most devices have the user confirm the installation of unsigned software. But some simply disallow it. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Stoker;576756 Wrote: Hi Locuth I've been using SlimControl (v1.48) with Triode's Spotify plug-in and all seems to work well except that I noticed that the cover art doesn't show up in SlimControl (it is visible in the web interface so I know Spotify provides it) I was wondering if there's an option somewhere to turn the cover art on, I've got both Coverflow : 'Activate' and '..on radio' checked). Cover art for albums in my own library shows up correctly. Any help greatly appreciated. --Ian Hey Stoker Sorry it took me so long to reply here in the forum. Somehow I'm not getting any notifications anymore. I have not spotify account yet - but I might get one if it's not to laborious. If you are still interested in the matter - get back to me in this thread. Take care Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
I keep getting Program cannot start because it is not digitally signed with a trusted certificate error when trying to install SlimControl 1.48 on my Samsung jack (Windows Mobile 6.0). I tried using PHM Registry Editor to bypass the certificate checking during install, but for some reason it is not allowing me to modify this registry value. Any suggestions? -- Pete7874 Pete7874's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13825 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Album art isn't working properly for me either when using the Spotify plugin. -- mvn2009 mvn2009's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33172 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Perhaps it's Spotify, the way it handles Artwork compared to everything else anyway, maybe. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=577014postcount=111 from: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62581page=12 Or.. it could be completely unrelated. -mm -- MusicManiac MusicManiac's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Thanks for the repies, I'll try deleting the cache and unchecking coverflow and report back. mm: does the art work show up properly using the Spotify plug-in? Cheers -- Stoker --ian Stoker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8264 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Sorry Stoker, I don't have a Spotify account so I can't test that. Rereading my response, I should have been more clearer on what was working for me. Basically, artwork is working in all the places I'm aware of there being artwork. Last time I checked it, I know artwork was working on the main window, coverflow option included, plus radio stations with coverflow showing related music from the library when applicable. The thumbs load in the playlists fine. Same goes for the library views. The online app icons show up as well as the radio station icons... fwiw, I have started testing the 7.6 releases now, and as far as I can tell, its working just as well(for me) as it was with the latest 7.5 release. -mm -- MusicManiac MusicManiac's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hi Locuth I've been using SlimControl (v1.48) with Triode's Spotify plug-in and all seems to work well except that I noticed that the cover art doesn't show up in SlimControl (it is visible in the web interface so I know Spotify provides it) I was wondering if there's an option somewhere to turn the cover art on, I've got both Coverflow : 'Activate' and '..on radio' checked). Cover art for albums in my own library shows up correctly. Any help greatly appreciated. --Ian -- Stoker --ian Stoker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8264 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Stoker;576756 Wrote: Hi Locuth I've been using SlimControl (v1.48) with Triode's Spotify plug-in and all seems to work well except that I noticed that the cover art doesn't show up in SlimControl (it is visible in the web interface so I know Spotify provides it) I was wondering if there's an option somewhere to turn the cover art on, I've got both Coverflow : 'Activate' and '..on radio' checked). Cover art for albums in my own library shows up correctly. Any help greatly appreciated. --Ian I have not heard some time something from Sebastian. But as far as you see i did posted this bug in my last posting. The versions before all was ok. Maybee we discuss a little bit more here to reactivate Sebastian :-) -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
All the artwork shows up fine here, v 1.48 Did you guys try deleting the cache folder? -mm -- MusicManiac MusicManiac's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Locuth;552251 Wrote: SlimControl 1.44 is ready for download! SC supports album covers for SqueezeBox server 7.6 SC automatically detects available servers. More here: http://sc.sciatec.de/changes_13x.shtml Sebastian its now 2 months aga you did announce SC. nomore answers from users until than? i did install V1.48 and found a cover bug. Just mark cover flow and no chance to load covers. Also mini Covers in playlist do not appear. If you unmark Cover Flow than all is correct. -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
SlimControl 1.44 is ready for download! SC supports album covers for SqueezeBox server 7.6 SC automatically detects available servers. More here: http://sc.sciatec.de/changes_13x.shtml -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hey there For those of you who were unable to run SlimCtrl because of missing components. I might have a fix for you. If you've seen an error msg like: Cannot find SlimCtrl or one of it's components Please get in touch if you care to test the fix. Cheers Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Locuth;522382 Wrote: Great it works now. But please tell me. You unchecked the Logon checkbox and now it works ? So you are not using user/password in SqueezeCenter ? EDIT: And what port are you using now? - 9090? Hi, No, what I did was to first go in and delete cache even though nothing was shown in there. Then I unticked the log on box, Deleted the username password and re-entered the details then it connected ok -- tims31 tims31's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
tims31;522495 Wrote: Hi, No, what I did was to first go in and delete cache even though nothing was shown in there. Then I unticked the log on box, Deleted the username password and re-entered the details then it connected ok I am using port 9090, but I had tried both 9000 and 9090 and re-entered the username and password several times. It seems that deleting the cache even though it appeared empty did the trick??? Still happy now...will be registering tomorrow when I get home. Thanks again OK, thanks. Maybe it was just a blank in username or password. Or a bug in SC. Take care Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
This is to you Muele: I uploaded an update which fixes these issues: http://sc.sciatec.de/sc_Work.shtml Here's the test release http://sc.sciatec.de/SlimControl/SlimCtrl_133.exe Take care Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hi Locuth This app looks great and just what I have been after but aftre installing on my Touch HD when I try to log in I get the following error. See attached Image Basically the error shows as '405 Method not allowed'. Do you have any idea what this means? Would love to try this app out but cant even login at the moment...What have I done wrong LOL +---+ |Filename: error text.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9409| +---+ -- tims31 tims31's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
SlimControl is trying to talk CLI to your SqueezeCenter on port 9000. But SqueezeCenter's CLI port is probably 9090. You usually do not need to change the CLI-port setting in the settings. What you are seeing in the error log is the HTTP-Server repsonse. It says something like what the hell are you talking about? Or in other words This command is not allowed: goodby! If run SqCntr on a PC its most definitly port 9090 for CLI. Else check in server settings - information Does that help? -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hi Locuth, I Had tried both 9090 and 9000 in the CLI settings but neither seem to work. If i set to 9090 then I just get 'Logon failed'. I am using the same login details as squeezebox on my PC and in my radio but still no luck. Any other ideas please? If I uninstall and reinstall it remembers my details. Where is the settings file kept so I can delete that and try a clean install. (installed on storage card). Thanks -- tims31 tims31's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Great it works now. But please tell me. You unchecked the Logon checkbox and now it works ? So you are not using user/password in SqueezeCenter ? -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
I finally gave the SlimControl manual a workover. For those of you interested: http://sc.sciatec.de/SlimControl/quickstart_e.pdf One thing missing is the artwork 'flip-side'. But the rest looks pretty nice. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
OK Tom - thanks If you have a chance to send me any of the protected files I'll have SC handle them properly. Cheers Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hi Apologies for the delay in responding. I tried version 1.30 and can confirm that the same problem occurs for every track that is protected (i.e. where a licence is needed). When slimcontrol starts caching my library, it stops reading the folder contents as soon as it comes across a protected track. However if the track is in a subfolder, the program continues to read to the end of all folders w/o problem. I spent a few hours yesterday to get a licence for all my copy protected tracks, and/or remove the protection. I haven't yet had a chance to delete and recreate the cache, but I guess this time it'll work fine. It would be great however if slimcontrol could add protected music to the library when reading folder content, even if it can't play it. Cheers and thanks again for this brilliant software ! Tom -- sbirsen sbirsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30689 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hello I have been using slimcontrol 1.00 for over a week now on a HD2, and I think it is truely brilliant. My previous HD was a bit slow (maybe the cache was on the SD card, I can't remember), but now the fact that I can browse my music library makes it a brilliant tool. I just have one question which I couldnt find anywhere in the manual and on forums - apologies if this was brought up and discussed before. When browsing with my HD2, for some folders the tracks subfolders are only displayed partially, for example only until the letter E. The rest is not visible. Is there a track limit per folder that slimcontrol can handle ? I tried deleting the slimcontrol cache and restarting the software. I also deleted the music library on the squeezebox server and let it rescan the whole library without success, to ensure that the contents of the affected folders are visible via squeezebox server. Cheers -- sbirsen sbirsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30689 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hi there There is no upper limit on the number of folders/tracks. Deleting the cache would have been my first guess too. If the folder list is (reproduciably) truncated at the same folder or track I'd say it's caused by some error at that track/folder. How large is the truncated folder actually? Is the root directory truncated or some sub directory? If it's the root, you could send me your cache-file (or inspect it yourself) It's in the cache directory /SlimCtrl/GUUID/SC_fld#.dat. Alternatively I could check what's going on by connecting to your server from my place. That's the fastest way to find and debug the error. Cheers Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hallo Locuth What you said made me think, so I moved the last folders that slimcontrol could read out of the directory. After some back and forth, it turns out the reason slimcontrol was stopping to read was because of this track name (don't judge me, I like the song :) : GaryBarlow_-_OpenRoad_-_8_-_OpenRoad.wma When I move this track out of the folder the whole folder is read to the end as normal. Now I don't know slimcontrol had problems because the track is wma, or because of the underscores in the filename, or because it was a protected file. When I changed the track name to GaryBarlow - OpenRoad.wma it failed again. I still have the original file, please let me know if you need any info further than what I have posted below : Codec: Windows Media Audio 9 Duration: 4:21.999 Bitrate: 128.016 kbps File Size: 4,522,597 WM Version: 9.00.00.3250 Seekable: Yes Stridable: No Broadcast: No Protected: Yes Trusted: Yes Contains: Audio Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction ! -- sbirsen sbirsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30689 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Hi again I have an idea... Please send me the original wma-file. Plus, I'd like to have the full path to that track (on your server) That is - from the server's point of view. For example: if the track is C:/Stuff/MyMusic/AlbumA/Track.wma And you have set the SQCenter music directory to C:/Stuff/MyMusic The full path from the server's point of view would be: /AlbumA/Track.wma Edit: my email is sb AT sciatec DOT de -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Rob W;495046 Wrote: Probably a dumb question: How do I minimise SCtrl? Clicking the red gearwheel closes it completely, and I haven't found any other way of navigating away from it other than by answering the phone. Thanks Probably depends on the phone/sw. On my Touch Pro with a custom rom, the hard home key essentially minimizes it and switches you back to the home screen. eric -- EricBergan EricBergan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4746 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
On my Touch Cruise the red phone hang-up button does the same thing usually, but not with Slim Control for some reason. Sebastian, A dialogue box sounds a bit clunky, but would be OK otherwise. What about if you click on the green connect symbol at the top right corner to minimise? That's what I tried initially as it seemed intuitive to me. Also, as I mentioned in reply to Eric, for some reason on my Touch Cruise the normal Home key (the red hang-up key) is locked out when using SC. -- Rob W Rob W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
EricBergan;495193 Wrote: Probably depends on the phone/sw. On my Touch Pro with a custom rom, the hard home key essentially minimizes it and switches you back to the home screen. eric The same on my XDA Diamond. But at the Blue Angel I can not minimize it. -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Rob W;495328 Wrote: On my Touch Cruise the red phone hang-up button does the same thing usually, but not with Slim Control for some reason. [...] Also, as I mentioned in reply to Eric, for some reason on my Touch Cruise the normal Home key (the red hang-up key) is locked out when using SC. The variety of OS' and hardware platforms makes it virtually impossible for me to handle harware buttons apropriately. More so, since I am developing under WM 2003 which barely 'knows' about hardware phone keys. I made an attempt to capture hardware keys according to MSDN but to no avail. If anybody can make the connection between the red phone button and the underlying WM-event. Please let me know. (Hint: I have tried to capure VK_TEND VK_TBACK events) -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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amey01;494744 Wrote: Long absence due to a house move - sorry. The main problem I'm having is with the database/cache. I keep clearing and recreating it, but at some point down the list it all stuffs up and incorrect albums are listed beneath the specific artists. No idea what's going on! Hey Adam - I hope the move went well. It's good you're bringing this up again. Try this in SCtrl: Settings-Cache-Delete All (or select your server - Delete) Leave the settings and restart SCtrl. Now, open any of artists/albums/folders/genres in the browser. You can observe SCtrl downloading from SQcenter (watch the list header) If however these lists are loaded instantly - then, Housten, we have a problem -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Locuth;494811 Wrote: Hey Adam - I hope the move went well. It's good you're bringing this up again. Try this in SCtrl: Settings-Cache-Delete All (or select your server - Delete) Leave the settings and restart SCtrl. Now, open any of artists/albums/folders/genres in the browser. You can observe SCtrl downloading from SQcenter (watch the list header) If however these lists are loaded instantly - then, Housten, we have a problem Yep - all seemed well, and then about an hour into my listening session I noticed at J there were a few albums messed up. Not every one. Just random ones (one in 10 or so) from J onwards. Not sure if this happened from the beginning or some time during my use (ie. it got corrupt with use). I'll try to work that one out for you and get back. -- amey01 amey01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11274 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Probably a dumb question: How do I minimise SCtrl? Clicking the red gearwheel closes it completely, and I haven't found any other way of navigating away from it other than by answering the phone. Thanks -- Rob W Rob W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Rob W;495046 Wrote: Probably a dumb question: How do I minimise SCtrl? Clicking the red gearwheel closes it completely, and I haven't found any other way of navigating away from it other than by answering the phone. Thanks As it is now, you can only close it. How about a message box: Minimize SlimControl ? YES / NO or Terminate SlimControl ? YES / NO -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Long absence due to a house move - sorry. I finally had a chance to run an extended session with 1.0b last night. It's great (there are a few things I've mentioned previously that still hold, but I won't repeat them here). The main problem I'm having is with the database/cache. I keep clearing and recreating it, but at some point down the list it all stuffs up and incorrect albums are listed beneath the specific artists. No idea what's going on! -- amey01 amey01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11274 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks for implementing these improvements. Is the updated version available for download yet? The version on your website appears to be unchanged. Am I looking in the right place? If it's not yet available, that's fine. About your response to my second item 2 relating to filter behaviour: The way you describe the behaviour is how I would like it but is not what is happening for me. When I wipe right to close the album window, the selected artist (e.g. Menuhin) is retained (which is OK) but the underlying filter that I set with the keyboard (e.g. all violinists by entering Vn) is reset so I now get all artists showing (which is not OK). This is on the original version 1.0 beta. I think it is quite reasonable to reset the filter and the selection when you press the Genre or Artist button. It's only the wipe right behaviour that I'm talking about. Thanks, Rob -- Rob W Rob W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hey Rob Oh - that was a misunderstanding. The behaviour you've described is by design. I figured one would want to have the complete list again when going back. Plus, we would need yet another button to clear the filter, if it wasn't cleared automatically. If there's an intuitive way to satisfy your needs without confusing the user about missing list items - let me know. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hello again No it's not up on the server yet. As I am still pondering over a couple of things. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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No probs. I see what you mean about the filter issue. I'll give it some thought. Cheers, Rob -- Rob W Rob W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Rob W;488709 Wrote:
1. As my collection is mainly classical, I often want to select based on
Genre Album, skipping artist. I haven't found a way of selecting all
artists and then moving to the next level in the list (i.e. Albums).
Have I missed something? Could you add it please if it is not there
already? This is really important to those with classical music
collections.
That feature is implemented
2. I use tags enclosed in [brackets]. I know many others do as well.
The keyboard doesn't seem to include either [ or ] as far as I can see.
Is it possible to add them to the 09 key, for example please? If not
possible, I can cope by changing the tag delimiters.
I added a keyboard with 1-9 and several special characters like [](){},
3. When a playlist is displayed and I press the Next/Last track keys or
Pause, it reverts to cover flow. As most of my albums don't have covers
available, I'd prefer it to stay on the track list so I can see what's
happening.
The current playlist will stay open until you press the menu-button.
4. Only one artist is shown for each track. Often I have many artists
for a given track, separated by ; so that Squeezebox parses them into
separate artists. I would like them all to be shown, as Squeezebox
does.
I decided to display only the 1st artist in the now playing screen
(for performance)
When you taphold on the current artwork you'll get the track
information including all artists.
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Rob W;489573 Wrote: Hi Sebastian, I'm really enjoying getting to know Slim Control. Great 1. The scrolling artist + track title under the cover on the main display truncates some of my longer track titles. It would be great if this could accept any length title. Alternatively increasing the field size (doubling it?) would be OK. Some classical track titles are very long. (e.g. Mendelssohn: Symphony No. 2 in B flat Lobgesang - 2.1 All men, all things, all that have life and breath) Currently, SlimControl's scrolling text features allows for text lengths 3 times the screen with. I'll think about increasing it. 2. If I use the keyboard to filter a list of artists, select an artist to review their albums, then return to the artists list the filter has been cleared. It would be more useful to me if the filter stayed set when I return to the artists list. That way I can check the albums for all the artists the filter has selected. If you go back by 'sweeping-right' it won't be cleared Hitting the genres/artists/albums button will always show the complete list with no selection. But I'll consider keeping the most previously selected genre/artist/album. 3. In the playlist screen, track names are truncated if they are too long for the line length. Many classical tracks then appear identical (see above example under 1). In other displays you handle this elegantly by providing a scrolling version of the selected item at the top of the display. Here you show a scrolling version of the currently playing track name, which is great, but doesn't help when I want to select another track. Could you word wrap the track title (and artists too, I guess)and let the selection box expand to suit? Alternatively, a scrolling version of the selected track would allow confirmation that the selected track is correct before moving to it. Text-scrolling within the playlist (or any of the browser lists) is a tough one. I will see what I can do to allow for longer track names in the current playlist. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi there, Your app looks great and I'm trying to install it on my HTC S740 (running Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard. Unfortunately, when I run it from my Windows 7 machine, I get the following error: Installation of Sciatec SlimCtrl 1.0b.CAB was unsuccessful. The installation file is not intended for this device. I've tried this with the earlier versions too with the same message? Any ideas? -- gavinrace gavinrace's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34526 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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gavinrace;489408 Wrote: Hi there, Installation of Sciatec SlimCtrl 1.0b.CAB was unsuccessful. The installation file is not intended for this device. Any ideas? Tha CAB file is intended for installation on the mobile device, not on the PC. I figure, the msi-installer has not automatically installed SlimCtrl on your mobile ? If not: On the PC, go to START-programs-SlimControl-1.0-Install 1.0b [Your device must be connected via the Mobile Device Center.] Does that do the trick? Cheers Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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The installer is running on Windows 7 but is attempting to install on the mobile. The error appears on the mobile device. I have since gone to Start | Programs | SlimControl | 1.0 | Install 1.0b and this produces the same error on the mobile device when using ActiveSync. Should the device HTC s740 (Windows Mobile 6.1) be able to accept this program? -- gavinrace gavinrace's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34526 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Ok, misunderstanding. Yes, it's intended for WM 6.1. Are you running a cooked ROM or anything but the original OS on the mobile? Anyway, 2nd solution: copy the CAB file to your device manually. You'll find the (PC) installation folder via the same START-menรผ item -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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It should be genuine and original. It was bought off the shelf and I've done nothing to change this. I was able to install Google Apps okay on it. What is a cooked OS? Is there a way I can check this? I've also tried copying the CAB file along with the Install and icon_sq2 files straight to the device - again, same error when I try to run it. -- gavinrace gavinrace's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34526 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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A 'cooked' ROM is a ROM update for (older) mobile devices (and usually not officially supported - AFAIK) But I'm no expert at that. All I know is that they cause troubles. How about the CAB-file is corrupt ? I had that once or twice. If you'd download it again maybe... Or your hardware platform really does not accept SC. (First time I heard that from a WM 6+ user) I'd like to know what processor your HTC has. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I've never applied an unofficial ROM update to the phone and I'm the only owner. Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard CE OS 5.2.20279 (Build 20279.1.3.4) Radio Version 12.23.30.06H_0.24.30.24 RIL Version 2.002 Available Storage 58.42MB Total Storage 114.79MB Available Memory 130.73MB Total Memory 187.48MB Processoe: MSM7225-528MHz CE ROM Update versions: Operator: 5.2.20279.20279 Manufacturer: 5.2.20279.20279 Microsoft: 5.2.20279.20279 Language: 5.2.20279.20279 File System: 5.2.20279.20279 I've tried re-downloading and running with different versions. Still no joy. :-( -- gavinrace gavinrace's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34526 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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It's probably the Qualcomm MSM7225 processor... SControl is built for ARM and I don't know much about hardware compatibilites... I am sorry. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Ahh, that's a shame. I was quite excited about getting this working. Thanks for your help. -- gavinrace gavinrace's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34526 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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The HTC S740 is a mobile standard (aka windows classic, aka a smartphone, aka non-touchscreen device). I don't think SlimControl is supported on such a device. -- NikolajC NikolajC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18676 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi Sebastian, I'm really enjoying getting to know Slim Control. I really like the keyboard filter - it provides lots of flexibility. A couple of minor usability issues I've noticed: 1. The scrolling artist + track title under the cover on the main display truncates some of my longer track titles. It would be great if this could accept any length title. Alternatively increasing the field size (doubling it?) would be OK. Some classical track titles are very long. (e.g. Mendelssohn: Symphony No. 2 in B flat Lobgesang - 2.1 All men, all things, all that have life and breath) 2. If I use the keyboard to filter a list of artists, select an artist to review their albums, then return to the artists list the filter has been cleared. It would be more useful to me if the filter stayed set when I return to the artists list. That way I can check the albums for all the artists the filter has selected. 3. In the playlist screen, track names are truncated if they are too long for the line length. Many classical tracks then appear identical (see above example under 1). In other displays you handle this elegantly by providing a scrolling version of the selected item at the top of the display. Here you show a scrolling version of the currently playing track name, which is great, but doesn't help when I want to select another track. Could you word wrap the track title (and artists too, I guess)and let the selection box expand to suit? Alternatively, a scrolling version of the selected track would allow confirmation that the selected track is correct before moving to it. Just some thoughts for your consideration. Cheers, Rob -- Rob W Rob W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely implement 1. Very likely 3. And consider something for 2. Concerning the 4th suggestion. Do you have to set a special option in Squeezecenter or simply separate the artists by ';' -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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About your query and suggestion 4: There is an option I have selected under one of the server settings tabs to split artists in the artists list. (I can get the exact details tonight.) There is also a box to enter the preferred delimiter for artists, I use ;. So a typical artist list that I would enter in the Artist field for a Violin concerto would be: Nigel Kennedy Vn; Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra; Simon Rattle Cond; (The final ; is not required by Squeezebox, but allows me to search in iTunes for all Cond; to find all conductors, for example.) This is a very useful feature in Squeezebox, as I can select from the artist list Simon Rattle Cond and it will find the above Artist entry. I also don't get a whole lot of combinations of different artists listed in the artist list. The Squeezebox Classic display lists all the artists separated by when I have Artist included in the list of fields to be displayed. The SqueezeServer interface shows all the artists for each track or album, but always they are separated by a ,. The list can get quite long for an opera, for example, but your scrolling feature should handle that OK. Basically, I would love to have the same features in SlimControl as I get in Squeezebox as described above. If too hard to do, what you have now is better than showing the complete unparsed artists list in the Artists selection, I think. A couple more thoughts: Suggestion 1 can be generalised to allow slection of all items in a list by touching the top bar that identifies the list's contents. This was what I tried first as it is a natural thing to do. Suggestion 3 can be generalised to leave the current display active whenever the track control keys or slider are pressed. Thanks Rob -- Rob W Rob W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hey Rob Yes - I will leave the playlist displayed until you press the popup menu button again. (the one in the lower right) I was planning to add a special item 'all artists' / 'all albums' / 'all tracks' at the top of the current list. Just like on the Duet controller. (the Duet has that special button at the bottom of the list - I think) As to the keyboard characters [ / ] Adding more character to the '0-9' button would make it a bit awkward to use I think. I will probably have to extend the keyboard to change to a numerical/special characters mode with !ยง$%/()[] What do you think ? Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi Sebastian, That's fine for the All Artists etc. It's the same way the Squeezebox Classic works, so would be good to make it consistent (and with the Duet). Not sure what the best solution for the special characters is. A special character mode would be good, but not sure how you activate it. The key sizes now are about the right size and there isn't really anywhere to put another key. Maybe make the third character of the 09 key put it into special character mode and show all the special characters where the letters are, just for one character entry? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one marking tags like this, so I think it's worth doing, somehow. For the ; delimiter, what I said previously was not quite correct. On the My Music tab of Server Settings, entering a delimiter in the Separator for Multiple Items in Tags box causes Squeeze Server to split ANY tag containing this delimiter into multiple entries. It doesn't just apply to the Artist tag and as far as I can tell, you just enter a delimiter to activate it. Cheers, Rob -- Rob W Rob W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Locuth;487980 Wrote: option 1: Can you confirm or disconfirm that the cache folder 'SlimCtrl' resides in in your root directory, i.e. '/SlimCtrl' Hi Sebastian. I can confirm that the cache directory resides in the root of my phone: '\SlimCtrl' (the root has a total of 80 MB available for storage). The app itself is installed on the internal memory card (4 GB flash that cannot be removed). I think it's still a good idea to have the option of choosing where the app should store the cached images, as I have previously had som issues with other apps taking up too much space on the very limited storage space in the root directory. -- spumanti spumanti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=27080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Locuth;487980 Wrote: Hey guys I have a question and request to all SlimControl users Where do you have set up the cache directory 1. in internal memory 2. on an SD/MMC/... card /QUOTE] Option 2: Both the cache and SlimControl are on the SDHC card. -- fmanders fmanders's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33704 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Fantastic app Sebastian! It installed flawlessly on my HTC Touch Cruise and works well overall. I have a few suggestions. 1. As my collection is mainly classical, I often want to select based on Genre Album, skipping artist. I haven't found a way of selecting all artists and then moving to the next level in the list (i.e. Albums). Have I missed something? Could you add it please if it is not there already? This is really important to those with classical music collections. 2. I use tags enclosed in [brackets]. I know many others do as well. The keyboard doesn't seem to include either [ or ] as far as I can see. Is it possible to add them to the 09 key, for example please? If not possible, I can cope by changing the tag delimiters. 3. When a playlist is displayed and I press the Next/Last track keys or Pause, it reverts to cover flow. As most of my albums don't have covers available, I'd prefer it to stay on the track list so I can see what's happening. 4. Only one artist is shown for each track. Often I have many artists for a given track, separated by ; so that Squeezebox parses them into separate artists. I would like them all to be shown, as Squeezebox does. Great work! The above are just suggestions, oriented towards the classical music collection. Rob -- Rob W Rob W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Locuth;487980 Wrote: Hey guys Can you confirm or disconfirm that the cache folder 'SlimCtrl' resides in in your root directory, i.e. '/SlimCtrl'. That's where my cache is yes. -- NikolajC NikolajC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18676 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Great work on the new release. Haven't noticed any issues during daily operation with this one. Will podcasts be supported at some point? I guess it should be under apps (the icon with the globe). Thanks for a great program. -- NikolajC NikolajC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18676 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks Nikolaj - good suggestion. I'll check it out. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hey guys I have a question and request to all SlimControl users Where do you have set up the cache directory 1. in internal memory 2. on an SD/MMC/... card If it's option 1: Can you confirm or disconfirm that the cache folder 'SlimCtrl' resides in in your root directory, i.e. '/SlimCtrl'. Reason I am asking is because I am considering not to query the user to select a cache location at the initial program start. The internal memory is much faster plus, some people are having a hard time to make that decision. Thanks Sebastian PS: To change the cache location Settings - Button 'Cache...' - Button 'Delete All'. Than, restart SControl -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks - holding down the 0 key allows me to enter a space. The problem now is that the search doesn't work as expected if there's a space in the search string. For example if I want to find a song called find a river, and I enter find a river as the search string, it will return all songs with either river or find in the title, rather than only those which contain the phrase find a river. Is there any way of configuring search to look for only the specific string entered, even if there are embedded spaces? -- itm itm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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itm;487398 Wrote: Thanks - holding down the 0 key allows me to enter a space. The problem now is that the search doesn't work as expected if there's a space in the search string. For example if I want to find a song called find a river, and I enter find a river as the search string, it will return all songs with either river or find in the title, rather than only those which contain the phrase find a river. Is there any way of configuring search to look for only the specific string entered, even if there are embedded spaces? That's so funny - I actually have a track called find the river. I just found out by seearching find the. Yes, you're right - I have to tell SQCenter to look for the phrase and it will work in the next release. Check here for current bugfix status. http://sc.sciatec.de/slimcontrol_work.shtml -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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itm;482916 Wrote: Does anyone know if there's a way to include a space in a search string using the on-screen keyboard? its there just press long a key--- i do not know whichone it was and i have today not sc in work -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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itm;482916 Wrote: Does anyone know if there's a way to include a space in a search string using the on-screen keyboard? Use the on-screen kbd like you would on a phone. Holding down a key for = 1 second will produce the decimals and like indicated by the bottom character. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Does anyone know if there's a way to include a space in a search string using the on-screen keyboard? -- itm itm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi, Installed 1.0 beta to my storage cards on my HTC Tytn II HTC Blue Angel, both running WinMo 6.1, shows my 4183 albums but does not show album artwork, coverflow, finger scrolling through albums on screen sticks... Would it be better installed on to device storage... Jay -- JayLaFunk JayLaFunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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JayLaFunk;482142 Wrote: Hi, Installed 1.0 beta to my storage cards on my HTC Tytn II HTC Blue Angel, both running WinMo 6.1, shows my 4183 albums but does not show album artwork, coverflow, finger scrolling through albums on screen sticks... Would it be better installed on to device storage... Jay Most definitely Storage cards are significantly slower then the internal memory. If you had v.0.98 installed, ysou should wipe the cache. -Settings-Cache It does not show any artwork at all ? Can you send me the logfile, please. Located in: programs/SlimCtrl 1.0b/SCLog.txt That is, after you let SlimControl run for a minute or so. Thanks, Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi Sebastian. Sorry, have been out of touch for some time now. I have been moving, and everything here is still a big mess. So I have not had any time to look at the manual. In the meantime i see that lots of new things have happened, It is a very sexy upgrade for your software there :) Everything seems to be running very smooth. In the short time i have been testing it, I only found 2 minor things (really only cosmetic at this point); - in settings Music server settings: The green square with a V in it is halfway out of the window frame. Its still possible to use, though. - main player window: When playing all songs from one artist, the first piece of album-art is always shown, even if playing a song from another album by the same artist. It would be nice if the correct piece of album art was lifted to the front, or if the album art slided out, to show the currently playing album art. Very nice with the feature to synchronize players (music / volume). This software just keeps getting better :) Oh, and a little requst: Would it be possible to integrate an option to create a MusicIP mix from a song / artist / album, when browsing the music collection? -that would be an awesome addition. Cheers David -- spumanti spumanti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=27080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hey spumanti Yes, it's been some time. I hope all is going well for you and your girl. Thanks for the notes. I'll look into that. - in settings Music server settings The green 'square' at the top-right: Do you have a scrollbar overlapping it ? - main player window: you mean, the coverflow does not scroll to the currently playing album? I don't recall your screen size, maybe you can add it to you previous post. Cheers Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Oh, yes... My device is a HTC diamond, resolution 480 x 640 I attached some manual screenshots as i cant seem to get my phone to make proper screenshots! I have just tested the album art again. When i add all albums from one artist to a playlist, and start playing, then when a song from the next album is played, it still shows album art from the first album, and it will keep showing that. I can of course scroll in the album art to see the right cover, but it would be nice if it did that automatically. The same goes, if it's a playlist with random artists. It will show the album art from the first known album by that artist, even if the song playing is from a different album by that artist. It does change the album art, when changing artist. (hope my explaining makes sense :) ) +---+ |Filename: Music server settings.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8620| +---+ -- spumanti spumanti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=27080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Your explanations make total sense :-) I found the cause of the cover-problem and fixed it. I also fixed the green checkbox I will maintain a list of reported bugs and their status here: http://sc.sciatec.de/slimcontrol_work.shtml I will probably also put a set of reference screenshots on the page. So new users know what SControl is supposed to like like and if buttons are missing on their device. Window Mopbile is damn diverse! -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi I have tested the 1.0b a bit and it looks really good. Album art is a bit slow, but that may be caused by a slow phone and/or server. HTC TYTN (1)/WinxpSp3 on a 800mhz. One thing that bugs me a little os the rightswipe. To me a left-swipe would feel much more natural. By the way I use it lefthanded. Other than that it works really well. Good work over all. I hope you will succeed in setting up some sort of business around this fine product. BR Mogens -- Muele BR Mogens 2 Controllers, 2 Receivers, 1 Squeezeplay. Running off old 800 mhz IBM T21 Thinkpad. Muele's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21310 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Excellent update Sebastian. Will be testing some more for the next few weeks. Congrats on a great program. -- NikolajC NikolajC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18676 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Muele;481740 Wrote: Hi I have tested the 1.0b a bit and it looks really good. Album art is a bit slow, but that may be caused by a slow phone and/or server. HTC TYTN You mean the album art in now-playing screen? SlimControl caches covers on-the-fly. So the first time the album scrolls into view, it's beeing loaded from the server. The next time you run SControl it will load images from the device. The same in the browser or the current playlist One thing that bugs me a little os the rightswipe. To me a left-swipe would feel much more natural. By the way I use it lefthanded. I understand what you mean. I suppose I was thinking of it as flipping pages in a book. So right flipping is going back. But I'd gladly make an opinion poll and follow the majority. Other than that it works really well. Good work over all. I hope you will succeed in setting up some sort of business around this fine product. Thank you. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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NikolajC;481752 Wrote: Excellent update Sebastian. Will be testing some more for the next few weeks. Congrats on a great program. *blush* -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi, how is the development going so far? Its been a couple of months and so I was curious about how 0.98 is progressing??? Is this tracked on another thread? Cheers, Chris. -- Chris Moore Chris Moore's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks for asking. It's going rather well. I intend to upload 1.0 beta later this evening. There are several new features. SQ.Center player settings and alarms. A better looking Miniplayer/Multiplayer view. A context menu in the current playlist. Right now I am implementing a smoother Standby-wakeup scheme I'll be posting some more later. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Yes. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Locuth;481161 Wrote: Thanks for asking. It's going rather well. I intend to upload 1.0 beta later this evening. There are several new features. SQ.Center player settings and alarms. A better looking Miniplayer/Multiplayer view. A context menu in the current playlist. Right now I am implementing a smoother Standby-wakeup scheme I'll be posting some more later. Will the beta be available from your web? /Mike -- Leahcim Leahcim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14059 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Unfortunately 320x320 is the one thing that never worked out right. I've made several attempts in 0.98 to properly handle 320x320 screens. Plus I implemented a new GUI layout. But SControl does not recognize this resolution. Thanks for reminding me of the 0.98 release note. . -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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On your site you refer to 320x320 as a new feature in 0.98. Since you're releasing 1.0 beta, does that mean you've added 320x320 support? /D -- deriksen deriksen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30765 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hello guys SlimControl 1.0 beta is online and ready for you. Be kind if you discover any bugs - I'll fix them. As to the usability - I'd like to give three important hints: 1. Whenever you are in a list (players, current playlist, albums, etc.) Swipe-right on the list to go 'back', if applicable. 2. The player-list can be closed by swiping-right (as there is no 'back' really^^) Cklicking anywhere outside the list closes it too. 3. The current playlist (now playing screen) displays 30 items at a time. You can navigate back and forth by swiping-right/left. The two somewhat ugly arrow-buttons at the bottom do the same. Cklicking anywhere outside the list closes it. Oh, and a 4th hint. The current playlist has context-menu that you access via taphold. I am humbly awaiting your feedback. Cheers Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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It requires WM 2003 or anything higher. Only ARM processors (or derivates like PXA). Already with the advent of WM 2003, most devices were ARM equipped. Supported screen res: 240x320 480x640 (portrait) Version 1.0 will also support: 240x240 240x400 480x800 (portrait and landscape) -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Locuth;458124 Wrote: Yes, unfortunately SC will not work with 320x320. It does not properly recognize that screen. Eventually I will switch to another dev-environment which supports WM5x and WM6x natively. But not too soon. Many thanks again to DeWayne who helped me figure things out. Locuth, Does your app require a particular processor? Or just Window Mobile 2003 or newer? Can you summarize the screen resolutions that 1) presently work and 2) you are working on? Tnx, looks like a very cool app! David -- nhannidog nhannidog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Looks perfect. Actually meaning to dig out an old Dell Axim x50v that must be in a draw somewhere to try that with it too running at 640x480. The predictive text works by searching for any character mapped to the key in any part of the list text. So on a standard phone keypad a single press of the number 2 button matches anything with a, b or c. The letters are then sequential so a press of 8 would add t, u and v to the search string giving pattern matching for: at, au, av, bt, bu, bv, ct, cu and cv. Therefore within a few key presses you can match to a very short list. -- Chris Moore Chris Moore's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi, for your roadmap (as per our email discussion): 1) Support for 800x480. 2) Predictive search - can't think of the correct name for the search mechanism, but as used in the contacts screen of SPB Mobile Shell. 3) The ability to switch the player off. Excellent so far... one day in. Cheers, Chris. -- Chris Moore Chris Moore's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hey Chris 480x800 is being tested. Can you explain a little more about the 'predictive' part of the predictive search. I have an idea, but don't know whether that's what you want. As to the player power, maybe something like below ? +---+ |Filename: Clipboard.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8116| +---+ -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
