Re: [slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
808htfan wrote: When I browse into 'Music Folder' -- 'Name of a folder inside my music folder' there's a pic of an album cover right under the 'Items 1 to X' heading, then the list of files below it. I'm sorry, I now realize that you are referring to the WWW interface - I thought you were saying that the image filenames were actually appearing on the Squeezebox itself. If this is really a problem for you, perhaps there's a way using permissions or filenaming that would allow you to keep the images in place but have slim ignore them. -- Chip Hart - Pediatric Solutions * Physician's Computer Company chip @ pcc.com * 1 Main St. #7, Winooski, VT 05404 800-722-7708 * http://www.pcc.com/~chip f.802-846-8178 * Pediatric Software Just Got Smarter. Your Practice Just Got Healthier. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
Hi all This thread has wondered OT from original posters question, and I have to admit to having more than a small interest in the final answer!! Surely someone knows whether we are supposed to be able to turn artwork off. Or is there no longer a concern about artwork's impact on slimserver??!! Please, pretty please, any answers? Nic -- DrNic DrNic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=92 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
By turn artwork off do you mean not display it? 6.5 now has a gallery mode (which shows artwork) and a list mode which doesn't. Icon top right of the left hand pane in browse album, for example. I wouldn't have thought that simply having references to artwork in the database would impact performance? Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
On 6-Oct-06, at 6:09 AM, DrNic wrote: Hi all This thread has wondered OT from original posters question, and I have to admit to having more than a small interest in the final answer!! Surely someone knows whether we are supposed to be able to turn artwork off. Or is there no longer a concern about artwork's impact on slimserver??!! Artwork a much less of a concern, as it is collected by a separate process, cached by the server and somewhat more easily left out by not selecting 'gallery mode'. The original pref was put in becuase it was a very long post-scan process plus affected the presence of the browse artwork option, and caused it to take a very long time to load. The appearance of single artworks on song pages and album pages was not the main reason for that pref. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
kdf;143677 Wrote: On 6-Oct-06, at 6:09 AM, DrNic wrote: Hi all This thread has wondered OT from original posters question, and I have to admit to having more than a small interest in the final answer!! Surely someone knows whether we are supposed to be able to turn artwork off. Or is there no longer a concern about artwork's impact on slimserver??!! Artwork a much less of a concern, as it is collected by a separate process, cached by the server and somewhat more easily left out by not selecting 'gallery mode'. The original pref was put in becuase it was a very long post-scan process plus affected the presence of the browse artwork option, and caused it to take a very long time to load. The appearance of single artworks on song pages and album pages was not the main reason for that pref. -kdf Thanks Firstly in reply to ceejay - I was meaning actually turning off looking for artwork at all (like in older SS releases), have already discovered the joys of the gallery!! But thanks for putting a thought forward! :) However, I gather from KDF's post that SS isn't as bogged down by artwork as the older servers were. But why is this still in SS 6.5 help section then?! :) Memory usage for Artwork Artwork for large song libraries places a significant memory load on the slimserver. There are references to the cover art kept in memory of the SlimServer for each song. This can add up fairly quickly. The SlimServer stores, in memory, the path where the artwork can be found for each song. Long path names and many songs can cause the SlimServer to use more memory than is phycially installed on the server. This can have any of a number of impacts, from slow performance to complete failure of the SlimServer to run. The raw artwork file is read on demand, so artwork file size has no impact on the SlimServer itself. You can turn off the artwork scan completely to save memory usage. Its in Server Settings, additional, performance. This is what I was originally referring to and hope to avoid - even if it means no artwork at all Thanks Nic -- DrNic DrNic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=92 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
Help hasn't been updated in a while - have you checked out Player Setup? It's been a long time since setup in the display was worded like that. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
More about my original question, I now see that there is no 'Do not look for artwork' option anywhere. All I want is to browse my Music Folder -- click one of the folders I have in there -- and see the list of files in there without having some album's pic at the top of the list. Is that not possible? It used to be. Thanks -- 808htfan 808htfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
808htfan wrote: All I want is to browse my Music Folder -- click one of the folders I have in there -- and see the list of files in there without having some album's pic at the top of the list. ? slimserver has never, ever shown anything except (sub)directories and music files when you access the Browse - Music Folders option...or am *I* missing something? -- Chip Hart - Pediatric Solutions * Physician's Computer Company chip @ pcc.com * 1 Main St. #7, Winooski, VT 05404 800-722-7708 * http://www.pcc.com/~chip f.802-846-8178 * Pediatric Software Just Got Smarter. Your Practice Just Got Healthier. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
808htfan;143924 Wrote: More about my original question, I now see that there is no 'Do not look for artwork' option anywhere. All I want is to browse my Music Folder -- click one of the folders I have in there -- and see the list of files in there without having some album's pic at the top of the list. Is that not possible? It used to be. Thanks You can toggle the gallery view on and off with the button to the right of the Sort By box at the top. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
Chip Hart;143929 Wrote: 808htfan wrote: All I want is to browse my Music Folder -- click one of the folders I have in there -- and see the list of files in there without having some album's pic at the top of the list. ? slimserver has never, ever shown anything except (sub)directories and music files when you access the Browse - Music Folders option...or am *I* missing something? -- Chip Hart - Pediatric Solutions * Physician's Computer Company chip @ pcc.com * 1 Main St. #7, Winooski, VT 05404 800-722-7708 * http://www.pcc.com/~chip f.802-846-8178 * Pediatric Software Just Got Smarter. Your Practice Just Got Healthier. When I browse into 'Music Folder' -- 'Name of a folder inside my music folder' there's a pic of an album cover right under the 'Items 1 to X' heading, then the list of files below it. -- 808htfan 808htfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
It is indeed correct that if you do Browse/Music Folder and then drill down through whatever is your particular directory structure to get to the bottom folder level - an individual album - you do see the cover image above the list of tracks on that album when you open this folder. I can also confirm that if artwork is not present for any album you get no image, so there is no annoying question mark graphic as in some other views. Personally I cannot see any drawback with this. If I have gone to the trouble of getting artwork for each of my albums I would not mind actually seeing it at some stage. If we can be assured that this adds no overhead or instability to the operation of SS or the rescanning then it seems fine to me the way it is. No doubt there could be a switch devised to allow this to be turned off but, frankly, why bother. Just my 2p of course. davep -- davep davep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
Jim Larson;143145 Wrote: I also just upgraded to 6.5, and today to 6.5.1, and I'm seeing the artwork from 1 song (in the ID3 tag) showing up as the same artwork for 98% of my other albums. The majority of my 3200 songs actually have no artwork at all, and I believe I had artwork turned off prior to this new version. All the songs are in one large flat C:\My Music directory, with just a couple albums in subfolders. There are no .jpg or .gif files in this directory. I've deleted the cache directory and did several full clear/rescans, but get the same results. I believe that slimserver applies album artwork found in a folder (embedded in id3 tag or as seperate jpg) to all tracks in that folder. Either delete the artwork from the one song or change your directory structure. IMHO keeping thousands of files in one folder is not a very good idea anyway (performance, file browsing). -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
svillardi;143143 Wrote: OK, I just upgraded, and now I have NO artwork. So, I am completely lost... What happened? SlimServer Version: 6.5.0 - 9916 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Where do you store your artwork? What are the artwork files called? What are your settings under Server Settings - Interface - Artwork? -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
slimpy;143168 Wrote: I believe that slimserver applies album artwork found in a folder (embedded in id3 tag or as seperate jpg) to all tracks in that folder. Either delete the artwork from the one song or change your directory structure. IMHO keeping thousands of files in one folder is not a very good idea anyway (performance, file browsing). -s. Thanks -- I'll restructure everything by artist/album folders this weekend. When I first got my SB2 a while ago, I thought I had read that all the music had to be in one folder. Guess I had misinterpreted that to mean no sub-directories. (The 2 sub-directories that I have now were actually created by accident.) Any recommendations on a good program to restructure this automatically, based on existing tags? -- Jim Larson Jim Larson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1869 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
Jim Larson;143473 Wrote: Any recommendations on a good program to restructure this automatically, based on existing tags? If you're on Windows, mp3tag (freeware) will do this easily. I am pretty sure that TagRename, and probably several others, will also do it. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
Well, I couldn't wait for the weekend -- I got up to speed on mp3tag tonight, learned about using the \ to create sub-directories from the tag fields, fixed a few more tags, then let it rip on restructuring all my tunes. Amazing how well that went - I've now got a nicely organized \My Music directory. Only a few duplicate songs now remain at the root level. I even grabbed a few album covers off of Amazon. I then did a clear/rescan in slimserver, and voila, my artwork problem is gone! Thank you slimpy and aubuti! -- Jim Larson Jim Larson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1869 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
808htfan;142672 Wrote: I just upgraded to 6.5 from 6.3.1. I seem to have forgotten how to turn off artwork. Wasn't there a 'do not look for artwork' or something like that in 'performance' or 'behavior' or somewhere? Have I gone blind...has that setting been moved somewhere? I can't find it. Thanks! Hi You have not gone blind! I too remember that setting, and after upgrading to 6.5 can also no longer find it. I have posted a question relating to this a week or so ago - but alas have not had an answer (yet?). Whether SS doesn't bother to look for artwork unless you are in gallery view (fishbone) I don't know. What I am concerned about is that artwork can seriously clog a large library down, which is why I think the option to disable it was originally there, are we supposed to manually remove artwork if performance is hit by a growing library? Nic -- DrNic DrNic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=92 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
Thanks DrNic. -- 808htfan 808htfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
OK, I just upgraded, and now I have NO artwork. So, I am completely lost... What happened? SlimServer Version: 6.5.0 - 9916 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 -- svillardi svillardi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7474 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Turn off artwork in 6.5?
I also just upgraded to 6.5, and today to 6.5.1, and I'm seeing the artwork from 1 song (in the ID3 tag) showing up as the same artwork for 98% of my other albums. The majority of my 3200 songs actually have no artwork at all, and I believe I had artwork turned off prior to this new version. All the songs are in one large flat C:\My Music directory, with just a couple albums in subfolders. There are no .jpg or .gif files in this directory. I've deleted the cache directory and did several full clear/rescans, but get the same results. -- Jim Larson Jim Larson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1869 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
