[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-31 Thread max . spicer

I've never heard of ungrant.  To be honest, if you're not comfortable
with MySQL already, you may be better off using the supported solution
i.e. the sqllite db.

You don't need to specifically create the slimserver user.  'grant all
on slimserver.* to slimserver' implicitly creates the user called
slimserver.

Max

Patrick Dixon Wrote: 
> Thanks, but that gives the same result.
> 
> I think I probably need to create MySQL user 'slimserver' first (the
> wiki doesn't mention this at all) but I'm new to SQL ;-(
> 
> Also the MySQL doc doesn't seem to mention Ungrant.  GRANT and REVOKE,
> but not Ungrant.  WTF is Ungrant?


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Re: [slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-30 Thread Jack Coates

rkeeney wrote:
macallf Wrote: 
  

I had the same problem using MySql 5. Removed 5 and installed 4.1,
recreated the slimserver database and assigned all permissions to user
slimserver.



Thanks, Mark.  I had noticed warnings from others about using v5 so I
installed v4.1 and no luck.  I completely uninstalled everything and
reinstalled SS and went back to the default DB.  Maybe I'll give it one
more try.  If still unsuccessful I will await the SS version that fully
supports MySQL, maybe v6.5?

Anyway, thanks to all who offered suggestions.  This forum is a great
resource!

Regards,
Rob
  


If you didn't get the slimserver preference file edit just right, it 
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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-30 Thread rkeeney

macallf Wrote: 
> I had the same problem using MySql 5. Removed 5 and installed 4.1,
> recreated the slimserver database and assigned all permissions to user
> slimserver.

Thanks, Mark.  I had noticed warnings from others about using v5 so I
installed v4.1 and no luck.  I completely uninstalled everything and
reinstalled SS and went back to the default DB.  Maybe I'll give it one
more try.  If still unsuccessful I will await the SS version that fully
supports MySQL, maybe v6.5?

Anyway, thanks to all who offered suggestions.  This forum is a great
resource!

Regards,
Rob


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-29 Thread mrfantasy

I got MySQL running last night.  It was fun, and I even updated the wiki
page a bit with some pointers.  

I haven't run it through its paces yet but it seems a bit more
responsive.  The catch for me is I'm using a bit more memory
(slimserver uses less, mysqld uses more than the difference) and with a
128 MB Kuro Box there's not much room to play.

Also of note is my album count went from 1018 to 994.  I think some of
this might be that I've renamed a few albums (incorrect tagging from
freedb) and perhaps the SQLLite database wasn't cleaned up correctly. 
Either that or I'm missing some albums (but I haven't noticed any yet.)


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-29 Thread macallf

rkeeney Wrote: 
> OK, that was helpful.  I copied the aforementioned files into the
> specified directories (choosing to overwrite some directories already
> there).  Now, slimserver starts and creates the tables but just stalls.
> According to MySQL Administrator, there are now 145 rows in the newly
> created tracks table, 1 row in the metainformation table and nothing
> else.  I started over again and it gets to that point again and stalls.
> No indication in the cmd window what's happening.  The tray icon will
> say it is running but it will not open in the browser.
> 
> This is getting very frustrating.  I suspect I'm missing something
> obvious but I don't know what.
> 
> Regards,
> Rob...

I had the same problem using MySql 5. Removed 5 and installed 4.1,
recreated the slimserver database and assigned all permissions to user
slimserver.

Started slimserver and the tables were created and all of the tables
were then being populated, as viewed in mysqladministrator.

Hope this helps ..Mark


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-26 Thread rkeeney

Patrick Dixon Wrote: 
> If you download DBD-mysql-2.9008.zip you'll see it contains a file
> called DBD-mysql-2.9008.tar.gz.  Unzip that file and you will see the
> all files with paths under /blib/arch, blib/html and blib/lib.
> I assume that's what you're looking for.

OK, that was helpful.  I copied the aforementioned files into the
specified directories (choosing to overwrite some directories already
there).  Now, slimserver starts and creates the tables but just stalls.
According to MySQL Administrator, there are now 145 rows in the newly
created tracks table, 1 row in the metainformation table and nothing
else.  I started over again and it gets to that point again and stalls.
No indication in the cmd window what's happening.  The tray icon will
say it is running but it will not open in the browser.

This is getting very frustrating.  I suspect I'm missing something
obvious but I don't know what.

Regards,
Rob...


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-26 Thread Patrick Dixon

If you download DBD-mysql-2.9008.zip you'll see it contains a file
called DBD-mysql-2.9008.tar.gz.  Unzip that file and you will see the
all files with paths under /blib/arch, blib/html and blib/lib.

I assume that's what you're looking for.

Alternatively you could start slimserver using your ActiveState Perl
installation.  In a command window type:

cd "C:\Program Files\Slimserver\Server"
slimserver.pl

You need to keep the command window open in the background for
slimserver to continue running.


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-26 Thread rkeeney

Patrick Dixon Wrote: 
> I'm not actually using XP but I have installed Perl modules on XP before
> using PPM
> 
> IIRC, you do something like this:
> 
> In a command window:
> cd C:\Perl\bin (or wherever your Perl is)
> ppm
> install DBD-mysql
> exit

Thanks, but I've already done that. The module's installed in a
sub-directory of my Perl installation.  Slimserver doesn't 'see' it for
some reason.

The wiki on the SD site says the following:

> For Windows platform without Perl installed: Get the latest DBD-mysql
> from ActiveState...
> http://ppm.activestate.com/PPMPackages/zips/8xx-builds-only/Windows/
> The files in blib/arch should be copied to
> server/CPAN/arch/5.8/MSWin32-x86-multi-thread and those in blib/lib
> should be copied to server/CPAN. This will make them available to
> SlimServer.

This doesn't make any sense.  You get a zip file but nothing that maps
to these instructions.  Anyway, sorry to be a pest!

Regards,
Rob


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-26 Thread Patrick Dixon

I'm not actually using XP but I have installed Perl modules on XP before
using PPM

IIRC, you do something like this:

In a command window:
cd C:\Perl\bin (or wherever your Perl is)
ppm
install DBD-mysql
exit


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-26 Thread rkeeney

treble Wrote: 
> Try starting slim.exe from the 'command line' (open a start->run->cmd
> window, cd to the slimserver directory, and execute slim).  I found out
> that way that DBD::mysql was the problem... (if you haven't installed
> your own perl see the wiki on how to install DBD::mysql on Windows).

That does indicate the problem.  However, I have ActiveState Perl
installed and I installed DBD::mysql but slimserver is not finding it
in the right place.

Where is the wiki you refer to?

Regards,
Rob.


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread treble

Try starting slim.exe from the 'command line' (open a start->run->cmd
window, cd to the slimserver directory, and execute slim).  I found out
that way that DBD::mysql was the problem...


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread rkeeney

OK, I installed MySQL 4.1
Using MySQL Administrator, I added a user ('slimserver' w/ no password)
and a schema (slimdb) and assigned all available privileges to the
user.

I installed DBD::mysql

I edited the slimserver.pref file as indicated in other posts.

Now, Slimserver just sits in the tray saying 'Slimserver starting' but
never starts.  I'm running all on a WinXP box.

What am I missing?

Regards,
Rob...


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Patrick Dixon

stinkingpig Wrote: 
> Patrick Dixon wrote:
> > Hmm, well I've spent the 5 minutes and I'm getting nowhere ...
> >
> > I'm getting:
> >
> > mysql> Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver [identified by
> > 'password'];
> > ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the
> > manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right
> > syntax to use near 'Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver
> > [identified by 'password']' at line 1
> >
> > and I have no idea what any of it means!
> >
> >
> >   
> try this:
> 
> mysql> grant all on slimserver.* to [EMAIL PROTECTED] identified by
> 
> 'password';
> 
> the wiki forgets to specify where the user is, and assumes that people
> 
> know what [] means (it means --identified by 'password'-- is
> optional).
> 
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Thanks Jack.  I got it working using:
GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON slimserver.* TO 'slimserver'@'localhost';

(The wiki also uses 'Ungrant', for some reason I really don't
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Re: [slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Jack Coates

Patrick Dixon wrote:

Hmm, well I've spent the 5 minutes and I'm getting nowhere ...

I'm getting:

mysql> Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver [identified by
'password'];
ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the
manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right
syntax to use near 'Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver
[identified by 'password']' at line 1

and I have no idea what any of it means!


  

try this:

mysql> grant all on slimserver.* to [EMAIL PROTECTED] identified by 
'password';


the wiki forgets to specify where the user is, and assumes that people 
know what [] means (it means --identified by 'password'-- is optional).


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Browny

Robin Bowes Wrote: 
> To use phpmyadmin? Yes you do.
> 
> phpMyAdmin uses (surprisingly enough) php which needs a web server,
> e.g.
> apache.
> 
> R.

Yup - my mistake (it's turning into a long day!).

Nice to hear Patrick's got it working.


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Re: [slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Robin Bowes
Browny said the following on 01/25/2006 01:30 PM:
> Install it onto your Ubuntu box.  You can then use the browser on your
> XP box.  You don't need to install a web server (bit like Slimserver in
> that respect.

To use phpmyadmin? Yes you do.

phpMyAdmin uses (surprisingly enough) php which needs a web server, e.g.
apache.

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Re: [slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Michael Herger

You can then use the browser on your XP box.

Sorry to be a pain, but what address do I type in the browser?


The server's IP or host name. But you'll need to install Apache as well...

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Re: [slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Robin Bowes
Patrick Dixon said the following on 01/25/2006 10:17 AM:
> Hmm, well I've spent the 5 minutes and I'm getting nowhere ...
> 
> I'm getting:
> 
> mysql> Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver [identified by
> 'password'];
> ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the
> manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right
> syntax to use near 'Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver
> [identified by 'password']' at line 1

A few problems there...

Assuming you've done the initial MySQL setup, changed the root password,
etc., you need to use the following:

# mysqladmin -u root -p create slimserver
Enter password: (enter slimserver root password)
# mysql -u root -p
Enter password: (enter slimserver root password)
Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MySQL connection id is 2415 to server version: 4.1.7-standard

Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.

mysql> grant all on slimserver.* to 'slimserver'@'localhost' identified
by 'password';
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.11 sec)
mysql> quit
Bye

HTH,

R.

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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Patrick Dixon

> You can then use the browser on your XP box.Sorry to be a pain, but what 
> address do I type in the browser?


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Browny

Install it onto your Ubuntu box.  You can then use the browser on your
XP box.  You don't need to install a web server (bit like Slimserver in
that respect.

re your rant - thats why I use ClarkConnect.  Simple web interface - I
installed MySQL by selecting it in a list.  It even installed
MyPHPAdmin automatically for me.  Linux purists will wince at this, but
it was very easy to do.

Better leave it now though - Don't want to start a Linux distro war on
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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Patrick Dixon

I'm not blaming SD, I'm blaming Max Spicer who said it was a 5 minute
job following the wiki ;-)

I'm not sure that phpMyAdmin will work for me either as I don't
understand how to install it: am I installing it on the headless Ubuntu
machine, or the XP desktop?  And I don't have a webserver running on
either anyway!

[RANT ON]Why, oh why, don't Open Source people put a short description
of, what their product is, what it does, and what you need to use it,
on their home page.  Everyone seems to assume a level of expertise and
familiarity that most of us just don't have.  It's a bit like me
sticking them in a machine and telling them that you control it with
the cyclic, pedals and collective - and don't forget to start the
engine up first.  They probably would even know it was a helicopter -
let alone get it airbourne. [RANT OFF]


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Browny

Patrick Dixon Wrote: 
> I think the answer to the thread title is:
> 
> Not until the wiki is updated with much more comprehensive
> instructions, unless you are very familiar with MySQL and updating Perl
> modules.
Good Point - to be fair to Slimdevices though SQLite is still the
default for now.  I suppose the wiki will catch up when MySQL is the
default.

One of the things that I believe the developers are looking at for the
switch is how to automate all this.

In the meantime it should be possible to create a little script that
can be run on MySQL to set things up - I'll have a look into this.


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Patrick Dixon

Thanks for the help.

I'll try that when my machine come back after it's update of CPAN.

(I was only tring to get DBD::mysql in case that was what was causing
my error/slimserver crash)


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Browny

Patrick Dixon Wrote: 
> Thanks.
> 
> I'm installing this via ssh/putty on a headless Ubuntu machine - I
> don't think tray icons are going to work for me!

Download the MySQL PHP Admin Client from:

http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php

This gives you a browser interface into MySQL on your Ubuntu machine.

>From here it should be pretty straightforward to create a database,
create a MySQL user account (e.g. Mine is called SlimDB), Make sure the
account has full priviliges on your new database and can access
locally.

You then should be able to follow the wiki ok.

Hope this helps.  I'm at work at the moment so don't have access to my
server.  If you need any more info I can check this evening.

Browny


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Re: [slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Dave Strickler


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Re: [slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Michael Herger

I'm installing this via ssh/putty on a headless Ubuntu machine - I
don't think tray icons are going to work for me!


I'm repeating myself: phpMyAdmin has been the "headless" MySQL  
administrator's best friend for years.


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Patrick Dixon

Thanks, but that gives the same result.

I think I probably need to create MySQL user 'slimserver' first (the
wiki doesn't mention this at all) but I'm new to SQL ;-(

Also the MySQL doc doesn't seem to mention Ungrant.  GRANT and REVOKE,
but not Ungrant.  WTF is Ungrant?


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Re: [slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Dr Lovegrove
On 25/01/06, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Be nice to have better instructions on how to install MySQL itself..
> > Took me
> > a while to suss that I had to login as root, create a new user, create
> > the
> > database, grant root permissions to use the database, grant the new user
> > permissions, etc.. This was all with 4.1.. Maybe it's better with 5 ?
>
> Install phpMyAdmin. It's so much easier to do these administrative tasks.

I gave up with the command-line and installed "MySQL Administrator 1.1" in
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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread oktup

Patrick Dixon Wrote: 
> Hmm, well I've spent the 5 minutes and I'm getting nowhere ...
> 
> I'm getting:
> 
> mysql> Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver [identified by
> 'password'];
> ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the
> manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right
> syntax to use near 'Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver
> [identified by 'password']' at line 1
> 
> and I have no idea what any of it means!

Apologies if I'm barking up the wrong tree here, because I'm not using
slimserver myself (yet!), but I assume you should be typing something
like:


Code:

Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver identified by 
'your_password_here';



Or, if the user 'slimserver' doesn't have a password defined for them,
just:


Code:

Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver;



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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Patrick Dixon

> Be nice to have better instructions on how to install MySQL itself..
> Took me
> a while to suss that I had to login as root, create a new user, create
> the
> database, grant root permissions to use the database, grant the new
> user
> permissions, etc.. This was all with 4.1.. Maybe it's better with 5 ?Any 
> chance you could share your knowledge?

I'm blindly following the wiki instructions - I figured out how to
login as root -
mysql -u root

and the first line -
create database slimserver;

which I assume creates the db, seems to execute.  After that ?

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Re: [slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Michael Herger
Be nice to have better instructions on how to install MySQL itself..  
Took me
a while to suss that I had to login as root, create a new user, create  
the

database, grant root permissions to use the database, grant the new user
permissions, etc.. This was all with 4.1.. Maybe it's better with 5 ?


Install phpMyAdmin. It's so much easier to do these administrative tasks.


Oh, also I had to upgrade my version of perl for 6.5


...and I'd have to install MySQL 4.x - Slimserver does not like 3.x. :-/

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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Patrick Dixon

Hmm, well I've spent the 5 minutes and I'm getting nowhere ...

I'm getting:

mysql> Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver [identified by
'password'];
ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the
manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right
syntax to use near 'Ungrant all on slimserver.* to slimserver
[identified by 'password']' at line 1

and I have no idea what any of it means!


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Re: [slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-25 Thread Dr Lovegrove
On 24/01/06, max. spicer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well prompted!  I put mysql on my server last week in order to serve
> another application.  Your post prompted me to take the obvious step of
> making SlimServer use it.  Following the wiki entry, it took me an
> obsolute maximum of 5 minutes to set up.

I switched yesterday as well, and am pretty impressed with performance
as well.. No more pauses in randommix - yay ! :-)

Few minor gripes though:

Be nice to have better instructions on how to install MySQL itself.. Took me
a while to suss that I had to login as root, create a new user, create the
database, grant root permissions to use the database, grant the new user
permissions, etc.. This was all with 4.1.. Maybe it's better with 5 ?

Slimserver 6.5 kept falling over on startup as it turns out it needed some
CPAN stuff adding..

Oh, also I had to upgrade my version of perl for 6.5 - kept giving a popup
about some kind of memory thing not being supported.. Latest activestate
build did the trick..

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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-24 Thread max . spicer

Well prompted!  I put mysql on my server last week in order to serve
another application.  Your post prompted me to take the obvious step of
making SlimServer use it.  Following the wiki entry, it took me an
obsolute maximum of 5 minutes to set up.  I'd say things definitely
seem faster as a result, although I've not had much time to check.  I'm
convinced that random mix now takes less time to select tracks - the gap
between starting a mix and the first song starting to play seems much
shorter.

Max


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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-23 Thread Dave Strickler


Sounds like I should give it a shot. I had trouble creating the DBs the other day, so I will see if I am doing something wrong. I'll let you know my experiences.
 
Thanks for the feedback...
 
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[slim] Re: When should I switch from SQLLite to MySQL?

2006-01-21 Thread Browny

I have updated from using SQLite to MySQL (4.1) and found performance to
be MUCH more to my liking - in particular in relation to doing a
complete rescan.  I'm currently running 6000 flacs on a ClarkConnect
1.3Ghz Athlon Server with 512Mb RAM.  There are no latency issues for
that I can see - searches included.

The reason I switch was to allow me to view and update the Slimserver
database while slimserver is running.

If you look at Slimserver's roadmap you will find that MySQL is the way
Slimserver is going for the future.  Why not early adopt?  It is pretty
painless (see the wiki) and you can go back very easily if you don't
like it.

One final note of caution - I have seen a couple of posts relating to
issues running on MySQL 5.  Stick with 4.1 for now.


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