Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-22 Thread jimbobvfr400

Sorry if I've misunderstood this buy aren't you changing 2 things at
once which is pointless for narrowing it down.

Try leaving as it is but using the internal player, you could also try
connecting directly but sticking with Squeezeplay. 


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-22 Thread ButC

Did as you suggested. Inserted an sd-card and used stock player - pop
is still there! I also tried with an Xperia Mini Pro and there's still a
pop but a little less harsh - on the other hand it's is - with the
Xperia - a popping every second while pausing the player; it's like a
rolling sound, a wheel that turns and for every turn there's a pop.
But less harsh... What I found out was that if I raised the volume in
Orange Squeeze to the maximum, then I can lower the volume on the amp
and then gets a less loud pop.



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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-22 Thread jimbobvfr400

So am I right in saying it's only when in the dock you get the pop? Does
Squeezeplayer do the same if just connected directly to the the amp, how
about if you use the input on the amp you used for a direct connection
with the dock. 

Again apologies if I'm misunderstanding what happens but it sounds like
either the dock or the amp input is the common factor so far. It could
be a faulty dock I guess. 

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-22 Thread ButC

I'm sorry, but I cannot - in any way - reproduce the non-popping. I
tried to many different ways, I believe, and I know suspect that I did
something wrong when managing to get it connected and not pop. But,
with the volume on maximum and a lower amp-volume it might not be that
huge a problem. I'll have to get back if I somehow get a non-popping
connection ;)



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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-21 Thread ButC

To be honest, I can now see that it wasn't all perfect. I have a harsh
pop everytime I start, and stop, playing a song. I don't have this
with my Touch connected to a receiver. Anyone know why I get it and what
to do?



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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-21 Thread jimbobvfr400

I don't recall that happening on mine. 

Does the same thing happen with other audio on the desire? Might be
worth loading a few tunes on a memory card and trying the stock player
to see if it's SqueezePlayer or the phone producing the noise. 

What amp are you using.  Your description of receiver reminds me of a
previous AV Receiver I owned,  if you used an input that also had an
associated digital input the receiver would try and lock on to the
digital input 1st so you'd often get a pop when it switched to the
analogue signal. The receiver concerned had some specific analogue only
inputs that didn't do that, just a thought. 

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-21 Thread ButC

Connecting the phone directly (Tuner line-in) and using stock player
doesn't produce the pop. Switching from Aux to Tuner and using Squeeze
Player still makes it pop.



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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-11 Thread ButC

Just thought I'd say that everything went great. Not a single problem.
The Desire Z in its dock almost looks like a Touch. And the sound is
more than okey. Thanks for your help...

Cash is king. By the way. ;)



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[slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-04 Thread ButC

I have a Touch and a Radio, and an old smartphone with a dock. Let's say
the Touch catches fire: Could I install Squeezeplay on the smartphone,
connect it to my stereo, and get it to sync with my radio and still use
the Squeezebox app to control both of them?



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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-04 Thread jimbobvfr400

Depends on the OS of the smartphone.

If its Android there's 2 apps available that do playback. Squeeze Player
and SB Player.
If its iOS then iPeng has an in app purchase for playback.

All of those options will work very similarly to any other player,
however certain streaming apps only work on real hardware and sync won't
be as reliable or accurate.

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-04 Thread ButC

jimbobvfr400 wrote: 
 Depends on the OS of the smartphone.
 
 If its Android there's 2 apps available that do playback. Squeeze Player
 and SB Player.
 If its iOS then iPeng has an in app purchase for playback.
 
 All of those options will work very similarly to any other player,
 however certain streaming apps only work on real hardware and sync won't
 be as reliable or accurate.
 
 Sent from my HUAWEI Y300-0100 using Tapatalk

It's Android 2.3... It's good to hear that sync is supposed to work
although not completely stable. Any of the two mentioned players that
you'd recommend?



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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-04 Thread jimbobvfr400

SB Player I believe is 4.0+ anyway. So Squeezeplayer is the one by
default.

I personally use Squeezeplayer on several different devices including an
old desire Z with 2.3 and it is brilliant, although I do sometimes sync
with other players it's not in a location where you can hear both
players at the same time so I don't know how accurate sync is.

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-04 Thread ButC

jimbobvfr400 wrote: 
 SB Player I believe is 4.0+ anyway. So Squeezeplayer is the one by
 default.
 
 I personally use Squeezeplayer on several different devices including an
 old desire Z with 2.3 and it is brilliant, although I do sometimes sync
 with other players it's not in a location where you can hear both
 players at the same time so I don't know how accurate sync is.
 
 Sent from my HUAWEI Y300-0100 using Tapatalk

It so happens that mine is a Desire Z as well. So I'll go with the
SqeezePlayer. It'll be great with the dock. Thanks for helping out :)



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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-04 Thread jimbobvfr400

ButC wrote: 
 It so happens that mine is a Desire Z as well. So I'll go with the
 SqeezePlayer. It'll be great with the dock. Thanks for helping out :)

You're welcome.

If it helps here's a market link


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bluegaspode.squeezeplayer

And also one for SB Player, which does seem to have more features and
could possibly be a better option, however I'm 99% sure it doesn't
support 2.3. I've not tried it myself because I'd already purchased
Squeezeplayer.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.angrygoat.android.sbplayer

Depending on how you plan to use Squeezeplayer I'd also suggest Orange
Squeeze as a control app on the desire Z. That way you'll have a display
and control locally. Orange Squeeze integrates squeezeplayer into the
player selection menu and offers an option to automatically start
squeeze player when it starts. Other Android control apps will require
the player app to be started manually

If you're hiding the desire away and only controlling it with other
devices then it may be wise to get squeezeplayer starting automatically
on boot. The link below will help with that.

http://www.squeezeplayer.com/2013/05/start-squeezeplayer-on-startup/

OT a bit, but IMO the Z is quite possibly the best built phone I've ever
owned, I was also a bit dubious of the hinge being a weak point but no
such problems, mine was abused and used frequently as a torch in my job
as an Electrician with no problems. I'm sure it could probably function
as a hammer its that solid. :-) 

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-04 Thread ButC

jimbobvfr400 wrote: 
 You're welcome.
 
 If it helps here's a market link
 
 
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bluegaspode.squeezeplayer
 
 And also one for SB Player, which does seem to have more features and
 could possibly be a better option, however I'm 99% sure it doesn't
 support 2.3. I've not tried it myself because I'd already purchased
 Squeezeplayer.
 
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.angrygoat.android.sbplayer
 
 Depending on how you plan to use Squeezeplayer I'd also suggest Orange
 Squeeze as a control app on the desire Z. That way you'll have a display
 and control locally. Orange Squeeze integrates squeezeplayer into the
 player selection menu and offers an option to automatically start
 squeeze player when it starts. Other Android control apps will require
 the player app to be started manually
 
 If you're hiding the desire away and only controlling it with other
 devices then it may be wise to get squeezeplayer starting automatically
 on boot. The link below will help with that.
 
 http://www.squeezeplayer.com/2013/05/start-squeezeplayer-on-startup/
 
 OT a bit, but IMO the Z is quite possibly the best built phone I've ever
 owned, I was also a bit dubious of the hinge being a weak point but no
 such problems, mine was abused and used frequently as a torch in my job
 as an Electrician with no problems. I'm sure it could probably function
 as a hammer its that solid. :-) 
 
 Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

I don't get the option of SB Player in Google Play so it most likely
doesn't support 2.3.

Yes, I'll go with Orange Squeeze in order for the automatic start and to
have a player (UI) when having the phone in the dock (bought the dock
for almost nothing just a couple of months ago, just because I had this
solution in mind and I was fearing that they would stop selling them:)
But if I go with Orange Squeeze, can I still control the Desire Z from
another phone?

On the OT: I have for years, now, plagued friends and family by saying
that I own the best phone ever made :) And I still believe that for the
money it did cost, it IS the best. Rock solid. Good camera. Great
display. And a keyboard... I just recently bought an old Desire HD
(again for almost nothing) and liked the larger display so now it's time
for the Z to serve as a Squeezebox. I don't have the slightest doubt it
won't keep doing a great job :)



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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2013-12-04 Thread jimbobvfr400

Yes to controlling it with any other method, including other SB or the
web interface. I've controlled the player on a phone with a SB Touch.

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-18 Thread Mnyb

mftech;696230 Wrote: 
 Bryston announce that they drop their CD Player production:
 http://canadahifi.com/index.php/bryston-bcd-1-cd-player-dies/
 
 I'm presently testing the Simaudio MiND, here's some details about the
 MiND:
 
 No display (headless), no physical remote, support up to 192Khz, Spdif
 Coax-Optical and AES output available, for the moment remote control is
 done via IPad, other platform and OS will be supported in the future.
 The MiND is also available as an add-on module for some of the pre-amp,
 integrated amplifier and DAC available in the Moon family.
 Remote control via Sim-Link is available, meaning that the MiND could
 be connected to a Moon pre-amplifier or integrated amplifier and the
 volume control could be accessed trough the MiND software.
 
 Simaudio had an interesting approach for synchronization between MiND
 units and zone control, they add a -time stamp- by de-embeding and
 re-embedding each file, this way they could sync perfectly in time
 different MiND players without introducing audio delay. 
 
 The MiND and the control software are still in development, when using
 the control software the album navigation is fluid and theactual
 interface is minimalist but quite friendly.
 
 For the test we used Vortexbox 2.0 as a Network Attached Software with
 various flac files mostly 44.1Khz, but also 48KHz, 88.2KHz, 96KHz.

How does it fare feature wise vs the squeeze system ? For example a
mixed playlist with you own files and spottily and other services.
How is the web radio aggregation ?
Sim is not cheap , any plans on simpler players for multi room ?


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Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc use: Radio (with battery)
iPad1 with iPengHD  SqueezePad
(in storage SB3, reciever ,controller )

http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-18 Thread mftech

Mnyb;696246 Wrote: 
 How does it fare feature wise vs the squeeze system ? For example a
 mixed playlist with you own files and spottily and other services.
 How is the web radio aggregation ?
 Sim is not cheap , any plans on simpler players for multi room ?

For radio service the MiND use vTuner Radio, as I mentioned before the
control software is still in development and for now only the MiND is
offered.


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-18 Thread Mnyb

mftech;696290 Wrote: 
 For radio service the MiND use vTuner Radio, as I mentioned before the
 control software is still in development and for now only the MiND is
 offered.

Thanks vTuner competes with recivaI think .

I don't have any vTuner enabled device ? Is it any good ?

http://www.vtuner.com/features.asp

What is good is that after a decade there seems to be more and more of
these solutions around .

Market is still immature to much proprietary stuff and bad solutions
but maybe in another decade :)

I think another essential for a squeezebox contender is MOG or Spotify
and the other services like  slacker and pandora .

I read up a bit on the mind , but no info on exact services will be
offered on the other hand the product is yet to be released, April they
say ?


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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc use: Radio (with battery)
iPad1 with iPengHD  SqueezePad
(in storage SB3, reciever ,controller )

http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-18 Thread garym

Mnyb;696295 Wrote: 
 
 
 I think another essential for a squeezebox contender is MOG or Spotify
 and the other services like  slacker and pandora .
 

Agree, many users expect and demand access to multiple music services
(MOG, spotify, siriusXM, pandora, etc.). Although I have (too much) of
my own music, I still want to have access to services and good access
to internet radio. That, and ability to synch different players (that
can be ethernet or wifi and have good DACs and ability to feed external
DAC) and control all from a smart phone/tablet are key features to me.


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Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0)  LMS 7.7.1  Touch  Benchmark
DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Office:* Win7(64)  LMS 7.7.1  SqueezePlay
Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver
Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD  SqueezePad), CONTROLLER,
or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop
Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-18 Thread toby10

Mnyb;696295 Wrote: 
 Thanks vTuner competes with recivaI think .
 
 I don't have any vTuner enabled device ? Is it any good ?

vTuner is a clunky, very basic, limited content service.  Their web
interface has not been updated since 2007 (since I first used it).  But
it is very reliable.
How that compares to Reciva I don't know as I've never used Reciva. 
But the same idea, a hardware embedded stream aggregator service.


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-17 Thread Peter314

I have just ordered three SB Touch from Logitech UK for the excellent
price of GBP 129.99 each:
http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/promotional-items/devices/7348?affid=1546795

Blemished box stock, but who cares at that price? :D


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-17 Thread zolta

it'll be interesting to see what happens in the coming months, a number
of high end (expensive) audio companies have been announcing that they
are moving into the music/internet radio space.  Simaudio is one, of
course Bryston has just released one.  These product are more expensive
than the SB but it shows that companies are jumping in.


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-17 Thread JJZolx

I'd expect to see a revamped Radio before anything else. Something that
functions a little better as a bedside clock-radio. (Why is that I have
a snooze button on my $9 alarm clock, but Logitech couldn't afford to
include one on a $180 device?) And something that could be sold at a
lower price point than the current Radio.


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-17 Thread mftech

zolta;696223 Wrote: 
 it'll be interesting to see what happens in the coming months, a number
 of high end (expensive) audio companies have been announcing that they
 are moving into the music/internet radio space.  Simaudio is one, of
 course Bryston has just released one.  These product are more expensive
 than the SB but it shows that companies are jumping in.

Bryston announce that they drop their CD Player production:
http://canadahifi.com/index.php/bryston-bcd-1-cd-player-dies/

I'm presently testing the Simaudio MiND, here's some details about the
MiND:

No display (headless), no physical remote, support up to 192Khz, Spdif
Coax-Optical and AES output available, for the moment remote control is
done via IPad, other platform and OS will be supported in the future.
The MiND is also available as an add-on module for some of the pre-amp,
integrated amplifier and DAC available in the Moon family.
Remote control via Sim-Link is available, meaning that the MiND could
be connected to a Moon pre-amplifier or integrated amplifier and the
volume control could be accessed trough the MiND software.

Simaudio had an interesting approach for synchronization between MiND
units and zone control, they add a -time stamp- by de-embeding and
re-embedding each file, this way they could sync perfectly in time
different MiND players without introducing audio delay. 
The MiND and the control software are still in development, when using
the control software the album navigation is fluid and theactual
interface is minimalist but quite friendly.

For the test we used Vortexbox 2.0 as a Network Attached Software with
various flac files mostly 44.1Khz, but also 48KHz, 88.2KHz, 96KHz.


-- 
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Tête à FLAC

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-15 Thread andynormancx

your momo;694830 Wrote: 
 Go for Touch now, this is a good pick. Every new SB annoucement get
 leaked on this forum, so I can bet there is no plan for any Touch HW
 refresh in the next six month.

Really ? I don't remember any new SB hardware announcement getting
leaked on the forum, ever.


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I SAID ALL OF THEM !

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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-15 Thread aubuti

andynormancx;695915 Wrote: 
 Really ? I don't remember any new SB hardware announcement getting
 leaked on the forum, ever.
True, the Touch wasn't originally leaked here, but certainly these
forums helped spread the leak.


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-15 Thread Soulkeeper

vinhattieu;694711 Wrote: 
 Well, I understand your argument, but the thing is the Touch has been in
 the market for a long (if not too long) time, and it would be reasonable
 to assume that Logitech is gonna introduce a new Squeezebox in a near
 future. My friend just doesn't want to buy Touch 1 today and feel
 cheated a week later when Touch  2 hits the stores.

He'll just have to gamble. Logitech never announce new products in
advance. In fact, they're pretty good at keeping it secret.

So either he buys a Touch, or he doesn't. There's really not much more
to say.


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-14 Thread zowie

If the touch suits his needs he should buy it and be happy with it. 
Just because something better hits the market doesn't make the
performance of whatever came before it any worse.  It is still the
exact same item he bought!

This is a psychological phenomenon I don't understand.  It affects
audiophiles hard, but certainly not exclusively.


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-14 Thread Mnyb

2 years is not long for this kind of product and it is upgradeable and
gets continius upgrades all the time.

Note that all old players since a decade back are supported by the
server so planned obsolescence is not a factor.


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[slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-08 Thread vinhattieu

My friend is thinking of buying a Touch, but he still hesitates because
it has been several years since Touch was released. Anybody have any
idea of a Touch 2 in the near future?


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-08 Thread garym

This reminds me of friends in the 1990s saying, computers are getting
cheaper and better every year so I'll wait to buy one later.  Taken to
the extreme, these friends would have reached 2012 never having owned a
computer. If your friend wants a high quality, inexpensive network
music player, he should get a TOUCH now. Heck, I have two extra TOUCH
players purchased on sale that I don't even use now stored as backups
should something break in my other units (and at that time in the
future, TOUCH players aren't available).

and besides, once you have a SB player, you are likely to figure out
that you need more. So if a touch2 comes out, it can be added to your
friend's system in some other use.  Heck,  I started out just wanting a
BOOM as a bedside internet radio. See my signature for SB stuff now 
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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-08 Thread vinhattieu

Well, I understand your argument, but the thing is the Touch has been in
the market for a long (if not too long) time, and it would be reasonable
to assume that Logitech is gonna introduce a new Squeezebox in a near
future. My friend just doesn't want to buy Touch 1 today and feel
cheated a week later when Touch  2 hits the stores.


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-08 Thread garym

The catch-22 here is that logitech doesn't announce future new products.
We'll just have to wait until it happens. could be next week, could be
two years.  The TOUCH is not really that old given the historic product
release pattern of SB Players.

I'm just guessing, but I'd bet on something like a BOOM II (a boom with
the display/guts of the radio/touch.  But a BoomII doesn't really take
the place of a TOUCH for use in connecting with a stereo system.


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-08 Thread your momo

Go for Touch now, this is a good pick. Every new SB annoucement get
leaked on this forum, so I can bet there is no plan for any Touch HW
refresh in the next six month. The only news is that Logitech will not
drop the ball and that next product might strongly contain speakers
...so no Touch2 yet.


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Re: [slim] Touch replacement

2012-03-08 Thread aubuti

vinhattieu;694666 Wrote: 
 My friend is thinking of buying a Touch, but he still hesitates because
 it has been several years since Touch was released.
Several years?! Try a little less than two (released April 2010, see
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_comparison).

I have strong doubts that there will be a Touch 2, so if your friend
wants the latest SB, get a Touch now.


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