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In my basement on the old ikea towers I used to keep near my CD player in the old days :) eg1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cdmackay wrote: Out of interest, do you save the rear insert from the jewel case, as well as the booklet? I do save the rear insert as well. I put all in jewelsleeeves which are sized perfectly (overpriced but work well and have cabinets that fit perfectly). http://jewelsleeve.com/ garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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thanks for that... cdmackay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I save the back insert only when it is the only place that the list of songs appears. It can be extremely frustrating to buy a CD only to open up the booklet and there's no information about what is on the CD. bomboloni's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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If I had a basement or attic, I'd store my CDs in their jewel cases on open shelving, however I live in Manhattan. With real estate at a premium, I need my 2000 CDs to take up as little space as possible in the same cabinet as the stereo. I buy the majority of my music on CDs and I do this for two main reasons; I want to rip them to FLAC, and I want to keep the disc as a backup along with the digital backup. I also like having easy access to the liner notes. The jewel cases get thrown out and I put the CDs in plastic sleeves along with the booklet. When I took on the project about three years ago, MUJI sold these great 14 storage boxes that would hold up to 400 CDs in sleeves. Unfortunately they have stopped making them, and I have not found anything that works as well. I tried the Snap-n-store boxes but I found that they are a tad too narrow. 14396 +---+ |Filename: IMG_20130131_100804_0.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14396| +---+ bomboloni's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bomboloni wrote: The jewel cases get thrown out and I put the CDs in plastic sleeves along with the booklet. Out of interest, do you save the rear insert from the jewel case, as well as the booklet? cdmackay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cdmackay wrote: Out of interest, do you save the rear insert from the jewel case, as well as the booklet? While the question was not directed to me, I have removed all CDs from their jewel cases and placed the CDs and the booklets into plastic sleeves. I only saved the rear insert when the information on the insert was different from that in the booklet, which I would guess was about 50% of the time. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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This reminds me of my BO system and what it used to look like. I got it because I wanted music in more than one room and it supports their proprietary multi-room system. It has a built-in radio, and we had a CD player, cassette player, and record player. To it we connected a large reel to reel tape drive and a Sony Megastore (CDs). It was at first all (including the LPs) stored in a large antique walnut wardrobe but then it didn't all fit... We had a lot of 8 track tapes for the car but I don't think we ever connected an 8 track tape reader to the BO. Now all of my music is online. Actually, I haven't cleaned and processed all of the LPs, but they have all been read in. I started by connecting a notebook computer to the BO and its record player, but later switched to a convenient USB record player. Of course it was easier to read in the CDs and that was quickly done. With the Squeezeboxes, I also have radio SO much better than local stations (for many years I've lived too far from the stations for good reception), podcasts, Pandora, etc etc. All in one very small box. No more records, no more tapes, no more CDs, most of the input devices long gone. And I LOVE my Android as a squeezebox controller! Judy pyewackett's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9172 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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dustinsterk wrote: Check out crashplan.com.$60 a year for unlimited backup/cloud storage. The problem with the cloud here is that I only have 3Mbs upload. It would take several months for the initial upload.. bfl banned for life's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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RonM wrote: (btw, I also archive all my recordings to small portable hard disks, and rotate in and out of a bank's safety deposit box -- including the digital downloads, as well as the ripped files. And have two local backups, which will be dead if a fire takes out my house.) This is the way to do it. I've lost count of how many portable backup drives I got (5? 6?). At least one is always off site, and another one (encrypted) is stashed in my car. I update a couple of them once a month and rotate 'em around. At some point, I'll get a terabyte of cloud storage and put a copy of everything up there too. TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TiredLegs wrote: This is the way to do it. I've lost count of how many portable backup drives I got (5? 6?). At least one is always off site, and another one (encrypted) is stashed in my car. I update a couple of them once a month and rotate 'em around. At some point, I'll get a terabyte of cloud storage and put a copy of everything up there too. Check out crashplan.com.$60 a year for unlimited backup/cloud storage. dustinsterk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19649 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Sold to the used CD store down the block for pennies on the dollar... :) Brendan bhoar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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My CDs are in storage in my basement, in boxes from Staples. The first batch (digitized when I got my Squeezeboxen) are organized alphabetically be artist, except for the classical ones which are by composer, mostly. I have since added another complete box of new CDs, organized alphabetically. I am running out of storage space for the most recent CDs, and will shortly be boxing them as well. R. (btw, I also archive all my recordings to small portable hard disks, and rotate in and out of a bank's safety deposit box -- including the digital downloads, as well as the ripped files. And have two local backups, which will be dead if a fire takes out my house.) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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zowie wrote: Aren't they a little taller? They look it from the pic. -Height - clearance is my problem in switching over from jewel cases. I have univenture safety sleeves for my cd-r's and they don't fit. Sorry, just noticed you were replying to me! They are not noticeably taller. If they are it would be at most a couple of millimetres. As height is so critical for you I will measure one tonight compared to a jewel case and repost. You could always e-mail the Jazz Loft - they were very helpful to me when I was organising import to the UK. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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amey01 wrote: Checksum is your friend...it is very simple to test a download with one of your own CDs, ripped as securely as you please. Checksum both files and see if there are any differences. True, but what's the point? I suspect few people are interested in buying FLAC downloads (or even getting free FLAC downloads) of tracks when they already have a copy of the track that they know to be accurately ripped. In the more common case of downloading tracks that you don't already have, you need something like AccurateRip or another good reason to trust the seller. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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aubuti wrote: True, but what's the point? I suspect few people are interested in buying FLAC downloads (or even getting free FLAC downloads) of tracks when they already have a copy of the track that they know to be accurately ripped. In the more common case of downloading tracks that you don't already have, you need something like AccurateRip or another good reason to trust the seller. if you have the complete downloaded FLAC album, you can use Foobar2000 to check the accuraterip match after the fact. May require a component, I can't recall if I had to install something. Right click on files, select, utilities, then verify album with accuraterip. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym wrote: if you have the complete downloaded FLAC album, you can use Foobar2000 to check the accuraterip match after the fact. May require a component, I can't recall if I had to install something. Right click on files, select, utilities, then verify album with accuraterip. Nice, I didn't know about that feature. Thanks. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym wrote: My concern about FLAC or other lossless purchases is understanding the chain of creation. I know that mp3 files purchased can have all sorts of differing codecs used (some better than other, VBR, CBR, ABR, as well as differing quality codecs to begin with, LAME vs others), and were these things ripped from a disc or created from some higher source? If the FLAC file was created from a disk rip, was it secure? etc. All this is fairly minor in most cases, and I'd be happy if I knew the FLACs were created from the studio masters in a high quality environment. But somehow I'm picturing some minimum wage guy creating the digital files without any regard for normal safeguards. Checksum is your friend...it is very simple to test a download with one of your own CDs, ripped as securely as you please. Checksum both files and see if there are any differences. amey01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11274 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;696481 Wrote: Perhaps this would be a way to help fight the Loudness War since most remasters these days sound absolutely terrible. If a remaster doesn't sound any better than an earlier version, there wouldn't be any reason to download it at all. There's an interesting technical paper about the Loudness War at www.sfxmachine.com/docs/loudnesswar/loudness_war.pdf. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;696433 Wrote: Nice but let's change things slightly: But what if I owned both the vinyl and the CD, ripped the vinyl, then sold the CD but kept the vinyl? Now I could chose to listen the vinyl but played via my Squeezebox. That is no different from just buying the CD and then selling it without ever having ripped it, which is perfectly legal. You don't own the music, you own the carrier. The point of all this legislation is to prevent people from listening to music without royalties going to the record company, musician and their representatives. In the UK in the past it was technically illegal to make a copy of an LP on cassette tape. However recently it was made legal to rip a CD for personal use on a portable player. This was a concession to the fact that one person is unlikely to want to listen to the CD and MP3 rip simultaneously. However you are (technically) in breach of this if you have a copy on your portable player AND a copy on a server to be played on a Squeezebox which could be listened to by others while you are listening to the same recording on your iPod somewhere else. Is it legal to own a ripped copy of an album having sold the original carrier? The answer in most jurisdictions is no, this is because you are essentially allowing one recording to be used by two people at the same time and (crucially) in different places with only one of them having paid a royalty. This is something that could be propagated ad infinitum if each new owner of a CD rips it and sells it on. Theoretically one CD sale, and one royalty payment to the musician, could result in numerous ripped copies of the music. In practice the buy CD, rip it, sell CD strategy is unlikely to lead you to be prosecuted unless you make a business out of it in some way. At best this strategy will just reduce the cost of ownership as few CDs, if any, will be sold at a profit. To sell a CD you would be paying for: - ebay listing - packaging - postage In the UK that lot will cost you around £2.50. The worst is that in order to guarantee a sale you would probably need to significantly under-cut the market price, otherwise a recording might not sell and you would need to re-list it at further cost. You might consider this worthwhile for a rare and expensive recording. But as decent second hand copies of most CDs can be bought for £3-£5 few would find it worth the time and aggravation. -- TheLastMan Matt http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology DS107+ (500GB) NAS running LMS 7.7.0 on SSODSmod 4.14 *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Bill Burns;696366 Wrote: But is it OK to download a pirated rip of an album if you own the vinyl? I've been pondering this very question myself. What would make sense to me (although probably not the RIAA) is: You should be able to legally download a digital version of the same physical version that you already own, i.e. a rip of the vinyl if you own the vinyl. You have in fact already paid the performer, the songwriter, etc. for their work. In that scenario, the person who did the rip is merely saving you the time of ripping it yourself. However, that download would have to be through a method that is NOT peer-to-peer file sharing, because peer-to-peer means that you'd be re-sharing it with others who do not necessarily have any rights to possess the music. If the version you download is a remaster, i.e. a different master than the one you own, payment for the work of the remastering engineer is the missing piece. As far as I know, remastering engineers do not get paid a royalty per copy, just a flat fee for doing the job. So the loss of revenue for the engineer would be indirect rather than direct, and the record company would be more reluctant to produce and offer remasters in the future. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TheLastMan;696473 Wrote: That is no different from just buying the CD and then selling it without ever having ripped it, which is perfectly legal. You don't own the music, you own the carrier. The point of all this legislation is to prevent people from listening to music without royalties going to the record company, musician and their representatives. In the UK in the past it was technically illegal to make a copy of an LP on cassette tape. However recently it was made legal to rip a CD for personal use on a portable player. This was a concession to the fact that one person is unlikely to want to listen to the CD and MP3 rip simultaneously. However you are (technically) in breach of this if you have a copy on your portable player AND a copy on a server to be played on a Squeezebox which could be listened to by others while you are listening to the same recording on your iPod somewhere else, and a third person is listening to your original CD in yet another location as well. Is it legal to own a ripped copy of an album having sold the original carrier? The answer in most jurisdictions is no, this is because you are essentially allowing one recording to be used by two people at the same time and (crucially) in different places with only one of them having paid a royalty. This is something that could be propagated ad infinitum if each new owner of a CD rips it and sells it on. Theoretically one CD sale, and one royalty payment to the musician, could result in numerous ripped copies of the music. In practice the buy CD, rip it, sell CD strategy is unlikely to lead you to be prosecuted unless you make a business out of it in some way. At best this strategy will just reduce the cost of ownership as few CDs, if any, will be sold at a profit. To sell a CD you would be paying for: - ebay listing - packaging - postage In the UK that lot will cost you around £2.50. The worst is that in order to guarantee a sale you would probably need to significantly under-cut the market price, otherwise a recording might not sell and you would need to re-list it at further cost. You might consider this worthwhile for a rare and expensive recording. But as decent second hand copies of most CDs can be bought for £3-£5 few would find it worth the time and aggravation. it may be worth the time and effort to sell a complete collection , not one disc at the time . On the other hand your not going to get much . Popular selections are available free online . Not so popular old peoples music :) is often sold whole sale when someone dies and it is often the same old chestnuts from everyone so also low in price. I sold my complete LP collection I did not get much for it , in hindsight I should have kept it even if I don't use it. I keep my CD's as collectibles -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TiredLegs;696477 Wrote: ...If the version you download is a remaster, i.e. a different master than the one you own, payment for the work of the remastering engineer is the missing piece. As far as I know, remastering engineers do not get paid a royalty per copy, just a flat fee for doing the job. So the loss of revenue for the engineer would be indirect rather than direct, and the record company would be more reluctant to produce and offer remasters in the future. Perhaps this would be a way to help fight the Loudness War since most remasters these days sound absolutely terrible. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Mnyb;696478 Wrote: Not so popular old peoples music :) is often sold whole sale when someone dies and it is often the same old chestnuts from everyone so also low in price.Chuckle :D My old chestnuts (LPs and CDs) are now mostly recorded and stored as FLACs as are my wife's CDs. Having completed that project my wife now wants her LPs in digital format. However she didn't look after her LPs as well as I did mine, to put it mildly! They are in invariably appalling condition - totally unrecordable. It looks like after using them to eat her dinner off she the cleaned them with sandpaper. So I have no choice but to replace with CDs or downloads. As they are also old people's chestnuts too, I could probably download them all free if I wanted to. However I am a law abiding citizen and will probably just pick them up as second hand CDs where I can. -- TheLastMan Matt http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology DS107+ (500GB) NAS running LMS 7.7.0 on SSODSmod 4.14 *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;696433 Wrote: Nice but let's change things slightly: But what if I owned both the vinyl and the CD, ripped the vinyl, then sold the CD but kept the vinyl? Now I could chose to listen the vinyl but played via my Squeezebox. That's definitely a closer call. My feeling is no, but it's not as strong a feeling. Because they CD and LP version are not really the same. If you told me you sold the vinyl, or had two copies on CD and sold one, I'd say that's fine. I'm speaking to the ethics of the situation (as I perceive them), not the law. -- zowie zowie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54909 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TheLastMan;696529 Wrote: Chuckle :D My old chestnuts (LPs and CDs) are now mostly recorded and stored as FLACs as are my wife's CDs. Having completed that project my wife now wants her LPs in digital format. However she didn't look after her LPs as well as I did mine, to put it mildly! They are in invariably appalling condition - totally unrecordable. It looks like after using them to eat her dinner off she the cleaned them with sandpaper. So I have no choice but to replace with CDs or downloads. As they are also old people's chestnuts too, I could probably download them all free if I wanted to. However I am a law abiding citizen and will probably just pick them up as second hand CDs where I can. Yea the guy I sold my LP's to had a business on hobby level he had about 10ki of vinyl in his garage (he brother had areal record store somewhere else where it all went eventually ) . So apparently every one has bette midler the rose some rod stewart ABBA (ar least in sweden ) private dancer with Tina Turner and some Swedish stuff that every one had . He basically had a list in his head of 30-40 LP he always find when buying a collection :) . But this modern times have loosened up what is old or hot and who's actually buying it . I mean 20 years ago you could probably guess some ones age within 5 years from looking at 50 of his LP's . The backlog of recorded music has increased exponentially and music industry is dying they say I have never in my life had so much to choose from -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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what's quite surprising about this thread is that it's still going! Rip your library. Backup up the digital library to a second hard drive and sell off the discs. done. -- exile exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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When I first started on the squeezebox journey I ripped to wma lossless before sometime later converting the 300 or so files to FLAC. Something stops me selling the CDS. maybe one day I will rip again to FLAC straight off, this would be though a dull thing to do maybe and a bit OCD in nature? -- wonder boy 2 Booms, 1 radio, a touch and an SB3...think that's enough? wonder boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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exile;696340 Wrote: Backup up the digital library to a second hard drive and sell off the discs. done. There is a body of opinion that says legally you should have physical media of any files you have (and haven't purchased as digital files). I'm not criticising, just commenting as I am thinking of doing the same. -- Mushroom_3 Mushroom_3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13434 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Mushroom_3;696344 Wrote: There is a body of opinion that says legally you should have physical media of any files you have (and haven't purchased as digital files). I'm not criticising, just commenting as I am thinking of doing the same. correct, in some jurisdictions, it is illegal to possess the digital copy if you no longer own the CD/Vinyl album. But I don't keep my CDs for that reason. I keep them just because I like having them. I still have the first album I ever owned from the early 1960s. I'm OCD in that way -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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On 3/18/2012 1:56 PM, garym wrote: Mushroom_3;696344 Wrote: There is a body of opinion that says legally you should have physical media of any files you have (and haven't purchased as digital files). I'm not criticising, just commenting as I am thinking of doing the same. correct, in some jurisdictions, it is illegal to possess the digital copy if you no longer own the CD/Vinyl album. But I don't keep my CDs for that reason. I keep them just because I like having them. I still have the first album I ever owned from the early 1960s. I'm OCD in that way Same here. But is it OK to download a pirated rip of an album if you own the vinyl? -- Bill ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Bill Burns;696366 Wrote: On 3/18/2012 1:56 PM, garym wrote: Mushroom_3;696344 Wrote: There is a body of opinion that says legally you should have physical media of any files you have (and haven't purchased as digital files). I'm not criticising, just commenting as I am thinking of doing the same. correct, in some jurisdictions, it is illegal to possess the digital copy if you no longer own the CD/Vinyl album. But I don't keep my CDs for that reason. I keep them just because I like having them. I still have the first album I ever owned from the early 1960s. I'm OCD in that way Same here. But is it OK to download a pirated rip of an album if you own the vinyl? -- Bill No you have to buy the LP, 8 track, cassette, CD, remastered CD, 180 gram LP, mp3 download, flac download, hi rez download, DVD-Audio, SACD and each and every format that is, was and will be available. According to the RIAA you NEVER own the music. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Bill Burns;696366 Wrote: On 3/18/2012 1:56 PM, garym wrote: Mushroom_3;696344 Wrote: There is a body of opinion that says legally you should have physical media of any files you have (and haven't purchased as digital files). I'm not criticising, just commenting as I am thinking of doing the same. correct, in some jurisdictions, it is illegal to possess the digital copy if you no longer own the CD/Vinyl album. But I don't keep my CDs for that reason. I keep them just because I like having them. I still have the first album I ever owned from the early 1960s. I'm OCD in that way Same here. But is it OK to download a pirated rip of an album if you own the vinyl? -- Bill I seriously doubt it, but I'm not an attorney. -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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The rule of law normally comes into play when you offer the music for sale or use it in a public forum I.E. Youtube and other open forum sites. No one to my knowledge has been track down by the feds or industry for just downloading or having large amount of ripped music, most of the ones that you heard about were also sharing the files on peer to peer (Napster, Limewire...) systems. -- Recoveryone Slim Device Transporter wirelessly connected Pioneer Elite VSX-81TX Optimus LS3's 2nd SqueezeBox 3 Wirelessly connected (Bedroom) Pioneer VSX 520K Optimus LX5's 3rd SqueezeBox 3 Wirelessly connected (MediaRoom) Pioneer VSX 510 Optimus LX5's 4th Squeezebox 3 Wirelessly connected (livingroom) Integra ADM 2.1 Teac MKII EQ Fluance SX Server (In garage) running on P4 3.0 GHz 2 gig ram Windows XP (Sp3) 350 Xternal gigHD Verizon Fios wireless router w/HG antana Recoveryone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Recoveryone;696381 Wrote: The rule of law normally comes into play when you offer the music for sale or use it in a public forum I.E. Youtube and other open forum sites. No one to my knowledge has been track down by the feds or industry for just downloading or having large amount of ripped music, most of the ones that you heard about were also sharing the files on peer to peer (Napster, Limewire...) systems. Absolutely correct (at least in USA). While the downloading of copyrighted material without permission or payment is technically illegal it is only for the sharing and uploading of copyrighted material that people are being tracked down. It is more a matter of limited law enforcement resources (or more correctly the lack of unlimited law enforcement resources) than one of right and wrong that is causing the present situation. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I gave some to a friend and all the rest to my brother. Since I can't buy any music in Flac format I download what I want. First I paid 25 guilders for a LP, than I paid 40 guilders to get that same LP in Cd format and now I just stopped supporting them. (funny enough downloading music isn't illegal (yet) in this country) -- jp73 jp73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34285 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jp73;696400 Wrote: (funny enough downloading music isn't illegal (yet) in this country) You may need to qualify that statement. Downloading from a legally approved site, which means you purchased the download. which covers the rules of the industry and Federal/International laws covering the distrubition of recorded media. -- Recoveryone Slim Device Transporter wirelessly connected Pioneer Elite VSX-81TX Optimus LS3's 2nd SqueezeBox 3 Wirelessly connected (Bedroom) Pioneer VSX 520K Optimus LX5's 3rd SqueezeBox 3 Wirelessly connected (MediaRoom) Pioneer VSX 510 Optimus LX5's 4th Squeezebox 3 Wirelessly connected (livingroom) Integra ADM 2.1 Teac MKII EQ Fluance SX Server (In garage) running on P4 3.0 GHz 2 gig ram Windows XP (Sp3) 350 Xternal gigHD Verizon Fios wireless router w/HG antana Recoveryone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;696373 Wrote: No you have to buy the LP, 8 track, cassette, CD, remastered CD, 180 gram LP, mp3 download, flac download, hi rez download, DVD-Audio, SACD and each and every format that is, was and will be available. According to the RIAA you NEVER own the music. That's really not the point. You (whoever) bought the CD for the value of its content, not because you wanted a shiny round ornament. Then you retained the content, while also resellng it to someone else. It should be pretty obvious that's not ethical. -- zowie zowie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54909 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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On 3/18/2012 9:48 PM, zowie wrote: You (whoever) bought the CD for the value of its content, not because you wanted a shiny round ornament. Then you retained the content, while also resellng it to someone else. It should be pretty obvious that's not ethical. Agreed. But what if I owned both the vinyl and the CD, ripped the CD then sold it, and kept the vinyl? -- Bill ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Bill Burns;696423 Wrote: On 3/18/2012 9:48 PM, zowie wrote: You (whoever) bought the CD for the value of its content, not because you wanted a shiny round ornament. Then you retained the content, while also resellng it to someone else. It should be pretty obvious that's not ethical. Agreed. But what if I owned both the vinyl and the CD, ripped the CD then sold it, and kept the vinyl? -- Bill Nice but let's change things slightly: But what if I owned both the vinyl and the CD, ripped the vinyl, then sold the CD but kept the vinyl? Now I could chose to listen the vinyl but played via my Squeezebox. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym;695990 Wrote: Up to a point I agree with you. Over the years my wife and I have downsized (on purpose) to smaller and smaller houses. My current house is 1/4 the size of our home 25 year ago (tiny house in my town, but would be a decent sized apartment in NYC). And I have, not exactly sure, 10,000 or so CDs. Going to jewel cases saved me a TON of space. And I can still walk into a room, open a cabinet drawer and access the CDs with full inserts quickly. (And notice I would never get rid of the CDs, even if I hope to never NEED to see them again). I agree, not everybody has room for huge CD racks. In London houses are rather smaller than in most places in the US. Our last house had a single living room 21'x11', kitchen, two bedrooms and a bathroom, tiny back yard. Not cheap either, a friend has just bought a similar house in the same street for £700,000 ($1,000,000). The small living room was dominated by shelves for CDs, books and LPs making the room seem even smaller and more cluttered. In our (rather larger) new house, the squeezeboxes have enabled us to do away with CD and LP storage taking up valuable living space. The CDs are still quickly accessible in the small study in the loft if I need them. I have put them into sleeves and then small boxes like these: [image: http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p623/Oefinell/Leitz.jpg] 8 altogether which take up almost no space on our study shelves. -- TheLastMan Matt http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology DS107+ (500GB) NAS running LMS 7.7.0 on SSODSmod 4.14 *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I see myself having to go the same route as others here. I like having a wall of CD's, and I currently have the space for them. But the future has children in it, and my living space will get small. Storing them all away will become important. Unfortunately, the attic option is unrealistic in my climate. Temperatures up there can reach 120F(50C), and I don't want to trust the durability of my CD's in that environment. The only other gripe I have is that with the change in CD package leaning towards the cardboard direction, I am noticing more and more CD's that are package in non-standard sizes. I like the idea presented in earlier posts with respect to jewel sleeves or the jazzloft solution. Digipack type sets, I'd love to just leave as is; they are already slim. However, what to do when the digipack discs don't fit. I'm not looking for anwers here. It's just a minor complaint I have. They don't fit on my wall shelf as it is. -- emalvick emalvick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35382 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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zowie;695834 Wrote: I'm satisfied to put most of my cds away in the attic in their jewel cases after they've been ripped. That saves even more living space than bagging them. (More accurately, creates more space for vinyl.) Plus, (a) I don't think most bags fit in my racks and (b) almost none of the bags hold the back card. But I'm not sure that I want to be without the inserts, especially for box sets with deluxe books. And I'm also not sure I want to separate the cds from their inserts because of the difficulty of reuniting them. This is presently a conundrum. Thoughts? I put my cds in the attic in their Jazz Loft sleeves (in boxes), which saves space in the loft as well as the racks. On your other questions, a) The Jazz Loft sleeves take up less room than a standard CD case so will fit in your racks. b) The Jazz Loft sleeves are a gate-fold design so take the back card and CD in the right half and the insert in the left. The only thing discarded is the plastic case. For deluxe box sets with books I just keep the CDs in their original packaging. I only use the Jazz Loft sleeves to replace standard CD jewel cases. I would not separate the CD from its insert either so leave both together in the loft. I find myself referring to the web when I need information on a recording these days. Usually a lot more informative than the sleeve notes. -- TheLastMan Matt http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology DS107+ (500GB) NAS running LMS 7.7.0 on SSODSmod 4.14 *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TheLastMan;695899 Wrote: I put my cds in the attic in their Jazz Loft sleeves (in boxes), which saves space in the loft as well as the racks. On your other questions: a) The Jazz Loft sleeves take up less room than a standard CD case so will fit in your racks. What is more the spine piece of the back card with the CD title information shows when in a rack in the same way as with a CD jewel case, so you can read what the CD is without pulling the sleeve out of the rack. b) The Jazz Loft sleeves are a gate-fold design so take the back card and CD in the right half and the insert in the left. The only thing discarded is the plastic case. For deluxe box sets with books I just keep the CDs in their original packaging. I only use the Jazz Loft sleeves to replace standard CD jewel cases. I would not separate the CD from its insert either so leave both together in the loft. I find myself referring to the web when I need information on a recording these days. Usually a lot more informative than the sleeve notes. [EDIT] Product web page: http://www.jazzloft.com/p-34281-space-saving-cd-sleeves.aspx similarly, I use jewel sleeve cases, and these contain CDs, front and back inserts, booklets, etc. Only thing gone is the plastic jewel case. I have in either special file cabinets or trunks (designed to hold the jewel sleeves) in my home's utility room. This saved LOTS of space for me. And frankly, once ripped, booklet read, etc. I never want to see the actual CD again. As mentioned, I can find lots of info about each album on the internet and only rarely have looked back at booklet. Although they are well organized and I certainly can pull them out easily. -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I've been noticing that more and more CDs these days (70%? 80%?) are coming in digipaks instead of jewel boxes. So it makes the Jazzloft sleeves a little less of a slam dunk in terms of shelf space, since I don't get to use them as much for new material (and I can't easily buy FLAC files for most of my music, which is the only real alternative I'll accept). --Mike -- mrfantasy --Mike http://last.fm/user/mrfantasy mrfantasy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1127 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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mrfantasy;695934 Wrote: I've been noticing that more and more CDs these days (70%? 80%?) are coming in digipaks instead of jewel boxes. So it makes the Jazzloft sleeves a little less of a slam dunk in terms of shelf space, since I don't get to use them as much for new material (and I can't easily buy FLAC files for most of my music, which is the only real alternative I'll accept). --Mike good point. I just stick the entire digipak in my cabinet with the jewel sleeves, but I don't get quite as much space savings. -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Sandwich-sized ziplock bags - much cheaper. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I find that they make an excellent snowshoe prop. +---+ |Filename: CDs.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13186| +---+ -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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personally, i like the full CD, in its case, stored on the wall. to me, saying that you are reclaiming that space is like saying its time to throw books away b/c u have them on a kindle. i like a bookshelf with books on it, and i like cd shelves with CDs on it. call me old fashioned. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 droid (my home) / duet ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.7.2b - win7 ie9 xp pro sp3 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 55k+ mp3/flac ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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MrSinatra;695987 Wrote: personally, i like the full CD, in its case, stored on the wall. to me, saying that you are reclaiming that space is like saying its time to throw books away b/c u have them on a kindle. i like a bookshelf with books on it, and i like cd shelves with CDs on it. call me old fashioned. Up to a point I agree with you. Over the years my wife and I have downsized (on purpose) to smaller and smaller houses. My current house is 1/4 the size of our home 25 year ago. And I have, not exactly sure, 10,000 or so CDs. Going to jewel cases saved me a TON of space. And I can still walk into a room, open a cabinet drawer and access the CDs with full inserts quickly. (And notice I would never get rid of the CDs, even if I hope to never NEED to see them again). -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym;610306 Wrote: My concern about FLAC or other lossless purchases is understanding the chain of creation. I know that mp3 files purchased can have all sorts of differing codecs used (some better than other, VBR, CBR, ABR, as well as differing quality codecs to begin with, LAME vs others), and were these things ripped from a disc or created from some higher source? If the FLAC file was created from a disk rip, was it secure? etc. All this is fairly minor in most cases, and I'd be happy if I knew the FLACs were created from the studio masters in a high quality environment. But somehow I'm picturing some minimum wage guy creating the digital files without any regard for normal safeguards. As long as you can preview and hear if the quality is acceptable, you've got all you need to purchase. And in fact more than you get with cds or vinyl. -- zowie zowie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54909 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;609048 Wrote: Actually in the early days of CDs I took a completely different approach. I went out and bought myself a very nice turntable (a used Linn LP12) and while all my friends were busy replacing their vinyl collections with little silver discs I only bought CDs of new material. The LPs sounded great then and still sound great today. The funny thing is with the advent of streaming music and digital downloads the days of the CD are clearly numbered and yet there is no replacement for good old vinyl. In other words, long after CDs are replaced by digital files vinyl will live on. Me too! I added tremendously to my vinyl collection at very low cost in the early 90s. Now I am doing the same with CDs, een if I'm going to rip them and store them away, because I am getting full albums on CD for less than the price of a single mp3 track. -- zowie zowie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54909 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TheLastMan;601957 Wrote: The Jazzloft sleeves are brilliant, cannot recommend them too highly. Well worth the cost of importing them from US. I access them mainly to refer to the CD booklets. To me the main problem with digital music is the lack of sleeve notes and lyrics. If the record companies are as short of cash as they say they are, they could sell PDF copies of the CD booklets. If they were cheap enough they would sell lots and people would probably not bother to pirate them. I'm satisfied to put most of my cds away in the attic in their jewel cases after they've been ripped. That saves even more living space than bagging them. (More accurately, creates more space for vinyl.) Plus, (a) I don't think most bags fit in my racks and (b) almost none of the bags hold the back card. But I'm not sure that I want to be without the inserts, especially for box sets with deluxe books. And I'm also not sure I want to separate the cds from their inserts because of the difficulty of reuniting them. This is presently a conundrum. Thoughts? -- zowie zowie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54909 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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The transition from jewel cases is 90% complete. '[image: http://zzzone.net/files/bag1s.jpg]' (http://zzzone.net/files/bag1.jpg) '[image: http://zzzone.net/files/bag2s.jpg]' (http://zzzone.net/files/bag2.jpg) '[image: http://zzzone.net/files/bag3s.jpg]' (http://zzzone.net/files/bag3.jpg) I have reclaimed VAST areas of storage. And a lucky camper or two has gotten some great deals on thousands of slightly used jewel cases. Win - win :) -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Cisco E4200 Server: SBS 7.6.1 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng for iPad SqueezePad, Nexus S phone w/Logitech controller app 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 112,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimzak;657008 Wrote: The transition from jewel cases is 90% complete. I have reclaimed VAST areas of storage. And a lucky camper or two has gotten some great deals on thousands of slightly used jewel cases. Win - win :) By the looks of the photos it would appear that these are before pictures, or at least work in progress photos. Could you please post some after photos as well. Thanks! -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;657015 Wrote: By the looks of the photos it would appear that these are before pictures, or at least work in progress photos. Could you please post some after photos as well. Thanks! These pictures ARE AFTER the bagging process. Notice the empty shelves and shelves with bags. The before picture is located in my signature. The CDs that have not been bagged are in digipacks or other forms of unique packaging. -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Cisco E4200 Server: SBS 7.6.1 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng for iPad SqueezePad, Nexus S phone w/Logitech controller app 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 113,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimzak;657053 Wrote: These pictures ARE AFTER the bagging process. Notice the empty shelves and shelves with bags. The before picture is located in my signature. The CDs that have not been bagged are in digipacks or other forms of unique packaging. Got it however due the small picture size it's a little difficult to make things out clearly. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;657057 Wrote: Got it however due the small picture size it's a little difficult to make things out clearly. Did you click on the pictures to see the larger versions? :) -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Cisco E4200 Server: SBS 7.6.1 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, iPad1, iPad2, Nexus S smartphone, Transformer Eee tablet Apps: iPeng for iPad, SqueezePad, Logitech Squeezebox app 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 113,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimzak;657059 Wrote: Did you click on the pictures to see the larger versions? :) Oops! That's much better and now I fully understand. Great job. Although I have a quite a bit less CDs than you (just under 3k) after I finished replacing the jewel cases with thin plastic sleeves I still managed to reclaim plenty of shelf space. It's a big job but one that offers ample rewards at the finish. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I've gotten a couple of thousand done: [image: http://zzzone.net/files/bags-cases.jpg] -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT54GL Server: SBS 7.5.3 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng for iPad SqueezePad 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 77,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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call me crazy, but i got rid of my cd's as soon as they were all ripped. The last thing i want around the house is a giant pile of cd's. also, I haven't purchased a cd for two to three years. there just isn't anything more convenient than the world of online music purchases. the sacrifice of course is the lack of lossless quality but I don't listen to my music in a pristine listening room- i listen to it in real world places like my kitchen, living room, car and ipod so pristine sound is a non-issue for me. my advice-sell off the cd collection to a music store and use the money for something fun. -- exile exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimzak;621047 Wrote: I've gotten a couple of thousand done. Jim, everything looks great so far. Do you find that you're saving a lot of space? When I finished the transfer from jewel cases to plastic sleeves I found that the CDs in the plastic sleeves took up much less space. I would estimate that the shelf/rack space for my entire CD collection, which includes CDs in plastic sleeves, in cardboard digipacks, other nonstandard cases and boxed sets, now takes between 1/2 and 1/3 of what it used to take. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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As I mentioned above, the ratio of a jewel case space taken to that taken by a bag+disc+insert is about 4:1. As a result I have reclaimed vast amounts of space. VAST. -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT54GL Server: SBS 7.5.3 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng for iPad SqueezePad 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 82,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Here's a before and after shot...after is on the top row and before is on the lower row. http://zzzone.net/photo/2011/future.jpg I've put about 500 CDs in bags. I have an additional 4000 bags on order. BagsUnlimited is probably very happy with me. -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT54GL Server: SBS 7.5.2 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng for iPad SqueezePad 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 72,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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eq72521;561179 Wrote: I'd probably stop buying them altogether if FLAC was offered as a purchasable option. When is that going to happen, I mean seriously mr. music industry, it's way overdue. -- Archer_11 Archer_11's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Archer_11;610257 Wrote: When is that going to happen, I mean seriously mr. music industry, it's way overdue. It is happening already. But it's a pretty small part of the market, and not the big labels. I bet it will remain that way for some time because most buyers are happy with lossy AAC and MP3. And the labels will follow the money. Many small online sellers distribute both lossy and lossless, and charge a premium for lossless. There's no reason the big guys can't do that, but it seems they just can't be bothered to offer lossless because the extra $$ isn't worth the extra hassle to them. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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aubuti;610304 Wrote: It is happening already. But it's a pretty small part of the market, and not the big labels. I bet it will remain that way for some time because most buyers are happy with lossy AAC and MP3. And the labels will follow the money. Many small online sellers distribute both lossy and lossless, and charge a premium for lossless. There's no reason the big guys can't do that, but it seems they just can't be bothered to offer lossless because the extra $$ isn't worth the extra hassle to them. My concern about FLAC or other lossless purchases is understanding the chain of creation. I know that mp3 files purchased can have all sorts of differing codecs used (some better than other, VBR, CBR, ABR, as well as differing quality codecs to begin with, LAME vs others), and were these things ripped from a disc or created from some higher source? If the FLAC file was created from a disk rip, was it secure? etc. All this is fairly minor in most cases, and I'd be happy if I knew the FLACs were created from the studio masters in a high quality environment. But somehow I'm picturing some minimum wage guy creating the digital files without any regard for normal safeguards. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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All perfectly valid concerns in my view. Most of my FLAC purchases have been from artists' own sites, where I hope their enlightened self-interest is enough for quality control. Someone selling FLACs (or even lossy codecs) would have an advantage if they could prove the tracks' pedigree, such as using the checksum or the AR database. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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aubuti;610304 Wrote: It is happening already. But it's a pretty small part of the market, and not the big labels. I bet it will remain that way for some time because most buyers are happy with lossy AAC and MP3. And the labels will follow the money. The irony is that cd quality is readily available today on physical media, yet tomorrow cd quality in a lossless format will likely become known as an audiophile format with audiophile levels of quality. I listen to a good amount of electronic music that is on european independent labels. Thankfully much of it is now available in lossless downloads, saving me a lot of money in shipping. I hope this trend continues. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,696 songs, 2,720 albums, 499 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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maggior;609041 Wrote: My wife wishes I would do this since I got a Kindle for Christmas. The problem is that there are a significant number of books that I have that are not available in eBook format. It reminds me of when CDs first came out - remember that period in the late 80's/early 90's where you anxiously anticipated albums becoming available on CD for the first time? This is off topic, but I love reading on my Kindle. I may never buy a print book again (for novels at least). It's to books what the Squeezebox is to music. I got a Kobo for Christmas, which is a very nice, albeit limited, device. Unlike the Kindle, supports checking out ebooks from the library (ePub format with Adobe DRM). Good battery life, works very well. Doesn't really work very well, though, with combination of text and illustrations. Am reading a book now (Life Ascending by Nick Lane, a prize-winning popular science book), and it occasionally refers to an illustration, presumably one incorporated in the text at that point. This is not the case in the ePub format, suspect it's not the case in the Kindle's proprietary format either -- would be in the PDF versions, but then you wouldn't get the text flow options. Nice if they would get that fixed. On vacation at the moment, and I've been reading quite voraciously. The Kobo is great for this, very good resolution, easy to read and weighs almost nothing. However, I do like a really nice well-produced book. For the innumerable fiction-reads I go through, an eReader makes perfect sense. Less so for situations where the book itself (combination of content and production) is a beautiful work of art. As to storing my CDs, we have enough space I can store the boxes (and boxes and boxes) in the basement. However, new acquisition CDs (since I got the SB have taken over the old space where current CDs cluttered things up. Time for another box or two. Ron -- RonM RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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carib;609804 Wrote: Just out of curiosity... do you have an estimated time of completion? No idea. I'm going to rip to FLAC as I change over to bags. Likely it will take 3-5 years as I also work 60+ hours per week to pay for all this stuff :) -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT54GL Server: SBS 7.5.2 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng for iPad SqueezePad 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 72,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Best of luck Jimzak and Happy Ripping...but, wow, 60+ workweek leaves little time to enjoy all those goodies. I bet you have music with you most of the time anyway. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;609029 Wrote: Quick question: what are you planning to do with the empty jewel cases? Kept about 20 and threw the rest (300+) in the trash (about 1/4 were chipped or damaged anyway). I checked with the waste authority and they cannot recycle them because they are the wrong kind of plastic (shame!). and they are only about 30p each so you would have to be pretty poor not to be able to afford to buy them new. Even the intact ones looked pretty tatty unless absolutely brand new. -- TheLastMan Matt http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology DS107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.3 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Another idea for those unwanted CD cases, ask your local library if they might like them. Library CD's and their cases get pretty beat up as they are checked out, moved, returned, etc.. over and over. I blame those d*#n kids! (even though I sat on a library CD myself in the library parking lot, but that's besides the point!) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimzak;609005 Wrote: I started the LONG transition to poly bags for all my CDs in jewel cases yesterday. The space to store CDs in jewel cases drops to 25% of what it was when I use these 2 pocket bags: http://www.bagsunlimited.com/p-3301-double-pocket-cd-sleeve-with-white-poly-separator-1-resealable-flap.aspx [for some reason Bags Unlimited website is very unreliable] I should be able to reclaim a lot of space as I continue to rip everything into my music server. Just out of curiosity... do you have an estimated time of completion? -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;609048 Wrote: Actually in the early days of CDs I took a completely different approach. I went out and bought myself a very nice turntable (a used Linn LP12) and while all my friends were busy replacing their vinyl collections with little silver discs I only bought CDs of new material. Me too! In the mid 1990's the record shops were selling off the last of their LP stock. I remember picking up 10 LPs from HMV, all ones I actually wanted, for £1.50 each. The same thing seems to be happening now with CDs. I just picked up three U2 CDs (October, Pop and How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb) from a clearance sale at HMV in Oxford Street at £3 each. Their CD stock is thinning out alarmingly - I have had difficulty buying a lot of back-catalogue items recently and taken to e-bay to find those older recordings. The LPs sounded great then and still sound great today.You should try recording some of them onto digital files. You get the best of both worlds then. I have recorded 300 LPs to FLAC so far, about half of my collection, many of which are not available either on CD or digital. The funny thing is with the advent of streaming music and digital downloads the days of the CD are clearly numbered and yet there is no replacement for good old vinyl. In other words, long after CDs are replaced by digital files vinyl will live on. I am not sure what you are getting at here. CD replaced LP, yet there are still many of us stalwarts out here enjoying our LP collections. I am sure that when CD finally gets replaced by digital files there will be plenty of old fogies out there enjoying their CD collection in the same way as I enjoy my LP collection. LPs were the recording medium of *my* youth so I have a nostalgia for slipping the LP from its sleeve and dropping the needle in the groove - hearing that crackly lead in give way to music. I am sure many of those brought up with CD will get the same kick from flipping the disk out of its jewel case and watching the disk tray slide home. By the same token ebooks may well replace the novel but may never replace those large format glossy photo books aka coffee table books. You are right, but I think books generally are more of a technological challenge than LPs and CDs. CDs only have music on them (in most cases) so you can fit *any* music into a digital file. However books come in all shapes and sizes and often contain a complex mixture of text, photos and graphics. I think the novel translates neatly to the Kindle, but a travel guide? Or a medical text book? Graphic novel? Pop-up children's book? Try putting Where's Wally on a Kindle! One day we may get fold-out reading devices up to A3 size with full colour reflective screens with a true white background that can do 600dpi photos or line art with no backlight and with a 2 week battery life (don't hold your breath!). But until then there is little threat to a large proportion of books. -- TheLastMan Matt http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology DS107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.3 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;609029 Wrote: Quick question: what are you planning to do with the empty jewel cases? Offer them for free on Craig's List or FreeCycle.org. Some local musician or student might want them for whatever reason. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimzak;584358 Wrote: Check my signature. My CDs are in the Media Library. I started the LONG transition to poly bags for all my CDs in jewel cases yesterday. The space to store CDs in jewel cases drops to 25% of what it was when I use these 2 pocket bags: http://www.bagsunlimited.com/p-3301-double-pocket-cd-sleeve-with-white-poly-separator-1-resealable-flap.aspx [for some reason Bags Unlimited website is very unreliable] I should be able to reclaim a lot of space as I continue to rip everything into my music server. -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT54GL Server: SBS 7.5.2 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng for iPad SqueezePad 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 71,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimzak;609005 Wrote: I started the LONG transition to poly bags for all my CDs in jewel cases yesterday. The space to store CDs in jewel cases drops to 25% of what it was when I use these 2 pocket bags: http://www.bagsunlimited.com/p-3301-double-pocket-cd-sleeve-with-white-poly-separator-1-resealable-flap.aspx [for some reason Bags Unlimited website is very unreliable] I should be able to reclaim a lot of space as I continue to rip everything into my music server. Quick question: what are you planning to do with the empty jewel cases? I filled up at least 25 grocery bags with the empty jewel cases and placed them out with the household trash. Luckily the garbage collection service in my town did not seem to object and happily took them all away. Please keep us posted on your progress. I'm looking forward to seeing the before and after pictures. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphpnj;608840 Wrote: Now if I could convince my wife to get an ebook reader and get rid of the print books :) My wife wishes I would do this since I got a Kindle for Christmas. The problem is that there are a significant number of books that I have that are not available in eBook format. It reminds me of when CDs first came out - remember that period in the late 80's/early 90's where you anxiously anticipated albums becoming available on CD for the first time? This is off topic, but I love reading on my Kindle. I may never buy a print book again (for novels at least). It's to books what the Squeezebox is to music. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,696 songs, 2,720 albums, 499 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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maggior;609041 Wrote: My wife wishes I would do this since I got a Kindle for Christmas. The problem is that there are a significant number of books that I have that are not available in eBook format. It reminds me of when CDs first came out - remember that period in the late 80's/early 90's where you anxiously anticipated albums becoming available on CD for the first time? Actually in the early days of CDs I took a completely different approach. I went out and bought myself a very nice turntable (a used Linn LP12) and while all my friends were busy replacing their vinyl collections with little silver discs I only bought CDs of new material. The LPs sounded great then and still sound great today. The funny thing is with the advent of streaming music and digital downloads the days of the CD are clearly numbered and yet there is no replacement for good old vinyl. In other words, long after CDs are replaced by digital files vinyl will live on. By the same token ebooks may well replace the novel but may never replace those large format glossy photo books aka coffee table books. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I know that I'm a little late to the party but better late than never. I just finished putting all of my CDs (the one's originally in plastic jewel cases) into polyethylene plastic sleeves with flaps. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UHEFX6/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8me=seller=) The sleeves are fairly well made and the price was right at about 3.3 cents (US) each. I needed just under 3,000 (2,850) sleeves. What I did was place the CD and the booklet together into one sleeve, with or without the tray insert (the piece of paper that is located below the plastic CD holder). All CDs were inserted with the label side facing the plastic and the data side resting against the paper booklet. If the tray insert contained information that was not in the booklet then I removed the insert, folded it in half and placed in the sleeve. For double CDs sets I placed the booklet and both CDs along with the folded tray insert between the CDs. For three and four CD sets I used two sleeves. All boxed sets not in plastic cases and all CDs in cardboard digipak cases where left in the original cases. I then placed all the CDs (the ones on in plastic sleeves, the ones in cardboard cases and the smaller box sets) back onto storage racks. As stated by Zoltan in the quote below, while it is not possible to read the spine of the CDs in the plastic sleeves I can still find the approximate location of any CD by reading the spines of the cardboard cases. When I was all finished I managed to fit my entire collection of over 3,000 CDs onto three racks which originally held approximately 1,100 CDs. I now have relatively easy access to any CD should I care to read the booklet or have a need to re-rip the CD. I also now have room for more book cases. Now if I could convince my wife to get an ebook reader and get rid of the print books :) Zoltan;561941 Wrote: I noticed someone mentioned the JewelSleeve approach earlier. I used something similar from www.jazzloft.com with great success. I'm pretty sure I looked into JewelSleeve at the time and am guessing it was the cost that decided it. The sleeves from Jazz Loft are 15 cents, or 7.50 USD for 50, whereas they are 24 USD from JewelSleeve. I don't know if there is any technical difference between them but the Jazz Loft ones are good enough for me. BTW, the sleeves don't look like much in their unfilled form but once the CD and inserts are in they seem a bit more substantial - it becomes a bit like a mini gatefold LP. The main disadvantage of them is that you can't easily read the spine. This isn't much of a problem for me as I have enough CDs that are in non-standard boxes etc., interspersed with the sleeved ones, that I can quickly get to the right ballpark if I need to (which is rare in any case these days). -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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peterw;601675 Wrote: Great, thank you for the update. Now I just need to see if my wife will accept mylar for her discs or if she'll want the more familiar book-like jazzloft cases. I guess I'll get some Sleevetown for mine show her... again, thank you for the suggestion status report! The mylar sleeves are perfect for -storing- CDs, but I'm not sure I would recommend them if your wife would be accessing the discs inside them every time she wants to listen to music. It's definitely not as easy as jewel cases to get the discs in and out of them, and it's not as easy to just browse the titles on a shelf. I think the Jazzloft cases would be better in those respects. If price were no object, I would have bought the Jazzloft ones, but the mylar sleeves are so much less money. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TiredLegs;601937 Wrote: The mylar sleeves are perfect for -storing- CDs, but I'm not sure I would recommend them if your wife would be accessing the discs inside them every time she wants to listen to music. It's definitely not as easy as jewel cases to get the discs in and out of them, and it's not as easy to just browse the titles on a shelf. I think the Jazzloft cases would be better in those respects. If price were no object, I would have bought the Jazzloft ones, but the mylar sleeves are so much less money. The Jazzloft sleeves are brilliant, cannot recommend them too highly. Well worth the cost of importing them from US. I access them mainly to refer to the CD booklets. To me the main problem with digital music is the lack of sleeve notes and lyrics. If the record companies are as short of cash as they say they are, they could sell PDF copies of the CD booklets. If they were cheap enough they would sell lots and people would probably not bother to pirate them. -- TheLastMan Matt *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology Diskstation 107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. LPs ripped using Behringer UCA202 USB into Windows XP PC TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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peterw;601544 Wrote: Have you had a chance to try the Sleevetown mylar sleeves out yet? I was just about to order from jazzloft, but I'm intrigued by the mylar option, as I almost never access my CDs, not in the years since I got caught up ripping them for my Squeezeboxes. Yep, over the past couple of months I've loaded nearly all my CDs into the Sleevetown mylar sleeves. (I keep box sets intact.) The sleeves work perfectly for what I wanted to do. A small number of my CDs (e.g. with special booklets or extra artwork) were too thick to fit into the standard sleeves, so I also bought a pack of different mylar sleeves on eBay that are large enough to hold fatboy double CDs in their cases. Seven shelves worth of CDs now fit in about two and a third shelves. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TiredLegs;601624 Wrote: Yep, over the past couple of months I've loaded nearly all my CDs into the Sleevetown mylar sleeves. (I keep box sets intact.) The sleeves work perfectly for what I wanted to do. A small number of my CDs (e.g. with special booklets or extra artwork) were too thick to fit into the standard sleeves, so I also bought a pack of different mylar sleeves on eBay that are large enough to hold fatboy double CDs in their cases. Seven shelves worth of CDs now fit in about two and a third shelves. Great, thank you for the update. Now I just need to see if my wife will accept mylar for her discs or if she'll want the more familiar book-like jazzloft cases. I guess I'll get some Sleevetown for mine show her... again, thank you for the suggestion status report! -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimzak;584358 Wrote: Check my signature. My CDs are in the Media Library. Jimzak - that is one impressive CD collection, wow! -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,696 songs, 2,720 albums, 499 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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EdPell;561136 Wrote: J Do you often have to access them for one reason or another such as to load your vehicle's CD player? I have never, ever had original CDs in the car. At one time I had a car with a CD changer which I loaded with copies, that was great though I found some kinds of music didn't work well in the car. Now I have a tiny MP3 player I can plug into the car's sound system and play stuff from if what's on the radio is dull or the reception has gone - there is a dead patch (for radio 3, radio 4 and classic FM at least) on the M6 south of the Tebay services, sometimes it's bad all the way down to the A65 junction. -- cats_five cats_five's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39594 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TiredLegs;584337 Wrote: Then I discovered the super thin (1-2 mil) mylar plastic resealable sleeves used to protect entire CDs in their jewel cases. ... At Sleevetown.com for example, 500 of them sell for $18 (less than $0.04 each) plus shipping. Sleevetown even notes This sleeve may also be used to store the entire contents of a typical jewel case including back tray card and booklet for perfectly flat storage. (See Resealable Mylar Single Outer at http://www.sleevetown.com/plastic-cd-sleeves.shtml). For me, it seems like the best solution I've encountered thus far. I've experimented with a few I already have around, and I have a large quantity order on the way. If it all works out, I'll be hauling a couple hundred pounds of jewel case plastic to my local recycling collection facility. Have you had a chance to try the Sleevetown mylar sleeves out yet? I was just about to order from jazzloft, but I'm intrigued by the mylar option, as I almost never access my CDs, not in the years since I got caught up ripping them for my Squeezeboxes. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I've come across another option for removing CDs from their jewel cases. I was looking for something as thin as possible to permanently store the discs and all their associated insert materials as archival backups, with the likelihood that I will never access most of them ever again. (My collection of about 1000 CDs is all digitized for multiple Squeezeboxes and iPods. These days, I might look at a couple of CD inserts a month, and the only CDs I've played in months have been a few brand new ones that I played in my car before I digitized them.) Jewel Sleeves would have been ideal, except for their price of $0.40 apiece, or $400 for 1000 pieces. The JazzLoft.com sleeves are more reasonably priced at $0.15 each, and look like an excellent solution if you still want frequent access to your CDs. But the four layers of 4 mil plastic in the JazzLoft sleeves seemed bulkier than was necessary for my purposes. Then I discovered the super thin (1-2 mil) mylar plastic resealable sleeves used to protect entire CDs in their jewel cases. Turns out that they're ideal for minimalist storage without the jewel case. Everything fits nicely in these mylar sleeves, including one or two discs, the front booklet, and the rear insert with the flaps folded out flat. They can still go on a shelf with the text on the flaps easily visible just by running your fingers across them. They take up even less space than the JazzLoft sleeves. If you're worried (I'm not) about the CD surface touching the mylar or printed materials, you can always put the discs in super cheap paper sleeves before putting them in the mylar. For mini-LP style cardboard CD covers, the whole thing fits inside the mylar, helping preserve the cardboard from degradation. And the best part is that the mylar sleeves are quite inexpensive. At Sleevetown.com for example, 500 of them sell for $18 (less than $0.04 each) plus shipping. Sleevetown even notes This sleeve may also be used to store the entire contents of a typical jewel case including back tray card and booklet for perfectly flat storage. (See Resealable Mylar Single Outer at http://www.sleevetown.com/plastic-cd-sleeves.shtml). For me, it seems like the best solution I've encountered thus far. I've experimented with a few I already have around, and I have a large quantity order on the way. If it all works out, I'll be hauling a couple hundred pounds of jewel case plastic to my local recycling collection facility. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Check my signature. My CDs are in the Media Library. -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg) Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT54GL Server: SBS 7.5.1 - Atom-based nettop - Win XP SP3 Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch with a Controller Control: 1 extra controller, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng for iPad SqueezePad Files: 81,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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MelonMonkey;570265 Wrote: If I was super adventurous, I'd put together a very handsome shelving unit to hold them all in a room upstairs - with a unique RFID inserted into each jewel case. Then a small RFID reader disguised in a piece of furniture near the stereo (possibly a couple of others embedded in the walls) all wired to the server. Pick up a jewel case and swipe it in front of the reader to start it playing on the Squeezebox in that zone. This is a great idea but you don't even need the RFID\reader. Think barcodes phones. The Android phones can all read barcodes so you can just scan the barcode find the name of the cd and search your library and play. Could be automated by the developers of apps for these phones. -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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oh all these cd`s -- ikhlas6 ikhlas6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39971 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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lrossouw;570508 Wrote: This is a great idea but you don't even need the RFID\reader. Think barcodes phones. The Android phones can all read barcodes so you can just scan the barcode find the name of the cd and search your library and play. Could be automated by the developers of apps for these phones. While I agree, I do really like the implications of MelonMonkey's idea :) Take a CD off the shelf and place it on your coffee table, that album starts to play. Take the CD to another room and the stream follows you around the house. Day to day it might be a complete pain in the ass, but it would be an amazing concept to show off if done right :) -- funkstar '[project log] funkstars digital lifestyle' (http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-lifestyle/179882-project-log-funkstars-digital-lifestyle.html) - 'hexus.community' (http://forums.hexus.net/) *in use:* *1*x touch, *1*x boom, *2*x sb3, *1*x controller *in a box:* *1*x radio, *1*x (beta) controller, *1*x receiver, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) if you have any others, let me know, i'm interested!! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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funkstar;570522 Wrote: While I agree, I do really like the implications of MelonMonkey's idea :) Take a CD off the shelf and place it on your coffee table, that album starts to play. Take the CD to another room and the stream follows you around the house. Day to day it might be a complete pain in the ass, but it would be an amazing concept to show off if done right :) Ah actually you're right. The rfid version would be cool too, but it'd be more work. At the moment tagging is tough but it would be nothing compared to the efforts RFID tagging would involve :D -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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MelonMonkey;570265 Wrote: CDs are currently stored in three large cardboard boxes in the basement. Not having access to a physical object representing an album is a bit of a nostalgic loss. There's something so visceral about browsing through a shelf of disks, like old books. If I was super adventurous, I'd put together a very handsome shelving unit to hold them all in a room upstairs - with a unique RFID inserted into each jewel case. Then a small RFID reader disguised in a piece of furniture near the stereo (possibly a couple of others embedded in the walls) all wired to the server. Pick up a jewel case and swipe it in front of the reader to start it playing on the Squeezebox in that zone. OK, I can understand the nostalgic or sensory loss as I still enjoy the ritual of preparing to play Vinyl. Having said that, the whole idea of the Squeezebox (or any digital media player) is to play digital files relieving us of the need to search or dig through CDs. I have discovered more old favorites since using Squeezebox, then in the last 15 years of playing CDs in a CDP. Also with a Controller, Touch, or iPeng, one can look at album covers. I enjoy iPeng in Portrait mode. Besides with the number of CDs I have, it was taking longer to find a CD just to play it then I spent listening to music. Plus the time to take it out, put it in the play, take it out, and put it back in place. Sure the RFID only requires me to 'find' it, but I could have already been listening using iPeng. The money spent on RFID tags and scanners could go toward purchasing more music. Its a novel idea, but if one is going to use a server anyway seems like a lot to go through just to play a CD. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?
iPhone;570606 Wrote: OK, I can understand the nostalgic or sensory loss as I still enjoy the ritual of preparing to play Vinyl. Having said that, the whole idea of the Squeezebox (or any digital media player) is to play digital files relieving us of the need to search or dig through CDs. I have discovered more old favorites since using Squeezebox, then in the last 15 years of playing CDs in a CDP. Also with a Controller, Touch, or iPeng, one can look at album covers. I enjoy iPeng in Portrait mode. Besides with the number of CDs I have, it was taking longer to find a CD just to play it then I spent listening to music. Plus the time to take it out, put it in the play, take it out, and put it back in place. Sure the RFID only requires me to 'find' it, but I could have already been listening using iPeng. The money spent on RFID tags and scanners could go toward purchasing more music. Its a novel idea, but if one is going to use a server anyway seems like a lot to go through just to play a CD. I'm with iPhone. From a technology geek perspective, it would be really cool, but I don't think it would prove tremendously useful outside of a very select few. I think money and effort could be spent on better things, like developing better tagging schemes, better library database schema, and multiple library support. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?
So far they are in boxes. I have no idea what I'm going to do with them. Probably save them like my albums and never use them again just to haul around where ever I go. Maybe give them away or trade them in (I know,I know.). How about a link for that flac tester. Sounds like a nice choice or else the way to use the flac files to test instead of just saying it can be done would be appreciated. Thanks in advance if you teach us how to do it my friend. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?
maggior;570724 Wrote: I'm with iPhone. From a technology geek perspective, it would be really cool, but I don't think it would prove tremendously useful outside of a very select few. I think money and effort could be spent on better things, like developing better tagging schemes, better library database schema, and multiple library support. Real multiple libraries would be good. So far, I'm making do with multiple vortexbox virtual machines... P -- pski real stereo makes the lights dim on the bass notes. (this means your amp could also use it's own circuit.) pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
