Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
I don't know if this is fully resolved yet or not, but if not, looking at the netstumbler output I would suggest putting the router on channel 1. Also, what model linksys router is it? If it is an older WRT54G or any vintage WRT54GL you can replace the firmware with a great third party firmware called Tomato and crank up the transmit power a bit. -- lanierb lanierb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5566 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
andynormancx;319317 Wrote: You guys appear to be mixing up the two different tests, wifi signal strength one and the network test one (easy to do because the graphs look the same). cronshd posted the details of his wifi signal strength test showing him managing 40-50% on it. Phil then responded saying you NEED to get 100% at 1500 not 40-50%. It is true that he needs to get 100% at 1500, but not on the wifi strength test. He needs to achieve the 100% on the network test screen. It is perfectly possible to get that while only achieving 40-50% on the wifi test and you are never likely to see 100% on the wifi strength test screen. It is obviously best to try and get the highest possible response on the wifi test though. N.B. I'm not trying to say that the advice Phil gave to try and fix the problem was wrong, that was spot on, just pointing out that the two of you were looking at two different tests... In the end, I was looking at both..(if you follow the threads I think you will see that)it was a rapid learning experience me and thanks to everyone (especially Phil) who helped me out. SS 6.5 produced a summary report which I looked at this morning - it said: Performance Summary : David Please queue up several tracks to play on this player and start them playing. Then press the Reset link below to clear the statistics and update this display. Reset Summary Control Connection : OK Streaming Connection : OK Signal Strength: OK Buffer Fullness: Low Server Response Time : OK Warnings The playback buffer for this player is occasionally falling lower than ideal. This is a Squeezebox2/3 and so the buffer fullness is expected to drop at the end of each track. You may see this warning if you are playing lots of short tracks. If you are hearing audio dropouts, please check your network signal strength - So I take from that (and of course, my listening experience) it is fine! (Next thread will be about Squeezecenter install.I just need to pause and try a few things out first so as (hopefully) not to waste people's time). -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
The best advice I can give you is: 0) make a note of ALL of your 6.5.x setup preferences - some of these MAY need to re-entered by you later under certain circumstancesin 7.x 1) (if windows) reboot the PC then stop SS if it auto-starts before installing new version of SC. 2) use the latest version of 7.x you feel comfortable with. I use 7.2 (8th July nightly) and it is rock-solid. 3) if you hit problems get back on here and we can sort it out 7.x rocks over 6.5.x Good Luck Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Wired or wi-fi connection to the player? I'd guess wi-fi and some interference on the channel, either another wi-fi router, X10 unit or wireless phone has been installed nearby. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
when you say distorted, do you mean that the music stutters like it is being interrupted? Are you wireless? - run a network health test and report back -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Yes - it breaks up - stutters and comes to a halt. And now it is starting to happen on MP3s - the behaviour is a little different.it goes distorted/stuttering then starts rebuffering. So it is not just for FLACs now. Yes it is wireless - and has been working perfectly for 6 months or so. There has been no recent change to the infrastructure in the house. I have rebooted modem/wireless router. Is there anything I can test - to see what might be the cause? I just did a scan for wireless networks - and found my Linksys (Encrypted) with 100% strength. I also found another duplicate Linksys - which is Open ie not encrypted. Not sure what has happened here.Help!!! COuld this be the cause? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Like Phil said, run the network health test that comes with SC and report back. There are a lot of possibilities for the new interference, such as neighbors with new wireless networks (or just new routers), 2.4GHz phones, etc. You could install NetStumbler to find out what wireless channel(s) they are operating on and then change your channel to something that is non-overlapping. NetStumbler will only tell you about WiFi networks, not cordless phones. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Hi I ran NetStumbler (see attached screen dump) - and it shows 2 Linksys (my SSID) entries. I changed (via the Linksys 192.168.1.1) the channel to channel 12. I'm not sure why there are 2 entries as there is only one modem/router. I also switched off the cordless phone in the house. None of this makes a difference - and it still stutters/breaks then grinds to a halt. I get 100% wireless strength on the laptop close to the Squeezebox. I can't run Squeezecenter diagnostic because if I install and run Squeezecenter, I get the message -Your player was not found. If you own a Squeezebox or Transporter: Make sure that your player is plugged in and its networking settings are correct. Click the Refresh button once your player is connected. If you do not own a Squeezebox - This is by default using the url http://192.168.1.101:9000 If I replace the 192.168.1.101 with 'Server' (the name of my Server) then SlimServer starts running. +---+ |Filename: cronshd linksys.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5426| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
I'm not sure why there are 2 entries as there is only one modem/router The MAC addresses are different, that's another linksys with a default SSID I'd try moving to channels 3 or 9 and see what the reception is like. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
amcluesent;319166 Wrote: I'm not sure why there are 2 entries as there is only one modem/router The MAC addresses are different, that's another linksys with a default SSID I'd try moving to channels 3 or 9 and see what the reception is like. That, and also change your SSID (and admin password) from the default to something else (it won't help you with SC, but it is a basic security, and sanity, measure). -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
amcluesent;319166 Wrote: I'm not sure why there are 2 entries as there is only one modem/router The MAC addresses are different, that's another linksys with a default SSID I'd try moving to channels 3 or 9 and see what the reception is like. Sodo you mean there is another linksys router in da house? That is not possible - there is just one modem, one router, one server. How can I delete that 'rogue' entry? Anyway as per attached, I went into the linksys url and changed the channel to 3 (although it shows up on NetStumbler as 3*, 12). I then rebooted again the Squeezebox. It made no difference. I am wondering if it is some setting which is about 'buffering' in some way - as it also is stuttering on Radio. It never used to do any of this. I am also wondering if it is connected with the failed attempts to properly install/connect Squeezecentre - as it was fine with SlimServer. (Although I have switched off my laptops to test this - and just have a 'pure' Server - to - Squeezebox configuration). Any other ideas of things to try? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
This is the latest NetStumbler. attached... +---+ |Filename: cronshd linksys v2.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5428| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
I ran SlimServer and went to the Debugging section - and switched some of the flags on (not sure exactly what each flag is - as it is not explained). Anyway, the resulting log is attached. You can see if you go to 'Beck' - maybe where the problems start. It does not mean so mcuh to me - but I can see 00:04:20:12:25:cb: Decoder underrun while this mode: playout-play for example.as well as other stuff. Does this help? +---+ |Filename: cronshd - debug log 2.doc| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5429| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
The 2nd router could be a neighbours not a rogue. Test this possibility by turning off your linksys router and then run NetStumbler - if there is only one linksys router left then there is a neighbouring router causing the problem. In terms of network testing. From SB3 run the Network Test under Extras. To play Flac files you need 100% at least 1500kbps sustained for a few minutes. What is the max speed on your setup where you get 100%. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Your symptoms are consistent with a neighbour having installed a new WAP recently. Follow BPA's advice and report back. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Hi - ok - yes I think it must be a neighbours device (from a long distance). I switched mine off and could see on NetStumbler there was still a Linksys - and if I did Fn+F5 - to scan for wireless networks it came up. Interestingly, it came up at about 5% strength - and yet now when I switch my router back on the neightbour Linksys is about 90%. Anyway, my next question (and btw - thanks so much guys for your patience and time on this) - is this. When I saw there were duplicate names a few hours ago (before your 'neighbour suggestion' - I changed router name and got myself into a bit of mess and so I changed it back. So I want to know how to changed the SSID in easy steps. What happened for me to get in a mess? Ok - the set up here is 1 modem, 1 linksys wireless router, I Tranquil server and 2 laptops running Windows XP. 1. I went to the Linksys url and changed the SSID to Linksysnew 2. Then I discovered of course, that I lost the connection on Laptop1. 3. On Laptop1 if I go to Windows-Control Panel-Network Connections - there aren;t any. (I had anticipated I would just go there and make a change somewhere there). 4. So I went to Laptop2 and managed to connect and change the SSID back to linksys ...So I appreciate this might be a bit outside of your domain - but if you could help on this it would be great. Thanks again. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
cronshd;319202 Wrote: Hi - ok - yes I think it must be a neighbours device (from a long distance). I switched mine off and could see on NetStumbler there was still a Linksys - and if I did Fn+F5 - to scan for wireless networks it came up. Interestingly, it came up at about 5% strength - and yet now when I switch my router back on the neightbour Linksys is about 90%. Anyway, my next question (and btw - thanks so much guys for your patience and time on this) - is this. When I saw there were duplicate names a few hours ago (before your 'neighbour suggestion' - I changed router name and got myself into a bit of mess and so I changed it back. So I want to know how to changed the SSID in easy steps. What happened for me to get in a mess? Ok - the set up here is 1 modem, 1 linksys wireless router, I Tranquil server and 2 laptops running Windows XP. 1. I went to the Linksys url and changed the SSID to Linksysnew 2. Then I discovered of course, that I lost the connection on Laptop1. 3. On Laptop1 if I go to Windows-Control Panel-Network Connections - there aren;t any. (I had anticipated I would just go there and make a change somewhere there). 4. So I went to Laptop2 and managed to connect and change the SSID back to linksys ...So I appreciate this might be a bit outside of your domain - but if you could help on this it would be great. Thanks again. Have you rebooted Laptop1? It's odd that there is no network connection on L1 (as L2 is fine if I'm following you). Sounds like you need to add a new wireless network connection on L1, using the Wireless Networking Wizard (or whatever its called). -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ok - quick update. I changed my SSID - and set up Squeezebox with the new id etc - and reset the network on the PC. So far..it seems to be working!! :-) I've listened to 2 tracks straight through and no stuttering. I hope it continues! Thank you very much. I do appreciate your replies. Meanwhile - there is just the slight problem of getting SqueezeCenter up and running - should I create a new thread for that? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ouch - just as I posted - I got a short stutter - although transient it continued - but it unnerved me a bit. Is there some way I can do proper test? Apart from listening to stuff non-stop. I want to check the 'fidelity' of the sound. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
cronshd;319211 Wrote: Ouch - just as I posted - I got a short stutter - although transient it continued - but it unnerved me a bit. Is there some way I can do proper test? Apart from listening to stuff non-stop. I want to check the 'fidelity' of the sound. It's not the fidelity that is the issue (it either works perfectly or it stutters - there's no real middle ground on this). You need to run the network server health test. It sounds like you still have wireless netwrok issues. Your setup has two wireless hope (server to router, router to SB) so you are on the edge of reliability IMHO. Do you know how to run the server test? - enable the plugin, restart SS and rune the test...report back. You need to get 1500kbps at 100% to stream FLAC -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Hi Phil No - I have never run the test before. Is it possible you can give me step by step instructions? The set up has been perfect for the lat 6 monthsno problems whatsoever... Thanks Oh - and the Server is connected by a cable into the back of the Wireless Router. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
cronshd;319216 Wrote: Hi Phil No - I have never run the test before. Is it possible you can give me step by step instructions? The set up has been perfect for the lat 6 monthsno problems whatsoever... Thanks Oh - and the Server is connected by a cable into the back of the Wireless Router. Ah - good. You should be able to get this working perfectly then. Right, now what version of server software are you running? Go to settings - advanced - plugins and enable the Server and Network Health plug in - then restart the server software. See that help icon on the bottom left of the server home page...click on it Then get back online to me! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Just before we get into that, I think that the 'ouch' just got a stutter was because Laptop2 was still associated with 'Linksys'. I went to check out L2 - and music was still playing - then when I started messing with the network settings (to get it on to the new SSID) I could hear the music stutter even more.then when I Shut Down L2 and skipped to the next track - it has...so farbeen perfect. Anyway the server software is also doing my head in a bit. I was fine with SlimServer - then I downloaded Squeezecenter - and could not get it connected to my Squeezebox.(I haven;t tried in the last hour since SSID change). So I have the remnants of SlimServer: SlimServer Version: 6.5.4 - 12568 - Windows Server 2003 - EN - cp1252 I can't see a Server Network Health plug in. Here is the screen I am looking at (attached)... +---+ |Filename: cronshd screen.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5430| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Yes - it was called Network test under 6.5.x (sorry I'm on 7.2 nowadays) Anyway, from your screenshot it is installed - I just can't remember how you run it on that version... Do you have a help icon on the home page? It's either there where you run it or it's run from the Player itself using the remote under the Plugins menu (can't remember sorry) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ok - I found it... it is a click on Server and Network health. I ran the highest rate at 5000kbps. The result is attached. I have had more stutters since (even though L2 is shut down). See attached. +---+ |Filename: cronshd network test 1.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5431| +---+ -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
And now much lower - more like 59-60it seemed as if it was stuttering but obviously I couldnt hear anything... -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ok - I can see that I can collect performance stats for the Player and Server. Should I send these to you after running the test for sometime? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
cronshd;319232 Wrote: Ok - I can see that I can collect performance stats for the Player and Server. Should I send these to you after running the test for sometime? No... you need to run the test at 1500 (not 5000) and see what happens. If it is not 100% then you have a wif-fi issue. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
And click on enable performance monitoring and see what that says... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Hi ok At 1500, this is the Signal Strenght result so far. I have a slight confession.I noticed that I had put a large solid box (of vinyl) in front of the wireless router - and I guess this may also have had an impact. At least, the average seems to be increasing - as we speak it is now 43.% and going up. Sorry if that has also been a contributing factor (I am starting to convert my vinyl). ==j Signal Strength This graph shows the strength of the wireless signal received by your player. Higher signal strength is better. The player reports signal strength while it is playing. 10 :0 : 0% 20 :1 : 1% 30 :1 : 1% 40 : 35 : 32% ### 50 : 66 : 59% # 60 :8 : 7% ### 70 :0 : 0% 80 :0 : 0% 90 :0 : 0% 100 :0 : 0% =100 :0 : 0% max : 53.00 min : 19.00 avg : 42.819820 -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
OK that is your problem right there - you have way too little signal strength and you NEED to get 100% at 1500 not 40-50% Could something be interfering with your wi-fi? Neighbours maybe? Try moving the router a bit... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ok - I moved the router a bit higher (that's all I can do right now). It is starting to hit 60%. What I don;t understand is that my laptop which is about 1m away from the Squeezebox gets a 100% signal. Why would that be? -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
cronshd;319248 Wrote: Ok - I moved the router a bit higher (that's all I can do right now). It is starting to hit 60%. What I don;t understand is that my laptop which is about 1m away from the Squeezebox gets a 100% signal. Why would that be? The 2 network strength tests are completely different. On the SS network test you need that line (near the bottom) that says =100% to say 100. The way a laptop interacts with a router is very different to the way that an SB interacts with its server via the router. I bet you can browse the web just fine on your laptop? - means nothing when it comes to streaming music to an SB. It is possible that there is something else happening. Did you enable performance monitoring? You need buffer fullness to be 100% too...you can see that on there. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Ok - I understand on the laptop getting 100% ok. Do I need some signal boosting equipment? Yes - I enabled Performance Monitoring - that gave the stats I sent. The buffer though did not produce any numbers - it was always zero. ...is that another issue? At the moment - listening to a FLAC album - it seems just fine btw. Obviously I would like to get it to 100% if that is the appropriate standard. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
...and currently, the average is nearly 60%.. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
cronshd;319256 Wrote: Ok - I understand on the laptop getting 100% ok. Do I need some signal boosting equipment? Yes - I enabled Performance Monitoring - that gave the stats I sent. The buffer though did not produce any numbers - it was always zero. ...is that another issue? At the moment - listening to a FLAC album - it seems just fine btw. Obviously I would like to get it to 100% if that is the appropriate standard. Well basically if it works ok for you...then it works OK! but I sense you are on the edge and may suffer in the future. Do you have neighbours who might have wi-fi? Try changing the channel on the router to see if that helps. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Hi Phil. Ok - I changed channel - it is now consistently in the 70's. Thanks very much for your help on this. -- cronshd cronshd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11954 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
Phil Leigh;319246 Wrote: OK that is your problem right there - you have way too little signal strength and you NEED to get 100% at 1500 not 40-50% You guys appear to be mixing up the two different tests, wifi signal strength one and the network test one (easy to do because the graphs look the same). cronshd posted the details of his wifi signal strength test showing him managing 40-50% on it. Phil then responded saying you NEED to get 100% at 1500 not 40-50%. It is true that he needs to get 100% at 1500, but not on the wifi strength test. He needs to achieve the 100% on the network test screen. It is perfectly possible to get that while only achieving 40-50% on the wifi test and you are never likely to see 100% on the wifi strength test screen. It is obviously best to try and get the highest possible response on the wifi test though. N.B. I'm not trying to say that the advice Phil gave to try and fix the problem was wrong, that was spot on, just pointing out that the two of you were looking at two different tests... -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC files now very distorted - MP3s ok
andynormancx;319317 Wrote: You guys appear to be mixing up the two different tests, wifi signal strength one and the network test one (easy to do because the graphs look the same). cronshd posted the details of his wifi signal strength test showing him managing 40-50% on it. Phil then responded saying you NEED to get 100% at 1500 not 40-50%. It is true that he needs to get 100% at 1500, but not on the wifi strength test. He needs to achieve the 100% on the network test screen. It is perfectly possible to get that while only achieving 40-50% on the wifi test and you are never likely to see 100% on the wifi strength test screen. It is obviously best to try and get the highest possible response on the wifi test though. N.B. I'm not trying to say that the advice Phil gave to try and fix the problem was wrong, that was spot on, just pointing out that the two of you were looking at two different tests... Yes thats right. I run 7.x wired so its hard for me to remember what the tests look like for ear;ier versions/wireless! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
