Re: [slim] SqueezeBox Classic: frequent connection timeouts when used with Yacast webradios
Just for the record, this problem went away after I upgraded my Squeezebox Classic from firmware #130 to firmware #132. -- alain_nissen alain_nissen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76187 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
sadglad;601732 Wrote: Okey, I'll try closing Norton and Windows firewall and see if that helps, thank you for the advice :) The SB Radio can connect to my PC if I wanna listen to Spotify with Triodes app or MP3's, the only thing that isn't working yet is DSBridge. I have Spotify premium but would like to stream to the SB Radio and control Spotify on my PC where it's easier to search or add a queue. Does it work when you turn off the firewall? I have the same problem, and tried to disable my firewall (Kapersky) with out any luck. /Marcus -- marcall marcall's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44116 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
sebp;614063 Wrote: I have made some experiments on my system with my ears, where I just could not hear any difference between standard and hires files. I wish I could, but I honestly couldn't. I think it's pretty clear the differences are anything but earth-shaking. From my experience, the difference is not there for 99% of the music and in that 1% where it is audible, the difference is so small it's easily missed. Think of it as the need for a car having 10 gears. In most situations it really doesn't make a difference from a standard car having just 5 gears but in some limited very specific cases it may be the possibility of having an extra gear in between the normal 4 and 5 may bring a very small advantage to the table. -- Griffin Griffin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
Great work bluegaspode! I looked for a wishlist thread, sorry if this request is misplaced... How about adding some type of sound-sensitive visualization, or the ability to run a third-party vis app like G-force or Geiss. Like a second screensaver mode. Screensaver mode could start with the enlarged album art view, as it does now, then, after a user-defined period, cycle to a visualization mode. Seems like the optional play-to-iPad feature could allow the movement of the visualization to be synced to the music being streamed. I mean, really, how hard could it be? :) I would gladly pay for this add-on. I am sure many other couch potato/lava lamp/party mode type users would as well. Thanks again for a great product and awesome support! -- Bigtwistee Bigtwistee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39975 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
Love Squeezepad's elegant design and simplicity! On my iPad though, the volume slider in the main screen is very difficult to set precisely. It works better in the larger artwork screen, possibly because it's longer. Even though I mostly control volume on my preamp, I would very much like to see a longer slider in the main screen so that I could more easily make minor volume adjustments (near the 100 mark) with greater precision. Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge; Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch Music File Player (digital out to Cambridge Azur 840C DAC) *Preamps*: Conrad Johnson Motif (Phono); Adcom GFP-750 (Line) *Amps*: Music Reference RM-200 Mk II (Main); Little Tube Mk III (Phones) *Subwoofer Equalizer*: DSpeaker Antimode 8033 *Speakers*: Martin Logan SL3s; REL T1 Subwoofer *Headphones*: AKG K701 guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
Are there any news - to use this tool with Squeezebox Server 7.6.0 ?? -- stehohrhase stehohrhase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36772 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
Doesn't the Squeezebox only have 25 Volume steps anyway? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
stehohrhase;614233 Wrote: Are there any news - to use this tool with Squeezebox Server 7.6.0 ?? SBS 7.6 has a new database schema which requires ACC to be updated to become compatible. SBS 7.6 will also by default use the new SQlite database. SQlite is not made with multi-user remote access in mind. For ACC to support it a number of possibilities need to be evaluated (like using a non-official ODBC driver or working with a local copy of the database file, ...) However SBS 7.6 also provides an option to use the MySQL database. It will be easy to modify ACC to support this scenario and hence this support will be the first available after 7.6 release. -- SilverRS8 Author of -'AlbumCatalogCreator' (http://acc.vanholt.nl)- for Squeezebox'_' (http://www.badkamerpech.nl)Server . 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xDuet, 1xRadio, 1xiPhone iPeng, Ubuntu NAS + SBS SilverRS8's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
Bigtwistee;614177 Wrote: How about adding some type of sound-sensitive visualization, or the ability to run a third-party vis app like G-force or Geiss. Are there third-party vis Apps out there? Didn't find any on the AppStore but maybe I didn't look right. Visualization would only work when streaming to the iPad. For a SqueezeBox one doesn't have the data. Personally I think on the long run I'd rather implement downloading new images for the current song from the internet to present it while stuff is playing. What do other people think about visualizations of the current song? Should we have jumping lights and animations on the main screen, who else would be interested in such a feature? guidof Wrote: On my iPad though, the volume slider in the main screen is very difficult to set precisely. Hi guidof, in the latest version you can tap on the volume icons to get increments of 1. You can also hold the icon to increase/decrease volume in a slow pace. I guess this should help you settings the right volume! Doesn't the Squeezebox only have 25 Volume steps anyway? The volume curve in SqueezePlay source-code has 100 entries. Based on comments it's derived from Booms volume curve. So I guess at least on the newer devices 100 discrete values are available indeed. -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* - -now featuring streaming to iPad!- Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.x) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Apple's sudden interest in 24-bit sound is likely in preparation for new hardware, and where Apple goes, folks tend to follow. I like the idea of 24-bit files, but my equipment and ears cannot distinguish it from 16-bit. Perhaps Apple can lure a few young folks away from white earbuds to audiophile equipment. I see that as a good thing. I'll stick with SB though. -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT54GL Server: SBS 7.5.3 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng for iPad SqueezePad 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 76,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
bluegaspode;614244 Wrote: The volume curve in SqueezePlay source-code has 100 entries. Based on comments it's derived from Booms volume curve. So I guess at least on the newer devices 100 discrete values are available indeed. You are right. I remembered that wrongly. BTW, the Boom one isn't used, the linear one is, the Boom one is commented out, I believe ;) Maybe it was the IP3K players which only support 25 steps (yes, they show more). -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
jimzak;614252 Wrote: Perhaps Apple can lure a few young folks away from white earbuds to audiophile equipment. I bet they saw services like HDTracks taking some of the typical iTunes users away, thats all. -- Wombat Transporter (modded) - RG142 - Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks - Sommer SPK240 - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
pippin;614253 Wrote: You are right. I remembered that wrongly. BTW, the Boom one isn't used, the linear one is, the Boom one is commented out, I believe ;) SlimProto sends values based on the Boom volume curve - and SqueezePlay uses them 1:1. For further reference follow the white rabbit to Playback.lua and _serverVolumeToGain. (the values get converted to a linear scale and then back to the volume curve - that's where the magic 65536 from soundchecks/peterws 100% volume lock are from) CometD is working on the linear 0-99 scale though - so the volume slider values are linear, but the actual volume changes are much more sensitive on the lower end. Which - if one has an amp connected to say a Touch also means to: a) either use the 100% volume lock and only use the Amps volume b) or raise the volume of the Amp and operate the Touch on lower volume values to get good fine grained volume controls (and reduced dynamics of the audio on these low volume levels :( ) Guess (a) should definitely be te preferred way if one bought a Touch because of it's good sound. But then the volume sliders in our Apps are useless. Damn. Always these compromises Thanks god a have son, so audio quality in the living room is affected by this particular noise floor I cannot change anyway whatever I try. Need to wait 17 more years :) -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* - -now featuring streaming to iPad!- Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.x) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
jimzak;614252 Wrote: Perhaps Apple can lure a few young folks away from white earbuds to audiophile equipment. I see that as a good thing. Me too, but I'm a bit puzzled by the leap to 24-bit. I mean, does iTunes store even offer anything lossless yet, even in 16-bit? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
aubuti;614309 Wrote: Me too, but I'm a bit puzzled by the leap to 24-bit. I mean, does iTunes store even offer anything lossless yet, even in 16-bit? Worst case scenario is that they are developing some mongrel hirez aac format ? 24/96 but done with perceptual coding so the filesize is at CD size or something. That would surely sound good enough, but leave you with all other problems a propriatary lossy format has such as cascade coding artefacts when transcoding etc, problems when migrating the data in the future. If they offer exactly whats on the CD people are going to compare with CD prices. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
bluegaspode;614292 Wrote: SlimProto sends values based on the Boom volume curve - and SqueezePlay uses them 1:1. For further reference follow the white rabbit to Playback.lua and _serverVolumeToGain. Ah, yes. I see. It was the SB2 curve that was commented out... Which - if one has an amp connected to say a Touch also means to: a) either use the 100% volume lock and only use the Amps volume b) or raise the volume of the Amp and operate the Touch on lower volume values to get good fine grained volume controls (and reduced dynamics of the audio on these low volume levels :( ) c) use a plugin that allows control of the AMP through the volume slider while keeping the Touch's output at 100%, e.g. the Denon ones. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Mnyb;614320 Wrote: Worst case scenario is that they are developing some mongrel hirez aac format ? 24/96 but done with perceptual coding so the filesize is at CD size or something. That would surely sound good enough, but leave you with all other problems a propriatary lossy format has such as cascade coding artefacts when transcoding etc, problems when migrating the data in the future. If they offer exactly whats on the CD people are going to compare with CD prices. Recent lossy codecs are already floating point and have no bit depth in a way PCM wavs have. So if you feed them with 24bit files and no higher sampling rate i doubt the files will be different much cause the psycho-acoustic will leave the music content below the noise floor of 16bit away already most of the time. -- Wombat Transporter (modded) - RG142 - Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks - Sommer SPK240 - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Wombat;614329 Wrote: Recent lossy codecs are already floating point and have no bit depth in a way PCM wavs have. So if you feed them with 24bit files and no higher sampling rate i doubt the files will be different much cause the psycho-acoustic will leave the music content below the noise floor of 16bit away already most of the time. Very likely so but wonder if get better result compressing to mp3 from 24/96 or 16/44.1 ? An exception must be another mongrel format DTS 24/96 (not to confuse with DTS-HD Master Audio wich is for bluray and lossles ) As many others have done you can wonder what psycho-acoustic model DTS uses above 20khz -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Mnyb;614334 Wrote: Very likely so but I wonder if one gets better result compressing to mp3 from 24/96 or 16/44.1 ? I doubt that. The developers of mp3 and their test sample arsenal no and never had a 24bit sample that only was transparent when restoring more then 16bit. If so i am really curious and must have missed that in all the years i followed the lame encoder developement. Mnyb;614334 Wrote: As many others have done you can wonder what psycho-acoustic model DTS uses above 20khz I bet they had an audiophile beneeth the developement team that had mental contact to his cat... -- Wombat Transporter (modded) - RG142 - Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks - Sommer SPK240 - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
SilverRS8;614237 Wrote: However SBS 7.6 also provides an option to use the MySQL database. It will be easy to modify ACC to support this scenario and hence this support will be the first available after 7.6 release. I think this is no longer the case - since a fairly recent recent nightly build. Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Several other news sources have also reported that iTunes will probably be offering 24-bit audio soon. http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/02/22/24.bit.music/ http://www.geekistry.com/2011/02/22/24-bit-music-coming-to-itunes/ http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/apple-wants-24-bit-audio-for-itunes-music-downloads-20110222/ http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/02/itunes-may-upgrade-to-24-bit-files-but-why-bother.ars http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-could-sell-higher-quality-music-files-but-why-would-it-2011-2 This will be like iTunes and Amazon Video on Demand offering movie rentals in standard definition at $3.99 and the same movies in high definition for rental for a dollar more. Apparently Apple wants to cover the entire audio market too, irrespective of whether 24-bit audio will be worth the extra cost to the consumer. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Seeking High Bitrate Music Streaming Service
I don't believe the wav plugin can be used with a Mac ,can it? -- jhonsber...@msn.com jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85518 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
bluegaspode;614244 Wrote: Hi guidof, in the latest version you can tap on the volume icons to get increments of 1. You can also hold the icon to increase/decrease volume in a slow pace. I guess this should help you settings the right volume! Thank you. I was not aware that the volume icons are actually active. However, while the + (right side) works well, the - (left side) is hit or miss. It seems as though it needs a larger target area to work as well as the +. (Both icons work well in the larger artwork screen). Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge; Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch Music File Player (digital out to Cambridge Azur 840C DAC) *Preamps*: Conrad Johnson Motif (Phono); Adcom GFP-750 (Line) *Amps*: Music Reference RM-200 Mk II (Main); Little Tube Mk III (Phones) *Subwoofer Equalizer*: DSpeaker Antimode 8033 *Speakers*: Martin Logan SL3s; REL T1 Subwoofer *Headphones*: AKG K701 guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay/msb.com, Sirius app
Well, It looks like I figured out my problem and here is what I think happened... I had my Squeezeplay on two separate PC connected to Msb.com and when I tried to play Sirius, it did not know how to decode WMA. I went into my local server and made the Squeezeplay disconnect from Msb.com and run thru my server. Now they both work fine. That was a fun few hours! All I wanted to do was listen to Sirius while I changed my oil in my truck and next thing I know, I got sucked down a worm hole trying to figure this out. Oh well, I guess that is how you learn. -- slimrick slimrick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9535 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85947 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
guidof;614356 Wrote: Thank you. I was not aware that the volume icons are actually active. However, while the + (right side) works well, the - (left side) is hit or miss. It seems as though it needs a larger target area to work as well as the +. (Both icons work well in the larger artwork screen). Hhmm - this is strange - actually the target area is the same size for both icons and quite large already. Here is a picture from the interface, showing the active areas - so don't try to hit the small icon exactly, there is plenty of room to the left which should work as well. +---+ |Filename: vol-icons.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11441| +---+ -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* - -now featuring streaming to iPad!- Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.x) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss