Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Starting the New Year with ACFUG

2007-01-05 Thread Steven Ross

This is flex 1.5 though right?

On 1/4/07, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Here's another good Flex sample app:
http://maps.yahoo.com

-Cameron

On 1/4/07, Alex Pilson  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At 3:35 PM -0500 1/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I remember being at the Flex demo Ben Forta gave a while back and thought
to myself where and how would I use this in a real world app? As I have
never come across a site that has used Flex for anything.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] IE7 vs IE6

2006-12-20 Thread Steven Ross

from google ie7 quirks mode
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/quirksmode.html


On 12/19/06, Mike Staver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I know I read about this somewhere - but isn't there a way to force IE7
to behave like IE6 in terms of some quirks vs native behavior? The day 7
was released, I thought I had read somewhere about a quick tag you could
put at the top of your pages to force this one way or another. Anybody
know what I'm referring to?
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] unit testing

2006-12-14 Thread Steven Ross

CFCUnit is good for most things just make sure when you are
setting up your tests that you customize your fail scenarios to
include your object/variable that fails. I've also had some issues
with debugging giving me bad error messages (saying one thing when
actually  it was another) I think that has to do with the try/catch
mechanism.

I havent tried cfunit

On 12/14/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ok, I'm wanting to start messing with unit testing of CFCs and introduce it
to some staff.  I must admit, I'm a bit behind on this topic.  I see two
projects about cfcUnit and CFUnit.  Any opinions on these?

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[ACFUG Discuss] Re: regex help

2006-12-13 Thread Steven Ross

hmm... ok i dug a little deeper

([A-Z]|[a-z]|;|_|=|/|\s)*

On 12/13/06, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I should be able to do this... but its beating me up and im no
masochist so here it is:

this is my string (its the cookie in a cfhttp call and i need to pass
it back in):

BIGipServerupower_proc_pool=2932677656.6145.; path=/

and i want to just get this via regex: 2932677656.6145.

thanks,

Steven

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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF serving platform

2006-11-30 Thread Steven Ross

hehe... what does myspace run on?

On 11/29/06, Derrick Peavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Blue Dragon Server JX on Mac OS X Server 10.4.8 and Dual G5 X Serve, 8 GB
RAM.

Have handled as many as 600,000 user sessions per day with no hiccup.





_

Derrick Peavy

Sales and Web Services

Universal Advertising

Phone: 404-786-5036

Fax: 404-370-0470

http://www.universaladvertising.com

http://www.collegeadvertising.com

http://www.collegeclassifieds.com

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On Nov 29, 2006, at 5:28 PM, Tom Chambers wrote:

i run cf 1.51 on a windows NT 3.51 box with SQL server 6.5
sorry...had a 10 yr flashback  hehe

John Mason wrote:
That is correct, it is higher on the 64 bit systems. It's only in 32-bit
systems that the JVM limit goes up to 2 GB.

John
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Haygood
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:14 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF serving platform

I think its only that low on 32-bit Windows though (due to memory space
limitations). X64 Windows apps can reference up to 4 GB of memory (which
should allow more memory for the JVM instance)

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:34 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF serving platform

As a matter of performance, Solaris seems to be the best option.  On windows
 linux the max amount of memory available to a JVM instance is about
1.25GB.  That number goes up to 3GB on Solaris.  I'm not going to get into
the Sun conspiracy theories here, but that is the performance difference
I've seen.

ap


On Nov 28, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Anthony Mathis wrote:





For four years it was windows 2000 Advanced server.  Last year we decided to
try Linux (Ubuntu).  Coldfusion works better with Debian base linux, for me
anyway.  Been loving cf on linux ever since.

On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 20:11 -0500, Alex Pilson wrote:



I am looking at new opportunities and thought I would pose a question to the
CF community here. What seems to be the platform of choice for most CF
developers to serve from? Windows or Linux? Or something else?

Thank you for your time.




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[ACFUG Discuss] useful tools

2006-11-28 Thread Steven Ross

If you like service capture you might want to check out this tool for firefox:

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/966/

lets you watch requests and modify them before they are sent, very
useful for debugging flash apps.

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Re: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] useful tools

2006-11-28 Thread Steven Ross

Yeah I have firebug, it wont show you the requests coming out of flash
though... at least i don't see where it does that.

On 11/28/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If you like that, Steven, do also consider Firebug if you've not before:

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1843/

And for non-Firefox users, still another option like them (and also free) is
Fiddler: http://www.fiddlertool.com/fiddler/

All these are great tools for understanding what's going on between your
browser and the server, and useful not just for debugging Flash apps but
also Ajax, Flex, and even traditional web-based apps. I've been a fan and
advocate of them for a long time, and they've saved my bacon more than once.
:-)

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/

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Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] useful tools

If you like service capture you might want to check out this tool for
firefox:

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/966/

lets you watch requests and modify them before they are sent, very useful
for debugging flash apps.

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Re: RE: RE: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Blue Dragon

2006-11-23 Thread Steven Ross

Teddy made that sound harder than it is! Drop the mysql connector jar
in the proper cfmx lib directory and then specify your db like below.

CF Data Source Name (whatever you want)
JDBC URLjdbc:mysql://127.0.0.1:3306/dbname
Driver Classcom.mysql.jdbc.Driver
Driver Name (whatever you want)

On 11/22/06, Dusty Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






Being that this application is extreamly basic, I think I will just try the
one in CF admin and if I can't get it to work for some reason try the other.
Basically all this thing needs to do is insert one record into a single
table and then upload an image that associated with the data. I'm assuming I
need to handle the image upload with cfftp rather than cffile.



Thanks again for the replies.



Dusty

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy Payne
 Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:53 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: RE: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Blue Dragon




I would probably recommend using the drivers from mysql.org even for earlier
versions.  The JDBC drivers provided with CF work fine, but I noticed that
in my previous adventures in querying MySQL databases, that the JConnector
did offer better error messages and more compatibility.  The down side is
that you have to configure the application a little bit more with a
connection string.  The process is pretty well documented though.

 Teddy


On 11/22/06, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As for the version you need to check what is running if it is v5 you
 have to download the driver and call it through jdbc.

 On 11/22/06, Dusty Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ahhh  in this case the MySQL box is several states away :) 
probably
  be slow like this but it will only be used to do 1 insert query a day for
  just one record so I don't think the sluggishness will be too much of a
  problem. Thanks again for all the replies.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Justin
Haygood
  Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:09 PM
  To: discussion@acfug.org
  Subject: RE: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Blue Dragon
 
  I do this exact thing all the time, except the mysql server is on the
  same LAN as the cf application server :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Ross
  Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:31 PM
  To: discussion@acfug.org
  Subject: Re: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Blue Dragon
 
  You can certainly do that. You just need a user on the mysql box that
  will let you connect and the firewall has to be setup to let traffic
  in on 3306 (or whatever port your running mysql on).
 
  -Steven
 
  On 11/22/06, Dusty Hale  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   Teddy one thought though is maybe I run just this application on a
  shared
   server. Do you know if there is a way to access a remote MySQL
  database
   (one running on the linux server) with CF? Could an DSN be made on the
   shared server that could update the MySQL database which resides on a
  remote
   server on a different network?
  
  
  
   I have not worked with MySQL before but something tells me that I
  think I
   remember researching this once and determining it couldn't be done.
  
  
  
   Thanks for your previous reply and any suggestions you may have.
  
  
  
   Dusty
  
  

  
  
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy
  Payne
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 2:35 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Blue Dragon
  
  
  
   What about hosting the site on an application service provider?  You
  don't
   have to budget for the CF license then.  Is the client firm on the
  fact that
   the Linux server must house the site?
  
Teddy
  
  
   On 11/22/06, Dusty Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
   I have a new client I need to design a very simple app for and I would
   prefer to do it in cold fusion because I could do it fast and not have
  to
   charge much. The problem is that the dedicated server he has is a
  Linux
   server and does not have CF on it.
  
  
  
   Of course I know CF will run fine on a linux server but since there is
  no
   budget to purchase a license for it, I assumed I would need to rethink
  it
   and do this with PHP. However, then I though Blue Dragon maybe? Could
  anyone
   tell me if my thoughts are worth researching more? Will Blue Dragon
  allow me
   to develop my app with my local cf server then move to his server
  where I
   install Blue Dragon on it? Do you think I will run into headaches and
  issues
   with this approach.
  
  
  
   Thanks ahead of time for any advice I get.
  
  
  
   Dusty
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[ACFUG Discuss] cfhttp retrieving a file

2006-11-22 Thread Steven Ross

Hey all

I've got a page that is outputting a file (mp3 to be exact) I want to
hit that with cfhttp and output the data back to the browser as a
valid mp3 file. The reason why cfhttp is calling a cfm that serves a
mp3 is that I have to simulate what the external service is going to
do when it is developed so no questions about why im doing that! ; )

I tried this:

cfhttp url = http://localhost/servemp3.cfm; /
cfset thefile = cfhttp.fileContent 
cfcontent type = audio/mpeg 
CFSCRIPT
   writeOutput(toString(theFile));
/cfscript

and i tried this:
cfhttp url = http://localhost/servemp3.cfm; /
cfcontent type = audio/mpeg file=#cfhttp.fileContent# 



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[ACFUG Discuss] Re: cfhttp retrieving a file

2006-11-22 Thread Steven Ross

Is the answer i have to write it to disk first?

On 11/22/06, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey all

I've got a page that is outputting a file (mp3 to be exact) I want to
hit that with cfhttp and output the data back to the browser as a
valid mp3 file. The reason why cfhttp is calling a cfm that serves a
mp3 is that I have to simulate what the external service is going to
do when it is developed so no questions about why im doing that! ; )

I tried this:

cfhttp url = http://localhost/servemp3.cfm; /
cfset thefile = cfhttp.fileContent 
cfcontent type = audio/mpeg 
CFSCRIPT
writeOutput(toString(theFile));
/cfscript

and i tried this:
cfhttp url = http://localhost/servemp3.cfm; /
cfcontent type = audio/mpeg file=#cfhttp.fileContent# 



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Re: re[3]: [ACFUG Discuss] cfhttp retrieving a file

2006-11-22 Thread Steven Ross

Actually that isn't the scenario at all on this... we are streaming
these files in flash so the faster we can get them to the user the
faster it will start playing. Each box in this cluster has 32 GB of
ram and these are small files. Also caching isn't an option because we
aren't using sticky sessions on the cluster

I'll try the firebug thing.


On 11/22/06, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was just trying to take advantage of the vast ammount memory
on this box and avoiding the overhead of IO.

$0.02  I would argue that if a user is going to wait 30 seconds or more to download 
an mp3, it's not going to matter whether you spend two seconds to store the file on disk 
first. However, with a user having the ability to open up multiple windows and multiple 
users being able to hit your server, I would be concerned about every page request taking 
up 5MB (or whatever the mp3 file size is) of RAM. Not even considering the fact that it 
will be child's play to cache the request if it's a file, and much harder/expensive to do 
when you keep it in memory. /$0.02

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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Coldfusion MX 7.0.2 and Windows Vista Enterprise x86

2006-11-15 Thread Steven Ross

Yeah this boils down to the fact that you need the newer mod_jrun for
apache... FYI you have to compile it on anything other than windows. I
wrote up a blog post on how to do this if anyone is interested.


On 11/15/06, John Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

stop cfmx
remove wsconfgi jar
replace with new jar
start
run the java applet remove the current webserver configuration
add new configuration
restart apache
and it should work i can get tthe exact steps tonight if youd like that.


Mike Staver wrote:
 When you say remove the old configuration - you mean the wsconfig.jar
 file and the modules it creates? I used 7.0.2's wsconfig.jar file and
 the one from the hotfix to pull the modules out of, and neither worked
 for me on vista.

 John Lyons wrote:
 It works I am running 2.2 and cfmx 7.02 on my box right now.  you
 have to remove the old configuration and add a new one.


 Mike Staver wrote:
 I'd also like to add that after a few hours of banging my head on my
 desk with Apache 2.2, it does not appear that CFMX 7 on windows will
 work with Apache 2.2, even with this hotfix:

 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=8001e97

 They apparently fixed it for Linux/Unix, but the connector is still
 not working on Windows. No biggie for me though, I rolled back to
 Apache 2.0.59 and I now have CFMX7 running on Vista :)

 Thanks again Steven for hitting me over the head with a clue stick
 and reminding me of this option!

 Steven Ross wrote:
 If you cant figure it out you can always run apache

 On 11/14/06, Mike Staver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't think it's setup right.  Attached is a screen shot of what I
 see. I'm not sure what I should put here.

 Justin Haygood wrote:
  Do you have .cfm associated with the ColdFusion / JRun ISAPI
 handler
  and/or CGI process? (not sure which is used for CFM)?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
 Staver
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:35 PM
  To: discussion@acfug.org
  Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Coldfusion MX 7.0.2 and Windows Vista
  Enterprise x86
 
  Thanks for the input - I thought about doing that as well
 yesterday, so
  I made the change today.  However, now IIS just serves up the
 page for
  download rather than parsing it with CFMX.  I have a feeling I'm
 SOL
  until an update gets released, if one does at all.  I'll be using
  virtual machines for this stuff I think until then.
 
  Damon wrote:
  I do not have Vista and this may be a log shot but you can try
 to add
  a MIME
  type in IIS (IIS 6 you right click the computer name in the IIS
  manager and
  go to properties, not sure for IIS 7) of .CFM for extension and
  cfm-application/octet-stream for mime type. This should at
 least let
  IIS
  serve up the cfm.
 
  Just a guess
  -Damon Ledet
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
  Staver
  Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:41 PM
  To: discussion@acfug.org
  Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Coldfusion MX 7.0.2 and Windows Vista
  Enterprise
  x86
 
  I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that nobody has
 tried
  this
  yet, but I have the final release of Windows Vista Enterprise
 that was
  released to manufacturing running on my workstation now. It's a
  completely
  fresh install, and I attempted to install CFMX 7.0.2 on it to
 run with
  IIS
  7.  As you might assume, it doesn't work.  I'm running the
  x86 version, rather than the x64 in the hopes more things work
 with
  it.
I've been wrong with that guess mostly for a lot of apps.
 
  Below is what IIS spits out:
 
 
 

  --
  Server Error in Application Default Web Site
  HTTP Error 404.3 - Not Found
 
  Description: The page you are requesting cannot be served
 because of
  the
  Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (MIME) map policy that is
  configured
  on the Web server. The page you requested has a file name
 extension
  that is
  not recognized, and is not allowed.
 
  Error Code: 0x80070032
 
  Notification: ExecuteRequestHandler
 
  Module: StaticFileModule
 
  Requested URL: http://127.0.0.1:80/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm
 
  Physical Path: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\index.cfm
 
  Logon User: Anonymous
 
  Logon Method: Anonymous
 
  Handler: StaticFile
 
  Most likely causes:
 
   * It is possible that a handler mapping is missing. By
 default,
  the
  static file handler processes all content.
   * The feature you are trying to use may not be installed.
   * The appropriate MIME map is not enabled for the Web site or
  application. (Warning: Do not create a MIME map for content
 that users
  should not download, such as .ASPX pages or .config files.)
 
  What you can try:
 
   * In system.webServer/handlers:
   * Ensure that the expected handler for the current page is
  mapped.
   * Pay careful attention to preconditions

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla

2006-11-08 Thread Steven Ross

There is a good link off of fortas post mentioned above on what it
means. Its very thorough.

http://www.hecker.org/mozilla/adobe-mozilla-and-tamarin

On 11/8/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Coming back to the Flash scripting engine code.  What's the big
picture with this?  What could this do in the Mozilla browser?  Shall
we have a way to write AS for SWF files generating on the fly in that
specific browser?

I don't know how this is useful to Mozilla.

Precia



On 11/7/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Adobe has donated the Flash scripting engine code to Mozilla. The
 announcement was made at the Web 2.0 conference.

 Would someone enlighten me on the big picture of this gesture.

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Re: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Best Practice for Assembling Pages

2006-11-07 Thread Steven Ross

Im not sure how the latest version of contribute is but, in dealing
with templates that are calling includes it can be a pain because
Contribute wants the user to enter the page title. It can cause a
double title to appear if you are say setting the title in a variable
and then contribute sticks it in as well. Just something to keep in
mind when you build DW templates and use them in Contribute. I think
the templates are ok but can be overrated.

On 11/7/06, Dusty Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






Also your number 2 approach will work good with Contribute and prevent the
client from being able to edit the include areas in Contribute (unless they
go to the include file in contribute to make the edit). Again can't think of
a reason to use the DW template if you use includes.



Dusty

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:59 AM
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 Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Best Practice for Assembling Pages




Clarke:



I have successfully used your #2 approach and by using the includes, it will
prevent your client from being able to edit the include areas which I think
is what you want. I personally think this is much better than going the DW
template route. BTW I don't see why you would been the DW template if you
use the includes but that is just me. Hope this info helps in your decesion
making.



Dusty

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clarke Bishop
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:29 AM
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 Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Best Practice for Assembling Pages




Did my questions not make sense to anyone or was everyone just feeling sorry
for me sending messages out on Saturday night?



If this is confusing, please let me know.



   Clarke


 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clarke Bishop
 Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:01 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Best Practice for Assembling Pages

I am building a simple information-oriented site. Each page will have the
same header, footer, right-hand column and a content area. Ideally, I'd like
my customer to be able to edit the content area, but nothing else.



I'd like to ask all of you about the best practice for assembling the page.
Here are the ways I'm thinking about:



1. Use a Dreamweaver template and/or Dreamweaver library. I've done this
before, so I know it works.



2. Use Dreamweaver templates as in #1, but cfinclude the header, footer,
etc.



3. Use onRequestStart in Application.cfc to cfinclude the header, footer,
etc.



4. Some other more CF-oriented approach, but hopefully not FuseBox



I like method #1 or #2, because then I can use Contribute and allow my
customer to edit certain content.



Right now, the site will only use the most minimal CF for a Contact Form,
etc. Still, I want to get this right from the start.



Thanks for any ideas!



   Clarke


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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla

2006-11-07 Thread Steven Ross

I think the above response is drawing some pretty large conclusions
that aren't based on any substantiated facts. Here is an article
concerning the move
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2168153/adobe-donates-flash-code

article content below
--

Adobe has donated its ActionScript Virtual Machine code to the Mozilla
Foundation, kicking off a new open source project dubbed Tamarin.

Tamarin will be a component of SpiderMonkey, the core JavaScript
engine for Mozilla's Firefox browser.

Adobe's ActionScript offers a scripting language for the company's
Flash player. Flash technology is best known for its use by online
video websites such as Youtube and Google Video. The language is
similar to JavaScript and Microsoft's JScript.

Adobe and Mozilla expect that the donation will speed up the creation
of a standards based scripting language, promote the creation of
online applications and increase their performance on Firefox.

Scripting languages are at the core of today's Web2.0 applications.
The Ajax technology that forms the basis of Gmail and Flickr for
instance is an acronym for Asynchronous JavaScript and XML.

The Adobe contribution is the largest code donation that Mozilla has
received in its 3 year history.

On 11/7/06, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Among other things, it means that when the time comes (relatively
soon), Adobe will most likely wash their hands clean of ColdFusion via the
open source route as well, rather than by trying to dump it on another
company.

But it most likely also signifies that Adobe realizes its Flash-centric
development model and tools cannot keep pace with Microsoft's XAML-based
offerings.  When you compare the two, Flash-based development looks like an
unwieldy cobbled together tinkertoy.  And there just isn't enough Adobe
funding available to change that in any significant way, so they give it up
to the people and let them join in for free.



Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee



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Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla

Adobe has donated the Flash scripting engine code to Mozilla. The
announcement was made at the Web 2.0 conference.

Would someone enlighten me on the big picture of this gesture.

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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: swf decompiler

2006-11-06 Thread Steven Ross

this came up in my gmail... heh

http://www.sothink.com/product/flashdecompiler/index.htm


On 11/6/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

2.0

On 11/6/06, Bryan Tidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What version of Actionscript does it have to support? Is that known?
 Bryan

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 Does anyone know of a good SWF decompiler?

 TIA,
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[ACFUG Discuss] CFCUnit configuration tip

2006-10-25 Thread Steven Ross

This may seem obvious but, for those running CFCUnit this tip may help
(if it isn't that obvious!)

We were doing a bit of testing and found that we had to write all of
this setup code in each of our tests... ie test variables etc that
each test required so our test had something like:


cfset this.AccountFriendlyName = Joe Bob's Home Line/
cfset this.AccountIdentity = joebob42

cffunction name=setUp returntype=void access=private
cfinvoke component=com.Application 
method=onApplicationStart
returnvariable=tst
cfset this.Utility = CreateObject(component, com.Utility)
cfset this.imap = CreateObject(component, com.Imap) /
/cffunction


Now that got annoying having to set this up for each of our tests
because I found that we were doing a bit of overlap (ie we had to set
this stuff up sometimes twice depending on which components we were
testing (service  DAO).

So I wrote another component (call it SetupTests.cfc) it extends the
testcase component (required for cfcunit) it does ALL the
configuration and calls setup and teardown then all of our test cases
extend the SetupTests.cfc so now all our configuration lives in one
CFC so we are sure that when our tests are running they are all using
the same variables. Ah, CF's CFC architecture is very nice indeed.

I am going to write up a blog post about this with a little more detail later.

-Steven

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[ACFUG Discuss] mac flex builder

2006-10-25 Thread Steven Ross

in case anyone missed this...

flex builder for the mac beta:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexbuilder2/

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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] mac flex builder

2006-10-25 Thread Steven Ross

Hm, when will CS3 be released? hehe... I'm sure they will give you an answer.

On 10/25/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yeah, they are passing around a USB with that for all the Mac Users at Adobe
MAX this week.
Is there anything someone would like to ask an Adobe member?  Several ACFUG
members are at the conference that could seek out answers.

Precia


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 in case anyone missed this...

 flex builder for the mac beta:

 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexbuilder2/

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[ACFUG Discuss] len() question

2006-10-24 Thread Steven Ross

How do I force Len(somestring) to return the length including the line
breaks? Is there a way to do this without parsing the string for the
breaks and then adding that number to the Len() function?

thanks,

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[ACFUG Discuss] Re: len() question

2006-10-24 Thread Steven Ross

nevermind aparently this is an issue with cfsavecontent not saving
line breaks...

On 10/24/06, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How do I force Len(somestring) to return the length including the line
breaks? Is there a way to do this without parsing the string for the
breaks and then adding that number to the Len() function?

thanks,

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[ACFUG Discuss] cfhttp and SSL

2006-10-24 Thread Steven Ross

Anyone used cfhttp with SSL?

having a really fun time trying to set this up and get it going... i
installed my certificate (at least i think i did it correctly)... i
had to convert it from a pem file and then i installed it.

Hoever now i am getting this in CF when i try to cfhttp with ssl:

ErrorDetail: I/O Exception: peer not authenticated





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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfhttp and SSL

2006-10-24 Thread Steven Ross

We got it finally... yeah the certs were a pain... I'm going to write
up a blog post about the experience. Oh and fyi aparently there is a
bug in java 1.4.x that your key cant be larger than 2048.

On 10/24/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Verifying the remote cert provides authentication of the remote
server.  So my guess would be that you didn't install the appropriate
root certs correctly.

-dhs

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opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.
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On Oct 24, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Steven Ross wrote:

 Anyone used cfhttp with SSL?

 having a really fun time trying to set this up and get it going... i
 installed my certificate (at least i think i did it correctly)... i
 had to convert it from a pem file and then i installed it.

 Hoever now i am getting this in CF when i try to cfhttp with ssl:

 ErrorDetail: I/O Exception: peer not authenticated





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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfhttp and SSL

2006-10-24 Thread Steven Ross

Yeah it was a configuration issue on the cert and converting into
javas weird format... once we got it installed cf was spitting out
useful errors from java (at least).

Thanks for the info dean... I don't know why a 4k key was generated to
begin with but, good to know a 2k one is plenty.


On 10/24/06, Max Immelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Steven,

I had issues with using a shared cert, but it like you are not sharing a
cert. The prob. i had was that the application variables were not being
passed on when entering a https page. So I had to come up with a work
around. but again, I don't think you are sharing a cert.

Max

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Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] cfhttp and SSL


 Anyone used cfhttp with SSL?

 having a really fun time trying to set this up and get it going... i
 installed my certificate (at least i think i did it correctly)... i
 had to convert it from a pem file and then i installed it.

 Hoever now i am getting this in CF when i try to cfhttp with ssl:

 ErrorDetail: I/O Exception: peer not authenticated





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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ajax isn't just some guy from way back when...

2006-10-19 Thread Steven Ross

Go get firebug for firefox if you dont have that installed... it will
show you what your ajax is doing.

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1843/

On 10/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ok I know I am missing a piece of the  Ajax/webservice puzzle in the below
code can anyone spot what I am doing wrong.


[BEGIN GEEKISH WRITINGS]
script language=javascript
function processReqChange() {
// only if req shows loaded
if (xmlhttp.readyState == 4) {
// only if OK
if (xmlhttp.status == 200) {
// ...processing statements go here...
document.bob.innerHTML = xmlhttp.responseText;
} else {
alert(There was a problem retrieving the XML data:\n +
xmlhttp.statusText);
}
}
}
function sendData()
{
xmlhttp=null
// code for Mozilla, etc.
if (window.XMLHttpRequest)
{
xmlhttp=new XMLHttpRequest()
}
// code for IE
else if (window.ActiveXObject)
{
xmlhttp=new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP)
}
if (xmlhttp!=null)
{
var frmInput = document.form.searchfield.value;
xmlhttp.open(POST, http://127.0.0.1/com/googlemini;, true);
xmlhttp.setRequestHeader(Content-Type, text/xml; 
charset=utf-8);

xmlhttp.setRequestHeader('SOAPAction','http://127.0.0.1/com/googlemini');
xmlhttp.send('varQ='+'needles');
xmlhttp.onreadystatechange = processReqChange;
  }
else
  {
alert(Your browser does not support XMLHTTP.)
  }
}
/script


form name=form 
input type=text name=searchfield /
input type=button name=myclick value=go onclick=sendData(); /
/form
div id=bob

/div
!---
This works...
cfscript
myObj =
createobject(webservice,http://127.0.0.1/com/googlemini.cfc?wsdl;);
myObjVal = myObj.PostQuery(consent form,);
/cfscript
cfdump var=#myObjVal# /
---

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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ajax isn't just some guy from way back when...

2006-10-19 Thread Steven Ross

sorry i didnt read all of your email charlie... I see you mentioned firebug.

On 10/19/06, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Go get firebug for firefox if you dont have that installed... it will
show you what your ajax is doing.

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1843/

On 10/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ok I know I am missing a piece of the  Ajax/webservice puzzle in the below
 code can anyone spot what I am doing wrong.


 [BEGIN GEEKISH WRITINGS]
 script language=javascript
 function processReqChange() {
 // only if req shows loaded
 if (xmlhttp.readyState == 4) {
 // only if OK
 if (xmlhttp.status == 200) {
 // ...processing statements go here...
 document.bob.innerHTML = xmlhttp.responseText;
 } else {
 alert(There was a problem retrieving the XML data:\n +
 xmlhttp.statusText);
 }
 }
 }
 function sendData()
 {
 xmlhttp=null
 // code for Mozilla, etc.
 if (window.XMLHttpRequest)
 {
 xmlhttp=new XMLHttpRequest()
 }
 // code for IE
 else if (window.ActiveXObject)
 {
 xmlhttp=new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP)
 }
 if (xmlhttp!=null)
 {
 var frmInput = document.form.searchfield.value;
 xmlhttp.open(POST, http://127.0.0.1/com/googlemini;, true);
 xmlhttp.setRequestHeader(Content-Type, text/xml; 
charset=utf-8);
 
xmlhttp.setRequestHeader('SOAPAction','http://127.0.0.1/com/googlemini');
 xmlhttp.send('varQ='+'needles');
 xmlhttp.onreadystatechange = processReqChange;
   }
 else
   {
 alert(Your browser does not support XMLHTTP.)
   }
 }
 /script


 form name=form 
 input type=text name=searchfield /
 input type=button name=myclick value=go onclick=sendData(); /
 /form
 div id=bob

 /div
 !---
 This works...
 cfscript
 myObj =
 createobject(webservice,http://127.0.0.1/com/googlemini.cfc?wsdl;);
 myObjVal = myObj.PostQuery(consent form,);
 /cfscript
 cfdump var=#myObjVal# /
 ---

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Re: Re: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cf 7 bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Steven Ross

please don't respond to the obvious security concerns in the code
below... im aware!

On 10/17/06, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

cfscript

adminObj = createObject(component,cfide.adminapi.administrator);
adminObj.login(cfide_password);  //cfide_password is set in cfide.cfm

// Instantiate the runtime object.
myObj = createObject(component,cfide.adminapi.runtime);

// clear cache
myObj.clearTrustedCache();

/cfscript

On 10/17/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steven, are you just turning off the trusted cache? Or actually flushing the
 template cache as well? Show us the Admin API call you're using.

 /charlie
 http://www.carehart.org/blog/

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:41 PM
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 Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] cf 7 bug?

 Anyone using trusted cache and clearing it with the admin API? If so do your
 CFC's still remain? We are trying to find out if this is a bug or not.

 Thanks,

 Steven

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Re: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cf 7 bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Steven Ross

cfscript

adminObj = createObject(component,cfide.adminapi.administrator);
adminObj.login(cfide_password);  //cfide_password is set in cfide.cfm

// Instantiate the runtime object.
myObj = createObject(component,cfide.adminapi.runtime);

// clear cache
myObj.clearTrustedCache();

/cfscript

On 10/17/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Steven, are you just turning off the trusted cache? Or actually flushing the
template cache as well? Show us the Admin API call you're using.

/charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/

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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:41 PM
To: ACFUG ColdFusion Discussion
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] cf 7 bug?

Anyone using trusted cache and clearing it with the admin API? If so do your
CFC's still remain? We are trying to find out if this is a bug or not.

Thanks,

Steven

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Re: RE: RE: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cf 7 bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Steven Ross

Ok I gotcha, thanks Charlie. I'm not sure why this is happening to
them. I can ask about  a SVN issue but, I don't think that is what is
going on.

My original question was concerning code not showing up on an existing
server after they use the admin api to clear the trusted cache. Ie:
they put new code into prod, clear the cache and only the cfm files
are reloaded not the cfc's. A co-worker tested this on his windows box
and therein might lie the problem. This site is running on Solaris in
production. I thought by what you said that the clearing of the
trusted cache will only remove the cfm files and not the cfc's? I will
ask about the class files being saved.

This isn't something they can really fiddle with in production since
the 9 machine cluster is serving some serious traffic.

-Steven


On 10/17/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, I want to be clear: you say they don't want to restart the server, but
I assume you mean when it comes time to push new code. That's not what I was
referring to when I talked about restarting the server. I was referring just
to a one-time turning off of the save class files option. And even then, I
realize that there are good reasons for it to be enabled in production. I
was just proposing it as a work-around for the problem you were hitting.

But then you also mention that your guy is proposing using the precompiled
templates option. That will then require use of the class files.

As for his assertion that someone restarted the server whenever they did a
push, that seems pretty harsh. With the new admin API ability to clear the
template cache, it would seem no longer required. (And since doing that
didn't solve your problem, I'd say that those are different points of
concern.)

In fact, since you're using CF 7, you may want to investigate this useful
article from Adobe on causing uploaded files to auto-trigger a cache flush:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/cacheclear.html

But is your original point (about a changed CFC not showing up in a request)
related to deployment of code to a new server? If so, then I recommend again
that you consider the point I'd raised (about the possibility that the file
date on the uploaded server is newer than the file date of the file being
uploaded, as can happen if you use source control and roll back to an
earlier version on your dev/staging server.)

Hope that's all helpful.

/charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Ross
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:50 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: RE: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cf 7 bug?

Yeah the point was that they didn't want to restart the server. I found this
article regarding how MM (I mean Adobe) handles deployment of new code into
their cluster and it gives a good tip on speeding up some of the initial
compilation:

(sorry dont have the url)

Given both Simon's and Bob's comments, I got curious as to how our web team
manages deployments to the Adobe website. Vijay Shah, who used to work on
the CF engineering team, manages the group here. This is what he had to say:

The Adobe site is run on a cluster of servers, all of which have the trusted
cache switch turned on. Every time a new version of the site is to be
deployed, the servers are brought down one at a time, the new set of
precompiled templates pushed in, and then restarted.

Note that the web team pushes out precompiled templates to the production
servers. This is another technique that you could adopt if you want to save
the one-time cost of compilation in production environments. This is
especially important for servers that function under high loads - when a
server is restarted and brought back into the cluster it will brought under
load very suddenly. The cost of simultaneously having to compile a large
number of different templates due to sudden load could bring a server to its
knees! In case you're wondering how to precompile templates, see the
documentation for cfcompile here.

On 10/17/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, yes, that is clearing the cache. (There is also an available API
 call to turn the trusted cache on and off, which would be different.)

 Indeed, the name of this method is a misnomer: it doesn't clear the
 trusted cache but instead just clears the template cache. The
 trusted option simply controls whether CF should look for newly
 updated files before loading them if it already has them in the cache.

 All that said, what's the problem you're experiencing? Is it that you
 change CFCs and reload, but don't see them? That may instead be caused
 by problems in the underlying Java class files. If you want to confirm
 it, turn off the save class files option in the Admin, and restart
 CF (to be safe), then request your file. Now, that alone may cause it
 to pick up the changed files, but you want to go a step further and
 change the CFC again and reload

Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cf 7 bug?

2006-10-17 Thread Steven Ross

Thanks for the info, I think it is an environment issue... as it is
working as expected on my local box and from another's windows
workstation. I'll check the path variable to see if that can help me
out.

On 10/17/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You ask:

I thought by what you said that the clearing of the trusted cache
will only remove the cfm files and not the cfc's?

Well, I don't think imply any difference in the handling of CFCs vs CFM
files regarding the trusted cache, but if that's how you read it, no there's
no difference.

That said, though it's certainly true that if the CFCs instances are stored
in shared variable scopes (session, application), then that would explain
them not being picked up.

Here's another possibility: the CFC may be being picked up from somewhere
other than where you expect. Recall that CFCs are called using an order of
searching which (I think) is the local directory, the web root, any mapped
(CF Admin mappings) directories, the customtags directory, and any added
custom tags directories. If it finds one earlier in that search order, that
would keep it seeing the one you may be changing. Just a thought.

Check the path variable returned in the structure when you call
getmetadata() against the CFC instance, to know for sure.

/charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Ross
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:23 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cf 7 bug?

Ok I gotcha, thanks Charlie. I'm not sure why this is happening to them. I
can ask about  a SVN issue but, I don't think that is what is going on.

My original question was concerning code not showing up on an existing
server after they use the admin api to clear the trusted cache. Ie:
they put new code into prod, clear the cache and only the cfm files are
reloaded not the cfc's. A co-worker tested this on his windows box and
therein might lie the problem. This site is running on Solaris in
production. I thought by what you said that the clearing of the trusted
cache will only remove the cfm files and not the cfc's? I will ask about the
class files being saved.

This isn't something they can really fiddle with in production since the 9
machine cluster is serving some serious traffic.

-Steven



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[ACFUG Discuss] cf 7 bug?

2006-10-16 Thread Steven Ross

Anyone using trusted cache and clearing it with the admin API? If so
do your CFC's still remain? We are trying to find out if this is a bug
or not.

Thanks,

Steven

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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] css - a little off topic

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Re: Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] css - a little off topic

2006-10-04 Thread Steven Ross

I didn't mean to insinuate that IE 7 is coming out so eveyone will
upgrade... i was just making the point that if you intend to future
proof your css build for the standard and work backwards because
eventually the non compliant browsers will die off and (hopefully) the
compliant ones will take over. If you do it the other way around you
are just going to end up fixing it later.

On 10/4/06, allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


IE6 won't be going anywhere for a long time - do you really think corporate
america will upgrade the minute 7 is final?

Who is running win2k in 2006? :)

- Original Message 
From: Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: discussion@acfug.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2006 8:55:55 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] css - a little off topic


Yeah i follow this same track... easier for me to get it right
(epecially since ie 6 will go away at some point) and support the
standards then hack backwards to get IE compatibility.



On 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, when it comes to CSS, IE stinks.  You can write relatively standard
 code in Firefox (heck even Safari), and standards are good.  But since the
 majority of people choose IE, you then have to come up with
fixes.  Probably
 more time consuming, but I start in FF, to get more standard oriented
code.
  Then I go to IE to make things work there.  Usually cursing how bad it's
 standards support is.  Bias, no.

 mcg







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 Dan - I have to disagree with you :) As someone who has been doing html
 since it started, my advice is always to either:
  a. work in IE because if you get it right there, you can get it right
 anywhere
  b. check both at the same time.

  Checking Firefox only will cause more time/work on you in the long run.

  Of course, as my first professor said, there are 1,000 ways to utica. :)

  Also, technically to save a line of code - you could bring the
margin-left
 and right into one line of code. And you could also do:

  margin: top right bottom left

  so a typical default is:

  margin: 0 auto auto auto

  -- Allen
  http://www.htmlcenter.com
  http://www.centernetworks.com

 - Original Message 
  From: Dan Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: discussion@acfug.org
  Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2006 4:51:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] css - a little off topic

 Dusty,



 Mary Catherine is right about adding to the CSS definition text-align:
 center;  (I was a little too quick in my reply)



 #MyDiv

 {

 margin-left: auto;
  margin-right: auto;

 }



 Body

 {

 text-align: center;

 }







 In general remember Google is your friend.  Just Google for CSS Center



 Next, remember you can always View/Page Source for any web page.  You see
a
 site that uses CSS, view the page source, if the style sheet is linked
 just copy the path, it will be in the head section, paste this back into
 your browser and you'll be looking at their CSS for that page/site.  Study
 it to see how they positioned and styled elements, etc.



 The biggest headache you'll have is with IE. The problem here is IE often
 follows its own rules and not strict W3C guidelines. So you'll do a page,
 developing with IE and think GREAT it works, only to see the site with
 Netscape or Firefox and it has blown up.  This has been my personal
nemesis.
  Until I SWITCHED TO FIREFOX.  It really is a better browser.  Now I
develop
 my CSS using Firefox and then tweak it to work with IE's quirks.



 Good luck,



 Dan Kaufman



  


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:12 PM
  To: discussion@acfug.org
  Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] css - a little off topic




  I believe that you have to use margin: auto (or at least right and left)
 for it to play nice in IE.  You may also have to put a container around
your
 div with text-align:center.  Or you can add that to your BODY tag. (I'm a
 little rusty on this myself)

  mcg








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  Does anyone know how to center a div using css? I should know this and
 maybe just forgot. Google search only produces reference to the text-align
 property. I want to center the box on the page not the content inside the
 box. For example

  div id=mydiv

  Hello World

  /div

  ---

  /* css code */

  #mydiv {  What goes here to make the div box centered on the page.  }



  Many thanks,

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Re: Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Client? Session?

2006-10-02 Thread Steven Ross

Yeah same here and where is the info that says a CFC can't access the
client scope?

On 10/2/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am curious as well.  The example of not storing being being able to
effectively store a value or service object is a limitation to be sure, but
even then that can be worked around with a facade.

Teddy


 On 10/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Just out of curiosity, why would you say Don't use the Client scope!?

 Thanks,

 Allen


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy Allen
 Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:30 AM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Client? Session?

 Don't use the Client scope! There are only a few reasons to use Client
scope and I would still think long and hard about it after having maintained
an application that was almost purely Client scope for user state.  I think
you should avoid the client scope unless you have a real and hard
requirement that you absolutely can't lose session data in the event of a
server failure. I admit, it is kind of nice to still have all of your user
sessions when you restart CF and that benefited our applications in some
cases. However, I still don't think the benefits for Client scope are not
worth it. Sticky sessions are OK in a load balanced situation. You may get
some uneven clumping of clients in some cases, but in reality it turns out
not to be a big deal. Playing with WDDX and the overheads involved in that
and the pain of keeping track of the serialization state of your data just
isn't worth it.

 You can't even serialize a CFC with WDDX, but they will happily live in
the session scope. If you do use client scope make sure you abstract it with
a good layer around it so that what scope you use is transparent to your
application so that you can change it in the future without your application
noticing. Look to the Facade design pattern for that.

 Jeremy


 On 9/27/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Allen made a good point about WDDX.  I tend to overlook CFWDDX.
 
 
  cfwddx action = cfml2wddx input = #session# output=client.foo
 
  cfdump var=#client.foo# can dump your session into foo variable
stored into the client scope.
 
  Your result in the DB would look similar to:
  foo=wddxPacket version#='1.0'header/datastruct type#='
coldfusion.runtime.MemorySessionScope'var
name#='cftoken'string88107569/string/varvar
name#='urltoken'stringCFID#=7101amp;CFTOKEN#=88107569/string/varvar
name#='cfid'string7101/string/varvar
name#='sessionid'stringTESTAPP_7101_88107569/string/var/struct/data/wddxPacket#
 
  Teddy
 
  On 9/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
   Just as an aside - you can still store complex structures in client
variables but you'll have to wddx them into a string and then store them
into the client variable.  Also, if you do this and you have your client
variables stored in the database, you'll want to make sure your datasource
is enabled to retrieve BLOB's without the 64k limit.
  
   One other thing, if you're running on MX in JRUN configuration (not
standalone), you can share the sessions between servers (if I remember
right).  J2EE has clustering built in and I believe it supports the
equivalent of a session state server.
  
   Allen
  
  
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   Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:22 AM
   To: discussion@acfug.org
   Subject: Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Client? Session?
  
  
   In general it seems to me that the rule is that once a user is on a
server, they are on the same server.  Define complex data.  I potentially
see structures and possibly an occasional object in the shared scope, but
honestly I don't know yet.  We don't officially have any code written.
  
   mcg
  
  
  
  
  
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   Yeah it depends on how you want your requests routed... it is my
   understanding that if you want the machines to round robin each
   request then you need to do client variables, if you don't care and
   you just want users to stay on one server then you can use sessions.
  
   On 9/26/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you looking to store complex data in your shared scope?  If so,
you need
some sort of sticky session solution.  If you are looking to store
simple
data, using the datasource option of client variable storeage would
make it
easier to switch over between servers.
   
Teddy
   
   
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 I'm a little confused as to what scope of variables to use in our
situation.  We have a primary server and a 'backup' server in case

Re: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] New user question

2006-10-02 Thread Steven Ross

Can you get CF to connect to sqlite? I've seen some folks do this with
rails but, it has a built in webserver so that definately opens up a
whole realm of possibilities...

http://www.sqlite.org/

On 10/2/06, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Yep, honestly that is not a good excuse. Well we looked around and couldn't
find anything...basically they were being lazy. What about now? Is Camden's
not good enough? I sometimes wonder what people are thinking. If that excuse
flew at Adobe then franky that's pretty sad.

John



 
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heehee.  There was a thread on this a bit back on teh flexcoders list.
IIRC, the excuse was that there was no good CF based Wiki software at the
time.  You'd think from a marketeering perspective, they would have whipped
one up eh?

DK


On 10/2/06, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Why Adobe? Why? Why build a wiki using php and not your own product?



 
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 When is the delivery date?  If you have time to consider this, look into
Adobe's Apollo.

 Apollo is a cross-OS runtime that allows developers to leverage their
existing web development skills (Flash, Flex, HTML, Ajax) to build and
deploy desktop RIA's.

 http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Apollo

 Precia


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  All,
 
  Just joined the user group today. I have been a CF developer since 2000.
 
  I need to find out if anyone had built or knows how to build an
online/offline application. Something like a thin client that the user
installs. When working offline the data is saved locally and then synced
when the user is online again.
 
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[ACFUG Discuss] regex / quotedvaluelist question

2006-09-28 Thread Steven Ross

Trying to find out if this is possible using regex? Would I need to
use backreferences to accomplish this? I'd like to search the
following string:

cfset string = [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and produce this:

'[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

The reason is that i want to use it in an IN clause... I thought i
might be able to use QuotedValueList but, looks like that wont work...
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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Client? Session?

2006-09-26 Thread Steven Ross

Yeah it depends on how you want your requests routed... it is my
understanding that if you want the machines to round robin each
request then you need to do client variables, if you don't care and
you just want users to stay on one server then you can use sessions.

On 9/26/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are you looking to store complex data in your shared scope?  If so, you need
some sort of sticky session solution.  If you are looking to store simple
data, using the datasource option of client variable storeage would make it
easier to switch over between servers.

Teddy


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 I'm a little confused as to what scope of variables to use in our
situation.  We have a primary server and a 'backup' server in case the
primary fails.  Now that is the current situation.  Eventually the backup
will be replaced with a better machine and the load will be balanced a
little more evenly.   Currently the balancing is done via Resonate software
(and no one seems to like it).  As far as 100% failover, I really don't see
that as a necessity, these aren't banking applications.  Also these servers
don't talk to each other that I know of.

 TIA

 Mary-Catherine

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[ACFUG Discuss] CF and symlinks

2006-09-25 Thread Steven Ross

Hi all I'm trying to get my box to follow symlinks... for some reason
this is working fine in apache but when you try to hit a coldfusion
resource it fails. Anyone dealt with this in apache/coldfusion and
have it working?

just curious what I'm doing wrong.

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Re: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Spawning threads in Coldfusion: making my webapp run faster

2006-09-13 Thread Steven Ross

Isn't the nature of CF synchronous (when it comes to page requests)?
So regardless of the order in which you execute these things each one
will be executed one at a time on the java stack (FILO - first in last
out) think stacking plates on one of those buffet lines - that's the
way the java stack behaves

It may have the appearance of multi threaded but, I doubt it will
speed anything up in reality. It may look faster but, you still have
to wait for all those things to finish before you can do anything with
them. So multithreaded its not if that is the case.

Ive done only a few multithreaded apps (and they were not complex mind
you) in java and I'm not sure how CF behaves but when you do this you
may create more of a problem for yourself because you are increasing
the number of requests per user per page (if multiple users hit this
app).

Just some things to think about.

Here is the link to the java tutorial on threads... might be a little
more helpful than the javadoc link above:
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/essential/concurrency/procthread.html

On 9/13/06, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I can't speak to the difference between regular frames and iframes, but you got 
the idea I had. I'm assuming the cfhttp part of CF will attempt to load all 
those (i)frames at the same time and open up multiple connections. I also 
assume that much of the wait you're experiencing is due to the remote server 
processing your request and not your server working hard.
Let us know if it worked!
/m



 On 9/8/06, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As a low-tech solution, could you write a cfm page with frames that calls other cfm 
pages in those frames and then cfhttp the top page?
 /m

Intriguing idea... :-)

So let's talk about this one... I can create one cfm template that has
multiple iframes in it... each iframe would would essentially be a
thread I want to spawn, right?

Furthermore, each iframe would just be another cfm template, but it
has code to go do work (in my case, go find the price of a book), and
then save the information to a database.

When the page is done loading, all the information will be saved to
the database AND, supposedly, this would all run faster because each
iframe would be doing its work at the same time as the other iframes.

Is the logic correct here?  Would the iframes really be doing their
work at the same time?  (Or should I use traditional frames?)

Thoughts?

Thanks!
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Re: Re: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Tagging example in CF

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[ACFUG Discuss] converting wav files

2006-09-12 Thread Steven Ross

Hey all, I have a cfc (that is really just a wrapper for java) and it
is pulling some data down and writing out a wav file. I'd like to
either have coldfusion or java convert that file to an mp3 (or
anything else that can be natively played by flash).

Anyone know of a solution for this (I've searched the web a bit and
haven't come up with much).

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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Establishing an email server

2006-09-07 Thread Steven Ross

You could always test that theory out by just turning on smtp on your
local box and trying to send mail. If you can then you probably wont
have to worry about it.

On 9/6/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My guess is they do not allow you to deploy your own email server.
And firewall rules usually block unsanctioned email servers from
making outbound connections...

-dhs


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On Sep 6, 2006, at 3:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ** If the failing email server successfully accepts mail from CF but
 never sends, then CF will have no way of knowing to use the backup
 server.

 Thanks, I'll check with the email admin on this one.


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 We depend on an email server that is not under our control.  More
 often
 than we would like, the email server is down, effecting several of our
 applications that depend on email to complete a user request.  The
 project officer has asked if we can establish our own email server.
 ** I'm with John, install an SMTP server on the CF server. Depends on
 your OS as to how/what to install.

 On a related matter, the ColdFusion administrator allows us to specify
 backup email servers, which I have done.  However, this feature
 doesn't
 work, and the email administrator said it probably won't work for
 reasons that I can't recall.  Anyone have experience successfully
 failing over to a backup mail server?
 ** If the failing email server successfully accepts mail from CF but
 never sends, then CF will have no way of knowing to use the backup
 server.

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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Speeding up execution time against 2.3 m records

2006-09-07 Thread Steven Ross

Would that still be the reason for the huge slowdown between php and
CF? I would think there would be something else there causing that...
just curious.

On 9/7/06, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 9/7/06, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does this not accomplish the same thing?

Heh - I accidentally deleted what I put here, but it was essentially a
subselect.  A self join as Dean suggested also might work.

The key is just to minimise the data MySQL and CF have to shuttle back
and forth and keep any larger datasets inside the MySQL machine.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] jrun and adobe

2006-09-01 Thread Steven Ross

odd... indeed maybe they are just changing directions with it.

On 8/31/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=b8f2bf16pss=rss_jrun_b8f2bf16
I'm not intending to spread FUD on this, but I've never seen a technote like
this from the old macromedia.   odd.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Feeling a little SPRY

2006-08-24 Thread Steven Ross
Wow that IS ugly... sorry all I can do is state the obvious.On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:code_snippet source=
fekke.com/blogscriptvar dsData = new Spry.Data.XMLDataSet(http://www.fekke.com/com/SpockWS.cfc,/soapenv:Envelope/soapenv:Body/ns1:getQuoteResponse/getQuoteReturn, {
method:POST, postData: '?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8standalone=no?SOAP-ENV:Envelopexmlns:SOAP-ENV=
http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/xmlns:apachesoap=http://xml.apache.org/xml-soap xmlns:impl=http://com
xmlns:intf=http://comxmlns:soapenc=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/xmlns:tns1=
http://rpc.xml.coldfusionxmlns:wsdl=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/xmlns:wsdlsoap=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/soap/
xmlns:xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchemaxmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance
 SOAP-ENV:Bodymns:getQuote xmlns:mns=http://comSOAP-ENV:encodingStyle=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/
/mns:getQuote/SOAP-ENV:Body/SOAP-ENV:Envelope',headers: { Content-Type: text/xml; charset=utf-8, SOAPAction:
http://localhost:8300/com/SpockWS/getQuote } , useCache: false });dsData.startLoadInterval(1);/script/code_snippetThere has to be an easier and prettier way of calling a webservice from spry,
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[ACFUG Discuss] CF 7 on Tomcat

2006-08-23 Thread Steven Ross

Anyone deployed CF7 on tomcat? I've got it working (at least deployed)
but when it comes to serving cfm files they are downloaded instead of
processed... im sure its something in tomcat that needs to change but
searching the web hasn't turned up much.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Dell laptop battery recall

2006-08-15 Thread Steven Ross
On 8/15/06, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


















Figure I post this since several of us
have Dell laptops.



Dell is doing a massive recall of laptop
batteries. It's the largest recall in consumer electronics history. To
see if your affected simply go to following site..




http://www.dellbatteryprogram.com



Apparently, it's a batch of
batteries they received form Sony and made in Japan that are at issue. These
batteries have been known to catch on fire without warning which is a quick way
to lose a laptop.And ruin your furnature http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/31/dell-laptop-number-3-explodes/
Or cause a fire:http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32550
John

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XML Formatting in CF5 question







Yeah, I tried that one first but it didn't
work...I'm guessing the way the data was stored in unicode wasn't compatible
with the utf 8. When I googled the invalid character reference, Microsoft
actually suggests (it was the first link by the way) to use the iso 8859.
The web is a never-ending learning process!











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To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] RE:
XML Formatting in CF5 question

Yep, actually UTF-8 is the way to go here.
The group that supported the older 8859-1 (Latin-1) group has move on. The UTF
standards are the newer and more accepted encoding standard.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO-8859-1



John

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From: 
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Ross
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:32
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Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] RE:
XML Formatting in CF5 question





why not use utf-8? guess
it depends on your input forms



On 8/14/06, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Quick update - just in case anyone else
ever runs into this problem. Again, just to restate quickly - say you
have a German name with the double dots over the u or you have a
spanish name with the ~ over the n or something like that, it was
breaking my xml. To fix it I just needed to put this declaration at the
top of the xml document:











?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1 ?











Allen





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Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006
12:32 PM
To: 'discussion@acfug.org'
Subject: XML Formatting in CF5
question



Hello everyone,











I've got an aggravating situation. We're using CF5 and
I'm doing some AJAX
interfaces. My problem is, we have international users that have unicode
characters such as o acutes and various other flavors of invalid xml
characters...Do any of you know of a way either in XML or in CF5 to escape the
characters that will cause the XML to be invalid? 











Also, so you know, the values that are causing problems are
attributes and not text values in-between the tags...for instance:











person fName=invalidCharacterShowsUpHere
/











CDATA won't solve my problem and I'm running out of ideas.











Any help would be awesome!











Thanks,











Allen








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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] RE: XML Formatting in CF5 question

2006-08-14 Thread Steven Ross
why not use utf-8? guess it depends on your input formsOn 8/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






Quick 
update - just in case anyone else ever runs into this problem. Again, just 
to restate quickly - say you have a German name with the double dots over the 
u or you have a spanish name with the ~ over the n or something like that, 
it was breaking my xml. To fix it I just needed to put this declaration at 
the top of the xml document:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1 
?

Allen

  -Original Message-From: Underwood Allen (WJJ1AXU) 
  Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 12:32 PMTo: 
  'discussion@acfug.org'Subject: XML Formatting in CF5 
  question
  Hello 
  everyone,
  
  I've got an 
  aggravating situation. We're using CF5 and I'm doing some AJAX 
  interfaces. My problem is, we have international users that have unicode 
  characters such as o acutes and various other flavors of invalid xml 
  characters...Do any of you know of a way either in XML or in CF5 to escape the 
  characters that will cause the XML to be invalid? 
  
  Also, so you know, 
  the values that are causing problems are attributes and not text values 
  in-between the tags...for instance:
  
  person 
  fName=invalidCharacterShowsUpHere /
  
  CDATA won't solve 
  my problem and I'm running out of ideas.
  
  Any help would be 
  awesome!
  
  Thanks,
  
  Allen



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Verity and Blobs

2006-08-11 Thread Steven Ross
hmm.. I'm not sure on that one... in my experience with verity I didn't choose that direction. I just stored the files outside of the web docroot and indexed them normally. I have an aversion to storing files in the db... I would think it would slow verity down a bit pulling all that data from the db. If Verity can't index files that are stored in the db you may have to end up writing a query to dump all the data to the file system and then run your indexer (now that would be painstaking).
The livedocs don't really reveal an answer to you question.
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=1303.htmOn 8/11/06, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We are looking at potentially storing
files in the database. I'm not a big fan of that, but it's a possibility.
Can Verity index files if they are in the database?

Thanks,

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Re: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Regex help

2006-08-10 Thread Steven Ross
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0672325667/002-0166281-3017656?v=glancen=283155
On 8/10/06, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I liked the sams teach yourself regex book written by ben forta. Basic primer and good examples.On 8/10/06, 
West, Jason 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




















OT: Can you all suggest a good book that
would give a better understanding on regular _expression_ programming?





Thanks



JLW











From: 

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Payne
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15:52
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Subject: Re: re[2]: [ACFUG
Discuss] Regex help





I think what Dean is
suggesting here is that it is wiser to validate both from the server and the
client. The server validation being more reliable than the client.
This is a well adopted paradigm and Dean helps us remember this. 

Also, MITM = Man In The Middle, which is a type of attack that can be used to
attack a web site as a way to change data that would alter the normal behavior
of the application.

Dean is very security conscious through profession and paranoia, which is not a
bad thing. In the normal development process, it is always recommended to
consider ways that your application can be altered. 

For this given situation, one recommendation for removing the ability to
perform a SQL injection attack is to use the cfqueryparam or
cfprocparam tag when inserting data. These tags will throw
exceptions if the datatypes do not match. 

If this topic is of interest to other people, we should have Dean present
application security again. I attended oen of his presentation before at
ACFUG and it was a good primer for many types of attacks.

Cheers





On 8/7/06, Dean H.
Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Say you want to find your
string and its 10 to 12 characters in the
hexadecimal character set.You can validate your data with:

[A-F0-9]{10,12}

This will match any hexadecimal number with a minimum of 10 chars and 
a maximum of 12.Its a positive way of doing data validation on your
string.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people 
what they do not want to hear.
 -- George Orwell, 1945


On Aug 7, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 wrote:

 Thanks! The piece that I was missing was the not
(^) :)
 

 Dean, this _expression_ rereplace(mystring, [^A-F0-9],
, all)
 filters out all the unwanted characters. What does {min},{max}
do?
 Mischa.
 



 actually he would need this:

 rereplace(string, [^a-fA-F0-9], , all);


 On 8/7/06, Dean H. Saxe  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 rereplace(string, [^A-F0-9], , all);

 But if you're trying to do data validation, why wouldn't you throw
 out any data that doesn't match the regex [A-F0-9]{min,max}? 

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 what they do not want to hear.
 -- George Orwell, 1945


 On Aug 7, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 wrote:

 I can figure out how to remove a number of disallowed characters 
 from a string, but what if I want to include only a-f and 0-9 and
 discard everything else?

 so if a user supplies: E97152C6CF1DD198DE95C7F2C2EF5EA0, do nothing
 if a user supplies E97152C6CF1DD198DE9;hackcode; 

 it is supposed to return: E97152C6CF1DD198DE9accde

 Is that possible with a single regex? Or will I have to cycle
 through the string, and replace every character that doesn't match 
 [a-f]|[0-9] with nothing?

 Thanks!
 Mischa,



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Change Management Options Debate.

2006-08-08 Thread Steven Ross
Not sure, it is command line on linux... that much i know.. course the only command you need to know is create and the rest is managed through something like TortoiseSVNOn 8/8/06, 
Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:























U was going to put this on the Win Dev
Server. 

What work arounds will I encounter?



I can see already that I will probably
have to load Apache to use this.



Is this a command line only tool? No GUI?





Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,


Motorcyclecarbs.com,
Inc.

4292 Country Garden
Walk NW

Kennesaw
,
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Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852


www.motorcyclecarbs.com











From: Steven Ross [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006
2:32 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss]
Change Management Options Debate.





I posted a blog entry
about setting up a fedora box and getting SVN going:

easy stuff... course now I'm liking ubuntu, but the basic commands stay the
same (except you use apt instead of yum) and some config files are in different
places. 

http://www.zerium.com/zerium/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=63467E64-E1E5-119E-19FA55A04B20E4F3






On 8/8/06, Robert Reil 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:







Doug:



You did not hijack my thread. I opened it up for debate and I
just stood back and absorbed. It seems that the debate provided a general
consensus of SVN.

I appreciate the candid banter and absorbed a lot from it.



Objective fulfilled! 



Thanks again.









Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,


Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden
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Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852


www.motorcyclecarbs.com











From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:42
PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss]
Change Management Options Debate.





thank you Jeremy! As Charlie pointed out, it
would be a good blog post to get consumed.

Robert, we kind of hijakced your thread, but this is some good fudge for your
version control sundae you will be eating!

I made a couple in line comments below.

I'll add one thing I really hate about CVS, you can't export a module from teh
repository to a existing directory where you exported the module
previously. CVS will not overwrite files. This forced us to
checkout working copies on our prod server. No biggie, we are a intranet
only team, but a pain. 

DK



On
8/7/06, Jeremy Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



THe
points for SVN go like this:

Versioning is much more sane and manageable. When I first started using SVN it
was much more bearable to me. Your entire codebase can be encapsulated in one
SVN version number instead of each file having its own version. When I say
version 543 of the codebase with SVN there is no ambiguity about the state of
the system when I say that. CVS has no easy concept of referring to the contents
of the repository as a whole with a version number. That to me is what makes
SVN so much better. 






We use tags in CVS for this. Works fine, but certainly doesn't tie in
with the version of a file. This is a interesting concept. This
means a file that was created as teh first file in your tree and never edited
for 5 years still has the version listed at the max of all file versions, eh? 










SVN is
easier to manage. This is a personal opinion but my experiences bear this one
out. The command line for SVN is much more intuitive. 

SVN allows for you to delete and rearrange branches. This is HUGE. Deleting
folders in CVS is plain not possible. CVSs delete functionality is just lacking
in every way. 








yes, this is a major PITA for sure in CVS. Most clients hide this issue
by 'pruning' empty dirs. 










Directories
have revision numbers too. Everything in the system behaves consistently and
there are no surprises or differences to deal with with different types of
entities in the system as there is with CVS. 

SVN has no special functionality for branching, merging, or tagging. It is all
implemented using the same functionality so how you arrange your repository is
up to you. The cost of these operations in SVN is constant O(1) which is great
compared to CVS and its slowness with many of these operations, especially on
larger codebases. 








branching and merging is a major PITA, luckily we rarely do it. The team
of 10 here usually works on seperate projects.










That is
all I can remember off the top of my head. I know there are a couple of other
good points somewhere in there that favor SVN. Sure a lot of these are small
things but add them up and it makes SVN much better to work with. So if you are
starting from scratch why bother with CVS? Unless you have very specific
interoperability requirements or you are already really experienced with CVS
from a management perspective I recommend using SVN. Its not just about solving
issues with CVS. The system is also a bit more cohesive overall.
And I promise you that with a team of 10

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue

2006-07-24 Thread Steven Ross
I'm with dean, i always put this stuff in the request scope... seems to make more sense.On 7/23/06, Douglas Knudsen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:lock if a race condition is expected, eh? a DSN setting that is never expeced to change on a regular basis wouldn't need a lock. But if other things are being set/read in a shared scope ( frames can be suspect here) locking may need to be used.

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18235DKOn 7/23/06, 
Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Shared scope variables are generally locked.I know this changedwith CFMX and I'm not sure what the latest thinking is.Its beenhabit for so long I can't seem to break it.-dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the Americanpublic. -- Theodore RooseveltOn Jul 23, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Dusty Hale wrote: Why would an application scope variable need to be locked (it never
 changes)? I was always under the assumption that only session scope variables need to be locked. I could have this wrong but I thought as a best practice, persistent variables values that never change (like a datasource name) should be
 application scope and persistent variables that do change (like specific user info) should be client or session scope (client scope preferred) and that only session scope variables need locks. Do you recommend also
 locking client scope? These are best practices I learned years ago with Hal Helms but it has been a while and could be a little fuzzy in my head ... Dusty

 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:58 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue
 Which would lead you to lock it... the REQUEST scope is fine for this sort of data.
 -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
 that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.-- Theodore Roosevelt
 On Jul 23, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Dusty Hale wrote: Now that I think of it since things like datasource names don't change at all ever, I should probably be using the application scope .
 Dusty From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Teddy
 Payne Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:45 PM To: 
discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue
 Dusty, IFrames are buggy to begin with.In the past to overcome this, I used a more persistent scope like CLIENT or SESSION scope to persist into the IFRAME.

 I remember something to the effect that the loading page will get the request scope, but the IFrame is created by the browser, so that is the client browser creating the request and not the
 application. Teddy On 7/23/06, Dusty Hale 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I only have one application.cfm
 in the webroot and the page that is in the frame is also in the webroot. Strang one ... ??? -Original Message- From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:28 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue Is the page that is in the frame on the same directory or sub directory of the application.cfm? Do you have any other 
application.cfm's floating around? John 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:33 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue
 I ran into something interesting and wondered if anyone had any
 insight on it. I have noticed that variables set in application.cfm, in this case in the request scope, do not work when pages are in an iFrame. For example (request variables are set in 
application.cfm): CFQUERY datasource=#request.dsnName# username=#request.dsnUser# password=#request.dsnPass#name=tracks SELECT
 * FROM myTable ORDER BY datestamp DESC /CFQUERY This query runs fine on its own and the datasource, user, pass are
 set up in the application.cfm file. However, if I use this same query on a page that calls the page it is in from an iFrame as in: iframe src=""

 width=133 height=320 scrolling=Auto frameborder=0/ iframe, it won't run and throws an error: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]SELECT permission
 denied on object 'myTable', database 'myDataBase', owner 'dbo'. When I hard code the datasource, username, password into the cfquery tag instead of using the variables set in 
application.cfm, it then runs fine in the iFrame tag. This is a band aid I guess but it would be nice to understand why it is really happening. Anyone have any insight?
 Dusty - To 

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue

2006-07-24 Thread Steven Ross
sorry useless point, have you tried getting any variable from the request scope in your iframe?On 7/24/06, Steven Ross 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm with dean, i always put this stuff in the request scope... seems to make more sense.
On 7/23/06, Douglas Knudsen 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:lock if a race condition is expected, eh? a DSN setting that is never expeced to change on a regular basis wouldn't need a lock. But if other things are being set/read in a shared scope ( frames can be suspect here) locking may need to be used.


http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18235DKOn 7/23/06, 
Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

Shared scope variables are generally locked.I know this changedwith CFMX and I'm not sure what the latest thinking is.Its beenhabit for so long I can't seem to break it.-dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the Americanpublic. -- Theodore RooseveltOn Jul 23, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Dusty Hale wrote: Why would an application scope variable need to be locked (it never
 changes)? I was always under the assumption that only session scope variables need to be locked. I could have this wrong but I thought as a best practice, persistent variables values that never change (like a datasource name) should be
 application scope and persistent variables that do change (like specific user info) should be client or session scope (client scope preferred) and that only session scope variables need locks. Do you recommend also
 locking client scope? These are best practices I learned years ago with Hal Helms but it has been a while and could be a little fuzzy in my head ... Dusty


 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:58 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue
 Which would lead you to lock it... the REQUEST scope is fine for this sort of data.
 -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
 that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.-- Theodore Roosevelt
 On Jul 23, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Dusty Hale wrote: Now that I think of it since things like datasource names don't change at all ever, I should probably be using the application scope .
 Dusty From: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Teddy

 Payne Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:45 PM To: 

discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue
 Dusty, IFrames are buggy to begin with.In the past to overcome this, I used a more persistent scope like CLIENT or SESSION scope to persist into the IFRAME.


 I remember something to the effect that the loading page will get the request scope, but the IFrame is created by the browser, so that is the client browser creating the request and not the
 application. Teddy On 7/23/06, Dusty Hale 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I only have one application.cfm
 in the webroot and the page that is in the frame is also in the webroot. Strang one ... ??? -Original Message- From: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Mason
 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:28 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue Is the page that is in the frame on the same directory or sub directory of the application.cfm? Do you have any other 
application.cfm's floating around? John 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:33 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue
 I ran into something interesting and wondered if anyone had any
 insight on it. I have noticed that variables set in application.cfm, in this case in the request scope, do not work when pages are in an iFrame. For example (request variables are set in 
application.cfm): CFQUERY datasource=#request.dsnName# username=#request.dsnUser# password=#request.dsnPass#name=tracks SELECT
 * FROM myTable ORDER BY datestamp DESC /CFQUERY This query runs fine on its own and the datasource, user, pass are
 set up in the application.cfm file. However, if I use this same query on a page that calls the page it is in from an iFrame as in: iframe src=""


 width=133 height=320 scrolling=Auto frameborder=0/ iframe, it won't run and throws an error: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]SELECT permission
 denied on object 'myTable', database 'myDataBase', owner 'dbo'. When I hard code the datasource, username, password into the cfquery tag instead of using the variables set in 
application.cfm, it then runs fine in the iFrame tag. This is a 

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue

2006-07-24 Thread Steven Ross
I just tested creating a dummy query in my application cfm and dumping it in my iframe and it worked fine...On 7/24/06, Steven Ross 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:sorry useless point, have you tried getting any variable from the request scope in your iframe?
On 7/24/06, Steven Ross 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm with dean, i always put this stuff in the request scope... seems to make more sense.
On 7/23/06, Douglas Knudsen 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:lock if a race condition is expected, eh? a DSN setting that is never expeced to change on a regular basis wouldn't need a lock. But if other things are being set/read in a shared scope ( frames can be suspect here) locking may need to be used.



http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18235DKOn 7/23/06, 
Dean H. Saxe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

Shared scope variables are generally locked.I know this changedwith CFMX and I'm not sure what the latest thinking is.Its beenhabit for so long I can't seem to break it.-dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the Americanpublic. -- Theodore RooseveltOn Jul 23, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Dusty Hale wrote: Why would an application scope variable need to be locked (it never
 changes)? I was always under the assumption that only session scope variables need to be locked. I could have this wrong but I thought as a best practice, persistent variables values that never change (like a datasource name) should be
 application scope and persistent variables that do change (like specific user info) should be client or session scope (client scope preferred) and that only session scope variables need locks. Do you recommend also
 locking client scope? These are best practices I learned years ago with Hal Helms but it has been a while and could be a little fuzzy in my head ... Dusty



 -Original Message- From: 
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 [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:58 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue
 Which would lead you to lock it... the REQUEST scope is fine for this sort of data.
 -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
 that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.-- Theodore Roosevelt
 On Jul 23, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Dusty Hale wrote: Now that I think of it since things like datasource names don't change at all ever, I should probably be using the application scope .
 Dusty From: 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
] On Behalf Of Teddy

 Payne Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:45 PM To: 


discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue
 Dusty, IFrames are buggy to begin with.In the past to overcome this, I used a more persistent scope like CLIENT or SESSION scope to persist into the IFRAME.



 I remember something to the effect that the loading page will get the request scope, but the IFrame is created by the browser, so that is the client browser creating the request and not the
 application. Teddy On 7/23/06, Dusty Hale 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I only have one application.cfm
 in the webroot and the page that is in the frame is also in the webroot. Strang one ... ??? -Original Message- From: 


[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John
 Mason
 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:28 PM
 To: 
discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue Is the page that is in the frame on the same directory or sub directory of the application.cfm? Do you have any other 
application.cfm's floating around? John 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:33 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue
 I ran into something interesting and wondered if anyone had any
 insight on it. I have noticed that variables set in application.cfm, in this case in the request scope, do not work when pages are in an iFrame. For example (request variables are set in 
application.cfm): CFQUERY datasource=#request.dsnName# username=#request.dsnUser# password=#request.dsnPass#name=tracks SELECT
 * FROM myTable ORDER BY datestamp DESC /CFQUERY This query runs fine on its own and the datasource, user, pass are
 set up in the application.cfm file. However, if I use this same query on a page that calls the page it is in from an iFrame as in: iframe src=""



 width=133 height=320 scrolling=Auto frameborder=0/ iframe, it won't run and throws an error: [Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]SELECT permission
 denied on object 'myTable', database 'myDataBase', owner 'dbo'. W

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue

2006-07-24 Thread Steven Ross
Hmm.. i just tried this with basically your same setup... iframe calls a query to SQL server and the DSN is in the application.cfm in the request scope and it works fine. running CF  
	
	
		7,0,1,116466 On 7/24/06, Dusty Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

















I have no doubt that the problem must lie
somewhere else …











From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
Steven
Ross
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:53
AM
To: discussion@acfug.org

Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting
issue





I just tested creating a
dummy query in my application cfm and dumping it in my iframe and it worked
fine...



On 7/24/06, Steven
Ross  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



sorry useless point, have you tried getting any variable from the
request scope in your iframe? 









On 7/24/06, Steven
Ross  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I'm with dean, i always put this stuff in the request scope... seems to
make more sense. 









On 7/23/06, Douglas
Knudsen 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



lock if a race condition
is expected, eh? a DSN setting that is never expeced to
change on a regular basis wouldn't need a lock. But if other things are
being set/read in a shared scope ( frames can be suspect here) locking may need
to be used. 


http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18235

DK



On 7/23/06, Dean H.
Saxe 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 








Shared scope variables
are generally locked.I know this changed
with CFMX and I'm not sure what the latest thinking is.Its been
habit for so long I can't seem to break it.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or 
that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only 
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public.
 -- Theodore Roosevelt


On Jul 23, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Dusty Hale wrote:

 Why would an application scope variable need to be locked (it never 
 changes)? I was always under the assumption that only session scope
 variables need to be locked.

 I could have this wrong but I thought as a best practice, persistent
 variables values that never change (like a datasource name) should be 
 application scope and persistent variables that do change (like
 specific
 user info) should be client or session scope (client scope
 preferred) and
 that only session scope variables need locks. Do you recommend also 
 locking
 client scope?

 These are best practices I learned years ago with Hal Helms but it
 has been
 a while and could be a little fuzzy in my head ...

 Dusty

 -Original Message-
 From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dean H.
 Saxe
 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:58 PM 
 To: 
discussion@acfug.org

 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue 

 Which would lead you to lock it... the REQUEST scope is fine for this
 sort of data. 

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or 
 that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
 unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
 public.
-- Theodore Roosevelt

 
 On Jul 23, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Dusty Hale wrote:

 Now that I think of it since things like datasource names don't
 change at all ever, I should probably be using the application
 scope . 



 Dusty

 From: 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
] On Behalf Of Teddy 
 Payne
 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:45 PM
 To: 
discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue

 

 Dusty,
 IFrames are buggy to begin with.In the past to overcome
this, I
 used a more persistent scope like CLIENT or SESSION scope to
 persist into the IFRAME.

 I remember something to the effect that the loading page will get
 the request scope, but the IFrame is created by the browser, so
 that is the client browser creating the request and not the 
 application.

 Teddy

 On 7/23/06, Dusty Hale 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes I only have one application.cfm in the webroot and the page
 that is in
 the frame is also in the webroot. Strang one ... ???

 -Original Message-
 From: 
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[mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of John 
 Mason 
 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:28 PM 
 To: 
discussion@acfug.org

 Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue

 Is the page that is in the frame on the same directory or sub
 directory of
 the application.cfm? Do you have any other application.cfm's floating
 around?

 John
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message- 
 From: 
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[mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dusty
 Hale
 Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:33 PM
 To: 
discussion@acfug.org

 Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] interesting issue 

 I ran into something interesting and wondered if anyone had any
 insight on
 it. I have noticed that variables set in application.cfm, in this
 case in
 the request scope, do not work when pages

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record set setup struggle

2006-07-21 Thread Steven Ross
Go into the CF admin and set the RDS password and make sure that feature is on...Security tab  RDSOn 7/21/06, Robert Reil 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






















I am terminaled into the CF server.

And I am using DW locally.

The wwwroot directory is mapped as the W
drive.



The 127.0.01 was a typo'



I wanted to duplicate the error so I
closed CF Admin in the terminal session and reopened it and now it does not
error.

Probably just a little slow I guess.



Anyways if on the DW client and click Application,
Databases, or Bindings etc it still is stuck on RDS login.

And gives that error. 




The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the
page in my browser find with that path)


Possible reasons:


1. The URL specified for this site's testing server may be incorrect: 
http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/



2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion
may not be running).


(Note: This is a CF server box)



Any ideas?

I know CF works as I can
browse our site


www.motorcyclecarbs.com

and see that it works.

So I think #2 is not the
problem.

But I can browse 
http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/


No problem as well.







Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,


Motorcyclecarbs.com,
Inc.

4292 Country Garden
Walk NW

Kennesaw
,
 Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852


www.motorcyclecarbs.com











From: Douglas Knudsen
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:19
AM
To: discussion@acfug.org

Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DW
Record set setup struggle





this on your local
PC? No IIS? You are running CF on a different port than 80,
probably 8500 or 8300.

DK





On 7/21/06, Robert Reil 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:







Thinking further I opened CF Admin on the web server and got
this error:



'Cannot find the file
'http://127.0.01/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm
' (or one of its components).
Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are
available.



Checking the local path I do find in the wwwroot directory
C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE\administrator\index.cfm

Hmm... What gives now?



FYI I also saw an error in DW with the same path name.









Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,


Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden
Walk NW

Kennesaw
 , Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852


www.motorcyclecarbs.com















From: Robert
 Reil [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:48
AM
To: discussion@acfug.org

Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] DW Record
set setup struggle









Im in fortas Construction book trying to set up a Record set
as on page 89.



Im trying to click Application, Bindings, to associate the
database to the site in DW.

All I get in any window in the Application sub tabs all have:



To use dynamic data on this page:


1. Create a site for this file.
(checked)


2. Choose a document type. (checked)


3. Set up the sites's testing server


4. Specify the RDS login information for


 ColdFusion server.


5. Create a Coldfusion data source.



Looks like Im stuck on step 3.



Clicking on the link in step 3 opens a Site Definition
for (SiteName) dialogue box and wants me to fill our the TESTING SERVER
information.

That info as far as I can tell is correct.



Server model:

ColdFusion

Access:

Local/Network

Testing server
folder:
W:\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\


(Our web path in IIS)

Refresh remote list auto ON

URL
Prefix:
http://localhost/intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/



The URL Prefix is the location of the site's root folder on the testing server.


I just changed it to http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/
 and now #3 check's as
done



But now I get another error:


The server name or address could not be resolved. (note I can hit the
page in my browser find with that path)


Possible reasons:


1. The URL specified for this site's testing server may be incorrect: 
http://intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com/



2. The testing server may be incorrectly configured (for example, ColdFusion
may not be running).


(note: This is a CF server box)



Do I have to tell CF to see this new IIS hosted site I made
this AM?


How where?



Forta says I should be able to click the + sign on the
bindings tab and have a GUI called RECORDSET pop up.

Any ideas where to figure out whats going on?





Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,


Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden
Walk NW

Kennesaw
 , Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852


www.motorcyclecarbs.com

















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[ACFUG Discuss] flash player 9

2006-07-19 Thread Steven Ross
came out... today?potential issues:http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=4a8d52ae-- Steven Ross
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ???...Model Glue, Frame Work Etc...???

2006-06-23 Thread Steven Ross
A framework is simply a methodology... like someone else stated. Ie: you put all of X type code in X template and Y type code in Y template. Read up on MVC (model view controller) and Model Glue is simply an implementation of the MVC paradigm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controllerOn 6/23/06, Robert Reil 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Analagous to CSS then it would seem...Robert P. ReilManaging Director,Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.4292 Country Garden Walk NWKennesaw, Ga. 30152Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852www.motorcyclecarbs.com-Original Message-From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
]Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:11 AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ???...Model Glue, Frame Work Etc...???Well, MS Visual Studio is a develement environment for 'coding'.A
framework is more a set of rules, guidelines, and plan-of-attacks tofollow while 'coding'.Consider this analogy.Lets say you are a writer of magazinearticles.The 'framework' in this sense maybe the particular approach
you use to format your text, structure your paragraphs, etc.Maybeits a 'block framework' or 'free form framework' or 'The TimesFramework'.Also in this sense, what you type the articles on makesno difference to the framework, you could use a typewriter, pencil, or
PC/Mac.DKOn 6/23/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So basically Model Glue is framework software. Frame Work software is basically an environment to build a CF App within
 that is able to manage jobs etc like MS Visual Studio? I then would not need to even be involved with this technology if I am the sole app developer or am able to micro manage the dev of this app.
 If I am incorrect please correct me.. NOW THAT'S! A CAN OF WORMS! Lol I sense a long thread today here Robert P. Reil Managing Director, 
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc. 4292 Country Garden Walk NW Kennesaw, Ga. 30152 Office 770-974-8851 Fax 770-974-8852 
www.motorcyclecarbs.com -Original Message- From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:20 AM
 To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ???...Model Glue, Frame Work Etc...??? wow, what a can of worms!Personally, i'd worry about learning CF
 first, add frameworks in later.Frameworks are a sort of guide to building a application that a group of folks have a consensus on. Thus developers working on a project that use say ModelGlue can easily
 use the same vocabulary and if you add a new developer in the mix that knows ModelGlue, then they will already know the vocabulary and seeminlgy join in quicker and easier to the current conversations.
 DK On 6/23/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I am hearing a lot about Framework. Also Model Glue, and others like the
2  seminette's we had at the last meeting. Question is: What is it all about, will I ever need it, and when would I?
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] SUSE 10 Coldfusion and Apache

2006-06-19 Thread Steven Ross
I thought there was just an installer file (or a script to get apache to talk to CF)On 6/19/06, Anthony L. Mathis 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:








Does anyone have any 
info on getting Coldfusion to run on SUSE 10 and connecting it to 
Apache?



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning Cold Fusion

2006-06-17 Thread Steven Ross
I read somewhere that the best way to learn is having to do something... ie: your fired if you don't learn coldfusion. Hah, there is some nice learning pressure for you.I would say that the best (and cheapest) way to learn CF (or any programming language) is to read a book and try to build something while having a mentor. This helped a ton when I learned java... course I did also take an online class that sorta forced me to do the material.
the great thing about the cf list is that it can definately help you out when you are lost!On 6/17/06, 
Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I actually had to watch that CBT back in 2000 when I entered the CFworld. 'SkillBuilding With ColdFusion'IIRC was the title.It wasfor 4 or 4.5 version but the basic ideas still apply today.I know Ihave a copy around, but alas those copyright rulez!:)Luckily we
have electrity now, so its ok:)I'd concur with others on this.Hands-on experimenting with somebooks on the side is a great approach.If you are dead againstself-teaching look into Fig Leaf for sure.
DKOn 6/17/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for that, Dean. I'm especially pleased to hear that I've been of
 help to you, seeing how much you now give back to the community. And that is
 indeed the way it ought to be. I was motivated to get into user groups because I learned so much from them, starting in the early 80's in my mainframe career--yes, we had user groups back then, and mailing lists, and
 even electricity. :-) Seriously, though, that cycle of learning and giving back has been so valuable. As to Jeremy's suggestion in his earlier note regarding SQL books, I would have to counter that Joe Celko's books are definitely more for those who
 have achieved not just the basics but really is ready to go well beyond that. Certainly great stuff, but like recommending the Gang of Four book as someone's first foray in to Design Patterns (Head First would be a better
 choice there). Instead, I'd recommend Ben Forta's Teach Yourself SQL in 10 Minutes. If you read the spotlight review at Amazon, mine from 2000, you'll see why I like it so much, and it's in its 3rd edition now.
 Otherwise, Jeremy makes fine points, as confirmed and added to by Dean and Rick. As for books, you mentioned Ben's CFWACK and it's indeed a classic. You can find discounted copies of that, and The CFMX Bible (done by the Churvises,
 Hal Helms, and myself), and many other good CF books (like the Oreilly one) online. And don't forget the free manuals that come with CF, and more than just the reference. There's a real user guide to CF, CFML, coding, and more,
 that's several hundred pages long. You can get it in print and read it online in HTML and PDF. In CFMX 7 the manual's called the ColdFusion MX Developer's Guide, and in 6.1 Developing ColdFusion MX Applications (and
 something yet again in CF5). It and all the docs are available online in PDF and HTML form (and can even be purchased in print) at 

http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/coldfusion/documentation.html Don't forget, as well, the example apps that come with CF (an option on installation). They're not paragons of good design, but as has been conveyed
 in this thread, there's learning to get started, and then there's learning to advance. CF7 in particular has an especially nice flash-based interface to help with its getting started resources.

 Finally, though it may be old, there was a CD produced by Allaire called the SkillBuilder. I would bet you could find it. There's a more recent version of something similar, a video that does cover CFMX, at:
 http://www.learnwebdevelopment.com/intro_to_coldfusion_mx.html
 I've not used either of them but the price for the latter is right to fit in
 your budget. /charlie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe
 Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:45 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning Cold Fusion
 I'm with Jeremy on this.I'm a book learner, read a book, implement, read
 more, implement more.I'm a self-taught programmer, unless you consider taking Pascal in college in 1990 part of my career (I don't).Classes are helpful,but they are expensive.Most classes I see on any technical area
 of expertise are in the neighborhood of $750 - $1000/8 hour day. That having been said, the best addition to books and trying new things has always been having a mentor to work with.Someone who knows XYZ technology
 just a bit better than you so you can learn from his or her experience.My first boss, Eric Palmer, was that person for me WRT DB design and SQL.My next boss helped me really get my feet wet with OO and Java.WRT
 application security, I was on my own for a while but eventually found some people who have helped me grow in that space as well.I've also learned a lot from people in ACFUG over the years too.Cameron Childress, Jeremy
 Allen (who I'm happy to work with now), Charlie Arehart, Shawn 

[ACFUG Discuss] Ajax help

2006-06-09 Thread Steven Ross
FYI, anyone working with ajax might appreciate this debug tool for firefox:

Firebug http://www.joehewitt.com/software/firebug/

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frameworks

2006-06-09 Thread Steven Ross
Thats what we are going to use for the ACFUG site rebuild... any Model Gluers out there want to jump in? On 6/9/06, Dean H. Saxe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I *really* like Model Glue. A lot. I used it in HacmeShipping (being released next week from Foundstone) and it took me a few days to get up and running. After that it was easy-squeezy.
-dhs 


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www.fullfrontalnerdity.com/hfd On Jun 9, 2006, at 2:02 PM, 
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So I have this large, new application we are DESIGNING (yes, actually taking the time to do this) and the question of framework/methodology is starting to come up, since we are working on prototyping aspects of the system. The theory is that we will be running this on CFMX 7; but this isn't set in stone yet (but it would make SO many things easier). I only have FuseBox 3 experience and part of the current app is in FB3 - needless to say it hasn't left the best taste in my mouth. There is one other team member with some MachII  FB experience and another member with no framework experience at all. 
My goal in choice of framework is simple: ease of use and flexibility. Ease of use goes beyond being knee deep in the code, but easy for a newbie to pick up as well. And newbie being team members picking it up to whomever ends up supporting it in the future. I am shooting for this application, once complete, to be able to be supported by a junior level developer (or only a part time senior level developer).
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Convert Word to Flash Paper on Linux Coldfusion

2006-05-16 Thread Steven Ross
Found this at openoffice (probably your best bet)
ConverterServlet
		  This servlet shows how to convert arbitrary documents 
		  on a remotely running office server. The converted document will be 
		  pushed from the web server to the client browser. Please see the 
README file for further information.On 5/16/06, Leif Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We're actually looking to make it a two part process... finding a way to convert doc, ppt and pdf to html and then using Coldfusion to convert the html to swf.
I don't know if that's the best way to proceed, but we don't have access to COM since we are on Linux (unless there is something out there to get around that...)
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Let me know what you find out about
Powerpoint. Word is an HTMLish document I believe, but I haven't
gone Word to CF before. But I did find this: http://www.aspose.com,
which looked very promising. I asked on the list and no one gave
any response really on it. One thought (an interviewee had yesterday!)
is to pry open Open Office to see how it does things.

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Is there a way to do this? 

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] login app

2006-05-11 Thread Steven Ross
yeah, i use it as well... never had any issues with it. On 5/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Why don't you care for it? I know that
it isn't a wizard type of solution, but it gives you a framework
to build on.


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I've never been a big fan of cflogin, but here are some
tutorials I just found

http://www.google.com/search?q=cflogin+tutorialstart=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8client=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Looks like Ray Camden's Blog software use it, so that would be a good example

http://ray.camdenfamily.com/
his other SW uses it too it appears.



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Do you by any chance know of a
good code example I could follow. The one on livedocs didn't look a very
good one. Many thx for the reply.

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I like using cflogin. Then you can use roles for CFC permissions
and such. Inside of your cflogin you can do whatever you like. Database,
LDAP, ActiveDirectory. Whatever meets your business need.



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Hey it has been awhile for me in the CF world. I am building a login module
for a client and wanted to know if there are any new and improved techniques.
Should I consider using cflogin? The way I used to do it was to build a
login form that runs a cf script to query the database for a match and
then set permissions into variables. Since it has been I while, I thought
I would ask. 
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] secure file download

2006-05-08 Thread Steven Ross
use cfcontent to serve the files and put them outside of the docroot of the webserver.On 5/8/06, Dusty Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not sure if anyone has any advice on this but I am building
a site feature that allows users who are logged in to download MP3 files. I am
storing MP3 records in an sql server database (title, description, and
filename) and the actual MP3 file in their own folder. I want to make sure that
users will not be able to short cut to the MP3 files without being logged in.
Any advice is greatly appreciated. 



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