Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 09:47:33 AM you wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:58 AM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:24:11 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim Jean, I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an additional available format for download but Google currently rejects that file type. It is limited to PDF, epub as well as cover art in jpeg/gif. Tim Jean, According to Google The getting started guide is now live and online in The PE, US and VE sales regions. I am currently not able to located it though through their search tools. I did find that there is another group that has uploaded some but not all of the manuals under the Google Play Books Textbooks. They are missing covers and have other minor issues though but they did get ISBN Numbers assigned for them though.
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 09:47:33 AM you wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:58 AM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:24:11 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim Jean, I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an additional available format for download but Google currently rejects that file type. It is limited to PDF, epub as well as cover art in jpeg/gif. Tim Jean, According to Google The getting started guide is now live and online in The PE, US and VE sales regions. I am currently not able to located it though through their search tools. I did find that there is another group that has uploaded some but not all of the manuals under the Google Play Books Textbooks. They are missing covers and have other minor issues though but they did get ISBN Numbers assigned for them though.
Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
Sorry, I had intended to reply on-list, as Tim's questions were addressed to the list. I have one comment in addition to what I've said below: Bruce Byfield, who is writing a book on styles and templates (titled Designing with LibreOffice), should have some very relevant and valuable comments to make on the subject of conversion to ebook formats, among other topics. --Jean -- Forwarded message -- From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us?? To: timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I just setup a Google Books Partner account there are no directly payable fees associated with distributing content. Their is a profit splitting agreement for sales, but the Partner (In this case me) has full control to establish price) Free! as well as establish all DRM functions (None). The partner also has control for configuring advertising as well but they are required and Google does pay profit sharing for advertisement usages. Google currently supports, PDF, epub as well as scanned hard copy. Currently their are no LibreoOffice Titles available on Google Play Books. If their is no current LibreOffice Official initiative to establish a partner account and distribute the content and no license restriction preventing me from doing so then I will go ahead and distribute the manuals through my account for the low price of Free, with DRM disabled of course. There are some optimization requirements/recommendations as well as caveats related to hyperlinks. located here: https://support.google.com/books/partner/answer/107073?hl=enref_topic=3238502 I will start working on optimizing the manuals and brand the optimized PDF versions as The Google Edition, Please let me know if this is something LibreOffice would or would not like to take on officially at this time. If it is not something you are interested in taking on I will start submitting the latest manuals Non-Google Play Edition of course tomorrow. Tim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim Jean, I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an additional available format for download but Google currently rejects that file type. It is limited to PDF, epub as well as cover art in jpeg/gif. Tim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 06:59:18 PM Jean Weber wrote: For those on this list who aren't on the Docs list, this conversation may be of interest. --Jean -- Forwarded message -- From: timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us?? To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Jean, After looking through The Google Books Partnership Publishing configuration, I found that it is required to submit Tax Payment forms, as well as setup bank account info etc for payment prior to them allowing any materials to be published live even if they are being sold for free due to the mandated advertising agreement. I just conveniently took care of this and I am now the sole proprietor of a
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
Hello Tim, If, at any stage, you find PDF too inflexible, take a look at Sigil: https://code.google.com/p/sigil/ It's a free cross-platform epub creation application that I've found to be quite excellent. It doesn't have a very steep learning curve and I've created and modified many epub files that have been problematic with Calibre. Regards, Martin On 15/03/14 09:38, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 06:59:18 PM Jean Weber wrote: For those on this list who aren't on the Docs list, this conversation may be of interest. --Jean -- Forwarded message -- From: timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us?? To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Jean, After looking through The Google Books Partnership Publishing configuration, I found that it is required to submit Tax Payment forms, as well as setup bank
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:24:11 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim Jean, I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an additional available format for download but Google currently rejects that file type. It is limited to PDF, epub as well as cover art in jpeg/gif. Tim Jean, According to Google The getting started guide is now live and online in The PE, US and VE sales regions. I am currently not able to located it though through their search tools. I did find that there is another group that has uploaded some but not all of the manuals under the Google Play Books Textbooks. They are missing covers and have other minor issues though but they did get ISBN Numbers assigned for them though. http://books.google.com/books/about/Getting_Started_with_LibreOffice_4_0.html?id=H3ennAEACAAJ I will let everyone know when I am finished publishing all of them and they actually show up in the content search. Tim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:58 AM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:24:11 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim Jean, I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an additional available format for download but Google currently rejects that file type. It is limited to PDF, epub as well as cover art in jpeg/gif. Tim Jean, According to Google The getting started guide is now live and online in The PE, US and VE sales regions. I am currently not able to located it though through their search tools. I did find that there is another group that has uploaded some but not all of the manuals under the Google Play Books Textbooks. They are missing covers and have other minor issues though but they did get ISBN Numbers assigned for them though. http://books.google.com/books/about/Getting_Started_with_LibreOffice_4_0.html?id=H3ennAEACAAJ I will let everyone know when I am finished publishing all of them and they actually show up in the content search. Tim That other group is us. Those are copies of the printed editions published by Friends of OpenDocument,
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
On Wednesday, January 08, 2014 01:01:09 PM Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) The guides are available in soft-cover from Lulu book-stores. Occasionally there is a code to get a reduction on the cover price but it's around £16/book anyway. I got a couple of copies of the Getting Started Guide. If you contact Friends of OpenDocument they might be able to get a reduction for active contributors or for specific purposes. Jean or someone might be able to help you with contact details for them. Book sales help generate a small revenue for the community and i think that fund is managed by Friends of OpenDocument. My guess is that if the fund grows large enough then some might be donated directly to the TDF. It's useful to have the funds available easily to cover the costs of getting the newer guides into the store and getting into other stores, without having to first raise a huge discussion in some other mailing list that might not be aware of the issues. Regards from Tom :) On 8 January 2014 01:08, wschuma...@aol.com wrote: wschuma...@aol.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
Hi :) The guides are available in soft-cover from Lulu book-stores. Occasionally there is a code to get a reduction on the cover price but it's around £16/book anyway. I got a couple of copies of the Getting Started Guide. If you contact Friends of OpenDocument they might be able to get a reduction for active contributors or for specific purposes. Jean or someone might be able to help you with contact details for them. Book sales help generate a small revenue for the community and i think that fund is managed by Friends of OpenDocument. My guess is that if the fund grows large enough then some might be donated directly to the TDF. It's useful to have the funds available easily to cover the costs of getting the newer guides into the store and getting into other stores, without having to first raise a huge discussion in some other mailing list that might not be aware of the issues. Regards from Tom :) On 8 January 2014 01:08, wschuma...@aol.com wrote: wschuma...@aol.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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