RE: [DX-CHAT] RE: [DX-NEWS] N3KS/KP5
That is not a fair assessment INMHO. I believe it is a question of experience, circumstances and probably a lot of other things. These chaps live in an overheated tent under what we may call primitive circumstances and it is probably not so easy to think clearly, except for getting on the air as much as possible. We should respect that + give them some contructive input on how things can be improved - if at all possible. KP3 did a superb job on 30 m this morning ( 06-07 UTC ) - excellent operator ! I just did not have propagation good enough to cross the pond due to Aurora Borealis, which is prevalent at this time of the year in Scandinavia. Many people in central and south Europe worked him. He was just above the noise ( sometimes ) here ! I am keeping my fingers crossed for better openings before they leave !! 73 MX Rag LA5HE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of worldonline Sent: 17. desember 2005 00:09 To: Ragnar Otterstad; Bill; DX-NEWS Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] RE: [DX-NEWS] N3KS/KP5 I think also, It's DX'pédition only for United States Look the spots ! HI 99,99% NA in the log Never working Europe at the best time Merry Xmas for all - Original Message - From: Ragnar Otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DX-NEWS DX-NEWS@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:29 PM Subject: RE: [DX-NEWS] N3KS/KP5 No, Sir. I was just hoping somebody would make the guys on KP5 aware of some unfortunate facts of life ! That can hardly be labelled complaining ? 73 and merry xmas Rag la5he -Original Message- From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16. desember 2005 21:36 To: Ragnar Otterstad; DX-NEWS Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] N3KS/KP5 Rag, I think you would complain if you were hung with a new rope! Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: Ragnar Otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DX-NEWS DX-NEWS@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: RE: [DX-NEWS] N3KS/KP5 N3KS/KP5 on 14190, 5 to 20 up. Sounds like they have quite a following. Sure am glad I can sit this one out. de Paul, W8AEF 20 close early here so it was frustrating to listen to them working local stns 59 + while we still had propagation. At 1730 UTC 20 and 30 are dead and 40 almost now. I guess the opr is DX-inexperienced. 73 Rag LA5HE - -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options -- -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/204 - Release Date: 15/12/2005 -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options -- Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Shame on you unhappy campers...these guys deserve credit for undertaking this chore..it is hard work to say the least.the heat, bugs, landcrabs and all the other diversions. Aak anyone who has ever done this. I heard them stand by for EU last night and JA this morning. They are doing their job as best they can. You should be able to find where he is listening with a little effort; you cant depend on a cluster. NormK1AA - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kurt W. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. This is the first time I have ever heard of poor spots. This is unbelievable!!! These guys taking their time, money, etc and staying up for hours without sleep in a tent at 120 degrees and you complaining about the quality of the THEIR operation... You should be ashamed of yourself... I, and many others, worked them on 30 meters yesterday. It took me about 15 minutes. Have you ever tried golf? Sounds like you need a change. Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: Kurt W. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-news@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:37 PM Subject: RE: [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Just an FYI... I'm not impressed with the CW operation especially on 30m. Spots were poor on the cluster and there was no idea where he was listening. I sensed from quite a number of CW operators on the cluster their same frustration spending way too much time trying to find out where to transmit. Future reference why not give some indication, from time to time, where you are listing. I spend 3 hours, call me foolish... and I still don't know if I'm in the log for 30m. I thought I heard him reply to me... Is it me just getting old and cranky? 73; Kurt - W2MW -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options -- Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Isn't it amazing that people actually worked DX, and sometimes made the honor roll after years of hard work, before computers, clusters, and spots? Did I miss something (I am getting old) where it was decreed that working DX should be easy, lack of skill not withstanding? There is a fundamental law of human nature which states that the easier the task the lower the feeling of accomplishment. Urb, W2DEC Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] IRC's sold
Thanks for the emails. The IRC's are sold. 73! Bob N2OO
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Jim! It was easier before packet, clusters etc. as not everyone was calling at he same time - the clusters have destroyed DX-ing, and AK1A got into CQ DX Hall of Fame for inventing it... Now, if all Americans just were to learn in school that there is a continent called Europe also! The KP5-operators don't know it yet! 73 de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. At 11:37 PM 12/16/2005, Kurt W. Zimmerman W2MW wrote: Just an FYI... I'm not impressed with the CW operation especially on 30m. Spots were poor on the cluster and there was no idea where he was listening. I sensed from quite a number of CW operators on the cluster their same frustration spending way too much time trying to find out where to transmit. Whatever happened to good old fashioned listening? Kurt, I'm not trying to single you out, but we should not need to have every QSO spotted so we know the listening frequency! How did we ever work DX *before* packet? 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Hi Osten, That is not fair!! I am listing to them call Europe as I type!! Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org; Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Jim! It was easier before packet, clusters etc. as not everyone was calling at he same time - the clusters have destroyed DX-ing, and AK1A got into CQ DX Hall of Fame for inventing it... Now, if all Americans just were to learn in school that there is a continent called Europe also! The KP5-operators don't know it yet! 73 de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. At 11:37 PM 12/16/2005, Kurt W. Zimmerman W2MW wrote: Just an FYI... I'm not impressed with the CW operation especially on 30m. Spots were poor on the cluster and there was no idea where he was listening. I sensed from quite a number of CW operators on the cluster their same frustration spending way too much time trying to find out where to transmit. Whatever happened to good old fashioned listening? Kurt, I'm not trying to single you out, but we should not need to have every QSO spotted so we know the listening frequency! How did we ever work DX *before* packet? 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Yes, they may be calling Europe now - but it's been dark here since hours, not a chance on 17 m. Some hours earlier when he was 59 here he only worked USA. Yes, I heard him once call Europe only but he didn't say USA stand by so after working two EU's he went on working USA... Also, propagations are very different between south Europe and up here near the arctic circle! We see a lot of TV-programs from USA, and children have no idea about Europe and the countries here. I need KP5 on 17 and 30 meters, have lots of cards from before 1993 - we were supposed not to call if we didn't need it for a totally new one, but I have heard a lot of US-stations which for sure have worked KP5 before! 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org; Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Hi Osten, That is not fair!! I am listing to them call Europe as I type!! Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org; Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Jim! It was easier before packet, clusters etc. as not everyone was calling at he same time - the clusters have destroyed DX-ing, and AK1A got into CQ DX Hall of Fame for inventing it... Now, if all Americans just were to learn in school that there is a continent called Europe also! The KP5-operators don't know it yet! 73 de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. At 11:37 PM 12/16/2005, Kurt W. Zimmerman W2MW wrote: Just an FYI... I'm not impressed with the CW operation especially on 30m. Spots were poor on the cluster and there was no idea where he was listening. I sensed from quite a number of CW operators on the cluster their same frustration spending way too much time trying to find out where to transmit. Whatever happened to good old fashioned listening? Kurt, I'm not trying to single you out, but we should not need to have every QSO spotted so we know the listening frequency! How did we ever work DX *before* packet? 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
apparently the feds just shut them down at 1735 Tom, WW5L Tom Anderson wrote: K3LP/KH5 just announced that the feds apparently the USFWS cops were headed on shore to shut them down. Not surehow much longer he was going to be able to operate. 24.945 Tom, WW5L Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Tom Anderson wrote: apparently the feds just shut them down at 1735 Tom, WW5L Tom Anderson wrote: K3LP/KH5 just announced that the feds apparently the USFWS cops were headed on shore to shut them down. Not surehow much longer he was going to be able to operate. 24.945 Tom, WW5L You know, it would appear that this was not an authorized operation, and so will be not acceptable for DXCC. Seems like a lot of folks may have spent a lot of time for nothing. -- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ CRUSTY OLD CURMUDGEON, AND PROUD OF IT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] KP5 Operation
To the Operators on KP5 you gave the folks a very special XMAS present this year. You did a FANTASTIC JOB. The signals were strong and consistent each time I heard them. I believe all will applaud your efforts. If you didn't work them let's hope there will be a returned trip so others can share in the prize. I heard the team work the JA's and that is not easy. I heard them try for Europe and depending on the propagation it may not have been easy with the time of day and bands. I believe these guys did not have beams and were travelling light. REMEMBER this was a 48 hours trip so they had to get set up fast and get on the air. Folks we gotta remember that they went there on a job project and managed to put out a lot of hours working DX. No matter what one does in any DX Operation there will be comments about how it could have been done better or different. These guys should be praised for their efforts. For a DX country to stay dormant for so long and then activated with two operators who spent countless hours operating to give out a new one is again terrific. Always remember if you are not in someone Else's shoes you can't walk their mile. You might criticize but give these two guys there just rewards! thanks Bernie for alerting the folks and your efforts to keep us informed.For those who made it Congrats and to those who are not in the log I hope you get there the next time. Merry ChristmasThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.orgMichael W. ElliottTHE INSIDE ADVANTAGE -RETIREMENT - LEISURE, REST and ONLY ELECTRONIC MAIL PAYMENTSServant to Bridgett, Collin and all my CreditorsSt. Louis County Missouri
[DX-CHAT] Thanks KP5
Sounds like their leaving. I'm happy to have them as all time new one on 15ssb and 30cw. Both qsos with 100w and wire. I was amused at the cluster spots, and the zombies that followed the QSX. I kept casting in the same fishing hole, and his ears came to me. It's important to turn the dial the right way, but it's also important to know how the dx is spinning his dial. As for the legal papers presented to them, that's sad, but not the first time smelly stuff like this has cropped up. Thanks KP5, Rich, N8UX Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] IRCs for sale
Hello, Some IRCs for sale. Pse contact me . 73s Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] R 7 Antenna
Hello, My Cushcraft R7 vertical antenna is giving RF back problem . Is there any solution ?? 73s Anil VU2TRI Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
IF they had permission to be on the island, why didn't they just show the paperwork to the policemen and continued the operation until they had run of of fuel for the generator? 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] You know, it would appear that this was not an authorized operation, and so will be not acceptable for DXCC. Seems like a lot of folks may have spent a lot of time for nothing. -- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ CRUSTY OLD CURMUDGEON, AND PROUD OF IT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] R 7 Antenna
Anil wrote: Hello, My Cushcraft R7 vertical antenna is giving RF back problem . Is there any solution ?? 73s Anil VU2TRI Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Take it apart and clean all the connections. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Jim writes:How did we ever work DX *before* packet? You know how we did..with paper logs, finding the right spot by hunting and a lot of patience. Looks like our push button culture has moved in on the DX scene. 73Norm K1AA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] How we did it before the internet
How? We had a small group of maybe 6 guys, and a list of countries (not BAND countries, just new ones overall). We had a 2M simplex freq that we all listened to, and called each other there. Occasionally a single jingle was used to alert a non-monitoring member of the group. If a RARE ONE came up, we split up and each guy monitored one band in and around the expected place and called on 2M if and when we heard our new one. Only after we all worked it (or ran out of monitors) did we put it up on packet. Then we leaned back and listened for the hyenas fighting over the scraps. We really worked for these Q's, as a group. Done. -- Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, our best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. And a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2006, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great, (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only AMERICA in the Western Hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or sexual preference of the wishee. (Note: By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher.) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
In a message dated 12/17/2005 8:58:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't it amazing that people actually worked DX... No Urb, you didn't miss anything. It's the people that not only want but expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter that missed something. Mort/WA2ARS
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues?
One of the last things K3LP said before pulling the plug was he would have a lot to tell once he got back. As he was going QRT he was saying they're standing right behind me now. and then silence. He also asked that everyone flood their QSL managers PO box with QSLs. Tom, WW5L PS: But to K3LP's credit once he heard the feds had landed he opened up his listening frequency to 20-30+ khz and said anyone call. I was able to work him about 10 minutes before they shut him down on 12m. From: mausoptik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Dec 17 13:54:03 CST 2005 To: 'w2agn' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues? Has anyone heard any more news about what happened? If there was permission granted from the bureaucrats how come they got told to QRT and got hauled off the island? What was the law suit about? Let's hope this isn't another 7O1YGF. Dave G0OIL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of w2agn Sent: 17 December 2005 17:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Tom Anderson wrote: apparently the feds just shut them down at 1735 Tom, WW5L Tom Anderson wrote: K3LP/KH5 just announced that the feds apparently the USFWS cops were headed on shore to shut them down. Not surehow much longer he was going to be able to operate. 24.945 Tom, WW5L You know, it would appear that this was not an authorized operation, and so will be not acceptable for DXCC. Seems like a lot of folks may have spent a lot of time for nothing. -- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ CRUSTY OLD CURMUDGEON, AND PROUD OF IT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues?
Tom, Something sounds wrong here .. It will be interesting to hear what they have to say. Joel, W1JMM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Anderson Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:04 PM To: mausoptik; 'w2agn'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues? One of the last things K3LP said before pulling the plug was he would have a lot to tell once he got back. As he was going QRT he was saying they're standing right behind me now. and then silence. He also asked that everyone flood their QSL managers PO box with QSLs. Tom, WW5L PS: But to K3LP's credit once he heard the feds had landed he opened up his listening frequency to 20-30+ khz and said anyone call. I was able to work him about 10 minutes before they shut him down on 12m. From: mausoptik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Dec 17 13:54:03 CST 2005 To: 'w2agn' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues? Has anyone heard any more news about what happened? If there was permission granted from the bureaucrats how come they got told to QRT and got hauled off the island? What was the law suit about? Let's hope this isn't another 7O1YGF. Dave G0OIL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of w2agn Sent: 17 December 2005 17:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Tom Anderson wrote: apparently the feds just shut them down at 1735 Tom, WW5L Tom Anderson wrote: K3LP/KH5 just announced that the feds apparently the USFWS cops were headed on shore to shut them down. Not surehow much longer he was going to be able to operate. 24.945 Tom, WW5L You know, it would appear that this was not an authorized operation, and so will be not acceptable for DXCC. Seems like a lot of folks may have spent a lot of time for nothing. -- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ CRUSTY OLD CURMUDGEON, AND PROUD OF IT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues?
Joe: I'm sure things will be interesting to hear. All I know is that I heard K3LP say they were right behind him as he went QRT. Will be a great program at Dayton I'm sure. 73 de Tom, WW5L From: Joel Magid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Dec 17 19:33:32 CST 2005 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], mausoptik [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'w2agn' [EMAIL PROTECTED], dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues? Tom, Something sounds wrong here .. It will be interesting to hear what they have to say. Joel, W1JMM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Anderson Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:04 PM To: mausoptik; 'w2agn'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues? One of the last things K3LP said before pulling the plug was he would have a lot to tell once he got back. As he was going QRT he was saying they're standing right behind me now. and then silence. He also asked that everyone flood their QSL managers PO box with QSLs. Tom, WW5L PS: But to K3LP's credit once he heard the feds had landed he opened up his listening frequency to 20-30+ khz and said anyone call. I was able to work him about 10 minutes before they shut him down on 12m. From: mausoptik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Dec 17 13:54:03 CST 2005 To: 'w2agn' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues? Has anyone heard any more news about what happened? If there was permission granted from the bureaucrats how come they got told to QRT and got hauled off the island? What was the law suit about? Let's hope this isn't another 7O1YGF. Dave G0OIL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of w2agn Sent: 17 December 2005 17:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Tom Anderson wrote: apparently the feds just shut them down at 1735 Tom, WW5L Tom Anderson wrote: K3LP/KH5 just announced that the feds apparently the USFWS cops were headed on shore to shut them down. Not surehow much longer he was going to be able to operate. 24.945 Tom, WW5L You know, it would appear that this was not an authorized operation, and so will be not acceptable for DXCC. Seems like a lot of folks may have spent a lot of time for nothing. -- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ CRUSTY OLD CURMUDGEON, AND PROUD OF IT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
I can still recall working one of the (if not the) last KP5/KP2A DXpeditions to Desecheo... the pileups tended to be big, but I was still able to get them on three bands. Near the end of the DXpedition, I heard them calling CQ on 10 -- with no takers -- early one morning. Obviously the band had just opened and no one else had stumbled on them (yet) -- remember, this was in the days before packet cluster had really taken off. The op was a young man with a caribbean call (off hand I can't recall it, I think it was a V4 call tho). We chatted for a few minutes, and I even asked if he wanted to work me as KP5/his call -- he couldn't, his US license (a Novice call, I believe) didn't have the privileges at that time for phone in the part of the band we were in. Funny thing... and sad to say, I wonder if this would happen today... we didn't have a single interuption or break for the 5 or 10 minutes we ragchewed. But after those few minutes, I said something to the effect of I wonder if the band has opened up yet and if there's anyone else waiting to work you... KP5/KP2A from WN3VAW. Not more than a moment after I signed, minor bedlam descended as the pileup began... and I sat back, sipped my coffee, and listened... 73, ron wn3vaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrei Nevis Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; john; dx-news@njdxa.org Subject: Re: Re: [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Guys did Good job, Bravest Men! I still remember the time, about 10-11 years ago, I was on 80 meters and heard KP5/W5... Just do not remember the callsign off hand. Well, they were CQing lonely. I called them, got report, then asked the guys to QSY on 40 meters, no problem. Then they came back to 80 meters. Meanwhile, I called several Ham friends in W3, W5, and W7 I beleive, and told them that KP5 is on the air. My friends turned on their Radios, called KP5 and got the new one. (Well, it was not new for all of them) What are we facing now? Agents, Cops, Lawyers, Bulletproofs, etc? Oh, My God... My Hat's is off to K3LP. 73's Andrei EW1AR-NC2N (was AA3BG ten years ago) p.s. About the same 10 years ago, I was active from KP4/AA3BG etc. I have a good friend there, he is Ham Radio Operator, and used to work for KP4 Governeur for a long time. We had a paper, signed by the Governeur of Puerto Rico - to go to KP5, and guess what, that paper was overturned by wild life agents, some like that... Whatever, Season's Greetings to everybody. 73's Andrei EW1AR-NC2N Tom Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John: It was interesting to hear K3LP/KH5 go QRT after working a W8 QRP staion, something like they're right behind me now. and then silence. Someone said on one of the lists why didn't they try to reason with the FWS agents (if thats who the cops were). I was a newspaper reporter for 20+ years and went on many different raids or busts or whatever you want to call them with city police, state police, and some federal agents, on all kinds of operations, even with the Texas Comptroller's Office tax agents when they raided busineeses for not paying state sales taxes they collected. (and an aside my sister-in-law was a Texas state revenue agent back in the 1980s), During nearly every operation officers never gave anyone a chance to explain or reason first, that might have come later, but they always wanted to get control of the situation first and then maybe listen later. Remember the photo of the INS agent holding an automatic weapon on Elian Gonzales the little Cuban child that had been ordered sent back to Cuba from Miami? This was a simple child return case, but the INS agent was wearing a stell helment, bulletproof vest, holding an autpomatic weapon, etc. and the look on Elian's face was something else looking down the barrel of that automatic weapon. As another aside, that photo won a Pulitzer Prize for news photography. I'm sure K3LP, et.al. will have a heck of a story to tell once they get back. Tom, WW5L From: john Date: Sat Dec 17 12:32:06 CST 2005 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], dx-news@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. At 12:30 PM 12/17/2005, Tom Anderson wrote: K3LP/KH5 just announced that the feds apparently the USFWS cops were headed to shut them down. There's a lot of folks anxious to hear the rest of the story... about this. Glad to have snagged 'em last night on 40ssb. John K5MO -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/205 - Release Date: 12/16/2005 -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php
