[Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations

2005-02-23 Thread JerryVan


I started this thread so I'll chime in a bit more.  It seems to me that
all the responders so far (including Rapidan thru some private emails)
have agreed that processing pre 1975 CW confirmations is a problem with
DX4WIN.  Some suggestions have been offered to circumvent the problem
but all suggestions have required some manual manipulation either with
the data itself or the DXCC reports or both.  Since this is a known
deficiency might it be better to develop some ways to change the DX4WIN
internals such that no manipulation is necessary?

I am not the DX4WIN internals person but it seems to me that from a user
viewpoint there may be at least a couple of solutions.  1. Provide
automatic knowledge of the CW DXCC rules via the implementation of an
option in the Preferences file.  If that is too complex or not possible
to implement then.  2. Enhance the Selection filter so that it would be
sensitive not only to the CW DXCC start date but also to mode such that
pre 1975 CW confirmations would not be eligible for MODE but these very
same confirmations would be eligible for MIXED and BAND.  This filter
could be set as needed and prior to printing of any DXCC reports.  The
appropriate Subm flags should also be correctly set when the Submissions
report is run.  Perhaps others may have additional suggestions as to how
to solve the pre 1975 problem but let's encourage Rapidan to resolve the
problem rather than develop work arounds.  Work arounds seem out of
place with a product as sophisticated as DX4WIN.

Jerry  N8BM

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Reisert AD1C
  To: Dave Jaksa ; 'N5TY - Ken' ; 'JerryVan' ; dx4win@mailman.qth.net ;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:11 PM
  Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations


  At 09:30 PM 2/22/2005, Dave Jaksa wrote:

  TNX for the suggestion Ken.  That would work for one of them but the
other
  one is a counter for Mixed.  The biggest problem I have is that if
one of
  the pre '75 CW confirmed countries is spotted on CW my DX Spots
window shows
  that I don't need it.

  Going further, rather than marking it invalid, change the mode from CW
to
  SSB or some other phone mode.

  73 - Jim AD1C


  -- 
  Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
  USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us





[Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems

2005-02-23 Thread Floyd Sense
I'm in the middle of upgrading from 6.03 to 6.04, and using the Rel 14 
country file. Once again, I'm plagued with the problem of DX4WIN changing my 
log data because of changes in the country file.  Before getting specific, I 
want to reiterate that no database system should EVER alter data in existing 
records for any reason.  There are other ways to illustrate changes between 
stored data and current guidelines (represented here by the country file).

Now, here's the new problem.  While trying to reconcile differences in the 
country counts on all bands, I've run into a number of QSOs for which DX4WIN 
erased the country name and prefix (that means they are now blank).  One 
such QSO was for a contact logged as c/ZL3HI on Chatham Is.  That is the way 
the call was sent, so that's the way it was logged.  However, in the country 
file, it's entered as: ZL3HI/C.  It's probably not reasonable to have it 
both ways in the country file, but it also is not reasonable to have DX4WIN 
arbitrarily blank the country and prefix fields without any indication that 
it happened.

Now that I know what's happened with many of the missing countries, the real 
problem is that I can find no way to search for QSOs marked as Checked but 
with a blank prefix or country name.  The only way to find them is to 
compare the ARRL credited list with the DX4WIN country listing, line by 
line.  And, to do that, you must first write the DX4WIN listing to a file, 
import into EXCEL, and resort the list by country name.

I've tried searching on a blank field by entering  and   in that field, 
but no success.  Any way to accomplish this?



73, Floyd - K8AC 



[Dx4win] PRE 1975 CW

2005-02-23 Thread wo2n
Hello,
Can someone shed some light on why pre 1975 CW don't count toward  an ACTIVE 
CW award, CW DXCC?
Phone,  Mix go back to 1945, why did CW start or RESTART in 1975?
Thanks, Bernie/WO2N. 


[Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems

2005-02-23 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
--- Floyd Sense [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now, here's the new problem.  While trying to reconcile differences in the 
 country counts on all bands, I've run into a number of QSOs for which DX4WIN 
 erased the country name and prefix (that means they are now blank).  One 
 such QSO was for a contact logged as c/ZL3HI on Chatham Is.  That is the way 
 the call was sent, so that's the way it was logged.

I can say with almost 100% certainty that the call was NOT sent this way.  I
have the QSL to prove it.  Here is one on the web:

  http://hamgallery.com/qsl/country/Chatham_Island/zl3hi.htm

 Now that I know what's happened with many of the missing countries, the real 
 problem is that I can find no way to search for QSOs marked as Checked but 
 with a blank prefix or country name.  The only way to find them is to 
 compare the ARRL credited list with the DX4WIN country listing, line by 
 line.  And, to do that, you must first write the DX4WIN listing to a file, 
 import into EXCEL, and resort the list by country name.

There is an easier way to find the differences.  It uses your old (known
good) and new country files and is described on my web page:

  http://www.ad1c.us/dx4win/index.htm#Country

If you send me the differences exactly as I request on that page, I'll add them
to the master country file.  If this is too much work for you, just send me
your original .CTY file and your log, and I'll do the work myself.

I have spent countless hours making the DX4WIN country database as accurate as
possible.  If the database is correct, there will be no difference in your log
whether the country information is stored with it or not.  I can only fix
problems when I am told about them.  I have been asking for corrections several
times a week for the last last two months.

Finally, if you're not happy with the way that DX4WIN stores its data, there is
no one forcing you to use it.  Try DXbase.  I did.  That's why I use DX4WIN.

73 - Jim AD1C


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USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Feb 23 10:44:14 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Wed Feb 23 10:55:50 2005
Subject: [Dx4win] PRE 1975 CW
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--- wo2n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can someone shed some light on why pre 1975 CW don't count toward  an ACTIVE 
 CW award, CW DXCC?
 Phone,  Mix go back to 1945, why did CW start or RESTART in 1975?

The award was created from scratch.  The ARRL probably decided to make everyone
start on a equal footing.

Probably same reason why single-band WAZ awards started in 1978 or so.

73 - Jim AD1C


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USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Feb 23 10:49:11 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ON4AOI)
Date: Wed Feb 23 11:01:09 2005
Subject: [Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Floyd,
There is a way that your log DIDN'T change
If you chose another option in Preferences|Import tab



73 Guy ON4AOI

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Floyd Sense
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:12 PM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems

I'm in the middle of upgrading from 6.03 to 6.04, and using the Rel 14 
country file. Once again, I'm plagued with the problem of DX4WIN changing my

log data because of changes in the country file.  Before getting specific, I

want to reiterate that no database system should EVER alter data in existing

records for any reason.  There are other ways to illustrate changes between 
stored data and current guidelines (represented here by the country file).

Now, here's the new problem.  While trying to reconcile differences in the 
country counts on all bands, I've run into a number of QSOs for which DX4WIN

erased the country name and prefix (that means they are now blank).  One 
such QSO was for a contact logged as c/ZL3HI on Chatham Is.  That is the way

the call was sent, so that's the way it was logged.  However, in the country

file, it's entered as: ZL3HI/C.  It's probably not reasonable to have it 
both ways in the country file, but it also is not reasonable to have DX4WIN 
arbitrarily blank the country and prefix fields without any indication that 
it happened.

Now that I know what's happened with many of the missing countries, the real

problem is that I can find no way to search for QSOs marked as Checked but 
with a blank 

[Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems

2005-02-23 Thread Floyd Sense
Guy - sorry, but I don't understand your comment.  I didn't import anything, 
merely copied the database file from my 6.03 directory to the 6.04 
directory.

73, Floyd

- Original Message - 
From: ON4AOI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Floyd Sense' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: [Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems


 Floyd,
 There is a way that your log DIDN'T change
 If you chose another option in Preferences|Import tab



 73 Guy ON4AOI

snip 



[Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems

2005-02-23 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
--- Floyd Sense [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now, here's the new problem.  While trying to reconcile differences in the 
 country counts on all bands, I've run into a number of QSOs for which DX4WIN 
 erased the country name and prefix (that means they are now blank).  One 
 such QSO was for a contact logged as c/ZL3HI on Chatham Is.  That is the way 
 the call was sent, so that's the way it was logged.  However, in the country 
 file, it's entered as: ZL3HI/C.  It's probably not reasonable to have it 
 both ways in the country file, but it also is not reasonable to have DX4WIN 
 arbitrarily blank the country and prefix fields without any indication that 
 it happened.

If DX4WIN can't determine the country from the callsign, the prefix will be
blank. Try entering FR7AA/E or ZL4BO/C and see what happens.  You can probably
guess where these are, but the program can't guess.  The same goes for the
various X5-callsigns that don't count for DXCC.

73 - Jim AD1C


=
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USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Feb 23 11:23:49 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Sense)
Date: Wed Feb 23 11:35:21 2005
Subject: [Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I understand, Jim.  But - you're missing the point.  I'll try to simplify 
it:

If DX4WIN elects to CHANGE or BLANK any data in an existing log record, IT 
SHOULD SIGNIFY THAT FACT IN SOME MANNER.  For example, the word ERROR in the 
comments field as it does with import errors, or ERROR in the country 
field - anything that is searchable so we can quickly locate the problems.

I don't want the program to guess where existing log records belong.  I 
want it to LEAVE THE PRESENT DATA ALONE.  If I were entering a new QSO, I 
would immediately see the problem and correct it.  However, when the only 
notification of the changes is that my totals counts change, that is 
unacceptable.

With the current design, the database integrity exposures are not 
acceptable.

73, K8AC


- Original Message - 
From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Floyd Sense [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems


 --- Floyd Sense [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now, here's the new problem.  While trying to reconcile differences in 
 the
 country counts on all bands, I've run into a number of QSOs for which 
 DX4WIN
 erased the country name and prefix (that means they are now blank).  One
 such QSO was for a contact logged as c/ZL3HI on Chatham Is.  That is the 
 way
 the call was sent, so that's the way it was logged.  However, in the 
 country
 file, it's entered as: ZL3HI/C.  It's probably not reasonable to have it
 both ways in the country file, but it also is not reasonable to have 
 DX4WIN
 arbitrarily blank the country and prefix fields without any indication 
 that
 it happened.

 If DX4WIN can't determine the country from the callsign, the prefix will 
 be
 blank. Try entering FR7AA/E or ZL4BO/C and see what happens.  You can 
 probably
 guess where these are, but the program can't guess.  The same goes for the
 various X5-callsigns that don't count for DXCC.

 73 - Jim AD1C


 =
 Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us
 



[Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations

2005-02-23 Thread Dave Jaksa
Jim,

That doesn't work for a variation of the same reason Ken's suggestion
doesn't work.  My one and only QSL for the country is for a pre 1975 CW QSO.
If I mark it as SSB then any phone band cluster spot will not show as a
needed mode.  

73,
Dave, W0VX

-Original Message-
From: Jim Reisert AD1C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:11 PM
To: Dave Jaksa; 'N5TY - Ken'; 'JerryVan'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations

At 09:30 PM 2/22/2005, Dave Jaksa wrote:

TNX for the suggestion Ken.  That would work for one of them but the other
one is a counter for Mixed.  The biggest problem I have is that if one of
the pre '75 CW confirmed countries is spotted on CW my DX Spots window
shows
that I don't need it.

Going further, rather than marking it invalid, change the mode from CW to 
SSB or some other phone mode.

73 - Jim AD1C


-- 
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us




[Dx4win] Band Master and DX4WIN

2005-02-23 Thread Radivoj KAR
Hi,

Has anybody made the Band Master spotter (www.dxatlas.com/BandMaster) work
with DX4WIN?
I use it with DX4WIN by disabling DX4WIN radio control and controlling
FT1000MP via Band Master (this requires manual entering of the spotted
callsign and band/mode). But the advantage outperforms the disadvantage, hi!
73,
Radi F6GNZ


[Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems

2005-02-23 Thread Wayne
Jim and Floyd,

Am I mistaken, or if Floyd had copied his DX4WIN.CTY file AND his .DXL file 
into the 6.04 save folder for DX4WIN 6.04 all would have stayed the same in 
his country count and listings?

Also if he had MERGED the Country files would he get the notices of the 
differences he is looking for?

Jim, I for one really appreciate the time and effort you are taking into 
getting the CTY file up to date. This is an enormous project and one that 
I'm sure has lots of what in the heck did I start this for thoughts! G

DX4WIN is one of the best logging programs out there and as such has a 
great deal of information the user needs to learn in order to get as smooth 
a transition to newer releases as possible. I am still learning all the 
intricacies of the program and have fought with my own lack of knowledge in 
getting some things done.

Always remember to make a backup of all log data before moving on and you 
can always try different methods of upgrading to see which works best for 
you as well as returning to what you had before the upgrade. No one has to 
upgrade.

Jim has a lot of good information on his web site and anyone making changes 
to his log or upgrading it, should take the time to read all 
the  information they can find about the process before doing it.

Thanks for all your help and work with DX4WIN Jim.

73,

Wayne  WA1PMA


At 08:12 AM 2/23/2005 -0800, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
--- Floyd Sense [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Now, here's the new problem.  While trying to reconcile differences in the
  country counts on all bands, I've run into a number of QSOs for which 
 DX4WIN
  erased the country name and prefix (that means they are now blank).  One
  such QSO was for a contact logged as c/ZL3HI on Chatham Is.  That is 
 the way
  the call was sent, so that's the way it was logged.  However, in the 
 country
  file, it's entered as: ZL3HI/C.  It's probably not reasonable to have it
  both ways in the country file, but it also is not reasonable to have 
 DX4WIN
  arbitrarily blank the country and prefix fields without any indication 
 that
  it happened.

If DX4WIN can't determine the country from the callsign, the prefix will be
blank. Try entering FR7AA/E or ZL4BO/C and see what happens.  You can probably
guess where these are, but the program can't guess.  The same goes for the
various X5-callsigns that don't count for DXCC.

73 - Jim AD1C


=
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us


[Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems

2005-02-23 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
--- Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am I mistaken, or if Floyd had copied his DX4WIN.CTY file AND his .DXL file 
 into the 6.04 save folder for DX4WIN 6.04 all would have stayed the same in 
 his country count and listings?

Yes, that is correct.

 Also if he had MERGED the Country files would he get the notices of the 
 differences he is looking for?

Notices, no, but presumably his old mappings/exceptions would have been merged
into the new file.

73 - Jim AD1C


=
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Feb 23 13:15:11 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Wullaert)
Date: Wed Feb 23 13:25:30 2005
Subject: [Dx4win] Band Master and DX4WIN
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

if I whas correct somone told here that he was using a driverprogram
in XP to control 2 programs the same comport
maybe it is still in the archives

- Original Message -
From: Radivoj KAR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: DX4WIN Reflector (E-mail) dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: [Dx4win] Band Master and DX4WIN


 Hi,

 Has anybody made the Band Master spotter (www.dxatlas.com/BandMaster) work
 with DX4WIN?
 I use it with DX4WIN by disabling DX4WIN radio control and controlling
 FT1000MP via Band Master (this requires manual entering of the spotted
 callsign and band/mode). But the advantage outperforms the disadvantage,
hi!
 73,
 Radi F6GNZ

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[Dx4win] 6.04 upgrade problems

2005-02-23 Thread F6EXV
One mistake, Wayne,
DX4Win is not one of the best logging programs, it is THE best !!!

73
Paul F6EXV

Wayne wrote:

 Jim and Floyd,

 Am I mistaken, or if Floyd had copied his DX4WIN.CTY file AND his .DXL 
 file into the 6.04 save folder for DX4WIN 6.04 all would have stayed 
 the same in his country count and listings?

 Also if he had MERGED the Country files would he get the notices of 
 the differences he is looking for?

 Jim, I for one really appreciate the time and effort you are taking 
 into getting the CTY file up to date. This is an enormous project and 
 one that I'm sure has lots of what in the heck did I start this for 
 thoughts! G

 DX4WIN is one of the best logging programs out there and as such has a 
 great deal of information the user needs to learn in order to get as 
 smooth a transition to newer releases as possible. I am still learning 
 all the intricacies of the program and have fought with my own lack of 
 knowledge in getting some things done.

 Always remember to make a backup of all log data before moving on and 
 you can always try different methods of upgrading to see which works 
 best for you as well as returning to what you had before the upgrade. 
 No one has to upgrade.

 Jim has a lot of good information on his web site and anyone making 
 changes to his log or upgrading it, should take the time to read all 
 the  information they can find about the process before doing it.

 Thanks for all your help and work with DX4WIN Jim.

 73,

 Wayne  WA1PMA


 At 08:12 AM 2/23/2005 -0800, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

 --- Floyd Sense [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Now, here's the new problem.  While trying to reconcile differences 
 in the
  country counts on all bands, I've run into a number of QSOs for 
 which DX4WIN
  erased the country name and prefix (that means they are now 
 blank).  One
  such QSO was for a contact logged as c/ZL3HI on Chatham Is.  That 
 is the way
  the call was sent, so that's the way it was logged.  However, in 
 the country
  file, it's entered as: ZL3HI/C.  It's probably not reasonable to 
 have it
  both ways in the country file, but it also is not reasonable to 
 have DX4WIN
  arbitrarily blank the country and prefix fields without any 
 indication that
  it happened.

 If DX4WIN can't determine the country from the callsign, the prefix 
 will be
 blank. Try entering FR7AA/E or ZL4BO/C and see what happens.  You can 
 probably
 guess where these are, but the program can't guess.  The same goes 
 for the
 various X5-callsigns that don't count for DXCC.

 73 - Jim AD1C


 =
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 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us


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[Dx4win] Band Master and DX4WIN

2005-02-23 Thread Pete Smith
I think that VE3NEA has written BandMaster so that it can exchange 
information with other programs via OLE.  So a more integral relationship 
with DX4WIN should be possible.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 11:54 AM 2/23/2005, Radivoj KAR wrote:

Hi,

Has anybody made the Band Master spotter (www.dxatlas.com/BandMaster) work
with DX4WIN?
I use it with DX4WIN by disabling DX4WIN radio control and controlling
FT1000MP via Band Master (this requires manual entering of the spotted
callsign and band/mode). But the advantage outperforms the disadvantage, hi!
73,
Radi F6GNZ

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[Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations

2005-02-23 Thread Randy Farmer

I started this thread so I'll chime in a bit more.  It seems to me that
all the responders so far (including Rapidan thru some private emails)
have agreed that processing pre 1975 CW confirmations is a problem with
DX4WIN.  Some suggestions have been offered to circumvent the problem
but all suggestions have required some manual manipulation either with
the data itself or the DXCC reports or both.  Since this is a known
deficiency might it be better to develop some ways to change the DX4WIN
internals such that no manipulation is necessary?

I've used DX4WIN for several years as my sole general logging program and 
still think it's the best of the lot. But... it's maddening that doing a 
DXCC CW report is guaranteed to give erroneous results if your log has any 
CW QSOs prior to 1975. (My log has hundreds of them dating back to 1964.) 
It's never been clear to me why a program that can instantly retrieve IOTA 
designations from an external file can't use a similar technique to filter 
for DXCC award purposes. Shortly after I began using Version 4, I recall 
Steve replying to my query about why it couldn't pick up DXCC-eligible CW 
contacts to the effect we can't possibly know the cutoff date for all 
awards. I would submit that DXCC CW is popular enough that an exception 
should be made for at least this one case.

I handle picking up DXCC CW stats by putting all my post-1975 CW contacts 
in a group I call CW Eligible and filter for this group prior to 
generating CW stats. It's a clumsy workaround, but it does get the job 
done. This functionality really should be built into the code. I hope we 
can get enough users to clamor for this long-overdue feature that it will 
be built into succeeding versions.


73...
Randy, W8FN



[Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations

2005-02-23 Thread PY2YP
I second your posting.

73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar
www.py2yp.ws
- Original Message - 
From: Randy Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations


|
| I started this thread so I'll chime in a bit more.  It seems to me that
| all the responders so far (including Rapidan thru some private emails)
| have agreed that processing pre 1975 CW confirmations is a problem with
| DX4WIN.  Some suggestions have been offered to circumvent the problem
| but all suggestions have required some manual manipulation either with
| the data itself or the DXCC reports or both.  Since this is a known
| deficiency might it be better to develop some ways to change the DX4WIN
| internals such that no manipulation is necessary?
|
| I've used DX4WIN for several years as my sole general logging program and
| still think it's the best of the lot. But... it's maddening that doing a
| DXCC CW report is guaranteed to give erroneous results if your log has any
| CW QSOs prior to 1975. (My log has hundreds of them dating back to 1964.)
| It's never been clear to me why a program that can instantly retrieve IOTA
| designations from an external file can't use a similar technique to filter
| for DXCC award purposes. Shortly after I began using Version 4, I recall
| Steve replying to my query about why it couldn't pick up DXCC-eligible CW
| contacts to the effect we can't possibly know the cutoff date for all
| awards. I would submit that DXCC CW is popular enough that an exception
| should be made for at least this one case.
|
| I handle picking up DXCC CW stats by putting all my post-1975 CW contacts
| in a group I call CW Eligible and filter for this group prior to
| generating CW stats. It's a clumsy workaround, but it does get the job
| done. This functionality really should be built into the code. I hope we
| can get enough users to clamor for this long-overdue feature that it will
| be built into succeeding versions.
|
|
| 73...
| Randy, W8FN
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[Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations

2005-02-23 Thread Dusty Chapman
All in favor - click  REPLY, then  SEND

- Original Message - 
From: PY2YP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Randy Farmer 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations


I second your posting.

 73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar
 www.py2yp.ws
 - Original Message - 
 From: Randy Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations


 |
 | I started this thread so I'll chime in a bit more.  It seems to me that
 | all the responders so far (including Rapidan thru some private emails)
 | have agreed that processing pre 1975 CW confirmations is a problem with
 | DX4WIN.  Some suggestions have been offered to circumvent the problem
 | but all suggestions have required some manual manipulation either with
 | the data itself or the DXCC reports or both.  Since this is a known
 | deficiency might it be better to develop some ways to change the DX4WIN
 | internals such that no manipulation is necessary?
 |
 | I've used DX4WIN for several years as my sole general logging program 
 and
 | still think it's the best of the lot. But... it's maddening that doing a
 | DXCC CW report is guaranteed to give erroneous results if your log has 
 any
 | CW QSOs prior to 1975. (My log has hundreds of them dating back to 
 1964.)
 | It's never been clear to me why a program that can instantly retrieve 
 IOTA
 | designations from an external file can't use a similar technique to 
 filter
 | for DXCC award purposes. Shortly after I began using Version 4, I recall
 | Steve replying to my query about why it couldn't pick up DXCC-eligible 
 CW
 | contacts to the effect we can't possibly know the cutoff date for all
 | awards. I would submit that DXCC CW is popular enough that an exception
 | should be made for at least this one case.
 |
 | I handle picking up DXCC CW stats by putting all my post-1975 CW 
 contacts
 | in a group I call CW Eligible and filter for this group prior to
 | generating CW stats. It's a clumsy workaround, but it does get the job
 | done. This functionality really should be built into the code. I hope we
 | can get enough users to clamor for this long-overdue feature that it 
 will
 | be built into succeeding versions.
 |
 |
 | 73...
 | Randy, W8FN
 |
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[Dx4win] Re: Dx4win Digest, 2. PRE 1975 CW (wo2n)

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony R Gargano N2SS
I spent a number of years on the DX Advisory Committee and this issue was 
raised several times. The prevailing feeling at HQ at the time was that 
they didn't want to open it up to include pre-1975 due to the anticipated 
increased workload that it would entail. That was back in the day prior to 
computerization and when the DXCC desk was months behind in processing 
awards. Perhaps it is time to revisit the issue. Tony N2SS

Message: 2

Hello,
Can someone shed some light on why pre 1975 CW don't count toward  an 
ACTIVE CW award, CW DXCC?
Phone,  Mix go back to 1945, why did CW start or RESTART in 1975?
Thanks, Bernie/WO2N.



[Dx4win] Release 15 of DX4WIN Country File available

2005-02-23 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
Hi Folks,

Release 14 of the DX4WIN country file is ready.  You may now download it from:

   http://www.ad1c.us/dx4win/#Country

Please read the notes on this page if you are interested in understanding 
if there are any differences from your current country file.

The revision history is at:

   http://www.ad1c.us/dx4win/history.htm#15

Thanks especially to Aki, JA1EOD and Bill, K4CIA for all the new ones.

I hope this will be the last major update for a while.  If you run across 
anything, let me know so I can fix it for the next time.

73 - Jim AD1C

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