Re: [Elecraft] Antenna tuners

2007-08-27 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 8/26/07, K8TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Speaking of antenna tuners Is there any possiblity that the new
 K3 antenna tuner can be put in a seperate box and be remotely
 controlled?

If it is anything like the KAT2 then I think that the tight
integration with the transceiver would make it difficult to achieve.

I agree with you that the best place for the ATU is at the antenna
feedpoint. I used to use a remotely mounted SGC ATU with my loop, but
I missed the convenience of automatic bandswitching without having to
transmit RF after each band change. A standalone, boxed ATU capable of
being fully controlled by the K3 would be a nice future option.
Fortunately for me, one of the few benefits of having to use indoor
antennas is that I have only 2m of feeder between the K2 and the
antenna feedpoint, so the losses even with an extreme mismatch are
tolerable.
-- 
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[Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits

2007-08-27 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Hi all:

I am looking for an inexpensive qrp transceiver kit (monoband if fine)
and I would appreciate some suggestions.  I do not want to be
rock-bound.

I'm looking at the Ten Tec 13xx series adn the MFJ Cub (93xxK series).
 Both are under $100.  The keying waveform on the MFJ (as per ARRL
review) looks like key click city to me (looks to be zero rise/fall
time).

Any comments on these radios?  Any other suggestions?

Thanks!
de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits

2007-08-27 Thread JT Croteau
On 8/27/07, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking at the Ten Tec 13xx series adn the MFJ Cub (93xxK series).
 Both are under $100.  The keying waveform on the MFJ (as per ARRL
 review) looks like key click city to me (looks to be zero rise/fall
 time).

The Small Wonder Labs SW+ series of monoband rigs are much better
performers than these two.  They have a 35-40 kHz VFO.  Best bang for
the buck at $55 delivered.

http://www.smallwonderlabs.com/swl_swp.htm

Also check out the SST from Wilderness Radio:

http://www.fix.net/~jparker/wilderness/sst.htm

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Re: [Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits

2007-08-27 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 06:30:03AM -0400 I heard the voice of
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL, and lo! it spake thus:
 
 I'm looking at the Ten Tec 13xx series adn the MFJ Cub (93xxK
 series).  Both are under $100.  The keying waveform on the MFJ (as
 per ARRL review) looks like key click city to me (looks to be zero
 rise/fall time).
 
 Any comments on these radios?  Any other suggestions?

I've built the MFJ Cub (17m).  Assembly was easy, though getting the
board in the case was a bit of an adventure.  Extra fun was added by
sub'ing a BNC for the RCA antenna jack, which lead to taking a hacksaw
to the PCB;)

As for the waveform, I built it with the keyshape/QSK mods at
http://www.w1hue.us/Articles/CUB2.html.  I had a friend listen to it
on the air and give it high marks for cleanliness, and the breakin is
VERY fast and clean.  Thumping is fairly significant with no antenna
connected, but low enough to be thoroughly ignorable in real usage.
It took some work to get the parts in place, but certainly seems worth
it.  (n.b.: I did that at build time, so I never saw how good/bad it
would be without those mods.  Alls I know is that it was good with
them.)

I DID do the sidetone level mod included in that bunch too, but it was
rather difficult to pull off, and I'm not at all sure it's worth it.
If I had it to do over again, I'm pretty sure I'd skip that part.

The power output is significantly less than I was expecting.  I'm not
quite sure why.  Casual checking didn't revealed anything, and I
haven't had time to do more rigorous tracing.  I also plan on doing
the tuning linearization mod (see around same W1HUE site) at some
point, both for the linearization and cutting down the tuning range a
bit.  Sadly, my radio time is near zilch of late   :|


Obligatory Elecraft tie-in to justify the list space: I warmed up for
the build with, and used in the build/testing, a DL-1   8-}


-- 
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[Elecraft] FOR SALE: KX-1, Scout, Globe Matcher Sr.

2007-08-27 Thread Michael, Dana A

FOR SALE:

Elecraft KX-1, KXB30 and manual.   $325

Ten-Tec Scout 555 with noise blanker, Mic, 80m, 20m, 10M band modules
and manual.   $375

WRL Electronics Globe Matcher, Sr.  Model AT-4 antenna matcher and
manual. $125

Plus actual shipping.

TNX es 73,
D. A. Mike Michael W3TS
129 Church Lane
Halifax, Pa. 17032-8372

Work 1-717-810-2860 from 7AM to 3PM EDT
Home 1-717-896-3973 from 4PM to 10PM EDT

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for August 26th 27th, 2007

2007-08-27 Thread Goody K3NG

Minor update:

K3NG - Goody - K1 #505

Thanks for hearing me!

72
Goody
K3NG

Kevin Rock wrote:

Good Evening,
   Yeowch!  By the end of the 40 meter net my head was starting to 
hurt.  I just spent a few minutes on the deck listening to the trees 
and watching it get dark.  I reported S7 noise which is very unusual 
considering those storms are very far to my east.  Hopefully I heard 
you calling but there were a lot of stations on the air which were not 
very strong.


   On to the lists =

On 14050 kHz at 2300z:
W3MC - Mike - MD - K2 - 5568
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K2 - 5138
K1EV - Bill - CT - K2 - 2152
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031
K2HYD - Ray - NC - KX1 - 608
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993
AK2B - Tom - NY - K2 - 4482
EI6IZ - Brendan - Ireland - K2 - 1642
WB3AAL - Ron - PA - K2 - 1392
NO8V - John - MI - Kenwood with K2 in waiting
K3NG - Goody - PA - K2 - 5056
N7KRT - Jeff - NV - K2 - 5471
K4TO - Dave - KY - Ten Tec Orion
N5SM - Scott - TX - K2 - 5846
K5NU - Mike - TX - K2 - 381
W8SU - Bob - OH - K2 - 6146
W3MC - Mike - MD - K1 - ?  Or is it KX1 - 1797?

On 7045 kHz at 0200z:
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K2 - 5345
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K2 - 5138
WD4LST - Pete - FL - K2 - 5813
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031
K6YUU - Yuki - CA - K2 - 3121
KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798
KT5E - Jay - CO - K2 - 5037
K9ZTV - Kent - MOQNI #10!
K1THP - Dave - CT - K2 - 3942QNI #20!!
W0JFR - John - CO - ?
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866QNI #75
N8DQU - Allan - MI - ?
K4TO - Dave - KY - Ten Tec Orion QNI #20!!
K5NU - Mike - TX - K2 - 381
NI0C - Chuck - MO - K2 - 5853
AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993 QNI #115!
WA6TQJ - Gary - CA - ?

   My headache is not going away.  I think I will cut this short and 
get to bed so I can get up for work early tomorrow.  I am not sure if 
I dug deep enough for all the information.  It may still be in my 
notes but was not readily available on the first search.  I'll see if 
I can find some time tomorrow to get some of the blanks filled in.

   Until next week stay well and out of the way of tornados!
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class)


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Re: [Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits

2007-08-27 Thread Dan KB6NU
Check out qrpkits.com. The DC20A, DC30A, and DC40A are only $40,  
including shipping!


73!

Dan KB6NU
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Read my ham radio blog at www.kb6nu.com
LET'S GET MORE KIDS INTO HAM RADIO!





On Aug 27, 2007, at 6:30 AM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:


Hi all:

I am looking for an inexpensive qrp transceiver kit (monoband if fine)
and I would appreciate some suggestions.  I do not want to be
rock-bound.

I'm looking at the Ten Tec 13xx series adn the MFJ Cub (93xxK series).
 Both are under $100.  The keying waveform on the MFJ (as per ARRL
review) looks like key click city to me (looks to be zero rise/fall
time).

Any comments on these radios?  Any other suggestions?

Thanks!
de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits

2007-08-27 Thread Brett gazdzinski
 
Look for a used emtech.
Very good rig for the money, my only beef with the
one I built was it has a bit of background hiss.
The variable filter worked well, a real VFO (stable), room
for a big battery inside, along with a charging circuit, 5 watts
out, very nice

Not sure if they still make new kits, maybe only for 20 meters.

Almost elecraft like, without the computer control...

Brett
N2DTS



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:30 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits
 
 Hi all:
 
 I am looking for an inexpensive qrp transceiver kit (monoband if fine)
 and I would appreciate some suggestions.  I do not want to be
 rock-bound.
 
 I'm looking at the Ten Tec 13xx series adn the MFJ Cub (93xxK series).
  Both are under $100.  The keying waveform on the MFJ (as per ARRL
 review) looks like key click city to me (looks to be zero rise/fall
 time).
 
 Any comments on these radios?  Any other suggestions?
 
 Thanks!
 de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits

2007-08-27 Thread Brett gazdzinski
 
Unlike most of the other kits, the emtech has
a wide range VFO that covers almost the entire
band you pick, not just 25 Khz or so.
I never noticed any real drift with it.
It has a nice reduction drive also...

Brett
N2DTS

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett 
 gazdzinski
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:30 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits
 
  
 Look for a used emtech.
 Very good rig for the money, my only beef with the
 one I built was it has a bit of background hiss.
 The variable filter worked well, a real VFO (stable), room
 for a big battery inside, along with a charging circuit, 5 watts
 out, very nice
 
 Not sure if they still make new kits, maybe only for 20 meters.
 
 Almost elecraft like, without the computer control...
 
 Brett
 N2DTS
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:30 AM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits
  
  Hi all:
  
  I am looking for an inexpensive qrp transceiver kit 
 (monoband if fine)
  and I would appreciate some suggestions.  I do not want to be
  rock-bound.
  
  I'm looking at the Ten Tec 13xx series adn the MFJ Cub 
 (93xxK series).
   Both are under $100.  The keying waveform on the MFJ (as per ARRL
  review) looks like key click city to me (looks to be zero rise/fall
  time).
  
  Any comments on these radios?  Any other suggestions?
  
  Thanks!
  de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] K2 AGC, Seems a bit soft

2007-08-27 Thread Darwin, Keith
Yes, Paul the K2's AGC is definitely soft.  Soft in that it has some
slope to it with quiet signals sounding quieter than loud.

And I love it that way.  In fact that is one of a handful of factors
that make the K2 such a sweet sounding radio and such a pleasure to
listen to.  I've had rigs (good rigs) with hard AGCs and they leave me
feeling assaulted after a whle under the headphones.

Obviously, this is only my opinion, and YMHV (your mileage has varied) -
but in my book the K2's AGC is top notch.

73!

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -

-Original Message-

While some folks like a slightly soft AGC in the receiver, I'm one of
those folks that finds that soft signals received softer than loud
signals (especially SSB) is tiring. I prefer a very stiff and level AGC.
Mind you, this has nothing to do with the fast/slow delay rates or
anything along those lines.

-Paul Pollock KD7BWB
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[Elecraft] K2: different power drain

2007-08-27 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
hello K2-specialists, 

I have a question regarding the reading of the internal ampere meter.
When I tune the radio with max. power, I see different readings on 
the various bands. On 40m I see 1.8 A, on 30m 2.1 A and on 20m 2.5A
Is this normal or a sign of a problem or mis-allignment?


73! de Werner SV9/OE9FWV/p



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RE: [Elecraft] Antenna tuners

2007-08-27 Thread Craig D. Smith
 A standalone, boxed ATU capable of
 being fully controlled by the K3 would be a nice future option.

I agree.  I suggested a remote tuner as a K3 option some time ago, but I
know the plate is full at Aptos.  I have an Icom AH-4 that I use with my
IC-7000 in a remote configuration with my ladder line fed multiband doublet,
and it is a really slick setup - both in terms of performance and
convenience.  Don't know what I'll do when I get my K3.  SGC to me doesn't
seem like a viable option.  If you look at the power ratings for most of
their tuners they are rated at 80W CW max.  They have one that is rated for
over 100W CW, but it is almost $1000.  And they haven't released a new
product in several years which makes one wonder about their commitment to
the amateur market.  A remote automatic tuner that operates seamlessly with
the K3 would be a great option for Elecraft to consider.

73
  ... Craig  AC0DS


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 AGC, Seems a bit soft

2007-08-27 Thread Dale Boresz
I completely agree about the K2's great sounding AGC. The fact that 
there *is* some slope to the AGC to still allow the perception of 
various signal levels while still maintaining control, is a testament to 
the radio's excellent dynamic range. IMHO, it actually reduces listening 
fatigue by  not excessively raising the noise floor for weak signals.


73, Dale
WA8SRA

Darwin, Keith wrote:

Yes, Paul the K2's AGC is definitely soft.  Soft in that it has some
slope to it with quiet signals sounding quieter than loud.

And I love it that way.  In fact that is one of a handful of factors
that make the K2 such a sweet sounding radio and such a pleasure to
listen to.  I've had rigs (good rigs) with hard AGCs and they leave me
feeling assaulted after a whle under the headphones.

Obviously, this is only my opinion, and YMHV (your mileage has varied) -
but in my book the K2's AGC is top notch.

73!

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -

-Original Message-

While some folks like a slightly soft AGC in the receiver, I'm one of
those folks that finds that soft signals received softer than loud
signals (especially SSB) is tiring. I prefer a very stiff and level AGC.
Mind you, this has nothing to do with the fast/slow delay rates or
anything along those lines.

-Paul Pollock KD7BWB
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: different power drain

2007-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Warner,

That is quite normal.  The transmit signal chain does vary in gain from 
band to band, and is usually greater on 40 meters - the result is that 
less current is consumed for any given power level if the gain is 
higher.  The K2 power control circuit keeps the power constant even 
though the per band gain varies.


Another subtle (and somewhat related) observation  that can be made as a 
result of the power control circuits is that the power will stay the 
same as the power supply voltage is changed - if the power supply 
voltage is decreased, the K2 current consumption will increase to 
maintain the requested power output level.


73,
Don W3FPR

Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
hello K2-specialists, 


I have a question regarding the reading of the internal ampere meter.
When I tune the radio with max. power, I see different readings on 
the various bands. On 40m I see 1.8 A, on 30m 2.1 A and on 20m 2.5A

Is this normal or a sign of a problem or mis-allignment?


  

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Re: [Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits

2007-08-27 Thread Curt Milton
Doug

part of the choice may be whether you want to build
the unit yourself vs. buying something someone else
already built to operate with.  

if you truly want to experience building the rig, it
will limit your choices.  

TT1300-series.  looks great on paper, good value over
all.  i have a 1340 - here are the limitations:

(1) the xtals in the kit are not well matched, so your
filter may be a bit wider than some other rigs.  

(2) the parts placement of the transmitter output
matching circuitry is not ideal.  check N5ESE's
website for how to address this.  i found there is one
ferrite transformer involved, and its positioning 
orientation relative to the other inductors is the
most critical (in my experience).  

(3) the PA bias network is not ideal, but it can be
fixed

(4) the single FET mixer in the receiver is cute but
not the highest performance.  it does work though.  

(5) the final assembly design of the rig is a pain if
you have to dissemble it for mods or debugging.  

the bottom line is the TenTec won't work well as
readily as a more refined kit, but with patience it
can be a decent rig.  

note some choices suggested are direct conversion -
great for a building experience but not as fun to use
on congested bands.  

if you really expect to do some portable operating,
rethink your expenditure into a simple rig vs. a K1 or
KX1.  

73, curt

--- DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all:
 
 I am looking for an inexpensive qrp transceiver kit
 (monoband if fine)
 and I would appreciate some suggestions.  I do not
 want to be
 rock-bound.
 
 I'm looking at the Ten Tec 13xx series adn the MFJ
 Cub (93xxK series).
  Both are under $100.  The keying waveform on the
 MFJ (as per ARRL
 review) looks like key click city to me (looks to be
 zero rise/fall
 time).
 
 Any comments on these radios?  Any other
 suggestions?
 
 Thanks!
 de Doug KR2Q
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[Elecraft] K2 - Alignment/Test Part II

2007-08-27 Thread JT Croteau
Just completed assembly of the RF Board, Part II.  Getting closer by the day!

I have the counter probe on TP3 and measuring 12099 kHz as I should
according to the manual.  However, it is changing back and forth
somewhat rapidly between 12099.28 and 12099.29 kHz.  Is this normal or
do I have something wrong with the PLL Reference Oscillator?

Thanks

-- 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Alignment/Test Part II

2007-08-27 Thread Tree
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 12:16:17PM -0400, JT Croteau wrote:

 I have the counter probe on TP3 and measuring 12099 kHz as I should
 according to the manual.  However, it is changing back and forth
 somewhat rapidly between 12099.28 and 12099.29 kHz.  Is this normal or
 do I have something wrong with the PLL Reference Oscillator?

This is normal.  The frequency isn't changing - it is just that you 
occasionally have one more - or less - count during the gate time of
the frequency counter.  

Tree N6TR
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[Elecraft] KPA100 Amplifier Keying

2007-08-27 Thread Bob Evans
I've just installed the KPA100UPKT to bring #4687 up to date.  Apparently, I
messed up the amp keying circuit somehow.  It now keys and unkeys with each
dot and dash.  Changing the TR time has no effect on the amp keying.  Even
when I set the TR to 1 second, the rig holds in transmit, but the amp unkeys
between elements.  I plug the amp into my other K2/100, and things work
perfectly, so I know it isn't the amp.  I've put an ohm meter on the amp key
line and it shows the keyed line to be performing correctly, i.e. holding
zero ohms until the TR releases.
 
Any ideas?  Have I damaged Q9 so that it won't handle the current/voltage of
my AL-80B anymore, yet it gives good readings on my VOM?
 
Thanks,
Bob Evans, K5WA
 
 
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[Elecraft] K3 test results?

2007-08-27 Thread Brett gazdzinski
I have been trying to figure out where the 
K3 will fall in the Sherwood receiver test data chart.

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

The info on the Elecraft web page for the K3 is
different, and I am not sure how one compares...

K3 sensitivity is listed as -136, while the Sherwood page shows microvolt's.
Would that correspond to the Sherwood noise floor?
What about the preamp?
 

None of the other stuff makes much sense, like ultimate filter rejection,
good seems to be 130 db, I guess nothing on the elecraft web page
lists that.

Can anyone match terms, or would Sherwood have to test a K3
their way?

I expect to get my K3 any day nowbut wonder about the
actual test results which might not come out for months
I would guess...

It would be real nice if the K3 was at the top of Sherwood's list!

Brett
N2DTS
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Alignment/Test Part II

2007-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

JT,

That is the 'last digit indecision' type flicker, and it is not 
avoidable in a digital display except for really high end and expensive 
equipment.  The actual frequency is in between 12099.28 and 12099.29 and 
the gate interval of the counter sometimes picks up one more cycle than 
at other times.


Rapid variations in the higher order digits are an indication of a 
problem, but no problem when just the last digit is flickering between 2 
consecutive digits.


73,
Don W3FPR

JT Croteau wrote:

Just completed assembly of the RF Board, Part II.  Getting closer by the day!

I have the counter probe on TP3 and measuring 12099 kHz as I should
according to the manual.  However, it is changing back and forth
somewhat rapidly between 12099.28 and 12099.29 kHz.  Is this normal or
do I have something wrong with the PLL Reference Oscillator?

Thanks

  

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[Elecraft] K3's shipping end August ??

2007-08-27 Thread robert hammond
Hi,
With the first batch of K3 radios due to ship in 5 days time, I have seen no 
further updates on shipping status since the 23rd July. 
 
Do I assume that no news is good news and everything is on schedule?
 
I wait in eager anticipation 
 
73 
Bob G4DBW


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 Amplifier Keying

2007-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bob,

Is one K2 set for 8R HOLD and the other 8R Normal?
You should have them both set for 8R HOLD to get the amp keying circuit 
to hold in during keying.


You might also look for a sneak ground path between the K2/100 and the 
amplifier.  Your ohmmeter says the AMP should stay keyed, but it 
actually does not - so the answer may be in the return path for the 
amplifier relay - be certain the amp ground for the relay is carried 
back to the RCA jack on the K2/100 - and be certain that the RCA jack on 
your KPA100 has its shield contact well soldered to the KPA100 ground.


73,
Don W3FPR

Bob Evans wrote:

I've just installed the KPA100UPKT to bring #4687 up to date.  Apparently, I
messed up the amp keying circuit somehow.  It now keys and unkeys with each
dot and dash.  Changing the TR time has no effect on the amp keying.  Even
when I set the TR to 1 second, the rig holds in transmit, but the amp unkeys
between elements.  I plug the amp into my other K2/100, and things work
perfectly, so I know it isn't the amp.  I've put an ohm meter on the amp key
line and it shows the keyed line to be performing correctly, i.e. holding
zero ohms until the TR releases.

  

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[Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits

2007-08-27 Thread Bill Tippett



If you're not afraid of SMD:

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/4758

KD1JV  now has a new ATS-3B with additional features:

http://kd1jv.qrpradio.com/

The ATS-3B--the worlds smallest and lightest multi-band CW HF rig. 
This latest version of the popular AT Sprint CW transceiver now 
covers 80 through 15 meters, using plug in filter modules (not 
shown). A single digit LED display has been added for frequency and 
battery voltage readout. (in addition to Morse annunciation). Over 
current detection has been added to protect the PA. The transmitter 
produces 2.5 watts out with just a 9 volt supply--on all bands. 
Supply voltage can range from as little as 6 volts to a maximum of 
12. An improved PA keying circuit ensures consistent rise and fall 
times of the CW output signal, regardless of supply 
voltage.   Available early September, 2007 for $190.00


I've built both the ATS-2 and ATS-3 and SMD is not
difficult if you have a fine point soldering iron, magnifying visor,
good lighting, etc.  These rigs or ultralight variants are always
the Adventure Radio Society's Spartan Sprint winners, usually
with a total weight under 3 ounces including battery, key,
earphones and of course the rig itself!

73,  Bill  W4ZV

P.S.  I find it interesting that Elecraft now says they
may someday have SMD kits, which is a change from
past statements.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 test results?

2007-08-27 Thread Augie Hansen

Brett gazdzinski wrote:

...
Can anyone match terms, or would Sherwood have to test a K3
their way?
  


I talked with Rob at a recent ham radio swap meet here in Colorado. He 
is currently testing the latest SDR offering from FlexRadio Systems, and 
he will be getting a K3 to test as soon as Elecraft says it's ready for 
prime time. He will test it the same way he has tested every other 
transceiver on his list.


Back around 1990 Rob and I tested my then newly acquired Ten-Tec Omni V 
in his lab. It was an interesting experience to say the least. Rob's 
equipment and test methods are first class. I hope the K3 scores well, 
but rest assured that Rob will give it a fair and accurate comparison. 
And if there are any problems found, I'm confident that Elecraft will 
address them quickly.


Patiently counting the days to the second production run ...,

Augie Gus Hansen
KB0YH

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Alignment/Test Part II

2007-08-27 Thread JT Croteau
Thanks to N6TR, N0SS, and W3FPR for their explanations and reassurances.

I've just completed all of the Part II test/alignment procedures
except for the Band Pass Filter Alignment.  I'm ordering an N-Gen next
week and may hold off on this alignment until it arrives.  My 40-Meter
dipole is currently coiled up under the bench waiting for helpers to
come over and get it in the air.  The only antenna up at the moment
here is an indoor 6-Meter dipole.

-- 
JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Alignment/Test Part II

2007-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

JT,

No need to wait for the N-Gen for the Bandpass filter alignment - just 
initially peak the BPF in receive using only band noise (connect your 6 
meter antenna or just a piece of wire to the antenna jack center 
conductor).   Once you have the BPF peaked on receive (this is only an 
initial alignment to get things 'into the ballpark' - peak for maximum 
antenna noise), then do the Transmit BPF alignment.  It is easier to 
observe the peak during the transmit alignment, and when that is done, 
it will be correct for both receive and transmit.


The N-Gen will come in handy when you are doing the IF filter alignment 
(CAL FIL) using the Spectrogram display - for that process,  a broadband 
noise source is best - and the N-Gen is a broadband noise generator.


73,
Don W3FPR

JT Croteau wrote:

Thanks to N6TR, N0SS, and W3FPR for their explanations and reassurances.

I've just completed all of the Part II test/alignment procedures
except for the Band Pass Filter Alignment.  I'm ordering an N-Gen next
week and may hold off on this alignment until it arrives.  My 40-Meter
dipole is currently coiled up under the bench waiting for helpers to
come over and get it in the air.  The only antenna up at the moment
here is an indoor 6-Meter dipole.

  

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[Elecraft] sierra compared to ?

2007-08-27 Thread Brett gazdzinski
The recent talk of qrp kits got me doing a web search,
and looking at the many kits available, I found the 
wilderness radio sierra, which I always liked the look of,
but never got one.

I am wondering how well the RX works, any advantage of 
using a vfo instead of the dds stuff, like phase noise
and spurs?

I am sure many here have a sierra or had one, what
do you think of the RX?

I don't do contests or worry about DX, so I just wonder
about general CW work, is it a clean quiet receiver?

I like building, I am not real fond of menus and multi
push buttons, and the price seems good for a one or two
band radio with a real frequency readout.

It gets a 5.0 on eham.net!


Thanks for any info,

Brett
N2DTS 

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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Delays

2007-08-27 Thread Jim Brown
Much has been posted here about this topic. I've also seen (and 
heard) considerable correspondence from some top operators who have 
been testing pre-production K3s under some rather torturous contest 
and QRN conditions. Although I'm not privy to internal communications 
at Elecraft, I'd bet that this testing has caused some of the fine 
points of the design to be tweaked. I'd also bet that like any other 
manufacturer, Elecraft is experiencing delays on deliveries of 
critical parts.  

So, while we're anxious to see the finished product on our operating 
bench, the second sort of delays are to be expected from any mfr who 
is reasonably picky about what parts they buy and where they buy 
them, and the first sort of delays will result in a better radio. So 
cool your jets, and give Wayne and Eric the breathing space to do 
their jobs. They have a long history of doing that very well.

73,

Jim Brown K9YC


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Delays

2007-08-27 Thread Brett gazdzinski
 
On the other hand, you can keep on improving almost anything
indefinitely.

I myself figure another month, that way, if it arrives before that
I will be real happy.

Lots of work for those Elecraft folks, the amplifier,
the panadaptor, the remote K3 antenna tuner, the K4, etc

I think they been goofing off, sleeping and eating even!

Brett
N2DTS


 
 Much has been posted here about this topic. I've also seen (and 
 heard) considerable correspondence from some top operators who have 
 been testing pre-production K3s under some rather torturous contest 
 and QRN conditions. Although I'm not privy to internal communications 
 at Elecraft, I'd bet that this testing has caused some of the fine 
 points of the design to be tweaked. I'd also bet that like any other 
 manufacturer, Elecraft is experiencing delays on deliveries of 
 critical parts.  
 
 So, while we're anxious to see the finished product on our operating 
 bench, the second sort of delays are to be expected from any mfr who 
 is reasonably picky about what parts they buy and where they buy 
 them, and the first sort of delays will result in a better radio. So 
 cool your jets, and give Wayne and Eric the breathing space to do 
 their jobs. They have a long history of doing that very well.
 
 73,
 
 Jim Brown K9YC
 

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[Elecraft] Test

2007-08-27 Thread Ruchan Ozatay
Test

Ruchan, TA2AH
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[Elecraft] K3 st TOKYO FAIR

2007-08-27 Thread Ruchan Ozatay
 
Please check the following address;

cw.at.webry.info/200708/article_25.html   (please add http:// without www)

Something is blocking my sending, therefore I wrote like that

73, Ruchan, TA2AH

K2, K1, KX1 (all full loaded), T1 and some Mini Module Kits
and K3 (waiting for second run)
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[Elecraft] any suggestions? cheap qrp xcvr kits

2007-08-27 Thread wb2srf
I have a Ten Tec 1340 (4 Watts) and it is a good rig after making several
modifications. Add a 10 turn pot for the VFO and Dave K1SWL Frequency
Mite audible frequency readout and other simple modifications to improve
the transmitter stability and get rid of popping in the received audio
during keying all very well documented on the web by Monty N5ESE .

Also have a Wilderness Radio NORCAL 40 (2 Watts) which benefits by adding
a 10 turn pot and audible frequency readout which costs about $70 more
than the the Ten Tec with similar mods. This has a very clean design and
is easily upgradable and servicable. It was designed Wayne N6KR  one of
the founders of Elecraft.

There is also a interesting  low cost $30 multimode software defined
radio kit RXTX 6.2 (1 Watt) that I just completed by Tony KB9YIG but it
requires hookup to a PC soundcard with free software.

Good luck on making your decision

73,
Bob Johansen WB2SRF
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[Elecraft] Intermational Toroid Day

2007-08-27 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Don't forget International Toroid Day, August 29th -2359 Zulu time. 
That starts tomorrow evening in the US.

Special event station W1T honors the 176th anniversary of the invention of
the toroid by Michael Faraday, and will be operated by many toroid
luminaries, including Mychael the Toroid Guy.  Please see http://w1t.org
for operating times, frequencies, and modes or listen for the call CQ T
(long dash) or CQ Toroid Day.

For a suggested Toroid Day snack, please see
 http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/circuitsnacks

I'm also told that you can wind red licorice around donuts, yum.

73,
Leigh/WA5NU
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Delays

2007-08-27 Thread Tree
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:39:58AM -0700, Jim Brown wrote:

 So, while we're anxious to see the finished product on our operating 
 bench, the second sort of delays are to be expected from any mfr who 
 is reasonably picky about what parts they buy and where they buy 
 them, and the first sort of delays will result in a better radio. So 
 cool your jets, and give Wayne and Eric the breathing space to do 
 their jobs. They have a long history of doing that very well.

It isn't my place to add much data to this, but I think I can make a couple
of general observations.

I have used this radio now for some 7 weeks now.  I didn't even open it
up for the first few weeks and thus far have added one component to a 
board.  The stability of the hardware is fantastic.  This is the main 
gate I would think to starting shipping.  I believe that mostly it is 
logistics of getting the first batch all built - integrated and tested.

That's a lot of radios to ship at once.  

There will continue to be lots of work to do with the firmware.  There
are two different firmware programs - the MCU, which is what controls
everything except the DSP firmware.  These are split up between two 
different people and there are already a number of nice to have 
features that have been judged to be something that can wait until after
FCS (first customer ship).  

So - your K3 will continue to improve after you get it...  but what you 
get out of the box will be better than you probably expected.

Why - just this weekend, my DSP noise blanker was totally redesigned and
really works well on the electric fence noise. :-)  Yours will work this
well out of the box.

Hope this helps - I can't answer when - but just that the hardware is 
stable and I believe the right decisions are being made - and no, they
aren't waiting until every last feature is included in the firmware - 
since that can be updated after you get your radio.

73 Tree N6TR
K2 S/N 2411
K3 S/N 013 (I think - still no label)
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[Elecraft] K3 st TOKYO FAIR

2007-08-27 Thread Bill Tippett



Rough translation by Google (BETA):

http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcw.at.webry.info%2F200708%2Farticle_25.htmllangpair=ja%7Cenhl=enie=UTF8

73,  Bill  W4ZV 


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 st TOKYO FAIR

2007-08-27 Thread Craig Rairdin
 Rough translation by Google (BETA):

Boy those Japanese really know how to write a compelling review. :-)

Craig
NZ0R

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 st TOKYO FAIR

2007-08-27 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Craig Rairdin wrote:


Rough translation by Google (BETA):


Boy those Japanese really know how to write a compelling review. :-)


I would hope that the translator is not involved in writing the K3 manual.

Now, with all the second-guessing and advanced reasoning and justification for 
delayed shipping, I'm sure someone will advance the premise that Aptos will 
adopt an automatic update of the manualin the still of the night, your PDF
file of the manual will be updated from Aptos...and a cheery message will greet 
you, telling you what pages are new/revised.


For those that remember the issuance of change sheets for FCC regs and gubmint 
gobbleygook, this new electronic system will eliminate the remove page 112a, b 
and d, and replace with 112a1, 112b1 and 112d1, carefully retaining page 112c.
Note: take special care to insure that you have copies of 111blank - This page 
intended to be blank and page113lined, which is intended for notes.


All superceded pages must be recycled according to regulations found in Appendex 
XIX-F, which was returned to the documentation facility in August of 2001.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Delays

2007-08-27 Thread k4tmc


Re the K4.  Didn't Wayne or Eric just have a new child?  I believe it 
was named K4 Serial Number 1 :-)


I guess I will not be showing a K3 at the Shelby NC Hamfest - my K3 has 
not arrived yet...


73,
Henry - K4TMC

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On the other hand, you can keep on improving almost anything
indefinitely.

I myself figure another month, that way, if it arrives before that
I will be real happy.

Lots of work for those Elecraft folks, the amplifier,
the panadaptor, the remote K3 antenna tuner, the K4, etc

I think they been goofing off, sleeping and eating even!

Brett
N2DTS




Much has been posted here about this topic. I've also seen (and
heard) considerable correspondence from some top operators who have
been testing pre-production K3s under some rather torturous contest
and QRN conditions. Although I'm not privy to internal communications
at Elecraft, I'd bet that this testing has caused some of the fine
points of the design to be tweaked. I'd also bet that like any other
manufacturer, Elecraft is experiencing delays on deliveries of
critical parts.

So, while we're anxious to see the finished product on our operating
bench, the second sort of delays are to be expected from any mfr who
is reasonably picky about what parts they buy and where they buy
them, and the first sort of delays will result in a better radio. So
cool your jets, and give Wayne and Eric the breathing space to do
their jobs. They have a long history of doing that very well.

73,

Jim Brown K9YC




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[Elecraft] K3 st TOKYO FAIR

2007-08-27 Thread wb2srf

Reminds me when I worked for the Japanese at Panasonic in the late
1980's. We would be handed technical documentation and asked to please
correct the english.

We called their attempt at english   Jenglish  for Japanese English it
was quite a headache at times to understand what was meant to rewrite
documents useful for the US market.

73,
Bob Johansen WB2SRF 
K2 S/N 5622
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[Elecraft] K3 delivery

2007-08-27 Thread Scott McDowell

Hi
I just ordered my K3 today (Aug 27/07) and Lisa said to expect shipment 
sometime in

November, so this might give you some idea of when to expect yours.
73
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 st TOKYO FAIR

2007-08-27 Thread Ken Bessler


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[Elecraft] K3 st TOKYO FAIR

2007-08-27 Thread Bill Tippett

 Boy those Japanese really know how to write a compelling review.

 I would hope that the translator is not involved in writing the K3 manual.

 We called their attempt at english Jenglish

What a bunch of smarties.  Google's translation
is by computer and a BETA at that.  If you don't like it,
write your own translation program...or share your Japanese
with us.  Google does an amazing job considering it's
translating Kanji characters and all done in software.

It's an American computer company translating and
not a Japanese person, so spare me the snide comments.

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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[Elecraft] checking

2007-08-27 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Just checking if my e-mail comes through.

73 Arie PA3A

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[Elecraft] K2 - Adjusting L34 with Spectrogram

2007-08-27 Thread JT Croteau
Decided to try pre-aligning L34 using Spectrogram.  However, I've
never played with Spectrogram or anything of the like before.

This screenshot shows the best Signal to Noise ratio I could come up
with.  Does this look about right?

http://tinyurl.com/3bd3m2

Internal signal was found right at 7 MHz and I have FL1 (1.50)
selected per the recommendation of KE0Z.  The -53 dB spike at ~1152 Hz
is oddly interesting to me, is this normal?

Thanks

-- 
JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH
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[Elecraft] K3 DVR and subRX ship dates

2007-08-27 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
I note that the ship dates for the DVR and the subRX are listed as Oct
20.  That's really cutting it close!

CQWWDX ssb is Oct 27/28 which means (for NA) that they have to arrive
Oct 26 (or sooner).  Wonder how many will be requesting FedEx or AIR?

Glad I'm a cw-type (but I'll try play on phone too).

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Adjusting L34 with Spectrogram

2007-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

JT,

Turn the AF gain (or the soundcard line-in setting) up a bit until the 
noise in the passband becomes a bit greater.  After that, adjust L34 for 
the greatest difference between the signal and the noise floor.
Expect some difficulty in determining the proper point - the peak S/N 
ratio is still quite broad.  If you do not discern any improvement, just 
set the slug for the greatest amplitude on the Spectrogram display and 
be done with it. 

If you cannot discern the difference in S/N ratio with either your ears 
or with the Spectrogram display, then the setting that gives the 
greatest amplitude is the correct one (and it is a broad setting).  If 
your 'best' setting is very far from 1 to 2 turns from the top of the 
coil, then check things again because something is wrong (most likely a 
soldering problem).


The spike is likely a result of pickup from some local source - check 
the things in your house as a first course of action.


73,
Don W3FPR

JT Croteau wrote:

Decided to try pre-aligning L34 using Spectrogram.  However, I've
never played with Spectrogram or anything of the like before.

This screenshot shows the best Signal to Noise ratio I could come up
with.  Does this look about right?

http://tinyurl.com/3bd3m2

Internal signal was found right at 7 MHz and I have FL1 (1.50)
selected per the recommendation of KE0Z.  The -53 dB spike at ~1152 Hz
is oddly interesting to me, is this normal?

  

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[Elecraft] K3 main- and sub-receiver antenna routing details now in FAQ

2007-08-27 Thread wayne burdick
We've just added a document to the K3 FAQ page explaining how antenna 
inputs are routed to the main and sub receivers. Four possible system 
configurations are covered: (1) no KAT3 or KXV3; (2) KXV3 only; (3) 
KAT3 only; and (4) both KAT3 and KXV3. Each configuration has a 
separate illustration.


The FAQ page is at:

   http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm

or you can download the antenna routing file directly:

   http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3_Antenna_Routing.pdf

Even if you don't plan to add the subreceiver (KRX3), you may find this 
information to be of interest.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Intermational Toroid Day

2007-08-27 Thread Fred Jensen

Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:
Don't forget International Toroid Day, August 29th -2359 Zulu time. 
That starts tomorrow evening in the US.


Didn't we just have International Talk Like A Pirate Day?  Any relation?

MYCHAEL: Looks like you have finally gotten your own International Day, 
and a ham radio semi-contest to go with it.  More than that, it'll last 
more than Andy Warhol's 15 minutes.  I am s jealous.


Aghhh

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] Intermational Toroid Day

2007-08-27 Thread Fred Jensen

Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:
Don't forget International Toroid Day, August 29th -2359 Zulu time. 
That starts tomorrow evening in the US.


OK, I fell for the International Talk Like A Pirate Day [we'll forgo the 
results of that], I'll do 1300 - 1500Z as a toroid.  Getting into that 
shape will be tough for an old fart like me, and my wife has not yet 
agreed to wind the wire around me [I'm still pleading and explaining the 
relevance of all this to modern life] but look for me on 7040 +-.  20 
doesn't open for us left-coasters right now until the sun is really up, 
and I'll be out of the house by then.


I will be feeding my antenna with a K2/100 S/N 4398 + KAT100 [get that 
in, it's on topic for the reflector!].


Roundly [with a hole in the middle] yours, I remain

Fred [aka Skip] K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 st TOKYO FAIR

2007-08-27 Thread a.yoshida

Bill

Thanks for your post. That is what I want to say.
One more comment to all.
Do not expect too much for Google's translation !!!

73 de aki, ja1nlx
waiting for K3 arrival !!!

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 st TOKYO FAIR



 Boy those Japanese really know how to write a compelling review.

 I would hope that the translator is not involved in writing the K3 
 manual.


 We called their attempt at english Jenglish

What a bunch of smarties.  Google's translation
is by computer and a BETA at that.  If you don't like it,
write your own translation program...or share your Japanese
with us.  Google does an amazing job considering it's
translating Kanji characters and all done in software.

It's an American computer company translating and
not a Japanese person, so spare me the snide comments.

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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