Re: [Elecraft] K3 AF PA
I did a little more reseach and found the power amp for the speaker output in the k3 schematics. The device is a LM4950TS. Here's a link: http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4950.html#Datasheet Looks like 3.1 watts into four ohms with less than 1% THD. Is this correct or am I missinterpreting the specs? Thanks, Brett Howard wrote: 2.5 Watts into 4 ohms if you're willing to put up with 10% THD. Figure 2 watts into 4 ohms. On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 20:41 -0700, Bob W9RFS wrote: Does anyone know how many watts the audio amp is that feeds the speaker output connector? Thanks! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-AF-PA-tp16062844p16137675.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 memories
The K3 does not record the power setting in memories, nor does it do so by mode. I'd prefer it to do both or at least by mode. Storing in mem is covered on pg 16 (Memory Controls) of the Owners Manual 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Trust in Allah, but tie your camel. -Arabic saying On 19 Mar 2008, at 04:03, Peter ZL1PWD wrote: Am I missing something or is it buried somewhere how to save memory channels including the power setting;perhaps also filter settings as I have not taken note of that? It does gets a bit tiresome adjusting power settings when changing between SSB and the digi modes where I like to limit my power to about 20 watts. I agree with other posters who have commented on being able to load memories via the com port and with different configurations loaded it would be possible to have unlimited memories over all portions of the HF spectrum. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Need 6kHz filter for wide AM BC reception?
Windy Dankoff KM5Q wrote: To receive AM shortwave broadcast (at bandwidths wider than 2.7), do I NEED the 6 kHz roofing filter? The price list seems to say I only need it to transmit AM (which I don't intend), but it isn't completely clear. The manual doesn't mention it. You don't NEED it. You can listen to AM in SSB mode by zero beating the carrier. Some people claim it even sounds better. Even with the AM filter in proper AM mode you'll only get 3KHz audio bandwidth, because the 6KHz covers both sidebands. The main benefit is you won't hear the whistles as you tune through the carriers. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-Need-6kHz-filter-for-wide-AM-BC-reception--tp16136986p16141340.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 50MHz Transverter
I haven't built my XV144 yet, but I think this is covered in the Owner Manual pg 36 (Using Transverters) -- When you want to test the depths of a stream, don't use both feet. -Chinese Proverb On 19 Mar 2008, at 02:23, Phil Theis wrote: Given the following setup: K3 using transverters, with 50MHz transverter set for xv1. When I enter a 50MHz frequency via the com port the built in 50MHz receiver is selected. I then have to band up once to get to the xv1, then I can successfully band up to 144 etc. If I enter a 144 frequency, it immediately goes to xv2. What would it take to get a serial command to go to a frequency in 50MHz range to go directly to the xv1 selection? thanks Phil K3(352)TUF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: can't calibrate at 50 watts
I am posting this for Stan (shown below) who is not yet subscribed to the list. de Doug KR2Q Hi All, I installed KPA3, turned it ON in CONFIG, but no way to Calibrate 50W Wattmeter. Still stays in WMTR LP. Sticking pins are cut off on KPAI03 Board. Out of K-3 only Low Power. KPA3 doesn't work. Any advice, please. 73! Stan, K6WG k6wg at yahoo dot com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Solar Panels
Harbor Freight ('Arbor Fright for our VK readers...HI!) has a 3 panel
setup which comes with a controller and 2, 12 volt compact flourescent
lamps. Claimed power is 45 watts. Usual price is $249.
Got mine at the local Harbor Freight store on sale for $199 and was
able to use a 15% off cupon to reduce the cost to about $180 after
Pennsyslvania and county confiscatory sales taxes.
The stand for the panels is a fixed angle steel device sure to rust
quickly. I made one of aluminum angle stock with variable angle.
Measured peak power output in mid-summer for my installation is 3 amps
(about 39 watts.) The panels appear to have reverse current protection
diodes.
I regard it as a good value for @ $180. Were I to do a whole house
system, I'd go with Kyrocera and spend the extra dollars.
72,
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar power for the K2
It seems like it would be cheaper and easier to do away with the solar panels and charger. Use the money to buy a few more batteries. Charge them before FD and you're good to go. Think about this. It may even rain on FD! The solar panels would only be good as an ad hoc umbrella or tent during the rain. 73 de Brian/K3KO John R. Lonigro wrote: Andrew: This is exactly what we do at Field Day every year. We search and pounce, so our transmit duty cycle is relatively low, but after operating all afternoon, the 7 Ahr battery used with the QRP K2 is almost fully charged (assuming sunny weather, of course). We use two 5 Watt solar panels in parallel, each costing less than $40, hooked up to an inexpensive gelcell charger, to keep the battery from overcharging (probably not necessary with these solar panels). 73's, John AA0VE Paul wrote: Andrew, When reading the other posts and seeing those large Solar Panel wattages, I think they are using a K2 but with the 100W option. I can't imagine needing a 33W solar panel to power the base K2 model. On a nice day, I guessing you could hook up a 7 Ahr gel cell and have it charged with a 5-10 Watt panel and work for a long time. The battery supplies the TX power when you need it and during the RX cycle the Solar Panel is catching it for power used. You might try posting your question on the Yahoo QRPSolarPower newsgroup. 73, Paul ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: can't calibrate at 50 watts
I found that WMTR LP stays selected until you advance the PWR control beyond 12W, then it shows WMTR HP. I hope that this helps. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:23:44 -0400, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: I am posting this for Stan (shown below) who is not yet subscribed to the list. de Doug KR2Q Hi All, I installed KPA3, turned it ON in CONFIG, but no way to Calibrate 50W Wattmeter. Still stays in WMTR LP. Sticking pins are cut off on KPAI03 Board. Out of K-3 only Low Power. KPA3 doesn't work. Any advice, please. 73! Stan, K6WG k6wg at yahoo dot com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Solar power for the K2
Andrew: This is exactly what we do at Field Day every year. We search and pounce, so our transmit duty cycle is relatively low, but after operating all afternoon, the 7 Ahr battery used with the QRP K2 is almost fully charged (assuming sunny weather, of course). We use two 5 Watt solar panels in parallel, each costing less than $40, hooked up to an inexpensive gelcell charger, to keep the battery from overcharging (probably not necessary with these solar panels). 73's, John AA0VE Paul wrote: Andrew, When reading the other posts and seeing those large Solar Panel wattages, I think they are using a K2 but with the 100W option. I can't imagine needing a 33W solar panel to power the base K2 model. On a nice day, I guessing you could hook up a 7 Ahr gel cell and have it charged with a 5-10 Watt panel and work for a long time. The battery supplies the TX power when you need it and during the RX cycle the Solar Panel is catching it for power used. You might try posting your question on the Yahoo QRPSolarPower newsgroup. 73, Paul ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Shipping status update
Isn't the shipping status page usualy updated on Tuesday ? I can't wait ! Seems that Elecraft nows delivers september K3 orders.. mine was ordered on October 16 ! -- Laurent Ferracci, F1JKJ Blog radio: http://www.ferracci.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 AF PA
Upon further review of what I sent you earlier I have to disagree with myself. I'm certain that any sort of reduced bandwidth should have nothing to do with the test as I'm assuming they took the measurement at 1Khz. I know that the spec was take this way but have no way of knowing how the ARRL performs this test. I'm near certain that they don't inject a signal at the input of the audio amplifier which is what National did. Perhaps the ARRL injects a transmitted signal with a 1khz tone in it and they then measure that. Added distortion could and would be added by the transmitter and as well the receive circuitry. Even if they simply injected a signal into the antenna jack. I guess the purest test that I can think of off the top of my head would be to use the microphone feedback feature (the one that is used to listen to your transmit audio) and then to fee the 1khz signal into the microphone or line level input and then monitor the power out on the speaker jack. Its possible that this was done but I doubt it as it would not be repeatable on all radios that they test. That is the wonderful thing about test data when there isn't a specification of how the test is run readily available. (or at least I don't know of where to find this specification). Furthermore there is a possibility that the stage before the audio amplifier is clipping before reaching the rails of the audio amplifier. In other words its possible that the previous stage reaches 10% THD and the amplifier is only putting out the 2.5ish watts when that occurs. Truth is that without having the test in hand and being able to take the measurements myself I won't be able to really know where the difference comes from. But honestly 2.5 watts should be enough to make you want to leave the room with most efficient speakers (ESPECIALLY AT 10% THD!!!) :) If this power level is a problem for you its certainly enough drive to run a small outboard amp or to run a powered set of speakers. Just make sure that the amplifier you choose can handle being in an RF environment. Also you may want to ensure that the amp doesn't become a producer or RF either. Anyway that's my two cents on the topic and I'm sticking to it (for now) ;) ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 23:11 -0700, Bob W9RFS wrote: I did a little more reseach and found the power amp for the speaker output in the k3 schematics. The device is a LM4950TS. Here's a link: http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4950.html#Datasheet Looks like 3.1 watts into four ohms with less than 1% THD. Is this correct or am I missinterpreting the specs? Thanks, Brett Howard wrote: 2.5 Watts into 4 ohms if you're willing to put up with 10% THD. Figure 2 watts into 4 ohms. On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 20:41 -0700, Bob W9RFS wrote: Does anyone know how many watts the audio amp is that feeds the speaker output connector? Thanks! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
Since the FCC decided to throw away Morse code, courtesy has all but disappeared, and contests have almost totally taken over. There is little places to go and have a CW QSO anymore. Most of the CW ops nowadays seem to be contesters so you either join them or stay off the air. There seems to be no place to go anymore on HF. WARC bands? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
now there's a thought, definitely have to study for my advanced if for no other reason than to get away from all them contesters. although it might be fun to jump in there and see just what this contesting business is all about. On 19/03/2008 10:05 PM, the old scribe known as Charlotte Bob Higgins was able to impart this pearl of wisdom: Since the FCC decided to throw away Morse code, courtesy has all but disappeared, and contests have almost totally taken over. There is little places to go and have a CW QSO anymore. Most of the CW ops nowadays seem to be contesters so you either join them or stay off the air. There seems to be no place to go anymore on HF. WARC bands? __ NOD32 2959 (20080319) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 2.7kHz filter DSP FC
Can someone explain to me why with the standard 5 Pole 2.7 kHz filter the DSP FC = 1.6kHz ? Looking at the NORMed DSP for that filter the LO = 0.25 kHz and the HI = 2.7 kHz. So I would have thought that FC = (2.7 - 0.25) / 2 or 1.225 kHz say 1.2 kHz. Maybe my idea of what FC represents is wrong.. 73 Stewart G3RXQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
Is this actually true? I'm not clear on what happened in the US with no longer requiring a Morse cert. and would like someone to set me straight (I really mean that, I'd like to understand the real story). My understanding is: 1) the requirement for a morse cert was removed from the license 2) this allows you to get a license and operate without morse 3) the FCC did not 'throw away Morse', just removed the requirement to have it In the UK, this same action in 2003 has resulted in more newcomers (since Morse is no longer an obstacle) and in fact, more people wishing to learn Morse (myself included) since on using HF, it becomes clear just how significant CW is to making contacts, especially DX. So, by no longer forcing people to learn Morse, we have encouraged more to do so. In my limited experience, courtesy not slowing slipping away, lack of it is in the minority. And mostly the usage of that term is used when describing large contests where band plans get ignored. I don't wish to get into the Contest verses DX type issues. There does seem to be a concern that SSB contests wipe out the CW parts of the band during the contest. I would have thought that applied far more here than in the US where my understanding is the band plan is mandator - in the UK is advisory (provided you stick within the spectrum allocation). Contests are on the rise yes, but I don't think that can be blamed on the removal of the Morse requirement - surly if anything, this indicates a greater usage of CW (assuming we are talking CWE contests). In fact, are contests on the increase or is it just poor DX conditions making it appear that way? On the question of where to go to use Morse, what about the freq. used by FIST members. Just because they are used by FISTS, does not prevent anyone from using them (no-one owns a freq.) and if you hear someone calling CQ FISTS, work them. FISTS members are happy to work anyone and are not exclusively FISTS - and if you find someone is, then they should not be a member of FISTS, IMHO. There freq. are found at http://www.fists.co.uk/index_files/FREQS.htm 73 de M0XDF / FISTS #12575, K3 #174, HexKey #375 -- One can pay back the loan of gold, but one dies forever in debt to those who are kind. -Malayan Proverb On 19 Mar 2008, at 11:05, Charlotte Bob Higgins wrote: Since the FCC decided to throw away Morse code, courtesy has all but disappeared, and contests have almost totally taken over. There is little places to go and have a CW QSO anymore. Most of the CW ops nowadays seem to be contesters so you either join them or stay off the air. There seems to be no place to go anymore on HF. WARC bands? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
you know, once you remove the requirement for someone to do something in order to gain a qualification or a certificate of proficiency, or the like, there's more insentive to go learn it for the fun of it. if you're required to do the thing, then it's alot less enjoyable. On 19/03/2008 10:35 PM, the old scribe known as David Ferrington, M0XDF was able to impart this pearl of wisdom: Is this actually true? I'm not clear on what happened in the US with no longer requiring a Morse cert. and would like someone to set me straight (I really mean that, I'd like to understand the real story). My understanding is: 1) the requirement for a morse cert was removed from the license 2) this allows you to get a license and operate without morse 3) the FCC did not 'throw away Morse', just removed the requirement to have it In the UK, this same action in 2003 has resulted in more newcomers (since Morse is no longer an obstacle) and in fact, more people wishing to learn Morse (myself included) since on using HF, it becomes clear just how significant CW is to making contacts, especially DX. So, by no longer forcing people to learn Morse, we have encouraged more to do so. In my limited experience, courtesy not slowing slipping away, lack of it is in the minority. And mostly the usage of that term is used when describing large contests where band plans get ignored. I don't wish to get into the Contest verses DX type issues. There does seem to be a concern that SSB contests wipe out the CW parts of the band during the contest. I would have thought that applied far more here than in the US where my understanding is the band plan is mandator - in the UK is advisory (provided you stick within the spectrum allocation). Contests are on the rise yes, but I don't think that can be blamed on the removal of the Morse requirement - surly if anything, this indicates a greater usage of CW (assuming we are talking CWE contests). In fact, are contests on the increase or is it just poor DX conditions making it appear that way? On the question of where to go to use Morse, what about the freq. used by FIST members. Just because they are used by FISTS, does not prevent anyone from using them (no-one owns a freq.) and if you hear someone calling CQ FISTS, work them. FISTS members are happy to work anyone and are not exclusively FISTS - and if you find someone is, then they should not be a member of FISTS, IMHO. There freq. are found at http://www.fists.co.uk/index_files/FREQS.htm 73 de M0XDF / FISTS #12575, K3 #174, HexKey #375 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] What happened to AM mode?
After uploading new firmware 1.77 and 1.58, AM mode has highly distorted audio. I can listen to a strong AM station in sideband mode but AM, no way. All I hear is some muffled low frequency audio. Also as I look at VFO A, I see 0.640 MHz (local AM station) but VFO B shows 14.181.23 MHz. I guess this means we can work cross band. I don't remember seeing this before. AM mode used to work but not now. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) K3-100 #508/ KX1 #1311 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] FS: K1 40m/15m Plus 80m/30m
Selling my K1 with 40m/15m module plus unbuilt 80m/30m module KIT. K1 aprox 1 yr old, only listened to ocassionally, L/N condition, non smoking home. Includes ac power supply, $400 shipped. Mike Pierce KD8DVV [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: In the UK, this same action in 2003 has resulted in more newcomers (since Morse is no longer an obstacle) and in fact, more people wishing to learn Morse (myself included) since on using HF, it becomes clear just how significant CW is to making contacts, especially DX. So, by no longer forcing people to learn Morse, we have encouraged more to do so. To tell from the activity on the CW bands I would say you are wrong. Activity on the CW bands are a far cry compared to what it used to be 10 years ago, not to mention 20-30 years ago. Less and less people use CW on the ham bands! Sad but it´s a fact. 73 Jim SM2EKM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
I think I'd agree with that assessment also. it takes a certain mindset to use morse and not everybody is built for it. having said that, it doesn't mean the practise should die out. On 19/03/2008 11:17 PM, the old scribe known as Jan Erik Holm was able to impart this pearl of wisdom: David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: In the UK, this same action in 2003 has resulted in more newcomers (since Morse is no longer an obstacle) and in fact, more people wishing to learn Morse (myself included) since on using HF, it becomes clear just how significant CW is to making contacts, especially DX. So, by no longer forcing people to learn Morse, we have encouraged more to do so. To tell from the activity on the CW bands I would say you are wrong. Activity on the CW bands are a far cry compared to what it used to be 10 years ago, not to mention 20-30 years ago. Less and less people use CW on the ham bands! Sad but it´s a fact. 73 Jim SM2EKM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com __ NOD32 2959 (20080319) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- Shaun web sites: http://www.myspace.com/blindmanshaunoliver http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] yahoo:: blindman01_2000 skype: brailledude ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
Listening from my QTH it appears activity is low on all modes, including local 2m FM which died to nothing 10 years ago. 40m CW activity has lessened in the past few years, but it's still the place to be. 80m CW is sad, nothing there unless a weekend contest. On higher frequencies unable to tell what activity there is without propagation. The wonders of the internet and cellphones! Have a great rest of the week! Ken, KA0W --- Jan Erik Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: In the UK, this same action in 2003 has resulted in more newcomers (since Morse is no longer an obstacle) and in fact, more people wishing to learn Morse (myself included) since on using HF, it becomes clear just how significant CW is to making contacts, especially DX. So, by no longer forcing people to learn Morse, we have encouraged more to do so. To tell from the activity on the CW bands I would say you are wrong. Activity on the CW bands are a far cry compared to what it used to be 10 years ago, not to mention 20-30 years ago. Less and less people use CW on the ham bands! Sad but it´s a fact. 73 Jim SM2EKM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: can't calibrate at 50 watts
Hi Stan, if i did not missunderstand you, the KPA3 is not working. If that is the fact i would first of all check for the settings. A common issue with the config menu is to select io nor instead of nor to enable the kpa. As a result you will not get beyond 12W... 73 Thomas, DM7TN K3/100 #78 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:24 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3: can't calibrate at 50 watts I am posting this for Stan (shown below) who is not yet subscribed to the list. de Doug KR2Q Hi All, I installed KPA3, turned it ON in CONFIG, but no way to Calibrate 50W Wattmeter. Still stays in WMTR LP. Sticking pins are cut off on KPAI03 Board. Out of K-3 only Low Power. KPA3 doesn't work. Any advice, please. 73! Stan, K6WG k6wg at yahoo dot com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
I am a ham now simply because I became aware that I didn't need Morse - in my mind I had discounted being a ham, because I always thought Morse was a requirement (from the age of 16). I wasn't aware of the class B license (right term?) and it wasn't until I was involved in an International Scout camp at which we had a radio exhibit (RCF GB4FUN) that a fellow Scouter and Ham explained that Morse was no longer necessary and in fact had just been removed as a requirement altogether in the UK (this was Aug'03). By Oct'03 I had my Foundation license, passed my advanced in Jun'06, and then started working on my Morse (I'm still working on it :). I believe we need to find a way to publicize amateur radio more and to remove the mythical barrier of Morse from public perception. There are pleanty of modes available, some of them (data etc) do allow good DX QSOs in current poor conditions. I'm not suggesting we forget CW, I'm a member of FISTS and want to promote Morse too. But I do think we could encourage many more prospective members of the hobby if we 'softly, softly, catchy monkey'. On the specifics of activity, I'm too new to know. Is the lack of activity due in part to poor conditions and the advancement of data modes allow contacts that could only have occurred on CW before? Does the lack of CW activity correlate with a general decline in the hobby? I'd like to see CW continue and grow, but I think what is far more important is that the hobby continues and grows. If that unfortunately means people move away from CW and migrate to other modes, then I guess that's how the human race advances. 73 de M0XDF / FISTS #12575, K3 #174, HexKey #375 -- Unix is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity. -- Dennis Ritchie On 19 Mar 2008, at 12:22, Shaun Oliver wrote: I think I'd agree with that assessment also. it takes a certain mindset to use morse and not everybody is built for it. having said that, it doesn't mean the practise should die out. On 19/03/2008 11:17 PM, the old scribe known as Jan Erik Holm was able to impart this pearl of wisdom: David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: In the UK, this same action in 2003 has resulted in more newcomers (since Morse is no longer an obstacle) and in fact, more people wishing to learn Morse (myself included) since on using HF, it becomes clear just how significant CW is to making contacts, especially DX. So, by no longer forcing people to learn Morse, we have encouraged more to do so. To tell from the activity on the CW bands I would say you are wrong. Activity on the CW bands are a far cry compared to what it used to be 10 years ago, not to mention 20-30 years ago. Less and less people use CW on the ham bands! Sad but it´s a fact. 73 Jim SM2EKM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split using REV vs VFO A/B
Leigh: Yes... and no (at least at this particular instant... The [LOCK] works as expected, BUT there is a TINY (but finite) point during the transition from [REV] back to [LOCK] during which, if the VFO A knob is still spinning when you release [LOCK], the VFO A knob might allow the locked' VFO A frequency 'jump' a bit (probably no more than 100 Hz) as a result of the spinning knob. Wayne IS aware of this and it IS on his list of items to address. May not be at a level '1', but it is relatively high in priority. It's not quite perfect yet, but it WILL be fixed. 73, Tom N0SS At 15:12 03/16/2008, you wrote: Just to confirm, if you lock A and use REV to tune and slip off, you're still safe from changing A because the VFOs lock independently. Leigh/WA5ZNU Doug KR2Q wrote: I don't have to worry about slipping off of the REV button and tuning the wrong VFO. Equally, since the DX qrg was LOCKED, it is impossible for me to tune the wrong VFO. Like anything, you have to try it for a while to figure out if it will really work for you or not. After doing it both ways for a while, I find that I don't use REV any longer. A/B is both easier (no holding) and safer (no chance of slipping off the button). So...give it a try. I think you'll like it! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Why contest rigs will be needed by all.
A few posts here have recognized the general decline in activity over the last decade or so. My observations agree with those. Sunspots or not, there are less signals on the air. Less signals, that is, until you hit a contest weekend. Maybe the two are related. It takes 2 to tango. You need other stations to have fun with radio. A reduction in signals leads to less signals as folks find it not much fun to call CQ with no answer. It may be that people are so hot to contest because that is the only time other people are on the air. If that's true, then I suspect we'll see a continuation of the situation. Ham radio will shift to be mostly a contest / intermittent event hobby and less of a day-to-day hobby. Sort of like deer hunting where the participants call themselves deer hunters but are only active during a couple of weekends in November. If THAT is true, then that means that a rig like the K3 (or K2) that performs well in a crowded band will be more and more necessary since the only time you'll be able to chat with anyone is during a busy contest. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 Wave 3 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Call CQ!
Folks, it 'taint no sunspots and/or poor conditions, it is us! If you want to have some enjoyable QSO's, they're out there; I hav'em all of the time both stateside and DX. There's an ancient sales axiom that goes like this: If you don't make the calls you won't get the results! If you/we don't call CQ not a whole lot happens. You can't catch a fish unless you toss a line into the water. Throw you hat into the ring, don't just lie there in the weeds and wait for someone else to get'er done! Get on the air and call CQ. My spin, K2ZR/4 Key West, The End of the Road! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Call CQ! [OT]
Despite a sunspots count of 0 I'm seeing plenty of digital and SSTV activity, today I copied my first US station ever on 20m SSTV (maybe it's the new detector code I've been writing for the last week). Even when there may be just one poor soul calling CQ on CW there is plenty of digital mode activity going on. I would go as far as suggesting that there is more PSK activity than CW on 20m during a weekday. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: K2ZR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, it 'taint no sunspots and/or poor conditions, it is us! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Fwd: KPA power drain
--- Sullivan, Mike C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:51:32 -0600 From: Sullivan, Mike C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KPA power drain To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know how to post to the reflector and it seems some get very upset if it's not done correctly, so I'll ask you and you can put it up if you want. What happens if you take the KPA out of the software? If the radio does not know it's there will it draw any more than a base radio? K3 soon if the guesses on shipping are good. Mike Sullivan 73 W5EEA Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT - Solar panel output
We have an RV with 12A of solar panels on the roof. They charge a bank of 4 golf cart batteries with a total capacity of 440 AH It's surprising the amount of energy they will deliver, even on a rainy day. Nothing near the 12A, but still several amps. We have the experience to back this up ... 5 years of six (winter) months each on the Oregon coast. (:-)) Didn't want the idea that solar panels are useless in the rain or a on a cloudy day to get started. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: KPA power drain [K3]
Assuming we're talking KPA3 then its still physically there, so it will have some drain, but its minimal if not being used to Tx. As for posting, looked like you had it about right, only thing I would suggest is include some text in the subject line to indicate the rig you're mailing about - like putting K3 or even better [K3] at the front of the subject line. -- Our society must make it right and possible for old people not to fear the young or be deserted by them, for the test of a civilization is the way that it cares for its helpless members. -Pearl S. Buck, Nobelist novelist (1892-1973) On 19 Mar 2008, at 15:05, WILLIS COOKE wrote: --- Sullivan, Mike C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:51:32 -0600 From: Sullivan, Mike C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KPA power drain To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know how to post to the reflector and it seems some get very upset if it's not done correctly, so I'll ask you and you can put it up if you want. What happens if you take the KPA out of the software? If the radio does not know it's there will it draw any more than a base radio? K3 soon if the guesses on shipping are good. Mike Sullivan 73 W5EEA Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] 1.8 kHz filter
Hi friends, Could a K3 1.8 filter owner record and email me an extract of how it sounds like for real in SSB @1.8kHz width ? Thanks ! -- Laurent Ferracci, F1JKJ Blog radio: http://www.ferracci.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Ref Oscillator Calibration not working with F/W 1.77
I can also confirm that this function is broken in the latest firmware release. When activating the Spot tone in REF CAL function, the audio from WWV disappears. -Bruce N1RX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
It's like the automobile. Same old dirty, greasy, loud internal combustion engine under the hood, that's been around for over a hundred years. The only difference is the electronics like GPS navigation, DVD players, stereo systems, etc. Lots of lights and buttons but, it still does the same thing in the same way...except now it costs a whole lot more to run. Gary, N7HTS On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:47:27 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After reading the owners manual on this new 7700 rig, the only thing I found unusual is the Auto Tune feature on both CW and AM. Beside being large heavy with no sub receiver -- another downer is the 4 large fans and the potential to be very noisy like some of their other gear. HRO is offering it on pre release special for March. If you click on the rigs picture, it will provide you the details. Its not too likely they will peddle very many of them unless someone becomes awe struck by the Spectrum Scope. Lots of wiz bang --- if you get caught up in it :-) **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] What happened to AM mode?
Mike wrote: After uploading new firmware 1.77 and 1.58, AM mode has highly distorted audio. I can listen to a strong AM station in sideband mode but AM, no way. All I hear is some muffled low frequency audio. Also as I look at VFO A, I see 0.640 MHz (local AM station) but VFO B shows 14.181.23 MHz. I guess this means we can work cross band. I don't remember seeing this before. AM mode used to work but not now. Mike Scott - AE6WA I can't confirm this here. AM mode still works fine here after F/W update to 1.77/1.58. I -can- confirm the loss of REF CAL function. -Bruce N1RX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 SubRX Photo?
KRX3 Status Update from Wayne March 11, 2008 We expect to receive the initial batch (20) of production KRX3 modules this week. We'll post a photo as soon as they arrive. Did I miss the photos? Hope all is going well with the modules and initial testing. While we are at it...Any updates on how the prototype KPA-1500's are doing.. he asked TIC! keep up the great efforts. Larry K1UO -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-SubRX-Photo--tp16144964p16144964.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
Caution, Shaun. Think before you leap. Contesting has been demonstrated to be an addictive pasttime. You might find that you like it, and there is no known cure for this affliction. We can only treat the symptoms by applying more and more contests to the sufferer. Be warned, my friend. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Shaun Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlotte Bob Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver now there's a thought, definitely have to study for my advanced if for no other reason than to get away from all them contesters. although it might be fun to jump in there and see just what this contesting business is all about. On 19/03/2008 10:05 PM, the old scribe known as Charlotte Bob Higgins was able to impart this pearl of wisdom: Since the FCC decided to throw away Morse code, courtesy has all but disappeared, and contests have almost totally taken over. There is little places to go and have a CW QSO anymore. Most of the CW ops nowadays seem to be contesters so you either join them or stay off the air. There seems to be no place to go anymore on HF. WARC bands? __ NOD32 2959 (20080319) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Ref Oscillator Calibration not working with F/W 1.77
I must have missed an announcement, because I didn't realize there was a later version -- A bit of fragrance always clings to the hand that gives the rose. -Chinese proverb On 19 Mar 2008, at 15:28, Bruce Beford wrote: I can also confirm that this function is broken in the latest firmware release. When activating the Spot tone in REF CAL function, the audio from WWV disappears. -Bruce N1RX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
WARC bands are OK, but short paths that occur on 30 meters are very rare. It would have been nice if FCC had authorized CW dead on the carrier frequencies of the 60 meter channels! This when 80 and 40 is loaded with contesters on weekends. I still get the idea FCC wants to end Morse for good. The ARRL seems to be going along with this trend. 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: Charlotte Bob Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Shaun Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver Since the FCC decided to throw away Morse code, courtesy has all but disappeared, and contests have almost totally taken over. There is little places to go and have a CW QSO anymore. Most of the CW ops nowadays seem to be contesters so you either join them or stay off the air. There seems to be no place to go anymore on HF. WARC bands? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 3/19/2008 9:54 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
Morse IS being used, whether the regulators like it or not. For a while ( may still be?) Morse was BANNED on the MARS frequencies. Morse is certainly popular for contest and QRP use, and probably still on the rise. How much Morse? All one has to do is listen on 160 meters during the ARRL or CQ 160 contests! Too bad there isn't more activity except at contest time. I'm hearing a lot of slow speed Morse QSO's now where the old timers used to congregate. Perhaps this sort of activity will increase. I still contend there should be some small sub-band where digital/RTTY and voice modes are forbidden and there is nothing but Morse even if only 10-20 khz. of the low end. 73 Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlotte Bob Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Shaun Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT] Is this actually true? I'm not clear on what happened in the US with no longer requiring a Morse cert. and would like someone to set me straight (I really mean that, I'd like to understand the real story). My understanding is: 1) the requirement for a morse cert was removed from the license 2) this allows you to get a license and operate without morse 3) the FCC did not 'throw away Morse', just removed the requirement to have it In the UK, this same action in 2003 has resulted in more newcomers (since Morse is no longer an obstacle) and in fact, more people wishing to learn Morse (myself included) since on using HF, it becomes clear just how significant CW is to making contacts, especially DX. So, by no longer forcing people to learn Morse, we have encouraged more to do so. In my limited experience, courtesy not slowing slipping away, lack of it is in the minority. And mostly the usage of that term is used when describing large contests where band plans get ignored. I don't wish to get into the Contest verses DX type issues. There does seem to be a concern that SSB contests wipe out the CW parts of the band during the contest. I would have thought that applied far more here than in the US where my understanding is the band plan is mandator - in the UK is advisory (provided you stick within the spectrum allocation). Contests are on the rise yes, but I don't think that can be blamed on the removal of the Morse requirement - surly if anything, this indicates a greater usage of CW (assuming we are talking CWE contests). In fact, are contests on the increase or is it just poor DX conditions making it appear that way? On the question of where to go to use Morse, what about the freq. used by FIST members. Just because they are used by FISTS, does not prevent anyone from using them (no-one owns a freq.) and if you hear someone calling CQ FISTS, work them. FISTS members are happy to work anyone and are not exclusively FISTS - and if you find someone is, then they should not be a member of FISTS, IMHO. There freq. are found at http://www.fists.co.uk/index_files/FREQS.htm 73 de M0XDF / FISTS #12575, K3 #174, HexKey #375 -- One can pay back the loan of gold, but one dies forever in debt to those who are kind. -Malayan Proverb On 19 Mar 2008, at 11:05, Charlotte Bob Higgins wrote: Since the FCC decided to throw away Morse code, courtesy has all but disappeared, and contests have almost totally taken over. There is little places to go and have a CW QSO anymore. Most of the CW ops nowadays seem to be contesters so you either join them or stay off the air. There seems to be no place to go anymore on HF. WARC bands? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 3/19/2008 9:54 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re[Elecraft] f Oscillator Calibration procedure not working after 01.77 Firmware install
I had the identical experience as you last evening and thought it was perhaps my error. I ended up doing the same/similar back and forth with spot trying to match the frequency by ear which got me close but I'm sure not exactly matched. - Chuck, AE4CW -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Ref-Oscillator-Calibration-procedure-not-working-after-01.77-Firmware-install-tp16132800p16145967.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: Re[Elecraft] f Oscillator Calibration procedure not workingafter 01.77 Firmware install
I just found this also while testing FW for something else. Wayne knows about it and it will be fixed. Thanks for the reports!! Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of AE4CW Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:23 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: Re[Elecraft] f Oscillator Calibration procedure not workingafter 01.77 Firmware install I had the identical experience as you last evening and thought it was perhaps my error. I ended up doing the same/similar back and forth with spot trying to match the frequency by ear which got me close but I'm sure not exactly matched. - Chuck, AE4CW -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Ref-Oscillator-Calibration-procedure-not-working-after -01.77-Firmware-install-tp16132800p16145967.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1333 - Release Date: 3/18/2008 8:10 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1333 - Release Date: 3/18/2008 8:10 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 50MHz Transverter
Just a curious question. Since you are using a K3 and that radio has 6 meter (50 MHz) coverage included, why are you trying to use an add-on transverter? Jim KD5VXH - Original Message - From: Phil Theis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: [Elecraft] 50MHz Transverter Given the following setup: K3 using transverters, with 50MHz transverter set for xv1. When I enter a 50MHz frequency via the com port the built in 50MHz receiver is selected. I then have to band up once to get to the xv1, then I can successfully band up to 144 etc. If I enter a 144 frequency, it immediately goes to xv2. What would it take to get a serial command to go to a frequency in 50MHz range to go directly to the xv1 selection? thanks Phil K3(352)TUF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 2.7kHz filter DSP FC
- Original Message - From: Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 2.7kHz filter DSP FC Can someone explain to me why with the standard 5 Pole 2.7 kHz filter the DSP FC = 1.6kHz ? Looking at the NORMed DSP for that filter the LO = 0.25 kHz and the HI = 2.7 kHz. So I would have thought that FC = (2.7 - 0.25) / 2 or 1.225 kHz say 1.2 kHz. Maybe my idea of what FC represents is wrong.. -- I don't have a radio, so I'm guessing at what all these number mean, but I think that when you did the average it should have been (2.7 + 0.25)/2 = 1.475 It's not all the way to 1.6, but closer. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping status update
I was wondering the same thing. I keep looking for the update, but it's not there. C'mon Eric, don't keep us in suspense so long. Laurent, I ordered my K3 on Oct 13. Stan W5EWA Houston, TX - Original Message - From: Laurent Ferracci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:37 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping status update Isn't the shipping status page usualy updated on Tuesday ? I can't wait ! Seems that Elecraft nows delivers september K3 orders.. mine was ordered on October 16 ! -- Laurent Ferracci, F1JKJ Blog radio: http://www.ferracci.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 2.7kHz filter DSP FC
Can someone explain to me why with the standard 5 Pole 2.7 kHz filter the DSP FC = 1.6kHz ? Looking at the NORMed DSP for that filter the LO = 0.25 kHz and the HI = 2.7 kHz. So I would have thought that FC = (2.7 - 0.25) / 2 or 1.225 kHz say 1.2 kHz. Maybe my idea of what FC represents is wrong.. -- I don't have a radio, so I'm guessing at what all these number mean, but I think that when you did the average it should have been (2.7 + 0.25)/2 = 1.475 It's not all the way to 1.6, but closer. The math is (2.7/2) + 0.25 = 1.60 because Fc, the center frequency of the filter is half the filter bandwidth plus the frequency of the lower edge. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 2.7kHz filter DSP FC
Stewart wrote: Can someone explain to me why with the standard 5 Pole 2.7 kHz filter the DSP FC = 1.6kHz ? Looking at the NORMed DSP for that filter the LO = 0.25 kHz and the HI = 2.7 kHz. So I would have thought that FC = (2.7 - 0.25) / 2 or 1.225 kHz say 1.2 kHz. Maybe my idea of what FC represents is wrong.. 73 Stewart G3RXQ Stewart, (put simply) If the center frequency was set to 1.225 KHz (or close) as you suggest, then the 2.7 KHz filter would let though too much opposite-sideband energy. We want some stopping power down close to zero Hertz, so the filter edge is kept 250 Hz above zero. Ya? -Bruce N1RX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 2.7kHz filter DSP FC
If the center frequency was set to 1.225 KHz (or close) as you suggest, then the 2.7 KHz filter would let though too much opposite-sideband energy. We want some stopping power down close to zero Hertz, so the filter edge is kept 250 Hz above zero. I don't understand a need to lock the lower filter edge above 250hz for opposite sideband rejection. The dsp filtering slope is very steep. You can set the Orion lower filter edge to 50hz and it sounds great. 73, Barry N1EU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Solar panel output
--- Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have an RV with 12A of solar panels on the roof. They charge a bank of 4 golf cart batteries with a total capacity of 440 AH It's surprising the amount of energy they will deliver, even on a rainy day. Nothing near the 12A, but still several amps. We have the experience to back this up ... 5 years of six (winter) months each on the Oregon coast. (:-)) Didn't want the idea that solar panels are useless in the rain or a on a cloudy day to get started. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12 AMPS of solar cells is a lot bigger than the 33 watt unit that we were discussing. 12 amps X 14 volts is 168 watts. The 33 watt unit is less than 2.5 amps, barely enough to run a transceiver continuously during good sunlight. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 2.7kHz filter DSP FC
Barry wrote: I don't understand a need to lock the lower filter edge above 250hz for opposite sideband rejection. The dsp filtering slope is very steep. You can set the Orion lower filter edge to 50hz and it sounds great. 73, Barry N1EU This is supposed to be extended downward in a future firmware release. 73, Bruce N1RX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
Although there isn't as much cw on during non-contest times as there was when I was licensed in '79, there are a number of ragchews going on during the day on 40m during the day and some dx at night/early morning here in the Midwest. I'd like for the people who think CW is dead to listen to the ARRL 160 contest, or any major contest for that matter. Even though the daily activity may be down, I think we will continue to have decent cw activity in our lifetimes anyway. I think someone mentioned it earlier, and I don't want it to be taken in the wrong context, but if the bands are jam packed on 40m, 30 meters is a great band. I think it's better to go to 30m for cw qso's then it is to get your blood pressure up because 40 meters is jam packed with signals. Also maybe the contest managers can try to keep major cw and rtty contests on different dates, although I'm sure this is getting harder and harder 73, Mike K9MI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Ref Oscillator Calibration not working with F/W 1.77
This will be fixed soon. Thanks for the reports. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce Beford Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:28 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: 'K3Support' Subject: [Elecraft] Ref Oscillator Calibration not working with F/W 1.77 I can also confirm that this function is broken in the latest firmware release. When activating the Spot tone in REF CAL function, the audio from WWV disappears. -Bruce N1RX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 3/19/2008 9:54 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 3/19/2008 9:54 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT - Solar panel output
Hi Actually 33 watts is more than enough to power a QRP K2. You only transmit about 25 % of the time and receive the rest so running a K2 at 10 watts will only require about 15 watts to keep the battery charged. For a 100 watt K2 you will need about 75 watts of panels and about a 35 amp hour battery to run continuously. I know this works because this is the setup one of the operators used on field day here in Tyler Texas a couple of years ago. The panel was set up out in a field about 100 ft away from the rig. The controller was one of my Solar Controller Kits and the battery was a 35 amp hour gel cell like used on electric wheel chairs. We operated night and day CW at 75 watts out. The battery kept us running all night and the solar panel had the battery back fully recharged by mid day. Don Brown KD5NDB Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:34:21 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - Solar panel output To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net CC:--- Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have an RV with 12A of solar panels on the roof. They charge a bank of 4 golf cart batteries with a total capacity of 440 AHIt's surprising the amount of energy they will deliver, even on a rainy day. Nothing near the 12A, but still several amps.We have the experience to back this up ... 5 years of six (winter) months each on the Oregon coast. (:-))Didn't want the idea that solar panels are useless in the rain or a on a cloudy day to get started.73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12 AMPS of solar cells is a lot bigger than the 33 watt unit that we were discussing. 12 amps X 14 volts is 168 watts. The 33 watt unit is less than 2.5 amps, barely enough to run a transceiver continuously during good sunlight. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 2.7kHz filter DSP FC
If the center frequency was set to 1.225 KHz (or close) as you suggest, then the 2.7 KHz filter would let though too much opposite-sideband energy. We want some stopping power down close to zero Hertz, so the filter edge is kept 250 Hz above zero. Bruce, as Barry points out, the K3's audio response really needs the ability to extend down significantly lower than the current ~ 250 Hz high-pass cut-off, especially when the 6 kHz filter is employed. I would recommend 50 Hz, although 70 Hz would be fine if there is some inherent limitation that precludes a lower value on Rx and Tx. Since we're not concerned with the broadcast of music in our service, then the male voice (lowest relevant fundamental of 70 Hz) and certain digital modes in SSB mode (e.g., PSK31) may be used to establish the lower response threshold. Transceivers such as the Orion, Omni VII, Icom Pro Series, Yaesu FT-2K/950 series, IC-7800...all provide reasonably good Rx and TX response to at least 100 Hz, some of these mentioned go even lower. However, the benchmark of all time goes to the Kenwood TS-870S, where I've measured flat low-end Rx and Tx response down to 10 Hz (@ -3dB) and the opposite sideband remains completely filtered out. For example, if you tune into a carrier in SSB mode, you will hear that carrier down to near DC, then when you approach the other side of zero, absolutely nothing is heard. That's one Helluva' design accomplishment. But obviously, that kind of low-end response is overkill. On Tx, I've actually heard room rumble coming from my modified D-104. So, to be competitive with these other radios, this is an area that needs further refinement. And, it is really my only significant adverse issue with the K3 at the moment (okay, other than placement of the REV button). Once you've listened to SSB or CW on a clear, open band, the audible difference between a lower limit of 250 Hz and 70 Hz is absolutely amazing. It really does offer a whole new dimension to the listening experience. Paul, W9AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
There is way less casual CW operation than there was in '79, '89, and even '99. Except for contesting and DXing, CW is close to being dead. Foreign phones, RTTY data stations in the lower portions of the CW bands and the ARRL/FCC elimination of CW-testing will finish it off. If I thought there was any future in casual CW operation, I would have a K3 on order now. Dave N7AF K2 #4795 On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:50:03 -0400 Michael Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Although there isn't as much cw on during non-contest times as there was when I was licensed in '79, there are a number of ragchews going on during the day on 40m during the day and some dx at night/early morning here in the Midwest. I'd like for the people who think CW is dead to listen to the ARRL 160 contest, or any major contest for that matter. Even though the daily activity may be down, I think we will continue to have decent cw activity in our lifetimes anyway. I think someone mentioned it earlier, and I don't want it to be taken in the wrong context, but if the bands are jam packed on 40m, 30 meters is a great band. I think it's better to go to 30m for cw qso's then it is to get your blood pressure up because 40 meters is jam packed with signals. Also maybe the contest managers can try to keep major cw and rtty contests on different dates, although I'm sure this is getting harder and harder 73, Mike K9MI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 2.7kHz filter DSP FC
Thanks to all who replied, particularly Ed. I now see that I should add the LF edge rather than subtracting it- obvious really DUH ! 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Ed Muns wrote: Can someone explain to me why with the standard 5 Pole 2.7 kHz filter the DSP FC = 1.6kHz ? Looking at the NORMed DSP for that filter the LO = 0.25 kHz and the HI = 2.7 kHz. So I would have thought that FC = (2.7 - 0.25) / 2 or 1.225 kHz say 1.2 kHz. Maybe my idea of what FC represents is wrong.. -- I don't have a radio, so I'm guessing at what all these number mean, but I think that when you did the average it should have been (2.7 + 0.25)/2 = 1.475 It's not all the way to 1.6, but closer. The math is (2.7/2) + 0.25 = 1.60 because Fc, the center frequency of the filter is half the filter bandwidth plus the frequency of the lower edge. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Room for ragchewing
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT] Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:50:03 -0400 I think someone mentioned it earlier, and I don't want it to be taken in the wrong context, but if the bands are jam packed on 40m, 30 meters is a great band. I find plenty of room above Contest Alley for ragchewing on 40 meters. Look between the phone stations above 7.1 mHz Other than that, 30m is a great band. Bill w7kxb I think it's better to go to 30m for cw qso's then it is to get your blood pressure up because 40 meters is jam packed with signals. Also maybe the contest managers can try to keep major cw and rtty contests on different dates, although I'm sure this is getting harder and harder 73, Mike K9MI ___ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT - Solar panel output
Don, I think we are pretty much in agreement. I originally stated that a 33 watt charger was about right for a K2 and someone replied that it was way overkill. In practice, it takes a really good set of operators to transmit 25% of the time and few field day crews will do that. You experience with a 35 amp battery would tell me that things were just about in the right balance. Willis Cookie Cooke, K5EWJ, PE --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Actually 33 watts is more than enough to power a QRP K2. You only transmit about 25 % of the time and receive the rest so running a K2 at 10 watts will only require about 15 watts to keep the battery charged. For a 100 watt K2 you will need about 75 watts of panels and about a 35 amp hour battery to run continuously. I know this works because this is the setup one of the operators used on field day here in Tyler Texas a couple of years ago. The panel was set up out in a field about 100 ft away from the rig. The controller was one of my Solar Controller Kits and the battery was a 35 amp hour gel cell like used on electric wheel chairs. We operated night and day CW at 75 watts out. The battery kept us running all night and the solar panel had the battery back fully recharged by mid day. Don Brown KD5NDB Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:34:21 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - Solar panel output To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net CC: --- Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have an RV with 12A of solar panels on the roof. They charge a bank of 4 golf cart batteries with a total capacity of 440 AHIt's surprising the amount of energy they will deliver, even on a rainy day. Nothing near the 12A, but still several amps.We have the experience to back this up ... 5 years of six (winter) months each on the Oregon coast. (:-))Didn't want the idea that solar panels are useless in the rain or a on a cloudy day to get started. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12 AMPS of solar cells is a lot bigger than the 33 watt unit that we were discussing. 12 amps X 14 volts is 168 watts. The 33 watt unit is less than 2.5 amps, barely enough to run a transceiver continuously during good sunlight. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] is here !
K3 kit SN 608 arrived today - ordered on 22 August;) Assembly should be quite enjoyable, but leisurely. I'll soon be away for a couple weeks. So the first major assessment will be a part-time effort in the CW WPX in May. Report to follow that ;) 73 ... Craig AC0DS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Solar Panels
I have seen that setup in the HF store and wondered if you get 3 12 V
panels that you wire in parallel or 3 4V panels that you wire in
series. Lots of extra options if they are 3 12V panels. No clue on
the box, IIRC.
Are they 12V or 4V?
Jerry W4UK
At 06:25 AM 3/19/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harbor Freight ('Arbor Fright for our VK readers...HI!) has a 3 panel
setup which comes with a controller and 2, 12 volt compact flourescent
lamps. Claimed power is 45 watts. Usual price is $249.
Got mine at the local Harbor Freight store on sale for $199 and was
able to use a 15% off cupon to reduce the cost to about $180 after
Pennsyslvania and county confiscatory sales taxes.
The stand for the panels is a fixed angle steel device sure to rust
quickly. I made one of aluminum angle stock with variable angle.
Measured peak power output in mid-summer for my installation is 3 amps
(about 39 watts.) The panels appear to have reverse current protection
diodes.
I regard it as a good value for @ $180. Were I to do a whole house
system, I'd go with Kyrocera and spend the extra dollars.
72,
Tim Colbert K3HX
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[Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
N7AF: There is way less casual CW operation than there was in '79, '89, and even '99. Except for contesting and DXing, CW is close to being dead. Foreign phones, RTTY data stations in the lower portions of the CW bands and the ARRL/FCC elimination of CW-testing will finish it off. If I thought there was any future in casual CW operation, I would have a K3 on order now. I disagree. I primarily like CW contests and low-band DX-ing, but I also like QRP backpacking. I've **never**found a problem having as many QSOs as I wanted by simply calling CQ or listening near the QRP frequencies, especially on 20/30/40, and that's with only 2-5 watts (depending on which rig I was using) to marginal antennas. As far as RTTY and data modes, there are very few using these modes on my favorite band 160. The mode of choice there is the original digital mode (CW)...because it simply works better in the QRN and QSB characteristic of Topband. If all you're interested in is casual CW, in my opinion a K3 might be overkill for that. You won't use the performance you're paying for, and a K2, K1, KX1 or almost any rig will be perfectly adequate. KD1JV's little ATS-3 (2W xcvr in an Altoids tin) is one of my personal favorites for ultra lightweight portable use. Unless propagation is totally closed, try a few CQs around 14060 or 7040 next time and I'll bet you'll find as many CW QSOs as you want! 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
This is a subject that pops up from time to time. You do have a point. I usually end up going to 30 or 17 meters to avoid the contests. The best times that I have to operate are the weekends and it is irritating to jump on and find the band filled with call signs and 59 or 599 reports. I have nothing against contesting but, I do think there are too many of them. I saw a recent ARRL poll that indicated that only about 20% of the ham population contest, if I remember correctly. However, they sure seem to take up more than 20% of the bands and time, in my opinion. I also enjoy QRP but, it seems you can forget about the QRP calling frequencies during a contest or any frequency for that matter. Either they occupy those frequencies, which they are entitled to do, or they just step right on top of you because, they can't hear you. My K2 helps with that a little. It it weren't for the MOJO, I probably wouldn't be able to operate at all during those times. :-) On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:50:39 -0500 Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Japanese seemed to have gone ape on whistles and bells on the new radios! I enjoy some contests, but the contest thing has gotten way out of hand to my thinking. On weekends, what used to be normal ragchew get-togethers have gotten to be battle the contesters for a space just to talk! I have also seen a lot of talk about computer controlled automatic loggers that also answer calls and make your contacts for you with little intervention. What's the challenge there? I do enjoy some sprints on QRP, but there are too many contests nowadays for a fellow to find a spot on the band to shoot the bull like we did in the old days. Since the FCC decided to throw away Morse code, courtesy has all but disappeared, and contests have almost totally taken over. There is little places to go and have a CW QSO anymore. Most of the CW ops nowadays seem to be contesters so you either join them or stay off the air. There seems to be no place to go anymore on HF. I don't think I will be even thinking of buying a K3 or especially an IC-7700 unless I win the Lottery now. It's hard enough buying gasoline to attend hamfests now. 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: Shaun Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver I'm sorry to sound like some kind of whining bitch, but, is it me, or is amateur radio fast becoming a pissing contest of sorts to see who has the flashiest rig at the cost of a new car. I for one refuse to spend that amount of money on a hobby I know I'll get alot of fun out of. I'm not completely sure about contests and what place they hold within the amateur community, but I'm sure there's a place and a reason for them. hell, I might even try my hand at a couple when I finally gain me ticket. you don't need the latest icom or kenwood or yaesu, which you'd have to take out a mortgage to own, half the fun as far as I'm concerned is working with what you have. and sometimes, that might be a pile of cow shit, some duct tape, fencing wire for a feeder and a couple of aluminum coke cans for a matching circuit, and an old valve radio that's been beaten to death and still manages to put out it's full power. if the above works, why change? me, I'm all for having a nice long chat with the fellas and working a little dx occasionally. I use to like to do that on the chocolate box but, there's too many fools there for that to be any fun anymore. sorry if I sound whiney but, yeah there you have it, my 2 cents worth. On 18/03/2008 9:47 PM, the old scribe known as Bill W4ZV was able to impart this pearl of wisdom: W7is wrote: If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a contest grade transceiver, take a look at this link. Reading their brochure is a real hoot!! During the next 10 days it will be making its official debut. Not news. IC-7700 was announced about the same time (i.e. Dayton last year) as the K3. You too can spend twice as much as a K3, with no Sub RX and get worse performance. I'm sure the contest gang will gobble these up...NOT. You could buy 2 fully K3s outfitted for SO2R for less than one IC-7700...but it sure is pretty! ;-) 73, Bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1333 - Release Date: 3/18/2008 8:10 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the
Re: [Elecraft] AGC Information Please - for the Non-Engineer
Lee Buller wrote: snip Just because I am not an engineering type steeped in mathematics, I still want to understand the function of the parameter. Many hams are not engineering types, but are still good operators and builders.. I for one have Liberal Arts background, but I do understand engineering concepts. There are others who have no formal college education, but know more about electronics than so called engineers do. So, in the end it is a hobby where I want to learn something, and if I ask a question which seems to be engineering stupid...so be it. snip Lee, don't feel bad and don't let the Engineers fool ya! Engineers are usually only fluent in a very narrow scope. Even those really smart guys need to question and listen in order to learn. I've got degrees in Electronics Engineering and Radio Engineering, I've got a couple of commercial radio tickets, and an Extra Cleass ticket from the old days. - However, all of these sheepskins are decades old. My forte is (was) the design of control and instrumentations systems for liquid metal cooled fast-neutron nuclear reactors. Not much call for that these days, and certainly not much relevance to radios! Ask a lot of questions, and ask them often, because I will be reading the responses along with you in hopes that my feeble brain can pick out a few clues as to how my radio works. Carl WA7CS In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/AGC-Information-Please---for-the-Non-Engineer-tp16031677p16149506.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
I'm a casual CW operator and I like to rag chew. I agree that there is less activity than in past years. One indication for me is that I keep working the same stations which rarely happened when I was first licensed. I am also another one this is hesitant to order a K3 at this time. The K2 may be my last rig but, then I do have my income tax return burning a hole in my pocket...but, then again, ham radio isn't my only hobby or interest. ;-) Gary, N7HTS On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:20:20 -0700 Dave Lowenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is way less casual CW operation than there was in '79, '89, and even '99. Except for contesting and DXing, CW is close to being dead. Foreign phones, RTTY data stations in the lower portions of the CW bands and the ARRL/FCC elimination of CW-testing will finish it off. If I thought there was any future in casual CW operation, I would have a K3 on order now. Dave N7AF K2 #4795 On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:50:03 -0400 Michael Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Although there isn't as much cw on during non-contest times as there was when I was licensed in '79, there are a number of ragchews going on during the day on 40m during the day and some dx at night/early morning here in the Midwest. I'd like for the people who think CW is dead to listen to the ARRL 160 contest, or any major contest for that matter. Even though the daily activity may be down, I think we will continue to have decent cw activity in our lifetimes anyway. I think someone mentioned it earlier, and I don't want it to be taken in the wrong context, but if the bands are jam packed on 40m, 30 meters is a great band. I think it's better to go to 30m for cw qso's then it is to get your blood pressure up because 40 meters is jam packed with signals. Also maybe the contest managers can try to keep major cw and rtty contests on different dates, although I'm sure this is getting harder and harder 73, Mike K9MI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] F/W 1.77 Needs Help
With the radio tuned to WWV and in the REF CAL menu, the SPOT button does not give a tone to zero beat WWV. I do hear WWV however. I have also noticed that this current firmware version has drastically cut the voice peaks and therefore does not drive a QRO amplifier nearly as well as it did with the previous firmware. I am driving the MIC level to 8 and ALC shows 5 bars. I am not using any compression. The mic is a GM-5 Heil Goldline in the wide position. The K3 power output is set to the level for driving the QRO amp to max output. With these settings I was able to get max QRO output with the 1.75 F/W. It looks like the 1.77 F/W needs to be tweeked to correct these issues. Roy Morris W4WFB K3 #323 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
If you are not participating in a contest, it is often a good time to get on the WARC bands. 73, Bob N7XY On Mar 19, 2008, at 12:16 PM, Gary D Krause wrote: This is a subject that pops up from time to time. You do have a point. I usually end up going to 30 or 17 meters to avoid the contests. The best times that I have to operate are the weekends and it is irritating to jump on and find the band filled with call signs and 59 or 599 reports. I have nothing against contesting but, I do think there are too many of them. I saw a recent ARRL poll that indicated that only about 20% of the ham population contest, if I remember correctly. However, they sure seem to take up more than 20% of the bands and time, in my opinion. I also enjoy QRP but, it seems you can forget about the QRP calling frequencies during a contest or any frequency for that matter. Either they occupy those frequencies, which they are entitled to do, or they just step right on top of you because, they can't hear you. My K2 helps with that a little. It it weren't for the MOJO, I probably wouldn't be able to operate at all during those times. :-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] F/W 1.77 Needs Help
In a recent message, Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... With the radio tuned to WWV and in the REF CAL menu, the SPOT button does not give a tone to zero beat WWV. Are you sure, Roy? I have 1.77 installed and SPOT works okay, both from within REF CAL and operating normally. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] F/W 1.77 Needs Help
This has already been reported. In the CONFIG: REF CAL the SPOT works but the signal from the over-the-air source is being blocked so that you cannot hear the beat frequency to allow adjustment for zero beat. 73, Ken K3IU David Pratt wrote: In a recent message, Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... With the radio tuned to WWV and in the REF CAL menu, the SPOT button does not give a tone to zero beat WWV. Are you sure, Roy? I have 1.77 installed and SPOT works okay, both from within REF CAL and operating normally. 73 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] F/W 1.77 Needs Help
this has been reported as a bug in the latest firmware - 1.75 works if you can revert (contact me to find out how) -- Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity. -Lord Acton, historian (1834-1902) On 19 Mar 2008, at 20:01, Roy Morris wrote: With the radio tuned to WWV and in the REF CAL menu, the SPOT button does not give a tone to zero beat WWV. I do hear WWV however. I have also noticed that this current firmware version has drastically cut the voice peaks and therefore does not drive a QRO amplifier nearly as well as it did with the previous firmware. I am driving the MIC level to 8 and ALC shows 5 bars. I am not using any compression. The mic is a GM-5 Heil Goldline in the wide position. The K3 power output is set to the level for driving the QRO amp to max output. With these settings I was able to get max QRO output with the 1.75 F/W. It looks like the 1.77 F/W needs to be tweeked to correct these issues. Roy Morris W4WFB K3 #323 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE Soldering after Crimping
Kevin, Using hot glue is not dumb at all. In fact it sounds like a good idea to stabilize the leads where they exit the power pole connector shells and keeps the pair of connectors from sliding apart. 73 Dave KD1NA This may be a dumb thing to do, but after crimping (using the more expensive ratchet type crimpier) and inserting the connectors into their housing, I run some hot melt glue around the conductors where they enter the housing. This IMHO provides support to the conductors where flexing may tend to cause failure after a time. I would be pleased of anyone could provide reasons why this is a stupid idea to put their argument on the reflector. We learn by mistakes and by discussion! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] F/W 1.77 Needs Help
David, With the radio in REF CAL and tuned to WWV I get N/A (and no spot tone) when the SPOT button is pushed. The WWV signal is present. Roy Morris W4WFB K3 #323 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 TX SSB audio changing freq. response
Anybody noticed the TX SSB audio losing high freq. This happens occasionally when K3 power is turned ON. Than I switch K3 power OFF and than ON again and audio is fine. At that point I have to readjust MIC gain UP or DOWN.In my case from 8 to 9 and back to 8. This will reset MIC amplification to normal. If this is not done than MIC amplification is much lower and is not driving VOX properly. Anybody noticed that?? Thanks, Mark Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] SDR Software and Change Management
After spending nearly 25 years as an IBM systems programmer, I came to really appreciate change control. My suggestion to Elecraft is to provide the means to store software releases so users can reload a backlevel version if problems pop up in a new release. I hope the new versions have been vetted by the 'testers' before they are released to the general user population and we don't have to find the problems ourselves. This newest problem, the calibration process, is troubling. I'd sure want to go backlevel if that showed up on my K3. How about the folks getting K3's just now. Do those units have the troubled software? That calibration routine is currently the only one available if you don't have an accurate signal generator. Just my 2 cents. 73, Jim, K4ZMV -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/SDR-Software-and-Change-Management-tp16150230p16150230.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 50MHz Transverter
Interesting point. I think it would take a firmware update. I also wonder what happens with a transverter between or below existing bands. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/50MHz-Transverter-tp16135909p16150759.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] F/W 1.77
Can anyone tell me what SSB TX power overshoot corrected means in the MCU 1.77 release notes? Like Roy W4WFB I notice an apparent reduction in average ssb power out. i.e for any given power setting, my external output meter does not kick up as far as it did with MCU 1.75. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] SDR Software and Change Management
With hindsight dual-booting would have been an option, you can have two (or more) sets of source loaded and select the one you want when switching on. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: Jim K4ZMV [EMAIL PROTECTED] After spending nearly 25 years as an IBM systems programmer, I came to really appreciate change control. My suggestion to Elecraft is to provide the means to store software releases so users can reload a backlevel version if problems pop up in a new release. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] F/W 1.77
I believe the power overshoot issue was that the transmitter, when set to a reduced power level like 20 watts, would momentarily put out full power when first keyed. This could potentially damage a linear amplifier that was designed to see 20 watts input and suddenly sees 100 watts for a fraction of a second. Perhaps this fix had an untoward side-effect. I'm sure we'll find out soon. Bill W5WVO Geoffrey Downs wrote: Can anyone tell me what SSB TX power overshoot corrected means in the MCU 1.77 release notes? Like Roy W4WFB I notice an apparent reduction in average ssb power out. i.e for any given power setting, my external output meter does not kick up as far as it did with MCU 1.75. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
FW: [Elecraft] Call CQ!
If you don't believe that just listen to the bands before and after a major contest. Sounds like night and day after the contest ends. Werner N8BB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K2ZR Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:16 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Call CQ! Folks, it 'taint no sunspots and/or poor conditions, it is us! If you want to have some enjoyable QSO's, they're out there; I hav'em all of the time both stateside and DX. There's an ancient sales axiom that goes like this: If you don't make the calls you won't get the results! If you/we don't call CQ not a whole lot happens. You can't catch a fish unless you toss a line into the water. Throw you hat into the ring, don't just lie there in the weeds and wait for someone else to get'er done! Get on the air and call CQ. My spin, K2ZR/4 Key West, The End of the Road! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 3/19/2008 9:54 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] max input voltage on Ant 1 or 2
I can't find this in the spec although I expect its there what is the max input voltage on Ant 1 2? I have a ref osc that gives 5MHz at ~ 5mV, I'd like to use this to do a ref cal by direct connection to ant 1 or 2 -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 arrived today
Brown box birthed bouncing baby K3 # 610 George NE2I ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
FW: FW: [Elecraft] Call CQ!
Hi Willis You must have looked me up to see if I did any contests. Hi. I enjoy some of the contests but I still work sometimes 7 days a week and drive 2 hours to work so I am guilty of not rattling the trees myself at times. Sometimes if I am busy but close to the radio it is amazing how many ragchews I get just by accident by having the radio on but not searching. On to the contesters, I don't hear the same calls on a regular basis that I hear on the contests. Maybe they use special call signs for contests and their own for casual operating. The other thing I have noticed is the strange propagation where I seem to be the one in a hole with nobody else to hear me. Anyway, in a nutshell, Contesters rock and so do ragchewers. When I get to do cw fulltime (retire in 4.9 years I hope) I for one am going to do my part in keeping the band busy. Werner N8BB -Original Message- From: WILLIS COOKE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:26 PM To: DeniseWerner Subject: Re: FW: [Elecraft] Call CQ! --- DeniseWerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't believe that just listen to the bands before and after a major contest. Sounds like night and day after the contest ends. Werner N8BB By the way Werner, thanks for the contact in the ARRL 10 meter contest. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 3/19/2008 9:54 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: RE: [Elecraft] OT - Solar panel output
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Actually 33 watts is more than enough to power a QRP K2. You only transmit about 25 % of the time and receive the rest so running a K2 at 10 watts will only require about 15 watts to keep the battery charged. For a 100 watt K2 you will need about 75 watts of panels and about a 35 amp hour battery to run continuously. I know this works because this is the setup one of the operators used on field day here in Tyler Texas a couple of years ago. The panel was set up out in a field about 100 ft away from the rig. The controller was one of my Solar Controller Kits and the battery was a 35 amp hour gel cell like used on electric wheel chairs. We operated night and day CW at 75 watts out. The battery kept us running all night and the solar panel had the battery back fully recharged by mid day. My experience [not nearly as much as N0SS and others] is that a good half or more of the challenges to the use of solar power is in the usage rather than the generation side of the equation. Many years ago and when solar cell efficiencies were much lower than today, my engineering team and I got the job of designing a UHF multiple repeater communications system for a petroleum pipeline operation in So. Africa. We started the design with the normal equipment at the sites that we had always used, and a humongous solar array good for about 400A in full sun with a bank of glass jar batteries for a 48V primary circuit. Based on historic solar irradiation data, the 24/7 power budget was pretty much balanced with a 40% safety pad, which was close to but not quite 3-sigma. 400A under full sun resulted in some fairly expensive structural construction, wiring, control, and batteries, none of which really impressed our customer. Thus encouraged, we undertook to trim the usage, which turned out to be the really fun part of the engineering. We got each site down to an eighty amp array with sealed, much cheaper but far more long-lived batteries for the same almost 3-sigma power budget pad. In reality, that still turned out to be overkill after it had gone into operation. I charged my 12V 12Ah gel cell with a 1A RV solar array/controller and ran my K2 at 15W for 4 hours for the 2007 Flight of the Bumblebees. I called CQ a lot. The terminal voltage of the battery never varied, and I've used it since without recharging. Every watt-hour if drain you save in drain is a smaller capital investment in charging equipment. My K2 was a good conserver, I'd bet a K1 would be better, and my KX1 could make my solar-charged batter last longer than my lifetime :-) As many of you Elecrafters as can should get into the FOBB. It's in the middle of the summer [in the N. Hemisphere], it's fun, and you'll make a lot of Vitamin D while you're knocking off Q's if you do it in the field. Vitamin D is good for you :-) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 08 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] April QST: review and The Secret is Out
With trepidation I read the article in the latest QST - the same issue in which the K3 review is published - Audio Frequency Enhancement. As I feared, the secret is out. Just look at the top cover of your K3 and read the article and you'll understand. (Not an ARRL member? Sorry, it is copyrighted material.) Fortunately, the author didn't explain how the Higgins Model can be applied to DSP, so we can still claim that competitive edge. 73, Lyle KK7P PS - Now you know why you shouldn't operate the K3 while it is standing on its side. Those little rubber feet are for protection when traveling, or to correctly place the matching K3 right channel external speaker (if and when it becomes available). Or the panadaptor (not yet available) for those who are not left-eyed. Back to my Kool-Aid... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
Yea but probably 70% of hams are either dead and not logged yet or inactive. Then you've got 20% that does casual operation and contesting and then you've got the 10% in the middle that complain about the contests. Yet still the majority of the people on the air I fully well believe participate a bit in the contests. Heck I've spent HOURS calling CQ at the calling frequencies at 7 watts and had no call backs. At times its just nice when there is a contest and I can call someone and get a quick test of things... On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 13:16 -0600, Gary D Krause wrote: I saw a recent ARRL poll that indicated that only about 20% of the ham population contest, if I remember correctly. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KPA100 let smoke out
During a QSO on 40 CW tonight I suddenly let the smoke out of my KPA100. Under close inspection the only component that looks as if it may be bad is RFC5 which had a very deposit on it. It tests at 1.6 ohms but I don't know if that is bad or not. I would appreciate any help on how to start troubleshooting this. I plan to go through the resistance checks in the build manual - any other ideas? Bill NZ0T -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/KPA100-let-smoke-out-tp16169541p16169541.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KPA100 let smoke out
During a QSO on 40 CW tonight I suddenly let the smoke out of my KPA100. Under close inspection the only component that looks as if it may be bad is RFC5 which had a very deposit on it. It tests at 1.6 ohms but I don't know if that is bad or not. I would appreciate any help on how to start troubleshooting this. I plan to go through the resistance checks in the build manual - any other ideas? Bill NZ0T -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/KPA100-let-smoke-out-tp16169663p16169663.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Firmware Update (SPOT now works in REF CAL menu entry)
Hi all, In MCU revision 1.77, SPOT wasn't working within the REF CAL menu entry. Sorry about that! Revision 1.78 corrects this and is now available. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Lack of CW activity?
40 CW is awash with activity this evening! There are signals every KHz or so! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] max input voltage on Ant 1 or 2
I had a gen that would give me 1mV and I found that it produced a signal that was so wide there was no way to accurately zero up on it. But if I turned the output of my generator off I found that there was enough cross talk across the output relay to generate a lot of signal into the radio. So its quite possible that you can pull this off. Or if all else fails just put a terminator on your generator and run a cable out of it (just a single wire). then you can run a wire into the rig and you can then couple these wires more or less to vary the amount of signal that you want/need. On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 23:10 +, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: I can't find this in the spec although I expect its there what is the max input voltage on Ant 1 2? I have a ref osc that gives 5MHz at ~ 5mV, I'd like to use this to do a ref cal by direct connection to ant 1 or 2 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Solar power for the K2
Brian: We have plenty of gel cells for Field Day, and, as you noted, don't really need to use the solar panels at all. However, we get 100 bonus points when we make QSOs using a battery charged via solar energy. You can't forget bonus points! 73's, John AA0VE Brian Alsop wrote: It seems like it would be cheaper and easier to do away with the solar panels and charger. Use the money to buy a few more batteries. Charge them before FD and you're good to go. Think about this. It may even rain on FD! The solar panels would only be good as an ad hoc umbrella or tent during the rain. 73 de Brian/K3KO John R. Lonigro wrote: Andrew: This is exactly what we do at Field Day every year. We search and pounce, so our transmit duty cycle is relatively low, but after operating all afternoon, the 7 Ahr battery used with the QRP K2 is almost fully charged (assuming sunny weather, of course). We use two 5 Watt solar panels in parallel, each costing less than $40, hooked up to an inexpensive gelcell charger, to keep the battery from overcharging (probably not necessary with these solar panels). 73's, John AA0VE Paul wrote: Andrew, When reading the other posts and seeing those large Solar Panel wattages, I think they are using a K2 but with the 100W option. I can't imagine needing a 33W solar panel to power the base K2 model. On a nice day, I guessing you could hook up a 7 Ahr gel cell and have it charged with a 5-10 Watt panel and work for a long time. The battery supplies the TX power when you need it and during the RX cycle the Solar Panel is catching it for power used. You might try posting your question on the Yahoo QRPSolarPower newsgroup. 73, Paul ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Serial #611
K3 Serial number 611 was waiting for me when I got home this evening. It was ordered on 09/04/07. 73, John, WA6L ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 Build - Back on track
I figured out the issue with the side tone tonight so I am back in business with alignment process. 73 -- John Hoaglun NG0R - EN25 http://www.hoaglun.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] What happened to AM mode?
The following is the contents of a message that I have sent to the Elecraft K3 Support group. === Since someone else has reported experiencing problems with AM mode with the 177/158 code on the Elecraft reflector, I would like to tell you what I saw after installing 1.75/1.57 (1.77/1.58 has not been installed here yet). I did not hear the highly distorted audio that he heard but I did detect a small, but very noticeable, amount of clipping on voice peaks while listening to the standard broadcast band. Reducing the AF gain down to where the audio could barely be heard did not reduce the amount of clipping so it must be happening in an earlier stage. I can also hear on the stronger stations some heterodyning in both the lower and upper sidebands (the K3 was in AM mode). It isn't loud but it is most definitely there and it starts at about 300 to 400 Hz below and above the zero beat frequency. On one local station the heterodyne sounded almost like CW. As the announcer spoke, the heterodyne would be turned off and between words it would return. As I recall , this occurred in the lower sideband while the upper sideband had a continuous heterodyne. The other fellow commented that his VFO A was in the AM broadcast band while VFO B was in the 20 meter band. I really don't understand the conditions that caused this but I can say that from time to time after installing new F/M code in s/n 148 I have had to manually go through the sequence of bands and adjust them so that both VFO's for all bands are indeed in the proper band. This usually manifests itself in the 40 and 60 meter bands, Typically the 60 meter band will have a 40 meter frequency in VFO A and a 60 meter frequency in VFO B. The opposite will be true in the 40 meter band. John[K7SVV] - Original Message - From: Mike Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:52 AM Subject: [Elecraft] What happened to AM mode? After uploading new firmware 1.77 and 1.58, AM mode has highly distorted audio. I can listen to a strong AM station in sideband mode but AM, no way. All I hear is some muffled low frequency audio. Also as I look at VFO A, I see 0.640 MHz (local AM station) but VFO B shows 14.181.23 MHz. I guess this means we can work cross band. I don't remember seeing this before. AM mode used to work but not now. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) K3-100 #508/ KX1 #1311 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] April QST: review and The Secret is Out
Hmm! Has Larson E. Rapp been reincarnated in the body of Steven G. Katz? Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:22 PM Subject: [Elecraft] April QST: review and The Secret is Out With trepidation I read the article in the latest QST - the same issue in which the K3 review is published - Audio Frequency Enhancement. As I feared, the secret is out. Just look at the top cover of your K3 and read the article and you'll understand. (Not an ARRL member? Sorry, it is copyrighted material.) Fortunately, the author didn't explain how the Higgins Model can be applied to DSP, so we can still claim that competitive edge. 73, Lyle KK7P PS - Now you know why you shouldn't operate the K3 while it is standing on its side. Those little rubber feet are for protection when traveling, or to correctly place the matching K3 right channel external speaker (if and when it becomes available). Or the panadaptor (not yet available) for those who are not left-eyed. Back to my Kool-Aid... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT - Attn: George Wedge
George, Did you receive my reply about my Elecraft radio covers? It's been my experience that messages with attachments sent to Comcast addresses often don't reach their destination. (;-) Do you have an alternate address? 73! Rose Kopp - N7HKW [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] April QST: review and The Secret is Out
T. David Yarnes wrote: Hmm! Has Larson E. Rapp been reincarnated in the body of Steven G. Katz? I think they are 3rd cousins, twice removed. Lyle ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
