Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decode

2008-09-28 Thread Dave G4AON
Giuliano are you using paddle input? There isn't a parameter to give 
receive decode without TX decode, it works for me using paddles, not 
tried it with a straight key or external keyer.


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80

my new K3 decode well the recived CW but don't decode my transmission.
Eny suggestion?
Thanks for help
Giuliano I0CG
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Re: [Elecraft] QRRR

2008-09-28 Thread David Woolley (E.L)

Dave G4AON wrote:

Jon, the CW equivalent of PAN PAN PAN (it should be repeated three
times) is XXX XXX XXX (again repeated three times), which I doubt


I believe it is PAN-PAN that should be repeated three times, i.e. 
PAN-PAN PAN-PAN PAN-PAN.  Only one MAYDAY or PAN-PAN is used in each 
subsequent transmission.


Incidentally, in aviation use, I believe that PRACTICE-PAN is used for 
simulated emergencies, and probably ought to be used in other exercises.



anyone would recognise or understand these days... Except to confuse
the call with adult films or very strong beer!


The voice ones, however, are stilled used for aviation purposes.

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[Elecraft] Immediately Exit in Rtty with Terminal

2008-09-28 Thread Michael E. Issinger
Hello,

 

is there a way to stop idle in RTTY with the terminal?

Like ..__ with the paddle.

 

73 de

Michael

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Re: [Elecraft] QRRR

2008-09-28 Thread David Cutter
I think the Titanic use C Q D which was not at the time universally 
recognised.  I think it was taught only to Marconi operators at the time. 
Some use DDD which is quite musical and I would prefer to SOS, were I around 
to give my opinion.  Someone will tell us when SOS was universally accepted, 
which I think was soon after Titanic.


David
G3UNA

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Subject: RE: [Elecraft] QRRR


Yes, that is indeed what it means. And, since it was established by the
ARRL, it's no surprise Hams in other countries don't know it.

Since so little CW is used for distress communications these days, it's no
wonder few current American Hams know it. That's what prompted my question.

Originally it was QRR, established by the ARRL in the 1930's to avoid any
confusion with a maritime distress call. (The third R was added sometime in
the post WWII years, probably to make it stand out.) Remember, ships used
the short waves too, and there was great concern that some vessel at sea
not go on alert by accident should one tune across a Ham signal asking for
emergency assistance ashore.

It may surprise many Hams today to know that emergency communications was
the raison d'être for Amateur Radio for many decades (before contesting took
over ;-) Traffic handling - mostly on CW of course - was a huge undertaking
involving a great many Hams, at least all over the USA, who kept daily nets
and schedules simply to move traffic. Message handling was training for
emergency service. Awards were given for those handling the most traffic
most efficiently, much like recognition is given to contest winners today.

Indeed, our current DX windows at the lower 25 kHz of the bands were
originally set aside for emergency communications. When the Federal
Communications Commission (FCC) declared an emergency, they were off limits
to all US Amateurs except stations engaged in actual emergency traffic
handling.

The entire 160 meter band was completely shut down to all but emergency
communications when an emergency was declared by the FCC.

Now we 'shut down' whole bands for a contest by sheer QRM if not by rule ;-)

How times change, but emergencies still happen and there are many Hams for
whom emergency communications is their first interest. They drop everything
to support their fellow Hams following earthquakes, storms, and other
disasters. Like the maritime services today, they generally use voice rather
than Morse, but otherwise not much has changed. Ships use satellite phones
or VHF radios when they are in range and working, just like Hams often turn
to VHF radios and  repeaters when they are in range and working. But the
mainstay, the always dependable workhorse of emergency communications for
both ships at sea and Hams ashore, remains point-to-point communications on
the HF short waves by any mode that works.

That need for flexible emergency communications on HF is the primary reason
we Hams have permission to share the commercial SSB frequencies around 60
meters today.

Ron AC7AC (maritime radiotelegraph operator and GMDSS system maintainer and
operator).


-Original Message-
From a Google search QRRR Official ARRL land distress call

Never heard of such nonsense, if indeed that is what it means. If
someone really is in distress they should call SOS at least everyone who
can read CW will understand that.

73 Dave, G4AON
(ex marine radio officer)

/Would someone explain what QRRR is73 de Ed N7EDK/


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Re: [Elecraft] Immediately Exit in Rtty with Terminal

2008-09-28 Thread Bill W4ZV



Michael E. Issinger wrote:
 
 is there a way to stop idle in RTTY with the terminal?
 
 Like ..__ with the paddle.
 

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_operating_tips.htm#RTTY%20operation%20without%20a%20computer

8. If you pause, the K3 will remain in a data idle state for about 4 seconds
before automatically returning to receive mode. To cut the 4 second timeout
to about 1 second, you can send ..-- (IM prosign, for IMmediately exit).

73,  Bill

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[Elecraft] K3 Loss of VFO B control

2008-09-28 Thread Tom Boucher
Jerry

I have had 2 failed encoders and am waiting for the second replacement. In my 
case, it was not due to any shorts occurring although I believe Elecraft are 
now advising the fitting of an adhesive rubber insulating pad behind VFO B 
encoder. Looks like they had a bad batch from the manufacturer, Bourns.

Tom G3OLB

I had a bad encoder assembly in the K3 I assembled recently - I 
proved it by swapping A and B encoders and observing the problem 
switch with it. Elecraft shipped me a new one which fixed it (after 
much sweat replacing it - that front panel removal is a PITA).

I suspect Elecraft is not checking the encoders before shipping them to us.

Jerry W4UK
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[Elecraft] UK Elecraft net report for Sunday 28th September

2008-09-28 Thread Dave G4AON
Two of our usual stations were busy with their Jura operation, 
unfortunately they didn't call in to the net. I worked Jura earlier in 
the week with incredible signal strength.


Topics this week included:

K3 2nd receiver issues, particularly miss-match issues due to 
filters/bandwidth settings.

Mini VNA vs. MFJ259 and LP-100 for antenna measurements
Power line noise and the noise reduction limitations of the K3 compared 
to a Perseus receiver.

Using the IF output of a K3, is a pre-amp really necessary...

Stations this week were:

G0YLM, Lynda
G0IDA, Bernie
G3YHM, Rod
EI6IZ, Brendan
M0KWV, Martin
GM4ESD, Geoff

73 until next week!
Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80, Acom 1000, dipole antenna
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RE: [Elecraft] QRRR

2008-09-28 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
David,

You are correct, PAN PAN  three times is the right phrase.

73
Arie PA3A

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens David Woolley (E.L)
Verzonden: zondag 28 september 2008 10:32
Aan: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft] QRRR


Dave G4AON wrote:
 Jon, the CW equivalent of PAN PAN PAN (it should be repeated three
 times) is XXX XXX XXX (again repeated three times), which I doubt

I believe it is PAN-PAN that should be repeated three times, i.e. 
PAN-PAN PAN-PAN PAN-PAN.  Only one MAYDAY or PAN-PAN is used in each 
subsequent transmission.


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[Elecraft] K3 - no output power

2008-09-28 Thread Bruce Meier
I have not yet determined the exact series of events, but something strange
happens to both of my K3s.  This weekend I have been participating in the
Texas QSO Party.  As it is both a CW and SSB event and multi-band I am doing
jumps from band to band and mode to mode.  Many times I get to the
destination freq/mode and I have ZERO output power displayed on the K3 power
meter and very low output on my station watt meters.  It appears to be less
than 1 watt.

The fix is quite simple.  Put the, then failing, K3 into TUNE position.  The
power comes up - switch it out of tune - go on my way at the desired power
level.  This happens when going from SSB to CW, CW to SSB, and Band to Band.

After the event I will try to get more info as to what key sequence gets
them there, but I would assume I am not alone here as both of my K3s are
acting the same.

I am running 2.38 / 1.90 firmware.

73,
Bruce - N1LN
(aka: NC4KW)

K3 # 1062
K3 # 1193

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[Elecraft] K3 Loss of VFO B control

2008-09-28 Thread K2ZLS

Hi  Jerry:

  The encoders have a printed circuit board that has 10 leads attached 
to the top of each and soldered into place.  The top of the leads, in 
some cases,  are TOO LONG and may interfere with the DSP board above 
it.  In most cases there is enough clearance, but to be on the safe side 
I used a metal finger-nail FILE to carefully file down those leads to 
the top of the pool of solder that holds them in place.  Inspect the 
clearance after the DSP board is in place just to make sure. There is 
not much space and it seems to me that putting any kind of insulating 
material there will only put  pressure on the DSP board and cause it to 
FLEX. Only  MHOP  : )


   73's  Tony  K2ZLS
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RE: [Elecraft] QRRR

2008-09-28 Thread Charles Harpole

If I had real trouble, on phone,

I would say HELP, EMERGENCY, HELP ME

which would be understood by all English

speakers anywhere.


Charles Harpole

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 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] QRRR
 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:43:46 +0200

 David,

 You are correct, PAN PAN three times is the right phrase.

 73
 Arie PA3A

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens David Woolley (E.L)
 Verzonden: zondag 28 september 2008 10:32
 Aan: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft] QRRR


 Dave G4AON wrote:
 Jon, the CW equivalent of PAN PAN PAN (it should be repeated three
 times) is XXX XXX XXX (again repeated three times), which I doubt

 I believe it is PAN-PAN that should be repeated three times, i.e.
 PAN-PAN PAN-PAN PAN-PAN. Only one MAYDAY or PAN-PAN is used in each
 subsequent transmission.


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[Elecraft] QRRR

2008-09-28 Thread Terry Myers

What ever happened to PAN and MAYDAY?


- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRRR



From a Google search QRRR Official ARRL land distress call

Never heard of such nonsense, if indeed that is what it means. If 
someone really is in distress they should call SOS at least everyone who 
can read CW will understand that.


73 Dave, G4AON
(ex marine radio officer)

/Would someone explain what QRRR is73 de Ed N7EDK/



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RE: [Elecraft] QRRR

2008-09-28 Thread Paul Huff

Never heard of such nonsense


Around 1969 or 70 I was taught in both code classes offered by a local club 
and getting started kinds of books (probably ARRL publications) that QRRR 
was a standard distress signal.  I remember having the impression that SOS 
was old fashion and that QRRR was preferred, but that might have been just 
my personal misunderstanding.  Fortunately I've never heard either one in 
actual use.  I think that from a practical point of view I would stick with 
SOS ( or Mayday on voice) because of the almost universal recognition that 
comes from the hundreds or thousands of TV and movie scenes that have used 
these over the years.


73,
Paul - N8XMS

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[Elecraft] KX1 -weird KXPD1 problem

2008-09-28 Thread David Wallace

Hello,

Having a bizarre issue with the KX1 paddle... just got it put together 
the other day.


When I plug the paddles in, they work as they should, no problem. As I 
tighten the thumbscrew, it continues to work... but after that last turn 
to get it really tight against the KX1, instead of a 'dit' or a 'dah' 
from either paddle, I get a 'di-dah' from *both* of them. I figured that 
if I put an extra washer in there (despite the fact that the errata 
specifically says use only one washer) that would solve the problem. I 
emailed Elecraft to make sure that was ok and was told that it was fine 
- but unfortunately it didn't fix it. It doesn't seem to matter how far 
that screw is in - it doesn't start behaving wrong until that last final 
tightening of the screw.


The key jack on the KX1 is completely flush with the KX1 case. The 
paddle seems to be put together fine, but with one slight possible issue 
- the plug itself is slightly less than flush with the body of the key 
itself, but we're talkin less than a MM here. Should I unsolder the 
wires and back it out a half turn perhaps?


Thanks for any help!

73, Dave K8DJW
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 CW decode (Dave G4AON)

2008-09-28 Thread Giuliano

Yes, Dave
I am using an external keyer,
thanks for info.
But i don't understand why!
73
Giuliano I0CG
K3 #1814

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From: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Giuliano are you using paddle input? There isn't a parameter to give 
receive decode without TX decode, it works for me using paddles, not 
tried it with a straight key or external keyer.


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80

my new K3 decode well the recived CW but don't decode my transmission.
Eny suggestion?
Thanks for help
Giuliano I0CG


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 CW decode (Dave G4AON)

2008-09-28 Thread Bob Cunnings
See pg. 33 and pg. 34 of the K3 Owner's Manual. It states that text
decode in CW works if you use the K3's internal keyer (paddle input).
It doesn't work when straight key or external keyer. The Manual could
be more definite on this point, it seems to come up often.

Bob NW8L

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Giuliano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, Dave
 I am using an external keyer,
 thanks for info.
 But i don't understand why!
 73
 Giuliano I0CG
 K3 #1814

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 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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 Giuliano are you using paddle input? There isn't a parameter to give receive
 decode without TX decode, it works for me using paddles, not tried it with a
 straight key or external keyer.

 73 Dave, G4AON
 K3/100 #80
 
 my new K3 decode well the recived CW but don't decode my transmission.
 Eny suggestion?
 Thanks for help
 Giuliano I0CG


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[Elecraft] QRRR

2008-09-28 Thread Douglas G. Bonett
 “What ever happened to PAN and MAYDAY?


They are still in use by commercial operators. See table below.


Message TypeTelephony   Telegraphy

DistressMAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY SOS SOS SOS 
Urgency PAN PAN  PAN PAN  PAN PANXXX XXX XXX
Safety  SECURITY SECURITY SECURITY   TTT TTT TTT 



Doug, N0HH


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[Elecraft] keyer with CW decode memory programming

2008-09-28 Thread Bill NY9H



if you use the K3's internal keyer (paddle input).
It doesn't work when straight key or external keyer. The Manual could
be more definite on this point, it seems to come up often.

Bob NW8L



AND...  as I forgot yesterday, your paddle hooked up to your keyer
will NOT program the K3 internal memories eithergotta be direct 
to the K3 paddle input.


bill 


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[Elecraft] K3 and Hamradio Deluxe

2008-09-28 Thread cloud runner
Since updating to FW 2.38, Hamradio deluxe is no longer able to connect with 
the K3.  It says can't read K3 frequency OR the K3 is in Memory Mode, 
whatever that means.  The Elecraft Utility sees the K3 just fine.

Has anyone encountered this and resolved it?

tnx,

Fred
K3 # 144


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[Elecraft] Filters

2008-09-28 Thread Tom Wylie

How do you select xtal filters whilst in data modes?

Tom
GM4FDM

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Hamradio Deluxe

2008-09-28 Thread DH2SE

Hi Fred,

same happend to me. Update HRD to the latest version. That solves the
problem for me.

73 de Sascha, DH2SE


  Since updating to FW 2.38, Hamradio deluxe is no longer able to connect
 with the K3.  It says can't 
 read K3 frequency OR the K3 is in Memory Mode, whatever that means. 
 The Elecraft Utility sees the 
 K3 just fine.

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[Elecraft] K3 Strange power switch behaviour

2008-09-28 Thread Stephen Prior
A funny thing just happened.  I went to turn on the K3 for the first time
today and when I turned the psu on, the radio sprang to life straight away
without having to press the power button.

Than when I press the power button to switch the K3 off I get a bright blank
screen and it will not turn on again until I disconnect and reconnect the
12v psu!

Other than this behaviour, the K3 appears to function normally.

I did have to swap over the dsp boards yesterday but it functioned fine
immediately after that, I know it did because I had to update the firmware
on the dsp board and I cycled the power normally after doing it.


Any ideas?  I'm confused.  I have disconnected everything from the front and
back of the K3 apart from the powerpole and antenna.

Thanks and 73

Stephen G4SJP



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Strange power switch behaviour

2008-09-28 Thread Stephen Prior

Sorry, but I jumped the gun a a bit with my last post.  I have now turned
the alarm off and normal behaviour has returned!  I find it odd however that
the K3 should behave in that way, in that with an alarm set it is necessary
to remove external power in order to get the radio to turn back on again.  I
set the alarm last night, but it turned off normally then!

I have just set the alarm again - all behaving perfectly now!  Very
strange...

I'd be grateful for a comment from Aptos!

73 Stephen  G4SJP

On 28/09/2008 17:00, Stephen  Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 A funny thing just happened.  I went to turn on the K3 for the first time
 today and when I turned the psu on, the radio sprang to life straight away
 without having to press the power button.
 
 Than when I press the power button to switch the K3 off I get a bright blank
 screen and it will not turn on again until I disconnect and reconnect the
 12v psu!
 
 Other than this behaviour, the K3 appears to function normally.
 
 I did have to swap over the dsp boards yesterday but it functioned fine
 immediately after that, I know it did because I had to update the firmware
 on the dsp board and I cycled the power normally after doing it.
 
 
 Any ideas?  I'm confused.  I have disconnected everything from the front and
 back of the K3 apart from the powerpole and antenna.
 
 Thanks and 73
 
 Stephen G4SJP
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Loss of VFO B control

2008-09-28 Thread Jerry Flanders
I think it would be a good idea if Elecraft would start checking 
every encoder before shipping. It is VERY difficult to 
disassemble/reassemble that front panel.


How about it, elecraft - can you start checking them there?

Also - do we need to be concerned that other components of the K3 are 
not being checked 100% before they are sent to us?


Jerry W4UK

At 06:14 AM 9/28/2008, Tom Boucher wrote:

Jerry

I have had 2 failed encoders and am waiting for the second 
replacement. In my case, it was not due to any shorts occurring 
although I believe Elecraft are now advising the fitting of an 
adhesive rubber insulating pad behind VFO B encoder. Looks like they 
had a bad batch from the manufacturer, Bourns.


Tom G3OLB

I had a bad encoder assembly in the K3 I assembled recently - I
proved it by swapping A and B encoders and observing the problem
switch with it. Elecraft shipped me a new one which fixed it (after
much sweat replacing it - that front panel removal is a PITA).

I suspect Elecraft is not checking the encoders before shipping them to us.

Jerry W4UK
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[Elecraft] QRRR (OT)

2008-09-28 Thread Mike Morrow
Paul wrote:

Around 1969 or 70 I was taught in both code classes offered by a local club 
and getting started kinds of books (probably ARRL publications) that QRRR 
was a standard distress signal. I remember having the impression that SOS 
was old fashion and that QRRR was preferred.

That's one of many examples why ham-info should *always* be considered suspect
until it has been checked against facts from outside the ham community.

I've never heard either one in actual use.

I wonder if SOS has ever been used on the ham bands and documented.  I've never
heard of such, in 40 years.  I kept a receiver on the maritime MF distress
and calling frequency (500 kHz) nightly for many years and never
heard a distress call.  (I did hear a lot of other interesting stuff there.)

There's a very clear and concise explaination of these distress and safety
prosigns at http://ship25bsa.org/mayday.html .  The text cites the Marconi 
Yearbook of Wireless Telegraphy and Telephony (1918) as saying:

[SOS] was adopted simply on account of its easy radiation and its unmistakable
character.  There is no special signification in the letter themselves, and it
is entirely incorrect to put full stops between them [the letters].

I think that from a practical point of view I would stick with SOS (or Mayday
on voice) because of the almost universal recognition that comes from the 
hundreds or thousands of TV and movie scenes that have used these over the
years.

However, the SOS on most of these movies is sent as three individual characters,
not as the correct single character.  One movie from 1979 is even titled
S. O. S. Titanic although IIRC the Morse transmissions in the opening credits
sent the sign properly, even to the point of simulating the sound of a spark
transmitter.  But even if incorrectly sent as S O S, it makes much more sense 
than
that idiotic QRRR proposition. 

For a tremendously interesting description of maritime Morse operations on 500 
kHz
(the most important Morse frequency of all time) from only 30 years ago, see the
seven part series written by KH2PZ at http://jproc.ca/radiostor/cw500pt1.html .
Part six describes his first SOS as a US Coast Guard coast station radio 
operator.

Its all gone now, except for a few who try to keep memories alive in the only 
place
where Morse (of some nature) is still in service (the ham bands).

Mike / KK5F
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[Elecraft] Icom headphones giving trouble?? (K2)

2008-09-28 Thread Michael Harvey

I have tried to use my Heil head phones I had for my IC-746 on my K2 and they 
don't seem to work
with the Heil Kenwood adapter Elecraft said I needed.
 
I normally use CW but thought I would play on SSB this morning.
 
I have a Kenwood dynamic hand mic (500 ohms) and it works but audio reports 
aren't great.
The head phones have always had great audio but I can't seem to get them to 
work?
 
Do these head phones need a powered mic element. They are made for Icom radios 
and have an IC on the mic boom pivot.
 
Any ideas??
 
Mike
 
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[Elecraft] K3 and Ham Radio Deluxe; fixed

2008-09-28 Thread cloud runner
Thank you.  Indeed, the radio and HRD WERE on 4,800 baud rate.  With the FW 
upgrade, the K3 switched to 38,400 without my notice, and HRD had to be told to 
make that change.  Now, copasetic.

73,

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[Elecraft] Re: KX1 -weird KXPD1 problem

2008-09-28 Thread kk7ss
If you have a spare jack...
Wire it to a seperate key, plug it in to the KX1 and see if you get the same 
problem...
If so, then the problem probably *is* the jack is not going in far enough and 
you'll need to back it out of the KXPD1 a bit...

Dave KK7SS
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[Elecraft] Line In problem ...

2008-09-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


After installing the KRX3 in my original factory assembled 
K3 (s/n 622), I find the Line In is unresponsive.  If I 
run the Line In and Monitor levels at maximum, I can just 
barely hear the input in the background.  

Line In was working normally prior to installing the KRX3. 
Any idea where to start looking?  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

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[Elecraft] K3 - Two small UI suggestions

2008-09-28 Thread Joe Planisky
After playing with my K3 for a few days (FW rev 2.38), I've come up  
with two small suggestions for a future firmware release, someday when  
you have nothing better to do :-)


1.) Make the TX indicator flash any time TX is disabled.  It already  
flashes when in TX TEST mode, but I'd also like it to flash when TX is  
disabled because I'm outside a ham band.


2.) Make ALL menu items with only two possible states sensitive to  
knob turn direction instead of alternating states.  Currently, to turn  
on text decode in a data mode, I can turn the VFO B knob either  
direction and get alternating ON / OFF states.  I'd like to turn it  
clockwise to turn it ON, and turn it counter-clockwise to turn it  
OFF.  The CONFIG:PWR SET works this way now and I think it would be  
better if all ON/OFF-type items worked this way.


73
--
Joe KB8AP
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Re: [Elecraft] Icom headphones giving trouble?? (K2)

2008-09-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

The Heil microphones labeled IC all have electret elements and *all* 
electret elements *do* need a source of bias.


How your K2 microphone configuration header must be configured depends 
on your adapter - in your case, the Heil Kenwood adapter puts mic AF on 
pin 1 and PTT on pin 2 and pins 7 and 8 should be grounded for the 
return path.  In other words, jumper the K2 mic configuration header in 
the K2 straight across for these pins.  See below for how you apply the 
bias - that gets a bit more complicated becasue there are several ways 
to wire the bias in.  I would recommend using a 5.6k resistor - that mic 
element is the same as used in the Elecraft microphones that were 
produced by Heil - the MD2, the older MH2, and the ProSet K2, those 
microphones sork well with a 5.6k bias resistor to 5 volts.


You can make it work just fine by adding a bias resistor from +5 volts 
(on the K2 front panel board) to pin 1 of the mic jack.
BUT, your Kenwood dynamic microphone will not like the bias resistor 
installed, so you need to decide on using one or the other.


73,
Don W3FPR

Michael Harvey wrote:
I have tried to use my Heil head phones I had for my IC-746 on my K2 
and they don't seem to work

with the Heil Kenwood adapter Elecraft said I needed.
 
I normally use CW but thought I would play on SSB this morning.
 
I have a Kenwood dynamic hand mic (500 ohms) and it works but audio 
reports aren't great.
The head phones have always had great audio but I can't seem to get 
them to work?
 
Do these head phones need a powered mic element. They are made for 
Icom radios and have an IC on the mic boom pivot.
 
Any ideas??
 


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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 -weird KXPD1 problem

2008-09-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dave,

My guess is that your problem is in the key jack and not with the paddles.
Something is shorting both the dot and dash contacts together when your 
KXPD1 is tightened.
Is the KX1 key jack positioned to exactly match the silk-screening on 
the board?  If not, it should be.  If you need to reposition it, you 
might find a way to heat all 3 pins at the same time and move it into place.
If you can't find the cause, I would suggest replacing the key jack.  It 
is possible that the contacts inside the jack are slightly distorted 
from normal and only show the problem when the KXPD1 is securely tightened.


73,
Don W3FPR

David Wallace wrote:

Hello,

Having a bizarre issue with the KX1 paddle... just got it put together 
the other day.


When I plug the paddles in, they work as they should, no problem. As I 
tighten the thumbscrew, it continues to work... but after that last 
turn to get it really tight against the KX1, instead of a 'dit' or a 
'dah' from either paddle, I get a 'di-dah' from *both* of them. I 
figured that if I put an extra washer in there (despite the fact that 
the errata specifically says use only one washer) that would solve the 
problem. I emailed Elecraft to make sure that was ok and was told that 
it was fine - but unfortunately it didn't fix it. It doesn't seem to 
matter how far that screw is in - it doesn't start behaving wrong 
until that last final tightening of the screw.


The key jack on the KX1 is completely flush with the KX1 case. The 
paddle seems to be put together fine, but with one slight possible 
issue - the plug itself is slightly less than flush with the body of 
the key itself, but we're talkin less than a MM here. Should I 
unsolder the wires and back it out a half turn perhaps?


Thanks for any help!
  

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[Elecraft] Calibrating K3

2008-09-28 Thread wsm
Hello

Does anyone know of a simple way to calibrate a K3?
I have been messing with mine for two days and getting
absolutely now where.
I did manage to get FL1 set to 400, but that was purely
by accident. Have been trying to get FL2 set to 2.70
all day and just can't seem to get it done.
73
Scott N5SM

S

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Two small UI suggestions

2008-09-28 Thread Brett Howard
Personally I prefer the alternating states as I always spin one way to
make the change.  

On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 12:03 -0700, Joe Planisky wrote:
 After playing with my K3 for a few days (FW rev 2.38), I've come up  
 with two small suggestions for a future firmware release, someday when  
 you have nothing better to do :-)
 
 1.) Make the TX indicator flash any time TX is disabled.  It already  
 flashes when in TX TEST mode, but I'd also like it to flash when TX is  
 disabled because I'm outside a ham band.
 
 2.) Make ALL menu items with only two possible states sensitive to  
 knob turn direction instead of alternating states.  Currently, to turn  
 on text decode in a data mode, I can turn the VFO B knob either  
 direction and get alternating ON / OFF states.  I'd like to turn it  
 clockwise to turn it ON, and turn it counter-clockwise to turn it  
 OFF.  The CONFIG:PWR SET works this way now and I think it would be  
 better if all ON/OFF-type items worked this way.
 
 73
 --
 Joe KB8AP
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Re: [Elecraft] QRRR (OT)

2008-09-28 Thread Phil Kane

On 9/28/2008 10:07 AM, Mike Morrow wrote:


Its all gone now, except for a few who try to keep memories alive in the only 
place
where Morse (of some nature) is still in service (the ham bands).


Not so, Mike.  There are several MF/HF Public Coast Stations still on 
the air in the US, using CW and RTTY/SITOR (commercial AMTOR) to handle 
public correspondence with ships.  Morse is not banned on the maritime 
channels, just no longer required for distress and safety purposes.


See  www.radiomarine.org for more info.
--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Calibrating K3

2008-09-28 Thread Lyle Johnson

I did manage to get FL1 set to 400, but that was purely
by accident. Have been trying to get FL2 set to 2.70
all day and just can't seem to get it done.


The widest filter goes in FL1, the narrowest in FL5.  It's OK to have 
empties. It is not OK to have a wider filter (2.7) in a higher numbered 
slot (FL2) than a narrower filter (400 in FL1).


Please see Rule #2 on page 73 of the K3 manual, Rev D1.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] QRRR (OT)

2008-09-28 Thread Mike Morrow
I wrote:

 Its all gone now, except for a few who try to keep memories alive in the
 only place where Morse (of some nature) is still in service (the ham bands).

Phil wrote:

 Not so, Mike.  There are several MF/HF Public Coast Stations still on 
 the air in the US, using CW and RTTY/SITOR (commercial AMTOR) to handle 
 public correspondence with ships.  Morse is not banned on the maritime 
 channels, just no longer required for distress and safety purposes.

Phil, my outlook on those operations is different, though I accept your
point that they are another venue outside ham radio where Morse operations
take place (rarely).

I'm very familiar with the wonderful efforts of RD and the others at
www.radiomarine.org , including the several times each year that they
do a very limited revival of operations from what's left of a couple of
famous Pacific Coast stations, often in conjunction with some old
Victory or Liberty museum ship whose Morse station has been activated
for the special event.

But it is all essentially a historical reenactment by historical
preservationist groups.  Bona fide profit- and safety-driven commercial
Morse operations in the USA ended on 12 July 1999.  As interesting and laudable
as these reenactments are, they do not represent any remnant of the originals
that continues to serve real commercial and regulatory (SOLAS) requirements.

It is odd but true that the FCC will still license stations and operators for
this service, although Second Class Radiotelegraph licenses have had greatly
reduced Morse exam requirements for about 25 years, since the FCC allowed 
crediting the very simple Amateur Extra Morse exam to the commercial ticket.
But the FCC also continued to offer the Aircraft Radiotelegraph Operator exam
and endorsement for decades after the last aircraft radiotelegraph operator
position had been eliminated, so it's anyone's guess how many decades these
other obsolete tickets will be issued.  I let mine expire 15 years ago.

Mike / KK5F
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RE: [Elecraft] Filters

2008-09-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

The same way as in voice and CW modes?  They are linked to 
the DSP bandwidth or may be selected using a tap of the 
XFIL button. 



 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Wylie
 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 11:24 AM
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 Subject: [Elecraft] Filters
 
 
 How do you select xtal filters whilst in data modes?
 
 Tom
 GM4FDM
 


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[Elecraft] K3 - interfacing to N1MM Contest Logging software

2008-09-28 Thread Barry Pfeil
After a bit of frustration with poor documentation, I've got my laptop 
connected to my new K3 using the Elecraft KUSB USB to Serial Adapter.  I was 
pleased to find a K3 option in the N1MM Configurer but I have a few questions.

ESCape key - In the configurer, N1MM says that ESC will not interrupt CW 
keying via the radio communications port.  But I'm using the DTR line on the 
single RS232 interface for keying and ESC seems to instantly stop any F 
key-initiated sending.  Am I missing something?

Stop bits - I apologize for my naivete on this, but N1MM sets the stop bits at 
2 while also noting that Elecraft recommends 1 stop bit.  Anybody know why?  
Should I change it to 1 stop bit?  It works fine as is (2 stop bits) so I'm 
basically in the if it ain't broke, don't fix it mode.

Speed - N1MM sets the speed at 4800 baud and also notes that Elecraft 
recommends 4800-38,400 baud.  The Elecraft KUSB adapter set itself initially 
at 9600 baud.  Any insights here?  Again, I'm in don't fix it... mode

Thanks,
Barry, K6RM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - interfacing to N1MM Contest Logging software

2008-09-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

Barry,

I believe you are correct in your if it ain't broke, don't fix it 
stance.  Keep on keeping on!


However there are two things to be aware of in case of trouble down the 
road.
1).Usually, USB to serial adapters work better at high speeds than low - 
that is counterintuitive, but true.
2).For asynchronous RS232 protocol, the number of stop bits stated is a 
minimum number.  With a properly functioning device at both ends, 
increasing the number of stop bits should do nothing.  The state of the 
'stop bit' is the same as the idle state - that means when 
communication  pauses, the result is electrically the same as a large 
number of stop bits.


I believe your ESC key 'problem' may be a matter of definition.  Keying 
via DTR is not  keying via the radio communications port by my 
definitions.   I would interpret that statement in the K1MM 
documentation to mean keying by a technique similar to the K2/K3 KY 
command (which uses the TXD/RXD communication lines).  Yes, the DTR 
signal is a part of the RS-232 interface, but is is a signalling 
(control) line and not a communications line - TXD and RXD are the 
'communications' lines.  Others can tell you if my interpretation is 
correct in light of the K1MM implementation (I don't know that answer), 
but I know the terminology I used is correct for RS-232 communications.


73,
Don W3FPR

Barry Pfeil wrote:

After a bit of frustration with poor documentation, I've got my laptop connected to my 
new K3 using the Elecraft KUSB USB to Serial Adapter.  I was pleased to find a 
K3 option in the N1MM Configurer but I have a few questions.

ESCape key - In the configurer, N1MM says that ESC will not interrupt CW keying via the radio 
communications port.  But I'm using the DTR line on the single RS232 interface for keying and 
ESC seems to instantly stop any F key-initiated sending.  Am I missing something?

Stop bits - I apologize for my naivete on this, but N1MM sets the stop bits at 2 while 
also noting that Elecraft recommends 1 stop bit.  Anybody know why?  Should I change it 
to 1 stop bit?  It works fine as is (2 stop bits) so I'm basically in the if it 
ain't broke, don't fix it mode.

Speed - N1MM sets the speed at 4800 baud and also notes that Elecraft recommends 4800-38,400 
baud.  The Elecraft KUSB adapter set itself initially at 9600 baud.  Any insights here?  
Again, I'm in don't fix it... mode
  


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RE: [Elecraft] Loss of VFO B encoder control

2008-09-28 Thread Rick Low
After swapping the VFO A and B encoders on my K3 work-in-progress, the no 
encoder control problem moved from VFO B to VFO A. So separately I've email 
K3support asking for a replacement encoder.

Now, has anyone come up with a better solution for separating the front panel 
from the main radio, being kind to the paint job? I haven't ding'ed it yet 
after four attach/remove cycles, but the two insert screwdriver here slots 
just aren't cutting it for me!

73 Rick N6CY

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 18:53
To: Rick and Theresa Low
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Loss of VFO B encoder control

Rick,

Does the VFO B knob change the frequency of VFO B?  If it does, there is 
nothing wrong with the encoder, and you should send a note to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If not, swap the encoder between VFO B and RIT (or VFO A and VFO B 
whichever is easiest for you) - if the problem follows the encoder 
position, ask for a replacement encoder.
If the problem stays with VFO B, then there is a front panel problem and 
you should ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] for additional assistance.

73,
Don W3FPR

Rick and Theresa Low wrote:
 (separate weekend mail sent to K3support)

 I'm in the middle of Test and Calibration, which begins on page 64 of the 
 Assembly manual.

 Initial power Checks: satisfactory
 Synthesizer Calibration: completed satisfactorily
 Filter setup: made it through Filter Bandwidth Setup and Filter Center 
 Frequency Setup...but it appears the settings may not have been 
 accepted...and I've lost control of the ability to change anything using the 
 VFO B encoder.
   


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[Elecraft] KAT3 Problem

2008-09-28 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi,
Just getting K3 going and KAT3 does not tune properly on 7 and 24 MHz.
I'm pretty sure it worked earlier today on a 40 m dipole I put up but
now it doesn't tune the dipole or a dummy load. When trying to tune the
dummy load and checking the L  C I get Ca = Ct=0.66 nF and L=0.75 uH
and 2.5:1 SWR. If I change Ca = 0.04 nF and L = 0.1 uH I get 1.0:1 but
when hitting tune again the KAT3 goes back to the previous 2.5:1
settings. All other bands except 24 MHz seem ok. 

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
KE7X

Fred Cady
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[Elecraft] ot u want lots youth to do Morse?

2008-09-28 Thread Charles Harpole

If u want many many young people to learn

and use Morse PUT A MORSE KEY ON THE

CEL HAND TELEPHONE for creating msm

messages.  A setting in the phone menu makes

the # key a Morse input key.  Just do that and

watch the teenagers flock to it because it is

so much faster than keyboard input and, best,

it is a SECRET language!  Hey Nokia/Martti,

r u listening?


Charles Harpole

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 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:47:53 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRRR (OT)
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

 I wrote:

 Its all gone now, except for a few who try to keep memories alive in the
 only place where Morse (of some nature) is still in service (the ham bands).

 Phil wrote:

 Not so, Mike. There are several MF/HF Public Coast Stations still on
 the air in the US, using CW and RTTY/SITOR (commercial AMTOR) to handle
 public correspondence with ships. Morse is not banned on the maritime
 channels, just no longer required for distress and safety purposes.

 Phil, my outlook on those operations is different, though I accept your
 point that they are another venue outside ham radio where Morse operations
 take place (rarely).

 I'm very familiar with the wonderful efforts of RD and the others at
 www.radiomarine.org , including the several times each year that they
 do a very limited revival of operations from what's left of a couple of
 famous Pacific Coast stations, often in conjunction with some old
 Victory or Liberty museum ship whose Morse station has been activated
 for the special event.

 But it is all essentially a historical reenactment by historical
 preservationist groups. Bona fide profit- and safety-driven commercial
 Morse operations in the USA ended on 12 July 1999. As interesting and laudable
 as these reenactments are, they do not represent any remnant of the originals
 that continues to serve real commercial and regulatory (SOLAS) requirements.

 It is odd but true that the FCC will still license stations and operators for
 this service, although Second Class Radiotelegraph licenses have had greatly
 reduced Morse exam requirements for about 25 years, since the FCC allowed
 crediting the very simple Amateur Extra Morse exam to the commercial ticket.
 But the FCC also continued to offer the Aircraft Radiotelegraph Operator exam
 and endorsement for decades after the last aircraft radiotelegraph operator
 position had been eliminated, so it's anyone's guess how many decades these
 other obsolete tickets will be issued. I let mine expire 15 years ago.

 Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Hamradio Deluxe

2008-09-28 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:18:25 -0600, cloud runner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Since updating to FW 2.38, Hamradio deluxe is no longer able to connect with 
the K3.  It says can't read K3 frequency OR the K3 is in Memory Mode, 
whatever that means.  The Elecraft Utility sees the K3 just fine.

Has anyone encountered this and resolved it?

tnx,

Fred
K3 # 144


Mine is working fine with the newest FW and HRD.

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[Elecraft] K3 - amp plate current wiggles on fsk

2008-09-28 Thread Dave Hachadorian
I made a few contacts in the cqww rtty today with a K3. 
Everything seemed to work fb, but I noticed the amplifier 
plate current wiggling with FSK modulation. I never noticed 
this with my old TS-850. I hooked up a hand key to the K3 
FSK jack, and when the key went down, there was a short 
power excursion upwards. When the key went up, there was a 
short power excursion downwards. The final power was the 
same after these excursions settled out (about 0.5 second). 
The power excursions were about 100 watts out of 1500.


Operationally this is no big deal, but I wonder if there are 
transients being generated. Has anyone else noticed this?


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ

















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RE: [Elecraft] Loss of VFO B encoder control

2008-09-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Rick, N6CY, asked:

...has anyone come up with a better solution for separating the front panel
from the main radio, being kind to the paint job? I haven't ding'ed it yet
after four attach/remove cycles, but the two insert screwdriver here slots
just aren't cutting it for me!



What's the problem is with the screwdriver slots, Rick? 

Ron AC7AC

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