Re: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham
--- On Mon, 1/4/10, WILLIS COOKE wrote: The K3 is more forgiving of slightly low voltage than most rigs. It will operate pretty well down to 11.0 volts, but it operates better at 13.8 volts or so. Please don't do this to your ham neighbors. Nominal 12V PAs already put out too much garbage in the form of IMD at nominal voltage. Having the finest receiver in the world does no good when the band is cluttered with garbage signals. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K1] Mods...
Hello All, I'm new to the group, so this is to say hello. I'm happily breathing life into my K1 #2822. It arrived for Xmas. The build is going well and my toroid winding skills are improving :) I have a couple of questions about K1 mods: About the ACG response time mod : changing C31 to a lower value cap ( from 2.2uF to 1uF or lower) is mentioned most often, but there is a variation of opinion whether C67 should be lowered also. Many of the postings about this are several years old. I was just wondering if ideas about this have evolved any further? Secondly, I've read on JL3AHK's site, about a mod to increase OP power of the K1 to a consistent 7W across all bands. He suggests adding a 0.001uF cap in parallel with R30 on the RF board. I can't find any reference to this mod anywhere in the archives. Any opinions on this mod? This K1 is my first Elecraft rig. I'm learning lots and having fun. It's practice for a K2. Thanks from down here, John VK7JB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham
Steve, congrats, you are now officially an OM! The ONE thing I'd like to add about putting up ANY antenna.CAUTION. Power lines in the vicinity of your home and your antenna are lethal. Please plan ahead and give yourself a wide margin of safety. It's too easy to get in a hurry and loose sight of those insignificant little power lines. If you use a metal pole, they can difficult to manage into a vertical position. So good luck OM, hope to work you. 73, Fred, AE6IC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 VFO Stuck on 40M
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Re: [Elecraft] [K1] K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power
On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Rick/WA6ES wrote: > Well I worked on the winding spacing and got it up to a little over 4 watts, > actually 4.4, so that did help. How are you measuring the power output? With my new K1 using a DL1 and KAT1 I get exactly the number of bars on the TX LCD bar graph as I set in the output menu for power output using a 13.8 vold power supply, from 2 to 7. This is true for all 4 bands, with the only difference being if I don't tune it takes a few CQ's for the KAT1 to catch up, as expected. Just curious what I might be missing, Byron KI6NUL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power
Hi Don 13.8v. I get 7 watts on 40m and just want a little more for 20m. I am happy with the little thing. Actually I was switching between my ft817 and the K1. Maybe it is me but the K1 heard a little better. Or maybe it is just me that I made the K1 Rick/WA6ES K1 SN:2820 Don Wilhelm-4 wrote: > > Rick, > > What is your power supply voltage? The K1 maximum output is quite > dependent on the supply voltage, so if you are using 12 volts instead of > 13.8 volts, that may explain your 4.4 watt power output limit. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Rick/WA6ES wrote: >> Marc >> Well I worked on the winding spacing and got it up to a little over 4 >> watts, actually 4.4, so that did help. I sent off an email to Elecraft >> yesterday when I posted this and no answer yet, maybe I will call them >> and >> talk to Scott there. I have to get a couple of speaker slides, heck those >> things are small! I even played with the 40m section and got another watt >> out there also! >> Can I live with 4.4 watts on 20,maybe, but if I get more pwr out, even >> better. >> >> Thanks again for the info >> Rick/WA6ES >> >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K1-Low-power-tp4248493p4253681.html Sent from the [K1] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power
Rick, What is your power supply voltage? The K1 maximum output is quite dependent on the supply voltage, so if you are using 12 volts instead of 13.8 volts, that may explain your 4.4 watt power output limit. 73, Don W3FPR Rick/WA6ES wrote: > Marc > Well I worked on the winding spacing and got it up to a little over 4 > watts, actually 4.4, so that did help. I sent off an email to Elecraft > yesterday when I posted this and no answer yet, maybe I will call them and > talk to Scott there. I have to get a couple of speaker slides, heck those > things are small! I even played with the 40m section and got another watt > out there also! > Can I live with 4.4 watts on 20,maybe, but if I get more pwr out, even > better. > > Thanks again for the info > Rick/WA6ES > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power
Marc Well I worked on the winding spacing and got it up to a little over 4 watts, actually 4.4, so that did help. I sent off an email to Elecraft yesterday when I posted this and no answer yet, maybe I will call them and talk to Scott there. I have to get a couple of speaker slides, heck those things are small! I even played with the 40m section and got another watt out there also! Can I live with 4.4 watts on 20,maybe, but if I get more pwr out, even better. Thanks again for the info Rick/WA6ES Marc PE1FJN wrote: > > Hello Rick, > > HNY2010. > > When I had output power problems at 15m, not at 20m, I increased the > output power by 'tuning' the low pass output filter (L9/L10, L11/L12), > suggested by ELECRAFT. By bringing windings together I was able to get the > required output. It does not look as nice when having the windings evenly > spread, but in the end the output power is more important. > Make sure you have a dummy load when checking Pout, as when VSWR is poor, > depending of the COAX length you will see high or low max output power on > display K1. Reason: K1 is measuring Vpeak out, and calculates it back to > power. So reading on display is only reliable when you have 50ohm, or have > installed the internal antenna tuner. > > Also make sure you have 13.8V, Pout max between 12V and 13.8V makes a > difference. I run it at 12V, Power is 5W at 15m/20m band, while running at > 13.8V I can easily get up to 7Watt. For me 12V is fine. > > If tuning of the coils does not work, contact elecraft support, and refer > to power problems from PE1FJN October this year at 15m SN: 2761. I changed > 1 resistor on instructions from ELECRAFT. At this moment I have now no > access to this mail(sorry), but I'm sure you will be able to get the same > instructions. Having changed this resistor power was very fine, and not > marginal anymore. > > Hope this helps, > > 73 > PE1FJN > Marc > K1 SN:2761 > > PS: Good Luck, at 20m DX is really nice with this RIG. > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K1-Low-power-tp4248493p4253616.html Sent from the [K1] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Hum ! Did Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood are sending their products straight on line and provide such attention to their customers ? One more reason to be confident with Elecraft, a proud US company ! Great part of the succes is quality of service and Elecraft is on the way to carve out a crupper to our usual providers. They waked up my Ham spirit after too many decades using most of the "limousine" rigs available on the market. It's time to move to "Nascar" rigs and challenge for the "piston cup ". Bst 73's & Happy New Year Philippe A65BI (F5LTB), ex-9Q1TB for the last exotic one. K3#3616 By Hams, for Hams, what else ! >>> "Dick Williams" 04-01-2010 23:08 >>> Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without going thru their dealers in the states? -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:49 AM To: Tom Meier Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Tom, If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, but that is a different statement. 73, Don W3FPR Tom Meier wrote: > Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a > very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a > business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both > sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the > exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that > they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you > without access to any tech support. > > Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts > straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this > country also. But thought I'd pass this along. > > 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Torroid winding aid
http://n2.nabble.com/Toroid-Holder-from-a-Clothespin-td4209879.html Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: "Ken Kopp" Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:16 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Torroid winding aid >A list member recently posted a torrid-holding tool made > from a clothes pin. Since I can't find the posting,maybe > he'll re-post the idea. > > 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP > elecraftcov...@rfwave.net > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.125/2600 - Release Date: 01/04/10 14:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Torroid winding aid
A list member recently posted a torrid-holding tool made from a clothes pin. Since I can't find the posting,maybe he'll re-post the idea. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@rfwave.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] W2 Firmware Suggestion
With all the recent discussion about the W2 I decided to actually read the on-line manual and check the specs for my self. Upon further reading I discovered that to set the SWR alarm feature it is necessary to have a PC connected and to set the alarm each time the unit is powered up. If possible, it would be nice to be able to turn on the alarm feature from the front panel of the W2 and once set, have the alarm enable in memory so that it was not necessary to do this every time the unit is power cycled.. OBTW I am very pleased with the current firmware load for the K3. Thanks & 73, Bill - K6WLM K3 K2 KX1 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham
Steve, I think you should go to www.radioworks.com and spend some time reading about wire antennas. The reading is free, but buying the antennas takes some bucks. It is worth the reading time even if you decide to buy the antenna somewhere else or build one. The antenna that is best for you depends a lot on what you want to do and your installation limitations. You don't say why you want to use battery power. The K3 is more forgiving of slightly low voltage than most rigs. It will operate pretty well down to 11.0 volts, but it operates better at 13.8 volts or so. You might be happier with a power supply. I have used a couple of Jetstream switching supplies with mine and found them satisfactory. You might find a birdie or two somewhere, but in 5,000 or so QSOs with my K3 I don't believe that I have lost a single QSO due to a birdie. I am currently using a Jetstream JTPS35BVCMA that will furnish 30 amps continuous and will float charge a battery. I am using a lead acid boat battery which seems OK. I have it in a plastic boat battery box. It will generate some hydrogen, so don't keep it in a closed cabinet. A gell cell would be better, but a 100 amp gel cell is pretty pricy. But I use the battery strictly as a back up and operate from the power supply as a rule. The advice that someone gave you to back off to 50 watts or less when operating on battery is good advice. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: KC2VNI To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 7:19:39 PM Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham Folks: I am a new ham. I just purchased a K3 100W radio with an auto-tuner. Several basic questions: 1) Wire antennas- Do you guys have suggestions for a multi-band wire antenna pre-made by someone like MFJ or similar that I could hang in a tree? 2) Battery based power: From speaking with the fellow from customer support from elecraft, a 100 Amp-Hr battery is what is required to operate at 100W. What type of battery do I use? Is sealed-lead acid acceptable? What size fuses do I want on the line running from the radio to the battery? I recognize that this radio has orders of magnitude of capability that I don't understand yet. I also recognize that reading the manual will be of a help here. If you have further resources and/or suggestions, please advise. 73, KC2VNI. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4253024.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator
Bah! Winding toroids may be tedious, but it's by no means difficult. It's sort of like sewing on buttons. If you've never done it before, the first 1 or 2 are sort of fun. By the time you've done 10, it's not as much fun. By the time you've done 20, you begin to understand why some people are willing to pay someone else to do it. :-) One of the things that makes it a little frustrating especially with the smaller cores (like the T37) is that it can be hard to hold on to the thing while winding. I've found that attaching a small cable tie (ty-rap) tightly to the core provides a convenient handle. You can even chuck it into a bench vise to leave both hands free to thread the wire. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Jan 4, 2010, at 6:21 PM, James Sarte wrote: > Dunno. lots of people seem to complain about winding toroids, so I > just > assumed they'd be a PITA. There's even a toroid winding service?!?!? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 on 500 kHz
Wayne Burdick wrote: > What I > meant was that you *could* make a transverter for these bands and > interface it to the K3 via KXV3 module. We don't have plans to offer one > ourselves. I've had a Palomar VLF Converter for years, works really great, and better with my K3. Converts [allegedly] DC to 500 KHz to 3.5 to 4.0 MHz. LORAN-C noise here on the US Pacific Coast is a bit of a problem, we're fairly close to Middletown CA which has a USCG LORAN station, but the loop will null most of it out. Seems to work good down to about 12 KHz, then things get mushy. I think I've even heard the power line carrier current telemetry ... we have a 145KV line close to us and I know it carries it, we have hydroelectric plants above and below us and I can see the chokes in the substations. That said, I haven't had the Palomar on for about a year, maybe I'll hook it up again and see what's there. There was some word [maybe urban legends] that the CG was going to shut down LORAN-C in the face of GPS. I've heard the West Coast 500KHZ ham beacon several times, can't remember the call now. I really can't see why Elecraft would want to delve into such a low volume market when there are a number of cheap alternatives already out there. I'd rather they work on the solid-state amps :-) As a High School senior at 16, I got to work ships at sea on 500Kcs from a coastal marine station as a relief operator. The Holy Frequency is eerily silent these days compared to then, when it was a sort of world-wide party-line. But, that was then and this is now. LoFer is sort of fun for awhile, but I can't transmit there and the fun tends to fade after I've identified all the NDB's I can hear. 73 and a Good New Year to all, Fred K6DGW Auburn CA USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] KX1 | KXAT1 ATU questions
Dan - I have the same antenna and the same balun. It is a great combination from 160m to 10m. Before I used the balun, however, I used a balanced Johnson Matchbox. I found that I had to add some length to the original ladder line (about 18 feet) to get all bands to match (including all of the WARC bands). 30m was my toughest band, but once I got 30m to match nicely then all the other bands matched too. So you might try adding some ladder line to the original feedline. (Subtracting may also be effective but I added). I love QSYing from band to band now with the K3 or K2. The K2 and K3 tuners remember the settings so I am instantly matched without having to generate RF. Good luck. 73, John W2XS My configuration was Cobra Senior Ultralight up 60-66’ at one end 45-50’ at the other with center up about 55-60’ | 81 feet of 450 ohm ladder line runs that runs about 1’ foot through a casement window | Balun Designs 4:1 4113t current balun | 3’ coax with 239 – 239 connectors [703+] OR an amphenol 239/BNC adapter [KX-1]. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/KX1-KXAT1-ATU-questions-tp4248233p4253325.html Sent from the [KX1] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:19:39 -0800 (PST), KC2VNI wrote: Howdy Steve, > >Folks: I am a new ham. I just purchased a K3 100W radio with an auto-tuner. >Several basic questions: > >1) Wire antennas- Do you guys have suggestions for a multi-band wire antenna >pre-made by someone like MFJ or similar that I could hang in a tree? > You can save 70 to 90% of what you would pay for a ready made antenna by building your own. We are going to build a 40m dipole or inverted vee: 1. Go to Lowe's or Home Depot and buy some of the yellow egg shaped electric fence insulators, about 75 or 80 feet of #14 insulated stranded copper wire and a package of 3/16 inch nylon rope. Also get a 3 inch piece of 1/2 inch PVC pipe. 2. When you get home, drill a 3/16 inch hole about 1/4 inch from each end of the PVC pipe. This is you center insulator. 3. Use one of the following formulas based on the mode you want to use: 468 / 7.035 for the CW and Data end of the band (66.5 feet) , or 468 / 7.170 (65.3 feet) for the SSB end of the band. Add 2 feet to either of the calculations for tying to the insulators and trimming and cur the wire exactly in half. Strip 1/2 inch of the insulation off of one end of each of these wires. 4. Pass the stripped ends of the two wires through the holes you drilled in the PVC pipe. Tie the wires to the center insulator leaving the bare copper of each wire hanging from the insulator about an inch. It's OK the have 1/2 inch or so of the insulated part of the wire protruding from the exit side of the insulator. 5. If you already have some 50 ohm coax, strip the outer insulation off of one end of the coax. You are going to solder the braid of the coax to one of the wires and the center of the coax to the other. 6. Put a yellow insulator on each empty end of each wire. 7. If you have two trees far enough apart to support the antenna hang it up as a dipole by hanging it from each tree with a rope passed through each end insulator. 8. If you have only one tree or post, then support the antenna from the center insulator by hanging a rope over a limb of the tree or some other support. Tie the other two ends to the fence on each side of the yard or in some other manner. Try to keep the angle at the apex of the Vee between 90 and 120 degrees if you can. To add another band just make another two wires cut to the right length and solder the stripped ends of those wires to the same points at the center insulator. It is easier to do this with an inverted vee than a dipole, but the idea is the same. No switches needed, no coils needed the wires that are cut for the band you are transmitting on will radiate the others won't. You now have an antenna that will get you on the air while you investigate other wire antennas you might want to make. I didn't go into how you trim the antenna to get it to perfect resonance, but if you have the tuner in the K3 you will be able to match the antenna without any trouble. Building and testing wire antennas is one of the most fun parts of hobby. If you enjoyed building the first one and want to learn more about antennas of all kinds you can order the ARRL Antenna Book from Elecraft or just about any place that sells books. 73, Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806 with SUB RX, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1, 2 W2's and other small kits 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net >2) Battery based power: From speaking with the fellow from customer support >from elecraft, a 100 Amp-Hr battery is what is required to operate at 100W. >What type of battery do I use? Is sealed-lead acid acceptable? What size >fuses do I want on the line running from the radio to the battery? > >I recognize that this radio has orders of magnitude of capability that I >don't understand yet. I also recognize that reading the manual will be of a >help here. If you have further resources and/or suggestions, please advise. > >73, > >KC2VNI. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgruntled Europeans
--- On Mon, 1/4/10, ab2tc wrote: I do feel bad for my fellow hams in most other countries who are not as fortunate. Yeah but they get all of that "free" health care. Imagine what it would cost them if the US dollar was still a hard currency instead of Monopoly money. And it works against us going the other direction. For example: I just got back from the post office where I bought sixty International first-class airmail stamps for $58.80 and my credit union where I got 100 $1.00 bills. DX hams want two or three dollars now for a direct QSL reply, so this may cover 60 outgoing QSLs, if I add in the dollar bills in my wallet. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham
Good evening, Steve. As for item #2, you'll likely find that even with a 100 AH battery, the voltage will drop rather quickly at 100 watts. And as the voltage drops, the current consumption will rise to keep the output the same, even more rapidly draining the battery. I would suggest: 1) consider using lower power. You'll likely find that running at 50 watts (or less, particularly on CW or PSK) will net you essentially the same number of QSOs, at far less power consumption. 2) run 2 batteries in parallel (in this case, 12 volt batteries). That will help keep the voltage up by spreading the load across more than one battery. 3) even if running parallel batteries, consider a battery booster from MFJ or http://stores.tgelectronics.org/StoreFront.bok I have not tried either, but I think QST did a review of 2 models some time back. By far the easiest (and most common) type of large battery to use is a sealed lead acid. Technically called Valve-Regulated Lead Acid, but more commonly called "gel cells" or AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat). While there are slight charging differences between gel & AGMs which need to be observed, for our purposes here either will work the same. These are NOT automotive batteries, but rather true deep cycle batteries. Perhaps you already know this, but automotive batteries have many, thin lead plates that give a lot of surface area. This is great for sudden, short periods of high current draw, like starting your car, but very bad for long-term discharge (like leaving your headlights or radio on). True deep cycle batteries are essentially the opposite, made with fewer but thicker lead plates, and generally poor at very high current discharges, but great at running smaller loads long term. Some AGM batteries on the market now will work as starting batteries, too, but that's not relevant for our needs. If you're on a tight budget, a car battery will work at low power for a while, but you'll quickly want a better battery. The batteries labeled as "deep cycle" at the big stores generally are NOT deep cycle - it's just marketing. You'll likely have to go to a real battery store, though the some of Optima line of batteries are deep cycle, and can be found at Sears, among other shops. The gel- & AGM-style batteries are sealed to the point where you can't add water, but if over-charged will vent gas. However, with a quality charger, this is a non-issue and these batteries are approved for in-home use (think electric scooters and wheelchairs). This is an example of a quality, American-made AGM battery: http://www.sunxtender.com/ We've used these at work for our remote weather sites for the last 5 years or so, and have been quite happy with them (no financial relation, yada yada yada). The PVX-1040T size is one we use; it's rated at around 100 AH (at a 20-hour rate), and tend to cost around $230. Not cheap, eh? There are less expensive brands out there, typically made in China. I have zero experience with these. This is a long email (sorry), but food for thought. There are lots of battery choices out there, but since you've picked the top rig, I thought I'd show you one of the top batteries ;-) Once you've got your batteries picked out, get a quality charger. There's no better way to destroy any battery than to cook it (or chronically under-charge it) than with a crappy charger. I'd even venture to say that if you want to save money on batteries now, put the money towards a good charger - it will outlast at least a few sets of batteries. If you already have a power supply, or simply as another option, West Mountain Radio's Super PWRGate works well (http://westmountainradio.com/SuperPWRgate.htm). It needs a power source, but has a charging circuit and essentially works as an uninterruptable power supply for your rig. I bought one 3 or 4 years ago, and it's done a great job of maintaining my batteries. 73, Mike KW1ND __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator
shoot... some toroids are wound for free... just pay the shipping... --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator
Dunno. lots of people seem to complain about winding toroids, so I just assumed they'd be a PITA. There's even a toroid winding service?!?!? On the other hand, I've never been one to shy away from a challenge. James K2QI _ From: Wes Stewart [mailto:n...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:12 PM To: 'Elecraft'; James Sarte Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator --- On Mon, 1/4/10, James Sarte wrote: I'd have to agree... I'm thinking a K2 would be a nice summer-time project. Or perhaps *gasp* one of those fandangled DZKit Sienna's. ;-) Only thing I worry about is winding toroids. Why? What could be simpler? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Japanese prices ('disgruntled' thread re-titled)
Hi I wll foward this message to my blog. One of HAPPY users of KX1, K1, K2 and K3 73 aki ja1nlx Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Looks like there is a lot of confusion surrounding K3 pricing in Japan. :-) > > We've worked with EDC in Japan for 10 years. They are a very small > company, owned by JA8CCL, that is honorable and that gives support above > and beyond what is normally required to their customers. That includes > fixing improperly customer built K1s, KX1s, K2s and K3s under their > 'warranty' at no charge. They are a high value added distributor who > does not forget the customer once the sale is made. > > I agree that the prices can look high when just comparing the raw EDC JA > price to our web price. What many do not realize is that EDC bears a lot > of import and transport expense that would normally be borne by the > customer if they buy a product direct. > > The K3 prices listed by EDC also include the following ALL of the > following import and support costs that do not appear on our price list > here: > > 1. The local JA consumption tax. (VAT) In the US this is added to the > invoice at time of sale. In JA, EDC shows it already included on their > K3 price list. > > 2. Import duty entering JA. > > (The above two items are computed based on the total cost of the product > on the shipper invoice, including all shipping and handling costs. ) > > - EDC can't fly 'under the radar' as many individuals try to do. Like > us, they are carefully watched by the import officials and have to be > squeaky clean - paying all taxes, duties etc. > > 3. Import shipping to JA from CA. (not cheap!) > > 4. Cost of handling all the customs paperwork, fee payment etc. > Especially when importing larger value and size shipments, Japan can be > one of the more time consuming bureaucracies to deal with. > > 5. Cost of the variation in the Yen - Dollar exchange rate. > This is significant. The exchange rate has varied between 110 and 90 yen > to the dollar over the past 18 months, 22%, and even more so over the > past 2-1/2 years. I know of specific periods over the past ten years > where EDC has actually lost money importing our products due to shifts > in the exchange rate. > > 6. Cost of funds to carry inventory. EDC orders many of our products > well ahead of time and stocks them at their cost, tying up funds that > could be used elsewhere. > > 7. Cost to pay for their offices, test equipment and employees. > > > EDC also carries all of the cost of advertising in the JA local market. > Ads in JA CQ are way more expensive than QST. > > They also translate all of our manuals into Japanese. Not an easy > undertaking. > > On top of these costs they also need to make a small profit. It isn't > much, based on what I've observed. (He makes most of his revenue from > designing custom medical equipment and custom hard disk drive > manufacturing test equipment.) > > To be honest, JA8CCL does this out of his love for the hobby, and out of > a personal friendship with me going back 20 years. Once he sells a > product to a customer, he supports them for life. Period. He has a large > following of loyal customers, many who have emailed us directly to > compliment EDC on their support. > > That said, we're also always working with them to try to get the JA EDC > price lower. Its a challenge, but we'll keep working on it. There is not > a lot of margin to play with in the ham radio market. > > While others have pointed out that its difficult, if not impossible, to > buy most JA manufactured top end radios directly from Japan, please > let's not let this thread degenerate into a pro-con of one manufacturer > or government against another. > > Rather than tie up the reflector with an extended conversation on this, > please feel free to email me directly with any comments and suggestions > you might have. > > 73, Eric WA6HHQ > > > >>> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:09:32 -0800 >>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> From: fumi...@okushi.com >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >>> >>> I would personally prefer to buy from a local distributor, for the exact >>> reason you mention. >>> So I'm willing to pay a little extra for that convenience. >>> The question is how much will I (or more generally, one) be willing to pay >>> for the additional convenience. >>> >>> With regards to ham radio equipment, bands could be different from one >>> country to another (and certainly the case between US and JA), so there's >>> another reason you might want to deal locally. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV >>> >>> From: Duncan Carter >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >>> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:51:19 -0700 >>> >>> >>> Another consideration is the degree of risk in acting as your own import/export agent. Almost all vendors sell on terms where the buyer is the owner of the equipment once it leave the seller's facility. If
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham
You might consider going with a G5RV antenna as a "starter" antenna. It's multiband...80 meters and up to I think 10 meters...your rig has the auto-tuner so any minor matching adjustments will be handled by the tuner just fine. There's no real challenges with the antenna. It's not the "best" antenna in the world, but it will work very well as a simple starter antenna (people have worked the world with them), especially if your tree is high enough. I assume you have 1 tree? If so, then I'm assuming you'll run this in an inverted-vee configuration (center up high as possible, ends slope down from center at a 30 to 45 degree angle). The inverted-v is a little more omni-directional, which again is good for a starter antenna. I think key is getting the center up as high as you can. 30 feet? 40 feet? Again, as much height as you can will help (in general). If you are pressed for space, then you can always consider the G5RV jr. It's shorter in length, requires less height, but it only runs 40 meters and up (40 - 10). I believe MFJ has a G5RV. If not, there's plenty other vendors that do. One's pretty much as good as another. The G5RV is simple enough that you could probably even make one yourself... I can't comment too much on the batteries, other than to say I know of people powering their rigs using car batteries and golf cart batteries... Good luck and welcome to Amateur Radio! 73, Dave K6DCH On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:19 PM, KC2VNI wrote: > > Folks: I am a new ham. I just purchased a K3 100W radio with an auto-tuner. > Several basic questions: > > 1) Wire antennas- Do you guys have suggestions for a multi-band wire antenna > pre-made by someone like MFJ or similar that I could hang in a tree? > > 2) Battery based power: From speaking with the fellow from customer support > from elecraft, a 100 Amp-Hr battery is what is required to operate at 100W. > What type of battery do I use? Is sealed-lead acid acceptable? What size > fuses do I want on the line running from the radio to the battery? > > I recognize that this radio has orders of magnitude of capability that I > don't understand yet. I also recognize that reading the manual will be of a > help here. If you have further resources and/or suggestions, please advise. > > 73, > > KC2VNI. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4253024.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator
--- On Mon, 1/4/10, James Sarte wrote: I'd have to agree... I'm thinking a K2 would be a nice summer-time project. Or perhaps *gasp* one of those fandangled DZKit Sienna's. ;-) Only thing I worry about is winding toroids. Why? What could be simpler? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham
Steve, Congratulations and welcome. I can't recommend a manufactured antenna since I make all of my own, which I encourage you to do eventually. I do understand your desire to get on quickly, though and I suspect you will get a lot of recommendations, some better than others. As to the battery, I use a Absorbed Glass Mat (AGM) 92 AH battery made by East Penn Manufacturing and sold under their "Deka" brand. (http://www.eastpenn-deka.com/assets/base/0139.pdf) I have it on continuous charge via a home-built 30A "smart charger." The charger to battery circuit (both wires) is fused at 30A and the radio circuit is fused at 25A. In addition I use a "battery boost" regulator made by TGE (http://stores.tgelectronics.org/Detail.bok?no=11) to provide a constant 14.1V at the radio regardless of battery state, and the inevitable voltage drop in the wiring. I can tell you that at the 100W level, without the charger running and the booster off, it doesn't take long before the K3 is beeping and warning about low battery voltage. This system was put together for RV/Field Day use, but I also use it in the fixed location when the RV is in storage, even though I have an Astron RM-35 sitting right next to the charger. Wes N7WS --- On Mon, 1/4/10, KC2VNI wrote: From: KC2VNI Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 6:19 PM Folks: I am a new ham. I just purchased a K3 100W radio with an auto-tuner. Several basic questions: 1) Wire antennas- Do you guys have suggestions for a multi-band wire antenna pre-made by someone like MFJ or similar that I could hang in a tree? 2) Battery based power: From speaking with the fellow from customer support from elecraft, a 100 Amp-Hr battery is what is required to operate at 100W. What type of battery do I use? Is sealed-lead acid acceptable? What size fuses do I want on the line running from the radio to the battery? I recognize that this radio has orders of magnitude of capability that I don't understand yet. I also recognize that reading the manual will be of a help here. If you have further resources and/or suggestions, please advise. 73, KC2VNI. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 Toroid Wire Coating
I saved this originally posted by Ron, AC7AC of this list, I found it very informative, in that " a picture is worth a thousand words" ...thanks Ron http://emtech.steadynet.com/rm/tinning_200_l.ram Tom WB2QDG K2 1103 - Original Message - From: "Don Wilhelm" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Toroid Wire Coating > Bob, > > You are being too picky - the cores are not conductive. The only thing > to be careful of is shorted turns. I normally tin the leads all the way > up to the core unless there is a reason to leave an insulated lead (as > there is on the KXB3080 LPF toroid L2). > > If you are using a flame, be careful you do not overheat the copper, and > often the residue from a flame will leave a deposit that is difficult to > remove and the solder will not adhere to it - so use only enough heat to > melt the insulation and no more (do not stick the wire directly into the > blue part of the flame). > > Try the solder blob method, it is easier and more clean - use a wide tip > on the iron so it will hold a reasonable blob or solder and turn the > iron temperature up to 800 deg F or more (lower temperatures can lead to > frustration and long times before the lead is tinned). > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > flashan...@aol.com wrote: >> For my first several toroid windings, I have used a Bic lighter flame to >> burn off the coating on the wire tails, followed by a sanding with the >> supplied P180 sandpaper. I noticed it can burn up the wire fast and one >> of them >> lost the coating up to the core. Should I recoat, especially where the >> lead may touch the wound toroid, like the horizontal RFC11? What is a >> suitable recoat for the wire? Or am I being too picky? >> >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator
I'd have to agree... I'm thinking a K2 would be a nice summer-time project. Or perhaps *gasp* one of those fandangled DZKit Sienna's. ;-) Only thing I worry about is winding toroids. 73 de James K2QI -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike B Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:50 PM To: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator The biggest problem with kit building is that you typically get done far too quickly. That leaves you feeling empty and yearning for yet more kits to build, and on and on... 73, Mike KW1ND __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator
The biggest problem with kit building is that you typically get done far too quickly. That leaves you feeling empty and yearning for yet more kits to build, and on and on... 73, Mike KW1ND __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator
Funny, I too just finished putting it together. Works with no problems on the first test. And, my K3 kit arrived today. The boxes are sitting here on the floor in my den and I will probably get started on it tomorrow. Tonight I am reading through the assembly manual. phil, K7PEH On Jan 4, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > Congrats James. > > I've been homebrewing since 1958 but I too just put together an XG2 that > Santa delivered. Nice little "starter kit" and useful too. > > Wes N7WS > > --- On Mon, 1/4/10, James Sarte wrote: > > From: James Sarte > Subject: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator > To: "Elecraft" > Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 5:55 PM > > Hello group, > > Just wanted to let you know that I assembled my first real Elecraft kit > today, and that was the XG2 signal generator. It took me about 2 hours to > assemble the kit. I took my time, and read the assembly errata before > beginning. I'm rather pleased with myself as this was the first solder kit > I've tackled; everything else has been plug-together-assembly. I've also > just completed calibrating my K3's s-meter, which was a rather painless > process. > > I'm now ready to tackle my next solder-together kit. K2 perhaps? :) > > -- > 73 de James K2QI > > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham
Give us some details about your tree so we can help. Where did you purchase it, brand etc.? Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: "KC2VNI" To: Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:19 PM Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham > > Folks: I am a new ham. I just purchased a K3 100W radio with an > auto-tuner. > Several basic questions: > > 1) Wire antennas- Do you guys have suggestions for a multi-band wire > antenna > pre-made by someone like MFJ or similar that I could hang in a tree? > > 2) Battery based power: From speaking with the fellow from customer > support > from elecraft, a 100 Amp-Hr battery is what is required to operate at > 100W. > What type of battery do I use? Is sealed-lead acid acceptable? What size > fuses do I want on the line running from the radio to the battery? > > I recognize that this radio has orders of magnitude of capability that I > don't understand yet. I also recognize that reading the manual will be of > a > help here. If you have further resources and/or suggestions, please > advise. > > 73, > > KC2VNI. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4253024.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.125/2600 - Release Date: 01/04/10 14:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham
Folks: I am a new ham. I just purchased a K3 100W radio with an auto-tuner. Several basic questions: 1) Wire antennas- Do you guys have suggestions for a multi-band wire antenna pre-made by someone like MFJ or similar that I could hang in a tree? 2) Battery based power: From speaking with the fellow from customer support from elecraft, a 100 Amp-Hr battery is what is required to operate at 100W. What type of battery do I use? Is sealed-lead acid acceptable? What size fuses do I want on the line running from the radio to the battery? I recognize that this radio has orders of magnitude of capability that I don't understand yet. I also recognize that reading the manual will be of a help here. If you have further resources and/or suggestions, please advise. 73, KC2VNI. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4253024.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator
Congrats James. I've been homebrewing since 1958 but I too just put together an XG2 that Santa delivered. Nice little "starter kit" and useful too. Wes N7WS --- On Mon, 1/4/10, James Sarte wrote: From: James Sarte Subject: [Elecraft] XG2 signal generator To: "Elecraft" Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 5:55 PM Hello group, Just wanted to let you know that I assembled my first real Elecraft kit today, and that was the XG2 signal generator. It took me about 2 hours to assemble the kit. I took my time, and read the assembly errata before beginning. I'm rather pleased with myself as this was the first solder kit I've tackled; everything else has been plug-together-assembly. I've also just completed calibrating my K3's s-meter, which was a rather painless process. I'm now ready to tackle my next solder-together kit. K2 perhaps? :) -- 73 de James K2QI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Re: Japanese prices ('disgrunt led' thread re-titled)
Hello Eric, Thanks for the thorough clarification. If you have no objection, can I translate your message in Japanese and pass it to the ham colleagues in Japan who are complaining about the excessive price differences? I think this will let them understand more so that they can make their own judgement and customer's choice. 73 & HNY Johnny Siu VR2XMC - 郵件原件 寄件人﹕ "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" 收件人﹕ The Smiths 副本(CC) Elecraft Reflector ; Wayne Burdick 傳送日期﹕ 2010/1/5 (二) 7:47:27 AM 主題: Re: [Elecraft] Japanese prices ('disgruntled' thread re-titled) Looks like there is a lot of confusion surrounding K3 pricing in Japan. :-) We've worked with EDC in Japan for 10 years. They are a very small company, owned by JA8CCL, that is honorable and that gives support above and beyond what is normally required to their customers. That includes fixing improperly customer built K1s, KX1s, K2s and K3s under their 'warranty' at no charge. They are a high value added distributor who does not forget the customer once the sale is made. I agree that the prices can look high when just comparing the raw EDC JA price to our web price. What many do not realize is that EDC bears a lot of import and transport expense that would normally be borne by the customer if they buy a product direct. The K3 prices listed by EDC also include the following ALL of the following import and support costs that do not appear on our price list here: 1. The local JA consumption tax. (VAT) In the US this is added to the invoice at time of sale. In JA, EDC shows it already included on their K3 price list. 2. Import duty entering JA. (The above two items are computed based on the total cost of the product on the shipper invoice, including all shipping and handling costs. ) - EDC can't fly 'under the radar' as many individuals try to do. Like us, they are carefully watched by the import officials and have to be squeaky clean - paying all taxes, duties etc. 3.. Import shipping to JA from CA. (not cheap!) 4. Cost of handling all the customs paperwork, fee payment etc. Especially when importing larger value and size shipments, Japan can be one of the more time consuming bureaucracies to deal with. 5. Cost of the variation in the Yen - Dollar exchange rate. This is significant. The exchange rate has varied between 110 and 90 yen to the dollar over the past 18 months, 22%, and even more so over the past 2-1/2 years. I know of specific periods over the past ten years where EDC has actually lost money importing our products due to shifts in the exchange rate. 6. Cost of funds to carry inventory.. EDC orders many of our products well ahead of time and stocks them at their cost, tying up funds that could be used elsewhere. 7. Cost to pay for their offices, test equipment and employees. EDC also carries all of the cost of advertising in the JA local market. Ads in JA CQ are way more expensive than QST. They also translate all of our manuals into Japanese. Not an easy undertaking. On top of these costs they also need to make a small profit. It isn't much, based on what I've observed. (He makes most of his revenue from designing custom medical equipment and custom hard disk drive manufacturing test equipment.) To be honest, JA8CCL does this out of his love for the hobby, and out of a personal friendship with me going back 20 years. Once he sells a product to a customer, he supports them for life. Period. He has a large following of loyal customers, many who have emailed us directly to compliment EDC on their support. That said, we're also always working with them to try to get the JA EDC price lower. Its a challenge, but we'll keep working on it. There is not a lot of margin to play with in the ham radio market. While others have pointed out that its difficult, if not impossible, to buy most JA manufactured top end radios directly from Japan, please let's not let this thread degenerate into a pro-con of one manufacturer or government against another. Rather than tie up the reflector with an extended conversation on this, please feel free to email me directly with any comments and suggestions you might have. 73, Eric WA6HHQ >> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:09:32 -0800 >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> From: fumi...@okushi.com >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >> >> I would personally prefer to buy from a local distributor, for the exact >> reason you mention. >> So I'm willing to pay a little extra for that convenience. >> The question is how much will I (or more generally, one) be willing to pay >> for the additional convenience. >> >> With regards to ham radio equipment, bands could be different from one >> country to another (and certainly the case between US and JA), so there's >> another reason you might want to deal locally. >> >> Regards, >> Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV Yahoo!香港提供網上安全攻略,教你如何防範黑客! 請前往 http://hk.promo.yahoo.com/security/ 了解更多! __
[Elecraft] XG2 signal generator
Hello group, Just wanted to let you know that I assembled my first real Elecraft kit today, and that was the XG2 signal generator. It took me about 2 hours to assemble the kit. I took my time, and read the assembly errata before beginning. I'm rather pleased with myself as this was the first solder kit I've tackled; everything else has been plug-together-assembly. I've also just completed calibrating my K3's s-meter, which was a rather painless process. I'm now ready to tackle my next solder-together kit. K2 perhaps? :) -- 73 de James K2QI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgruntled Europeans
Hi, It's been an interesting discussion. As a naturalized US citizen I am fully aware how privileged we are in this country buying equipment of any kind, imported or not. I just went through the motions of ordering the VX-8R from Universal Radio except the final step of actually placing the order. My final price shipped UPS ground (5 days typical) to my New York home is $369.90. There is a 9.95$ shipping charge but then there is currently a $20 coupon applied by Universal. No sales tax since Universal does no business in NY. Even in the few cases where sales tax applies, it's a "mere" 7-9%. I do feel bad for my fellow hams in most other countries who are not as fortunate. AB2TC - Knut Julian, G4ILO wrote: > > It's really a dream. There are so many hid of all sortsden costs that much > of the saving gets eaten up by the time the product gets here. I just did > a quick example of a Yaesu VX-8R, listed by Universal Radio at $379. Add > on say $50 for international shipping. That comes to GBP 268 (£1 = $1.60) > You'll be charged 17.5% VAT on arrival here plus a GBP 13 tax collection > fee bringing the total to GBP 328. Nevada Radio is selling the EU version > (VX-8E) for GBP 338. So ten quid gets you the EU version plus a locally > supported warranty. > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Disgrunteled-Japanese-tp4250692p4252918.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgruntled Europeans
Doug Turnbull wrote: > > Many EU hams look at prices in QST and CQ and just dream. It seems that > one can > purchase Japanese made radios in the States for the same price in dollars > as > one pays in Euros or Sterling. > It's really a dream. There are so many hidden costs that much of the saving gets eaten up by the time the product gets here. I just did a quick example of a Yaesu VX-8R, listed by Universal Radio at $379. Add on say $50 for international shipping. That comes to GBP 268 (£1 = $1.60) You'll be charged 17.5% VAT on arrival here plus a GBP 13 tax collection fee bringing the total to GBP 328. Nevada Radio is selling the EU version (VX-8E) for GBP 338. So ten quid gets you the EU version plus a locally supported warranty. > I believe that being able to purchase the kit K3 directly is a great plus > to > Elecrafter sales in the EU. True one is a bit exposed as to service but > if > one has built the kit then individual boards can be returned for service. > The K3 is small and not that heavy to ship back if needs be for that > matter. > I wonder if those who have actually had to ship a K3 back to the US from Europe would agree? I know for a fact that whenever I write on my website or blog about something I bought in the US I get emails from hams asking where in the UK they can order. Many in our hobby are a pretty conservative bunch and will not buy from outside the UK. I think Elecraft could actually be losing sales by not selling through local dealers, not least because there are some people with money burning a hole in their pocket who go to Martin Lynch or W&S on a Saturday morning looking for a new toy to take home and play with, and if there isn't a K3 there to try out they'll buy something else instead. However I suspect if Elecraft did sell through UK dealers the extra cost to us would be a lot more than in my Yaesu example because there is no dealer mark-up in the price we pay from Elecraft, whereas the Japanese manufacturers have local offices and dealers taking their cut on both sides of the Atlantic. So carry on selling direct, please. :) - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Disgrunteled-Japanese-tp4250692p4252787.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Let me build a K2 for you
Alan Price-3 wrote: > > > Let me build a K2, or any other Elecraft kit, for you. You will receive a > brand new radio with the options you want. I have built very close to 300 > K2's to date. My prices are reasonable. Please respond directly, not on > the reflector. > > > > 73 > > Alan > > W1HYV > > I think that's great that you have had the opportunity to build that many > K2's Alan. I for one have so enjoyed the assembly of mine that I am would > never give up the opportunity to build one. > > Oh Wait . I needed another radio like I needed another hole in my head > I bought the K2 solely for the experience of building it and then > enjoying it for cw. > > From what little I have seen and heard from the receiver to date, (Just > finished the finals install today and am adding parts for options) I am > going to be completely happy with that choice. BTW I debated about buying > the toroids prewound but am glad I opted to do my own. I don't have the > enthusiastic assistants that Conway has for backup so I have had to muddle > through it by myself. :) Hopefully the transmitter will check out fine > and I'll very soon have it on the air.. > > 72/3 and cheerio all > > Garry/Ve7ajj > > _ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Let-me-build-a-K2-for-you-tp4247199p4252717.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Japanese prices ('disgruntled' thread re-titled)
Looks like there is a lot of confusion surrounding K3 pricing in Japan. :-) We've worked with EDC in Japan for 10 years. They are a very small company, owned by JA8CCL, that is honorable and that gives support above and beyond what is normally required to their customers. That includes fixing improperly customer built K1s, KX1s, K2s and K3s under their 'warranty' at no charge. They are a high value added distributor who does not forget the customer once the sale is made. I agree that the prices can look high when just comparing the raw EDC JA price to our web price. What many do not realize is that EDC bears a lot of import and transport expense that would normally be borne by the customer if they buy a product direct. The K3 prices listed by EDC also include the following ALL of the following import and support costs that do not appear on our price list here: 1. The local JA consumption tax. (VAT) In the US this is added to the invoice at time of sale. In JA, EDC shows it already included on their K3 price list. 2. Import duty entering JA. (The above two items are computed based on the total cost of the product on the shipper invoice, including all shipping and handling costs. ) - EDC can't fly 'under the radar' as many individuals try to do. Like us, they are carefully watched by the import officials and have to be squeaky clean - paying all taxes, duties etc. 3. Import shipping to JA from CA. (not cheap!) 4. Cost of handling all the customs paperwork, fee payment etc. Especially when importing larger value and size shipments, Japan can be one of the more time consuming bureaucracies to deal with. 5. Cost of the variation in the Yen - Dollar exchange rate. This is significant. The exchange rate has varied between 110 and 90 yen to the dollar over the past 18 months, 22%, and even more so over the past 2-1/2 years. I know of specific periods over the past ten years where EDC has actually lost money importing our products due to shifts in the exchange rate. 6. Cost of funds to carry inventory. EDC orders many of our products well ahead of time and stocks them at their cost, tying up funds that could be used elsewhere. 7. Cost to pay for their offices, test equipment and employees. EDC also carries all of the cost of advertising in the JA local market. Ads in JA CQ are way more expensive than QST. They also translate all of our manuals into Japanese. Not an easy undertaking. On top of these costs they also need to make a small profit. It isn't much, based on what I've observed. (He makes most of his revenue from designing custom medical equipment and custom hard disk drive manufacturing test equipment.) To be honest, JA8CCL does this out of his love for the hobby, and out of a personal friendship with me going back 20 years. Once he sells a product to a customer, he supports them for life. Period. He has a large following of loyal customers, many who have emailed us directly to compliment EDC on their support. That said, we're also always working with them to try to get the JA EDC price lower. Its a challenge, but we'll keep working on it. There is not a lot of margin to play with in the ham radio market. While others have pointed out that its difficult, if not impossible, to buy most JA manufactured top end radios directly from Japan, please let's not let this thread degenerate into a pro-con of one manufacturer or government against another. Rather than tie up the reflector with an extended conversation on this, please feel free to email me directly with any comments and suggestions you might have. 73, Eric WA6HHQ >> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:09:32 -0800 >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> From: fumi...@okushi.com >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >> >> I would personally prefer to buy from a local distributor, for the exact >> reason you mention. >> So I'm willing to pay a little extra for that convenience. >> The question is how much will I (or more generally, one) be willing to pay >> for the additional convenience. >> >> With regards to ham radio equipment, bands could be different from one >> country to another (and certainly the case between US and JA), so there's >> another reason you might want to deal locally. >> >> Regards, >> Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV >> >> From: Duncan Carter >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese >> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:51:19 -0700 >> >> >>> Another consideration is the degree of risk in acting as your own >>> import/export agent. Almost all vendors sell on terms where the buyer >>> is the owner of the equipment once it leave the seller's facility. If >>> there's a problem during transit, it becomes the buyer's problem. >>> Insurance can help but it's not a cure-all; avoidance of claims payment >>> is a common practice. In many countries, getting equipment through >>> customs can be a real "adventure". Most countries are also familiar >>> with the many ruses for avoiding
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Open question : K3 and interfaces used for digi modes...
Lionel-F6FCD wrote: > > Who and how are you using Elecraft products with interfaces for digi-mode > ? > What are you doing with ? what kind of mode is interresting ? > > And alsowhat kind of software.a lot are available on the web > I am using the program I wrote myself, KComm, for PSK31 as well as general logging. I think PSK31 is the most interesting digital mode because it is the most popular, and because there is enough activity that there are even stations using it from quite rare DX locations. If you want to try other digital modes then I would recommend Fldigi. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Open-question-K3-and-interfaces-used-for-digi-modes-tp4251353p4252701.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Fumiaki Okushi wrote: > > Have you actually done price comparison? > Yaesu, Kenwood, ICOM products are only slightly more expensive in the US > market. > With respect to Canon and Nikon (and I believe you are referring to DSLR), > they are usually cheaper in the US market (because of fierce competition). > For example, Nikon D300S (body only). > You can get it in Tokyo from Yodobashi Camera (one of the major camera > stores in Japan) for 177000 yen, > which at today's exchange rate is $1900. > You can find the same D300S at Wolf Camera (US camera store chain) for > $1700. > There's a lot of misinformation flowing here...Fumi-san is correct. I traveled to Japan frequently in the 70s and 80s and bought several cameras and even a (Trio nee Kenwood) TS-820S in local markets there. The savings were substantial then but, beginning in the mid-1980s, it became cheaper to buy equipment from NYC distributors, not to mention potential warranty issues...ditto for Hong Kong prices. BTW the D300S body is available for $1500 from B&H Photo shipped and even $1389 from a less trustworthy distributor. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Disgrunteled-Japanese-tp4250692p4252613.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft Disgruntled JA
In VK we have a GST exemption from the US provided the goods value (including freight) does not exceed $1,000.00 Australian Dollars. If the item(s) exceed this amount, then a GST of 10 percent is applied. But the freight charges from the US for say an Ameritron 811H amplifier will be added to the sell price of around $800.00 (depending on where you shop) will likely end up at around $1,250.00 or thereabouts. Dealers in VK regularly advertise these amplifiers for $1,799 plus freight, or in one case $1,899.00 delivered anywhere in VK. Even the most liberal thinker would question the difference. Yes the seller will have a list of reasons ready to offer the customer who dares to ask why the price is so high. Customs clearance charges, freight cost's as all this gear comes air freight, GST and "warranty" allowance etc. Sounds good, till you need to claim on the warranty...(:-)) YMMV 73's Gary VK4FD - Portable Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Guys, it's obvious what's going on here: Have you put any consideration into the fact that when Japan imports something to the US we pay almost NO import taxes, yet when something American is sent to Japan you guys stick us with almost a 40% import tax (not including the cost to ship things over seas)... Why is it that when I send something to China in a 1 pound box it cost me $40 US. Yet when I order my cell phone parts from China, and they send the SAME 1 pound box direct it cost them only $4.50... Nothing new there either. It's been obvious to me that America is the last country left to alow almost anything in to our country free of import/export taxes and terrifs. And you wonder why we have lower prices here?? Really? Sorry you have to pay more there in Japan, but you'll probably need to talk to your government about that... Not Elecraft.. > Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:09:32 -0800 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > From: fumi...@okushi.com > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese > > I would personally prefer to buy from a local distributor, for the exact > reason you mention. > So I'm willing to pay a little extra for that convenience. > The question is how much will I (or more generally, one) be willing to pay > for the additional convenience. > > With regards to ham radio equipment, bands could be different from one > country to another (and certainly the case between US and JA), > so there's another reason you might want to deal locally. > > Regards, > Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV > > From: Duncan Carter > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese > Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:51:19 -0700 > > > Another consideration is the degree of risk in acting as your own > > import/export agent. Almost all vendors sell on terms where the buyer > > is the owner of the equipment once it leave the seller's facility. If > > there's a problem during transit, it becomes the buyer's problem. > > Insurance can help but it's not a cure-all; avoidance of claims payment > > is a common practice. In many countries, getting equipment through > > customs can be a real "adventure". Most countries are also familiar > > with the many ruses for avoiding import duties; most have a high degree > > of regulation of payment for just this reason. Attempting to avoid such > > duties can produce a high risk of having the equipment confiscated. > > > > Dunc, W5DC > > > > Dick Williams wrote: > >> Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without > >> going thru their dealers in the states? > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Richmond Frostfest
Who will be exhibiting for Elecraft at this year's Frostfest? HNY and 73 Tom K4AEN K3 #3497 dit dit __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Let me build a K2 for you
> I'm building my K2 with two assistants...one 7 years old...one 3 years > old... > > My 7 year old is in charge of holding the solder. > My 3 year old is in charge of the pliers to clip the lead > while assisting > me in holding the soldering iron. > > Of course, it takes about three times as long to get anything > done with > so many assistants sitting on your lap but we are having a > lot of fun... > > Even washing our hands after soldering (Pb) is a project > involving water > in all sorts of places that Mom isn't all thrilled aboutoops Now that's what I call Elmering! Nice going Conway, raising the next generation of Elecrafties. 73 Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
From: Hector Padron Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) > WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 > grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
From: Bob Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:51:51 -0500 > Should I be mad at Canon or Nikon?I don't think so.So the JA's > don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot. Have you actually done price comparison? Yaesu, Kenwood, ICOM products are only slightly more expensive in the US market. With respect to Canon and Nikon (and I believe you are referring to DSLR), they are usually cheaper in the US market (because of fierce competition). For example, Nikon D300S (body only). You can get it in Tokyo from Yodobashi Camera (one of the major camera stores in Japan) for 177000 yen, which at today's exchange rate is $1900. You can find the same D300S at Wolf Camera (US camera store chain) for $1700. BTW, just in case I'm misunderstood, I think local distributors are okay, and some markups are okay (for the added convenience). I believe potential JA customers will agree on this. It's only when the markup is excessive, it becomes an issue.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
I would personally prefer to buy from a local distributor, for the exact reason you mention. So I'm willing to pay a little extra for that convenience. The question is how much will I (or more generally, one) be willing to pay for the additional convenience. With regards to ham radio equipment, bands could be different from one country to another (and certainly the case between US and JA), so there's another reason you might want to deal locally. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV From: Duncan Carter Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:51:19 -0700 > Another consideration is the degree of risk in acting as your own > import/export agent. Almost all vendors sell on terms where the buyer > is the owner of the equipment once it leave the seller's facility. If > there's a problem during transit, it becomes the buyer's problem. > Insurance can help but it's not a cure-all; avoidance of claims payment > is a common practice. In many countries, getting equipment through > customs can be a real "adventure". Most countries are also familiar > with the many ruses for avoiding import duties; most have a high degree > of regulation of payment for just this reason. Attempting to avoid such > duties can produce a high risk of having the equipment confiscated. > > Dunc, W5DC > > Dick Williams wrote: >> Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without >> going thru their dealers in the states? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
A couple of thoughts: 1) "Distributor jacking up the price" . . . Heathkit did the same thing forty years ago. You had your choice of buying direct from the factory at one price (lower), or with the convenience of buying from a local (more or less) distributor at another price (higher). There is not a thing wrong with this kind of merchandising or its resultant mark-up in price. The distributor has to stock parts, devote inventory space, hire staff, do billings, handle returns, etc. That's why "factory direct" (regardless of the product) is usually cheaper than through stores (although with some manufacturers it's often just a marketing ploy resulting in little if any discount in price). 2) "Exclusive Dealerships" . . . When Yaesu first started importing to the United States all sales were exclusively handled through Spectronics USA ("East" or "West"). There was never an option of buying factory-direct from Japan. Those FT-101s we so eagerly bought up (and in so doing put our American companies out of business) always cost more in the US than they did in Japan. To those of our JA brothers who are complaining about Elecraft doing the same thing, I merely remind them that "what goes around comes around." It's their turn now. 73, Kent K9ZTV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Let me build a K2 for you
GM4ESD writes: > I don't know about "most" either, but I, and our cat, built K2/100 # 3255 > some years ago. Beware of cats who try to "help", our Temple Cat takes an > unhealthy interest in multi "pin" SMDs. I don't know I'm building my K2 with two assistants...one 7 years old...one 3 years old... My 7 year old is in charge of holding the solder. My 3 year old is in charge of the pliers to clip the lead while assisting me in holding the soldering iron. Of course, it takes about three times as long to get anything done with so many assistants sitting on your lap but we are having a lot of fun... Even washing our hands after soldering (Pb) is a project involving water in all sorts of places that Mom isn't all thrilled aboutoops tnx. Conway Yee, N2JWQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
That is just the same as those here in the states buying or importing a "gray market" camera or other piece of electronics that the US dealers or distributors will not support. Should I be mad at Canon or Nikon?I don't think so.So the JA's don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot. 73, Bob K2TK Tom Meier wrote: > Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a > very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a > business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both > sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the > exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that > they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you > without access to any tech support. > > Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts > straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this > country also. But thought I'd pass this along. > > 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Another consideration is the degree of risk in acting as your own import/export agent. Almost all vendors sell on terms where the buyer is the owner of the equipment once it leave the seller's facility. If there's a problem during transit, it becomes the buyer's problem. Insurance can help but it's not a cure-all; avoidance of claims payment is a common practice. In many countries, getting equipment through customs can be a real "adventure". Most countries are also familiar with the many ruses for avoiding import duties; most have a high degree of regulation of payment for just this reason. Attempting to avoid such duties can produce a high risk of having the equipment confiscated. Dunc, W5DC Dick Williams wrote: > Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without > going thru their dealers in the states? > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:49 AM > To: Tom Meier > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese > > Tom, > > If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from > Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. > > He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, > but that is a different statement. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Tom Meier wrote: > >> Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting >> > a > >> very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a >> business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for >> > both > >> sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the >> exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true >> > that > >> they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you >> without access to any tech support. >> >> Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his >> > facts > >> straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this >> country also. But thought I'd pass this along. >> >> 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) >> >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4743 (20100104) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4743 (20100104) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? AD4C "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 5:45 PM Hi everyone, this is my first post. I also had a Japanese ham (in Japan) tell me the same story. I found on the order page on the Elecraft site the following line: "Note: All Japan orders (except expatriate orders) must be placed through our distributor: EDC" This sounds to me like if you're Japanese living in Japan and ordering from Japan, you have to order through EDC. If you go to the EDC site today, the price for the K3/10 kit is listed as 268600 yen, which at today's exchange rate is approx $2900. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV Don Wilhelm wrote: > Tom, > > If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from > Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. > > He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, > but that is a different statement. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Tom Meier wrote: >> Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a >> very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a >> business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both >> sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the >> exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that >> they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you >> without access to any tech support. >> >> Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts >> straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this >> country also. But thought I'd pass this along. >> >> 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 Toroid Wire Coating
Byron, The toroids will work just fine with the outer wires not flat against the core, but --- Pulling on the wire is *not* the way to accomplish nice tight toroids. The wire will break before it goes flat against the outside of the core. The way to make nice tight turns is to use a fingertip to press the wire against the outside of the core on *each* turn. No need to pull excessively, just dress it up against the core. 73, Don W3FPR Byron Servies wrote: > My toroids do not have the outer wires flat against the core as I see > in most pictures, even though I pulled rather hard on the wires as I > wound them, but they all seem to work well. I may try pressing them > down in future, if only for improved asthetics. The only problem I > found was that afterwards I needed to very carefully re-tin my > soldering iron tip to get rid of residue. I think I may use a wider > tip just for toroid winding next time. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Audio leakage
push and hold the MON button and make sure it is set to = 0 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Audio-leakage-tp4251795p4251996.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Let me build a K2 for you
I don't know about "most" either, but I, and our cat, built K2/100 # 3255 some years ago. Beware of cats who try to "help", our Temple Cat takes an unhealthy interest in multi "pin" SMDs. 73, Geoff GM4ESD Conway Yee wrote: > Are most K2 users people who buy it prebuilt? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Audio leakage
John-48 wrote: > > When transmitting, there is leakage from the microphone to the speaker > (e.g., feedback). > > > Push and hold the MON Button, make sure it is set to =0 > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Audio-leakage-tp4251795p4251965.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] AUDIO LEAKAGE
push and hold the MON button. make sure it is set to= 0 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
As one of the first of -many- who have managed to "blow up" the audio output IC in my K3, I'm qualified to comment. (;-) First, I'm fortunate in that I caught my failure quickly and only scorched the board. I know of others who's boards were burned black / charred. My "event' happened early-on in the time frame of this issue. I called Scott, had a conversation about the failure and was promptly sent a replacement. It was my -impression- at that time the cause of the IC failures wasn't really obvious, and that the IC was running at close to it's max capability. (Elecraft isn't known for doing this.) Therefore, I fabricated a multiple-finned copper sheet heat sink for the IC and placed it under the IC when I soldered it to the board. I understand there is now more "land" along the top of the board for additional heat-sinking of the IC. When I turned the radio on after the replacement, I stuck my finger down through the opening to feel the (added) heat sink and immediately checked my reaction time! It was HOT! The overheating problem was still with me! It was only then that I did what I should have done first ... determined the actual cause of the IC's failure. Like many, I had used a short 1/8" stereo "Y" cable to feed two external speakers. These speakers both had mono plugs, thereby shorting the right channel and causing the IC to overheat. Since my "event" I've always felt the manual is remiss in -strongly- alerting the user of the potential problem of plugging in a mono-plugged speaker. Yes, if one reads carefully and understands what's being said, the caution is there, but not all fully absorb the text's caution. Who reads the manual about the simple act of plugging in an external speaker? (:-) Elecraft has now added software and hardware "features' to protect us from ourselves, and now Tom is doing the same. As I said at the beginning ... I'm qualified to comment. READ THE BOOK! Even for the seemingly simple tasks. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@rfwave.net Tom and the List I appreciate Tom's design and a neat PCB package, but come on folks. This is easy to breadboard and stick in a plastic box. Go to Radio Shackbuy a little black project box...buy some connectors. You can use 3.5 mm jacks or RCA jacks. You can find them there to "hole" mount. Take some time and drill a couple of holes and then hardwired the box. Easy Peasey. No need for a PCB and all that stuff. How about some hook up wire in your junk box? Look around and you can find away to make this easy device without all the hassle. Nice job Tomyou make it nice when you make the PCB...but there is no shame of just using hook up wire in a box. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my mind. - J. Wolf From: Tom Hammond To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 1:20:07 PM Subject: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter Since the posting of the link to my K3 Speaker Splitter PC board, I have received a number of requests (orders if you will) for PC boards. I've been thinking about the problems some may encounter with regard to ordering the specific parts (PCB-mount 3.5mm stereo jacks) for the splitter, and more importantly the off the wall cost of shipping (usually $5-$7 US) for less than 3 oz of parts (and that's per each order placed). This raises the cost of the project significantly. I already have enough orders for PC boards that I'll not be able to fabricate them in the Kitchen (as I often do for very small PCB orders), and IF I proceed with the project from this end, I'll have FAR Circuits make the PC boards for the project. This will increase the cost of the project (just a bit), BUT it'll take a load off me, AND it'll help keep me in Jeri's (She Who Must By Obeyed) good graces...!!! I am proposing to completely 'kit' the project... all electronic parts, hardware, and PC boards... for $20 or less, delivered to US destinations... add $1 more for DX delivery. My initial PCB order will be for one 'sheet' of thirty (30) boards (main circuit board and an 'insulator' board to prevent the main board from shorting out against anything on the operating desk in back of the K3. To that end, I'll need a few more orders before I'll be able to commit to the cash outlay for the PC boards. IF you are interested in obtaining a kit for this project, PLEASE contact me a.s.a.p. I will make my final decision (GO or NO-GO) by the end of this week. If you are interested, you can see the docs on a previous version of the Splitter at: http://www.n0ss.net/index_k3.html and drop down to the
[Elecraft] Disgruntled Europeans
I do not know about the problems the excellent JA operators may have in importing equipment from Elecraft directly but I do find this information interesting. What I can tell you from personal experience is that many EU hams look at prices in QST and CQ and just dream. It seems that one can purchase Japanese made radios in the States for the same price in dollars as one pays in Euros or Sterling. Okay we have VAT rates (Sales tax) that run between 15% and 22% depending on one's country but this does not come close to explaining the price differentials. I believe that being able to purchase the kit K3 directly is a great plus to Elecrafter sales in the EU. True one is a bit exposed as to service but if one has built the kit then individual boards can be returned for service. The K3 is small and not that heavy to ship back if needs be for that matter. In EI if a piece of equipment breaks down it might need to be shipped off for repair to another EU country and that might not be so inexpensive. I believe that Elecraft is going to see a steady increase in world wide sales as more K3s are around for people to try. Of course the weak dollar is not hurting matters. The US needs to increase exports and the combination of performance and price competition is going to help K3 sales. As all hams know we live in a small world. Happy New Year73 Doug EI2CN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Audio leakage
When transmitting, there is leakage from the microphone to the speaker (e.g., feedback). This may be operator error (having inadvertantly pushed the wrong button at some point during operation) or a problem with the radio and affiliated firmware. I have atempted to read through the asorted notes, digests and manual to no avail. 'MIC+LIN' is off Regardless of cause, how can this feedback between microphone and speaker be eliminated? John Kountz. KE6GFF/T6EE sn: 03271 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power
Hello Rick, HNY2010. When I had output power problems at 15m, not at 20m, I increased the output power by 'tuning' the low pass output filter (L9/L10, L11/L12), suggested by ELECRAFT. By bringing windings together I was able to get the required output. It does not look as nice when having the windings evenly spread, but in the end the output power is more important. Make sure you have a dummy load when checking Pout, as when VSWR is poor, depending of the COAX length you will see high or low max output power on display K1. Reason: K1 is measuring Vpeak out, and calculates it back to power. So reading on display is only reliable when you have 50ohm, or have installed the internal antenna tuner. Also make sure you have 13.8V, Pout max between 12V and 13.8V makes a difference. I run it at 12V, Power is 5W at 15m/20m band, while running at 13.8V I can easily get up to 7Watt. For me 12V is fine. If tuning of the coils does not work, contact elecraft support, and refer to power problems from PE1FJN October this year at 15m SN: 2761. I changed 1 resistor on instructions from ELECRAFT. At this moment I have now no access to this mail(sorry), but I'm sure you will be able to get the same instructions. Having changed this resistor power was very fine, and not marginal anymore. Hope this helps, 73 PE1FJN Marc K1 SN:2761 PS: Good Luck, at 20m DX is really nice with this RIG. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K1-Low-power-tp4248493p4251649.html Sent from the [K1] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
Tom and the List I appreciate Tom's design and a neat PCB package, but come on folks. This is easy to breadboard and stick in a plastic box. Go to Radio Shackbuy a little black project box...buy some connectors. You can use 3.5 mm jacks or RCA jacks. You can find them there to "hole" mount. Take some time and drill a couple of holes and and then hardwired the box. Easy Peasey. No need for a PCB and all that stuff. How about some hook up wire in your junk box? Look around and you can find away to make this easy device without all the hassle. Nice job Tomyou make it nice when you make the PCB...but there is no shame of just using hook up wire in a box. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my mind. - J. Wolf From: Tom Hammond To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 1:20:07 PM Subject: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter Since the posting of the link to my K3 Speaker Splitter PC board, I have received a number of requests (orders if you will) for PC boards. I've been thinking about the problems some may encounter with regard to ordering the specific parts (PCB-mount 3.5mm stereo jacks) for the splitter, and more importantly the off the wall cost of shipping (usually $5-$7 US) for less than 3 oz of parts (and that's per each order placed). This raises the cost of the project significantly. I already have enough orders for PC boards that I'll not be able to fabricate them in the Kitchen (as I often do for very small PCB orders), and IF I proceed with the project from this end, I'll have FAR Circuits make the PC boards for the project. This will increase the cost of the project (just a bit), BUT it'll take a load off me, AND it'll help keep me in Jeri's (She Who Must By Obeyed) good graces...!!! I am proposing to completely 'kit' the project... all electronic parts, hardware, and PC boards... for $20 or less, delivered to US destinations... add $1 more for DX delivery. My initial PCB order will be for one 'sheet' of thirty (30) boards (main circuit board and an 'insulator' board to prevent the main board from shorting out against anything on the operating desk in back of the K3. To that end, I'll need a few more orders before I'll be able to commit to the cash outlay for the PC boards. IF you are interested in obtaining a kit for this project, PLEASE contact me a.s.a.p. I will make my final decision (GO or NO-GO) by the end of this week. If you are interested, you can see the docs on a previous version of the Splitter at: http://www.n0ss.net/index_k3.html and drop down to the line titled: "External (Dual) Speaker Splitter for the K3". The proposed project will be slightly smaller than that shown on my web page and will use 2-56 hardware as opposed to 4-40 hardware in the article. 73, Tom Hammond N0SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
Since the posting of the link to my K3 Speaker Splitter PC board, I have received a number of requests (orders if you will) for PC boards. I've been thinking about the problems some may encounter with regard to ordering the specific parts (PCB-mount 3.5mm stereo jacks) for the splitter, and more importantly the off the wall cost of shipping (usually $5-$7 US) for less than 3 oz of parts (and that's per each order placed). This raises the cost of the project significantly. I already have enough orders for PC boards that I'll not be able to fabricate them in the Kitchen (as I often do for very small PCB orders), and IF I proceed with the project from this end, I'll have FAR Circuits make the PC boards for the project. This will increase the cost of the project (just a bit), BUT it'll take a load off me, AND it'll help keep me in Jeri's (She Who Must By Obeyed) good graces...!!! I am proposing to completely 'kit' the project... all electronic parts, hardware, and PC boards... for $20 or less, delivered to US destinations... add $1 more for DX delivery. My initial PCB order will be for one 'sheet' of thirty (30) boards (main circuit board and an 'insulator' board to prevent the main board from shorting out against anything on the operating desk in back of the K3. To that end, I'll need a few more orders before I'll be able to commit to the cash outlay for the PC boards. IF you are interested in obtaining a kit for this project, PLEASE contact me a.s.a.p. I will make my final decision (GO or NO-GO) by the end of this week. If you are interested, you can see the docs on a previous version of the Splitter at: http://www.n0ss.net/index_k3.html and drop down to the line titled: "External (Dual) Speaker Splitter for the K3". The proposed project will be slightly smaller than that shown on my web page and will use 2-56 hardware as opposed to 4-40 hardware in the article. 73, Tom Hammond N0SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without going thru their dealers in the states? -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:49 AM To: Tom Meier Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Tom, If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, but that is a different statement. 73, Don W3FPR Tom Meier wrote: > Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a > very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a > business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both > sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the > exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that > they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you > without access to any tech support. > > Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts > straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this > country also. But thought I'd pass this along. > > 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] W1 software
Thanks David. I see that my keen eye for detail is still active. -Original Message- From: David Fleming [mailto:df...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:53 AM To: K5WA Cc: Elecraft reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] W1 software Hi Bob, You should be using the W2 interface software. Not W1. You can find it here: http://www.elecraft.com/software/W2/elecraft_w2_software.htm Regards and 73, David, W4SMT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
From: Duncan Carter Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:59:57 -0700 > Unless the situation has changed in Japan, it's customary or perhaps > required to use a import/export company/agent for sales in Japan. > Some countries make it extremely difficult for individuals to import > or export. Although my company doesn't do any business in Japan, we > do business in other countries where this situation applies. Generally speaking, import of goods by individuals is very popular in Japan. Having said that, I don't know if there's any special requirements for radio equipments.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Let me build a K2 for you
I don't know about "most" but I built 12 K2s beginning in early 2000 and sold 11. Still have #5413. 73, Ken K3IU ~ On 1/4/2010 1:39 PM, Conway Yee wrote: > W1HYV writes: > Are most K2 users people who buy it prebuilt? > > tnx. > Conway Yee, N2JWQ > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Let me build a K2 for you
W1HYV writes: >I have built very close to 300 K2's to date. Given that the current serial numbers are nearing 7000, having built 300 is on the order of 3-6% of the total constructed! If a SINGLE person is building that many and there are other people building for other hams, how many people have actually build their own K2? Are commercial builders responsible for more K2's than someone who builds 1-4 for themselves? For me the MAJOR attractions of the K2 is the ability to build your own modern HF rig (albeit 10 year old technology as someone alluded to in another thread), something that hasn't been seen since the days of Heathkit. Are most K2 users people who buy it prebuilt? tnx. Conway Yee, N2JWQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Sounds like Tokyo Hy-Power in reverse. I now get to pay dealer markup and sales tax so my L4-B will stay in service. --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Tom Meier wrote: From: Tom Meier Subject: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:30 AM Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you without access to any tech support. Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this country also. But thought I'd pass this along. 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 on 500 kHz
What I meant was that you *could* make a transverter for these bands and interface it to the K3 via KXV3 module. We don't have plans to offer one ourselves. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:03 AM, DL5OCD wrote: > > Hello Dick, > > if i don`t get wrong, Wayne mentioned a new transverter module for > the K3 > wich offers something for the > lowfers a few weeks ago. Stay tuned ! > > 73 > Michael > > > PA3CW wrote: >> >> Hello k3 Nabblers, >> >> I was happy surprized that now in The Netherlands we are also >> allowed to >> use 501 - 504 kHz in an experimental phase. As ex Radio Officer it >> has >> been around 25 years ago since my last transmission in this band! >> I was >> happy to discover that my K3 is very ok for receive on 500 kHz. For >> transmitting the 0,5 mW on the transperter output needs some work. >> We are >> allowed here to transmit with 5 W EIRP so i think i can use some >> output >> power in order to radiate this amount of power in a relatively short >> antenna. Who has made an amplifier for 500 kHz including ant >> switching >> circuit? I am very interested in a design that i can copy and build >> myself. Maybe also the team of Elecraft is working on something, >> however >> seen how busy they are with other things i dont think this has >> priority. >> Who can tell me their experience with the K3 on 500? >> >> Many thanks and a wonderful 2010 >> Dick PA3CW >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/K3-on-500-kHz-tp4245663p4251212.html > Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 on 500 kHz
Hello Dick, if i don`t get wrong, Wayne mentioned a new transverter module for the K3 wich offers something for the lowfers a few weeks ago. Stay tuned ! 73 Michael PA3CW wrote: > > Hello k3 Nabblers, > > I was happy surprized that now in The Netherlands we are also allowed to > use 501 - 504 kHz in an experimental phase. As ex Radio Officer it has > been around 25 years ago since my last transmission in this band! I was > happy to discover that my K3 is very ok for receive on 500 kHz. For > transmitting the 0,5 mW on the transperter output needs some work. We are > allowed here to transmit with 5 W EIRP so i think i can use some output > power in order to radiate this amount of power in a relatively short > antenna. Who has made an amplifier for 500 kHz including ant switching > circuit? I am very interested in a design that i can copy and build > myself. Maybe also the team of Elecraft is working on something, however > seen how busy they are with other things i dont think this has priority. > Who can tell me their experience with the K3 on 500? > > Many thanks and a wonderful 2010 > Dick PA3CW > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-on-500-kHz-tp4245663p4251212.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Unless the situation has changed in Japan, it's customary or perhaps required to use a import/export company/agent for sales in Japan. Some countries make it extremely difficult for individuals to import or export. Although my company doesn't do any business in Japan, we do business in other countries where this situation applies. Dunc, W5DC Fumiaki Okushi wrote: > Hi everyone, this is my first post. > > I also had a Japanese ham (in Japan) tell me the same story. > I found on the order page on the Elecraft site the following line: > > "Note: All Japan orders (except expatriate orders) must be placed through > our distributor: EDC" > > This sounds to me like if you're Japanese living in Japan and ordering from > Japan, you have to order through EDC. > > If you go to the EDC site today, the price for the K3/10 kit is listed as > 268600 yen, > which at today's exchange rate is approx $2900. > > Regards, > Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV > > > Don Wilhelm wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from >> Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. >> >> He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, >> but that is a different statement. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> Tom Meier wrote: >> >>> Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a >>> very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a >>> business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both >>> sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the >>> exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that >>> they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you >>> without access to any tech support. >>> >>> Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts >>> straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this >>> country also. But thought I'd pass this along. >>> >>> 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) >>> >>> >>> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] W1 software
Hi Bob, You should be using the W2 interface software. Not W1. You can find it here: http://www.elecraft.com/software/W2/elecraft_w2_software.htm Regards and 73, David, W4SMT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Hi everyone, this is my first post. I also had a Japanese ham (in Japan) tell me the same story. I found on the order page on the Elecraft site the following line: "Note: All Japan orders (except expatriate orders) must be placed through our distributor: EDC" This sounds to me like if you're Japanese living in Japan and ordering from Japan, you have to order through EDC. If you go to the EDC site today, the price for the K3/10 kit is listed as 268600 yen, which at today's exchange rate is approx $2900. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV Don Wilhelm wrote: > Tom, > > If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from > Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. > > He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, > but that is a different statement. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Tom Meier wrote: >> Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a >> very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a >> business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both >> sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the >> exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that >> they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you >> without access to any tech support. >> >> Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts >> straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this >> country also. But thought I'd pass this along. >> >> 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [MM] W2 Wattmeter
The W2 does exactly what it is supposed to do. And it does it pretty well. Assembly went smoothly. The problem IMHO is that it was developed by people who know a thing or two about power measurement, accuracy, resolution, precision and the like. For people who may not always be familiar with such matters... or are just accustomed to needle meters. With the W2 Utility and/or the W2 PC program, it is quite easy (and for some people maybe comforting) to adjust the W2 to match the 5+% error of your BIRD which is by no means supposed to be a standard (even if recently calibrated), hi... 73 Richard - HB9ANM KM4VX wrote: > > W2 WATTMETER I was doing some research and considering buying the Elecraft > W2 for use with my 2 K-2s and read the very negative reviews of the W2's > accuracy on E-Ham. I wonder if anyone would care to refute the E-HAM > reviews or offer positive comments about the W2's accuracy. At this point > I would have to choose the AUTEK or OAK HILLS meters over the W2. > Considering the cost of the W2 and Elecraft's attention to quality I would > expect a far more accurate meter than the reviews would indicate. Many > thanks. > - Richard - HB9ANM -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/W2-Wattmeter-tp4242517p4251054.html Sent from the [MM] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] W1 software
I finally got a chance to download and try the W1 software. I could not get it to recognize the attached W2. The W2 Configuration utility recognizes the W2 just fine. I released the port when closing down the W2 Utility and then made sure the port speed was correct before launching the W1 software. Still no connection. Is there something else I needed to do? Thanks, Bob K5WA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX Equaliser SW App?
Doug, I didn't see the start of this thread, so I'm not sure what you're seeking, but have a look at K3_EZ at: http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm All sorts of things you can set with it, including the equalizeers. 73, Mike NF4L GM0ELP wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Yes, I would also like to see firmware RX EQ by mode, but I've been told > it's a long way down the Elecraft to-do list due to complexity. However a > software approach opens new possibilities limited only by the CAT port > speed. > > By AF I mean the 50,100,200,400,800,1600,2400,3200Hz bands in the RX EQ > menu. I would like software to remove the manual drudgery (speed up > operation) of me having to manipulate an 8 band graphic equaliser for common > AF responses i.e. peak and notch check boxes and a sliders for width, ref > level, magnitude and frequency. > > I suppose the usefulness of any such software calls into question the > usefulness of the RX Equaliser in general. > > Doug > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Arrived of my new K3 SN 3756.
Hello all, I hope all a very nice happy new year. Just to inform you that my new K3 SN 3756 arrived home safely. I will assemble it next April so another reason (first is that I am missing my family a lot) to let time going quickly until mid April :) :) . Best 73 to all and a nice 2010 to everybody. T6AG David Quental __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 Toroid Wire Coating
On Jan 4, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Try the solder blob method, it is easier and more clean I recently completed K1 #2799 and wound the 23 toroids myself. I found the videos below from Ron to be exceptionally helpful and after a couple of trial runs with wire not yet wound on to a toroid, doing the real thing was easy. This is the one time I used a panavise in my build: to hold wound toroids gently while I tinned the leads. My toroids do not have the outer wires flat against the core as I see in most pictures, even though I pulled rather hard on the wires as I wound them, but they all seem to work well. I may try pressing them down in future, if only for improved asthetics. The only problem I found was that afterwards I needed to very carefully re-tin my soldering iron tip to get rid of residue. I think I may use a wider tip just for toroid winding next time. There was also great personal satisfaction in understanding how to adjust the VFO range to be more suitable for my general license, and then adjusting the winding spacing with a pick (using the built-in frequency counter!) to the range I wanted. This is why I chose to build a kit. Good luck, Byron KI6NUL On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It's really very easy to strip enameled wire using a 700F soldering station > with no special tips. > > They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Here's a video that's worth a > thousand pictures ;-) > > http://emtech.steadynet.com/rm/tinning_200_l.ram > > > Or, if you're using a dialup this will run better (with a lower image > quality). > > http://emtech.steadynet.com/rm/tinning_56_l.ram __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX Equaliser SW App?
Hi Paul, The rest of my post gave reasons why K3-EZ isn't the right solution for me, but thanks for the suggestion. In reading the content of the K3-EZ link you gave, it says that K3-EZ doesn't work with LP-Bridge. This is also a bit of a show stopper for me as my logging and pan adapter software are normally running on my PC. Doug - Original Message - From: Paul - WW2PT [via Elecraft] To: GM0ELP Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:26 PM Subject: Re: K3 RX Equaliser SW App? I use K3-EZ to do this sort of thing: http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm 73, Paul WW2PT GM0ELP wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know of a software application for controlling the K3 rx equaliser to specifically create easily adjustable audio filtering toys? -- View message @ http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-Equaliser-SW-App-tp4227853p4229860.html To unsubscribe from K3 RX Equaliser SW App?, click here. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-Equaliser-SW-App-tp4227853p4231507.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX Equaliser SW App?
Hi Paul, Yes, I would also like to see firmware RX EQ by mode, but I've been told it's a long way down the Elecraft to-do list due to complexity. However a software approach opens new possibilities limited only by the CAT port speed. By AF I mean the 50,100,200,400,800,1600,2400,3200Hz bands in the RX EQ menu. I would like software to remove the manual drudgery (speed up operation) of me having to manipulate an 8 band graphic equaliser for common AF responses i.e. peak and notch check boxes and a sliders for width, ref level, magnitude and frequency. I suppose the usefulness of any such software calls into question the usefulness of the RX Equaliser in general. Doug -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-Equaliser-SW-App-tp4227853p4229837.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX Equaliser SW App?
Hi Paul, The bandwidth and Notch should be done at the IF stage not the AF stage, I think everyone knows this. There has never been a question of where it is better to taylor response. Of course it's better to do these things at the IF stage. I am suggesting a 'cumulative' IF and AF response 'combined'. I could manually taylor (approximate) any required AF response using CAT commands and the available 8 audio bands and gain/attenuation levels. Why wouldn't software be able to do that? It's not a question of how steep the slopes are, its a matter of using an AF feature in the K3 to augment the IF performance. If there was a software tool available to approximately track AF to IF response would you try it? I would, and I think it is possible. Can you give me a reason why it isn't possible? Doug GM0ELP - Original Message - From: pd0psb [via Elecraft] To: GM0ELP Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: Re: K3 RX Equaliser SW App? Hi Doug, Some time ago Wayne and Lyle explained that the RX EQ is not meant as an extra "selectivity tool". It's there to do the last tailoring of passpand response, make up for room acoustics or speaker/hp response. The RX EQ modifies the IF passband and is not a seperate post-detector AF filter. Notch/HPF/LPF/etc can better (and much steeper) be done with bandwidth and notch controls. 73' Paul PD0PSB GM0ELP wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know of a software application for controlling the K3 rx equaliser to specifically create easily adjustable audio filtering toys? Ideally I would like something that replaces the manual manipulation of individual graphic equaliser sliders with more automated/general filter creation controls i.e. lpf/hpf(buttons), cuf-off freq (text entry box), peak/notch (buttons), magnitude and sweep (sliders). I don't have a specific use in mind, other than to be able to use the rx equaliser whilst operating. I have in the past created cat control sequencies for various filter functions and saved them individually as macros, but useabilty was poor. Any ideas/suggestions welcome. -- View message @ http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-Equaliser-SW-App-tp4227853p4229117.html To unsubscribe from K3 RX Equaliser SW App?, click here. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-Equaliser-SW-App-tp4227853p4229419.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Tom, If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, but that is a different statement. 73, Don W3FPR Tom Meier wrote: > Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a > very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a > business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both > sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the > exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that > they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you > without access to any tech support. > > Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts > straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this > country also. But thought I'd pass this along. > > 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
No Tech support? When did this happen? :) 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455 http://www.amateurradiotraining.org 2010/1/4 Tom Meier > Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting > a > very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a > business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for > both > sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the > exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true > that > they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you > without access to any tech support. > > Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts > straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this > country also. But thought I'd pass this along. > > 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%. Yes, it is true that they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you without access to any tech support. Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his facts straight and likes to spread rumors. We've got a few of them in this country also. But thought I'd pass this along. 73 de Tom (K7ZZ) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 Toroid Wire Coating
Bob, You are being too picky - the cores are not conductive. The only thing to be careful of is shorted turns. I normally tin the leads all the way up to the core unless there is a reason to leave an insulated lead (as there is on the KXB3080 LPF toroid L2). If you are using a flame, be careful you do not overheat the copper, and often the residue from a flame will leave a deposit that is difficult to remove and the solder will not adhere to it - so use only enough heat to melt the insulation and no more (do not stick the wire directly into the blue part of the flame). Try the solder blob method, it is easier and more clean - use a wide tip on the iron so it will hold a reasonable blob or solder and turn the iron temperature up to 800 deg F or more (lower temperatures can lead to frustration and long times before the lead is tinned). 73, Don W3FPR flashan...@aol.com wrote: > For my first several toroid windings, I have used a Bic lighter flame to > burn off the coating on the wire tails, followed by a sanding with the > supplied P180 sandpaper. I noticed it can burn up the wire fast and one of > them > lost the coating up to the core. Should I recoat, especially where the > lead may touch the wound toroid, like the horizontal RFC11? What is a > suitable recoat for the wire? Or am I being too picky? > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 Must be good
That's one of the reasons I haven't ordered a K3 yet. I'm having fun with the K2 and it's simple to operate. Perhaps I will end up with the K3 at some future date but, for right now, I'm satisfied with the K2. Plus, I had the satisfaction of building it myself. Yes, I know that you can also build the K3 but, it isn't the same. You know what I mean? Gary, N7HTS On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:47:08 -0800 Larry Dodson wrote: > With so few items about the K2 appearing, it must show how stable the K2 is. > Larry (G0IKE) K2 2424 > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Hi Q versus Vertical
Have to say I like what you did Dunc! Elegant and sounds like it's effective to boot! 73, Julius Dunc Carter - W5DC wrote: > > See: > > http://vibrotek.com/w5dc/w5dcant.html > > It's not exactly what you asked for but it might give you some useful > ideas. The WARC bands and 80 meters are not shown in these early > pictures. The upper half of 80 meters is a wire that's parallel to the > wire until it reaches the pole where it then goes up and over the > townhouse to a short fiberglass pole mounted in a vent pipe and then > down toward an enclosed patio. The wire is bare, stranded, #26 copper > clad steel and seems to survive well ( winds to 80 mph so fan plus > several snow storms up to 2 feet) as long as you don't kink the wire > during assembly. The lower half of the 80 meter wire is parallel to the > 40 wire and includes a coil under the deck at it's midpoint. It's been > good for 112 dxcc entities since summer; best/longest distance on 80 so > far is DS1REE. > > Dunc, W5DC > > Frank MacDonell wrote: >> I am looking for an antenna to work 6 thru 80 meters in a condo >> development. I presently own a k3/10. >> >> Stealth is a very strong consideration. It seems that a SteppIR >> Vertical or Hi Q antenna would make sense. Does anyone have experience >> with these two antennas for this type of application? Thanks you for >> your time and expertise. >> >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Hi-Q-versus-Vertical-tp4246657p4250576.html Sent from the [HAM] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] KX1 | KXAT1 ATU questions
Daniel, A half wave end fed at 40 meters will have extraordinarily high impedance. Shorten it and you find the KX1 will tune. The suggestion to use an antenna analyzer may be a very good option as well. Then you will know. There isn't enough tuning range in the tiny KX1 auto tuner. If you look through the archives, you will find some good suggestions from Wayne. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Paul Perez Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:53 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: chesapeake1...@post.harvard.edu Subject: [Elecraft] [KX1] KX1 | KXAT1 ATU questions My KX-1 has KXB3080, KXAT1, KXPD1 options. I am having trials and tribulations with the KXAT1 tuning my KX-1. My configuration was Cobra Senior Ultralight up 60-66' at one end 45-50' at the other with center up about 55-60' | 81 feet of 450 ohm ladder line runs that runs about 1' foot through a casement window | Balun Designs 4:1 4113t current balun | 3' coax with 239 - 239 connectors [703+] OR an amphenol 239/BNC adapter [KX-1]. In this config my Icom 703Plus tuned all bands and forward power was a bit diminished. The Elecraft KX-1 would not tune 40M only. KX1 is getting respectable power and swr on 80, 30 and 20 and 40 will throw a high power value and r9.9. Getting some advice from this reflector (Thanks to Dale - WC7S in WY) and the antenna manufacturer I then switched out the 3 foot coax with a 25 foot coax between the balun and transceiver. In this config my Icom 703Plus tunes all bands at near SWR 1.0 and forward power is exactly at what is set. The 703Plus works like a champ and even better in this config. Now the Elecraft KX1 has high SWR r9.9 on 80, 40, 30 and reads between r3-r5?? on 20M with respectable power levels on all bands. I would have thought the KX1 to perform better as well? Now the 703 is perfect and the KX1 is down on all 4 bands? Could someone help me understand why this might now be? I realize the KX1 tuner is smaller capacity than the Icom internal tuner - but this antenna configuration is quite respectable. I read many anecdotes of the sorts of "I threw a wire up in a tree with my KX1 and it tunes and works lots and lots of countries." This isn't exactly throwing a wire in a tree but a fairly standard antenna setup. Is there not enough overall power from the KX1? I put a call into Elecraft before/at the holiday and they are getting an answer for me on my previous question as to how to get the KX1 to send a continuous wave when the KXAT1 is in bypass for the external tuner. It appears to me that it sends dits or dahs when ATU is set to external tuner ATU == CAL. I would try to study the situation more with the THP HC200-AT autotuner but I'm unclear at the moment what the theory/design is with the KXAT1 in bypass mode. I thank you for your advice and thoughts in advance. Dan Ad1p __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Hi Q versus Vertical
Hi Frank, As mentioned elsewhere, radials are key to good performance. Verticals will work, and sometimes not badly either, with less than optimum radials. The key is high density under the feed point. Flashing may be a good option, a metal roof would be great. That being said, I know a lot of folks who love the SteppIr vertical. It probably is a good antenna for 40-6. Any base fed vertical will be less efficient than one with a top hat or inductor, at least half way up (preferably higher). Probably the best question is what do you expect the antenna to do? Be competitive in pileups? Work tons of DX? Local ragchewing? Just CW or SSB or both? The answers will help you focus on a specific antenna better. For the money a Hustler 6 BTV Antenna is a good place to start. It's a bit narrow on 80/75, but you can find out how well a vertical will work for you, then consider something like a SteppIr. That's assuming you don't want to build your own, which can be virtually free if you're a decent scrounger. 73, Julius Frank MacDonell wrote: > > I am looking for an antenna to work 6 thru 80 meters in a condo > development. I presently own a k3/10. > > Stealth is a very strong consideration. It seems that a SteppIR > Vertical or Hi Q antenna would make sense. Does anyone have experience > with these two antennas for this type of application? Thanks you for > your time and expertise. > > -- > Frank KD8FIP > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Hi-Q-versus-Vertical-tp4246657p4250557.html Sent from the [HAM] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 Toroid Wire Coating
For my first several toroid windings, I have used a Bic lighter flame to burn off the coating on the wire tails, followed by a sanding with the supplied P180 sandpaper. I noticed it can burn up the wire fast and one of them lost the coating up to the core. Should I recoat, especially where the lead may touch the wound toroid, like the horizontal RFC11? What is a suitable recoat for the wire? Or am I being too picky? Bob, KE5WZK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 for sale
Gilbert Cross wrote: > Gilbert Cross wrote: >> K2 s/n 3346 >> >> Has the following options: >> >> KIO2 >> KAT2 >> KSB2 >> K160RX >> KNB2 >> KAF2 >> MH2 >> CW tuning indicator >> T/R relay driver switching is with the same mosfet used in >> the K3 >> >> Frequency calibration is excellent >> Filters are set up using Spectrogram and with the wife >> monitoring through headphones she says I sound natural >> Very nice radio. Of course comes with all manuals and cables >> Ready to operate >> >> Asking$900.00 >> If interested please contact me off list. >> >> Thank youGilK8EAG >> > > __ > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [MM] W2 Wattmeter
Thank you for the advice and wisdom always found on this Reflector. We can each draw our own conclusions. The K-2 built in meter is probably as accurate as the W2 at 5 watts, and the more expensive stand alone units have little to offer me operating QRP. Those flashing lights are cool on many of the latest meters, but the absence of increased accuracy over what comes with the radio anyway is more important. The expertise available on this Reflector is unmatched in the hobby. KM4VX wrote: > > W2 WATTMETER I was doing some research and considering buying the Elecraft > W2 for use with my 2 K-2s and read the very negative reviews of the W2's > accuracy on E-Ham. I wonder if anyone would care to refute the E-HAM > reviews or offer positive comments about the W2's accuracy. At this point > I would have to choose the AUTEK or OAK HILLS meters over the W2. > Considering the cost of the W2 and Elecraft's attention to quality I would > expect a far more accurate meter than the reviews would indicate. Many > thanks. > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/W2-Wattmeter-tp4242517p4249788.html Sent from the [MM] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Back Panel Phones Jack... my solution...
Tom Hammond-2 wrote: > > The TIP & GND of the K3 PLUG connects to the LEFT spkr, and the RING & GND > connect to the RIGHT spkr. But the RINGs on BOTH of the INPUT jacks are > not > connected to anything. > > Tom et al. You are right. I was only thinking of how to avoid the hassle of threading the speakers through the cables. To use the ready-made adapter you'd also have to snip the mono plugs off the speaker cables and replace them with stereo plugs, one wired to the tip and the other the ring. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Back-Panel-Phones-Jack-my-solution-tp4247468p4249199.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html