[Elecraft] RTTY operation with Terminal in Utility
I'd seen comments about the inability of uploading the K3 firmware through the P3's RS-232 connection and I knew that the instructions, until the P3 firmware is updated, was to turn off the P3 while loading the K3. I had not seen any comments about a problem using the K3 Utility program to run the Terminal program on RTTY but I discovered that in order to use the RTTY terminal section, and probably the CW and PSK31 decode feature too, was to turn off the P3. Once it's off, the Terminal program comes back to life. I'm looking forward to a P3 firmware update when it becomes more transparent to the information flowing to and from the K3 through the P3. Also I'll put in another plug for updating the K3 Utility program so it can share a virtual serial port through LP-Bridge (for the Terminal) while the K3 can continue to talk to the computer for the Logger32 logging program. Thanks for everything and 73, Jim - K5LAD Growing old is like being increasingly penalized for a crime you haven't committed. -- Anthony Powell - Visit my webpages at: http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] RTTY operation with Terminal in Utility
The K3 Utility currenly uses the text-to-terminal capability of the K3 for its terminal program. Currently the P3 doesn't forward this information to the PC host. I've started an effort to exploit a new K3 MCU command, TB, designed for programs like this. It's going to be a few weeks more because of a vacation, but an update that provides terminal support concurrently with P3 operation is planned. It will be a K3 Utility update rather than a P3 update. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of jpk5...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:11 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY operation with Terminal in Utility I'd seen comments about the inability of uploading the K3 firmware through the P3's RS-232 connection and I knew that the instructions, until the P3 firmware is updated, was to turn off the P3 while loading the K3. I had not seen any comments about a problem using the K3 Utility program to run the Terminal program on RTTY but I discovered that in order to use the RTTY terminal section, and probably the CW and PSK31 decode feature too, was to turn off the P3. Once it's off, the Terminal program comes back to life. I'm looking forward to a P3 firmware update when it becomes more transparent to the information flowing to and from the K3 through the P3. Also I'll put in another plug for updating the K3 Utility program so it can share a virtual serial port through LP-Bridge (for the Terminal) while the K3 can continue to talk to the computer for the Logger32 logging program. Thanks for everything and 73, Jim - K5LAD Growing old is like being increasingly penalized for a crime you haven't committed. -- Anthony Powell - Visit my webpages at: http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] RTTY operation with Terminal in Utility
OK Dick -- Sounds great thanks. I just thought I'd mention it now just in case someone wanted to dip their toe into the RTTY waters for this weekend's RTTY contest and planned to use the Terminal program in the Utility program. It surprised me, at first, when I couldn't decode on the Terminal program now when I had done it in the past. The P3 is new to me, however, and it took me a while to figure out what had changed. Thanks again, Jim - K5LAD BTW - I was playing around with RTTY decoding with MMTTY software and the K3 was doing a noticeably better job than was the MMTTY program copying RTTY off the air. It surprised me, but then, I guess it really shouldn't have. The K3 Utility currenly uses the text-to-terminal capability of the K3 for its terminal program. Currently the P3 doesn't forward this information to the PC host. I've started an effort to exploit a new K3 MCU command, TB, designed for programs like this. It's going to be a few weeks more because of a vacation, but an update that provides terminal support concurrently with P3 operation is planned. It will be a K3 Utility update rather than a P3 update. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of jpk5...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:11 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY operation with Terminal in Utility I'd seen comments about the inability of uploading the K3 firmware through the P3's RS-232 connection and I knew that the instructions, until the P3 firmware is updated, was to turn off the P3 while loading the K3. I had not seen any comments about a problem using the K3 Utility program to run the Terminal program on RTTY but I discovered that in order to use the RTTY terminal section, and probably the CW and PSK31 decode feature too, was to turn off the P3. Once it's off, the Terminal program comes back to life. I'm looking forward to a P3 firmware update when it becomes more transparent to the information flowing to and from the K3 through the P3. Also I'll put in another plug for updating the K3 Utility program so it can share a virtual serial port through LP-Bridge (for the Terminal) while the K3 can continue to talk to the computer for the Logger32 logging program. Thanks for everything and 73, Jim - K5LAD Growing old is like being increasingly penalized for a crime you haven't committed. -- Anthony Powell - Visit my webpages at: http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html === Life is like a football --- It ain't round ... It'll bounce funny on ya. http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3} Firmware version 4.12 with K144XV query
Hi, I was wondering, has anyone else played with firmware 4.12 on a K3 with the K144XV installed on 2M? My local 2M repeater here in usually (on several other radios) S9+40db or more (AKA Full Scale) and on my K3 with firmware 4.05 it was S9+10db. With firmware 4.12 it is now S4! I have recently replaced a faulty K144XV unit in my radio so do I need to redo the RF Gain Calibration to suit it? Any advice would be most welcome because at this stage of the game I am regretting my purchase of an Elecraft K3 and I'm getting pretty close to junking the whole damned radio it has gotten me that frustrated with it. Jeff Cochrane VK4BOF East Innisfail QLD Australia __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Independent Mic.gainsquelch control K144XV
Dear Elecrafts, I would like to see the option to K3 independent MIC.Gain control and Squelch using the K144XV , if I left out a lesson in K3 manual I deeply apologize... regards, E72X - Gordan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Firmware version 4.12 with K144XV query
Jeff - If you look at the release notes for firmware 4.12 you'll see that it includes... * K144XV S-METER CORRECTION: The S-meter is now properly compensated for the added gain of the K144XV. With earlier firmware the S-meter was reading far too high and in my case it brings it more into line with other transceivers. Maybe the S-meters of your other 'radios' are reading too high. I think it would be wise to do an RF Calibration now you have your new K144XV. 73 David G4DMP In a recent message, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com wrote ... I was wondering, has anyone else played with firmware 4.12 on a K3 with the K144XV installed on 2M? My local 2M repeater here in usually (on several other radios) S9+40db or more (AKA Full Scale) and on my K3 with firmware 4.05 it was S9+10db. With firmware 4.12 it is now S4! -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] RTTY operation with Terminal in Utility
Currently, LP_Bridge blocks the K3 Utility because of potential problems with K3 commands that have been removed from the current K3 Utility. According to Larry Phipps, LP_Bridge will be changed to allow the K3 Utility to be used with LP_Bridge but, AFAIK, this hasn't been done yet. Dunc, W5DC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] RTTY operation with Terminal in Utility
I have a version of KComm that uses the DB command, though I have no idea if it works through a P3 because I don't have a P3. I have pretty much lost all interest in the software development aspect of the hobby though I haven't completely given up on KComm as I still use it myself. However there are still several things outstanding to do before I go to all the trouble of updating the documentation, building an installer and officially releasing a new and hopefully final version and at the current rate of progress this might take a few more months. I did put an interim version that supports the DB command on the website for someone who asked, but it is only available as a zip file that you must install yourself: http://www.g4ilo.com/files/kcomm.zip . - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/RTTY-operation-with-Terminal-in-Utility-tp5565640p5566280.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] FSK power
I normally run 50W in CW or any digi mode, because I feel more comfortable running well within the ratings, but I will always crank it up to 100W when needed. In a contest, you're listening half the time anyway, so 50% duty cycle and the K3 will take it even at 100W output. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/FSK-power-tp5563724p5566317.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] FSK power
Hi Ray, Actual on the air results lead me to completely disagree with your statement. With my old rig I ran at half power on RTTY. During contests if I could not get a response from the other station by the second call I would just twist the power knob to full and 90% of the time I would get the contact. The benefit of that one single S unit was repeatedly proven to be all that I needed. 73, Mike K2MK Ray Sills wrote: The difference in power between 50 watts and 100 watts is essentially insignificant. If you can't work 'em at 50 watts with the antenna you have... 100 watts ain't gonna make the difference. Period. 500 watts... 1KW.. OK.. maybe that'll help. Just because the rig can take it... the extra power and dissipated heat is just wasted. My opinion. 73 de Ray K2ULR FN20kg Warrington, PA -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/FSK-power-tp5563724p5566418.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] FSK power
I really thought that someone else would have picked up on this, but since I haven't seen it yet, here goes. One post indicated that moving from 50 to 100 watts was doesn't matter but that going from 500 to 1kw, well, OK. Hey, both are 3db and the relative change in power for either will be identicalsame as going from 2 watts to 4 watts (that's more within my domain). Practically speaking, if the bands are good and you're not in a pile-up situation, and your signal is not just at the noise level, then yes, 3db wont matter. During a contest, where you're all on the same QRG, as is the case in RY, louder is better. de Doug KR2Q __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Steppir antenna
Rich, If you connect a cable from the K3 to the SteppIR controller, it will follow the radio. The simple way is to order the cable from SteppIR. It will have a computer connector on it, but it doesn't have to be attached to your computer. There is also a schematic on the SteppIP site if you want to build one your self. 73, Mike NF4L On 9/23/2010 7:51 PM, Richard Haendel wrote: I have a K3 and would like to control the Steppir band and frequency segment selection via the Steppir data port. I am confused as to what is needed. I do not have a computer attached to the K3 nor the Steppir. Any advice as to what to do? Thanks Rich W3ACO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Duration of button press 'beep' varies
I suspect I have. Several times I was caught off guard by what I was hearing and I believe it was a longer tone from the confirmation beep. I think it was when toggling back and forth between CW-nor and CW-rev for zero beating (SPOT doesn't get close enough for me most of the time) so I was confused between the toggling tones of the incoming signal and the unexpected behavior of the confirmation beep. Since then I have turned off the beep. Chuck, W5UXH Andrew Moore-3 wrote: On my K3/100, firmware 4.05, I've noticed some odd behavior with the audio confirmation beeps depending on how long I hold or tap a button. .. Has anyone else noticed it? --Andrew, NV1B -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Duration-of-button-press-beep-varies-tp5565457p5566918.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Duration of button press 'beep' varies
I use an old windows utility named TUNEWIN. I run LINE OUT to my PC sound card and configure TUNEWIN so it is very small in physical size (so it doesn't interfere with my logging or contesting program monitor space) and you can customize it's audio Fc and audio BW to whatever sidetone frequency you desire. With this I can exactly zero beat a QSO and I have been using this utility for several years. I have found that CWT, when a signal is tuned correctly, will agree exactly with what is showing in TUNEWIN and (almost) exactly with what is being displayed on my P3 with the SPAN set to +/- 5kc. Since the minimum CW bandwidth can be set only as narrow as 50 cycles, I think the CWT zero beat accuracy is certainly what is called 'good enough for government work'! Tom - W4BQF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W5UXH Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Duration of button press 'beep' varies I suspect I have. Several times I was caught off guard by what I was hearing and I believe it was a longer tone from the confirmation beep. I think it was when toggling back and forth between CW-nor and CW-rev for zero beating (SPOT doesn't get close enough for me most of the time) so I was confused between the toggling tones of the incoming signal and the unexpected behavior of the confirmation beep. Since then I have turned off the beep. Chuck, W5UXH Andrew Moore-3 wrote: On my K3/100, firmware 4.05, I've noticed some odd behavior with the audio confirmation beeps depending on how long I hold or tap a button. .. Has anyone else noticed it? --Andrew, NV1B -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Duration-of-button-press-beep-varies -tp5565457p5566918.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] RTTY operation with Terminal in Utility
Hi Dunc -- Yeah, I'm well aware of that. I've been in communication with both Dick and Larry concerning this and they both say it was done to not allow collisions of data (in firmware uploads) but they also both agree that what I want to do will not cause a problem. They have limited my request which is possible and would not cause a problem, to keep from opening things up to cause others problems in the firmware uploads. They are working on the situation and will eventually have a solution, it just hasn't appeared yet. That was why I said put in another plug for it. I'm 'a waitin' 73, Jim - K5LAD On 24 Sep 2010 at 2:35, Duncan Carter wrote: Currently, LP_Bridge blocks the K3 Utility because of potential problems with K3 commands that have been removed from the current K3 Utility. According to Larry Phipps, LP_Bridge will be changed to allow the K3 Utility to be used with LP_Bridge but, AFAIK, this hasn't been done yet. Dunc, W5DC === = Growing old is like being increasingly penalized for a crime you haven't committed. -- Anthony Powell - Visit my webpages at: http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/ === = __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] FSK power
Here is a copy of a posting I made on 20090312: Here is a copy of a posting I made on 20090312: I did an experiment on my two K3's - key down at 100 watts for four minutes while noting PA Temp and fan speed. Both K3's behaved identically and both leveled off at PA Temp = 64C after about 3 minutes. For the record, here are the results (best viewed with Courier font): Time Temp Fan 0:0026C 0 0:26371 0:44412 1:19503 1:45554 2:40604 2:50624 3:15644 4:00644 Room temp was 77F. According to the manual, the PA is set to drop into bypass at 84C, so it didn't even come close. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Price increase
I have just sold my boat and plan to order a K3. When does the Elecraft price increase go into effect or, has it already been implemented? 73 Stew ke4yh __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 serial # 2674
K3/100 for Sale, s/n 2674, perfect! This is Serial 2674, purchased February 17, 2009. This radio was assembled from a kit and is in excellent shape. There are no known problems with the radio. It has been kept in a non-smoking environment and has seen very light use. It has had all updates as of February 2010, and a revision D DSP board. I am selling the radio as it is a spare that is getting no use. I would be happy to demonstrate the radio or have it checked otherwise. This K3 includes: - 100 Watt Amplifier - KRX3 Sub (second) receiver - KBPF3 General Coverage Receiver Module - KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder - KXV3 Transverter Interface - Full set of optional 8 pole filters (ten) for both receivers including FM-Bandwidth, 6.0 kHz, 2.8 kHz, 2.1kHz and 400 Hz. All manuals and paperwork included with radio Price is $3200, including insured shipping to lower 48 states, which is more than $1000 off of current kit price. “Nifty mini manual for the K3 included. I am located in southern RI, and again I am open to demonstration/review of the radio. Email me at:bb @ brucebeard . com -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-serial-2674-tp5567707p5567707.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] RTTY IN K3 TERMINAL PROGRAM
I have just begun playing with the RTTY mode. I am limited thus far to using the K3 Utility Program for typing my transmitted message, either free form or Memory. I know I can use a CW keyer, but don't wish to; I'd rather use the keyboard. What I am finding disconcerting is the inability to keep the carrier on while I am typing a response. Whenever the buffer is emptied, the carrier turns off, and anything I type is not transmitted past that point. I did read the Help menu and the Terminal Program is acting exactly as described. Is there someway to keep the carrier on? I tried pressing the XMIT button on the K3, and it turns on the carrier but doesn't allow any text from the buffer to be sent. I can accept it not being possible, but not finding it is possible when I didn't bother to ask. Please note I am aware of the multitude of computer based programs to run RTTY. I am just trying to answer this question as it relates directly to the K3 Utility Terminal Program. Tnx de K4SC -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/RTTY-IN-K3-TERMINAL-PROGRAM-tp5567841p5567841.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] RTTY IN K3 TERMINAL PROGRAM
I'm with Charles on this request. By simply adding the option for diddles on (ltrs or blanks, your choice), you can do what he asks. That keeps feeding either letters or blanks as long as there is no input from the keyboard and keeps things keyed. It HAS to be a simple move and would add value to the terminal program for RTTY chats. Also, if possible, I would like to see an option to choose character out (what I see as default now), word out (to allow those lousy typists like me to correct a word before it goes out), and line out (for those wanting to go back further than one word to make corrections before they go out). Also, that would seem to be simple as you only need to recognize the space bar for word out, and end of line functions for line out. At some point, it would be nice to be able to set line length in configuration or somewhere so our friends still using machines (and there are SEVERAL who do for the fun of it) can put up with us, hi. These simple changes would make the terminal program serve 99.9% of my RTTY needs and I, like Charles, know all about MMTTY and I still have my old HAL gear. This would just be what I would like to use most of the time, a SIMPLE terminal program. A bonus is it won't hurt the contesters' usage at all, hi. Thanks for the consideration, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 serial # 2674 SOLD! pending fund transfer
Radio is sold pending transfer of funds! Thanks -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-serial-2674-tp5567707p5568173.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Audio I/O Daughter Board
I am really enjoying my new K3/100 (#4629) . It worked perfectly on completion from the kit earlier this month. Today I noticed the Audio I/O daughter board E850236 does have some vertical play in the rear panel after mic and earphone plugs are inserted and there is additional leverage from the plug bodies themselves. It looks like this would be normal since I see no rear securing hardware for the installed board. Is that right? The digital I/O board is, of course secured by the RS-232 connectors to the back panel. maybe some short plastic sleeves around the jacks would help. Thought I remember seeing something about this but I didn't find anything in the reflector archives, but maybe I didn't search for the right terms. Roger Gagos, K6EQ Escondido, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2: Controlling an external amp and tuner
I'm nearing the completion of my K2 (#6991); I finished phase 2 of the RF board this week, completed the alignment, and last night I was able to hear some CW on 40m with just 10' of speaker wire as an antenna. Hopefully I've have it completely done in the next 1-2 weeks. I'm already thinking about some possible improvements. I have an external tuner and an external amp. I built an RF sense switch for the amp which will key it when I'm transmitting, but I still have to manually change bands on it. This was fine for my first rig, a 40m-only QRP transceiver. But it would be cool if each time I used the Band + and Band - buttons on the K2, it changed the band setting on the amp. The amp has an input for this, I would just need to build something that can trigger it. The question is, how would I trigger this from the K2? What's the best way to capture the band change events? Use the serial interface? Hard-wire something to the band change buttons? The tuner might be simpler or might not be. Is there any way I can use the Tune button on the front panel to control an external tuner? Thanks in advance for any insights! -- Owen B. Mehegan (o...@nerdnetworks.org) He is a dangerous mixture of sophistication and recklessness which makes one anxious about his influence on other boys. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2: Controlling an external amp and tuner
Owen, The easiest solution to band data outputs for the K2 is to add the KRC2 - it is a very versatile box and will do what you are seeking and more. Some hardware added to the BAND+/BAND- buttons on the K2 may be possible, but be careful, the buttons are scanned as a matrix by the K2 MCU, so it may take more than just hard-wiring to the button contacts to accomplish that feat, and you would have to assure that whatever you added would not impact the band changing operation on the K2 itself. Besides, it can get out of sync by using Direct Frequency Entry, so the most reliable is to use the KRC2 outputs. To key your amplifier, I would suggest you look at the AMP KEYING Circuit on the Elecraft website (the board is now supplied by Tom Hammond N0SS - look also on his website www.n0ss.net). If you have the KPA100, it has an amp keying circuit built-in. My problem with the RF sensed switch is that it is a sure recipe for hot switching the amplifier - by the time RF is present at the input, the output of the amp should already have been connected to the antenna IMHO. Without the KAT2 (or KAT100) installed, the TUNE button will provide a steady carrier that you can use to tune a manual tuner or trigger the RF sensing in an auto-tuner. That is what it does. With the KPA100 installed, the action is the same, but the power is limited to 20 watts. If your amp produces less than 150 watts, you might consider the KAT100 instead of your present tuner. Switch the amp out of the circuit during a TUNE and the KAT100 will match the antenna to a 50 ohm input - then switch in the amplifier and operate. The KAT100 has a wide matching range. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/24/2010 6:12 PM, Owen B. Mehegan wrote: I'm nearing the completion of my K2 (#6991); I finished phase 2 of the RF board this week, completed the alignment, and last night I was able to hear some CW on 40m with just 10' of speaker wire as an antenna. Hopefully I've have it completely done in the next 1-2 weeks. I'm already thinking about some possible improvements. I have an external tuner and an external amp. I built an RF sense switch for the amp which will key it when I'm transmitting, but I still have to manually change bands on it. This was fine for my first rig, a 40m-only QRP transceiver. But it would be cool if each time I used the Band + and Band - buttons on the K2, it changed the band setting on the amp. The amp has an input for this, I would just need to build something that can trigger it. The question is, how would I trigger this from the K2? What's the best way to capture the band change events? Use the serial interface? Hard-wire something to the band change buttons? The tuner might be simpler or might not be. Is there any way I can use the Tune button on the front panel to control an external tuner? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] TenTec Hamfest
Any other Elecrafters going to the TT hamfest tomorrow? Steve N4LQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] AFSK and roofing filters
OK, this happens every time I set up my K3 for RTTY [CQ WW RTTY], even though I've got two pages of stuff written in my station journal, it still takes me a couple of hours to get it all right. I'm in DATA AFSK A. Everything seems to finally be working. However, it is stuck in FL1 which is the SSB filter. If I tap XFIL, the DSP BW opens up to SSB width. When I reduce the DSP BW to 400 Hz, that happens, but strong stations just out of my passband still activate the AGC. If I tap XFIL again, everything goes back to SSB BW. I confess, I really don't understand the K3's data modes very well ... OK, at all. Any help would be appreciated. I will be very much part time in the contest so I'm not tearing out what little hair I have left to get it fixed before Z, I'd just like to select the 500 Hz roofer. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Help with RTTY
I've not done much in the way of RTTY but thought I'd get on for CQWW this weekend and work a few guys with the built in data capability in the K3. Try as I might, I can't get it to decode anything correctly. I seem to have lackluster results getting stuff to display on the VFOB area of the screen with any kind of consistency and I just don't know what's wrong. Does anyone have a RTTY with the K3 for dummies? I don't really want to go off and install any RTTY software, would just like to use the built in K3 stuff to make a few QSOs. Thanks, unicast to me is fine. Jeff __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AFSK and roofing filters
On 9/24/2010 4:59 PM, JAMES ROGERS wrote: Here is what I think might be going on Fred. You have to set the roofing filters ON for each mode in which they may be used. It sounds like you have them setup for SSB but not for the modes you are using for RTTY. The easiest way to do that is with the K3 Utility and the Crystal Filter Configuration or you can do it via the menus. For instance: In CW I have my 2.8, 1.0 and, 0.400 configured. In USB and LSB I have only my 2.8 configured. In DATA I have my 2.8, 1.0 and, 0.400 configured. The rest of the modes, only the 2.8 is configured. I hope this helps. After setting them up, turn the radio off and back on for the changes to take place. Thank you Jim, that was the problem. I turned FL2 on for DATA and now it stays on as long as my DSP BW is less than .5 KHz. Thanks JEFF: If you see this, post a quick note to me. I'll check in a bit, and if I don't see it, I'll answer you direct. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Help with RTTY
Jeff, If you are not accustomed to RTTY (or other digital modes) operation, I would encourage you to use a computer application to start out with. Clicking on the waterfall display to decode signals is much easier than tuning the signal to a spot which will allow good decoding in the K3 VFO B area (or using K3 Utility Terminal - same thing). Once you have developed a feel for the RTTY mode, then you can advance to using the K3 Utility or the K3 VFO B area for decoding. If you insist on using the VFO B display or K3 Utility, set the AFSK-A (or FSK-D) menu parameter to the baud rate of the station you are trying to copy (it will usually be 45 bps), then use the dual passband to reject unwanted signals - tune the K3 carefully using CWT so you see 3 bars on each side of the center marker. You should then see good decoded text. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/24/2010 8:13 PM, Jeff Kinzli N6GQ wrote: I've not done much in the way of RTTY but thought I'd get on for CQWW this weekend and work a few guys with the built in data capability in the K3. Try as I might, I can't get it to decode anything correctly. I seem to have lackluster results getting stuff to display on the VFOB area of the screen with any kind of consistency and I just don't know what's wrong. Does anyone have a RTTY with the K3 for dummies? I don't really want to go off and install any RTTY software, would just like to use the built in K3 stuff to make a few QSOs. Thanks, unicast to me is fine. Jeff __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Help with RTTY
Jeff, I strongly agree with Don. MMTTY integrates VERY nicely with both WriteLog and N1MM. I use N1MM. You're welcome to come up here and see it this weekend. I'm not taking it seriously, but I will get on and play a bit. 73, Jim K9YC On 9/24/2010 5:40 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Jeff, If you are not accustomed to RTTY (or other digital modes) operation, I would encourage you to use a computer application to start out with. Clicking on the waterfall display to decode signals is much easier than tuning the signal to a spot which will allow good decoding in the K3 VFO B area (or using K3 Utility Terminal - same thing). Once you have developed a feel for the RTTY mode, then you can advance to using the K3 Utility or the K3 VFO B area for decoding. If you insist on using the VFO B display or K3 Utility, set the AFSK-A (or FSK-D) menu parameter to the baud rate of the station you are trying to copy (it will usually be 45 bps), then use the dual passband to reject unwanted signals - tune the K3 carefully using CWT so you see 3 bars on each side of the center marker. You should then see good decoded text. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Climbing a BIG radio tower
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Re: [Elecraft] Help with RTTY
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 18:10, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: Jeff, I strongly agree with Don. MMTTY integrates VERY nicely with both WriteLog and N1MM. I use N1MM. You're welcome to come up here and see it this weekend. I'm not taking it seriously, but I will get on and play a bit. Jim and Don, thanks for the input. I think I got it working sort of, enough to make a few QSOs. Jim, I may take you up on that...I'll be in touch if I can make it up. Thanks! Jeff 73, Jim K9YC On 9/24/2010 5:40 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Jeff, If you are not accustomed to RTTY (or other digital modes) operation, I would encourage you to use a computer application to start out with. Clicking on the waterfall display to decode signals is much easier than tuning the signal to a spot which will allow good decoding in the K3 VFO B area (or using K3 Utility Terminal - same thing). Once you have developed a feel for the RTTY mode, then you can advance to using the K3 Utility or the K3 VFO B area for decoding. If you insist on using the VFO B display or K3 Utility, set the AFSK-A (or FSK-D) menu parameter to the baud rate of the station you are trying to copy (it will usually be 45 bps), then use the dual passband to reject unwanted signals - tune the K3 carefully using CWT so you see 3 bars on each side of the center marker. You should then see good decoded text. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] RF Gain Calibration Error
I was going through the RF gain calibration procedure using V1.2.8.25 and XG2 on 40m. Main receiver seemed to go OK but when switching to sub I got a HUGE blast in the left ear piece. I continued anyway and got the following error: RFG Calibration Error DSP Command response did not arrive. MCU 4.12 FPF 1.13 DSP1/2 2.6 left ear still ringing... Anyone else see this? jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] RF Gain Calibration Error
Please use the current K3 Utility version. It fixes the no response issue. Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote: I was going through the RF gain calibration procedure using V1.2.8.25 and XG2 on 40m. Main receiver seemed to go OK but when switching to sub I got a HUGE blast in the left ear piece. I continued anyway and got the following error: RFG Calibration Error DSP Command response did not arrive. MCU 4.12 FPF 1.13 DSP1/2 2.6 left ear still ringing... Anyone else see this? jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
