Re: [Elecraft] FS: Elecraft XV144 2 m transverter with XVOVN crystal oven
XV144 has been sold. Op 17-4-2013 19:41, Henk PA5KT schreef: Decided to sell my Elecraft XV144 transverter with crystal oven XVOVN. In new condition. Barely used. (I use my internal K3 transverter). Configured for seperate TX/RX antenna connectors. Asking euro 250,-. Worldwide shipping euro 25,- Paypal accepted. See Elecraft website for more info. http://www.elecraft.com/XV/XV.htm. 73 Henk PA5KT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Noise when plugging kx3 into computer
I have been able to kill my computer noise to my K3 by putting a USB hub between my computer and the USB to serial converter to my K3. It is worth a try as the hub was cheap and I discovered it by accident. 73 and good luck Ken W0CZ Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: You said 'everything is grounded' -- but does that include the computer? Laptops may be difficult to ground because of plastic cases, but perhaps a screw somewhere in the enclosure can provide a grounding point. The key is not necessarily 'grounding', but instead bonding all components (including the computer) with large diameter wire or braid to keep everything at the same potential. Plugging the computer as well as the ham gear into the same AC receptacle is a potential assist to the situation, but as you have observed, it is not a total cure. Check the RFI information provided by K9YC at http://www.audiosystemsgroup.com/K9YC/K9YC.htm, it is an excellent resource for such problems. You could try using the 8 kHz RX shift on the KX3 to see if that helps - again, not the 'cure' but it can assist. Replacing the computer (or its power supply) may be the only alternative to truely 'fixing' this problem. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/18/2013 5:33 PM, AB1SX wrote: Never noticed it because while setting up the kx3 I was also setting everything up on my computer. I am a new ham and was getting the logging software etc all set up. I recently was using the kx3 without the computer plugged in and the computer was on the other side of the room. I had very little background noise on the kx3. I finished up what I was doing on the computer and brought it back to the kx3 (computer was still on) and I started getting back ground noise, when I plugged it in the noise even got louder? I then took the computer away from the area and the noise disappeared again? What's up with that? Everything is grounded. Could it be because I am plugging the lap top into the same plug outlet as my remote power? The KX3 is set up as a base station in the house, remote power source, kx3, antenna tuner and 150 watt amp. Is there a way I can stop that noise through filters on the kx3? Suggestions would be apprciated. AB1SX -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Noise-when-plugging-kx3-into-computer-tp7572783.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Noise when plugging kx3 into computer
Interesting I did the same thing with my KX3 when I took it out on my rear deck and hooked it to my laptop. The first time I had noise also the second time I wanted to hook up another item and used the hub, surprise no noise. At the time I thought it was just a fluke or was a onetime thing, I guess not. 73, Fred/N0AZZ K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100 P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kenneth A Christiansen Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 7:34 AM To: d...@w3fpr.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise when plugging kx3 into computer I have been able to kill my computer noise to my K3 by putting a USB hub between my computer and the USB to serial converter to my K3. It is worth a try as the hub was cheap and I discovered it by accident. 73 and good luck Ken W0CZ Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: You said 'everything is grounded' -- but does that include the computer? Laptops may be difficult to ground because of plastic cases, but perhaps a screw somewhere in the enclosure can provide a grounding point. The key is not necessarily 'grounding', but instead bonding all components (including the computer) with large diameter wire or braid to keep everything at the same potential. Plugging the computer as well as the ham gear into the same AC receptacle is a potential assist to the situation, but as you have observed, it is not a total cure. Check the RFI information provided by K9YC at http://www.audiosystemsgroup.com/K9YC/K9YC.htm, it is an excellent resource for such problems. You could try using the 8 kHz RX shift on the KX3 to see if that helps - again, not the 'cure' but it can assist. Replacing the computer (or its power supply) may be the only alternative to truely 'fixing' this problem. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/18/2013 5:33 PM, AB1SX wrote: Never noticed it because while setting up the kx3 I was also setting everything up on my computer. I am a new ham and was getting the logging software etc all set up. I recently was using the kx3 without the computer plugged in and the computer was on the other side of the room. I had very little background noise on the kx3. I finished up what I was doing on the computer and brought it back to the kx3 (computer was still on) and I started getting back ground noise, when I plugged it in the noise even got louder? I then took the computer away from the area and the noise disappeared again? What's up with that? Everything is grounded. Could it be because I am plugging the lap top into the same plug outlet as my remote power? The KX3 is set up as a base station in the house, remote power source, kx3, antenna tuner and 150 watt amp. Is there a way I can stop that noise through filters on the kx3? Suggestions would be apprciated. AB1SX -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Noise-when-plugging-kx3-into-com puter-tp7572783.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3162/6253 - Release Date: 04/18/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3162/6253 - Release Date: 04/18/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Solar Power for KX3
Panels are rated for a standard sun (1000 W/m^2 insolation) at I think 25C. This is for the maximum power point, which is almost never the voltage to charge the battery at. The ones I've played with (powerfilm 5W, HQRP 20W) do more or less make their rated power in full sun (really blue sky), and 5-20% of that in clouds. I have a 20W panel with not particularly good siting that gets sun from about 1030 to about 1600. I have seen 1.3A from it, charging a 12V AGM battery with a simple on/off controller (brunton). Over the last 2 months I have gotten an average of just over 3 Ah per day. On really sunny days I get 7Ah. So a solar setup really needs enough batteries to run for most of a week (at least in New England), and enough panel to recharge if you have 1.5 sunny days in that week. So for a fixed installation take daily use in Ah multiply by about 15 (1 week, don't discharge more than half) to get battery capacity take daily use in Ah, multiply by 2h of average good sun per day, and find a panel that can produce that current in full sun. All that said, I have taken a single 7Ah battery and the 20W panel with charge controller, and found that in mostly sunny conditions that powers a kx3 indefinitely just fine. Do not even think of using a panel without a charge controller. You will end up with excessive voltage and fry the battery. 73 de n1dam __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Solar Power for KX3
I suspect you're going to have to reinvent at least some of the wheel. I have a 10-watt panel I got several years ago and have used to power a K2 at several Field Days. It generates 0.5 amps at up to 20 volts in strong sunlight. Lower light intensity reduces the voltage but the amps stay constant. I run it into a charge controller (a kit from someone on this list), then a gel-cell battery in parallel with the K2. Running overnight, not very intensely, the battery is fully charged again at the end of FD. Lead batteries are very robust about charging, and I don't know if the controller in the KX3 can accept this kind of wide-ranging power. My panel is small and light, and is mounted in a nylon cover with a zipper -- it's two panels which fold up. It was about $100 -- cheap at the time. Looking around the web, there are folding amorphous silicon panels for backpacking, for a lot of money, and larger, cheaper, heavier panels from places like Home Depot and Northern Tools. Kits are available. You'll need a silicon panel, a reverse-voltage protection diode, and some kind of charge controller if the KX3 doesn't already do that. I'd like to hear about your results. Peter W0LLN On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, jimk...@aol.com wrote: Rather than reinvent the wheel, does anybody have experience or suggestions for a small solar array sufficient to keep a KX3 with internal batteries going during daylight? I would assume 10 watts average over a reasonable TX duty cycle would be enough.? Something strong enough or flexible enough to withstand packing for air travel would be desirable. 73?? -? Jim?? K8MR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] L5 33 UH RF Choke
Hi I've noticed that the 33 UH RF Choke (L5) is missing from my K2 Kit, can I just replace with a standard 33UH choke from here in the UK? Many Thanks Richard M0AUW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/L5-33-UH-RF-Choke-tp7572796.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Solar Power for KX3
From personal experience with the KX3 and solar panels, a 10 watt panel simply won't keep up. A 20 watt panel is fine on a bright sunny day if you shift its position and angle several times during the day. But I now use a 30 watt folding panel which has been adequate even on slightly overcast days to keep the battery fully charged, and I don't have to worry about moving it around all the time (I can just lay it flat on the ground rather than trying to match the exact sun angle). Of course if it was black-sky stormy, don't expect to keep up, and if it is winter time, lying it flat on the ground isn't a good choice given the low sun angles. I've run the KX3 in contest mode for several long contests and the average current draw over the entire contest has bee 300 mA (for 5 watts output). Bumping the power up to 10 watts brings that average drain to about 400 mA. 73, Bob, WB4SON __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KIO2 Sold
The KIO2 I offered is sold. Thanks. 72! Jim Stephens, NX8Z Sent via iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Solar Power for KX3
I'm using two solar setups. One is a 100W system for the K3 and KX3 / ham station generally. That's probably not going to interest anyone for portable ops with the KX3. Five or so years ago, I bought 80 4.5-inch wafers from a 2nd tier outfit in New England. From these, I built two panels that supply 21V with no load, and output is about 18W each. The panels were designed to strap on the rear of a backpack and they're about 16 x 28. I've used them only a few times as this transport arrangement is a bit clumsy and maneuvering is difficult with that type of unwieldy backpack load. Now I only use them when I drive the operating location. I would recommend some of the more modern roll-up amorphous silicon PV modules. I've seen them at Field Day, but don't have any brand names. 73, matt W6NIA On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:28:52 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: Rather than reinvent the wheel, does anybody have experience or suggestions for a small solar array sufficient to keep a KX3 with internal batteries going during daylight? I would assume 10 watts average over a reasonable TX duty cycle would be enough.? Something strong enough or flexible enough to withstand packing for air travel would be desirable. 73?? -? Jim?? K8MR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Solar Power for KX3
The key here is a good charge controller. I use a mppt controller and it is 98 % efficient. Gets 30% for charge. Has 3 different charge rates and handles all battery types. My RV is also wind turbine and solar powered. I have 560 watt solar to my mppt charger, then to my 900 amp hr battery bank. At night the wind turbine (600 watts) takes over and charges my battery bank. ( aw living off the grid. ) On Apr 19, 2013 10:07 AM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote: I'm using two solar setups. One is a 100W system for the K3 and KX3 / ham station generally. That's probably not going to interest anyone for portable ops with the KX3. Five or so years ago, I bought 80 4.5-inch wafers from a 2nd tier outfit in New England. From these, I built two panels that supply 21V with no load, and output is about 18W each. The panels were designed to strap on the rear of a backpack and they're about 16 x 28. I've used them only a few times as this transport arrangement is a bit clumsy and maneuvering is difficult with that type of unwieldy backpack load. Now I only use them when I drive the operating location. I would recommend some of the more modern roll-up amorphous silicon PV modules. I've seen them at Field Day, but don't have any brand names. 73, matt W6NIA On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:28:52 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: Rather than reinvent the wheel, does anybody have experience or suggestions for a small solar array sufficient to keep a KX3 with internal batteries going during daylight? I would assume 10 watts average over a reasonable TX duty cycle would be enough.? Something strong enough or flexible enough to withstand packing for air travel would be desirable. 73?? -? Jim?? K8MR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Solar Power for KX3
I agree re the charge controller. I use a kit-built one from CirKits. Model: SCC3. It is uber-RF-quiet being a linear cc, and can handle 20A. 73, matt W6NIA On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:30:57 -0500, you wrote: The key here is a good charge controller. I use a mppt controller and it is 98 % efficient. Gets 30% for charge. Has 3 different charge rates and handles all battery types. My RV is also wind turbine and solar powered. I have 560 watt solar to my mppt charger, then to my 900 amp hr battery bank. At night the wind turbine (600 watts) takes over and charges my battery bank. ( aw living off the grid. ) On Apr 19, 2013 10:07 AM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote: I'm using two solar setups. One is a 100W system for the K3 and KX3 / ham station generally. That's probably not going to interest anyone for portable ops with the KX3. Five or so years ago, I bought 80 4.5-inch wafers from a 2nd tier outfit in New England. From these, I built two panels that supply 21V with no load, and output is about 18W each. The panels were designed to strap on the rear of a backpack and they're about 16 x 28. I've used them only a few times as this transport arrangement is a bit clumsy and maneuvering is difficult with that type of unwieldy backpack load. Now I only use them when I drive the operating location. I would recommend some of the more modern roll-up amorphous silicon PV modules. I've seen them at Field Day, but don't have any brand names. 73, matt W6NIA On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:28:52 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: Rather than reinvent the wheel, does anybody have experience or suggestions for a small solar array sufficient to keep a KX3 with internal batteries going during daylight? I would assume 10 watts average over a reasonable TX duty cycle would be enough.? Something strong enough or flexible enough to withstand packing for air travel would be desirable. 73?? -? Jim?? K8MR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Solar Power for KX3
MPPT Controllers (small capacity) are few and far between and expensive. Several are actually PWM, are falsely marketed as MPPT, making the situation complicated. A MPPT controller can produce about 30% more power from a given solar panel during the summer months and about 10% more during the winter months. But it may be difficult to justify the substantial cost increase for smaller panels -- ask the question are you better off spending $100 more for a MPPT controller to get 3 watts more out of a 10 watt panel, or spending $100 to buy a 20 watt panel? The BuddiPole charge controller may be ideal for a KX3 user. It is very small, will work with LiFePO4 batteries or SLAs, and it isn't particularly expensive. But as others have said, using a charge controller is critical. http://www.buddipole.com/sobaco.html 73, Bob, WB4SON __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] L5 33 UH RF Choke
Richard, Yes, that RF Choke is in the bandpass filter and the current is quite low, so most any 33 uHy choke that physically fits will work fine. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/19/2013 10:36 AM, Dickie M0AUW wrote: Hi I've noticed that the 33 UH RF Choke (L5) is missing from my K2 Kit, can I just replace with a standard 33UH choke from here in the UK? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Solar Power for KX3
I have two solar panels mounted together that I got, along with a 36AH SLA battery for running our Colman camp cooler (5A draw) on road trips. The panels together supply about 7.5A at 12-18V and will fit on the roof rack of our 4Runner. I also have a made in China charge controller for the setup which includes low voltage cutoff. (All of these pieces came from Jameco.) Having decided that it was wasteful to only use them on trips, I put the panels on the roof and am using them to run the K3/10+P3. This setup is good enough to run the radio on receive all night. (I haven't tried it during our rainy season.) I hope it will run well for field day. Cheers - Bill AE6JV --- Bill Frantz| If the site is supported by | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | ads, you are the product.| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Greetings to Group
What sad news. Phil and I became friends after conversing about the recipes for his spices. I ordered a large variety and he threw in a couple others that he recommended. He was passionate about his cooking products, Elecraft, our hobby and life in general. Great guy. I will think of him every time I throw a steak on the grill. Terry, WØFM -Original Message- From: Kyle N4NSS [mailto:n4...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:17 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Greetings to Group Greetings to Group: I have the sad news to inform all that Phil La Marche W9DVM passed on April 14th. from complications due to a case of the stomach flu. Several years ago he posted a request on a local reflector group looking for someone to do some tower climbing, antenna work and odd projects in the shack. I responded. The visits led to a friendship that I will never forget. His wife Diane asked me if I would help with the disbursement of the equipment. The first day a went over I got some things done but I mostly I just sat in the shack. Tough day to say the least. This past Tuesday I went and spent the whole day sorting, documenting, and packing the items up resale. I also made the decision to buy all his K3 line and also the KX3. I'm not rich but I didn't want to part out his dream station. As a good friend I also dug deep into the checking account for Diane. She is happy that it went to me. So here I am with my dream station...maybe someday someone like me will come around for my wife. Kyle N4NSS “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails... Explore. Dream. Discover.” --Mark Twain __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Mounting/cabling PR6
The little 3 pin connector without any strain relief and wires hanging off it give me concern. How have others made this connection secure mechanically? I'm thinking of making up a little block with a phono plug for the control signal and a power pole for power and somehow securing this to the PR6 case, perhaps with double sided foam tap. I'll make up some RG8X BNC/BNC jumpers for the ins and outs. Pix and links wanted. Thanks jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Mounting/cabling PR6
Hi Jim, The small black connector that fits into the PR6 is a really tight friction fit. I doubt it could be accidentally pulled out. The red and black wires terminate in a RCA plug that goes into the back of the K3. It's no more likely to pull out then any other K3 rear cable. (If you also have a P3 you would need a RCA Y cable). The white wire is more problematic. I extended mine and have it wired into a 15 pin fanout board for the K3 accessory socket. 73, Mike K2MK Jim AB3CV wrote The little 3 pin connector without any strain relief and wires hanging off it give me concern. How have others made this connection secure mechanically? I'm thinking of making up a little block with a phono plug for the control signal and a power pole for power and somehow securing this to the PR6 case, perhaps with double sided foam tap. I'll make up some RG8X BNC/BNC jumpers for the ins and outs. Pix and links wanted. Thanks jim ab3cv -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Mounting-cabling-PR6-tp7572806p7572807.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/100 power consumption
hello, if I have a K3/100 with all options ( 2nd recv, 2m, tuner P3), which will be the watt/amp consumption? and which must be the continuum regime? I am locking DC supplies in local market and are with luck about 20amps peak (and weigh a ton, since they have transformers) 73 Gus LU6HXV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Greetings to Group
When my wife died 13 years ago, I mentioned that my son and I were just not equipped to prepare edible meals. Phil sent me a large assortment of his spices, unsolicited but much appreciated, to at least mask our mistakes. Thanks to him, we had our last meal standing next to each other over the sink. I've thought about him often since then when I'm in the kitchen wondering about dinner. I'm only a marginally better cook, but his gift made me try harder. Eric On 4/19/2013 9:42 AM, Terry Schieler wrote: What sad news. Phil and I became friends after conversing about the recipes for his spices. I ordered a large variety and he threw in a couple others that he recommended. He was passionate about his cooking products, Elecraft, our hobby and life in general. Great guy. I will think of him every time I throw a steak on the grill. Terry, WØFM -Original Message- From: Kyle N4NSS [mailto:n4...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:17 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Greetings to Group Greetings to Group: I have the sad news to inform all that Phil La Marche W9DVM passed on April 14th. from complications due to a case of the stomach flu. Several years ago he posted a request on a local reflector group looking for someone to do some tower climbing, antenna work and odd projects in the shack. I responded. The visits led to a friendship that I will never forget. His wife Diane asked me if I would help with the disbursement of the equipment. The first day a went over I got some things done but I mostly I just sat in the shack. Tough day to say the least. This past Tuesday I went and spent the whole day sorting, documenting, and packing the items up resale. I also made the decision to buy all his K3 line and also the KX3. I'm not rich but I didn't want to part out his dream station. As a good friend I also dug deep into the checking account for Diane. She is happy that it went to me. So here I am with my dream station...maybe someday someone like me will come around for my wife. Kyle N4NSS “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails... Explore. Dream. Discover.” --Mark Twain __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Another Happy KX3 Customer
I know this forum is for solving problems, but I've just got to let folks know Elecraft's got another happy KX3 customer. I finished my kit yesterday, and after charging the batteries for 12 hours, thought I'd give the radio a try. Hooked it up to my Stealth Long Wire antenna. Set power to 5 watts and sent CQ a couple times (from Naples, FL) and who comes back? DL8MX near Nurnberg, Germany! He gave me a 559 and we had a nice QSO. Not bad at all for the first QSO. Everything went together perfectly with the kit, except for some missing screws which are probably on the floor around my work bench. It's just great to see American companies still turning out world-class products like Elecraft. 73, Ron Gruner K4RHG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KRC2 Firmware/Power Problem
One of my KRC2s wipes the firmware when the power is removed from the unit. This never happens with my other unit. Any thoughts from the group? Rich __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 stuck in transmit?
My K3 is stuck in transmit. As soon as it powers on, it goes straight into transmit. Nothing I've tried has corrected the problem. At this point, there's nothing connected to the K3 except power and a dummy load, still can't get it out of transmit. Doesn't want to respond to the serial port (when it's hooked up, of course) either. Ideas? 73, Ross N4RP -- FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.” __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KRC2 Firmware/Power Problem
Rich, Is the OP/DL switch to the OP (operate) position before removing power? That is the only possible reason I can think of, and it should not clear the firmware even then. Can you tell us the whole scenario? How do you determine that it has lost its firmware - KRC2 Utility or other means? Are you running it with a K2 or a K3? Rhetorical question -- Why do things like this come up on Friday after Elecraft support has gone for the weekend? 73, Don W3FPR On 4/19/2013 6:39 PM, K3RWN wrote: One of my KRC2s wipes the firmware when the power is removed from the unit. This never happens with my other unit. Any thoughts from the group? Rich __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 stuck in transmit?
Ross, If you have everything disconnected from the K3 except power and a dummy load, then I have no really good ideas of the cause. Are you certain it is in Transmit? Is there any power output developed? If it is really in transmit and power out is developed, I would suggest trying an EEINIT - hopefully you have a saved configuration file so you don't have to do all the re-calibration process manually. See the manual section on Parameter Initialization for the steps involved. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/19/2013 7:14 PM, Ross Primrose wrote: My K3 is stuck in transmit. As soon as it powers on, it goes straight into transmit. Nothing I've tried has corrected the problem. At this point, there's nothing connected to the K3 except power and a dummy load, still can't get it out of transmit. Doesn't want to respond to the serial port (when it's hooked up, of course) either. Ideas? 73, Ross N4RP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Early report on IDXC, Visalia
After lunch today, we picked up our registration packets for the 2013 International DX Convention in Visalia. The organizers did a superb job. The badges were even placed in the clear plastic holder. Northern California DX Foundation provided nice lanyards for the badges. The program booklet is in color, glossy and very professional looking. Saw good friends Cam (N6GA) and Rich (KI6SN), who were working at the CQ booth. Also Fried and Sandy Heyn, Dick Norton and Vern (W6MMA) the antenna guy, and Joe, the Wireman. The Elecraft area was drawing the usual amount of attention. As hoped, there was a prototype KXPA100 amplifier on display. Rose Kopp and OM Ken were there with Rose's Elecraft covers. The XYL ordered a carrying case for my KX3 as a birthday gift. I should have it in about a month, which is fine. Someone tried stuffing the new KX3 amp into a KX3 carrying case, but it was an inch or so too short. Rose is already working on extending the case for that purpose. Also, Fred Cady was there with a proof copy of his new book on the KX3, which he said will be ready about the middle of May - just in time for Dayton. It will be available in both 8.5 x 11 format and also 6 x 9 as well. If you're thinking of ordering a carrying case from Rose, and you think you will be buying either the KXPA100 or the smaller-size KX3 book, be sure to let Rose know when you order. She will make the case about 1 taller at no extra cost. That's the way that mine was ordered. This is our first IDXC since about 2001, and it's much nicer having the facilities of the convention center, as opposed to the older Holiday Inn. Word is that there were about 800 pre-registered, and another 100 expected to register on site. Tomorrow, one more trip to the vendor area and an afternoon of talks on recent DXpeditions. 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] Rf connectors inside
Does anyone know the name of coaxial cable connectors inside the K3? I'm looking for this type of connectors for a project. Edu YY4GMJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Solar Power for KX3
A side note for those attending Dayton. There has been a company that manufactures solar panels for the government at Dayton the last couple of years. They sell blemished panels that are used as panels in tents for power that would work perfectly for the KX3. I've got two of them and use them to charge my cell phone and run an electric cooler while out in backwoods. Forget the name of the company but they set up close to the M2, Green Herron rotor control, Array solutions booths. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch Staunton, Illinois email: b...@wjschmidt.com -Original Message- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Rf connectors inside
I believe they are called TMP connectors. Here are some drawings. http://www.telamon-corp.com/components/PDF/TMP.pdf David K0LUM On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Eduardo González wrote: Does anyone know the name of coaxial cable connectors inside the K3? I'm looking for this type of connectors for a project. Edu YY4GMJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 / KX3 Key Jack
Okay, I think I am losing my mind. Is the K3 key jack stereo or mono? I know I only use two wires for a key, but for some reason, I have a stereo (TRS) plug on my key cable. I cannot find what I'm looking for in the manual either. I don't think the wiring for the KX3 matters (either T or R is used for keying with a straight key if set for HAND). I'm building an external keyer that I'm going to use with both a paddle and a straight key. I also want to switch the output of the keyer between the K3 and the KX3 so I don't have to swap cables all the time. 73, Joel - W4JBB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Rf connectors inside
They are called TMP connectors. The connectors are very inexpensivethe crimp tool to properly install them, not so much. On 4/19/2013 8:00 PM, Eduardo González wrote: Does anyone know the name of coaxial cable connectors inside the K3? I'm looking for this type of connectors for a project. Edu YY4GMJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Rf connectors inside
Thank you David and Gary. Now i'm looking on ebay, rfparts, digikey and adafruit but can not find!. I need three pigtails almost 10 using male connector on both ends. All radio equipment use this type of connector but is not so easy find it :-( Edu YY4GMJ On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com wrote: They are called TMP connectors. The connectors are very inexpensivethe crimp tool to properly install them, not so much. On 4/19/2013 8:00 PM, Eduardo González wrote: Does anyone know the name of coaxial cable connectors inside the K3? I'm looking for this type of connectors for a project. Edu YY4GMJ __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org ** __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Rf connectors inside
The RF Connection in Maryland sells them. Look here http://www.therfc.com/taiko.htm 73, Chuck AA3CS Sent from my iPad On Apr 19, 2013, at 22:01, Eduardo González edujo...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you David and Gary. Now i'm looking on ebay, rfparts, digikey and adafruit but can not find!. I need three pigtails almost 10 using male connector on both ends. All radio equipment use this type of connector but is not so easy find it :-( Edu YY4GMJ On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com wrote: They are called TMP connectors. The connectors are very inexpensivethe crimp tool to properly install them, not so much. On 4/19/2013 8:00 PM, Eduardo González wrote: Does anyone know the name of coaxial cable connectors inside the K3? I'm looking for this type of connectors for a project. Edu YY4GMJ __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org ** __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 / KX3 Key Jack
Joel, Both the K3 and KX3 have internal keyers so a stereo connection is required in order to get the three required connections: ground, paddle dot, and paddle dash. My experience is with the KX3 only but I think the K3 works the same way. The KX3 manual states that the sense of whether the tip contact is for dot or dash is menu programmable. The third menu selection is for Hand keys and either tip or ring will work for the hand key connection. Hope this helps, 73, BILL GERTH, W4RK Jefferson City, MO First Licensed 1954 CWOPS #459 4 States QRP Group KX3 (S/N 112) On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Joel Black wrote: Okay, I think I am losing my mind. Is the K3 key jack stereo or mono? I know I only use two wires for a key, but for some reason, I have a stereo (TRS) plug on my key cable. I cannot find what I'm looking for in the manual either. I don't think the wiring for the KX3 matters (either T or R is used for keying with a straight key if set for HAND). I'm building an external keyer that I'm going to use with both a paddle and a straight key. I also want to switch the output of the keyer between the K3 and the KX3 so I don't have to swap cables all the time. 73, Joel - W4JBB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 / KX3 Key Jack
Joel, Use a stereo plug for both the K3 and the KX3. Connect the keyer to the tip and the sleeve on both plugs (no connection to the ring) and it should work just fine. Set the KX3 menu to Hand. Yes, it does not matter to the KX3 whether the tip or ring are used, but connecting only to the tip will allow use of the plug into multiple transceivers with no changes. Many will not work with keying to the ring contact. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/19/2013 9:25 PM, Joel Black wrote: Okay, I think I am losing my mind. Is the K3 key jack stereo or mono? I know I only use two wires for a key, but for some reason, I have a stereo (TRS) plug on my key cable. I cannot find what I'm looking for in the manual either. I don't think the wiring for the KX3 matters (either T or R is used for keying with a straight key if set for HAND). I'm building an external keyer that I'm going to use with both a paddle and a straight key. I also want to switch the output of the keyer between the K3 and the KX3 so I don't have to swap cables all the time. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Early report on IDXC, Visalia
I got in too late to register, but I had registered for the topband dinner. The program at the dinner was, Les Kalmus, W2LK: ZL9HR - The Auckland and Campbell Island 160m Challenge. Nice moviesand photos of a sail boat in gale force winds, territorial sea lions, and several species of albatross. As may be all too familiar, weather and seas delayed the arrival, setup and operations. Weather also ate a number of their antennas, which looked more like pretzels than efficient radiators. And the island was cold and wet with highs between 6C and 12C. It sounds like they had a fun trip. The rest of the evening included a presentation from Hi-Z Antennas (by K7TJR) on their topband receive antennas, and the drawing of door prizes. It was a fun evening where many old friends met again face-to-face. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV --- Bill Frantz|The nice thing about standards| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 |is there are so many to choose| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |from. - Andrew Tanenbaum| Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
