[Elecraft] A confession
Gary, Take time out, study the manual learn to embrace the modern features and play, play and play some more to learn your way around. You have taken the tests, passed the exams etc so practice what has been preached. Get rid of the big rice box, keep the TS590s (best value on the ham market today) for back up or field day. Then just fall in love with your K3 - simples. Very 73 Chris M5LRO --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
My guess would be that the local oscillator of the KX3 (which is on the rx qrg) is emitted via the shield of the coax cable (common mode?) received by the charger's usb cable, modulated with the 60Hz by non-linearities in the charger and than re-emitted (maybe by the wiring a a whole) and then received by your antenna. If you turn on the 8khz shift, the re-emitted hum-modulated signal is 8khz away from your rx qrg and if you dissconnect the shield, the antenna that transmits the local oscillator is missing. Maybe a current mode choke close to the KX3 and one at the antenna's feed point will stop this from happen. Did you try to switch on and off the isolator amplifier in the KX3? The mechanism is called Ortssenderproblem (local station problem) in german and means that every rf signal is detected by the wiring in the house, modulated by the 60Hz hum by the non-linearities and then re-emitted. With my indoor antenna and a funcube SDR, all signals consist of one direct and one re-emitted part and almost all signals I find are either 50 or 100 Hz modulated (sidebands about 40 dB down). I can even see the local oscillator of my battery powered KX3 (weak) and the 100 Hz sidebands. When I got my KX3, I connected it to a piece of wire lying on the floor for initial testing and was having the same problem, but switching on the ISO amp in the menu solved it for me as did the 8khz feature and turning on the 10dB preamp. Normally the antenna is far away from the wiring and the re-emitted signal is much weaker than the original signal, but if the only signal is the local oscillator, this is possibly not true and the fraction re-emitted by the wiring is stronger than the original local oscillator. Greetings Ralf, DL6OAP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
Nick, The wire should run outside. It can and should be buried. It does not have to be down very far, but deep enough it will not be damaged by the lawn mower or shovels if you should dig in that area. A perimeter wire around the house would not be a bad idea either, it can divert a lightning surge such that it does not punch a hole in the foundation. If you are also using the wire for that kind of protection, it should have a ground stake each place where the wire makes a turn - lightning likes to move in a straight path. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2014 12:29 AM, Nicklas Johnson wrote: That's a really good point, and in fact I have it on my 'to do' list to get the bonding done correctly. It's complicated by the ground rods being on the opposite side of the house, and the utilities running underground without an exposed ground stake by the utility box outside. I think code also won't let me run conduit under the house in the crawl space, so it has to go around the outside of the house, and then somehow safely/correctly enter the utility box and connect to the utility ground bus. I wonder if code allows the conduit to run through a garage, and if it'll be okay to run up the wall about 8' to get through it and be out of the way or if it's okay to run it along the roof line rather than along the ground (I think along the ground would be preferable)... ... Maybe it'll be best to hire someone to handle that part. Definitely agree it needs to be done, and I've already been planning it out / waiting for a tax refund. Nick On February 9, 2014 9:01:09 PM PST, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Nick, I suspect your antenna ground stakes were not connected to the utility entry ground rod with a #6 or larger copper wire. The earth creates resistance between the antenna ground stake(s) and the AC ground in your home. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 bandwidth modification issue
Steve, How does the OP1 filter passband look when viewed on Spectrogram? It should show a nice flat passband. If it has a dip or valley in it, look for a bad connection on one of the capacitors or crystals. What is the possibility that you damaged one of the thru-plated holes when removing the old crystals and capacitors. Use the schematic to determine 'which is connected to what' and check all those connections with your ohmmeter. You may also have a problem with T1 or T2 soldering or a poor solder connection in the switching diodes or R-Paks. Re-flow the solder in those areas with a hot (750 degF) soldering iron. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2014 2:30 AM, Steve Garwood wrote: Hello! I am working on a K2, 3000 s/n in which I installed the K2 SSBCAPKT along with the 14 crystal kit. Receive is working, audio level is low on the OP1 filter, normal on FL1, etc. I have transmit, with good audio, however, no measurable power output or ALC reading. I've been searching for something similar to this, no luck so far. It seems that the filter output is low, but functioning. Alignment addresses adjusting BFO frequency, but nothing about output level. I checked soldering again, but I have not made it any further than this Any ideas? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 driving AL-800H
Hi George I am keying the AL=811 from the key jack on the adaptor via the CAT-6 cable. I also reinstalled the beta f/w files, for the KXPA, and it just occurred to me to reintall the config file for the KX3. I will do that after breakfast. 73, Al ve7ear On 09/02/2014 10:02 PM, george fritkin wrote: Are you keying the al811h with the key jack on the kxpa100? That won't work George W6GF -- On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 8:58 PM PST Al Sather wrote: Greetings All I am having a problem with my KXPA100 driving my AL-811H. First what works KX3 driving AL-811H no problems, and at 10 watts drive I get over 125 watts out, about what I expect. KX3 driving KXPA100 no problems, and performs as advertised, and tested to 90 watts. KX3 using my KXPA100 to drive AL-811H which has out put pretty much as expected (approx less that 40 watts in with more than 400 out) It should be noted my all f/w etc. is up to date, and today I replaced the power amp drivers with the most recent beta version. This did not help, as expected. Also, the ATU in both the KX3 and KXPA are bypassed, since there is a third antenna tuner in line to handle the high power from the AL-811. Now the problem! My Rx was attenuated from a S7-S8 signal to a S1-S2 while working the Elecraft SSB net this morning when the AL-811 is keyed, even briefly (i.e just a dit). Turning the 811H off and on or going from opr to stand by restores the Rx to normal. While talking with the net, I was Txing nearly 500 watts, but needed to go from opr-stand by, to copy net control. Tx was not affected. I have carefully followed the suggested wiring by the KXPA100 user manual as shown on page 14. If I use the Key line found on the KXPA100, I still get attention of the Rx upon termination of Tx. Up until today, the KXPA100 has performed flawlessly and a joy to assemble and to operate. My question is, ``Where may the fault lie``. Changing the ``Opr`` status resets the attention in the AL-811H. Suggests an AL-811 issue. But, only when the KXPA is part of the circuit, Rx attenuation occurs. Suggests and KXPA issue. Or, these two amps just do not each other ;-( If I set the power level, say to 2 watts, the KXPA should not fire as a PA, but it is still part of the circuit, and Rx attenuation occurs. Could there be a grounding isssue. The KX3 is able to drive the AL-811 without issue. Any suggestions as to what I can do next, or where should I look for an issue. Thank you Al, ve7ear apsat...@shaw.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7079 - Release Date: 02/09/14 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] HRD digital USB wire to K3/KPA500 lockup?
Anyone having this problem? This is everything I can think of: When running digital, my computer looses contact with my K3/P3/KPA500/KAT500. In other words, DM780 stops working necessitating shutting down HRD, pulling and re-plugging in the USB connection, restarting HRD. Sometime the K3 is locked in transmit and needs to be shut down too because I have no response from any of the buttons. It doesn't seem to matter what power output I run. I will sometimes get an error message about serial stopped working. I am thinking this is an RF problem, but have not been able to locate and solve it. I have wrapped multiple turns of the USB/serial cable on a mix 31 toroid, rechecked my house and antenna ground system. The antenna I am using is a remote tuned vertical about 90 feet away with 35 ground radials. Computer is a laptop (I have several with XP, W7 and W8) doesn't make any difference which one I use. The KAT500 has 2 antennas connected, the vertical and an OCF dipole (rarely used). The tuner is only used when using the dipole. Is it possible there is not enough isolation between the antennas? All coax is RG8, except in the shack 8U for the interconnects between K3 and KPA500. This problem doesn't happen when using FLdigi. But then I need to log manually or am using N1MM in contests. Shack is on the 2nd floor, grounded through the copper radiator system, and jumpered to 2 separate ground rods in basement. All equipment is connected to one common ground using 1 1/2 braid. All rig interconnects are Elecraft. No 3rd party. HRD is latest version. I been scratching my head over this for several months. -- John Fritze Jr K2QY k...@arrl.net ACACES president 2014 Albany County RACES Radio Officer ARES ENY DEC Northern District Hudson Div. Asst. Director Twitter: @k2qy 401 261 4996 (cell) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
H ... My K3 (S/N 0056) has never missed a beat, so to speak. Firmware updates have always gone smoothly. It sees heavy contest usage, FD, and sometimes travels in an RV with dirty 12V / solar / wind power, etc. Could you elaborate about what you meant to say? More stable firmware and displays and Hickups. bumps or whatever ... hard to be more vague than that!! (;-) You did your friend a disservice. 73 ! Ken - K0PP On Feb 10, 2014 7:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
Now that you mention it, I did notice the buzz went away when I turned on the preamp, but I thought it was just my imagination or that the static had just become sufficiently loud that my own hearing wasn't responding to it anymore. Nick On 10 February 2014 03:02, Ralf Wilhelm r...@super-deutschland.net wrote: When I got my KX3, I connected it to a piece of wire lying on the floor for initial testing and was having the same problem, but switching on the ISO amp in the menu solved it for me as did the 8khz feature and turning on the 10dB preamp. Normally the antenna is far away from the wiring and the re-emitted signal is much weaker than the original signal, but if the only signal is the local oscillator, this is possibly not true and the fraction re-emitted by the wiring is stronger than the original local oscillator. -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] FSK RTTY Problems
Similar to others I had major problems with FSK-D RTTY with the latest beta firmware this weekend on my K3 #1210. I often found that my K3 didn't appear to recognize on the first attempt on a band that the KPA500 was even present at all and instead put out the full 100W that I normally run when not using the KPA500. I hadn't seen this reported by others. Needless to say the KPA faulted immediately on that! I never really found a repeatable sequence that would set the power. I had seen the note that power changes in TX or RX could be different so I frantically tried either after reducing power into the teens after the KPA faulted to huge overdrives. I eventually found settings on each of 10 thru 80m that were somewhere between 400 and 500w but never felt comfortable that something wasn't going to go nuts. FWIW, I normally run 500w or a bit more on RTTY with no problems at all prior to this beta. Eagerly awaiting a fix!!! 73 jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3, KAT500, KPA500 Beta Updates
Just wanted to pass along that I have downloaded all the Beta updates for the K3, KAT500 and KPA500 and all works well. I worked some the contest this weekend with no issues. The KAT500 does search a bit more often but seems to find a better match condition in the process which is good in my book. With all the concerns recently expressed, I just wanted to pass along some positive praise to the Elecraft folks. Thanks, Bill - W0BBI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-KAT500-KPA500-Beta-Updates-tp7583968.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] HRD digital USB wire to K3/KPA500 lockup?
Absolutely textbook example of common mode (conducted) RFI on the antenna cable. See the K9YC and GM3SEk documentation on common mode chokes. In your case, I'd suggest one at the remote tuner and one at the ground rod where your feedlines enter the shack. The problem occurs because the RF voltage on the *outside* of the coax follows the shield of the USB cable to the computer - if the voltage is high enough the negative swings fool the computer into thinking the USB cable has been unplugged and Windows disconnects it. A few toroids on the USB cable will not necessarily do the job - get rid of the RF at the source (antenna/entry). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/10/2014 9:31 AM, John Fritze wrote: Anyone having this problem? This is everything I can think of: When running digital, my computer looses contact with my K3/P3/KPA500/KAT500. In other words, DM780 stops working necessitating shutting down HRD, pulling and re-plugging in the USB connection, restarting HRD. Sometime the K3 is locked in transmit and needs to be shut down too because I have no response from any of the buttons. It doesn't seem to matter what power output I run. I will sometimes get an error message about serial stopped working. I am thinking this is an RF problem, but have not been able to locate and solve it. I have wrapped multiple turns of the USB/serial cable on a mix 31 toroid, rechecked my house and antenna ground system. The antenna I am using is a remote tuned vertical about 90 feet away with 35 ground radials. Computer is a laptop (I have several with XP, W7 and W8) doesn't make any difference which one I use. The KAT500 has 2 antennas connected, the vertical and an OCF dipole (rarely used). The tuner is only used when using the dipole. Is it possible there is not enough isolation between the antennas? All coax is RG8, except in the shack 8U for the interconnects between K3 and KPA500. This problem doesn't happen when using FLdigi. But then I need to log manually or am using N1MM in contests. Shack is on the 2nd floor, grounded through the copper radiator system, and jumpered to 2 separate ground rods in basement. All equipment is connected to one common ground using 1 1/2 braid. All rig interconnects are Elecraft. No 3rd party. HRD is latest version. I been scratching my head over this for several months. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
Mike, it seems that simply bypassing the beta versions would avoid such issues re F/W. But I don't get the displays comment. My criterion would be to have only mods which require no disassembly, soldering, etc. -- which can happen early on. I don't yet have one, but I reckon the K3 should be past that stage by now. 73, Phil On 2/10/14, 6:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. 73 Mike R __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 bandwidth modification issue
Don, I am not the original builder of the K2, so I will be downloading Spectrogram. I will go through the individual connection points for the swapped crystals and capacitors with the ohmmeter to make sure that there are no connection issues. Thanks for identifying a troubleshooting path! I will advise on results. Thanks again! 73, Steve, N0CZV -Original Message- Steve, How does the OP1 filter passband look when viewed on Spectrogram? It should show a nice flat passband. If it has a dip or valley in it, look for a bad connection on one of the capacitors or crystals. What is the possibility that you damaged one of the thru-plated holes when removing the old crystals and capacitors. Use the schematic to determine 'which is connected to what' and check all those connections with your ohmmeter. You may also have a problem with T1 or T2 soldering or a poor solder connection in the switching diodes or R-Paks. Re-flow the solder in those areas with a hot (750 degF) soldering iron. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2014 2:30 AM, Steve Garwood wrote: Hello! I am working on a K2, 3000 s/n in which I installed the K2 SSBCAPKT along with the 14 crystal kit. Receive is working, audio level is low on the OP1 filter, normal on FL1, etc. I have transmit, with good audio, however, no measurable power output or ALC reading. I've been searching for something similar to this, no luck so far. It seems that the filter output is low, but functioning. Alignment addresses adjusting BFO frequency, but nothing about output level. I checked soldering again, but I have not made it any further than this Any ideas? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 bandwidth modification issue
I'm reading with interest, Steve. I build my K2 early on (#380) and have done many of the mods, but not that one as yet -- xtals earlier but not all the caps, etc.; I'm not excited by working on that closely-spaced board. (I'm just returning to it after a ten-year hiatus, and have done other updates in the past week). So I'll be following your results here as part of my decision-making process :-) 73, Phil On 2/10/14, 7:09 AM, Steve Garwood wrote: Don, I am not the original builder of the K2, so I will be downloading Spectrogram. I will go through the individual connection points for the swapped crystals and capacitors with the ohmmeter to make sure that there are no connection issues. Thanks for identifying a troubleshooting path! I will advise on results. Thanks again! 73, Steve, N0CZV -Original Message- Steve, How does the OP1 filter passband look when viewed on Spectrogram? It should show a nice flat passband. If it has a dip or valley in it, look for a bad connection on one of the capacitors or crystals. What is the possibility that you damaged one of the thru-plated holes when removing the old crystals and capacitors. Use the schematic to determine 'which is connected to what' and check all those connections with your ohmmeter. You may also have a problem with T1 or T2 soldering or a poor solder connection in the switching diodes or R-Paks. Re-flow the solder in those areas with a hot (750 degF) soldering iron. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2014 2:30 AM, Steve Garwood wrote: Hello! I am working on a K2, 3000 s/n in which I installed the K2 SSBCAPKT along with the 14 crystal kit. Receive is working, audio level is low on the OP1 filter, normal on FL1, etc. I have transmit, with good audio, however, no measurable power output or ALC reading. I've been searching for something similar to this, no luck so far. It seems that the filter output is low, but functioning. Alignment addresses adjusting BFO frequency, but nothing about output level. I checked soldering again, but I have not made it any further than this Any ideas? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
Mike, I believe if you carefully examine the reports of hiccups, bumps, and whatever, you will find that many (if not most) of them are the result of computer setup with the various logging and rig control applications that users attempt to set up or use with the K3. Another area of frequent problem reports is connections to a digital interface of some sort. These are not K3 problems, but problems users have had setting up and using those applications and accessories and the computer problems which result. The K3 has wisely chosen to 'put its computers' (microprocessors) inside the K3. There are very few real problems with the K3 loaded with production level firmware. There is no dependency on a variety of computers coupled with a variety of operating systems. The Utility programs do need a computer to run, but are normally not needed for other than firmware loads and saving the configuration. The Utility programs do provide several user conveniences for things like loading CW memories more easily than doing it with the K3 alone - use of those added Utility features is optional and is the user's choice. The K3 hardware has been quite solid for a long time now. Yes, there are user questions that come up here frequently that are easily resolved through questions here on the reflector, and yes if you look at the problems that are revealed by those who load beta firmware, you may find some problem reports - but that is what beta firmware is all about, and only those who are willing to try it and report any problems should be using a beta version. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2014 9:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Another thank-you to Elecraft customer support
I recently ordered a K3 and had a problem with the order. I called Elecraft and talked to Mike, who tracked down the problem, and had it taken care of in about 5 minutes. Two days later my K3/10 arrived. The box arrived Saturday afternoon and by noon on Sunday I made my first contact with it :-) Building it was well-worth the time. The instructions were clear, photos added enough detail to answer my question, and there was only one step that wasn't clear but a Google search found the answer. If anyone is lurking on the list and trying to decide if the kit is doable, it wasn't difficult at all. My 15 year old was impressed that his old man could build something that cool ;-) I had another commitment and couldn't make the net yesterday, but hopefully next Sunday K3 #8017 will be on! Wayne... I sent a thank you to Mike this morning, but please thank him again for me! 73 Bob - K2UT KX3 #1418 K3 #8017 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft Kit Idea
An up converter from 10kHz to 500kHz with typical Elecraft quality would be acceptable by me. I have one already but not of the quality I would expect from the boys in Aptos, so would gladly purchase build their kit. John Hendricks K7JLT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Kit Idea
Bonus points for fitting in place of the 2 meter transverter!! Although I'd settle for just the 630M band coverage. 73 jim ab3cv On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:59 AM, K7JLTextra k7jltex...@gmail.com wrote: An up converter from 10kHz to 500kHz with typical Elecraft quality would be acceptable by me. I have one already but not of the quality I would expect from the boys in Aptos, so would gladly purchase build their kit. John Hendricks K7JLT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
Mike, It's occurred to me that I should ask ... Do you have / use an Elecraft radio? If so, have you had a firmware ... or display issue with it and did you ask for and / or receive help? I have the impression you're just echoing other poster's comments. On Feb 10, 2014 7:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
As someone coming back to the K3 family, the only hiccups I ever had with my K3s were operator error induced like trying to load new firmware through a virtual port. No issues whatsoever with displays or firmware unless you consider some minor degradation of CW decode functionality a few years ago in one of the later firmware upgrades but that was fixed shortly thereafter by the Elecraft team and I went back to the previous version anyway during that time between fixings. You won't get that kind of support from any other rig manufacturer. Keith AK6ZZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] My K3 is Sick!
Sick seems to be the word the kids at the Olympics now use to describe an exceptional performance, as in, Dude, that gold medal run you just did was totally sick! So, I tune in to 10 meters CW this morning to see what FT5ZM is up to. As usual, the pileup is S9 and about 20 khz wide. I'm running my K3 at five watts, into a G5RV wire antenna up about 30 feet. And it's snowing. But, what the heck. I widen the P3 range to see the whole pileup, look for a minute to see where he's listening, punch up my Split macro, and call. Once. Back he comes, first time. Now, granted, these are the best ops in the world, and like me, they are using the best radio in the world, but still. Five watts, wire antenna, snow storm, huge pileup, one call, to the antipode. No matter how you look at it, that's just sick! 73, John W3DN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/My-K3-is-Sick-tp7583979.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
I've watched this thread now for several days and finally decided to comment. I have owned several very good rigs in the past and when I bought my first K3 I still owned a FTDX-5000MP and a FTDX-1000 Field well equipped in a SO2R setup using MicroHAM products. I had owned the 5000 for about 2 yrs. the 2nd one delivered in the US I bought the K3 (used) on a whim one day as I wanted to see what they were all about. The 5000 was and still is very close to the top of the pile for transceivers on any lists that count . The K3 I bought had been stripped down to sell all it had was the stock 2.7 5 pole filter and an IF out. The first thing I did was set it up on a A/B switch with the 5000 so all 5 of my antennas could be used by both and making them easy to compare. Long story short after 3 mo. I sold both the 5000 and the 1000 and bought a loaded K3 then had both in the SO2R. You ask why, was it a much better performer, no, ( and yes the second receiver is the best made though) was it the looks, no, none of these things. It was Elecraft the company period support, upgrades, parts for every radio they have ever produced even at times sending you a small part for free. Can you name me a single company that does all of those plus updates for their products always something new or requested thank God for SDR's and companies who really keep up with them and listen to the customer. Hell I could go on for a stupid amount of time and server space but most all reading know all of this already, preaching to the choir. Oh yes I do now own a few other Elecraft products as well, all because of one used radio. 73, Fred/N0AZZ K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 5210--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100 P3/SVGA--KAT500--W2 Amps Elecraft KPA500 HF/6m--Alpha's 9500 HF--87A HF--Mirage B-5030-G 300+w--(2) B-5016-G's 165w 2m -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:37 AM To: mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A confession Mike, I believe if you carefully examine the reports of hiccups, bumps, and whatever, you will find that many (if not most) of them are the result of computer setup with the various logging and rig control applications that users attempt to set up or use with the K3. Another area of frequent problem reports is connections to a digital interface of some sort. These are not K3 problems, but problems users have had setting up and using those applications and accessories and the computer problems which result. The K3 has wisely chosen to 'put its computers' (microprocessors) inside the K3. There are very few real problems with the K3 loaded with production level firmware. There is no dependency on a variety of computers coupled with a variety of operating systems. The Utility programs do need a computer to run, but are normally not needed for other than firmware loads and saving the configuration. The Utility programs do provide several user conveniences for things like loading CW memories more easily than doing it with the K3 alone - use of those added Utility features is optional and is the user's choice. The K3 hardware has been quite solid for a long time now. Yes, there are user questions that come up here frequently that are easily resolved through questions here on the reflector, and yes if you look at the problems that are revealed by those who load beta firmware, you may find some problem reports - but that is what beta firmware is all about, and only those who are willing to try it and report any problems should be using a beta version. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2014 9:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Kit Idea
That is a wonderful idea I certainly 73, Fred/N0AZZ K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 5210--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100 P3/SVGA--KAT500--W2 Amps Elecraft KPA500 HF/6m--Alpha's 9500 HF--87A HF--Mirage B-5030-G 300+w--(2) B-5016-G's 165w 2m would be a buyer as long as NO SMC involved. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K7JLTextra Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:00 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Kit Idea An up converter from 10kHz to 500kHz with typical Elecraft quality would be acceptable by me. I have one already but not of the quality I would expect from the boys in Aptos, so would gladly purchase build their kit. John Hendricks K7JLT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
Hi Nick, Turning on the preamp increases the isolation between the local oscillator and the antenna port. I also wasn't sure if my buzz went away when I turned on the preamp (I couldn't hear it any more) but I used the spectral display of the MixW-Software and the microphone of my laptop to check and I found it didn't go completely away (was still visible in the waterfall) but got much weaker... Greetings Ralf, DL6OAP Am 10.02.2014 um 15:52 schrieb Nicklas Johnson Now that you mention it, I did notice the buzz went away when I turned on the preamp, but I thought it was just my imagination or that the static had just become sufficiently loud that my own hearing wasn't responding to it anymore. Nick On 10 February 2014 03:02, Ralf Wilhelm r...@super-deutschland.net wrote: When I got my KX3, I connected it to a piece of wire lying on the floor for initial testing and was having the same problem, but switching on the ISO amp in the menu solved it for me as did the 8khz feature and turning on the 10dB preamp. Normally the antenna is far away from the wiring and the re-emitted signal is much weaker than the original signal, but if the only signal is the local oscillator, this is possibly not true and the fraction re-emitted by the wiring is stronger than the original local oscillator. -- N6OL Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] My K3 is Sick!
Ain't it fun? Did basically the same thing this morning but instead of my K3, I fired up the KX3 and using my SPLIT macro (sets it up 2KHz). Had it on a non-resonant vertical and forgot to switch over to the beam. Heard a K6 just 2 KHz up from FT5ZM's TX frequency finish and I jumped in with a call -- BINGO! They came right back. First time I've gotten a DXpedition on one call with the KX3. (I've done it a few with the K3/KPA500 combination though.) I've had a lot of people ask me, What good is the P3 anyway? You just proved what I always tell them, If you haven't got one, you'll never believe my answer. Jim - W0EB Sick seems to be the word the kids at the Olympics now use to describe an exceptional performance, as in, Dude, that gold medal run you just did was totally sick! So, I tune in to 10 meters CW this morning to see what FT5ZM is up to. As usual, the pileup is S9 and about 20 khz wide. I'm running my K3 at five watts, into a G5RV wire antenna up about 30 feet. And it's snowing. But, what the heck. I widen the P3 range to see the whole pileup, look for a minute to see where he's listening, punch up my Split macro, and call. Once. Back he comes, first time. 73, John W3DN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] My K3 is Sick!
Sick as a superlative really caught me by surprise. I learned it from my daughter who was 12 at the time. Thirty years earlier it was bad, another lesson in irony. I hope Websters is keeping up. Wayne N6KR Sick seems to be the word the kids at the Olympics now use to describe an exceptional performance, as in, Dude, that gold medal run you just did was totally sick! So, I tune in to 10 meters CW this morning to see what FT5ZM is up to. As usual, the pileup is S9 and about 20 khz wide. I'm running my K3 at five watts, into a G5RV wire antenna up about 30 feet. And it's snowing. But, what the heck. I widen the P3 range to see the whole pileup, look for a minute to see where he's listening, punch up my Split macro, and call. Once. Back he comes, first time. 73, John W3DN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
Interesting, and if I may ask a potentially-dumb question, what do we really mean when we use the word isolation in this context, and how does it provide the benefit of keeping the buzz out of the detector (or to ask the question in the reverse, how does the buzz get in, in the absence of additional isolation)? Nick On 10 February 2014 08:40, Ralf Wilhelm r...@super-deutschland.net wrote: Hi Nick, Turning on the preamp increases the isolation between the local oscillator and the antenna port. I also wasn't sure if my buzz went away when I turned on the preamp (I couldn't hear it any more) but I used the spectral display of the MixW-Software and the microphone of my laptop to check and I found it didn't go completely away (was still visible in the waterfall) but got much weaker... -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3, KAT500, KPA500 Beta Updates
Hi Bill, Thanks for the report. We're also getting good reports on our field-test releases for the KAT500 and K3 that allow the ATU to track the radio's VFO as you move around the band. 73, Wayne N6KR On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:56 AM, Bill W bw39...@yahoo.com wrote: Just wanted to pass along that I have downloaded all the Beta updates for the K3, KAT500 and KPA500 and all works well. I worked some the contest this weekend with no issues. The KAT500 does search a bit more often but seems to find a better match condition in the process which is good in my book. With all the concerns recently expressed, I just wanted to pass along some positive praise to the Elecraft folks. Thanks, Bill - W0BBI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-KAT500-KPA500-Beta-Updates-tp7583968.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Root of problems
I agree with Don W3FPR here. I subscribe to several boards like this and I am finding the same thing. The problems hams are having in general have very little to do with the actual product, but how the ham is interfacing with it. It also seems to me that in this board and others like the HRD board, that the majority of reported problems have something to do with the digital modes. I am always amazed that a ham will go out and buy the latest rig, tower, anteannas, and such and try to run it all on a peanut whistle computer. Believe me when I say after spending my life working with computers everyday, there are a bunch of hams who should not be left alone in a room with a computer. 73 OZ W3OZ Mike, I believe if you carefully examine the reports of hiccups, bumps, and whatever, you will find that many (if not most) of them are the result of computer setup with the various logging and rig control applications that users attempt to set up or use with the K3. Another area of frequent problem reports is connections to a digital interface of some sort. These are not K3 problems, but problems users have had setting up and using those applications and accessories and the computer problems which result. The K3 has wisely chosen to 'put its computers' (microprocessors) inside the K3. There are very few real problems with the K3 loaded with production level firmware. There is no dependency on a variety of computers coupled with a variety of operating systems. The Utility programs do need a computer to run, but are normally not needed for other than firmware loads and saving the configuration. The Utility programs do provide several user conveniences for things like loading CW memories more easily than doing it with the K3 alone - use of those added Utility features is optional and is the user's choice. The K3 hardware has been quite solid for a long time now. Yes, there are user questions that come up here frequently that are easily resolved through questions here on the reflector, and yes if you look at the problems that are revealed by those who load beta firmware, you may find some problem reports - but that is what beta firmware is all about, and only those who are willing to try it and report any problems should be using a beta version. 73, Don W3FPR From: Larry Martus Wassmann Non omnis moriar (Not all of me will die) - - - The good I do will live forever. www.w3oz.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/KAT500 Field test of RX tracking FW
With permission, I'm posting a brief synopsis of my Field Test experiences with the new KAT500 and K3 firmware that allows the KAT500 to track the receiver's VFO. Once it becomes generally available (shortly) be sure to read the FW release notes carefully and follow the instructions. (I didn't and thought I'd broken it right out of the box.) I don't know if it's really necessary, but I loaded the KAT500 first and then the K3. Once the FW is in the K3 you have to go to the menu item KAT3 and tap the 1 key on the keypad to enable the KAT500 (this is a new menu item in this version of the FW). You MUST have the proper 15 pin aux cable connected between the K3 and KAT500 for this feature to work. Once that's done, use the KAT500 Utility Program and clear the memories in the KAT500. Re-train the KAT500 at various points on the bands so you have a good starting point. Then, as you are tuning from one point to another, as you cross a frequency the KAT500 had been trained to, about a half second or so AFTER you stop tuning, the K3 will send the frequency data to the KAT500 over the accessory cable. If the LC combination changes from the previous point, you'll hear the KAT500's relay(s) click and know that it's tuned for that segment. I ran it really hard on 160 and 80 meters this morning and it worked just like I'd hoped it would. There were several places out of the area where I'd trained the KAT500 and it didn't have any memory data to work from that it initiated a tune sequence with the MODE set to AUTO as it should have. Once that tune finished and the data was stored in a memory BIN in the KAT500, the next time I came past that frequency, the ATU tuned itself and no further tuning was needed or initiated. This is going to be absolutely great for contests! Jim - W0EB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
The problem with all receivers using a local oscillator (direct conversion or superhet) is that they emit a small part of the local oscillator power via the mixer to the antenna port (maybe a typical number of L.O. to R.F. Port Isolation of a mixer is 40 dB or something like that). In a superhet, the local oscillator's frequency is far away from the rx frequency and the front end filtering keeps the oscillator signal from leaving the RX. In a direct conversion RX, the oscillator is on the same frequency as the RX. So basically, you have a very little transmitter that is always exactly on your rx frequency. In principle, this signal can be reflected by some structure and get back into the receiver (which would cause a d.c. offset) or in your (and my) case, it can be absorbed by the wiring, modulated by the 60/120 Hz in one of the power supplies and than be re-emitted by the wiring before being received via the antenna. In this case, you receive a carrier plus 60 Hz sidebands, but the carrier is at zero beat so you only hear the sidebands. The additional isolation (the oscillator signal tries to pass the amp in the wrong direction) of the preamp makes the emitted fraction of the local oscillator power maybe 20 dB weaker so that is buried in the atmospheric noise. 73, Ralf, DL6OAP Am 10.02.2014 um 17:49 schrieb Nicklas Johnson n...@n6ol.us: Interesting, and if I may ask a potentially-dumb question, what do we really mean when we use the word isolation in this context, and how does it provide the benefit of keeping the buzz out of the detector (or to ask the question in the reverse, how does the buzz get in, in the absence of additional isolation)? Nick On 10 February 2014 08:40, Ralf Wilhelm r...@super-deutschland.net wrote: Hi Nick, Turning on the preamp increases the isolation between the local oscillator and the antenna port. I also wasn't sure if my buzz went away when I turned on the preamp (I couldn't hear it any more) but I used the spectral display of the MixW-Software and the microphone of my laptop to check and I found it didn't go completely away (was still visible in the waterfall) but got much weaker... -- N6OL Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] PSK31 AND PSK63
I really like the ability of K3 and KX3 (I have both) to code and decode RTTY and PSK31. It is very helpful to work those expeditions without need to change logging software. It was also very helpful when operating from DX locations and being asked for a quick digi QSO. Now here is the question. With proliferation of PSK63 can we hope for an upgrade where PSK63 will be added to these two rigs? 73, Igor UA9CDC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
Makes sense. And that's why the RX SHFT also works, because then the reflected signal is shifted away from the RX frequency by the same amount as the shift. That was a great explanation, and I thank you for it! Another solution in my case, then, might be to just move the antenna further away from the house so the local oscillator's signal isn't mixed with and reflected by the house wiring (and/or whatever may be plugged into it). I noticed that I didn't have the same problem with the inverted-V dipole up on the roof, I imagine in part because it's so much further away from the house wiring (and the house). Nick On 10 February 2014 09:40, Ralf Wilhelm r...@super-deutschland.net wrote: The problem with all receivers using a local oscillator (direct conversion or superhet) is that they emit a small part of the local oscillator power via the mixer to the antenna port (maybe a typical number of L.O. to R.F. Port Isolation of a mixer is 40 dB or something like that). In a superhet, the local oscillator's frequency is far away from the rx frequency and the front end filtering keeps the oscillator signal from leaving the RX. In a direct conversion RX, the oscillator is on the same frequency as the RX. So basically, you have a very little transmitter that is always exactly on your rx frequency. In principle, this signal can be reflected by some structure and get back into the receiver (which would cause a d.c. offset) or in your (and my) case, it can be absorbed by the wiring, modulated by the 60/120 Hz in one of the power supplies and than be re-emitted by the wiring before being received via the antenna. In this case, you receive a carrier plus 60 Hz sidebands, but the carrier is at zero beat so you only hear the sidebands. The additional isolation (the oscillator signal tries to pass the amp in the wrong direction) of the preamp makes the emitted fraction of the local oscillator power maybe 20 dB weaker so that is buried in the atmospheric noise. -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK RTTY Problems
It is Beta. If it doesn't work, roll back to a version that does. On 2/10/2014 7:51 AM, Jim Miller wrote: [snip] Eagerly awaiting a fix!!! 73 jim ab3cv __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK RTTY Problems
Of course... Was just adding to the info. Including the bit about the K3 not honoring the internal tables for KPA500 being attached. jim ab3cv On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Wes (N7WS) w...@triconet.org wrote: It is Beta. If it doesn't work, roll back to a version that does. On 2/10/2014 7:51 AM, Jim Miller wrote: [snip] Eagerly awaiting a fix!!! 73 jim ab3cv __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
Hmmm ... Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. We are not however each entitled to our own facts. The latest K3 Firmware Production Release on the website is 4.67 with a release date of 16 April 2013 -- coming up on a year old. Beta software/firmware versions are versions-in-test. Developers have tested all the changes as best they can. The developer however, is at the less effective end of the testing spectrum, just as proofreading your own compositions usually results in misteaks slipping through. The current K3 Beta Firmware is 4.81, just released. Installing Beta firmware makes you part of the Test Team. You *will* find problems, along with all your comrades on the Beta Test Team. That's not the fault of the developers, it's just life. If you want stable, fully-tested firmware in your radio, don't join the Test Team. My K3 [#642] is running 4.58 which was the Production Release when I installed it, after a fairly lengthy beta test period. It has been completely stable, no hiccups, bumps, or whatever. I read all the release notes for K3 production firmware releases. So far, nothing beyond 4.58 has contained any changes/additions that affect my station configuration. When one comes along that does affect my configuration, I'll evaluate whether or not I need/want the features/capabilities of that release. I have chosen not to join the Elecraft Beta Test Team. Everyone can make the same choice ... or not. It is a choice that each of us get to make, and it, like practically every choice in life, carries consequences. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org . On 2/10/2014 6:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
You have written earlier that you could pull the coax plug half out (disconnecting the shield) and that this also helped. So maybe you have common mode current on the coax which would also increase the coupling to the wiring (because not only the antenna itself but also the coax would emit the local oscillator). Since this could also increase the risk of r.f.i. when you transmit I would recommend that you add a common mode current choke (a few windings of the coax?) close to the rig - and a second one near the antenna perhaps... Greetings Ralf, DL6OAP Am 10.02.2014 um 18:49 schrieb Nicklas Johnson n...@n6ol.us: Makes sense. And that's why the RX SHFT also works, because then the reflected signal is shifted away from the RX frequency by the same amount as the shift. That was a great explanation, and I thank you for it! Another solution in my case, then, might be to just move the antenna further away from the house so the local oscillator's signal isn't mixed with and reflected by the house wiring (and/or whatever may be plugged into it). I noticed that I didn't have the same problem with the inverted-V dipole up on the roof, I imagine in part because it's so much further away from the house wiring (and the house). Nick On 10 February 2014 09:40, Ralf Wilhelm r...@super-deutschland.net wrote: The problem with all receivers using a local oscillator (direct conversion or superhet) is that they emit a small part of the local oscillator power via the mixer to the antenna port (maybe a typical number of L.O. to R.F. Port Isolation of a mixer is 40 dB or something like that). In a superhet, the local oscillator's frequency is far away from the rx frequency and the front end filtering keeps the oscillator signal from leaving the RX. In a direct conversion RX, the oscillator is on the same frequency as the RX. So basically, you have a very little transmitter that is always exactly on your rx frequency. In principle, this signal can be reflected by some structure and get back into the receiver (which would cause a d.c. offset) or in your (and my) case, it can be absorbed by the wiring, modulated by the 60/120 Hz in one of the power supplies and than be re-emitted by the wiring before being received via the antenna. In this case, you receive a carrier plus 60 Hz sidebands, but the carrier is at zero beat so you only hear the sidebands. The additional isolation (the oscillator signal tries to pass the amp in the wrong direction) of the preamp makes the emitted fraction of the local oscillator power maybe 20 dB weaker so that is buried in the atmospheric noise. -- N6OL Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
You can never completely achieve isolation, but as a practical matter Isolation is adequate when feed through of the offending signal is no longer a problem because the circuits involved can handle the magnitude of interference that is present. So the magnitude is subjective. The buzz heard is probably a beat between two oscillators an when the magnitude is reduced to the point you are not offended by it it is gone. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart From: Nicklas Johnson n...@n6ol.us To: Ralf Wilhelm r...@super-deutschland.net Cc: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem Interesting, and if I may ask a potentially-dumb question, what do we really mean when we use the word isolation in this context, and how does it provide the benefit of keeping the buzz out of the detector (or to ask the question in the reverse, how does the buzz get in, in the absence of additional isolation)? Nick On 10 February 2014 08:40, Ralf Wilhelm r...@super-deutschland.net wrote: Hi Nick, Turning on the preamp increases the isolation between the local oscillator and the antenna port. I also wasn't sure if my buzz went away when I turned on the preamp (I couldn't hear it any more) but I used the spectral display of the MixW-Software and the microphone of my laptop to check and I found it didn't go completely away (was still visible in the waterfall) but got much weaker... -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
Ken, Yes,I have a Elecraft radio thank you very much. I misspoke about the display but I have had some issues, not as many as some. I have received help as well. I'm sure there is a tendency to confuse beta with non beta. That's pretty hard to do unless you keep a list. I like the radio, I'd just like it to be more rock solid. Apparently some or many think it already is. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Ken G Kopp kengk...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, It's occurred to me that I should ask ... Do you have / use an Elecraft radio? If so, have you had a firmware ... or display issue with it and did you ask for and / or receive help? I have the impression you're just echoing other poster's comments. On Feb 10, 2014 7:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
Hi Mike ! What would make it more rock solid in your view? What about the radio and / or production firmware isn't? 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:20 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: Ken, Yes,I have a Elecraft radio thank you very much. I misspoke about the display but I have had some issues, not as many as some. I have received help as well. I'm sure there is a tendency to confuse beta with non beta. That's pretty hard to do unless you keep a list. I like the radio, I'd just like it to be more rock solid. Apparently some or many think it already is. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Ken G Kopp kengk...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, It's occurred to me that I should ask ... Do you have / use an Elecraft radio? If so, have you had a firmware ... or display issue with it and did you ask for and / or receive help? I have the impression you're just echoing other poster's comments. On Feb 10, 2014 7:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Unstable Radio? -- Not!
On 2/10/2014 10:20 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: I like the radio, I'd just like it to be more rock solid. Apparently some or many think it already is. Most owners DO consider the K3 to be a mature product with good reliability. That said, NO product that any of us can afford to own without taking a second mortgage on a big house will be 99.999% reliable -- that's MIL-spec reliability, and it comes at FAR greater cost. But the question I find far more telling -- is there another ham rig you can buy and speak directly, via email, with the two owners of the company that designed, built, and sold it, and who have a business model of supporting their products with upgrades that are either free or cheap for as along as they are breathing? 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
Gary.. I sure wish I had a K3/P3 here. I have a TS-590 still with the plastic on the front if you want another..(hint hint..lol) Scott W0SGM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/A-confession-tp7583887p7584000.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
I think that is very likely to be the case, yes. It's worth noting that it is a somewhat badly unbalanced antenna at the moment. Normally it would have a set of el-cheapo tape measures attached as radials, but the weather and time have not been kind to them, so they're not currently attached... the only ground is the actual earth ground at the base of the antenna. So I won't be even a tiny bit surprised to find no shortage of common-mode problems on the shield. I think I keep a spare length of coax around here somewhere that can be readily wound around a coffee can to make a common-mode choke when needed. Will be interesting to see if that is enough to clear up the detection problem, too. Nick On 10 February 2014 10:18, Ralf Wilhelm r...@super-deutschland.net wrote: You have written earlier that you could pull the coax plug half out (disconnecting the shield) and that this also helped. So maybe you have common mode current on the coax which would also increase the coupling to the wiring (because not only the antenna itself but also the coax would emit the local oscillator). Since this could also increase the risk of r.f.i. when you transmit I would recommend that you add a common mode current choke (a few windings of the coax?) close to the rig - and a second one near the antenna perhaps... -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
The LPA board protection for one. This occurs usually when using some amps. The tell tale is reduced output and TX Gain calibration unsuccessfull. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Rose elecraftcov...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike ! What would make it more rock solid in your view? What about the radio and / or production firmware isn't? 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:20 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: Ken, Yes,I have a Elecraft radio thank you very much. I misspoke about the display but I have had some issues, not as many as some. I have received help as well. I'm sure there is a tendency to confuse beta with non beta. That's pretty hard to do unless you keep a list. I like the radio, I'd just like it to be more rock solid. Apparently some or many think it already is. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Ken G Kopp kengk...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, It's occurred to me that I should ask ... Do you have / use an Elecraft radio? If so, have you had a firmware ... or display issue with it and did you ask for and / or receive help? I have the impression you're just echoing other poster's comments. On Feb 10, 2014 7:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] PSK31 AND PSK63
You are all sick if you think that 5 watts from a K3 is some how magically greater than 5 watts from some other brand like Yaesu 5000mp or Kenwood TS590. The brand probably is the least likely variable as to whether you are heard or not. Most modern transmitters are equally as bad as the next. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/My-K3-is-Sick-tp7583979p7584004.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] A confession
I think Chris summarizes the issue pretty good. Gary, it kind sounds like you have not taken the time necessary to really get familiar with your K3 (excuse me if this is incorrect). I found it took me about three weeks of playing and reading the manual until I became fairly comfortable with using the features (only some, not all) of the K3. The Fred Caty manual had not been written so this was a little more difficult on some topics and features, but I figured them out with a little time tinkering and reading. This list is a great resource of knowledge, too! The K3 does require more time to become versed in its abilities and that can try one's patience if just wanting to plug n play. I bought my K3/10 as a kit so had that process before even turning it on. So take it out of the box and connect an antenna, with hopefully Fred's manual at hand, just step thru the pages of the manual and try some of the stuff he writes. Great way to get more familiar with the radio. You might want to skip some chapters if not particular to your interests. Give the radio some time and do compare it on the air with the TS-590. I haven't had my hands on the TS-590 but I suspect you will develop an appreciation for the K3. When I chose the K3 it was after several years of studying the literature and comments. I came from having a TS-180 in 1980, TenTec 505 Argonaut, TS-50, FT-840 (liked that one), and FT-847 (great VHF/UHF but disappointing on HF). I also acquired the FT-817 when it came out. Being active in eme on VHF+, I needed a good CW radio and a transverter friendly radio and that brought me to the K3/10. The fact that is a SDR means I do not have to shell out more money every 2-3 years for the latest advances in radio technology (so far this has been true). I sold my FT-847 to raise cash for a 222 and 432 transverter and finally sold the FT-817 in favor of the KX3. With addition of the 2M module the KX3 will have pretty much replaced what I used with the FT-817. To purchase my K3 I had to promise my wife that this would be the last big ham purchase in my life as we entered retirement (and reduced income). Yeah, I lied, but she understands (thankfully). But I can say the K3 is fulfilling that promise since buying it four years ago. Elecraft is unique in providing equipment support and upgrades (via firmware). And upgrading is purely voluntary on your part, so you do not have to if not interested. Finally, there is a lot of new stuff going on in ham radio if you look, so if the same old stuff' has gotten boring, take a look at some of the digital modes, soundcard programs, come up to VHF/mw or down to MW and LF. Try building some stuff - can be fun! Get out of the house and go portable/mobile. You get the idea. Gary, come back in a few weeks and tells how it goes! 73, Ed - KL7UW 600m to 3cm - From: Chris Pickett chrispick...@blueyonder.co.uk To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] A confession Message-ID: 007EA2BDBDB947DFB83C34C81959B1E5@chrisshack Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gary, Take time out, study the manual learn to embrace the modern features and play, play and play some more to learn your way around. You have taken the tests, passed the exams etc so practice what has been preached. Get rid of the big rice box, keep the TS590s (best value on the ham market today) for back up or field day. Then just fall in love with your K3 - simples. Very 73 Chris M5LRO 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] PSK31 AND PSK63
I beg to differ for one simple reason; many of the K-I-Y transmitters send out a variety of noises, excessive width and IMD, that is not from users overdriving but is the manufacturers simply cheaping out to save money. Elecraft does it right; focus on quality, always. (Go big or go home.) I'd rather focus the RF energy cleanly into the desired spectrum rather than all over the spectrum. No magic involved, it's spectral purity. 73, Rick wa6nhc Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:47 AM, XE3/K5ENS nela...@yahoo.com wrote: You are all sick if you think that 5 watts from a K3 is some how magically greater than 5 watts from some other brand like Yaesu 5000mp or Kenwood TS590. The brand probably is the least likely variable as to whether you are heard or not. Most modern transmitters are equally as bad as the next. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/My-K3-is-Sick-tp7583979p7584004.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
And as I said in a private message to him... Fred's book is a godsend to those that just got an Elecraft K3 or KX3... KK4QDZ - Now with Extra Class Priv's, and a tiny KX3 to enjoy them! From: Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: [Elecraft] A confession I think Chris summarizes the issue pretty good. Gary, it kind sounds like you have not taken the time necessary to really get familiar with your K3 (excuse me if this is incorrect). I found it took me about three weeks of playing and reading the manual until I became fairly comfortable with using the features (only some, not all) of the K3. The Fred Caty manual had not been written so this was a little more difficult on some topics and features, but I figured them out with a little time tinkering and reading. This list is a great resource of knowledge, too! The K3 does require more time to become versed in its abilities and that can try one's patience if just wanting to plug n play. I bought my K3/10 as a kit so had that process before even turning it on. So take it out of the box and connect an antenna, with hopefully Fred's manual at hand, just step thru the pages of the manual and try some of the stuff he writes. Great way to get more familiar with the radio. You might want to skip some chapters if not particular to your interests. Give the radio some time and do compare it on the air with the TS-590. I haven't had my hands on the TS-590 but I suspect you will develop an appreciation for the K3. When I chose the K3 it was after several years of studying the literature and comments. I came from having a TS-180 in 1980, TenTec 505 Argonaut, TS-50, FT-840 (liked that one), and FT-847 (great VHF/UHF but disappointing on HF). I also acquired the FT-817 when it came out. Being active in eme on VHF+, I needed a good CW radio and a transverter friendly radio and that brought me to the K3/10. The fact that is a SDR means I do not have to shell out more money every 2-3 years for the latest advances in radio technology (so far this has been true). I sold my FT-847 to raise cash for a 222 and 432 transverter and finally sold the FT-817 in favor of the KX3. With addition of the 2M module the KX3 will have pretty much replaced what I used with the FT-817. To purchase my K3 I had to promise my wife that this would be the last big ham purchase in my life as we entered retirement (and reduced income). Yeah, I lied, but she understands (thankfully). But I can say the K3 is fulfilling that promise since buying it four years ago. Elecraft is unique in providing equipment support and upgrades (via firmware). And upgrading is purely voluntary on your part, so you do not have to if not interested. Finally, there is a lot of new stuff going on in ham radio if you look, so if the same old stuff' has gotten boring, take a look at some of the digital modes, soundcard programs, come up to VHF/mw or down to MW and LF. Try building some stuff - can be fun! Get out of the house and go portable/mobile. You get the idea. Gary, come back in a few weeks and tells how it goes! 73, Ed - KL7UW 600m to 3cm - From: Chris Pickett chrispick...@blueyonder.co.uk To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] A confession Message-ID: 007EA2BDBDB947DFB83C34C81959B1E5@chrisshack Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gary, Take time out, study the manual learn to embrace the modern features and play, play and play some more to learn your way around. You have taken the tests, passed the exams etc so practice what has been preached. Get rid of the big rice box, keep the TS590s (best value on the ham market today) for back up or field day. Then just fall in love with your K3 - simples. Very 73 Chris M5LRO 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
If someone is not intimately familiar with the K3's behavior, and prepared to look for and document bugs, I don't understand why they would install BETA firmware. I've had limited operational time with my K3/P3 and therefore would be uncertain if behavior was a bug or cockpit error. My interest is occasional contesting and 6m. Running beta firmware is not consistent with my activities. I updated once about a year after the radio was put into service, and will do again because there's a feature in the latest vers that I want. It's unclear from postings whether the issues are related to beta firmware releases or not. If they are, then you got what you signed up for! 73, Josh W6XU On 2/10/2014 6:01 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem
Check your light bulbs, especially if using CFL or LED. I have had both emitting bad noise. Shutting them off rid my whole station of the issue. Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nicklas Johnson Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:11 PM To: mzil...@roadrunner.com; elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3: nearby noise post-mortem I should have mentioned this specifically, but I was operating the KX3 strictly from batteries at the time. Connecting a 13.8V source to it (one that was plugged into the house power) didn't really change whether the 'buzz' was present or not. The only thing that changed it was either unplugging the offending power supply, or de-energizing that circuit in the house (by tripping the breaker). I guess it's not impossible that the thing was putting off a lot more energy than I thought, and I was picking up a lot of common-mode noise on the cable shield-- a lot more than I thought I would/should. Good ideas though. Nick On 9 February 2014 20:05, Matt Zilmer mzil...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hi Nick, After reading your reply, I think I have an idea. I've had the same problem in a mobile setting, where good grounds are scarce and there is a lot of transient noise around. If -somehow- the noise put off by the charger were to get onto the 12V line into the KX3, you might get this effect. I don't see how this could happen though. -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] PSK31 AND PSK63
With only about 8000 K3's and what 3 or 4+ million other radios. I don't think the Ham world cares much about that. And those 8000 aren't making much difference on the air. But drink another glass of Kool-Aid and you might even think because the K3 uses less power it's going to solve global warming. Besides isn't that the whole point in having that mega station so every one can hear you. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/My-K3-is-Sick-tp7583979p7584012.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Root of problems
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 2/10/2014 9:14 AM, Larry Wassmann wrote: the majority of reported problems have something to do with the digital modes. I am always amazed that a ham will go out and buy the latest rig, tower, anteannas, and such and try to run it all on a peanut whistle computer. Believe me when I say after spending my life working with computers everyday, there are a bunch of hams who should not be left alone in a room with a computer. REPLY: Peanut whistle computer? I've been using digital modes, RTTY and others, since 1993 and I have yet to find a computer that will not run these digital programs satisfactorily. None of the digital modes presently being used by hams demand much of a computer as long as it can run Windows XP or later and has enough com ports. Having said that however, I agree with the very last part of your post. Some people have endless problems with computers and need help with even the simplest things. I have a non-ham friend who calls me about once a week with problems, most of which are repeats of previous calls. He is a smart guy but just has a mental block about computers. Sigh. 73, Bill W6WRT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Kit Idea
Another vote for this one. Elwood, WB0OEW An up converter from 10kHz to 500kHz with typical Elecraft quality would be acceptable by me. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Kit Idea
I should have been more clear. I'd like a transverter for that band not merely an upconverter. Bonus points for internal still apply! 73 jim ab3cv On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote: Bonus points for fitting in place of the 2 meter transverter!! Although I'd settle for just the 630M band coverage. 73 jim ab3cv On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:59 AM, K7JLTextra k7jltex...@gmail.com wrote: An up converter from 10kHz to 500kHz with typical Elecraft quality would be acceptable by me. I have one already but not of the quality I would expect from the boys in Aptos, so would gladly purchase build their kit. John Hendricks K7JLT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Anyone have an excess P3?
I'm interested in getting a P3 and need to find a used one that has no issues, to save some money. If you have one that fits the bill please contact me directly. 73, Gary KA1J Gary at ka1j dot com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
You still haven't explained what you feel isn't rock solid about the radio ... Dave AB7E On 2/10/2014 11:20 AM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote: Ken, Yes,I have a Elecraft radio thank you very much. I misspoke about the display but I have had some issues, not as many as some. I have received help as well. I'm sure there is a tendency to confuse beta with non beta. That's pretty hard to do unless you keep a list. I like the radio, I'd just like it to be more rock solid. Apparently some or many think it already is. 73 Mike R __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Kit Idea
I'd buy one regardless if or not it was internal or external, if it was a transverter or simply a receive upconverter... On 2/10/2014 2:44 PM, Jim Miller wrote: I should have been more clear. I'd like a transverter for that band not merely an upconverter. Bonus points for internal still apply! thanks much and 73, ben, kd5byb __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 -- Want P3-Like Display on a Mac
Sorry if this has been on the reflector before but the searches I've done didn't really home in on what I am looking for. I've owned my K3 for nearly four years. Adding the P3 to it made operating so much more enjoyable, for a variety of reasons that I need not get into here. I recently got a KX3 as a Christmas present from the XYL and have been busy integrating it into my desktop environment. I've got it on a coax switch so that I can share not only my various antennas, but also my dummy load and the KAT500 and KPA500 if I so desire. Operating the KX3 is lots of fun, barefoot or QRO. But, I miss the panoramic band display I see when I use the K3/P3. What is out there that I might be able to use with the KX3 and it's RX IQ? I'm using an iMac with OS X 10.7.5 for my operating system. I do have VMWare Fusion, but would rather not have to run a Windows application on the emulator - native mode applications are my desire. Is there software that can use the RX IQ, possibly into a USB port, that will give me the band display that I'm used to with the P3? Spending a bazillion dollars on it is out of the question, so I'm hoping that there is an inexpensive solution. Thanks, Jim / W6JHB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 ERR IOA IOB
Hi Don and All, Just to keep you updated about my KX3 problem. Now I put a piece of plastic separating the two side of the box. It was an advice from a friend and a KX3 user. Anyway, now the behavior of the radio is exactly the same as three months ago when I bought it. I can hear the relays being activated when I turn on the radio or switch bands. I am not sure if the problem is solved. I will monitor the radio behavior. Until next report. PS: I am still using the original flex cable. Thanks again for the attention. 73. Ricardo. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-ERR-IOA-IOB-tp7566041p7584020.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK RTTY Problems
Jim, I have a newer field-test release, 4.83, that fixes the primary problem of power-setting in RTTY mode (FSK-D). While I still have little more work to do to get power to settle quickly, 9 out of 10 ops testing 4.83 said it was working well enough for their needs. (Definitely fixes the problem from 4.81, which was *also* tested by a lot of ops, but they all missed this problem somehow. That's why we do beta before production….) I'll send you a copy. 73, Wayne N6KR On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:51 AM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote: Similar to others I had major problems with FSK-D RTTY with the latest beta firmware this weekend on my K3 #1210. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 -- Want P3-Like Display on a Mac
Jim, On the panoramic display question, I recall last year at Dayton the KX3 I/Q outputs were driving an iMic to an iPad. I believe the software came from Pignology, but I did not pay that much attention to the details, so you may have to do some searching. So the answer is, yes, a panadapter display from the KX3 is possible, but unfortunately I do not have details. NaP3 can also give a panadapter display, but I have not yet tried it. Most any panadapter application that will accept I/Q output could be used in theory - the other side of the coin is 'does that application directly support the KX3'. That would be in regard to the rig control and display of center frequency type questions. Most any panadapter application can display the spectrum around the VFO center frequency, but may not display the exact frequency the KX3 is tuned to if no other communications with the radio are present to determine the center frequency, the VFO A and VFO B settings, etc. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2014 4:52 PM, Jim Bennett wrote: Operating the KX3 is lots of fun, barefoot or QRO. But, I miss the panoramic band display I see when I use the K3/P3. What is out there that I might be able to use with the KX3 and it's RX IQ? I'm using an iMac with OS X 10.7.5 for my operating system. I do have VMWare Fusion, but would rather not have to run a Windows application on the emulator - native mode applications are my desire. Is there software that can use the RX IQ, possibly into a USB port, that will give me the band display that I'm used to with the P3? Spending a bazillion dollars on it is out of the question, so I'm hoping that there is an inexpensive solution. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A confession
Friends, Surely you can understand that there are going to be hiccups with Beta firmware.I seldom use Beta Firmware because I want to avoid hiccups. Then even with the final version of the update there are people using the products in so many different iterations that there may well be items they wish were different.Perhaps these too are hiccups.I think you would find the same thing with the TT Orion II which I presently own.Perhaps the major difference being that Elecraft continues to develop the K3 while I think the Orion II is passing from production. I am so grateful for the development policy of Elecraft. If I thought the K3 was shortly to be bypassed by a newer rig then I would not have encouraged a good French Ham friend to purchase one.It greatly pleases me to see that the K2 is approaching 7k something with its number and that the K3 has passed 8K for serial number. I also use the KX1 and KX3. The KX1 is not so much an SDR though it too has been updated - nice wee rig.I must admit that what Wayne said is true the KX3 is not much larger. Perhaps twice the volume but all bands and modes with a speaker - it does it all.I managed FT5ZM this morning on 12M CW running 5 W using this great rig. This on the third call. So with respect Elecraft let the wind blow through your hair and continue along the path you have pioneered. You are blowing them all to the side. No obsolescence, oh I like your approach. For me the reason to own a K3 is almost as much the company as the radio. You guys have a great philosophy and approach to engineering. One man's opinion and others have theirs.I learn from all of you. Enjoy your radios and keep up the commentary. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com Sent: 10 February 2014 14:01 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A confession The major thing he alluded to, I agree with. Elecraft needs more stable firmware and displays. I may be wrong but it seems there are too many instances of hiccups, bumps or whatever. I have a friend looking to buy and did not recommend the k3 without those disclaimers. 73 Mike R RIP- Mr 500. STP's Andy Granatelli from racing fans everywhere. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 -- Want P3-Like Display on a Mac
If you want to run something natively on the Mac, I would suggest quisk: http://james.ahlstrom.name/quisk/ I haven't tried it yet myself, but it appears to allow some level of integration with the KX3 by means of hamlib. In order to build it and get it working, you'll need to install some additional libraries -- I'd suggest to use MacPorts for this: https://www.macports.org If you are not comfortable building software on your Mac, then the only other native option I know of is the DL2SDR program: http://dl2sdr.homepage.t-online.de/ 73, Matt VK2RQ On 11 Feb 2014, at 10:05 am, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Jim, On the panoramic display question, I recall last year at Dayton the KX3 I/Q outputs were driving an iMic to an iPad. I believe the software came from Pignology, but I did not pay that much attention to the details, so you may have to do some searching. So the answer is, yes, a panadapter display from the KX3 is possible, but unfortunately I do not have details. NaP3 can also give a panadapter display, but I have not yet tried it. Most any panadapter application that will accept I/Q output could be used in theory - the other side of the coin is 'does that application directly support the KX3'. That would be in regard to the rig control and display of center frequency type questions. Most any panadapter application can display the spectrum around the VFO center frequency, but may not display the exact frequency the KX3 is tuned to if no other communications with the radio are present to determine the center frequency, the VFO A and VFO B settings, etc. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2014 4:52 PM, Jim Bennett wrote: Operating the KX3 is lots of fun, barefoot or QRO. But, I miss the panoramic band display I see when I use the K3/P3. What is out there that I might be able to use with the KX3 and it's RX IQ? I'm using an iMac with OS X 10.7.5 for my operating system. I do have VMWare Fusion, but would rather not have to run a Windows application on the emulator - native mode applications are my desire. Is there software that can use the RX IQ, possibly into a USB port, that will give me the band display that I'm used to with the P3? Spending a bazillion dollars on it is out of the question, so I'm hoping that there is an inexpensive solution. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] For sale LP-PAN EMU 0202 for K3
Both look and work fine. But I now have a P3. LP-PAN serial #66. External EMU-0202. Cables included between 0202 and LP-PAN plus USB cable from 0202. $220 includes shipping CONUS. Paypal or check. N2TK, Tony __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] PR6 for sale
Used PR6, but works like new. Includes PR6, plus new still in bag both BNC adapters and Power Cable assembly #E850348. Includes shipping in the US. $100. Paypal or check please. 73, N2TK, Tony __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 / P3 Loaded and in superb condition for sale
I recently decided to concentrate on single band contesting (vs. SO2R) from my new western Colorado QTH thus one of my beloved Elecraft transceivers is surplus to my needs. I purchased my K3 (sn 03489) and P3 (sn 1385) assembled from Elecraft. They are in superb condition. In addition to the photo on eHam (in classifieds) I can supply more photos on request. K3/100-F K3 100W transceiver - assembled KAT3-F ATU factory installed KRX3 2nd rx KBPF3 general coverage rx module KDVR3 digital voice recorder 2x KLF3A-2.8K 8-pole filter 2x KFL3A-1.8K 8-pole filter 2x KFL3A-250 8-pole filter 2x KFL3A-400 8-pole filter 2x KFL3A-6K 8-pole filter KTCX03-1 0.5-ppm KXV3A ant/IF out/xvrtr interface PR6 low noise 6M pre-amp K144XV-F Internal 2 M 10w Module K3 also has the wonderful third party weighted VFO knob. IF filters were matched when available. P3 Panadapter/sn 1385 P3SVGA I have the original factory boxes for the K3 but have misplaced the P3 boxes. Original manuals and all cables. I sent the K3 back to Aptos for upgrading to the latest hardware mods, as far as I know it is completely up to date. I don\'t allow smoking in my shack. Don't miss this opportunity to pick up the ultimate contest and DX radio at a steep discount! Pick up in Grand Junction, Colorado or I can ship to you via UPS or USPS. PayPal preferred however I can accept credit cards or personal check (allow for clearance). This would cost you over $6,000 today if your purchased from Elecraft. Asking $3,999 plus shipping and insurance. 73 Bill AA7XT ex-AA4XT ex-AA6TT ex-NT1Y Blog AA7XT.com ARRL, CSVHF AMSAT Life Member UKSMG QCWA Member 1st licensed 1969 - WN6NDC 1st W to OH0 6m QSO 1st North America to Asia 60m QSO Founder TopBand email reflector Tel +1 (970) 628-5120 Email bill.aa...@gmail.com Loc: DM59pa AIM / iChat / iMessage william.h...@me.com Skype williamhein __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Root of problems
When I first saw peanut whistle, I assumed that Larry was talking about QRP rigs. Then I re-read what he had written. Maybe not so much today, since a computer has become such an integral part of the hamshack, but there was a time 10 or so years ago that guys would scour the swapmeets and buy some obsolete (to me) computer for the shack. Maybe then it was just to have a computer for logging, but today there are myriad uses for a computer. I say obsolete to me because I spent 30+ years as a software developer. During that time, I saw many lay people who should never touch a keyboard. I'm not necessarily talking about the clerical staff, but folks with advanced degrees, as well. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 2/10/2014 11:52 AM, Bill Turner wrote: ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 2/10/2014 9:14 AM, Larry Wassmann wrote: the majority of reported problems have something to do with the digital modes. I am always amazed that a ham will go out and buy the latest rig, tower, anteannas, and such and try to run it all on a peanut whistle computer. Believe me when I say after spending my life working with computers everyday, there are a bunch of hams who should not be left alone in a room with a computer. REPLY: Peanut whistle computer? I've been using digital modes, RTTY and others, since 1993 and I have yet to find a computer that will not run these digital programs satisfactorily. None of the digital modes presently being used by hams demand much of a computer as long as it can run Windows XP or later and has enough com ports. Having said that however, I agree with the very last part of your post. Some people have endless problems with computers and need help with even the simplest things. I have a non-ham friend who calls me about once a week with problems, most of which are repeats of previous calls. He is a smart guy but just has a mental block about computers. Sigh. 73, Bill W6WRT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Root of problems
True that all modern ham-digital modes can be decoded on a bare-bones PC. However its the software suite that provides rig control, spotting, digital modes, logging, propagation, kitchen sink, fast food order status, etc etc etc is what makes even a modest computer turn into a chuggy drive-thrashing monster. You add any Panadapter software to this mix and you need a modern gaming machine to keep up. I used to only use a netbook in the shack. Then I needed more horsepower for the software. Now I have a desktop with 2 monitors and I still (at times) need more horsepower. Frank KG6EYC Currently with 2 monitors and /still/ need more desktop real-estate! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Root of problems
I solved the real estate problem Bought a 39 inch 4k resolution monitor for less than 500 bucks. That plus my 30 rotated vertically takes care of this nicely lol..! Original message From: Frank Precissi vad...@gmail.com Date: 10/02/2014 20:27 (GMT-05:00) To: Cc: Elecraft Group elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Root of problems True that all modern ham-digital modes can be decoded on a bare-bones PC. However its the software suite that provides rig control, spotting, digital modes, logging, propagation, kitchen sink, fast food order status, etc etc etc is what makes even a modest computer turn into a chuggy drive-thrashing monster. You add any Panadapter software to this mix and you need a modern gaming machine to keep up. I used to only use a netbook in the shack. Then I needed more horsepower for the software. Now I have a desktop with 2 monitors and I still (at times) need more horsepower. Frank KG6EYC Currently with 2 monitors and /still/ need more desktop real-estate! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Root of problems
I hate you guys that have room on your desks for those monster monitors! I can just barely fit a pair of ACER 22 inchers and an old Lenovo 15 square (for the P3/SVGA) on mine and have room for everything else I need on the shelf. Jim, W0EB Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Tom tom...@videotron.ca wrote: I solved the real estate problem Bought a 39 inch 4k resolution monitor for less than 500 bucks. That plus my 30 rotated vertically takes care of this nicely lol..! Original message From: Frank Precissi vad...@gmail.com Date: 10/02/2014 20:27 (GMT-05:00) To: Cc: Elecraft Group elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Root of problems True that all modern ham-digital modes can be decoded on a bare-bones PC. However its the software suite that provides rig control, spotting, digital modes, logging, propagation, kitchen sink, fast food order status, etc etc etc is what makes even a modest computer turn into a chuggy drive-thrashing monster. You add any Panadapter software to this mix and you need a modern gaming machine to keep up. I used to only use a netbook in the shack. Then I needed more horsepower for the software. Now I have a desktop with 2 monitors and I still (at times) need more horsepower. Frank KG6EYC Currently with 2 monitors and /still/ need more desktop real-estate! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 -- Want P3-Like Display on a Mac
Hi Matt, Thanks for the info. After I thought about it a bit, running an application on Win/XP under Fusion wouldn't be all that bad. My iMac is pretty powerful and has no problem grinding up anything I toss at it. The problem I've seen is that nearly every application I come across tries to be the be-all, do-all rig controller. All I want is a simple spectrum display, like the P3 gives me. I have no desire to try controlling the KX3 from the computer. I use MacLoggerDX - it has some rudimentary rig control features but I don't use any of them. My fondness for the P3 is (1) being able to see where band activity is and (2) where there is a hole when trying to work a DX station running split. So - any other suggestions? Isn't it feasible to simply take the I/Q output from the KX3 and run it via a USB port into the mac and have a software application use that data to present a spectrum display? Or am I being naive on what data is contained in that I/Q stream? Jim / W6JHB On Feb 10, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ wrote: If you want to run something natively on the Mac, I would suggest quisk: http://james.ahlstrom.name/quisk/ I haven't tried it yet myself, but it appears to allow some level of integration with the KX3 by means of hamlib. In order to build it and get it working, you'll need to install some additional libraries -- I'd suggest to use MacPorts for this: https://www.macports.org If you are not comfortable building software on your Mac, then the only other native option I know of is the DL2SDR program: http://dl2sdr.homepage.t-online.de/ 73, Matt VK2RQ On 11 Feb 2014, at 10:05 am, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Jim, On the panoramic display question, I recall last year at Dayton the KX3 I/Q outputs were driving an iMic to an iPad. I believe the software came from Pignology, but I did not pay that much attention to the details, so you may have to do some searching. So the answer is, yes, a panadapter display from the KX3 is possible, but unfortunately I do not have details. NaP3 can also give a panadapter display, but I have not yet tried it. Most any panadapter application that will accept I/Q output could be used in theory - the other side of the coin is 'does that application directly support the KX3'. That would be in regard to the rig control and display of center frequency type questions. Most any panadapter application can display the spectrum around the VFO center frequency, but may not display the exact frequency the KX3 is tuned to if no other communications with the radio are present to determine the center frequency, the VFO A and VFO B settings, etc. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2014 4:52 PM, Jim Bennett wrote: Operating the KX3 is lots of fun, barefoot or QRO. But, I miss the panoramic band display I see when I use the K3/P3. What is out there that I might be able to use with the KX3 and it's RX IQ? I'm using an iMac with OS X 10.7.5 for my operating system. I do have VMWare Fusion, but would rather not have to run a Windows application on the emulator - native mode applications are my desire. Is there software that can use the RX IQ, possibly into a USB port, that will give me the band display that I'm used to with the P3? Spending a bazillion dollars on it is out of the question, so I'm hoping that there is an inexpensive solution. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Root of problems
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 2/10/2014 5:27 PM, Frank Precissi wrote: is what makes even a modest computer turn into a chuggy drive-thrashing monster. REPLY: More RAM will cure most of those problems. Even my ancient HP DC7700, which goes back to the stone age and has only 1 GB RAM, runs fine on all the digital programs. Cost $99 refurbished, including the OS. Right now I am running four separate programs with 14 windows open (active and minimized) including my email program, without a hiccup. Windows 7 Pro. It can be done. 73, Bill W6WRT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] curious behavior of the K3/P3, etc.
Now before you guys think I too am complaining--no, I just have a curious mind! Two questions that I am sure you more experienced can help me with: 1. When I begin narrowing the DSP down, on filter 1 (2.7, std, offset -0.84) only the lower freq side moves. The DSP switches to the 2.1 filter, reacting the same, but when it narrows to about 1.10 (within filter 2; 2.1, offset 0.0) it changes so that both low and high move equally. Even narrowing continues through the 700 and 400 Hz filters. The reverse occurs in the same way. I have checked the offsets with the K3 program, and they are set as required. On the K-3 display the bar-thing always seems to move equally on both sides. Is this normal? 2. When seen on the P-3, on hi-cut-lo, if I move the lo side, the higher freq side moves, and if I move the hi side, the lower freq side moves. On the K-3 display the expected side moves. Again, is this normal? I have the last production software installed. This was first noticed when I got the P3 and a big screen, when in a contest I wanted to shift the receiver up to avoid a disturbing signal and found I had to move the hi side to move the lo side! Now I am accustomed and just watch my screen to make sure I am moving outside of the interfering peak. These only bother me because I know there must be a reason but I don't why it happens! If curiosity is going to kill the cat, don't tell me and I will just continue to be happy with my partial K-line! Thanks for your patience, Scott AA0AA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3]: AM filter question
I was tidying up the shack yesterday, and came upon a box with the Elecraft label. Curious, I looked inside and found a couple of wire antennas from PAR Electronics that I bought at Dayton and not one, but two, 6 kHz AM filters for the K3. Apparently I didn't install one when I ordered the FM filter, which also works for AM, and bought another at some point in time, not realizing that I had one already. I do have the KRX3 2nd RX, but can't really think of an occasion where I'd need to work split with AM. If not, I'll have one for sale, NIB. I think that someone said $115 is a fair price? 73 de Jim - AD6CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] W4SMT K3 S-Meter
OK, I tried this. Fairly cool! Doesn't work in contests when N1MM owns the CAT, but all the other times, it just does work. I'm pretty much CW, I pretty much run the CWT, so I see nothing on the S-meter above S9. Now, I've been in this hobby for 60 years, I know none of this really matters, but seeing an S-Meter that looks vaguely like the one on my SX-28 as a teenager is sort of cool. Still trying to figure out what the dB/uv scale under the S-scale means. I calibrated my K3 S-meter to S9 = -73dBm using my service monitor which hasn't been calibrated in at least 2 decades. Hey, this is amateur radio, just having fun here. P3 tracks with the K3 S-meter which is reassuring. If W4SMT is listening, would be great to be able to fool with the averaging, like the P3. On the other hand, I couldn't do that on my SX-28, so nothing lost there. Google W4SMT S-meter, you'll get a lot of posts [probably including this one], but the app is in there somewhere. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] W4SMT K3 S-Meter
For what it's worth: The DXLab Commander program also reads the K3 S-meter in digital form. Works great. 73, Bill W6WRT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Help setting up K3 w N1MM
I am looking for advice in how to set up my K3 with N1MM incorporating rig control at least to the extent of having the radio control the logging frequency and mode shown in N1MM primarily for AFSK RTTY using just the Elecraft USB to serial adapter cable (in addition to the audio in/out connections to the computer sound card).I have had no problem setting up for Digital and CW without any K3 to N1MM control interaction other than ptt and cw keying. The K3 Utility works fine. The digital engine is MMTTY. Page 84 of the KE7X K3 manual suggests that what I want to do is possible. Help! Dave, K2YG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Help setting up K3 w N1MM
Dave, the thing that sometimes gives grief is the operating system. I have no difficulty with the XP operating system, but when I upgraded my computer to WIN 7 I could not get my serial adapter to work. The word that I got was that there was a chance to get the FTDI chip set to work, but the Prolific chip set in the less expensive adapters would not work. I could not find adapters that guaranteed the FTDI chip set so I elected to buy a RS-232 serial card for my computer and it has worked flawlessly. My experience was when WIN 7 was very new, so you can probably get a good FTDI driver now for a premium, but not un-affordable price. I would spend a bit more for a real RS-232 card. I have a new WIN 7 lap top and I have not yet approached the problem with it. If I can find a bus to RS-232 device I will buy it and avoid USB conversion all together. The problem seems to be that the USB converters do not convert all the connections for full featured RS-232. Probably Elecraft has a solution by now, but they did not when I purchased my first WIN 7 computer and I have heard rumors that WIN 8 has problems of its own. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart From: Dave Barr record...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:39 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Help setting up K3 w N1MM I am looking for advice in how to set up my K3 with N1MM incorporating rig control at least to the extent of having the radio control the logging frequency and mode shown in N1MM primarily for AFSK RTTY using just the Elecraft USB to serial adapter cable (in addition to the audio in/out connections to the computer sound card). I have had no problem setting up for Digital and CW without any K3 to N1MM control interaction other than ptt and cw keying. The K3 Utility works fine. The digital engine is MMTTY. Page 84 of the KE7X K3 manual suggests that what I want to do is possible. Help! Dave, K2YG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 -- Want P3-Like Display on a Mac
If you are happy to run Windows XP under VMWare, then NaP3 will give you a good experience. I briefly had a closer look at Quisk -- the problem is that is depends on ALSA sound libraries, and since macports doesn't support this, a little bit of hacking is required to remove this dependency and rely solely on the portaudio libraries. There would also some (trivial) changes required to remove dependencies on the linux parallel port driver. Not sure if someone has already gone through this exercise yet or not. Otherwise, you would need some basic coding skills to make it work. The I/Q output needs to be fed into a soundcard with stereo capability -- this soundcard could be a USB soundcard such as the Soundblaster X-Fi. Most of the PC SDR applications can then use this to display a waterfall. The I/Q streams don't contain digital data or anything fancy like that, rather they are simple analogue signals. This is why you need a soundcard or other A/D convterter to digitise the signal in order to for the SDR application to process it. It is convenient to have some basic integration with the radio (ie. via the KXUSB or KXSER cable) so that the application can read the VFO frequency from the radio and display appropriate frequency labels on the spectrum/waterfall display, but this is a nice-to-have. 73, Matt VK2RQ On 11 Feb 2014, at 1:32 pm, Jim Bennett w6...@mac.com wrote: Hi Matt, Thanks for the info. After I thought about it a bit, running an application on Win/XP under Fusion wouldn't be all that bad. My iMac is pretty powerful and has no problem grinding up anything I toss at it. The problem I've seen is that nearly every application I come across tries to be the be-all, do-all rig controller. All I want is a simple spectrum display, like the P3 gives me. I have no desire to try controlling the KX3 from the computer. I use MacLoggerDX - it has some rudimentary rig control features but I don't use any of them. My fondness for the P3 is (1) being able to see where band activity is and (2) where there is a hole when trying to work a DX station running split. So - any other suggestions? Isn't it feasible to simply take the I/Q output from the KX3 and run it via a USB port into the mac and have a software application use that data to present a spectrum display? Or am I being naive on what data is contained in that I/Q stream? Jim / W6JHB On Feb 10, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ wrote: If you want to run something natively on the Mac, I would suggest quisk: http://james.ahlstrom.name/quisk/ I haven't tried it yet myself, but it appears to allow some level of integration with the KX3 by means of hamlib. In order to build it and get it working, you'll need to install some additional libraries -- I'd suggest to use MacPorts for this: https://www.macports.org If you are not comfortable building software on your Mac, then the only other native option I know of is the DL2SDR program: http://dl2sdr.homepage.t-online.de/ 73, Matt VK2RQ On 11 Feb 2014, at 10:05 am, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Jim, On the panoramic display question, I recall last year at Dayton the KX3 I/Q outputs were driving an iMic to an iPad. I believe the software came from Pignology, but I did not pay that much attention to the details, so you may have to do some searching. So the answer is, yes, a panadapter display from the KX3 is possible, but unfortunately I do not have details. NaP3 can also give a panadapter display, but I have not yet tried it. Most any panadapter application that will accept I/Q output could be used in theory - the other side of the coin is 'does that application directly support the KX3'. That would be in regard to the rig control and display of center frequency type questions. Most any panadapter application can display the spectrum around the VFO center frequency, but may not display the exact frequency the KX3 is tuned to if no other communications with the radio are present to determine the center frequency, the VFO A and VFO B settings, etc. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2014 4:52 PM, Jim Bennett wrote: Operating the KX3 is lots of fun, barefoot or QRO. But, I miss the panoramic band display I see when I use the K3/P3. What is out there that I might be able to use with the KX3 and it's RX IQ? I'm using an iMac with OS X 10.7.5 for my operating system. I do have VMWare Fusion, but would rather not have to run a Windows application on the emulator - native mode applications are my desire. Is there software that can use the RX IQ, possibly into a USB port, that will give me the band display that I'm used to with the P3? Spending a bazillion dollars on it is out of the question, so I'm hoping that there is an inexpensive solution. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: