[Elecraft] Current version of Windows K3 Utility ?

2014-02-28 Thread Buzz Dean
The K3UtilityVersionInfo.txt file that came with K3 firmware MCU 04.83
states that 1.4.3.21 is the most current Windows K3 Utility version. Yet
1.13.5.9 is the K3 Utility production version according to
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#k3util  Assuming this was a web
page mistake, I hunted for 1.4.3.21 version of K3 Utility with no joy in
either production or beta space.
What's the correct version of K3 Utility to use to install K3 firmware
04.83, and where is it living (hiding?)

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Re: [Elecraft] Current version of Windows K3 Utility ?

2014-02-28 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The current version of the Windows K3 Utility is on our web site page
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

The K3UtilityVersionInfo.txt file is stale.  I'll try to get that changed.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Buzz Dean
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Current version of Windows K3 Utility ?

The K3UtilityVersionInfo.txt file that came with K3 firmware MCU 04.83
states that 1.4.3.21 is the most current Windows K3 Utility version. Yet
1.13.5.9 is the K3 Utility production version according to
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#k3util  Assuming this was a web
page mistake, I hunted for 1.4.3.21 version of K3 Utility with no joy in
either production or beta space.
What's the correct version of K3 Utility to use to install K3 firmware
04.83, and where is it living (hiding?)

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Re: [Elecraft] Current version of Windows K3 Utility ?

2014-02-28 Thread Buzz Dean
Mille graci Didn't want to risk bricking another favorite this week.
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On Feb 28, 2014, at 01:53, Dick Dievendorff d...@elecraft.com wrote:

The current version of the Windows K3 Utility is on our web site page
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

The K3UtilityVersionInfo.txt file is stale.  I'll try to get that changed.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Buzz Dean
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 0:06 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Current version of Windows K3 Utility ?

The K3UtilityVersionInfo.txt file that came with K3 firmware MCU 04.83
states that 1.4.3.21 is the most current Windows K3 Utility version. Yet
1.13.5.9 is the K3 Utility production version according to
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#k3util  Assuming this was a web
page mistake, I hunted for 1.4.3.21 version of K3 Utility with no joy in
either production or beta space.
What's the correct version of K3 Utility to use to install K3 firmware
04.83, and where is it living (hiding?)

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Re: [Elecraft] Current version of Windows K3 Utility ?

2014-02-28 Thread Scott Manthe
I ran the current update with the wrong version of the K3 Utility and 
while the rig was bricked temporarily, it came back to life with no 
issues after I discovered the problem.


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 2/28/14 9:14 AM, Buzz Dean wrote:

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Re: [Elecraft] Current version of Windows K3 Utility ?

2014-02-28 Thread Mike Markowski
I did the same a few days ago using an out of date linux K3 Utility.  What
a bad feeling.  :-o

I wonder if the firmware can be distributed with a file (or somehow with
info) indicating the minimum K3 Utility version number required.  That way
an out of date K3 Utility can complain about its aged decrepitness and not
even try to do an update that will fail.
73,
Mike ab3ap
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Scott Manthe scott.man...@gmail.comwrote:

 I ran the current update with the wrong version of the K3 Utility and
 while the rig was bricked temporarily, it came back to life with no issues
 after I discovered the problem.

 73,
 Scott, N9AA

 On 2/28/14 9:14 AM, Buzz Dean wrote:

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[Elecraft] K2 For Sale

2014-02-28 Thread Joe Word
For sale very nice Elecraft K2, looks like built to NASA standards, serial
number 5634 (latest Revision B RF board), comes with the KSB2 SSB adapter
(built but not installed), KIO2 RS232 Serial adapter (not built or opened),
Rework Eliminator kit, a probe, bag of misc parts and connectors, manuals
and power cord. $560 shipped in CONUS, payment by money order or Cashiers
Check, no Paypal.
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[Elecraft] P3SVGA windowing

2014-02-28 Thread Howard Hoyt

Hi,

I really appreciate the higher resolution and detail available using the 
P3SVGA, but I have no room for a separate monitor in my setup. I have 
been using the monitor's input switching to see the P3SVGA's display but 
it is clumsy and slow, and I want to be able to see my logging software 
simultaneously with the P3SVGA.  The monitor is big enough that I would 
be able to display the P3SVGA display in a window.  I have already tried 
a VGA to HDMI converter looped into the HDMI input of my Blackmagic 
video acquisition card, but some video parameter is incompatible 
(horiz/vert freq, etc.) and I get no output. Here is my question:


What VGA acquisition device (VGAUSB2/3, VGAHDMI, VGAFW400/800...) if 
any have other P3SVGA owners used that works correctly in Win7?


Thanks in advance!

Howie - WA4PSC
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA windowing

2014-02-28 Thread Tom

Hi The Avermedia Hd game broadcaster with the vga input will work alone,  or 
with win4k3suite which allows point and click Qsy. 
Be aware however,  that the 32 bit drivers have issues.  On a 64 bit system 
they work fine. 
73s Tom 
Va2fsq.com 



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From: Howard Hoyt hh...@mebtel.net 
Date: 28/02/2014  11:18  (GMT-05:00) 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA windowing 
 
Hi,

I really appreciate the higher resolution and detail available using the 
P3SVGA, but I have no room for a separate monitor in my setup. I have 
been using the monitor's input switching to see the P3SVGA's display but 
it is clumsy and slow, and I want to be able to see my logging software 
simultaneously with the P3SVGA.  The monitor is big enough that I would 
be able to display the P3SVGA display in a window.  I have already tried 
a VGA to HDMI converter looped into the HDMI input of my Blackmagic 
video acquisition card, but some video parameter is incompatible 
(horiz/vert freq, etc.) and I get no output. Here is my question:

What VGA acquisition device (VGAUSB2/3, VGAHDMI, VGAFW400/800...) if 
any have other P3SVGA owners used that works correctly in Win7?

Thanks in advance!

Howie - WA4PSC
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[Elecraft] Serial Number Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Richard Solomon
Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was 
manufactured

and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?

If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
helpful in determining a price.

Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Mike Reublin
Dick -

IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial number is 
fairly likely to have been brought up to current production standards. That's 
unique to Elecraft as far as I know.

73, Mike NF4L

On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was manufactured
 and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
 
 If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
 helpful in determining a price.
 
 Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Jim Bennett
Jim,

I had my K3 for about two years before I got the P3. Now, I would not be 
without it. When chasing DX I can see where the other stations are and either 
jump on the frequency of the last guy worked, or find a hole in the pileup 
where I can plunk down my signal. I also do the QRP fox hunts - same deal 
there - finding a spot to call the fox makes the P3 invaluable. I sometimes 
work contests, in my attempt to get 5BWAS. The P3 lets me see where activity is.

I recently got a KX3. Not having the P3 panadapter was like walking around 
blind. Sure, that's the way everyone operated in the past, but then again, why 
not use the technology available? So, I got some software and hooked my KX3 up 
to a free program called NaP3 and I now have a 27 pan view of the band.

If you get a P3 - you will NOT want to be without it!!! :-)

Jim / W6JHB


On   Friday, Feb 28, 2014, at  Friday, 10:08 AM, Jim Lowman wrote:

 I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that 
 calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.
 
 When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other 
 manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.
 
 So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has 
 assisted you?
 In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the 
 passband could be missed, which is a good point.
 
 BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my $$$ if 
 this is a good idea.
 
 Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Jim Brown

On 2/28/2014 10:08 AM, Jim Lowman wrote:
So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it 
has assisted you?


Monitoring and finding stations on dead bands (like 6M), finding holes 
in a DX pileup where you might have better success, identifying RFI 
noise sources. Finding clear spots in a contest to call CQ.


In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of 
the passband could be missed, which is a good point. 


That is NOT a problem with the P3 -- it gets its feed from the first IF 
and can be adjusted to look at any bandwidth from 2 kHz to 200 kHz. When 
you turn on averaging in the Fixed Tune mode set it for the highest 
number of averages, it's very easy to see weak signals in the waterfall.


73, Jim K9YC




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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Frank Precissi
I have an LP-Pan (and soon to have a K3 for field day/portable use) and I
really wonder how I ever managed without it.

I'll put it this way, its like checking traffic conditions by driving down
each intersection vs looking down from above via airplane.  For contests
(especially digital ones) its a huge asset to get a big picture of where
all the traffic is.  For casual operating its nice to see at a glance what
the bands are doing.

In short, get one. :)

Frank
KG6EYC


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that
 calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.

 When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other
 manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.

 So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has
 assisted you?
 In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the
 passband could be missed, which is a good point.

 BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my $$$
 if this is a good idea.

 Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Phil Wheeler
The P3 is my first panadapter. Aside from other uses it often tells me the band 
isn't dead after all :-)

73, Phil w7ox -- Sent from my iPhone 5S

 On Feb 28, 2014, at 10:08, Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that 
 calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.
 
 When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other 
 manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.
 
 So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has 
 assisted you?
 In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the 
 passband could be missed, which is a good point.
 
 BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my $$$ if 
 this is a good idea.
 
 Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Frank Precissi
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Frank Precissi vad...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an LP-Pan (and soon to have a K3 for field day/portable use) and I
 really wonder how I ever managed without it.


BAH! P3 P3!


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[Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Jim Lowman
I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that 
calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.


When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other 
manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.


So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has 
assisted you?
In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the 
passband could be missed, which is a good point.


BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my $$$ 
if this is a good idea.


Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
Jim,

I use the P3 for monitoring the pileup in popular DXpeditions and for seeing
where openings might be on a band for contesting.  I also find it a useful
tool for finding, and avoiding, those among us who feel they need to run a
signal that's 4 or 5 KHz wide (I mostly operate SSB and PSK/RTTY).

However, I've found mine useful for another task, as well.  It's a great
teaching tool when Elmering someone or introducing them to the hobby.
Sometimes things just make more sense when you can see them.  If I can tune
a signal in, then show the new novice or interested non-ham what the signal
looks like, sometimes it helps things make more sense.  It's amazing to
explain a concept, then show it on my K3/P3, and see the light bulb go off
in their head.

Hope this helps.

73,

-- Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Lowman
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 1:09 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that
calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.

When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other
manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.

So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has
assisted you?
In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the
passband could be missed, which is a good point.

BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my $$$ if
this is a good idea.

Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread George Dubovsky
Hi Jim,

You'll be buried by responses to your question, but let me say that I am as
old-school cw-centric as they come. I contest unassisted, and I used to
question the value of the visual aspect of panadapters too. Until I got a
P3. I can't operate without it! On sp, it helps to separate the weaker
sigs from the loud cq machines - that you've already worked - and to
recognize that there is a guy that just quit transmitting on a freq, so you
wait a few seconds for him to reappear to see if it's a needed one.

When I got a second K3, I HAD to have a second P3.

Yeah, it's still fishing, but the barrel is big and deep, and sometimes you
need a fish-finder.


73,

geo - n4ua


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that
 calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.

 When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other
 manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.

 So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has
 assisted you?
 In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the
 passband could be missed, which is a good point.

 BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my $$$
 if this is a good idea.

 Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread James A. Carmody
Out of curiosity, is the P3 any better than the Panafall display with PSDR?  I 
love that feature with my Flex 3000.
Jim NN5O (V31AJ tomorrow). 
 
From: George Dubovsky n4ua...@gmail.com
To: Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?
 

Hi Jim,

You'll be buried by responses to your question, but let me say that I am as
old-school cw-centric as they come. I contest unassisted, and I used to
question the value of the visual aspect of panadapters too. Until I got a
P3. I can't operate without it! On sp, it helps to separate the weaker
sigs from the loud cq machines - that you've already worked - and to
recognize that there is a guy that just quit transmitting on a freq, so you
wait a few seconds for him to reappear to see if it's a needed one.

When I got a second K3, I HAD to have a second P3.

Yeah, it's still fishing, but the barrel is big and deep, and sometimes you
need a fish-finder.


73,

geo - n4ua


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that
 calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.

 When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other
 manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.

 So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has
 assisted you?
 In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the
 passband could be missed, which is a good point.

 BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my $$$
 if this is a good idea.

 Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Phil Hystad
I agree with Jim on the use of waterfall for weak signals.  When I first got 
the P3 my main focus was on the top part of the display, the spectrum of 
signals and I ignored the water fall.  One day I discovered a signal in the 
waterfall that did not even show up on the top spectrum portion.  It was a new 
DXCC entity for me and he picked me up on my first call to him.  Now, it is the 
waterfall where I do my hunting most of the time looking for either QRP or just 
plain ordinary weak signals.

By the way, I only call CQ if there is nothing else I can find on the band -- I 
have gone for days without calling CQ.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Feb 28, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:

 On 2/28/2014 10:08 AM, Jim Lowman wrote:
 So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has 
 assisted you?
 
 Monitoring and finding stations on dead bands (like 6M), finding holes in a 
 DX pileup where you might have better success, identifying RFI noise sources. 
 Finding clear spots in a contest to call CQ.
 
 In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the 
 passband could be missed, which is a good point. 
 
 That is NOT a problem with the P3 -- it gets its feed from the first IF and 
 can be adjusted to look at any bandwidth from 2 kHz to 200 kHz. When you turn 
 on averaging in the Fixed Tune mode set it for the highest number of 
 averages, it's very easy to see weak signals in the waterfall.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Buck - k4ia
I am using the LPpan with my K3.  I feel lost without it.  It is amazing 
to be able to see the whole band then click on the signal for automatic 
QSY.  You can walk up and down the band easily picking off the SPs.  
You can also see in a second if the band is open and not waste time 
tuning around looking for the action. When working split you can see 
where everyone is calling and spot the hole where you can slip in and be 
heard.


Get one and you will be amazed.

Buck
k4ia

On 2/28/2014 1:08 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that 
calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.


When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other 
manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.


So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it 
has assisted you?
In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of 
the passband could be missed, which is a good point.


BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my 
$$$ if this is a good idea.


Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread bill conkling
With either the waterfall or peak hold displays, you get to see where other 
stations were (and hopefully will come back,) so you don't pass them while 
tuning blind.

I really like my P3.

...bill nr4c

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that 
calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.

When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other 
manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.

So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has 
assisted you?
In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the 
passband could be missed, which is a good point.

BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my $$$ 
if this is a good idea.

Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Jack
I find the panadapter (or P3 in the case of our Elecraft rig) is 
invaluable when monitoring a band that is, apparently, not open. That 
happens often on both 10 and 6 meters and being able to *see* a wide 
swath of the band permits detection of activity that might not be on a 
calling frequency like 50.125 or 50.110MHz.


My XYL uses the P3 in RTTY contests to find signals strong enough to be 
worked with our *very* limited antennas without placing her in an 
assisted category. Yes, she still tunes the bands but the P3 is a 
great tool to help work stations that might otherwise be missed.


Jack, W6NF/VE4SNA

On 2/28/2014 10:08 AM, Jim Lowman wrote:
I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that 
calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.


When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other 
manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.


So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it 
has assisted you?
In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of 
the passband could be missed, which is a good point.


BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my 
$$$ if this is a good idea.


Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Fred Jensen

On 2/28/2014 10:08 AM, Jim Lowman wrote:


When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other
manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.


Many years ago [more than I want to admit], I had a WW2 surplus 
panadapter.  Little round scope, one trace, and signals looked like a 
hump [similar to the IC-756 series bandscope].  It was a 
semi-interesting hi-tech thing ... for the day.  I bought my P3 as a 
toy, just something to fool around with.


So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has
assisted you?


It's what I look at now.  It has features I don't use much, or at all, 
and a list of how I use it will be redundant to those you'll get from a 
countable infinity of responses you'll get.  One use which I think is 
unique to me was being able to discover that WWV on 2.5 and 20 MHz uses 
low level modulation and linear amplification while on 5, 10, and 15 
MHz, they plate modulate a Class C final stage. :-))



In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the
passband could be missed, which is a good point.


Actually, it's no point at all.  The P3 uses the 8 MHz first IF directly 
from the mixer and before the roofing filters.  The only filter in the 
path is the input bandpass filter which is way wider than anything the 
P3 can display.  If you set the K3 to 14.100 MHz and the P3 SPAN to 200, 
you are looking at the range 14.000-14.200.


Right after I got mine, I realized that I couldn't see weaker signals 
against the waterfall background due to a very poor choice of Mom and 
Dad ... I have no color vision.  A couple of weeks later, Alan added the 
option of a monochrome waterfall solving my problem.  Even if you have 
normal color vision you might try the monochrome out, several visitors 
have commented that it works better for them too.


Note, I just mentioned it once on the list looking for ideas to make it 
work better.  Alan [Elecraft] just did it but then you probably know 
that's how they work. :-)


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Jim Bennett
Well.. Yes and no. I tried Win4K3 and PowerSDR-IF and couldn't get either 
to work worth a hoot. I settled on NaP3 and am quite happy with it.

If you want to do nothing more than have the Panadapter view and/or waterfall, 
then yes, you can simply download and install NaP3, hook a cable from your KX3 
to your sound card, run the Elecraft Serial--USB cable from the KX3 to the 
computer, and you will have it. However, I also wanted a logging program 
running on my Win/XP system (running on a Mac with VMware Fusion) that knows 
what frequency  band the KX3 is on. Both require a Com port. My Mac has ZERO 
com ports. I'm using the Elecraft Serial--USB cable between the KX3 and the 
Mac's USB port. In order for me to have an additional Com port I also installed 
the free program LPB2 (LP Bridge 2). It connects to the KX3 using the original 
Com port that the Elecraft cable produces and then allows you to have up to 
five more virtual com ports.

It's pretty easy to get going and if you have questions I might be able to 
help. There is also a Yahoo LP-PAN group you can join. The owner/moderator has 
been quite helpful - Larry/N8LP. 

The quality / speed of the display depends on the quality of your sound card. 
Apple did not go to a lot of expense with the built-in sound card and I'm thus 
limited to seeing a maximum of 48 kHz of the band at one time. But the more I 
use the software, the better I feel about having this size slice to view. The 
RX I/Q cable from Elecraft for the KX3 is 2.5 mm stereo on one end and 3.5 mm 
stereo on the other end. That is what my system needs, as my iMac has a 3.5 mm 
stereo jack on the back for the Line In connection.

Drop me a note if you have questions.

73, Jim / W6JHB


On   Friday, Feb 28, 2014, at  Friday, 10:41 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:

 Jim, was this just a mater of running the free software on a shack computer 
 with the I/Q from the KX3 going to your sound card?
 
 If it's THAT easy, I might try it.  I am totally hooked with the K3/P3?VGA 
 already.
 
 Thanks, Charlie k3ICH
 
 - Original Message - From: Jim Bennett w6...@mac.com
 To: Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 1:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?
 
 
 Jim,
 
 I had my K3 for about two years before I got the P3. Now, I would not be 
 without it. When chasing DX I can see where the other stations are and 
 either jump on the frequency of the last guy worked, or find a hole in the 
 pileup where I can plunk down my signal. I also do the QRP fox hunts - 
 same deal there - finding a spot to call the fox makes the P3 invaluable. I 
 sometimes work contests, in my attempt to get 5BWAS. The P3 lets me see 
 where activity is.
 
 I recently got a KX3. Not having the P3 panadapter was like walking around 
 blind. Sure, that's the way everyone operated in the past, but then again, 
 why not use the technology available? So, I got some software and hooked my 
 KX3 up to a free program called NaP3 and I now have a 27 pan view of the 
 band.
 
 If you get a P3 - you will NOT want to be without it!!! :-)
 
 Jim / W6JHB
 
 
 On   Friday, Feb 28, 2014, at  Friday, 10:08 AM, Jim Lowman wrote:
 
 I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.  I've found that 
 calling CQ is something of a waste of valuable time.
 
 When I see options like the Panadapter, or bandscopes from other 
 manufacturers, I get the metaphor of fishing in a stocked pond.
 
 So, for those of you who have this option, could you describe how it has 
 assisted you?
 In another message, someone mentioned that weak stations outside of the 
 passband could be missed, which is a good point.
 
 BTW, I'm not opposed to giving the good folks at Elecraft more of my $$$ if 
 this is a good idea.
 
 Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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[Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread Luther Phillips
Jim, if you are referring to CW SP'ing, then the LP Pan/sound card combo 
offers a significant advantage over the P3 if you use CW Skimmer, and a 
logging program such as N1MM or Writelog. (other logging programs may also 
do this) This adds the capability to point  click on stations that show up 
in the logging software bandmap, and allows for very high SP rates. This is 
how I do most of my CW contesting, but be aware it puts you in the Assisted 
or Unlimited category if you plan to turn in your log. You can also use NaP3 
during a contest to get a wide-range view of the band, regardless of mode. 
CW Skimmer is used to send its spots to your logging software via telenet. 
This also affords the advantage of seeing only spots you are actually 
hearing vs using RBN or other spotting networks during a contest. I have 
noticed that during very busy times with very strong signals, such as CW 
Sweepstakes on 40 or 80, there will be some phantom stations showing, 
probably due to overloading of the LP-Pan's receiver.


You can also use CW Skimmer in blind mode with no callsign decoding and 
stay out of the Assisted category if you prefer, but that negates most of 
the advantage of using it.


I also use this setup for everyday monitoring  CW Dx'ing. I rarely ever 
listen to a split pileup anymore. Using CW Skimmer with it's high resolution 
and call sign/5NN flagging makes it very easy to see where to call in a 
pileup.


While the combo of LP-Pan, good sound card, and CW Skimmer is cheaper than 
the P3, assuming you already have a computer, it does take a robust PC to 
run it all properly. Anything with an Intel i3 @ 3 GHz and 4 GB RAM will do 
fine. Some laptops may have issues trying to run all that software at the 
same time. I also use two monitors so I can have more program windows 
visible without having to switch back and forth so much.


Good luck!

73,
Luther N4UW 


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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - opinions, please?

2014-02-28 Thread mcduffie

 I'm basically a SP operator, especially in contests.

Salt  Pepper?

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 Power Calibration Problem

2014-02-28 Thread JeremyJones
I was only able to get U5 pin3 down to 0.03VDC during the SWR Bridge Null
test.  Is that low enough?  The manual says 0 volts or close to it.

Jeremy
VA3ZTF


Don Wilhelm-4 wrote
 Jeremy,
 
 You did not mention it, so I have to ask - when connected as you 
 describe, did you first obtain a good null at U5 pin 3 (by adjusting 
 C31)?  That is a necessary first step.  If you did not get a voltage 
 measurement in the single digit millivolt range (less than 10 
 millivolts), then 'all bets are off' and you need to first resolve that 
 problem.





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Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 Power Calibration Problem

2014-02-28 Thread JeremyJones
I just reread Dons post, and he says less than 10mV, so I guess I have some
trouble shooting to do with that first,

Jeremy
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 For Sale

2014-02-28 Thread Joe Word
The K2 has been sold.

Thanks to all.

Joe  N9VX


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Joe Word n9vx@gmail.com wrote:

 For sale very nice Elecraft K2, looks like built to NASA standards, serial
 number 5634 (latest Revision B RF board), comes with the KSB2 SSB adapter
 (built but not installed), KIO2 RS232 Serial adapter (not built or opened),
 Rework Eliminator kit, a probe, bag of misc parts and connectors, manuals
 and power cord. $560 shipped in CONUS, payment by money order or Cashiers
 Check, no Paypal.

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Re: [Elecraft] The case for a Panadapter - I'm convinced!

2014-02-28 Thread Jim Lowman

Okay, gentlemen, before Eric gets tired of this thread...

Thank you, all, for voicing your very positive votes for a P3.
I am convinced!
As soon as I get up to retrieve my wallet, I'll order one.
Probably I'll also order the SVGA adapter, since I have a nice i7 
desktop with a 24 monitor that is earmarked for the shack.


Hopefully, Lisa or someone in the Sales Department will catch the order 
before the end of the business week.


Thanks again and 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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[Elecraft] WTB: KDVR3 - two FM filters one 6 KHz Inrad 710 filter

2014-02-28 Thread Gary Smith
I'm looking for a KDVR3 that's excess and also some filters to fill 
some slots in my main  sub Rx. 

I need one Inrad 710 6KHz filter and two FM filters

Please contact me directly and remove [Elecraft] from the subject 
line so your email won't get filtered to the Elecraft folder.

73,

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Gary Smith
That is true. My K3 I assembled in 08 was brought up to today's K3 
standards when it was cared for by Elecraft 2 months ago. I asked for 
and had all the upgrades/updates done to it and it was very 
reasonable and yes, I definitely hear a difference in cw reception 
thanks to these changes. 


73,

Gary
KA1J


 Dick -
 
 IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial number is 
 fairly likely to have been brought up to current production standards. That's 
 unique to Elecraft as far as I know.
 
 73, Mike NF4L
 
 On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
  Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was manufactured
  and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
  
  If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
  helpful in determining a price.
  
  Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 Power Calibration Problem

2014-02-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jeremy,

Tune the capacitor very slowly and use a non-metallic tool.  The null is 
sharp and deep.

You must have a good 50 ohm dummy load connected.
You may want to take your external wattmeter out of line to do the nulling.
The actual voltage will depend on the power level, at 5 watts it should 
be less than 10 mV, but you should be able to get it below 15 or 20 mV 
if the power is 10 watts.  If you are using 20 watts or more from the 
KPA100, then your 30 mV is probably OK.


Ideally, the voltage should go to zero, but being practical, one may not 
be able to adjust the capacitor in fine enough increments to achieve 
that goal.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/28/2014 4:32 PM, JeremyJones wrote:

I just reread Dons post, and he says less than 10mV, so I guess I have some
trouble shooting to do with that first,

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Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread leonard_nagorski
Just for information, I ordered a K3 at the end of January 2014 and my serial 
number was within 10 units of 8000. I love it!!!  73s.  Len Nagorski. WA0OQW

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 28, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote:
 
 That is true. My K3 I assembled in 08 was brought up to today's K3 
 standards when it was cared for by Elecraft 2 months ago. I asked for 
 and had all the upgrades/updates done to it and it was very 
 reasonable and yes, I definitely hear a difference in cw reception 
 thanks to these changes. 
 
 
 73,
 
 Gary
 KA1J
 
 
 Dick -
 
 IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial number is 
 fairly likely to have been brought up to current production standards. 
 That's unique to Elecraft as far as I know.
 
 73, Mike NF4L
 
 On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was manufactured
 and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
 
 If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
 helpful in determining a price.
 
 Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Gary Gregory
January, 2008, serial number 679 and it aint going anywhere soon...:-)

Gary


On 1 March 2014 09:33, leonard_nagor...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Just for information, I ordered a K3 at the end of January 2014 and my
 serial number was within 10 units of 8000. I love it!!!  73s.  Len
 Nagorski. WA0OQW

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Feb 28, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote:
 
  That is true. My K3 I assembled in 08 was brought up to today's K3
  standards when it was cared for by Elecraft 2 months ago. I asked for
  and had all the upgrades/updates done to it and it was very
  reasonable and yes, I definitely hear a difference in cw reception
  thanks to these changes.
 
 
  73,
 
  Gary
  KA1J
 
 
  Dick -
 
  IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial
 number is fairly likely to have been brought up to current production
 standards. That's unique to Elecraft as far as I know.
 
  73, Mike NF4L
 
  On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
 
  Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was
 manufactured
  and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
 
  If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
  helpful in determining a price.
 
  Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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[Elecraft] Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread riese-k3djc


It would be nice if you were able to add the portion of the update you
felt you wanted
I havent updated since I added the P3,,, makes me an Ol Fart
but I would like the enhancements for the noise blanker and some other
parts of the K3
but
I dont want to have relearn the menu etc with some of the complete
software updates
I really like my K3 and dont want to do a complete upgrade
but I may have to

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Re: [Elecraft] Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bob,

You will not have to relearn the menu even with complete firmware 
upgrades.  Things do not change THAT much.  Sometimes a new function is 
added, but you don't have to use it unless it interests you. Added 
functions rarely change the operation unless you encounter that new 
function in some way.


Even if you want to keep your operation the same, upgrades also do 
contain bug fixes, so you should be taking advantage of those.  If you 
do not upgrade, who knows when you might encounter one of those bugs 
that had been fixed long ago.


OTOH, if you are satisfied with the operation of your K3 and P3, you 
don't have to do the upgrades.  It will continue to operate as it is.
One big BUT - if you do encounter problems, one of the first steps to 
possible resolution is to first do the upgrades to see if that corrects 
your problem.  If you contact support, that is likely to be their first 
suggestion, especially if they recall a bug fix relating to your problem.


Elecraft gear just keeps getting better and better, and the really nice 
part is that the firmware upgrades do not cost anything except a little 
of your time.  If you follow the instructions for upgrading, it is 
normally painless.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/28/2014 7:10 PM, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote:


It would be nice if you were able to add the portion of the update you
felt you wanted
I havent updated since I added the P3,,, makes me an Ol Fart
but I would like the enhancements for the noise blanker and some other
parts of the K3
but
I dont want to have relearn the menu etc with some of the complete
software updates
I really like my K3 and dont want to do a complete upgrade
but I may have to




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Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Matt Zilmer
Just to back Mike up on his remark, I own K3 s/n 24 and have all the
mods installed as well as up to date firmware.  AFAIK, this K3 is
roughly equal to all others that are up to date.

73,
matt W6NIA


On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:03:36 -0500, you wrote:

Dick -

IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial number is 
fairly likely to have been brought up to current production standards. That's 
unique to Elecraft as far as I know.

73, Mike NF4L

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 Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was manufactured
 and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
 
 If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
 helpful in determining a price.
 
 Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

I can also add backup to that as well - I have K3 SN 20 fully upgraded.
It may not be relevant to the initial question, but the same thing 
applies to the K2 - yes, there was a borad change at SN 3000, but 
upgrade kits were available at modest cost to bring the older board up 
to the same level except for minor and inconsequential differences.  The 
K2 upgrades continued through about SN 4660 and after that no further 
upgrades were made.  The result is that even the lowest K2 serial number 
can perform just like a brand new K2 thanks to the way Elecraft has 
handled upgrades.  If you would like to compare my SN 20 K2 against a 
brand new K2, just come over to my workbench - I can show you that the 
performance is equal.


No model number changes that require you to purchase a new transceiver 
to get the benefits of the change - just get the upgrade kit and install 
it and you have a new and improved transceiver.

It is just the way Elecraft does business.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/28/2014 7:47 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote:

Just to back Mike up on his remark, I own K3 s/n 24 and have all the
mods installed as well as up to date firmware.  AFAIK, this K3 is
roughly equal to all others that are up to date.

73,
matt W6NIA


On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:03:36 -0500, you wrote:


Dick -

IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial number is 
fairly likely to have been brought up to current production standards. That's 
unique to Elecraft as far as I know.

73, Mike NF4L

On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.net wrote:


Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was manufactured
and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?

If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
helpful in determining a price.




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Re: [Elecraft] Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread riese-k3djc

On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:38:22 -0500 Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
writes:
 Bob,
 
 You will not have to relearn the menu even with complete firmware 
 upgrades.  Things do not change THAT much.  Sometimes a new function 
 is 
 added, but you don't have to use it unless it interests you. Added 
 functions rarely change the operation unless you encounter that new 
 
 function in some way.


and that is my ummm fear having had the megacount button radios
inadvertently hitting one could take a long time sorting back out
the best part of elecraft gear is outstanding dynamic range and
just enough buttons
if it ever warms up looking forward to backpacking/biking with the KX3
built em both love them both

HAR

Bob K3DJC 

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Re: [Elecraft] Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bob,

But in that event, a quick post to the Elecraft reflector will likely 
set you straight in a short time - often even in minutes.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/28/2014 8:11 PM, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote:

On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:38:22 -0500 Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
writes:

Bob,

You will not have to relearn the menu even with complete firmware
upgrades.  Things do not change THAT much.  Sometimes a new function
is
added, but you don't have to use it unless it interests you. Added
functions rarely change the operation unless you encounter that new

function in some way.


and that is my ummm fear having had the megacount button radios
inadvertently hitting one could take a long time sorting back out
the best part of elecraft gear is outstanding dynamic range and
just enough buttons
if it ever warms up looking forward to backpacking/biking with the KX3
built em both love them both

HAR

Bob K3DJC



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[Elecraft] Using RadioSport headset standard mic with KX3?

2014-02-28 Thread Les Gasser W9XC

Hi all,

I'm curious if anyone has an Arlan RadiosPort headset with the
standard red (M102) dynamic mic element, that they have working well
with the KX3. This is a great headset, but I can't seem to get enough
output from this mic element to get any usable level on my KX3.
Specifically, I can't find any setting of the keyer/mic level that
gives me any ALC bars at all at any speaking volume. (The RadioSport
mic has a 2-conductor T-S plug, but I do have the MIC-BTN menu item
set correctly for this and I do have some sound in the monitor
(headphones) when speaking.)

I wonder about this because the same mic works great with my Flex
6500, and I'd imagine the KX3 could accommodate a range of mic levels
as great as the Flex can.

Any help appreciated.

- Les Gasser, W9XC




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Re: [Elecraft] Using RadioSport headset standard mic with KX3?

2014-02-28 Thread Don Wilhelm


Les,

I know nothing about that headset, but grab your ohmmeter and check to 
see if the tip and ring connections are tied together (like they are for 
most computer microphones).


If they are connected together, the KX3 PTT circuit may be applying a 
bias voltage to the dynamic microphone which would drive the element to 
one side of its travel or the other making it inoperative.

On 2/28/2014 8:42 PM, Les Gasser W9XC wrote:

Hi all,

I'm curious if anyone has an Arlan RadiosPort headset with the
standard red (M102) dynamic mic element, that they have working well
with the KX3. This is a great headset, but I can't seem to get enough
output from this mic element to get any usable level on my KX3.
Specifically, I can't find any setting of the keyer/mic level that
gives me any ALC bars at all at any speaking volume. (The RadioSport
mic has a 2-conductor T-S plug, but I do have the MIC-BTN menu item
set correctly for this and I do have some sound in the monitor
(headphones) when speaking.)

I wonder about this because the same mic works great with my Flex
6500, and I'd imagine the KX3 could accommodate a range of mic levels
as great as the Flex can.

Any help appreciated.

- Les Gasser, W9XC




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Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 Power Calibration Problem

2014-02-28 Thread JeremyJones
I've taken the watt meter out of the loop, and have the K2 set for 10W. 
Double checked the windings and solder on T1, and it still won't go below
30mV.  I definitely have C31 at the low spot as the voltage climbs on either
side.  I still can't get anywhere the voltage needed at U5 pin 5 for the
power calibration.

Jeremy
VA3ZTF


Don Wilhelm-4 wrote
 Jeremy,
 
 Tune the capacitor very slowly and use a non-metallic tool.  The null is 
 sharp and deep.
 You must have a good 50 ohm dummy load connected.
 You may want to take your external wattmeter out of line to do the
 nulling.
 The actual voltage will depend on the power level, at 5 watts it should 
 be less than 10 mV, but you should be able to get it below 15 or 20 mV 
 if the power is 10 watts.  If you are using 20 watts or more from the 
 KPA100, then your 30 mV is probably OK.
 
 Ideally, the voltage should go to zero, but being practical, one may not 
 be able to adjust the capacitor in fine enough increments to achieve 
 that goal.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 2/28/2014 4:32 PM, JeremyJones wrote:
 I just reread Dons post, and he says less than 10mV, so I guess I have
 some
 trouble shooting to do with that first,

 Jeremy
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Re: [Elecraft] Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Matt VK2RQ
And of course you took a backup when you upgraded (right?), so you can very 
easily revert to a known good configuration in case of fat finger syndrome :-)

73,
Matt VK2RQ

 On 1 Mar 2014, at 12:35 pm, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 
 Bob,
 
 But in that event, a quick post to the Elecraft reflector will likely set you 
 straight in a short time - often even in minutes.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 2/28/2014 8:11 PM, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:38:22 -0500 Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
 writes:
 Bob,
 
 You will not have to relearn the menu even with complete firmware
 upgrades.  Things do not change THAT much.  Sometimes a new function
 is
 added, but you don't have to use it unless it interests you. Added
 functions rarely change the operation unless you encounter that new
 
 function in some way.
 
 and that is my ummm fear having had the megacount button radios
 inadvertently hitting one could take a long time sorting back out
 the best part of elecraft gear is outstanding dynamic range and
 just enough buttons
 if it ever warms up looking forward to backpacking/biking with the KX3
 built em both love them both
 
 HAR
 
 Bob K3DJC
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
What backup? :-) The Elecraft firmware upgrades go so smoothly that I 
have never needed them.
Of course, a save of the configuration data before an update is prudent 
just in case anything goes awry and an EEINIT is required, but that has 
not been my experience.  All updates including a lot of beta (and alpha) 
firmware loads have been without incident.


I think the number of such failures has been highly overrated.  You do 
not hear of the many successes on the reflector, but the number of 
difficulties encountered are posted here.
Count the number of difficulties reported in light of having more than 
8000 K3s in the field and I believe you will find the difficulties to be 
a very small percentage.


Difficulties encountered in a firmware update are typically due to 
something the user has done that is out of the ordinary - such as a 
disconnect on the port during the update or an unexpected power off 
during an update.  I had one problem when the computer quit during a 
download, but after getting the computer straight and repeating the 
procedure, all was well in short order.


The cure for such difficulties is normally found in the Force Firmware 
Download procedure in the manual or in the K3 Utility Help file.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/28/2014 10:02 PM, Matt VK2RQ wrote:

And of course you took a backup when you upgraded (right?), so you can very 
easily revert to a known good configuration in case of fat finger syndrome :-)

73,
Matt VK2RQ


On 1 Mar 2014, at 12:35 pm, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

Bob,

But in that event, a quick post to the Elecraft reflector will likely set you 
straight in a short time - often even in minutes.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 2/28/2014 8:11 PM, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:38:22 -0500 Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
writes:

Bob,

You will not have to relearn the menu even with complete firmware
upgrades.  Things do not change THAT much.  Sometimes a new function
is
added, but you don't have to use it unless it interests you. Added
functions rarely change the operation unless you encounter that new

function in some way.

and that is my ummm fear having had the megacount button radios
inadvertently hitting one could take a long time sorting back out
the best part of elecraft gear is outstanding dynamic range and
just enough buttons
if it ever warms up looking forward to backpacking/biking with the KX3
built em both love them both

HAR

Bob K3DJC

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Re: [Elecraft] Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Matt VK2RQ
I've never needed to revert to a backup either (touch wood), but it is still 
good practice to back up your config when upgrading. After all, you already 
have the utility open when upgrading, so how hard it is to hit Save Config? 
This ensures you have a reasonably up-to-date config saved, and if at some 
stage your fat fingers mess things up on the radio, and you can't get it back 
to how you had it set up before, then if you have a recent backup it is child's 
play to simply restore the settings. I agree it is far more likely that the 
settings are messed up by user error rather than by a faulty upgrade process, 
but regardless how the settings become messed up, it is far better to have a 
recent backup than to regret having no backup :-)

73,
Matt VK2RQ

 On 1 Mar 2014, at 2:35 pm, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 
 What backup? :-) The Elecraft firmware upgrades go so smoothly that I have 
 never needed them.
 Of course, a save of the configuration data before an update is prudent just 
 in case anything goes awry and an EEINIT is required, but that has not been 
 my experience.  All updates including a lot of beta (and alpha) firmware 
 loads have been without incident.
 
 I think the number of such failures has been highly overrated.  You do not 
 hear of the many successes on the reflector, but the number of difficulties 
 encountered are posted here.
 Count the number of difficulties reported in light of having more than 8000 
 K3s in the field and I believe you will find the difficulties to be a very 
 small percentage.
 
 Difficulties encountered in a firmware update are typically due to something 
 the user has done that is out of the ordinary - such as a disconnect on the 
 port during the update or an unexpected power off during an update.  I had 
 one problem when the computer quit during a download, but after getting the 
 computer straight and repeating the procedure, all was well in short order.
 
 The cure for such difficulties is normally found in the Force Firmware 
 Download procedure in the manual or in the K3 Utility Help file.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 2/28/2014 10:02 PM, Matt VK2RQ wrote:
 And of course you took a backup when you upgraded (right?), so you can very 
 easily revert to a known good configuration in case of fat finger syndrome 
 :-)
 
 73,
 Matt VK2RQ
 
 On 1 Mar 2014, at 12:35 pm, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 
 Bob,
 
 But in that event, a quick post to the Elecraft reflector will likely set 
 you straight in a short time - often even in minutes.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 2/28/2014 8:11 PM, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:38:22 -0500 Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
 writes:
 Bob,
 
 You will not have to relearn the menu even with complete firmware
 upgrades.  Things do not change THAT much.  Sometimes a new function
 is
 added, but you don't have to use it unless it interests you. Added
 functions rarely change the operation unless you encounter that new
 
 function in some way.
 and that is my ummm fear having had the megacount button radios
 inadvertently hitting one could take a long time sorting back out
 the best part of elecraft gear is outstanding dynamic range and
 just enough buttons
 if it ever warms up looking forward to backpacking/biking with the KX3
 built em both love them both
 
 HAR
 
 Bob K3DJC
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Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Update Status

2014-02-28 Thread Gary Smith
FWIW,

When I was choosing which rig to get, to upgrade from my TenTec Omni 
V, I wanted a radio that was going to be on the top of its game as 
long as there were parts available for it. I considered all the rigs 
available at the time and it was a close draw between the Orion  the 
K3. I eliminated the Asian rigs because of the extremely high cost 
and because there were problems that were seemingly eternal that the 
only fix was a new model and retiring the old one.

The Orion was and still is a really fine radio but there were a lack 
of updates to the software that for whatever reason, left their 
owners complaining and the solution never being made available. At 
the same time the K3 was seeing updates seemingly every month if not 
sooner and it was obvious Elecraft was trying to resolve every valid 
issue that it could. 

The Orion ran into issues with end of life components that could not 
be obtained and an Orion II was released. I'd decided to go with 
Elecraft, another US company and I felt badly not going with TenTec 
but to my impression, Elecraft was delivering and TenTec was not.

As it is today, I made the right choice; The Orion is no longer in 
production (which is a shame because it was a really nice radio) and 
the K3 is in production and Elecraft will make all of them as-new for 
a modest investment. No way I could afford to buy a new rig every 
couple of years but in the K3 I have a rig I am familiar with and it 
is newer and improved, just like buying a new  upgraded radio but 
one I don't have to learn about or the location/functions of buttons 
anew as a new rig would demand.

Would I like a newer serial #? Absolutely but only from the 
standpoint that people equate a higher serial with a better radio. 
With this upgraded/updated K3, it is exactly the same as a new one. 
When Elecraft comes up with a new update/upgrade, I'll be right there 
to buy that and keep my rig brand new. What other manufacturer does 
that other than Elecraft? 

They have my business from now on.

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[Elecraft] [K3] Perfect for Field Day SP ... Limited Production 700 Hz 8-Pole Filters

2014-02-28 Thread Gary W. Hvizdak
Unless you have a panadapter, you'll never work weak stations, if you can't
hear them because they're outside your passband!  (This is the beauty of 700
Hz!)  In fact, many seasoned Elecraft K3 owners feel that using the radio's
400 Hz default (NORM) CW passband setting, is kind of like viewing the
world thru a drinking straw while riding a bicycle.  That is, it would be
fairly easy to skip right past a weak calling station, without ever
realizing it was there.

But even more importantly, prolonged scanning with a 400 Hz passband can be
tedious and fatiguing.  This is why, band conditions permitting, savvy
operators prefer a 700 Hz passband:

o   for general CW tuning -- W3FPR
o   for scanning the band (or a pileup). -- K8GU
o   for combing through the pileups with VFO [B] -- NI0C
o   to cruise the CW bands from a wider perspective -- N1LQ

--- - - - ---

The next batch is due to arrive May 16th.  Demand for these custom filters
can fluctuate dramatically, so it's impossible to say precisely when this
next manufacturing lot might sell out.  (Our best guess is:  April 1st,
give or take a few weeks.)  A subsequent production run can be expected
about 15 weeks thereafter.

If you have a sub-receiver or you are considering getting one, then FYI the
center frequency offset of individual manufacturing lots, can vary by up to
plus or minus 100 Hz.  In contrast, the variation across any given lot is
typically only plus or minus 5 Hz; yielding superbly matched pairs for
diversity reception!

--- - - - ---

Visit http://www.unpcbs.com to place an order, and for full details
including:

o   Retail price.
o   The filter's passband response plot.
o   User comments.
o   Special terms of sale.
o   Bandwidth and availability FAQs.
o   App notes.
o   An animated slideshow illustrating all five INRAD CW bandwidths.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX
(webmaster)


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