Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Charging question

2014-05-14 Thread Ralf Wilhelm
Hi Gerry,

The charger is a constant current source (which adapts its voltage to supply a 
constant current) and my guess would be that, at the end of the charging 
process, the difference between the voltages of power supply and batteries is 
not high enough for the charger to supply its current.
Either the power supply voltage is not high enough or there is an additional 
voltage drop (higher than normal battery internal resistance or higher contact 
resistance in the battery holder perhaps?)

Greetings

Ralf, DL6OAP


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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLonk from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Joel Black
Unless I am misunderstanding the question, you cannot. Not with a 
SignaLink. The SignaLink is a mono input sound card (unless you re-wire 
the plug to listen to the SubRX).


If you listen with headphones with the sub-receiver on, you will notice 
that the subRX appears in the right ear while the mainRX appears in the 
left. You can do the same thing (and I have) with a sound card that has 
a stereo input.


To my knowledge, there are three sound card interfaces *designed* for 
amateur radio:


1. Timewave Navigator (formerly by US Interface)
2. MixW RigExpert
3. MicroHam (various models)

At one time or another, I have looked at all three and debated which to 
get. After much agonizing and gnashing of teeth, I decided to stick with 
what I have for a few reasons:


1. I already had it (no money out-of-pocket)
2. The offerings only give me one thing I don't currently have 
(front-panel Tx audio adjustment)
3. I didn't need rig control which all of the three have - it would be 
wasted on me
4. They're relatively expensive ($250 - 300) even without the 
*necessary* cable which costs ~ $50 (you *can* build this cable yourself)


I use an off-the-shelf external USB sound card. It is a Creative Labs 
E-MU 0204 which I do not think is currently in production. You can look 
it up to be certain. The previous model (0202) is also a good sound card 
if you can find it. There are scads of internal sound cards available. 
The beauty of the K3 is you do not need the audio isolation transformers 
available in the SignaLink (or other sound card interface designed for 
amateur radio); they're already built in.


This is not directed at you, but it is a preemptive statement to those 
who will say you do not *need* the SignaLink: I apologize in advance for 
shouting, YOU NEED A SOUND CARD THAT IS DEDICATED TO AMATEUR RADIO AND 
*SEPARATE* FROM YOUR MAIN SOUND. Just yesterday, on 20 m JT65, I heard 
someone's WinXP shutdown sound over the air. You spent a couple of 
thousand on the K3, please be kind enough to the rest of us to spend 
another $100 or so and get a nice sound card. Yes, you'll hear all day 
that the K3 has the ability to take audio directly from the sound card. 
It is a wonderful feature. I use it. I use it with an amateur 
radio-dedicated sound card only.


I wound up with the E-MU 0204 because I had experimented with kit-built 
SDR a few years back (I built a SoftRock TXRX Ensemble II and a Genesis 
G59/GPA10). The 0202 was already out of production, but the 0204 was 
available. I bought it used for about $120. They're less expensive even 
now. You do not have to go with my recommendation though. There are lots 
of choices.


Again, I hope I didn't misunderstand the question and just flooded you 
with un-needed information.


73,
Joel - W4JBB

On 5/13/14, 10:41 PM, Bob KD7YZ wrote:

I am using the BNC connector for the Rx antenna and am receiving
primarily on the internal 6m band.

This is the first time I have tried it. Otherwise I have been working
many bands and using JT65 with no problems

I just now realised that my SignaLink soundcard in fact is NOT listening
to the Sub-Rx because I shut off the mast mounted Gaasfet and although
the sub-RX audio dropped way off, the JT65 program showed a steady,
unchanging noise level.

So how do I tell the K3 to put the audio from the Sub Rx and not the
main Rx?



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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLonk from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Bob KD7YZ
On 5/14/2014 06:09, Joel Black wrote:
 Unless I am misunderstanding the question, you cannot. Not with a
 SignaLink. The SignaLink is a mono input sound card (unless you re-wire
 the plug to listen to the SubRX).

 I do have an EMU-0404 though. I haven't used it in two years and it's
in a drawer. How would this help me? Are you saying it can split the
Sub-Rx audio out of the the two? ..Currently we take the SignaLink audio
out the rear line in Line out places.

I do realize the Sub-Rx audio is split when listening thru the headsets.


I am using the Sub-Rx because I see no other way to use a separate
receive line when I am using the internal 6m band. I have an Elecraft 6m
XV50 but am needing to split the Rx input on it and haven't gotten
around to it. It is wired to be able to take in Rx coax and have the Tx
o the other conn. ... O want Split lines to simplify using high-end
preamp w/o the usual possibility to kill said pre-amp if I screw up
timing. I am not going to debate the use of this method as I used it
extensively in the past in the 70's to 90's .

So, the gal is to find the near term solution for using internal audio
form the Sub-Rx.

I will re-install the EMU0404 and see how to get the audio out.

thanks for the idea.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - newest release of HRD

2014-05-14 Thread Jim Rogers
I am running 6.1 and it looks to me like the K3 is well supported, I 
have found no deficiency with HRD where the K3 is concerned.  I 
typically do not use a lot of features on the radio panel, mostly 
working with the logbook and DM-780 for RTTY and the digital modes.


73s Jim, W4ATK

On 5/13/2014 7:31 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote:
Anyone using the latest version of HRD - 6.2? Their advertising says 
there in K3 and Kx3 support. Can anyone tell me what they have 
improved? I am still running an old 5.xx version that only partially 
support the K3. When/if HRD fully supports thatK3 I will immediately 
purchase an up-to-date version of HRD.


I only use HRD for rig control, so all the other stuff is just fluff 
to me. The older versions, and I am told the more recent versions 
also, do not fully support the K3's controls or indications of control 
selections.


Any comments?

Thanks,

Bill K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLink from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Joel Black

Bob,

In regards to RX audio only: if the 0404 has a *stereo* input, it will 
listen to the MainRX on the left channel and the SubRX on the right 
channel when the SubRX is activated. *If* what you're looking for is 
being able to receive the audio from the SubRX, you will have to have a 
stereo sound card. If the 0404 does that, you should be good.


If you're talking about anything else regarding the XV50, I'm not sure I 
understand that part as I don't use one.


73,
Joel - W4JBB


On 5/14/14, 7:06 AM, Bob KD7YZ wrote:

On 5/14/2014 06:09, Joel Black wrote:

Unless I am misunderstanding the question, you cannot. Not with a
SignaLink. The SignaLink is a mono input sound card (unless you re-wire
the plug to listen to the SubRX).

  I do have an EMU-0404 though. I haven't used it in two years and it's
in a drawer. How would this help me? Are you saying it can split the
Sub-Rx audio out of the the two? ..Currently we take the SignaLink audio
out the rear line in Line out places.

I do realize the Sub-Rx audio is split when listening thru the headsets.


I am using the Sub-Rx because I see no other way to use a separate
receive line when I am using the internal 6m band. I have an Elecraft 6m
XV50 but am needing to split the Rx input on it and haven't gotten
around to it. It is wired to be able to take in Rx coax and have the Tx
o the other conn. ... O want Split lines to simplify using high-end
preamp w/o the usual possibility to kill said pre-amp if I screw up
timing. I am not going to debate the use of this method as I used it
extensively in the past in the 70's to 90's .

So, the gal is to find the near term solution for using internal audio
form the Sub-Rx.

I will re-install the EMU0404 and see how to get the audio out.

thanks for the idea.




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[Elecraft] WTB: KPA500

2014-05-14 Thread Larry - K1UO
If anyone is considering selling/upgrading their KPA500 please contact me 
offline.
call (at) arrl (dot) net
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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLonk from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Nr4c
Sub rec audio is on right channel of all K3 audio outputs ( ring +sleeve). Make 
an adapter for SLUSB!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


 On May 14, 2014, at 8:06 AM, Bob KD7YZ kd...@denstarfarm.us wrote:
 
 On 5/14/2014 06:09, Joel Black wrote:
 Unless I am misunderstanding the question, you cannot. Not with a
 SignaLink. The SignaLink is a mono input sound card (unless you re-wire
 the plug to listen to the SubRX).
 
 I do have an EMU-0404 though. I haven't used it in two years and it's
 in a drawer. How would this help me? Are you saying it can split the
 Sub-Rx audio out of the the two? ..Currently we take the SignaLink audio
 out the rear line in Line out places.
 
 I do realize the Sub-Rx audio is split when listening thru the headsets.
 
 
 I am using the Sub-Rx because I see no other way to use a separate
 receive line when I am using the internal 6m band. I have an Elecraft 6m
 XV50 but am needing to split the Rx input on it and haven't gotten
 around to it. It is wired to be able to take in Rx coax and have the Tx
 o the other conn. ... O want Split lines to simplify using high-end
 preamp w/o the usual possibility to kill said pre-amp if I screw up
 timing. I am not going to debate the use of this method as I used it
 extensively in the past in the 70's to 90's .
 
 So, the gal is to find the near term solution for using internal audio
 form the Sub-Rx.
 
 I will re-install the EMU0404 and see how to get the audio out.
 
 thanks for the idea.
 
 
 -- 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Dayton hotels/motels K2/10 EC2kat-kpa

2014-05-14 Thread Bill NY9H

still go to the FDIM QRP thing at fairborne,
but stay  at the Dayton University  dorms..
very nice.. and it costs 4 guys 104$ each  for 4 nights wed- sat
( $ 26 a night)

cu at Dayton
I'll be out at #4041 with a K2/10 batt, tuner,ssb,nb,160, serial 
 EC2  with 100watt top  kat100 bottom , cables
  $1350 with each in heavy duty pelican cases..
reason selling   kx3  amp tuner

Herc II with TT PS ...12VDC solid state 500watt amp   1400 ( maybe 
even the remote control ...if I find it !) got a kpa500 !


bill  ny9h/3

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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLonk from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Sam Morgan

isn't this configurable using the CONFIG L -- MIX-- Rsettings?

On 5/14/2014 8:23 AM, Nr4c wrote:

Sub rec audio is on right channel of all K3 audio outputs ( ring +sleeve). Make 
an adapter for SLUSB!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLonk from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


Not on the Line Out unless one sets Line Out= Phones and then the
AF gain controls the line out level.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/14/2014 9:55 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:

isn't this configurable using the CONFIG L -- MIX-- Rsettings?

On 5/14/2014 8:23 AM, Nr4c wrote:

Sub rec audio is on right channel of all K3 audio outputs ( ring
+sleeve). Make an adapter for SLUSB!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill




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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLink from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Bob KD7YZ
Well gee ... when I ordered the K3, I got it loaded because I
correctly figured that eventually (A) I'd need some other non-usual
aspect for my weak signal stuff.  And (B) that I would eventually figure
out how to read thee manual and also understand (eventually) what I just
read.

That said, I might have just discovered what the installed KXV3 module
could be used for.

I just plugged the Rx Down-Line into the KXV3 BNC Rx Ant In.

I am now hearing signals from the antenna by selecting K3 front-panel
RX ANT . I see the waterfall of the JT65 program react to my switching
off the mast-mounted LNA. If that's the case, then the SignaLink is also
seeing the signal.

I however do not know if I have opened another can-of-worms by
connecting the Rx line to the KXV3 Rx-In connector.

Joel, I don't  see a Stereo input on the EMU0404 box. I'd only used it a
few days when I once wanted to try receiving a VLF station form Sweden.
I guess Stereo wasn't needed. I wanted the high sampling rate of the
0404, at the time then.


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[Elecraft] K1

2014-05-14 Thread CT1BWW
Hi ,

I am looking for a K1,  Four Bands , with ATU preferably with internal
battery options. 

If you have one available, please reply with your offer . 

If you are from Europe is most easy due the customs .

Thanking in advance

Marq ct1bww




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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLink from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 I however do not know if I have opened another can-of-worms by
 connecting the Rx line to the KXV3 Rx-In connector.

No, unless you forget to select the TX antenna when you're not
using the LNA feed.


Joel, I don't see a Stereo input on the EMU0404 box. I'd only used it
a few days when I once wanted to try receiving a VLF station form
Sweden.


The EMU0404 has four inputs and four outputs - they can be configured
as four mono in/four mono out or two stereo in/two stereo out.  In
either case you can connect input one to the tip  of Line Out and input
two to the ring of Line Out and receive both channels at the same time
with the proper software (or configure WSJT to use input two for the
Sub RX).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/14/2014 10:05 AM, Bob KD7YZ wrote:

Well gee ... when I ordered the K3, I got it loaded because I
correctly figured that eventually (A) I'd need some other non-usual
aspect for my weak signal stuff.  And (B) that I would eventually figure
out how to read thee manual and also understand (eventually) what I just
read.

That said, I might have just discovered what the installed KXV3 module
could be used for.

I just plugged the Rx Down-Line into the KXV3 BNC Rx Ant In.

I am now hearing signals from the antenna by selecting K3 front-panel
RX ANT . I see the waterfall of the JT65 program react to my switching
off the mast-mounted LNA. If that's the case, then the SignaLink is also
seeing the signal.

I however do not know if I have opened another can-of-worms by
connecting the Rx line to the KXV3 Rx-In connector.

Joel, I don't  see a Stereo input on the EMU0404 box. I'd only used it a
few days when I once wanted to try receiving a VLF station form Sweden.
I guess Stereo wasn't needed. I wanted the high sampling rate of the
0404, at the time then.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: PSK31 will not allow Split operation

2014-05-14 Thread Wes (N7WS)

There's nothing to correct, split works fine on Data A.

Worked W1AW/0 on PSK63, split on the first call the other day.  My first PSK63 
QSO... I liked it, very snappy compared to the watching paint dry PSK31.


You do need to insure that the B vfo is on the same mode as the A.  Double 
tap A-B to insure this.


Wes  N7WS

On 5/13/2014 10:51 PM, Richard Solomon wrote:

Most, if not all radios I have seen, going split is NOT mode dependent.
This should be corrected ASAP.

73, Dick, W1KSZ


On 5/13/2014 7:40 PM, Scott via Elecraft wrote:
You can run split if you use a program like fldigi.  I worked WIAW/0 this 
afternoon this way.  I believe any program with a waterfall can run 
split--that is not the same as direct readout on the screen, but it is better 
than nothing.


73, Scott. AA0AA

PSK31 SPLIT:

Folks,

It seems the solution is there is no solution. PSK31 SPLIT appears 
unsupported in the K3 and the KX3. The argument seems to be PSK31 is never 
used in SPLIT operation. But W1AW/* uses Split for pileups. And many 
DXpeditions have used it (T32C for instance). While I rarely use any digital 
mode other than CW, I thought it was nifty to have RTTY and PSK31 as part of 
the K3. Turns out it is near nifty. :)


Ah, but maybe SPLIT for PSK31 is on on the list of things to come later? or 
have I missed something?


?Bob W1XT, Sun City West, Arizona


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[Elecraft] XV50 for trade

2014-05-14 Thread Mike Sanders
I have a clean working XV50 no problems that I would like to trade for an
XV432.
Anyone interested? 73, Mike K0AZ   k...@centurytel.net

 

 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: PSK31 will not allow Split operation

2014-05-14 Thread Sam Morgan

split works fine for DATA A, AFSK A, and FSK D

but it does *NOT* for PSK D

the question is...
why was this one digital mode not allowed to operate split?

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On 5/14/2014 11:15 AM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:

There's nothing to correct, split works fine on Data A.

Worked W1AW/0 on PSK63, split on the first call the other day.  My first
PSK63 QSO... I liked it, very snappy compared to the watching paint dry
PSK31.

You do need to insure that the B vfo is on the same mode as the A.
Double tap A-B to insure this.

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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLonk from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Wes (N7WS)

Well, they do say opinions are like...

Shout all you want, but it is not imperative that you have a separate sound 
card.  The computer's integrated sound card can be dedicated to ham radio.  
Keeping Windows sounds from playing through the radio is no different from not 
transmitting outside the band.  It's something that is supposed to be in our 
skill set.


I have both a SignaLink and a Tascam US-100 (highly recommended by Jim Brown).  
On RTTY, neither of these is either better, or worse, than the built-in card in 
my laptop, and both require a USB port, something in short supply.


It's curious that we have this relatively tiny box of a radio that suffers from 
poor ergonomics because of it and then we're supposed to festoon it with dongles 
to make it play.


Wes  N7WS

On 5/14/2014 3:09 AM, Joel Black wrote:

[snip]

This is not directed at you, but it is a preemptive statement to those who 
will say you do not *need* the SignaLink: I apologize in advance for 
shouting, YOU NEED A SOUND CARD THAT IS DEDICATED TO AMATEUR RADIO AND 
*SEPARATE* FROM YOUR MAIN SOUND. Just yesterday, on 20 m JT65, I heard 
someone's WinXP shutdown sound over the air. You spent a couple of thousand 
on the K3, please be kind enough to the rest of us to spend another $100 or so 
and get a nice sound card. Yes, you'll hear all day that the K3 has the 
ability to take audio directly from the sound card. It is a wonderful feature. 
I use it. I use it with an amateur radio-dedicated sound card only.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3: PSK31 will not allow Split operation

2014-05-14 Thread Wes (N7WS)

I stand corrected.  You are correct. Why, I don't know.

Personally, I would never try to operate these internal digi modes.  I can't 
send decent CW with the built-in keyer, I shudder to think what my digital 
signals would be :-)


Wes  N7WS


On 5/14/2014 9:34 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:

split works fine for DATA A, AFSK A, and FSK D

but it does *NOT* for PSK D

the question is...
why was this one digital mode not allowed to operate split?



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[Elecraft] KAT500 Tuning Issue with V1.67

2014-05-14 Thread KM4VX
Since updating to 1.67 my KAT500 tuner is behaving strangely. It won't tune
my 40 meter dipole on auto and when the KAT500 is placed in bypass the
K3 autotuner tunes the same antenna perfectly. I have tried different coax,
but the K3 autotuner at 25 watts output tunes the antenna nicely while the
KAT500 does not. Both the KAT500 and the W2 wattmeter go nuts when I try and
tune the 40 meter dipole through the KAT500. In KAT500  bypass the meters
on the KAT500 and W2 continue to show very high SWR but the K3 autotuner
works fine and presents a perfect SWR to the K3. The KAT500 has no problem
with the higher bands. My KX3 tunes this same 40 meter dipole through the
KXPA100 with no problem. It must be something in the KAT500.  Anyone else
having this problem? Is this a problem with V1.67? Thanks Ron KM4VX



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: PSK31 will not allow Split operation

2014-05-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


This one digital mode is used *only* for PSK from paddles.  If one
needs to do split PSK31 use DATA A with the computer and either split
audio tones from the computer PSK31 program (DM-780, MixW, WinWarbler,
DigiPan, etc.) or split VFOs like any other mode.

With PSK D one can not monitor the transmit frequency to make sure it
is clear if split.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/14/2014 12:34 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:

split works fine for DATA A, AFSK A, and FSK D

but it does *NOT* for PSK D

the question is...
why was this one digital mode not allowed to operate split?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: PSK31 will not allow Split operation

2014-05-14 Thread Frank Precissi
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:

 This one digital mode is used *only* for PSK from paddles.


What about PSK via the P3/SVGA?  I thought it uses PSK-D.

Frank
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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLonk from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 It's curious that we have this relatively tiny box of a radio that
 suffers from poor ergonomics because of it and then we're supposed to
 festoon it with dongles to make it play.

That's unfair and untrue ... there is a distinct disadvantage to
building every option under the sun into a transceiver.  The biggest
is that all users pay more for the transceiver *and* the built-in
options (compare the panadapter in an FT-1200 to the P3 or SDR-IQ)
are far inferior to the best of breed that can often be had for
little more than the amortized cost of the built-in feature.

If one took your prescription, the K3 would only be available in one
configuration - with all options built-in at double the price of the
base unit.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/14/2014 12:42 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:

Well, they do say opinions are like...

Shout all you want, but it is not imperative that you have a separate
sound card.  The computer's integrated sound card can be dedicated to
ham radio. Keeping Windows sounds from playing through the radio is no
different from not transmitting outside the band.  It's something that
is supposed to be in our skill set.

I have both a SignaLink and a Tascam US-100 (highly recommended by Jim
Brown). On RTTY, neither of these is either better, or worse, than the
built-in card in my laptop, and both require a USB port, something in
short supply.

It's curious that we have this relatively tiny box of a radio that
suffers from poor ergonomics because of it and then we're supposed to
festoon it with dongles to make it play.

Wes  N7WS

On 5/14/2014 3:09 AM, Joel Black wrote:

[snip]

This is not directed at you, but it is a preemptive statement to those
who will say you do not *need* the SignaLink: I apologize in advance
for shouting, YOU NEED A SOUND CARD THAT IS DEDICATED TO AMATEUR
RADIO AND *SEPARATE* FROM YOUR MAIN SOUND. Just yesterday, on 20 m
JT65, I heard someone's WinXP shutdown sound over the air. You spent
a couple of thousand on the K3, please be kind enough to the rest of
us to spend another $100 or so and get a nice sound card. Yes, you'll
hear all day that the K3 has the ability to take audio directly from
the sound card. It is a wonderful feature. I use it. I use it with an
amateur radio-dedicated sound card only.



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[Elecraft] Microbit boxs

2014-05-14 Thread Ron Gould
Anyone having success hooking up remotely through these boxes in a hotel?  
Please advise on how your doing so to get by the log in process hotels require. 
 

73’s

Ron
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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLonk from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Well now, *that* is untrue.  If you think that is my prescription then so be 
it, but that's not what I said.  Nothing precludes additional features from 
being options, which aren't necessary for modes one is not interested in.


That said, I don't think that a transceiver that is supposed to be 
state-of-the-art should have to have an extra cost (and bulky) dongle hanging 
off the back just to have acceptable receiver performance on ten and six meters, 
just for example.



On 5/14/2014 11:41 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


 It's curious that we have this relatively tiny box of a radio that
 suffers from poor ergonomics because of it and then we're supposed to
 festoon it with dongles to make it play.

That's unfair and untrue ... there is a distinct disadvantage to
building every option under the sun into a transceiver.  The biggest
is that all users pay more for the transceiver *and* the built-in
options (compare the panadapter in an FT-1200 to the P3 or SDR-IQ)
are far inferior to the best of breed that can often be had for
little more than the amortized cost of the built-in feature.

If one took your prescription, the K3 would only be available in one
configuration - with all options built-in at double the price of the
base unit.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/14/2014 12:42 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:

Well, they do say opinions are like...

Shout all you want, but it is not imperative that you have a separate
sound card.  The computer's integrated sound card can be dedicated to
ham radio. Keeping Windows sounds from playing through the radio is no
different from not transmitting outside the band.  It's something that
is supposed to be in our skill set.

I have both a SignaLink and a Tascam US-100 (highly recommended by Jim
Brown). On RTTY, neither of these is either better, or worse, than the
built-in card in my laptop, and both require a USB port, something in
short supply.

It's curious that we have this relatively tiny box of a radio that
suffers from poor ergonomics because of it and then we're supposed to
festoon it with dongles to make it play.

Wes  N7WS



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[Elecraft] I made it to dayton

2014-05-14 Thread Gerry leary


Sent from my iPhone this time well I made it to Dayton everything is fine I 
think my Elecraft actually made it through checked luggage I haven't opened it 
and turned it on yet but I will soon.
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Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLonk from Sub-Rx on my K3

2014-05-14 Thread Jim Rogers
Well now, let's determine what is acceptable receiver performance. If 
all I want is to work some openings on 10 and 6, the K3 can hold its on 
with anyone in my experience.  Certainly it out performs the IC-9100.  
For weak signal work,  a preamp is a welcome addition. I use ARR 
P50VDG on 6m and ARR P144VDG on 2m mounted on transfer panels along with 
appropriate RF amplifiers and a couple of multi-element beams.


Jim, W4ATK
K-Line

On 5/14/2014 2:41 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
Well now, *that* is untrue.  If you think that is my prescription 
then so be it, but that's not what I said.  Nothing precludes 
additional features from being options, which aren't necessary for 
modes one is not interested in.


That said, I don't think that a transceiver that is supposed to be 
state-of-the-art should have to have an extra cost (and bulky) 
dongle hanging off the back just to have acceptable receiver 
performance on ten and six meters, just for example.



On 5/14/2014 11:41 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


 It's curious that we have this relatively tiny box of a radio that
 suffers from poor ergonomics because of it and then we're supposed to
 festoon it with dongles to make it play.

That's unfair and untrue ... there is a distinct disadvantage to
building every option under the sun into a transceiver.  The biggest
is that all users pay more for the transceiver *and* the built-in
options (compare the panadapter in an FT-1200 to the P3 or SDR-IQ)
are far inferior to the best of breed that can often be had for
little more than the amortized cost of the built-in feature.

If one took your prescription, the K3 would only be available in one
configuration - with all options built-in at double the price of the
base unit.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/14/2014 12:42 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:

Well, they do say opinions are like...

Shout all you want, but it is not imperative that you have a separate
sound card.  The computer's integrated sound card can be dedicated to
ham radio. Keeping Windows sounds from playing through the radio is no
different from not transmitting outside the band.  It's something that
is supposed to be in our skill set.

I have both a SignaLink and a Tascam US-100 (highly recommended by Jim
Brown). On RTTY, neither of these is either better, or worse, than the
built-in card in my laptop, and both require a USB port, something in
short supply.

It's curious that we have this relatively tiny box of a radio that
suffers from poor ergonomics because of it and then we're supposed to
festoon it with dongles to make it play.

Wes  N7WS



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Re: [Elecraft] XV50 for trade

2014-05-14 Thread David G4DMP
Mike - Assuming your XV50 has the latest PA output module (RA30H0608M)
you might like to consider modifying it for 4 metres in readiness for
when the FCC allocates the 70MHz band in the USA. I have had great
success with this.

http://www.g4dmp.co.uk/XV70mods.pdf

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Mike Sanders k...@centurytel.net writes
I have a clean working XV50 no problems that I would like to trade for an
XV432.
Anyone interested? 73, Mike K0AZ   k...@centurytel.net

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 121, Issue 29

2014-05-14 Thread Marty Green
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 -- Forwarded message --
 From: CT1BWW ct1...@clix.pt
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Cc:
 Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 06:28:51 -0700 (PDT)
 Subject: [Elecraft] K1
 Hi ,

 I am looking for a K1,  Four Bands , with ATU preferably with internal
 battery options.

 If you have one available, please reply with your offer .

 If you are from Europe is most easy due the customs .

 Thanking in advance

 Marq ct1bww




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 From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Cc:
 Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 11:23:12 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLink from Sub-Rx on my K3

  I however do not know if I have opened another can-of-worms by
  connecting the Rx line to the KXV3 Rx-In connector.

 No, unless you forget to select the TX antenna when you're not
 using the LNA feed.

 Joel, I don't see a Stereo input on the EMU0404 box. I'd only used it
 a few days when I once wanted to try receiving a VLF station form
 Sweden.


 The EMU0404 has four inputs and four outputs - they can be configured
 as four mono in/four mono out or two stereo in/two stereo out.  In
 either case you can connect input one to the tip  of Line Out and input
 two to the ring of Line Out and receive both channels at the same time
 with the proper software (or configure WSJT to use input two for the
 Sub RX).

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 5/14/2014 10:05 AM, Bob KD7YZ wrote:

 Well gee ... when I ordered the K3, I got it loaded because I
 correctly figured that eventually (A) I'd need some other non-usual
 aspect for my weak signal stuff.  And (B) that I would eventually figure
 out how to read thee manual and also understand (eventually) what I just
 read.

 That said, I might have just discovered what the installed KXV3 module
 could be used for.

 I just plugged the Rx Down-Line into the KXV3 BNC Rx Ant In.

 I am now hearing signals from the antenna by selecting K3 front-panel
 RX ANT . I see the waterfall of the JT65 program react to my switching
 off the mast-mounted LNA. If that's the case, then the SignaLink is also
 seeing the signal.

 I however do not know if I have opened another can-of-worms by
 connecting the Rx line to the KXV3 Rx-In connector.

 Joel, I don't  see a Stereo input on the EMU0404 box. I'd only used it a
 few days when I once wanted to try receiving a VLF station form Sweden.
 I guess Stereo wasn't needed. I wanted the high sampling rate of the
 0404, at the time then.




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 121, Issue 29

2014-05-14 Thread Marty Green
Ooo
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2. Re: Need Audio for SignaLink from Sub-Rx on my K3
   (Joe Subich, W4TV)


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: CT1BWW ct1...@clix.pt
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Cc:
 Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 06:28:51 -0700 (PDT)
 Subject: [Elecraft] K1
 Hi ,

 I am looking for a K1,  Four Bands , with ATU preferably with internal
 battery options.

 If you have one available, please reply with your offer .

 If you are from Europe is most easy due the customs .

 Thanking in advance

 Marq ct1bww




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 From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Cc:
 Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 11:23:12 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need Audio for SignaLink from Sub-Rx on my K3

  I however do not know if I have opened another can-of-worms by
  connecting the Rx line to the KXV3 Rx-In connector.

 No, unless you forget to select the TX antenna when you're not
 using the LNA feed.

  Joel, I don't see a Stereo input on the EMU0404 box. I'd only used it
 a few days when I once wanted to try receiving a VLF station form
 Sweden.


 The EMU0404 has four inputs and four outputs - they can be configured
 as four mono in/four mono out or two stereo in/two stereo out.  In
 either case you can connect input one to the tip  of Line Out and input
 two to the ring of Line Out and receive both channels at the same time
 with the proper software (or configure WSJT to use input two for the
 Sub RX).

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 5/14/2014 10:05 AM, Bob KD7YZ wrote:

 Well gee ... when I ordered the K3, I got it loaded because I
 correctly figured that eventually (A) I'd need some other non-usual
 aspect for my weak signal stuff.  And (B) that I would eventually figure
 out how to read thee manual and also understand (eventually) what I just
 read.

 That said, I might have just discovered what the installed KXV3 module
 could be used for.

 I just plugged the Rx Down-Line into the KXV3 BNC Rx Ant In.

 I am now hearing signals from the antenna by selecting K3 front-panel
 RX ANT . I see the waterfall of the JT65 program react to my switching
 off the mast-mounted LNA. If that's the case, then the SignaLink is also
 seeing the signal.

 I however do not know if I have opened another can-of-worms by
 connecting the Rx line to the KXV3 Rx-In connector.

 Joel, I don't  see a Stereo input on the EMU0404 box. I'd only used it a
 few days when I once wanted to try receiving a VLF station form Sweden.
 I guess Stereo wasn't needed. I wanted the high sampling rate of the
 0404, at the time then.




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[Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread HREFAB
I notice that I can often hear CW on SSB but when I switch to CW, the signal
is lost. I'm talking about very strong signals, not stuff in the background.
Is there something that I'm doing wrong to not be able to copy them on CW?



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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread Bruce Beford
Assuming a K3 (not given in subject line):
Possibly a case where the sideband received when on SSB is opposite what it
is when switching to CW (for the given band). You could try switching to
CW-R (for reverse).
Bruce N1RX

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

I notice that I can often hear CW on SSB but when I switch to CW, the signal
is lost. I'm talking about very strong signals, not stuff in the background.
Is there something that I'm doing wrong to not be able to copy them on CW?





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Re: [Elecraft] XV50 for trade

2014-05-14 Thread Bruce Beford
Thanks for sharing this, David.
I don't know when or if we will ever get a 4M allocation in this country.
But, I downloaded your write-up, just in case. I have an XV50 that
languishes here. I'll have to pull the cover off and see which power module
is in it.
Cheers,
Bruce
N1RX

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G4DMP
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 4:33 PM
To: Mike Sanders
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XV50 for trade

Mike - Assuming your XV50 has the latest PA output module (RA30H0608M)
you might like to consider modifying it for 4 metres in readiness for
when the FCC allocates the 70MHz band in the USA. I have had great
success with this.

http://www.g4dmp.co.uk/XV70mods.pdf

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Mike Sanders k...@centurytel.net writes
I have a clean working XV50 no problems that I would like to trade for an
XV432.
Anyone interested? 73, Mike K0AZ   k...@centurytel.net

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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread Oliver Dröse


And enable auto-shift in the menu when switching from CW to SSB and vice 
versa, otherwise you will still have to retune to get signal into the 
passband again.


73, Olli

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Am 14.05.2014 23:01, schrieb Bruce Beford:

Assuming a K3 (not given in subject line):
Possibly a case where the sideband received when on SSB is opposite what it
is when switching to CW (for the given band). You could try switching to
CW-R (for reverse).
Bruce N1RX

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Subject: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

I notice that I can often hear CW on SSB but when I switch to CW, the signal
is lost. I'm talking about very strong signals, not stuff in the background.
Is there something that I'm doing wrong to not be able to copy them on CW?





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[Elecraft] 7Q7WV

2014-05-14 Thread XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/n7589116/7Q7WV.png 


Here is a snapshot of my P3 screen when I worked 7Q7WV.  Into the noise but
still heard him and made the contact.







Keith, XE3/K5ENS



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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread HREFAB
Sorry for not identifying the mode (it's a KX3) now should be reflected in
the title. Anyway, thanks for the input. Switching to rev doesn't seem to
have any effect. Seems pretty odd to me that I can hear the signal on SSB
but not on CW (Not to say that I don't get CW signals, just that some which
appear on SSB aren't available on CW). Still looking for a solution.

THanks
Jim / KD2FIP



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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread Bruce Beford
More info might help, Jim.
Band, Freq, filter width settings? For example: Is it possible you are
hearing CW at a relatively high pitch while in SSB, and when you switch to
CW, it is just outside the (narrower) filter width?

Around hear, you mostly here CW with SSB at the lower end of 40M. There is
an age old Canadian SSB net that meets right about 7.055, where there is
also a lot of CW activity...

Bruce
N1RX

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of HREFAB
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:49 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

Sorry for not identifying the mode (it's a KX3) now should be reflected in
the title. Anyway, thanks for the input. Switching to rev doesn't seem to
have any effect. Seems pretty odd to me that I can hear the signal on SSB
but not on CW (Not to say that I don't get CW signals, just that some which
appear on SSB aren't available on CW). Still looking for a solution.

THanks
Jim / KD2FIP




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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread briana
This autoshift feature had the property of reporting the wrong spot 
frequencies after returning to CW mode.   Something like that..   I 
disabled it because of the problem.   This was when it was first 
introduced, this possibly has been fixed in updates.


73 de Brian/K3KO

On 5/14/2014 5:22 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote:


And enable auto-shift in the menu when switching from CW to SSB and 
vice versa, otherwise you will still have to retune to get signal into 
the passband again.


73, Olli

Contest, DX  radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de


Am 14.05.2014 23:01, schrieb Bruce Beford:

Assuming a K3 (not given in subject line):
Possibly a case where the sideband received when on SSB is opposite 
what it

is when switching to CW (for the given band). You could try switching to
CW-R (for reverse).
Bruce N1RX

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HREFAB

Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 4:52 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

I notice that I can often hear CW on SSB but when I switch to CW, the 
signal
is lost. I'm talking about very strong signals, not stuff in the 
background.
Is there something that I'm doing wrong to not be able to copy them 
on CW?






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[Elecraft] FS THP HL-45B amplifier

2014-05-14 Thread Howard Sherer
I have decided to sell my THP HL-45B amplifier. I use this with my KX3 
and it needs about 4 W to drive it to full output of 45W. I can drive 
the KPA 500 to full output with the KX3 running about 1W to the HL-45B. 
This is a very nice small 160-6M amp for any QRP radio. It features auto 
band selection only with the supplied cable for the FT-817.


Excellent condition $350. shipped to lower 48 states.
Howard AE3T

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[Elecraft] Fwd: FW: Fwd: Beyond Disrespect!]

2014-05-14 Thread Greg Leber
*Subject:*  Beyond Disrespect!]



*Beyond Disrespect!*



In the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham asked the Lord to spare the
city if he could find 50 righteous people. God responded to Abraham's plea
If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all
...Genesis 18:16-33

The movie  Corpus Christi  is due to be released this June to August. It
is a disgusting film set to appear in America later this year which depicts
Jesus and his disciples as homosexuals! As a play, this has already been in
theaters for a while. It's called Corpus Christi which means The Body of
Christ. It's a revolting mockery of our Lord. But we Christians can make a
difference.

That's why I am sending this e-mail to you. If you do send this around, we
just might be able to prevent this film from being shown in Canada and
America . Let's stand for what we believe and stop the mockery of Jesus
Christ our Savior. Where do we stand as Christians? I am forwarding this to
all I think will respect and appreciate being informed. Please help us
prevent such offenses against our Lord. There is no petition to sign, no
time limit, or minimum number of people to send this to…It will take you
less than 2 minutes!

If you are not interested and do not have the 2 minutes it will take to do
this, please don't complain if God does not seem to have time for you. *Imagine
what would happen if this film were depicting Mohammad in the same
way...the Islamic world would be in flames!!*. Apparently, some regions in
Europe have already successfully banned the film. All we need is a lot of
prayer and a lot of e-mails.

*JUST GET THE WORD OUT!*

Will God be able to find at least 50 righteous people who are willing
to express their concern and voice their opinion against this act of
blasphemy?













http://free.motitags.com/index.jhtml?partner=%5eB5J%5ezeb002_%5eB5J%5exdm014%5eYYA%5eus



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Re: [Elecraft] Microbit boxs

2014-05-14 Thread Mitch Wolfson DJØQN
This has been covered extensively on the RemoteRig forum. You can find a 
lot of material by using the search feature (keywords hotel, Starbucks, 
etc.)


For example:
http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php?topic=868.msg3490#msg3490
http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php?topic=953.msg3878#msg3878

73,
Mitch DJ0QN (in Dayton)

Mitch Wolfson
DJØQN / K7DX
Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn
Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436
Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378

On 14.05.2014 21:39, Ron Gould wrote:

Anyone having success hooking up remotely through these boxes in a hotel?  
Please advise on how your doing so to get by the log in process hotels require.

73’s

Ron
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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: FW: Fwd: Beyond Disrespect!]

2014-05-14 Thread Matt VK2RQ
Please do some research before forwarding scam chain letters like this one to a 
wide audience:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/gayjesus.asp

Always remember, the Internet is full of scams cleverly aimed at manipulating 
decent, well-intentioned people.

73,
Matt VK2RQ

 On 15 May 2014, at 12:53 pm, Greg Leber greg7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 *Subject:*  Beyond Disrespect!]
 
 
 
 *Beyond Disrespect!*
 
 
 
 In the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham asked the Lord to spare the
 city if he could find 50 righteous people. God responded to Abraham's plea
 If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all
 ...Genesis 18:16-33
 
 The movie  Corpus Christi  is due to be released this June to August. It
 is a disgusting film set to appear in America later this year which depicts
 Jesus and his disciples as homosexuals! As a play, this has already been in
 theaters for a while. It's called Corpus Christi which means The Body of
 Christ. It's a revolting mockery of our Lord. But we Christians can make a
 difference.
 
 That's why I am sending this e-mail to you. If you do send this around, we
 just might be able to prevent this film from being shown in Canada and
 America . Let's stand for what we believe and stop the mockery of Jesus
 Christ our Savior. Where do we stand as Christians? I am forwarding this to
 all I think will respect and appreciate being informed. Please help us
 prevent such offenses against our Lord. There is no petition to sign, no
 time limit, or minimum number of people to send this to…It will take you
 less than 2 minutes!
 
 If you are not interested and do not have the 2 minutes it will take to do
 this, please don't complain if God does not seem to have time for you. 
 *Imagine
 what would happen if this film were depicting Mohammad in the same
 way...the Islamic world would be in flames!!*. Apparently, some regions in
 Europe have already successfully banned the film. All we need is a lot of
 prayer and a lot of e-mails.
 
 *JUST GET THE WORD OUT!*
 
 Will God be able to find at least 50 righteous people who are willing
 to express their concern and voice their opinion against this act of
 blasphemy?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://free.motitags.com/index.jhtml?partner=%5eB5J%5ezeb002_%5eB5J%5exdm014%5eYYA%5eus
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: FW: Fwd: Beyond Disrespect!]

2014-05-14 Thread Matt Zilmer
This is likely to waste a lot of Elecraft's Internet bandwidth.  I say
that not because it's my own personal judgment thing, but because it's
inappropriate for this audience.

End the flame war before it starts.  Do not answer.  No
counter-arguments will be productive.  This thing is basically a chain
email, and may be list spam.  If you argue the point(s), it will be a
waste (also) of your own personal time.  The originator may be a net
ghost.

Eric is the list moderator.  I'm not.  This is a _request_ to the
originator and others that might respond.  Follow the list guidelines
(http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm).  The
guidelines make very good sense if you read them carefully.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Wed, 14 May 2014 21:53:08 -0500, you wrote:

*Subject:*  Beyond Disrespect!]
*Beyond Disrespect!*

In the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham asked 

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