[Elecraft] How to run linux utilities (K3, KPA etc.) on 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04
1. Launch synaptic and goto “settings Repositories” 2. click “other software add” 3. insert this line in the box deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse 4. click ok and close synaptic 5. in terminal “sudo apt-get update” 6. in terminal “sudo apt-get install ia32-libs” Now, all utilities working on my 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04. I hope this helps. Anyway, there is a need of 64bit utilities, they should be released as soon as possible. Also, the source code should be published. 73, Martin, OK1RR K3 #7554 KPA500 #1565 KAT500 #849 P3 #2752 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Activity in ancient 15-meter novice band (21.1 MHz)
Those running QRS need our encouragement. It must be very lonely for them since most of the CW ops are highly experienced and running QRQ. If we don't go out of our way to work them, they will -- and many probably already have -- go back to phone or just give up after endless unanswered CQs or endless searches for a QRS CQ. I operate about 50% QRQ with an iambic paddle and about 50% QRS with a straight key, usually seeking QRS CQs or sending a QRS CQ at 7050 to 7065 or 7100-7125. Operating QRS has advantages. With the decline of CW, it is often difficult to find a QSO. By being willing to work QRS stations you greatly increase your chances of a QSO. I often put out a CQ with the paddle and, if no cigar, switch to the hand pump. You meet some interesting people! Last year I worked a new ham on his FIRST CW QSO: yes, he actually took the time to learn the code on his own. I work many who have been QRT for years and finally got bitten by the CW bug again. The record so far is a gent that had been QRT for 54 years! It is fun! Pounding away on my ole J-38 again is just downright enjoyable and who cares if a QSO takes longer. If you care about CW, the best boost you can give it, is to work the QRS guys. So either slow down your keyer (I have found I can't do that -- if I try to slow the keyer down below 15 wpm, I make mistakes galore) or, better yet, drag out ye ole pump handle and pound away. It takes some practice to get your pump fist back, but when you do, I'll bet your will find yourself having a ball! (I would encourage non-selective CQs -- if you do have the good fortune to run into a new guy, he is probably not a member of one of the clubs.) Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Activity in ancient 15-meter novice band (21.1 MHz)
I keep throwing around the idea of trying to learn code again. When I got licensed as a no code tech, I stayed there for the first ten years because every time that I would try to learn code to upgrade, my brain was having none of it. Now that I've upgraded to General and I have access to more bands (where CW is still used) the idea is growing on me again. I am planning to purchase a KX3 in early July, and would love to know code so that I can play around on CW while QRP. Between attending college and other work related responsibilities, I'm not sure that is going to happen before I get my KX3. I would hope that if I learn the code, someone will slow down and have a QSO with a newbie... Joshua Gould K8WXA On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com wrote: Those running QRS need our encouragement. It must be very lonely for them since most of the CW ops are highly experienced and running QRQ. If we don't go out of our way to work them, they will -- and many probably already have -- go back to phone or just give up after endless unanswered CQs or endless searches for a QRS CQ. I operate about 50% QRQ with an iambic paddle and about 50% QRS with a straight key, usually seeking QRS CQs or sending a QRS CQ at 7050 to 7065 or 7100-7125. Operating QRS has advantages. With the decline of CW, it is often difficult to find a QSO. By being willing to work QRS stations you greatly increase your chances of a QSO. I often put out a CQ with the paddle and, if no cigar, switch to the hand pump. You meet some interesting people! Last year I worked a new ham on his FIRST CW QSO: yes, he actually took the time to learn the code on his own. I work many who have been QRT for years and finally got bitten by the CW bug again. The record so far is a gent that had been QRT for 54 years! It is fun! Pounding away on my ole J-38 again is just downright enjoyable and who cares if a QSO takes longer. If you care about CW, the best boost you can give it, is to work the QRS guys. So either slow down your keyer (I have found I can't do that -- if I try to slow the keyer down below 15 wpm, I make mistakes galore) or, better yet, drag out ye ole pump handle and pound away. It takes some practice to get your pump fist back, but when you do, I'll bet your will find yourself having a ball! (I would encourage non-selective CQs -- if you do have the good fortune to run into a new guy, he is probably not a member of one of the clubs.) Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jg.k8...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Activity in ancient 15-meter novice band (21.1 MHz)
Between attending college and other work related responsibilities, I'm not sure that is going to happen before I get my KX3. Do it while you're young. I suspect it would be very difficult to do when you get older and are retired. I know my brain is really fried when it comes to learning new things. I learned the code when I was in Cub Scouts (flash cards), but I learned CW when I was in Jr High and have loved CW ever since. I retired 2 yrs ago, so learning new is rough these days. Gary -- http://ag0n.net 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 NodeOp Help Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] How to run linux utilities (K3, KPA etc.) on 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04
Debian and Ubuntu changed the way they handle multi arch systems in their latest releases. Part of the change was to eliminate ia32-libs. Adding it from the repository of another release is not recommended. The right way to do it is: $ sudo dpkg —add-architecture i386 $ sudo apt-get update The to get a particular package: $ sudo apt-get install package:i386 where you replace “package” with the package name you need. All dependencies are automatically installed. For the Elecraft utilities this command suffices: $ sudo apt-get install libstdc++6:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386 libgtkhtml3.14-19:i386 gtk2-engines-oxygen:i386 A bunch of prerequisite packages will be automatically pulled in. 73, David W4DES On May 27, 2014, at 3:14 AM, Martin Kratoska mar...@ok1rr.com wrote: 1. Launch synaptic and goto “settings Repositories” 2. click “other software add” 3. insert this line in the box deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse 4. click ok and close synaptic 5. in terminal “sudo apt-get update” 6. in terminal “sudo apt-get install ia32-libs” Now, all utilities working on my 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04. I hope this helps. Anyway, there is a need of 64bit utilities, they should be released as soon as possible. Also, the source code should be published. 73, Martin, OK1RR K3 #7554 KPA500 #1565 KAT500 #849 P3 #2752 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w4...@sandersweb.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [K3] 700 Hz 8-Pole INRAD Filter 2014 Production Schedule (Order Now)
We are currently accepting orders for the next production run, which will be commissioned next Tuesday. Allowing 14 weeks for manufacturing, transit, customs, and processing -- it should arrive in early September. We will only be ordering about half the usual number of filters this time because we want to have another procurement cycle before the winter solstice holiday shopping season. Given its small size, this next batch will probably sell out by July. Our aim is for the subsequent lot to arrive the second or third week of November, and (hopefully) not sell out before the end of the year. --- - - - --- --- - - - --- --- - - - --- SPECIFICATIONS Overview o Center Frequency : 8125 kHz o Nominal Bandwidth : 700 Hz o 6/60 Shape Factor : 1.7 o Insertion Loss: 6 dB (note 1) Typical Passband Response (note 1) o 0.680 kHz @ -3 dB o 0.785 kHz @ -6 dB (note 2) o 1.030 kHz @ -30 dB o 1.340 kHz @ -60 dB Center Frequency Deviation o +/- 100 Hz worst-case, across all manufacturing lots (note 3) o +/- 5 Hz typical, within any given manufacturing lot (note 4) Notes: (1) Data extrapolated from the plot of a randomly selected filter. (2) According to INRAD, the -6 dB bandwidth can vary by +/- 15 Hz. (3) To date, the standard deviation of all batch-offsets is 41 Hz. (4) In contrast, Elecraft considers within 40 Hz a matched pair. --- - - - --- --- - - - --- --- - - - --- Visit http://www.unpcbs.com to order and for: pricing; availability; delivery status; terms of sale; shipping charges; passband response plot; user comments; FAQs; app notes; and a slideshow presentation illustrating and comparing the five INRAD CW bandwidths: 1000, 700, 500, 400, and 250 Hz. 73, Gary KI4GGX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Problems with erratic USB/serial connection
I have been using the KUSB USB/serial converter between my K3 and PC for both DXLab and n1mm. Lately, I have been having trouble with erratic frequency readings, mainly on n1mm but sometimes on DXLab. On n1mm, this seems to happen mainly when I change bands or after the radio has been in standby without transmitting for a while. I also have to run the USB at 19200 rather than 38400. I updated the Prolific driver with no effect. Anyone got a solution to this problem? Barring that, what are people using for a USB/serial converter now days since I have used the old KUSB for many years now? Thanks. 73, Dennis, K2SX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New k2 ghostlight mod!
Cool looks, I like that! - Sverre, LA3ZA K2 #2198, K3 #3391, LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-k2-ghostlight-mod-tp7589545p7589557.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Activity in ancient 15-meter novice band (21.1 MHz)
Joshua, I'm no expert on learning code, but I have discovered a few things. Most folk who want to learn code try and memorize the code and then try and translate to readable text. I found out, the hard way, that you work against yourself by doing this, It took me a very long time to figure this out. I found that if you train your ear to hear a certain sound and then react, like writing down what your hear, you can learn code with a whole lot less pain. For instance, the best way I have found is to use the Farnesworth method. That starts out at a speed of around 10-15 WPM with spacing equal to about 5 WPM. Overtime, the spacing is shortened, but the characters are still sent at the same speed that you started. What is happening is that you will continue to hear the same sound up to the speed that the characters were originally sent. You just learn to react faster, and that is much better than trying to react faster at the same time you are trying to figure out what the new sound is. I found this when I borrowed an Instructograph. That was a paper tape device Army CW ops once used. I had no idea what was going on initially. What I discovered was that the chracters were coming at me faster and faster over a session because the reel sizes changed over time making things faster. It worked for me, and now I can work CQ WPX CW at 25+ WPM. I can't QSO that fast, but contests work. CW IS fun and really gets through with almost no power. Best of luck. 73, Barry K3NDM On 5/27/2014 8:25 AM, Joshua Gould wrote: I keep throwing around the idea of trying to learn code again. When I got licensed as a no code tech, I stayed there for the first ten years because every time that I would try to learn code to upgrade, my brain was having none of it. Now that I've upgraded to General and I have access to more bands (where CW is still used) the idea is growing on me again. I am planning to purchase a KX3 in early July, and would love to know code so that I can play around on CW while QRP. Between attending college and other work related responsibilities, I'm not sure that is going to happen before I get my KX3. I would hope that if I learn the code, someone will slow down and have a QSO with a newbie... Joshua Gould K8WXA On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com wrote: Those running QRS need our encouragement. It must be very lonely for them since most of the CW ops are highly experienced and running QRQ. If we don't go out of our way to work them, they will -- and many probably already have -- go back to phone or just give up after endless unanswered CQs or endless searches for a QRS CQ. I operate about 50% QRQ with an iambic paddle and about 50% QRS with a straight key, usually seeking QRS CQs or sending a QRS CQ at 7050 to 7065 or 7100-7125. Operating QRS has advantages. With the decline of CW, it is often difficult to find a QSO. By being willing to work QRS stations you greatly increase your chances of a QSO. I often put out a CQ with the paddle and, if no cigar, switch to the hand pump. You meet some interesting people! Last year I worked a new ham on his FIRST CW QSO: yes, he actually took the time to learn the code on his own. I work many who have been QRT for years and finally got bitten by the CW bug again. The record so far is a gent that had been QRT for 54 years! It is fun! Pounding away on my ole J-38 again is just downright enjoyable and who cares if a QSO takes longer. If you care about CW, the best boost you can give it, is to work the QRS guys. So either slow down your keyer (I have found I can't do that -- if I try to slow the keyer down below 15 wpm, I make mistakes galore) or, better yet, drag out ye ole pump handle and pound away. It takes some practice to get your pump fist back, but when you do, I'll bet your will find yourself having a ball! (I would encourage non-selective CQs -- if you do have the good fortune to run into a new guy, he is probably not a member of one of the clubs.) Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jg.k8...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:
[Elecraft] Viva CW!
Joshua -- I would encourage you to do so. W1AW practice runs are great (are they still running? I haven't listened for quite some time . . . ); and when you feel up to it try to work in or even just listen in to a contest. Some of it will blaze by but over time it'll sink in. Best advice I had long ago was to not try to translate from dots and dashes to letters - rather, learn the way a character sounds, by constant repetition and listening, listening, listening. Maybe easier said than done, but you might find it worthwhile. The advantage is particularly noticeable with a QRP or even just a modest station. A good CW op can make up with skill for a lot of DBs forgone. And really good ops will ALWAYS go QRS to match a station calling them. Since being licensed in 1957 I can remember only two periods of two years each when I used phone (AM, at the time). Before and since it has been exclusively CW. In fact, before getting the K3 I had and still have a FT-847 and a FT-950 which may or may not even work on data or SSB - I've never tried them in those modes. (They are both for sale, in case anyone reading this is interested.) It's all a matter of taste, of course; but CW is mine. Best of luck . . . Ted, KN1CBR Message: 21 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 08:25:07 -0400 From: Joshua Gould jg.k8...@gmail.com To: Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com, Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Activity in ancient 15-meter novice band (21.1 MHz) Message-ID: CAHk01bC4by-YLjo6dLDmEb1HCHA+LBsLHW2UM=nmrvgqpv3...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I keep throwing around the idea of trying to learn code again. When I got licensed as a no code tech, I stayed there for the first ten years because every time that I would try to learn code to upgrade, my brain was having none of it. Now that I've upgraded to General and I have access to more bands (where CW is still used) the idea is growing on me again. I am planning to purchase a KX3 in early July, and would love to know code so that I can play around on CW while QRP. Between attending college and other work related responsibilities, I'm not sure that is going to happen before I get my KX3. I would hope that if I learn the code, someone will slow down and have a QSO with a newbie... Joshua Gould K8WXA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
I have mixed feelings about the recent trend to 'demand' Elecraft release their utility pgms for linux in 64 bit versions, in addition to the 32 bit versions they already release. Here are a couple of thoughts In most of my readings on different radio related forums as well as email groups, IMO the trend for computers used by the majority of hams in their shacks are the of the older 32 bit models. I say that based in part on the hue and cry about having to retire their XP machines and how stressed they are that they will have actually go out and to buy a newer (64bit) computer to use beside their $3k to $5k rigs. g Instead of adding to the Elecraft software guys load by asking them to build tailor made releases, when IMO their time might be better spent working on the coding for the many firmware upgrades we have requested for each of their growing list of products. Maybe some of the more knowledgeable *nix gurus on the list, could contribute a Distro specific howto write up for installation on their favorite operating systems (distros). Send it in and let Elecraft post the info on the pages in a paragraph right below the Linux utility links. === Something like K1JT has done for WSJT-X at the bottom of this page: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html quote Linux: Thanks to AC6SL and KA6MAL, packages for v1.1.1 r3520 on Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 are available at https://launchpad.net/~jnogatch/+archive/wsjtx Ubuntu Linux installation instructions: 1. If you have not obtained packages from this PPA (Personal Package Archive) before: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jnogatch/wsjtx 2. To obtain the latest version from this PPA: $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install wsjtx 3. You should also download kvasd and put it in the same directory as executable binaries wsjtx and jt9. Normally (after running the script /usr/bin/wsjtx once) this directory will be $HOME/.wsjtx /quote === === Or how about creating a PPA (Personal Package Archive) (complete with a how2 use it) and sharing their work with the folks at Elecraft so they can add those links. Like John Nogatch did here: https://launchpad.net/~jnogatch/+archive/wsjtx === === Another good example of what I would like to see, would be the multi distro help links found for Fldigi contributed by other found at the bottom of this page: http://www.w1hkj.com/download.html where you will find links to: quote Puppy / NBEMS How-To-Install RPMS for Open SuSE: Maintained by DL8FCL COPR for Fedora Maintained by Richard Shaw Open SuSE Spec files:Spec File Site Centos Spec files: Index of Centos NBEMS redhat SPECS Debs for Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/fldigi How To Install from Kamal's PPA Past versions of software Berlios archives Wiki for fldigi etc. /quote === rant on When I started using linux in 1994 or so, folks didn't go around demanding others do stuff for them, instead they *ask* what they could do to learn how to do it for themselves. In response the more knowledgeable folks ask what they could do to help create how2's so others could learn to do it for themselves. Seems the current batch of linux users have shifted from the point of helping themselves and others, to where they now *demand* _others_ 'do it for us' because they 'owe it to us'. /rant off -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New k2 ghostlight mod!
Easy to find your way around in the dark. Thanks for sharing that. 73's Gerald - KC6CNN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New k2 ghostlight mod!
Here are the YouTube links to the ghostlight mod of John, WT5Y: - K2 Backlight in Action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3VJ4fSA2_Q - K2 Backlight Details http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVWBGMMmT_A - Sverre, LA3ZA K2 #2198, K3 #3391, LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-k2-ghostlight-mod-tp7589545p7589563.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT]
I searched the net for programs that teach the code and there are a lot, mostly free. Since there has been some discussion of this on the ancient 15 meter posts, perhaps someone who has actually tried some of these programs can give those interested some recommendations. 73 Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Viva CW!
If you happen to have an Iphone, get the CWTEXT app. It has many tools for learning to copy CW, and you can use it anytime you have a few minutes. If you like fairy tales, it will tell you those in Morse too. It has helped speed me up quite a bit. Might be similar programs for Android, but I'm not familiar with them. 73 Chip AE5KA On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu wrote: Joshua -- I would encourage you to do so. W1AW practice runs are great (are they still running? I haven't listened for quite some time . . . ); and when you feel up to it try to work in or even just listen in to a contest. Some of it will blaze by but over time it'll sink in. Best advice I had long ago was to not try to translate from dots and dashes to letters - rather, learn the way a character sounds, by constant repetition and listening, listening, listening. Maybe easier said than done, but you might find it worthwhile. The advantage is particularly noticeable with a QRP or even just a modest station. A good CW op can make up with skill for a lot of DBs forgone. And really good ops will ALWAYS go QRS to match a station calling them. Since being licensed in 1957 I can remember only two periods of two years each when I used phone (AM, at the time). Before and since it has been exclusively CW. In fact, before getting the K3 I had and still have a FT-847 and a FT-950 which may or may not even work on data or SSB - I've never tried them in those modes. (They are both for sale, in case anyone reading this is interested.) It's all a matter of taste, of course; but CW is mine. Best of luck . . . Ted, KN1CBR Message: 21 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 08:25:07 -0400 From: Joshua Gould jg.k8...@gmail.com To: Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com, Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Activity in ancient 15-meter novice band (21.1 MHz) Message-ID: CAHk01bC4by-YLjo6dLDmEb1HCHA+LBsLHW2UM= nmrvgqpv3...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I keep throwing around the idea of trying to learn code again. When I got licensed as a no code tech, I stayed there for the first ten years because every time that I would try to learn code to upgrade, my brain was having none of it. Now that I've upgraded to General and I have access to more bands (where CW is still used) the idea is growing on me again. I am planning to purchase a KX3 in early July, and would love to know code so that I can play around on CW while QRP. Between attending college and other work related responsibilities, I'm not sure that is going to happen before I get my KX3. I would hope that if I learn the code, someone will slow down and have a QSO with a newbie... Joshua Gould K8WXA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lightdazz...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Activity in ancient 15-meter novice band (21.1 MHz)
Hello Joshua, By all means, learn CW. It is never too late. I was QRT for 25 years and had to learn the Code from scratch. You can learn all the letters in 6 weeks practicing for 15 minutes per day. In another 5-7 weeks you'll absorb the punctuation and numbers.There are plenty of resources available on the Straight Key Century Club web site. http://www.skccgroup.com/ Our club has grown to more than 12,000 members since it was founded in 2006. There are monthly sprints and weekend operating events. Since everybody uses only straight keys or bugs, QRS is the order of the day. Give a listen tonight at Z on the following frequencies: *160 m, 1820 kHz* *80 m, 3550 kHz* *40 m, 7055 / 7114 kHz* *20 m, 14050 kHz* *15 m, 21050 kHz* *10 m, 28050 kHz* *6 m, 50090 kHz* Get in touch if you have any questions. 73, Charles N2SO On 5/27/2014 8:25 AM, Joshua Gould wrote: I keep throwing around the idea of trying to learn code again. When I got licensed as a no code tech, I stayed there for the first ten years because every time that I would try to learn code to upgrade, my brain was having none of it. Now that I've upgraded to General and I have access to more bands (where CW is still used) the idea is growing on me again. I am planning to purchase a KX3 in early July, and would love to know code so that I can play around on CW while QRP. Between attending college and other work related responsibilities, I'm not sure that is going to happen before I get my KX3. I would hope that if I learn the code, someone will slow down and have a QSO with a newbie... Joshua Gould K8WXA On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com wrote: Those running QRS need our encouragement. It must be very lonely for them since most of the CW ops are highly experienced and running QRQ. If we don't go out of our way to work them, they will -- and many probably already have -- go back to phone or just give up after endless unanswered CQs or endless searches for a QRS CQ. I operate about 50% QRQ with an iambic paddle and about 50% QRS with a straight key, usually seeking QRS CQs or sending a QRS CQ at 7050 to 7065 or 7100-7125. Operating QRS has advantages. With the decline of CW, it is often difficult to find a QSO. By being willing to work QRS stations you greatly increase your chances of a QSO. I often put out a CQ with the paddle and, if no cigar, switch to the hand pump. You meet some interesting people! Last year I worked a new ham on his FIRST CW QSO: yes, he actually took the time to learn the code on his own. I work many who have been QRT for years and finally got bitten by the CW bug again. The record so far is a gent that had been QRT for 54 years! It is fun! Pounding away on my ole J-38 again is just downright enjoyable and who cares if a QSO takes longer. If you care about CW, the best boost you can give it, is to work the QRS guys. So either slow down your keyer (I have found I can't do that -- if I try to slow the keyer down below 15 wpm, I make mistakes galore) or, better yet, drag out ye ole pump handle and pound away. It takes some practice to get your pump fist back, but when you do, I'll bet your will find yourself having a ball! (I would encourage non-selective CQs -- if you do have the good fortune to run into a new guy, he is probably not a member of one of the clubs.) Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jg.k8...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to charlestr...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT]
I've had good luck using K7QO's code course, http://www.k7qo.net, and G4FON's trainer app, http://www.g4fon.net. Tighe NK4I On 5/27/2014 1:43 PM, Lee Trout wrote: I searched the net for programs that teach the code and there are a lot, mostly free. Since there has been some discussion of this on the ancient 15 meter posts, perhaps someone who has actually tried some of these programs can give those interested some recommendations. 73 Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ -- Tighe Kuykendall NK4I | www.NK4I.com | Follow Me on Twitter: @NK4I ARRL Life Member, NAQCC #6467, FISTS #16746, SKCC #12217 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K2} MAB - anyone picking this up?
I'm willing to place an order for these boards under these conditions: These boards come 3 to a sheet from ExpressPC boards. You have to cut the three boards out with a shear to use them, then there are some other minor mods to each board as documented in the PDF I linked to above. The per order setup fee for this 4 layer board is very high at $276 minimum. If I order 6 sheets the order total will be $336. If 5 other people will each commit to buy a sheet of 3 boards for $56 I'll place the order. Each person would be responsible for doing with those three boards what they please, be that sell to friends, list members, or whatever. I'm not optimistic that enough will express interest, but its worth a shot. I emailed Tom Taylor's contact over a week ago but haven't heard back, so don't know whether or not Doug will be following through with those plans. So, if there is interest in this, let me know. Chip AE5KA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code
Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT]
For the iPhone, I strongly recommend the app Ham Morse, by AA9PW. It does both Koch and Farnsworth, also will send news reports to you in Morse. Very nifty. Don't know if it is also available for Android. --Oliver W6ODJ On 27 Jan. 2014, at 18:43 PM, Lee Trout trou...@gmail.com wrote: I searched the net for programs that teach the code and there are a lot, mostly free. Since there has been some discussion of this on the ancient 15 meter posts, perhaps someone who has actually tried some of these programs can give those interested some recommendations. 73 Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ojo...@metacosmos.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] New version of Win4K3Suite: New advanced radio menu settings
Version 1.600 of Win4K3Suite now allows you to access almost all K3 and KX3 regular and TECH mode menu items. In addition you can export all settings as well as the operating state of the radio to a file and import them at a later time. Ideal for cloning your radio for different contests etc.Here is a screen shot of this new functionality: http://va2fsq.com/?page_id=612 A consequence of having access to the radio menus, ESSB mode can now be used from within the software. Also included in this release is the ability to change the fan settings of the KPA500 by right clicking in the KPA500 box. Win4K3Suite inter-operates with almost all third party logging and digital mode programs such as Ham Radio Deluxe, DXLabs, Log4OM and supports the Microham router as well. It also has built in panadapter support for the KX3 and the P3 via webcam or hardware capture device. You can see the program in action here: https://www.youtube.com/user/tomb18ca If you have tried the trial in the past and wish to try it again, please send me an email and I will gladly provide you with a new evaluation license. Thank you for your support. 73's Tom va2fsq.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K2} MAB - anyone picking this up?
It does not have to be that expensive. The boards can be purchased using their 4-layer MiniboardPro service. The current cost is $98 plus $9.85 shipping for three identical panels. Each panel contains three MAB boards. So the cost per MAB board would be $11.98. I used a shear to cut out the individual boards. I believe Tom used a band saw. If there was sufficient demand it would make sense to convert the layout to use industry-standard Gerbers and place a larger order from a regular board house. The cost would then be very low. 73, Dave -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-MAB-anyone-picking-this-up-tp7589489p7589572.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
Hi Sam, My guess is that they just compile it for 64 bit, then turn around and compile the same software for 32 bit... I have never compiled for 64 bit, so I could be off base here. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 12:08 -0500, Sam Morgan wrote: I have mixed feelings about the recent trend to 'demand' Elecraft release their utility pgms for linux in 64 bit versions, in addition to the 32 bit versions they already release. Here are a couple of thoughts In most of my readings on different radio related forums as well as email groups, IMO the trend for computers used by the majority of hams in their shacks are the of the older 32 bit models. I say that based in part on the hue and cry about having to retire their XP machines and how stressed they are that they will have actually go out and to buy a newer (64bit) computer to use beside their $3k to $5k rigs. g Instead of adding to the Elecraft software guys load by asking them to build tailor made releases, when IMO their time might be better spent working on the coding for the many firmware upgrades we have requested for each of their growing list of products. Maybe some of the more knowledgeable *nix gurus on the list, could contribute a Distro specific howto write up for installation on their favorite operating systems (distros). Send it in and let Elecraft post the info on the pages in a paragraph right below the Linux utility links. === Something like K1JT has done for WSJT-X at the bottom of this page: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html quote Linux: Thanks to AC6SL and KA6MAL, packages for v1.1.1 r3520 on Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 are available at https://launchpad.net/~jnogatch/+archive/wsjtx Ubuntu Linux installation instructions: 1. If you have not obtained packages from this PPA (Personal Package Archive) before: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jnogatch/wsjtx 2. To obtain the latest version from this PPA: $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install wsjtx 3. You should also download kvasd and put it in the same directory as executable binaries wsjtx and jt9. Normally (after running the script /usr/bin/wsjtx once) this directory will be $HOME/.wsjtx /quote === === Or how about creating a PPA (Personal Package Archive) (complete with a how2 use it) and sharing their work with the folks at Elecraft so they can add those links. Like John Nogatch did here: https://launchpad.net/~jnogatch/+archive/wsjtx === === Another good example of what I would like to see, would be the multi distro help links found for Fldigi contributed by other found at the bottom of this page: http://www.w1hkj.com/download.html where you will find links to: quote Puppy / NBEMS How-To-Install RPMS for Open SuSE: Maintained by DL8FCL COPR for Fedora Maintained by Richard Shaw Open SuSE Spec files:Spec File Site Centos Spec files: Index of Centos NBEMS redhat SPECS Debs for Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/fldigi How To Install from Kamal's PPA Past versions of software Berlios archives Wiki for fldigi etc. /quote === rant on When I started using linux in 1994 or so, folks didn't go around demanding others do stuff for them, instead they *ask* what they could do to learn how to do it for themselves. In response the more knowledgeable folks ask what they could do to help create how2's so others could learn to do it for themselves. Seems the current batch of linux users have shifted from the point of helping themselves and others, to where they now *demand* _others_ 'do it for us' because they 'owe it to us'. /rant off __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3: Max out on 6m is 50w
I just tried this into both a 50-ohm dummy load and into an 8 element yagi. The yagi runs separate coax one for Rx and the other for Tx. In testing my previous question about Audio. which was dealing with the internal 6m board, I notice that if I tune the RF Power of the K3 to 100, that the Bars RF shows peaks at 50w despite what the RF-Power display claims as I turn the RF-Knob. The SWR indicator is one bar. Receive is great I don't see a related item in Config. -- Bob KD7YZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with erratic USB/serial connection
Elecraft switched to FTDI chips in mid-2010, so the Prolific driver isn't used for more recent cables. This page has drivers for both chips. http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#drvrs wunder K6WRU On May 27, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Dennis McAlpine dbmcalp...@earthlink.net wrote: I have been using the KUSB USB/serial converter between my K3 and PC for both DXLab and n1mm. Lately, I have been having trouble with erratic frequency readings, mainly on n1mm but sometimes on DXLab. On n1mm, this seems to happen mainly when I change bands or after the radio has been in standby without transmitting for a while. I also have to run the USB at 19200 rather than 38400. I updated the Prolific driver with no effect. Anyone got a solution to this problem? Barring that, what are people using for a USB/serial converter now days since I have used the old KUSB for many years now? Thanks. 73, Dennis, K2SX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org -- Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
Hi, I don't have any 32-bit machines, but 3 64-bit Linux machines. Only one of them seems to be running an old enough distro to have decent support for the legacy 32 bit libraries needed to run the KX3 utility. When I dist-upgrade that machine (which I will do soon) I may lose the ability to run the KX3 utility altogether. I'm hoping that Elecraft will start providing 64-bit Linux binaries very soon. I would be happy to assist such efforts in any way I can. I am sure that there are some reasons why Elecraft can not release the software under an open source licence, so that we can compile it ourselves. I have not yet spent enough time wondering about what those reasons might be to think of a good one, though :P Cheers, Darren, G0HWW On 27/05/14 18:08, Sam Morgan wrote: I have mixed feelings about the recent trend to 'demand' Elecraft release their utility pgms for linux in 64 bit versions, in addition to the 32 bit versions they already release. Here are a couple of thoughts In most of my readings on different radio related forums as well as email groups, IMO the trend for computers used by the majority of hams in their shacks are the of the older 32 bit models. I say that based in part on the hue and cry about having to retire their XP machines and how stressed they are that they will have actually go out and to buy a newer (64bit) computer to use beside their $3k to $5k rigs. g Instead of adding to the Elecraft software guys load by asking them to build tailor made releases, when IMO their time might be better spent working on the coding for the many firmware upgrades we have requested for each of their growing list of products. Maybe some of the more knowledgeable *nix gurus on the list, could contribute a Distro specific howto write up for installation on their favorite operating systems (distros). Send it in and let Elecraft post the info on the pages in a paragraph right below the Linux utility links. === Something like K1JT has done for WSJT-X at the bottom of this page: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html quote Linux: Thanks to AC6SL and KA6MAL, packages for v1.1.1 r3520 on Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 are available at https://launchpad.net/~jnogatch/+archive/wsjtx Ubuntu Linux installation instructions: 1. If you have not obtained packages from this PPA (Personal Package Archive) before: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jnogatch/wsjtx 2. To obtain the latest version from this PPA: $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install wsjtx 3. You should also download kvasd and put it in the same directory as executable binaries wsjtx and jt9. Normally (after running the script /usr/bin/wsjtx once) this directory will be $HOME/.wsjtx /quote === === Or how about creating a PPA (Personal Package Archive) (complete with a how2 use it) and sharing their work with the folks at Elecraft so they can add those links. Like John Nogatch did here: https://launchpad.net/~jnogatch/+archive/wsjtx === === Another good example of what I would like to see, would be the multi distro help links found for Fldigi contributed by other found at the bottom of this page: http://www.w1hkj.com/download.html where you will find links to: quote Puppy / NBEMS How-To-Install RPMS for Open SuSE: Maintained by DL8FCL COPR for Fedora Maintained by Richard Shaw Open SuSE Spec files:Spec File Site Centos Spec files: Index of Centos NBEMS redhat SPECS Debs for Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/fldigi How To Install from Kamal's PPA Past versions of software Berlios archives Wiki for fldigi etc. /quote === rant on When I started using linux in 1994 or so, folks didn't go around demanding others do stuff for them, instead they *ask* what they could do to learn how to do it for themselves. In response the more knowledgeable folks ask what they could do to help create how2's so others could learn to do it for themselves. Seems the current batch of linux users have shifted from the point of helping themselves and others, to where they now *demand* _others_ 'do it for us' because they 'owe it to us'. /rant off __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K2} MAB - anyone picking this up?
Thanks for pointing out my error Dave. I wasn't looking closely enough, and that makes it much better. I'll modify my proposal: I'll order three sheets for $110, so $37 each sheet with three boards. If two others will agree to buy a sheet of three boards for $37, I'll do it. Chip On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Dave KW4M gene...@bellsouth.net wrote: It does not have to be that expensive. The boards can be purchased using their 4-layer MiniboardPro service. The current cost is $98 plus $9.85 shipping for three identical panels. Each panel contains three MAB boards. So the cost per MAB board would be $11.98. I used a shear to cut out the individual boards. I believe Tom used a band saw. If there was sufficient demand it would make sense to convert the layout to use industry-standard Gerbers and place a larger order from a regular board house. The cost would then be very low. 73, Dave -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-MAB-anyone-picking-this-up-tp7589489p7589572.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lightdazz...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K2} MAB - anyone picking this up?
Chip - I am in for a three board sheet for $37. Thanks for picking this up. Lou W2ROW Chip Stratton wrote Thanks for pointing out my error Dave. I wasn't looking closely enough, and that makes it much better. I'll modify my proposal: I'll order three sheets for $110, so $37 each sheet with three boards. If two others will agree to buy a sheet of three boards for $37, I'll do it. Chip -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-MAB-anyone-picking-this-up-tp7589489p7589577.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
I have ubuntu 14.04, 64bit, and the elecract kx3 utility working... Here's how I installed ia32-lib: |sudo -i cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d echo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse ia32-libs-raring.list apt-get update apt-get install ia32-libs| rm |ia32-libs-raring.list apt-get update Got this from: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23182765/how-to-install-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts | On 5/27/2014 12:08 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: I have mixed feelings about the recent trend to 'demand' Elecraft release their utility pgms for linux in 64 bit versions, in addition to the 32 bit versions they already release. Here are a couple of thoughts In most of my readings on different radio related forums as well as email groups, IMO the trend for computers used by the majority of hams in their shacks are the of the older 32 bit models. I say that based in part on the hue and cry about having to retire their XP machines and how stressed they are that they will have actually go out and to buy a newer (64bit) computer to use beside their $3k to $5k rigs. g Instead of adding to the Elecraft software guys load by asking them to build tailor made releases, when IMO their time might be better spent working on the coding for the many firmware upgrades we have requested for each of their growing list of products. Maybe some of the more knowledgeable *nix gurus on the list, could contribute a Distro specific howto write up for installation on their favorite operating systems (distros). Send it in and let Elecraft post the info on the pages in a paragraph right below the Linux utility links. === Something like K1JT has done for WSJT-X at the bottom of this page: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html quote Linux: Thanks to AC6SL and KA6MAL, packages for v1.1.1 r3520 on Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 are available at https://launchpad.net/~jnogatch/+archive/wsjtx Ubuntu Linux installation instructions: 1. If you have not obtained packages from this PPA (Personal Package Archive) before: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jnogatch/wsjtx 2. To obtain the latest version from this PPA: $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install wsjtx 3. You should also download kvasd and put it in the same directory as executable binaries wsjtx and jt9. Normally (after running the script /usr/bin/wsjtx once) this directory will be $HOME/.wsjtx /quote === === Or how about creating a PPA (Personal Package Archive) (complete with a how2 use it) and sharing their work with the folks at Elecraft so they can add those links. Like John Nogatch did here: https://launchpad.net/~jnogatch/+archive/wsjtx === === Another good example of what I would like to see, would be the multi distro help links found for Fldigi contributed by other found at the bottom of this page: http://www.w1hkj.com/download.html where you will find links to: quote Puppy / NBEMS How-To-Install RPMS for Open SuSE: Maintained by DL8FCL COPR for Fedora Maintained by Richard Shaw Open SuSE Spec files:Spec File Site Centos Spec files: Index of Centos NBEMS redhat SPECS Debs for Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/fldigi How To Install from Kamal's PPA Past versions of software Berlios archives Wiki for fldigi etc. /quote === rant on When I started using linux in 1994 or so, folks didn't go around demanding others do stuff for them, instead they *ask* what they could do to learn how to do it for themselves. In response the more knowledgeable folks ask what they could do to help create how2's so others could learn to do it for themselves. Seems the current batch of linux users have shifted from the point of helping themselves and others, to where they now *demand* _others_ 'do it for us' because they 'owe it to us'. /rant off __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT]
I didn't use the G4FON software to learn the code (not much was available 55 years ago...except maybe the Instructograph), but I have used it for about 10 years to stay sharp. It will read any text file, either one you invent or one you find somewhere. I convert chapters from EPUB novels I bought for my nook to TXT format and listen to them in the truck or at night when my eyes are too tired to enjoy reading. I sometimes strip all punctuation (in NOTEPAD) except periods too. You can select character speed, Farnsworth speed, tone, QSB/QRM/QRN and even mix an entertaining and nostalgic QLF with speed/pitch dither, straight key, chirp and whatever. Highly recommended. I think the Koch method would make learning a snap. Eric KE6US On 5/27/2014 11:09 AM, Tighe Kuykendall wrote: I've had good luck using K7QO's code course, http://www.k7qo.net, and G4FON's trainer app, http://www.g4fon.net. Tighe NK4I On 5/27/2014 1:43 PM, Lee Trout wrote: I searched the net for programs that teach the code and there are a lot, mostly free. Since there has been some discussion of this on the ancient 15 meter posts, perhaps someone who has actually tried some of these programs can give those interested some recommendations. 73 Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
I wouldn't place XP users in the same category as linux users by any means. People hang on to there old XP boxes because its what they've always used and they are not inclined to dable in different OS's. Linux users, on the other hand, are more likely to try new things. They had to go download linux and install it themselves. 32 bit has no future. Not even in Windows. So sooner or later the right path is going to be 64 bit versions. I'm willing to bet that even right now, most linux users are on 64 bit versions. I probably have 15 working computers. I think only one is running 32 bit. Only because it's an older, small footprint, low power processor with only 2 gigs of memory. At least from my perspective, running linux, os-x and 4 flavors of Windows, it really seems like time to migrate to 64 bit. 73, Doug -- K0DXV On 5/27/2014 1:55 PM, David Patino wrote: I have ubuntu 14.04, 64bit, and the elecract kx3 utility working... Here's how I installed ia32-lib: |sudo -i cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d echo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse ia32-libs-raring.list apt-get update apt-get install ia32-libs| rm |ia32-libs-raring.list apt-get update Got this from: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23182765/how-to-install-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts | On 5/27/2014 12:08 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: I have mixed feelings about the recent trend to 'demand' Elecraft release their utility pgms for linux in 64 bit versions, in addition to the 32 bit versions they already release. Here are a couple of thoughts In most of my readings on different radio related forums as well as email groups, IMO the trend for computers used by the majority of hams in their shacks are the of the older 32 bit models. I say that based in part on the hue and cry about having to retire their XP machines and how stressed they are that they will have actually go out and to buy a newer (64bit) computer to use beside their $3k to $5k rigs. g Instead of adding to the Elecraft software guys load by asking them to build tailor made releases, when IMO their time might be better spent working on the coding for the many firmware upgrades we have requested for each of their growing list of products. Maybe some of the more knowledgeable *nix gurus on the list, could contribute a Distro specific howto write up for installation on their favorite operating systems (distros). Send it in and let Elecraft post the info on the pages in a paragraph right below the Linux utility links. === Something like K1JT has done for WSJT-X at the bottom of this page: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html quote Linux: Thanks to AC6SL and KA6MAL, packages for v1.1.1 r3520 on Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 are available at https://launchpad.net/~jnogatch/+archive/wsjtx Ubuntu Linux installation instructions: 1. If you have not obtained packages from this PPA (Personal Package Archive) before: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jnogatch/wsjtx 2. To obtain the latest version from this PPA: $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install wsjtx 3. You should also download kvasd and put it in the same directory as executable binaries wsjtx and jt9. Normally (after running the script /usr/bin/wsjtx once) this directory will be $HOME/.wsjtx /quote === === Or how about creating a PPA (Personal Package Archive) (complete with a how2 use it) and sharing their work with the folks at Elecraft so they can add those links. Like John Nogatch did here: https://launchpad.net/~jnogatch/+archive/wsjtx === === Another good example of what I would like to see, would be the multi distro help links found for Fldigi contributed by other found at the bottom of this page: http://www.w1hkj.com/download.html where you will find links to: quote Puppy / NBEMS How-To-Install RPMS for Open SuSE: Maintained by DL8FCL COPR for Fedora Maintained by Richard Shaw Open SuSE Spec files:Spec File Site Centos Spec files: Index of Centos NBEMS redhat SPECS Debs for Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/fldigi How To Install from Kamal's PPA Past versions of software Berlios archives Wiki for fldigi etc. /quote === rant on When I started using linux in 1994 or so, folks didn't go around demanding others do stuff for them, instead they *ask* what they could do to learn how to do it for themselves. In response the more knowledgeable folks ask what they could do to help create how2's so others could learn to do it for themselves. Seems the current batch of linux users have shifted from the point of helping themselves and others, to where they now *demand* _others_ 'do it for us' because they 'owe it to us'. /rant off __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with erratic USB/serial connection
Maybe the best move is to go with the latest FTDI serial -to-usb cable. They have improved quite a bit over 6 years or more. 73, Doug -- K0DXV On 5/27/2014 1:01 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: Elecraft switched to FTDI chips in mid-2010, so the Prolific driver isn't used for more recent cables. This page has drivers for both chips. http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#drvrs wunder K6WRU On May 27, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Dennis McAlpine dbmcalp...@earthlink.net wrote: I have been using the KUSB USB/serial converter between my K3 and PC for both DXLab and n1mm. Lately, I have been having trouble with erratic frequency readings, mainly on n1mm but sometimes on DXLab. On n1mm, this seems to happen mainly when I change bands or after the radio has been in standby without transmitting for a while. I also have to run the USB at 19200 rather than 38400. I updated the Prolific driver with no effect. Anyone got a solution to this problem? Barring that, what are people using for a USB/serial converter now days since I have used the old KUSB for many years now? Thanks. 73, Dennis, K2SX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org -- Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k0...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with erratic USB/serial connection
I had a computer failure. The old prolific KUSB would not work at all on new computer, even after loading newer drivers. A new FTDI KUSB from Elecraft solved the problems. Nu4c Doug Person via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: Maybe the best move is to go with the latest FTDI serial -to-usb cable. They have improved quite a bit over 6 years or more. 73, Doug -- K0DXV On 5/27/2014 1:01 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: Elecraft switched to FTDI chips in mid-2010, so the Prolific driver isn't used for more recent cables. This page has drivers for both chips. http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#drvrs wunder K6WRU On May 27, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Dennis McAlpine dbmcalp...@earthlink.net wrote: I have been using the KUSB USB/serial converter between my K3 and PC for both DXLab and n1mm. Lately, I have been having trouble with erratic frequency readings, mainly on n1mm but sometimes on DXLab. On n1mm, this seems to happen mainly when I change bands or after the radio has been in standby without transmitting for a while. I also have to run the USB at 19200 rather than 38400. I updated the Prolific driver with no effect. Anyone got a solution to this problem? Barring that, what are people using for a USB/serial converter now days since I have used the old KUSB for many years now? Thanks. 73, Dennis, K2SX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org -- Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k0...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@bellsouth.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with erratic USB/serial connection
Dennis, What Doug said and the fact that the Chinese plagiarized the Prolific chip a while back but didn't get an exact copy, so Prolific fixed their drivers to recognize the fake chips and stop working. That seems to have caused some people problems with even the legitimate ones like Elecraft sold originally. I wound up getting a USB programmer for one of the TYT handi-talkies that had the fake Prolific chip in it. Screwed up everything for a while. Then I found out that the TYT used the same type of cable the Kenwood ones do and I went to a real RS-232 programming cable cable from Kenwood that worked just fine. That could be the problem you're running into. Jim - W0EB -- Original Message -- From: Doug Person via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 5/27/2014 3:31:49 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Problems with erratic USB/serial connection Maybe the best move is to go with the latest FTDI serial -to-usb cable. They have improved quite a bit over 6 years or more. 73, Doug -- K0DXV On 5/27/2014 1:01 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: Elecraft switched to FTDI chips in mid-2010, so the Prolific driver isn't used for more recent cables. This page has drivers for both chips. http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#drvrs wunder K6WRU On May 27, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Dennis McAlpine dbmcalp...@earthlink.net wrote: I have been using the KUSB USB/serial converter between my K3 and PC for both DXLab and n1mm. Lately, I have been having trouble with erratic frequency readings, mainly on n1mm but sometimes on DXLab. On n1mm, this seems to happen mainly when I change bands or after the radio has been in standby without transmitting for a while. I also have to run the USB at 19200 rather than 38400. I updated the Prolific driver with no effect. Anyone got a solution to this problem? Barring that, what are people using for a USB/serial converter now days since I have used the old KUSB for many years now? Thanks. 73, Dennis, K2SX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org -- Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k0...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code [OT]
FIVE BUCKS for an iPhone app??! W1AW code practice transmissions as MP3 files. Incremental speeds from 5 to 40 WPM. Play them on your iPhone. Free. http://www.arrl.org/code-practice-files 73, Josh W6XU On 5/27/2014 11:22 AM, Oliver Johns wrote: For the iPhone, I strongly recommend the app Ham Morse, by AA9PW. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Learning CW
I have wanted to learn CW and be a ham since I was 8. I started and stopped 5 or 10 times in the next 52 years. I was finally licensed in Feb 2012 as a General and upgraded to Extra 6 months later, but I was old school enough to not consider myself a true ham until I could do CW, so I taught myself over a 3 month period and made my 1st CW QSO in Feb 2013. Paul N6EV, SKCC were a big help. I now have 250 countries worked, 204 confirmed on CW, almost all with a straight key @ 15-18 wpm. Most operators have been willing to QRS for me, some not. I just within the last 3 weeks transitioned to a paddle, and make too many mistakes, but most have been kind and forgiving. I use G4FON's free software and practice sending to a Begali CW Machine which is excellent and relentlessly unforgiving of mistakes. I just finished CW Academy level 2 class with Cap W0CCA. I highly recommend both SKCC and CW Academy, but CW Academy is booking 6-12 months in advance. It can be done, even with an old fart (62) like me. I feel like a kid again, realizing a 52 year old dream. Mandatory Elecraft content: I have a K3 #7588. Mike KD8RQE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Activity in ancient 15-meter novice band (21.1 MHz)
While I realize this is off-topic, I will state I operate my K3 and KX3 when working SKCC (Straight Key Century Club) ops. I am a member of SKCC and, although I am not active right now due to a bathroom remodel I'm doing mostly myself, I do enjoy operating the SKCC ops. There are various awards you can get and different levels of membership based on the number of SKCC ops you work if you're interested in that sort of thing. I am a QRS operator myself and I have never met an SKCC op who will not slow down to my speed. They also have monthly sprints which are a lot of fun. Now, being a member means when you QSO you do so with either straight key, cootie key, or bug - every dit and dah should be mechanically produced. I prefer a bug. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Their webpage is skccgroup.com. 73, Joel - W4JBB On 5/27/14, 7:17 AM, Lee Trout wrote: Those running QRS need our encouragement. It must be very lonely for them since most of the CW ops are highly experienced and running QRQ. If we don't go out of our way to work them, they will -- and many probably already have -- go back to phone or just give up after endless unanswered CQs or endless searches for a QRS CQ. I operate about 50% QRQ with an iambic paddle and about 50% QRS with a straight key, usually seeking QRS CQs or sending a QRS CQ at 7050 to 7065 or 7100-7125. Operating QRS has advantages. With the decline of CW, it is often difficult to find a QSO. By being willing to work QRS stations you greatly increase your chances of a QSO. I often put out a CQ with the paddle and, if no cigar, switch to the hand pump. You meet some interesting people! Last year I worked a new ham on his FIRST CW QSO: yes, he actually took the time to learn the code on his own. I work many who have been QRT for years and finally got bitten by the CW bug again. The record so far is a gent that had been QRT for 54 years! It is fun! Pounding away on my ole J-38 again is just downright enjoyable and who cares if a QSO takes longer. If you care about CW, the best boost you can give it, is to work the QRS guys. So either slow down your keyer (I have found I can't do that -- if I try to slow the keyer down below 15 wpm, I make mistakes galore) or, better yet, drag out ye ole pump handle and pound away. It takes some practice to get your pump fist back, but when you do, I'll bet your will find yourself having a ball! (I would encourage non-selective CQs -- if you do have the good fortune to run into a new guy, he is probably not a member of one of the clubs.) Viva CW! Lee K9CM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w4...@charter.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
* On 2014 27 May 13:44 -0500, David Cole wrote: Hi Sam, My guess is that they just compile it for 64 bit, then turn around and compile the same software for 32 bit... I have never compiled for 64 bit, so I could be off base here. I compile both Hamlib and Xdx on Debian amd64 (also Intel 64 such as Core Duo which I have on my laptop) and i386 distributions. As both use GNU Autotools to build (the other popular build system being cmake) the repsective packages, nothing special needs to be done when using GNU tools as the tools take care of these issues for the developer. As the Elecraft tools appear to use Wxwidgets and a few other common toolkits available on the average Linux distribution, I suspect a simple rebuild--perhaps even a cross build--is all that would be required. I don't have the Elecraft utilities installed on my laptop running Debian amd64 as I don't want to have to wade through double the package listings in Aptitude! Also, the box running Debian i386 is always hooked to the K3/P3 anyway. 73, Nate, N0NB -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with erratic USB/serial connection
My ancient Prolific USB to serial converters have been ported from XP to Windows 7 and recently to Windows 8.1. They work flawlessly - both versions of Windows installed the proper drivers with no direct intervention from me. You might uninstall the USB converter, unplug it, reboot and then plug in the converter and see if Windows installs it correctly. I have had success with this repair for problem devices in the past; including a back-up drive with Windows 7. 73 George AI4VZ -Original Message- From: Walter Underwood Elecraft switched to FTDI chips in mid-2010, so the Prolific driver isn't used for more recent cables. This page has drivers for both chips. http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#drvrs wunder K6WRU On May 27, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Dennis McAlpine dbmcalp...@earthlink.net wrote: I have been using the KUSB USB/serial converter between my K3 and PC for both DXLab and n1mm. Lately, I have been having trouble with erratic frequency readings, mainly on n1mm but sometimes on DXLab. On n1mm, this seems to happen mainly when I change bands or after the radio has been in standby without transmitting for a while. I also have to run the USB at 19200 rather than 38400. I updated the Prolific driver with no effect. Anyone got a solution to this problem? Barring that, what are people using for a USB/serial converter now days since I have used the old KUSB for many years now? Thanks. 73, Dennis, K2SX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
I really have to chuckle regarding all the various simple steps the Linux users go through to get their computers to speak to the K3. I have one machine set up for Linux - although I am not really sure why. Everything I do using a computer is so much easier on Windows - including control of all the parts of my K-Line. Download, install, and use - it doesn't get much simpler than that. It took me over an hour to get a simple WiFi printer operating on Linux Mint 17 this afternoon (driver issues). Took me less than five minutes on the Win 8.1 machine. I use a network for my printers and all the computers share the same printers - Windows and Linux. Having said all that, I cannot imagine spending a bunch of time getting Linux up and running with the K-Line software much less having faith in its ability to correctly operate/update the K-Line. I am not trolling, I really would like an honest answer as to why Linux is chosen over Windows for similar operations. I play with Linux and work with Windows. I have been dealing with computers and software design since the late 1970s - so I am not living in a cave. If you reply to my question - and all you are going to do is take me to the woodshed, then kindly don't bother. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [OT] Elecraft's Linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
I don't believe people load Linux just so they can spend time getting a computer to run Elecraft utilities. The use of Linux appears to be more of a philosophical endeavor than a strictly performance one. It's not too often that I hear someone say that they run Linux because they can't get a similar app on Windows. Windows runs on around 90% of the worlds desktops and laptops. OSX something less than 9%, Linux (all distros) less than 2%. One of the reason for Window's dominance is the (generally) simplified user experience, coupled with the broad software/comparable hardware availability. The two sides feed on and promote each other. i.e. a larger installed base of OS users makes for an attractive market for software/hardware creators. Of course, it also makes it a fertile hunting ground for malware creators, too... (My only post in this thread...) Bruce N1RX Sent from my ASUS Pad Bill W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I really have to chuckle regarding all the various simple steps the Linux users go through to get their computers to speak to the K3. I have one machine set up for Linux - although I am not really sure why. Everything I do using a computer is so much easier on Windows - including control of all the parts of my K-Line. Download, install, and use - it doesn't get much simpler than that. It took me over an hour to get a simple WiFi printer operating on Linux Mint 17 this afternoon (driver issues). Took me less than five minutes on the Win 8.1 machine. I use a network for my printers and all the computers share the same printers - Windows and Linux. Having said all that, I cannot imagine spending a bunch of time getting Linux up and running with the K-Line software much less having faith in its ability to correctly operate/update the K-Line. I am not trolling, I really would like an honest answer as to why Linux is chosen over Windows for similar operations. I play with Linux and work with Windows. I have been dealing with computers and software design since the late 1970s - so I am not living in a cave. If you reply to my question - and all you are going to do is take me to the woodshed, then kindly don't bother. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to bef...@myfairpoint.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
I can relate, Bill. I prefer Macs with OS X, but both have SSDs and both are dual boot with Windows 7 -- because there are things I can do that way but not in OS X. I also have two Windows machines -- a Win7 desktop I use for ripping CDs/DVDs and burning same (the fast optical drives are great as is the software), and a Win 8.1 laptop dedicated to the ham shack (and which I managed to look like a Win 7 computer because Win 8/8.1 is a beast, IMO). My two Linux machines are experimental, a Raspberry Pi (x2) and a Beaglebone Black. Fun, but not for my daily use. Elecraft is somewhat unique (I think) in provided support in their utilities for Linux: Good for them! I recently decided to make my Win 8.1 laptop dual boot (Win 8.1 plus Ubuntu). I ended up with an Ubuntu only computer; getting Win 8.1 back was a bit of a struggle so I'll not go there again. Phil W7OX On 5/27/14, 5:03 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: I really have to chuckle regarding all the various simple steps the Linux users go through to get their computers to speak to the K3. I have one machine set up for Linux - although I am not really sure why. Everything I do using a computer is so much easier on Windows - including control of all the parts of my K-Line. Download, install, and use - it doesn't get much simpler than that. It took me over an hour to get a simple WiFi printer operating on Linux Mint 17 this afternoon (driver issues). Took me less than five minutes on the Win 8.1 machine. I use a network for my printers and all the computers share the same printers - Windows and Linux. Having said all that, I cannot imagine spending a bunch of time getting Linux up and running with the K-Line software much less having faith in its ability to correctly operate/update the K-Line. I am not trolling, I really would like an honest answer as to why Linux is chosen over Windows for similar operations. I play with Linux and work with Windows. I have been dealing with computers and software design since the late 1970s - so I am not living in a cave. If you reply to my question - and all you are going to do is take me to the woodshed, then kindly don't bother. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
I have a 10 year old laptop that had Wxp. It now has Ubuntu Release 12.04 (precise) 32-bit... I like it. As Wxp I used the computer portable. I still use machine portable. I have KX3 utility and fldigi for software. Not all the stuff I had with Wxp, it works... I have been using Ubunto about 6-8 weeks. It's good. I started with computers in the late 60's. A 4K computer with a 32K disk was fast... I used Unix on the Cray to compile and run Fortran... I have used a Mac+ (in the attic) and entered machine code with switches on DEC computers. But, for Linux I have a son who is a senior at the UofDE in computer science who can help as it is easier. 73, steve WB3LGC On 05/27/2014 08:03 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: I really have to chuckle regarding . . . Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb3...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
At sometime in the 50's, the President of IBM is alleged to have said, The worldwide market for computers is probably about twelve. Apparently he didn't know Doug. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 5/27/2014 1:29 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote: I probably have 15 working computers. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K2} MAB - anyone picking this up? (Lou Voerman W2ROW)
I would like one of the boards. I would be willing to to pay for one of the three board sheets if no one comes forward to buy the second sheet. -Thanks Matt, N4MTT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] MAB board order now fully subscribed
I have takers for the two extra sheets of MAB boards so more volunteers not needed. Someone may be willing to let an individual board or two go, but I'm sure they will post it to the reflector when the time comes. 73 Chip AE5KA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
Steve, If you use that laptop 'standalone', and do not have to share files with other computers on a network, the Ubuntu or Linux Mint distros are quite usable. Firefox is an excellent web browser, and Thunderbird is a fine email application, add a calendering function with the Lightning plugin, and for work on documents, Open Office or Libra Office will give you all the capability that MS Office offers - BTW, those applications work quite well in Windows too for those who do not want to spend money to purchase MS Office - the GUI interface is almost the same, so any MS Office user will feel comfortable with the Open Office interface. All free of cost and Open Source applications. I recommend that for any computer that is currently running WinXP. The problems come in if the computer is part of a home network that must share files between the various computers on the network. The rub comes in when one wants to network computers, printers, and all other network things. Getting the Samba config file to have the necessary settings to talk with other Windows based computers and file servers is what has caused me difficulty in the past. I finally managed to create a Samba.config file that would allow me to view my Windows network, but the permission settings of all my files would have to be changed (they are shared to the entire Windows network) to allow read/write access from the Linux computer(s). In my Windows network, the files can be accessed and changed based on the Windows logon, but special steps are needed to allow the same functionality for access using Linux (i.e. I would have to change the file permissions for each and every file). This is not a good thing when my home network is an isolated unit where all files can be accessed by any computer on the network. With Linux, I have to set the file permissions to grant access on each and every file - it may be a security 'thing', but in my case it is a PITA. So, to keep it more On Topic, those running WinXP on the hamshack computers might want to load Linux Ubuntu or Linux Mint and use the Linux Utility programs. There are many Amateur Radio applications that can be used as well, certainly N1MM and such programs are only Windows based, but similar functionality can be found in Linux based applications. WinXP poses a security hazard if connected to the internet, so its continued use should be discouraged for computer security considerations. Moving to a currently supported OS is the only reasonable answer. Bottom line, if you want to keep your current Windows applications, upgrade to Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, but if you are willing to accept alternatives to the applications you are currently using under Windows, you may find alternatives running under Linux - it is a good OS, but has a learning curve if you want to do things 'out of the ordinary'. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/27/2014 9:16 PM, steve wrote: I have a 10 year old laptop that had Wxp. It now has Ubuntu Release 12.04 (precise) 32-bit... I like it. As Wxp I used the computer portable. I still use machine portable. I have KX3 utility and fldigi for software. Not all the stuff I had with Wxp, it works... I have been using Ubunto about 6-8 weeks. It's good. I started with computers in the late 60's. A 4K computer with a 32K disk was fast... I used Unix on the Cray to compile and run Fortran... I have used a Mac+ (in the attic) and entered machine code with switches on DEC computers. But, for Linux I have a son who is a senior at the UofDE in computer science who can help as it is easier. 73, steve WB3LGC On 05/27/2014 08:03 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: I really have to chuckle regarding . . . Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wb3...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net results for 5/25/2014
Here’s the net report for last Sunday’s SSB net. We had 28 participants over 19 minutes. Station NameQTH Rig S/N WB9JNZ EricIL K3 4017 KA0NCR Arnie NE K2 6673 W0CZKen ND K3 457 K8NUCarlOH K3 7976 NC0JW Jim CO KX3 1356 KF5YBE Lee TX K3 7771 KZ2RStanNY K3 5540 WA2LLN Art FL K3 6522 KF5IMA Bruce MS K2 3575 K4FIDougSC K3 6199 WW4JF JohnTN K3 6185 K4GCJ Gerry NC K3 1597 WN4SLG DougTN KX3 2915QRP AB7CE Roy MT KX3 115 QRP W7NMD Palmer AR K3 3779 KN5LJohnTX K3 7212 QRP W0SGM Scott IA KX3 3689QRP N6JWJohnCA K3 936 K6WDE DaveCA KX3 4599QRP W7JJL JohnWA KX3 993 QRP WB5JJA Ray OK K3 7877 AC6DM Dan CA K3 4457 K4JPM Jim AL KX3 660 NJ6LNealCA K3 4601 WV5IDwayne TX K3 5287 KK4QDZ BillNC KX3 4515 QRP K6IAHoward CA K3 6012 NS7PPhilOR K3 1826 73, Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Adjustment via CAT
Is it possible to adjust the K3 noise reduction level via CAT? I could not find reference to it in the Programmer's Manual. Any information on when/where that might be available would be appreciated. 73/Chuck/NO5W __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
And those computers Tom Watson was speaking of took a large controlled environment room just for the various pieces. It was certainly not a desktop computer. Desktop computers did not come into being until the advent of the IBM PC in the 1980s. I bought my daughter a new IBM PC with 2 floppy drives and 64k of ram for her to use in her college classes. It was later upgraded with a 5 MB hard drive which replaced one of the floppy drives (3.5 inch floppys). We have come a long way since that time. That system cost $2500 at the time, now I can buy a computer with a LOT more capability for less than $300. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/27/2014 9:43 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: At sometime in the 50's, the President of IBM is alleged to have said, The worldwide market for computers is probably about twelve. Apparently he didn't know Doug. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 5/27/2014 1:29 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote: I probably have 15 working computers. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Adjustment via CAT
Hi Yes it is possible but not if you are not actually programming via rs232. You have to issue a SWR command (or Swh I'm working from memory here) Cohen read the vfoa display with a Ds command and then issue the appropriate up and down commands. Same for vfob. If you have no way to read the DS value and do some programming logic you are out of luck. Hope this helps 73s Tom Original message From: Charles Sanders no5w.ch...@gmail.com Date: 27/05/2014 22:29 (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Adjustment via CAT Is it possible to adjust the K3 noise reduction level via CAT? I could not find reference to it in the Programmer's Manual. Any information on when/where that might be available would be appreciated. 73/Chuck/NO5W __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
He didn't know me but I knew him. Computers have been and to a large extent still are my life. When I'm done building another receiver, I build another computer and install another linux variation. I push them to their limits. Windows, in many ways, is always easier for main stream things. However, the other day, I pushed then Scan button on my multi-function printer to scan a photo, and Windows 8.1 Enterprise simply stopped responding to user actions. I couldn't even tell it to reboot. I had hit the power switch and restart it. Windows, regardless of the version, still has lots and lots of problems. It really is very unstable. It has gotten better, but has a LONG way to go to catch up to OS/X for example - which exemplifies Stable. Apple really does have a higher focus on stability and ease of use than Microsoft. Windows 8 is the biggest disaster Microsoft has ever managed to pull off. Makes Vista look like a success story. Windows 9 is due out the end of next year. Your guess is as good as mine what their plans are. Linux is a work of art produced by thousands of programmers across decades. It belongs to no one and everyone. When I use it, which is often, I feel a sense of pride that we, the elders, the senior of the most senior programmers, as a worldwide movement brought this incredible thing to life. It continues to grow and mature. Its vastly better than it was 10 years ago. Nothing is perfect. Driver problems are just as bad on Windows. If you got a printer to work on Windows - consider yourself lucky. There are now about 5 categories of drivers for Windows. You guess if your printer is supplied with the right driver for your version of Windows. To me linux is easy compared to Windows. I can find everything. There are no hidden databases of configuration information. And I'm not constantly assaulted by programs installing other programs that eventually clog up memory to the point where booting takes 10 minutes. Its my opinion that linux is the OS that every ham should learn and love. Its consistent and compatible with the spirit of ham radio. The do-it-yourself, build-your-own mentality that makes the hobby what it is. Linux is not hard and with a little patience it does everything that's important. Consider that Android is linux and that OS/X, for all its glory, is based on just another open source unix derivative. The unix-based OS base is winning and Windows is losing. The web is largely run on linux machines. So I vote for 64 bit ready Elecraft software because it is rapidly becoming the future of computing. 73, Doug -- K0DXV PS: Make that 16. I just built another one this afternoon. On 5/27/2014 7:43 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: At sometime in the 50's, the President of IBM is alleged to have said, The worldwide market for computers is probably about twelve. Apparently he didn't know Doug. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 5/27/2014 1:29 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote: I probably have 15 working computers. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k0...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Elecraft's Linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
Bill, You're correct. It feeds on itself. But consider that you sent your post from a linux computer. Is linux only 2% if you include tablets and phones? Android is the leader in smart phones by a wide margin - and Android is linux. Windows is losing ground rapidly. Windows 8 was an *attempt* to regain some traction in the tablet and phone market. But only an attempt. Now back to our regularly scheduled program. With the correct libs installed, the linux-based Elecraft Utilities work just fine. So does fldigi. Running Mint 16 Cinnamon on an Intel NUC with a 1.2 Ghz Celeron screwed onto the back of my monitor, I have an excellent radio desk computer. I'm not sure I could find a simpler user interface than Cinnamon. 73, Doug -- K0DXV On 5/27/2014 6:29 PM, Bruce Beford wrote: I don't believe people load Linux just so they can spend time getting a computer to run Elecraft utilities. The use of Linux appears to be more of a philosophical endeavor than a strictly performance one. It's not too often that I hear someone say that they run Linux because they can't get a similar app on Windows. Windows runs on around 90% of the worlds desktops and laptops. OSX something less than 9%, Linux (all distros) less than 2%. One of the reason for Window's dominance is the (generally) simplified user experience, coupled with the broad software/comparable hardware availability. The two sides feed on and promote each other. i.e. a larger installed base of OS users makes for an attractive market for software/hardware creators. Of course, it also makes it a fertile hunting ground for malware creators, too... (My only post in this thread...) Bruce N1RX Sent from my ASUS Pad Bill W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I really have to chuckle regarding all the various simple steps the Linux users go through to get their computers to speak to the K3. I have one machine set up for Linux - although I am not really sure why. Everything I do using a computer is so much easier on Windows - including control of all the parts of my K-Line. Download, install, and use - it doesn't get much simpler than that. It took me over an hour to get a simple WiFi printer operating on Linux Mint 17 this afternoon (driver issues). Took me less than five minutes on the Win 8.1 machine. I use a network for my printers and all the computers share the same printers - Windows and Linux. Having said all that, I cannot imagine spending a bunch of time getting Linux up and running with the K-Line software much less having faith in its ability to correctly operate/update the K-Line. I am not trolling, I really would like an honest answer as to why Linux is chosen over Windows for similar operations. I play with Linux and work with Windows. I have been dealing with computers and software design since the late 1970s - so I am not living in a cave. If you reply to my question - and all you are going to do is take me to the woodshed, then kindly don't bother. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to bef...@myfairpoint.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k0...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
On Tue, 27 May 2014 22:14:23 -0400 Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Steve, If you use that laptop 'standalone', and do not have to share files with other computers on a network, the Ubuntu or Linux Mint distros are quite usable. Firefox is an excellent web browser, and Thunderbird is a fine email application, add a calendering function with the Lightning plugin, and for work on documents, Open Office or Libra Office will give you all the capability that MS Office offers - BTW, those applications work quite well in Windows too for those who do not want to spend money to purchase MS Office - the GUI interface is almost the same, so any MS Office user will feel comfortable with the Open Office interface. All free of cost and Open Source applications. I recommend that for any computer that is currently running WinXP. The problems come in if the computer is part of a home network that must share files between the various computers on the network. The rub comes in when one wants to network computers, printers, and all other network things. Getting the Samba config file to have the necessary settings to talk with other Windows based computers and file servers is what has caused me difficulty in the past. I finally managed to create a Samba.config file that would allow me to view my Windows network, but the permission settings of all my files would have to be changed (they are shared to the entire Windows network) to allow read/write access from the Linux computer(s). In my Windows network, the files can be accessed and changed based on the Windows logon, but special steps are needed to allow the same functionality for access using Linux (i.e. I would have to change the file permissions for each and every file). This is not a good thing when my home network is an isolated unit where all files can be accessed by any computer on the network. With Linux, I have to set the file permissions to grant access on each and every file - it may be a security 'thing', but in my case it is a PITA. It's a PITA because you don't know how to do it properly. I can easily change the ownership/permissions of entire folders (including sub-folders) with only one command. (chmod -R a+rw /folder-name changes full read/write to ALL files in that folder). So, to keep it more On Topic, those running WinXP on the hamshack computers might want to load Linux Ubuntu or Linux Mint and use the Linux Utility programs. There are many Amateur Radio applications that can be used as well, certainly N1MM and such programs are only Windows based, but similar functionality can be found in Linux based applications. WinXP poses a security hazard if connected to the internet, so its continued use should be discouraged for computer security considerations. Moving to a currently supported OS is the only reasonable answer. agree Bottom line, if you want to keep your current Windows applications, upgrade to Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, but if you are willing to accept alternatives to the applications you are currently using under Windows, you may find alternatives running under Linux - it is a good OS, but has a learning curve if you want to do things 'out of the ordinary'. That learning curve is partially dependent upon the version of Linux. I use mostly openSUSE which I have modified (easily done) to work more like windows in most respects. 73, Don W3FPR snip I have been using/programming computers starting with a single board 8008 cpu with BASIC, assembler, C, COBOL, RPG, FORTRAN, along with machine code and have built over 40 systems from scratch. One reason that Linux is superior is that configuration files are kept as individual files in a central location, unlike the windows registry. Therefore, if one device config gets corrupted it doesn't screw up other device configs. 73 thanks, Tom KG7CFC -- Nobody grows old by merely living a number of years. People grow old only by deserting their ideals. - Douglas MacArthur ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 325.15) 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.9.2 registered linux user 263467 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
