[Elecraft] KX1 Flight Deck - Photos

2014-06-09 Thread Richard Newstead
Hi Folks

The first shipment of KX1 Flight Decks has arrived and so I have some
photos of how it looks with a KX1 installed.

http://www.sotabeams.co.uk/kx1-flight-deck/

Kind of regret selling my KX1 some years ago.

73 Richard G3CWI
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and RumLog for Mac

2014-06-09 Thread Jim GM
Hi Bill

KX3 Mac Utility is working just fine except for AFSK I think user error and
will figure it out later.  I did see that and had set Baud to 4800 on
RumLog. usbserial-A703095C was selected for the port. I had also turned off
the KX3 Utility and RumLog is not working.

I tried turning off and on the KX3 and RumLog in different sequences and
RumLog still does not key the KX3.

In RumLog what settings am I missing?
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[Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Kjeld Holm
For the RTTY people,
You may all know already but I did not - therefore this info.
In ARRL National Contest Journal September/October 2013 issue on page 3 to 7
the article RTTY Spectrum Measurement is discussing bandwidth issues and
other issues regarding transmission of RTTY. For the ones of you who have
access to this publication: Read it. For others the conclusion is as I read
it: Switch on the AFSK TX filter in the Config menu (page 53 in the K3
manual). 
Vy 73 de OZ1CCM Kel
Kjeld Holm



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Ken Chandler
Kjeld et al
I think I'm right in saying, you cannot use this filter if your running AFSK 
and 2tone !!

Ken.. G0ORH

Sent from my iPad


 On 9 Jun 2014, at 11:01, Kjeld Holm k...@kh-translation.dk wrote:
 
 For the RTTY people,
 You may all know already but I did not - therefore this info.
 In ARRL National Contest Journal September/October 2013 issue on page 3 to 7
 the article RTTY Spectrum Measurement is discussing bandwidth issues and
 other issues regarding transmission of RTTY. For the ones of you who have
 access to this publication: Read it. For others the conclusion is as I read
 it: Switch on the AFSK TX filter in the Config menu (page 53 in the K3
 manual). 
 Vy 73 de OZ1CCM Kel
 Kjeld Holm
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and RumLog for Mac

2014-06-09 Thread Jim GM
Thank you Joel

Is that all I had to do?  I had it set for 4800 KX3 default. Setting the
baud rate to 38400 did it. Cant't wait to see what fun I will have with it.
Age here is 61 and had my ticket since May of 1968.
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[Elecraft] For Sale K2/15 S/N 6781

2014-06-09 Thread Robert Brock
For Sale my K2/15 S/N 6781.  Equipped as follows: 

- KAF2 Internal Audio Filter and Real Time Clock

- KAT2 Automatic Antenna Tuner

- K160RX 160 Meter Module with Receive Antenna Switch

- KSB2 SSB Adapter

- MH2 Hand Microphone

- Weighted Tuning Knob with Ball Finger Dimple made just for the Elecraft K2

- DC cord with Anderson Power Pole connector.  

This K2 was fully aligned and calibrated by Don, W3FPR in April, 2013.  

In perfect operating condition and pristine physical condition.  Works great
and no issues with the radio whatsoever.

Includes all manuals and associated materials.  Non-smoking environment and
used in-shack only.  Reason for selling is I have two K3's and don't use the
K2 much anymore.  Shipped/insured CONUS $675 - accept USPS money order only. 
Photos available upon request.  Please contact me (Bob - K9OSC) off list
k9osccw at gmail dot com or 763-951-2870.




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Re: [Elecraft] Good to see Elecraft at Sea-Pac

2014-06-09 Thread Jim's Desktop
 It's also good to see that Wayne AND his sense of humor survived Sea 
Pac.


My wife and I are heading out to HamCom in Plano, TX this week to give 
Eric  his wife a hand there.

Hopefully they'll return with their wits intact as well.

W0EB

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Wayne


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Re: [Elecraft] Good to see Elecraft at Sea-Pac

2014-06-09 Thread Slava Baytalskiy
Hey guys!
I don't know what you're talking about when you say them hats aren't free...
I got a free one at Dayton a month ago.
Then again, i did order the KAT/KPA500 and the W2 while there :-)
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On Jun 9, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Jim's Desktop w...@cox.net wrote:

 It's also good to see that Wayne AND his sense of humor survived Sea Pac.
 
 My wife and I are heading out to HamCom in Plano, TX this week to give Eric  
 his wife a hand there.
 Hopefully they'll return with their wits intact as well.
 
 W0EB
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


On 2014-06-09 6:40 AM, Ken Chandler wrote:


I think I'm right in saying, you cannot use this filter if your
running AFSK and 2tone !!


Not true!  If one is running AFSK *always use AFSK A* and set
CONFIG:AFSK TX = FIL On.

The AFSK TX Filter cleans up any hum on your sound card from bad
connections, grounding issues, or distortion from over drive.  However,
with the K3 one can get the same narrow transmit spectrum by using FSK
without the issues of AFSK.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-06-09 6:40 AM, Ken Chandler wrote:

Kjeld et al
I think I'm right in saying, you cannot use this filter if your running AFSK 
and 2tone !!

Ken.. G0ORH

Sent from my iPad



On 9 Jun 2014, at 11:01, Kjeld Holm k...@kh-translation.dk wrote:

For the RTTY people,
You may all know already but I did not - therefore this info.
In ARRL National Contest Journal September/October 2013 issue on page 3 to 7
the article RTTY Spectrum Measurement is discussing bandwidth issues and
other issues regarding transmission of RTTY. For the ones of you who have
access to this publication: Read it. For others the conclusion is as I read
it: Switch on the AFSK TX filter in the Config menu (page 53 in the K3
manual).
Vy 73 de OZ1CCM Kel
Kjeld Holm



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Re: [Elecraft] Good to see Elecraft at Sea-Pac

2014-06-09 Thread Bill W2BLC
Hats??? You have got to be kidding me! The quality of the equipment 
counts - as does the customer service. The hats? Not so much. Seems to 
me this same subject was beaten into the ground some months back also. 
Let's move on to important subjects.


If you feel a need to reply via private email - I will post the emails 
for all to read. I certainly would not want anyone cheated out of 
reading what someone has to say.


Thanks,

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with KPA500 and KAT500 setup (Training the KAT500)

2014-06-09 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi Sal,
Here is a method to train your KAT500:

Here is a procedure to set-up the tuner for all bands so that you do not have 
to go through a Full Search Tuning cycle each time you change to a frequency or 
band that requires retuning.
*   Select the desired band on the K3 and find a clear starting frequency 
near the bottom of the band.
*   If you are using the KPA500 amplifier, tap OPER to put the amp into 
STBY mode.
*   Set up your K3 so it will output between 20 and 100 watts when holding 
TUNE.
*   If you are using basic band switching, tap your key to allow the tuner 
to measure the present band.  You must do this before selecting an antenna.  If 
using enhanced band switching, the tuner reads the band automatically.
*   Tap the KAT500 ANT to select the required antenna.  
*   Tap the KAT500 MODE to select AUTO or MAN.
o   Tap the KAT500 TUNE.  The AUTO or MAN LED will start to flash.
o   Hold the K3's TUNE to apply power to the KAT500 and it will find the 
best match that it can and then stop.  The SWR LEDs will show the tuning 
progress and the tuner will stop clacking its relays when it finds the best 
VSWR.
o   Tap the K3's TUNE to stop transmitting.
*   After training the tuner, you should save the configuration file.  If 
you have trouble with your tuner, the configuration file can be sent to 
Elecraft Support of in-depth analysis.

Hint:  When training your tuner for various operating frequencies, it is useful 
and instructive to monitor the tuner's operation with the KAT Utility Operate 
screen.

After doing this on all your favorite frequencies, run the tuner in MAN mode to 
avoid the sometimes false tuning that occurs when running SSB in AUTO mode.

(Above is from Chapter 3 of The Elecraft KPA500 Amplifier and KAT500 Tuner by 
KE7X, now available from Elecraft part number E740244.)

Cheers and 73,
Fred KE7X

The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed
The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit
The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station)
All now available from www.elecraft.com
and
KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide



 -Original Message-
 From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
 Slava Baytalskiy
 Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 6:55 PM
 To: Elecraft
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with KPA500 and KAT500 setup
 
 Hello everyone!
 Today i've finished my K-Line!
 K3/100 with a P3/SVGA with a KAT500 with a KPA500 with a W2 (although
 W2 has not yet been put in line).
 I think i got everything to play together nicely (not that its
 difficult, the way Elecraft makes it...) I've put the KAT3 in bypass
 on all the bands that i'm using.
 I've selected the per-band power setting.
 I'm currently setting all bands to about 15 watts of drive and getting
 around 300W out to the antenna (a K4KIO HexBeam).
 My question is about the operation of the tuner:
 when does it actually auto-tune? When the Auto light is flashing or
 when the relays are clicking?
 Sometimes it seems to start clicking right in the middle of a QSO. Is
 that normal? Does that interrupt my signal?
 Is there a way to teach it using SCAN or something? Or do i have to PTT
 and talk into the mic on every frequency in order for it to memorize
 the LC values?
 How do people normally do this?
 
 Thanks a bunch in advance!
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Good to see Elecraft at Sea-Pac

2014-06-09 Thread David Cole
Dear God, the hats comment was a joke...  I had no idea some festering
wound from a previous incarnation of a hat discussion was still in play
for some of us...  Please note the :) after the hat comment in my
mail...  Please let all hat comments die here that relate to my email.

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On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 09:06 -0400, Bill W2BLC wrote:
 Hats??? You have got to be kidding me! The quality of the equipment 
 counts - as does the customer service. The hats? Not so much. Seems to 
 me this same subject was beaten into the ground some months back also. 
 Let's move on to important subjects.
 
 If you feel a need to reply via private email - I will post the emails 
 for all to read. I certainly would not want anyone cheated out of 
 reading what someone has to say.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bill W2BLC K-Line
 
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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale K2/15 S/N 6781

2014-06-09 Thread Robert Brock
This radio has been sold.  Thanks for reading.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 Essentially AFSK will need to be used the same as FSK, tuning not
 mousing.

As it should be ...


With AFSK TX = FIL OFF you can wander around the waterfall if you
wish. Not necessarily the best idea for the reasons given by Joe.


Among other reasons for *not* using wideband transmit and mousing
around the waterfall, take a listen to some of the signals on JT65
or JT9 ... many of them have high levels of broadband noise from
their sound cards that may be only 15 or 20 dB below the tone.
That noise is also attenuated significantly by the AFSK TX filter
resulting is a much cleaner signal (and significantly less QRM).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-06-09 10:52 AM, Mike Harris wrote:

Not a universal truth.

The AFSK TX filter is centred around your selected tone (pitch)
frequency pair.  You will have to tune each RTTY signal you wish to call
with the VFO.  Meaning you cannot leave to K3 tuned to one frequency and
wander around the waterfall picking off stations by using for example
the MMTTY NET function.  It only takes around +/- 300Hz offset from the
normal tone pair and your TX output has gone, evidenced by loss of RF
output and a vanished ALC reading.  The K3 knows nothing about the
actual tone pair being passed to it other than what we tell it.

Essentially AFSK will need to be used the same as FSK, tuning not mousing.

With AFSK TX = FIL OFF you can wander around the waterfall if you wish.
  Not necessarily the best idea for the reasons given by Joe.

If I remember correctly the NCJ article showed that at the the time of
writing the K3 AFSK TX spectrum was cleaner than that of FSK.  I believe
it also mentioned that Elecraft was tweaking the waveform to improve the
FSK spectrum.  I no longer have the article so cannot confirm this and
apologise if this statement is incorrect.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO



On 09/06/2014 10:01, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


On 2014-06-09 6:40 AM, Ken Chandler wrote:
 

I think I'm right in saying, you cannot use this filter if your
running AFSK and 2tone !!


Not true!  If one is running AFSK *always use AFSK A* and set
CONFIG:AFSK TX = FIL On.

The AFSK TX Filter cleans up any hum on your sound card from bad
connections, grounding issues, or distortion from over drive.  However,
with the K3 one can get the same narrow transmit spectrum by using FSK
without the issues of AFSK.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-06-09 6:40 AM, Ken Chandler wrote:

Kjeld et al
I think I'm right in saying, you cannot use this filter if your
running AFSK and 2tone !!

Ken.. G0ORH

Sent from my iPad



On 9 Jun 2014, at 11:01, Kjeld Holm k...@kh-translation.dk wrote:

For the RTTY people,
You may all know already but I did not - therefore this info.
In ARRL National Contest Journal September/October 2013 issue on page
3 to 7
the article RTTY Spectrum Measurement is discussing bandwidth issues
and
other issues regarding transmission of RTTY. For the ones of you who
have
access to this publication: Read it. For others the conclusion is as
I read
it: Switch on the AFSK TX filter in the Config menu (page 53 in the K3
manual).
Vy 73 de OZ1CCM Kel
Kjeld Holm



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2014-06-09 Thread Dale Putnam



FOR Sale:$22 NorCal SMT dummy load, with the monitor diode. Works great.. is a 
fine addition to your shack, already built and ready to use. $40 ea.Elecraft 
XG1 on 7.040 Fully functional, and ready to go to work for you. (IF you want to 
use another freq just change xtals)I have two of these with good batteries, 
I'd expect you'd only need one...although I used two for quite a while. (didn't 
have to change xtals.)I'll ship priority flat rate.. these will fit fine into a 
small Flat rate to an address in the US. Paypal, check, mo, all fine. Thank you 
for looking,

Have a great day, 
 
 
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Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 

  
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[Elecraft] FS: Dummy Load and 2 - XG1

2014-06-09 Thread Dale Putnam
FOR Sale:$22 NorCal SMT dummy load, with the monitor diode. Works great.. is a 
fine addition to your shack, already built and ready to use. $40 ea.Elecraft 
XG1 on 7.040 Fully functional, and ready to go to work for you. (IF you want to 
use another freq just change xtals)I have two of these with good batteries, 
I'd expect you'd only need one...although I used two for quite a while. (didn't 
have to change xtals.)I'll ship priority flat rate.. these will fit fine into a 
small Flat rate to an address in the US. Paypal, check, mo, all fine. Thank you 
for looking,

Have a great day, 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with KPA500 and KAT500 setup (Training the KAT500)

2014-06-09 Thread Slava Baytalskiy
Thanks, Fred!
This is what I was missing: the Tune button in the K3. Didn't realize it was 
there, since I was using the ATU Tune before I got the KAT/KPA500 installed. 
I guess I should order the rest of your books (I got the K3 book long before I 
actually bought the rig). 
And I did notice that on SSB sometimes it starts tuning for no apparent reason. 

Thanks to all folks who responded!

Slava Baytalskiy
sla...@nullserv.com
W2RMS

On Jun 9, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:

 Hi Sal,
 Here is a method to train your KAT500:
 
 Here is a procedure to set-up the tuner for all bands so that you do not have 
 to go through a Full Search Tuning cycle each time you change to a frequency 
 or band that requires retuning.
 *Select the desired band on the K3 and find a clear starting frequency 
 near the bottom of the band.
 *If you are using the KPA500 amplifier, tap OPER to put the amp into STBY 
 mode.
 *Set up your K3 so it will output between 20 and 100 watts when holding 
 TUNE.
 *If you are using basic band switching, tap your key to allow the tuner 
 to measure the present band.  You must do this before selecting an antenna.  
 If using enhanced band switching, the tuner reads the band automatically.
 *Tap the KAT500 ANT to select the required antenna.  
 *Tap the KAT500 MODE to select AUTO or MAN.
 oTap the KAT500 TUNE.  The AUTO or MAN LED will start to flash.
 oHold the K3's TUNE to apply power to the KAT500 and it will find the 
 best match that it can and then stop.  The SWR LEDs will show the tuning 
 progress and the tuner will stop clacking its relays when it finds the best 
 VSWR.
 oTap the K3's TUNE to stop transmitting.
 *After training the tuner, you should save the configuration file.  If 
 you have trouble with your tuner, the configuration file can be sent to 
 Elecraft Support of in-depth analysis.
 
 Hint:  When training your tuner for various operating frequencies, it is 
 useful and instructive to monitor the tuner's operation with the KAT Utility 
 Operate screen.
 
 After doing this on all your favorite frequencies, run the tuner in MAN mode 
 to avoid the sometimes false tuning that occurs when running SSB in AUTO mode.
 
 (Above is from Chapter 3 of The Elecraft KPA500 Amplifier and KAT500 Tuner 
 by KE7X, now available from Elecraft part number E740244.)
 
 Cheers and 73,
 Fred KE7X
 
 The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed
 The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit
 The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station)
 All now available from www.elecraft.com
 and
 KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
 http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
 Slava Baytalskiy
 Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 6:55 PM
 To: Elecraft
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with KPA500 and KAT500 setup
 
 Hello everyone!
 Today i've finished my K-Line!
 K3/100 with a P3/SVGA with a KAT500 with a KPA500 with a W2 (although
 W2 has not yet been put in line).
 I think i got everything to play together nicely (not that its
 difficult, the way Elecraft makes it...) I've put the KAT3 in bypass
 on all the bands that i'm using.
 I've selected the per-band power setting.
 I'm currently setting all bands to about 15 watts of drive and getting
 around 300W out to the antenna (a K4KIO HexBeam).
 My question is about the operation of the tuner:
 when does it actually auto-tune? When the Auto light is flashing or
 when the relays are clicking?
 Sometimes it seems to start clicking right in the middle of a QSO. Is
 that normal? Does that interrupt my signal?
 Is there a way to teach it using SCAN or something? Or do i have to PTT
 and talk into the mic on every frequency in order for it to memorize
 the LC values?
 How do people normally do this?
 
 Thanks a bunch in advance!
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Why is KX3 phase noise so much less than the K3 ?

2014-06-09 Thread Wayne Burdick
Chris Johnson elecr...@ozy.us wrote:

 1)  Is phase noise the measurement of the instability of an DDS?

That's one contributing factor. But the DDS signal drives a mixer, and the 
other input to the mixer may be the larger source of phase noise in transmit 
mode.


 2)  How does this impact TX only, and why does it create such an issue to 
 nearby listeners?

In the case of the KX3 and Flex radios (e.g. Flex 1500/3000/5000), the limiting 
factor is probably the transmit D-to-A converter. Its performance is limited by 
quantization and sampling noise, setting an upper bound on phase noise. The KX3 
has an advantage in that its synthesizer uses a DDS-driven PLL, while the Flex 
radios are DDS only, without a following PLL. But the TX DAC is still a factor 
in both cases.

In a well-designed superhet like the K3, the TX DAC's noise floor affects only 
the in-band portion of the transmitted signal, i.e. the portion within the I.F. 
crystal filter passband. The K3 has two crystal filters in series in transmit 
mode, which results in very high rejection of noise outside the SSB passband 
(typically 100-3000 Hz). This means that the limiting factor on wideband 
transmit noise is not the IF injection into the mixer -- it really *is* the 
synthesizer. 

The K3's synthesizer is extremely clean at wide offsets (another DDS-driven 
PLL), and that is why its transmit phase noise is so low.


 3) Does phase noise go down if you use a faster master clock?  The Flex 6700 
 uses a 983.04mhz vs a 122.99Mhz clock in the 6300.

That is a completely different design (direct digital up/down conversion), 
which requires very high clock speeds, very expensive ADC and DAC components, 
and high current drain in receive mode. It can be made clean in transmit and 
receive modes, although in receive mode this architecture will still have 
typically 15-20 dB lower blocking dynamic range than a well-designed superhet. 
None of this is applicable to the KX3, which is obviously intended to be an 
ultraportable radio with low current drain and low cost.


 4) Do low phase noise radios allow in-band use, such as someone on CW on 20M 
 and someone up on voice on 20M?

Yes. In general this is only a problem if you have stations in very close 
proximity. In this situation, the K3 is better than any other radio on the 
market. This is why the K3 is highly favored for Field Day and DXpeditions. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] Good to see Elecraft at Sea-Pac

2014-06-09 Thread Jim Lowman

Yes, there are ways to get a free hat.

Last year at Dayton I was sitting at the Elecraft booth, talking with 
Lisa.  She was taking a $10k order from a man and his wife.  The hat was 
free.


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 6/9/2014 5:56 AM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote:

Hey guys!
I don't know what you're talking about when you say them hats aren't free...
I got a free one at Dayton a month ago.
Then again, i did order the KAT/KPA500 and the W2 while there :-)
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Re: [Elecraft] Good to see Elecraft at Sea-Pac

2014-06-09 Thread Jim Lowman
Wayne wasn't there, as far as I could tell.  The booth was being ably 
staffed by Lisa and a couple of volunteers.  Still very busy.


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 6/9/2014 5:45 AM, Jim's Desktop wrote:

  It's also good to see that Wayne AND his sense of humor survived Sea Pac.

My wife and I are heading out to HamCom in Plano, TX this week to give
Eric  his wife a hand there.
Hopefully they'll return with their wits intact as well.

W0EB

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[Elecraft] KX3 sluggish keyer

2014-06-09 Thread Sven Ladegast

Hello folks,

I am experiencing from time to time that the KX3 internal keyer is kinda 
sluggish and misses here and there a dot or the timing is weird. This 
mostly happens at the beginning of transmissions.


I have tried another key (Kent double paddle) with my KX3 and I can 
exclude it is the stock paddle which has contact problems. The key is 
working fine on another external keyer.


It is extremely irritating and on some transmissions the ATU starts a 
new tuning cycle (maybe critical tuning on antenna) and exactly in these 
moments the keyer misses dots or dashes, often more than one.


It seems whenever the MCU has too much to do (tuning cycle of ATU, some 
other task) the interrupts for the keyer input get lost and the actual 
character is malformed.


It happens with MCU firmware 1.87 and 1.94beta.

This is an extremely annoying feature which I really would like to go 
away in one of the next firmware releases.


From an embedded developer's point of view I would say that there is 
too much code executed in interrupt service routines that block the MCU 
from executing the keyer timing correctly.


I have found that parts of the stock paddle have been swapped out to 
reduce the problem but in my opinion this will not cure the problem. 
Since contact problems are contributing to the problem one might 
experience a better keyer timing with exchanged or filed contacts at the 
paddle but the sluggish feeling is still there.


I know that this is hard to find in the MCU firmware but there is one 
directive a firmware developer should follow:


When entering an interrupt service routine interrupts must be disabled. 
*No* code should be executed within an interrupt service routine, 
instead flags should be set which enables the main loop to execute code 
depending to that interrupt. The interrupt service routine itself should 
be left as fast as possible and interupts should be re-enabled as fast 
as possible.


It could also be a problem with some software debouncing algorithm that 
is used on the keyer input lines. Without seeing any source it is hard 
to tell where the problem is.


I hope that I gave a hint to the developers to look for?

vy 73!

Sven

PS: Feel free to contact me if further information is needed.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Kjeld Holm
The AFSK TX Filter cleans up any hum on your sound card from bad
connections, grounding issues, or distortion from over drive.  However, with
the K3 one can get the same narrow transmit spectrum by using FSK without
the issues of AFSK. Written by Joe Subich, W4TV

Not as I read the article - but I may be wrong. 
 Effect of the K3 AFSK Transmit Filter
Rather than hacking the K3 to transmit
through a narrow roofing filter, an equal or
better result can be had by simply enabling
the AFSK transmit filter in the configuration
menu. This places a 400 Hz filter before
transmit audio arrives at the RF modulator
(this only applies to AFSK-A mode,
not DATA-A mode). This filter is centered
around the tones configured under the
radio's PITCH menu. The effect is similar
to what MMTTY and other programs do in
their software, but this is done in the radio's
DSP firmware.
The radio's manual says this filter can
serve to filter any noise that might be on
the audio input, and it certainly will do that,
but it has the additional benefit of filtering
keying sideband energy. Figure 9 shows
the result of MMTTY's unfiltered phasecontinuous
AFSK audio into the K3 with
the K3's AFSK filter enabled. Comparing
Figure 9 with Figure 3 demonstrates the
effect of the K3's AFSK filter, as both have
exactly the same audio input to the K3.
Attempts to overdrive the radio resulted
in no significant change in signal bandwidth.
Even when transmitting wideband
noise into the K3, the AFSK filter limits the
bandwidth. While it is possible to transmit
trash that is difficult or impossible to copy,
the K3's AFSK filter makes it unlikely that
it would generate much interference on
adjacent channels.

An important point: Even given the K3's
transmit IMD, the occupied spectrum using
shaped FSK is much narrower than
that when using the internally generated
FSK synthesizer. FSK keying sidebands
are not unique to the K3; every radio that
uses phase-coherent for its internal FSK
generator will generate a wider spectrum
at essentially any power level. The only
differences will be in cases where the IF
filter cuts off the sidebands.
As an experiment, I decided to see
just how wide I could make my signal by
overdriving the K3's line input. I cranked
the PC's headphone output to 100 percent
and drove the ALC as hard as I could by
setting the line input gain to maximum (see
Figure 7). Some strange spurs show up in
the spectrum, but even those are below the
keying sidebands of the FSK transmitter
(see Figure 2). Even trying to transmit absolute
trash I wasn't able to make the AFSK
Figure 4 - AFSK with MMTTY using a 512 tap TX BPF with a
passband of from 2000 to 2400 Hz, 0 dBm
Figure 5 - AFSK with MMTTY with 512 tap TX BPF, 100 W
signal as wide as that of the internal FSK
generator. The rise in the noise floor over
the 2.8 kHz bandwidth occurs, because the
K3 amplifies noise from somewhere; at this
gain setting it is present whether or not anything
is plugged into the K3's line in jack.
This behavior is almost certainly specific
to the K3, because the K3 scales audio in
DSP before it ever enters the RF stages.
Other radios are not going to protect you
from yourself nearly as well, so you might
expect harmonic distortion and other bad
things with no limiting prior to the point of
RF modulation.
Oz1ccm Kel


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[Elecraft] Hard Case for K3

2014-06-09 Thread Dick
Does anyone have a good source for a case that will hold a K3.  Would like to 
have a hard case to use when transporting a K3 to FI and other portable 
locations.

Thanks,

Dick, K8ZTT

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 on Data Contest, is utopia?

2014-06-09 Thread iz6gvc
Hi Wayne,
many thanks for the detailed explanation!
The K3 is much better on situation like Contest and DX activation, on other
cases the KX3 is also one better radio.

Thanks, Camillo iz6gvc.

73s!



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY spectrum

2014-06-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 Not as I read the article -

The article was written before the latest update to the K3 FSK
generating DSP code in MCU 4.66 released 2013-03-22.  The article
is simply out of date.

The release notes for 4.66 say:

FSK-D KEYING BANDWIDTH GREATLY REDUCED:  This change reduces the
amplitude of the FSK-D keying sidebands by 25-30 dB at 500 Hz
offset, giving teh K3 one of the cleanest FSK signals available.


The author of the NCJ article reviewed the K3 firmware while it
was still in beta here: http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/k3beta/
The author's own web page contains the information in the NCJ
article here: http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/k3rtty/k3rtty.html
By comparing the before and after spectrogram in the K3beta article
with the before, 2-Tone, and filtered MMTTY spectrograms on the
AFSK Bandwidth with waveshaping page in the original article, you
will see that the new K3 FSK code is every bit as clean as the wave-
shaped AFSK *without* the problems associated with AFSK.

Note that the author's article on the web page shows the benefits of
the K3 AFSK TX filter in terms of being able to clean up all manner
of *intentional* abuse to the AFSK audio - abuse that would render
the AFSK signals from other transceivers an absolute festival of QRM.

Here is what the author wrote of the new FSK code:

Notice that the unshaped [original - W4TV] keying has clicks that
will result in an S7 noise floor at 500 Hz spacing that very
gradually flattens out to an S4 noise floor 1 KHz each side of
transmitter, which is eventually limited (we hope!) by the IF filter
in the transmitter. This makes it easy to see how loud signals
placed every few kilohertz raises the noise floor of the entire band
for everyone.  The BW-reduced [new code - W4TV] signal is under S2 at
500Hz and drops off very rapidly into the noise as one tunes away. It
is below the S1 noise floor of the receiver when tuned more than 700
Hz away.


73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-06-09 2:07 PM, Kjeld Holm wrote:

The AFSK TX Filter cleans up any hum on your sound card from bad
connections, grounding issues, or distortion from over drive.  However, with
the K3 one can get the same narrow transmit spectrum by using FSK without
the issues of AFSK. Written by Joe Subich, W4TV

Not as I read the article - but I may be wrong.
 Effect of the K3 AFSK Transmit Filter
Rather than hacking the K3 to transmit
through a narrow roofing filter, an equal or
better result can be had by simply enabling
the AFSK transmit filter in the configuration
menu. This places a 400 Hz filter before
transmit audio arrives at the RF modulator
(this only applies to AFSK-A mode,
not DATA-A mode). This filter is centered
around the tones configured under the
radio's PITCH menu. The effect is similar
to what MMTTY and other programs do in
their software, but this is done in the radio's
DSP firmware.
The radio's manual says this filter can
serve to filter any noise that might be on
the audio input, and it certainly will do that,
but it has the additional benefit of filtering
keying sideband energy. Figure 9 shows
the result of MMTTY's unfiltered phasecontinuous
AFSK audio into the K3 with
the K3's AFSK filter enabled. Comparing
Figure 9 with Figure 3 demonstrates the
effect of the K3's AFSK filter, as both have
exactly the same audio input to the K3.
Attempts to overdrive the radio resulted
in no significant change in signal bandwidth.
Even when transmitting wideband
noise into the K3, the AFSK filter limits the
bandwidth. While it is possible to transmit
trash that is difficult or impossible to copy,
the K3's AFSK filter makes it unlikely that
it would generate much interference on
adjacent channels.

An important point: Even given the K3's
transmit IMD, the occupied spectrum using
shaped FSK is much narrower than
that when using the internally generated
FSK synthesizer. FSK keying sidebands
are not unique to the K3; every radio that
uses phase-coherent for its internal FSK
generator will generate a wider spectrum
at essentially any power level. The only
differences will be in cases where the IF
filter cuts off the sidebands.
As an experiment, I decided to see
just how wide I could make my signal by
overdriving the K3's line input. I cranked
the PC's headphone output to 100 percent
and drove the ALC as hard as I could by
setting the line input gain to maximum (see
Figure 7). Some strange spurs show up in
the spectrum, but even those are below the
keying sidebands of the FSK transmitter
(see Figure 2). Even trying to transmit absolute
trash I wasn't able to make the AFSK
Figure 4 - AFSK with MMTTY using a 512 tap TX BPF with a
passband of from 2000 to 2400 Hz, 0 dBm
Figure 5 - AFSK with MMTTY with 512 tap TX BPF, 100 W
signal as wide as that of the internal FSK
generator. The rise in the noise floor over
the 2.8 kHz bandwidth occurs, because the
K3 amplifies noise from somewhere; at this
gain setting it is present whether or not anything
is plugged into the K3's line in jack.
This 

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 sluggish keyer

2014-06-09 Thread David Shoaf
Hi Sven,

Please contact Elecraft Customer Support to confirm the address.  They are
arranging to send you a replacement KXPD3.

Cheers,

David
Elecraft Customer Support



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 sluggish keyer

2014-06-09 Thread Wayne Burdick
Sven,

This has nothing to do with interrupt routines, etc. 

When you transmit, the KX3 first checks to see if you have moved the VFO to a 
new band segment for ATU purposes. This is typically every 20 kHz, but may be 
a smaller or larger increment depending on the band and on whether you have 
trained the KX3 at multiple points within a band.

If the KX3 finds that new L/C data is available for the segment you're now 
transmitting in, it must retrieve that data and send it to the KXAT3 module. 
The KXAT3 has latching relays, so it takes a significant fraction of a second 
(up to about 200 ms) to do all of the relay updates.

In non-CW modes, this L/C update is done immediately, since a one-time delay of 
this length is usually of no concern. 

However, in CW mode, a 200-ms delay can interrupt keying. So we had to choose 
between two options:

1. interrupt the first character sent

2. attempt to insert the L/C update between words

We chose the latter. As soon as there appears to be a word-space-length pause 
in transmission by the operator, the KX3 will send the new ATU data to the 
KXAT3 and flash the ATU icon a couple of times.

In practice this works well most of the time. You may be noticing the effect of 
leaving a word-lengh space, but starting to key the radio just before it has 
completed ATU update, which of course holds off transmission.

In a future firmware release we may allow the operator to select automatic L/C 
updates during VFO tuning. The sound of relays updating occasionally as the VFO 
is tuned would be objectionable to many, which is why we didn't do it this way 
initially. If we add this feature, you'll need to select it with a menu entry.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Jun 9, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Sven Ladegast s...@ladegast.info wrote:

 Hello folks,
 
 I am experiencing from time to time that the KX3 internal keyer is kinda 
 sluggish and misses here and there a dot or the timing is weird. This 
 mostly happens at the beginning of transmissions.
 
 I have tried another key (Kent double paddle) with my KX3 and I can exclude 
 it is the stock paddle which has contact problems. The key is working fine on 
 another external keyer.
 
 It is extremely irritating and on some transmissions the ATU starts a new 
 tuning cycle (maybe critical tuning on antenna) and exactly in these moments 
 the keyer misses dots or dashes, often more than one.
 
 It seems whenever the MCU has too much to do (tuning cycle of ATU, some other 
 task) the interrupts for the keyer input get lost and the actual character is 
 malformed.
 
 It happens with MCU firmware 1.87 and 1.94beta.
 
 This is an extremely annoying feature which I really would like to go away 
 in one of the next firmware releases.
 
 From an embedded developer's point of view I would say that there is too much 
 code executed in interrupt service routines that block the MCU from executing 
 the keyer timing correctly.
 
 I have found that parts of the stock paddle have been swapped out to reduce 
 the problem but in my opinion this will not cure the problem. Since contact 
 problems are contributing to the problem one might experience a better keyer 
 timing with exchanged or filed contacts at the paddle but the sluggish 
 feeling is still there.
 
 I know that this is hard to find in the MCU firmware but there is one 
 directive a firmware developer should follow:
 
 When entering an interrupt service routine interrupts must be disabled. *No* 
 code should be executed within an interrupt service routine, instead flags 
 should be set which enables the main loop to execute code depending to that 
 interrupt. The interrupt service routine itself should be left as fast as 
 possible and interupts should be re-enabled as fast as possible.
 
 It could also be a problem with some software debouncing algorithm that is 
 used on the keyer input lines. Without seeing any source it is hard to tell 
 where the problem is.
 
 I hope that I gave a hint to the developers to look for?
 
 vy 73!
 
 Sven
 
 PS: Feel free to contact me if further information is needed.
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[Elecraft] For Sale K2/15 S/N7315

2014-06-09 Thread Garry Wnuk
Selling my K2 Equipped as follows

KSB2 SSB Option

KNB2 Noise Blanker

KDSP2  Advanced DSP Filter

ETS2 Tilt Stand

FD1MP  Finger Dimple for Tuning Knob


Radio is in perfect operating condition as well as physical appearances.
Used as CW rig primarily. Never used outside of shack but would be great in
the field though!!

Includes all manuals and original sales receipt. Power cord included with
Anderson Power Pole connection. Reason for selling is that I would like to
buy a K3.

I built this radio myself and upon completion it was sent off to Don
Wilhelm W3FPR for testing and alignment. $850.00 firm. You choose shipping
method and I will double box!! Photos on request. Please call Garry AC9FF
217-556-0326 or E-Mail wnu...@gmail.com

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Re: [Elecraft] Why is KX3 phase noise so much less than the K3 ?

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Johnson
Thanks Wayne and Alan, for that super detailed info.   The radio side of things 
are still very magical to me!   I'm a software guy, not a hardware guy.  :)

I don't own a K3, but two KX3's for my knob radios.   I use a Flex 6700 and 
6300 for home use.  I'm assuming the 6700's -147 dBc@10kHz, -152 dBc@100kHz 
phase noise values are pretty good then, if anything higher than -140 dBc is 
acceptable.  Even the 6300 is spec'd at -140 dBc@10kHz.   I do agree that my 
old (and sold) 3000 was messing up the bands during Field Day last year.
This year we are using a K3, two 6300's, and a 6700, so I'm hoping for better 
performance all around.

Again, thank you for the info!

On Jun 9, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Chris Johnson elecr...@ozy.us wrote:
 
 1)  Is phase noise the measurement of the instability of an DDS?
 
 That's one contributing factor. But the DDS signal drives a mixer, and the 
 other input to the mixer may be the larger source of phase noise in transmit 
 mode.
 
 
 2)  How does this impact TX only, and why does it create such an issue to 
 nearby listeners?
 
 In the case of the KX3 and Flex radios (e.g. Flex 1500/3000/5000), the 
 limiting factor is probably the transmit D-to-A converter. Its performance is 
 limited by quantization and sampling noise, setting an upper bound on phase 
 noise. The KX3 has an advantage in that its synthesizer uses a DDS-driven 
 PLL, while the Flex radios are DDS only, without a following PLL. But the TX 
 DAC is still a factor in both cases.
 
 In a well-designed superhet like the K3, the TX DAC's noise floor affects 
 only the in-band portion of the transmitted signal, i.e. the portion within 
 the I.F. crystal filter passband. The K3 has two crystal filters in series in 
 transmit mode, which results in very high rejection of noise outside the SSB 
 passband (typically 100-3000 Hz). This means that the limiting factor on 
 wideband transmit noise is not the IF injection into the mixer -- it really 
 *is* the synthesizer. 
 
 The K3's synthesizer is extremely clean at wide offsets (another DDS-driven 
 PLL), and that is why its transmit phase noise is so low.
 
 
 3) Does phase noise go down if you use a faster master clock?  The Flex 6700 
 uses a 983.04mhz vs a 122.99Mhz clock in the 6300.
 
 That is a completely different design (direct digital up/down conversion), 
 which requires very high clock speeds, very expensive ADC and DAC components, 
 and high current drain in receive mode. It can be made clean in transmit and 
 receive modes, although in receive mode this architecture will still have 
 typically 15-20 dB lower blocking dynamic range than a well-designed 
 superhet. None of this is applicable to the KX3, which is obviously intended 
 to be an ultraportable radio with low current drain and low cost.
 
 
 4) Do low phase noise radios allow in-band use, such as someone on CW on 20M 
 and someone up on voice on 20M?
 
 Yes. In general this is only a problem if you have stations in very close 
 proximity. In this situation, the K3 is better than any other radio on the 
 market. This is why the K3 is highly favored for Field Day and DXpeditions. 
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Hard Case for K3

2014-06-09 Thread WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft
A lot of people have used various Pelican Cases which apparently give good 
protection at a moderate price.  I elected to buy an aluminum case from Home 
Depot which they have for about $20.  This case has ample room and is adequate 
for Field Day and such, but airline travelers might prefer the better 
protection of the Pelican.  One wife of one of the members makes some cloth 
covers and dust covers which a lot of K3 owners like and I think they can be 
customized to your liking, but probably are not the best for rough handling.  
Some may prefer to double protect with the cloth cover and an outer Pelican 
Case for more severe handling problems.
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman
K5EWJ  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart


On Monday, June 9, 2014 1:35 PM, Dick k8...@centurylink.net wrote:
 


Does anyone have a good source for a case that will hold a K3.  Would like to 
have a hard case to use when transporting a K3 to FI and other portable 
locations.

Thanks,

Dick, K8ZTT

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 sluggish keyer

2014-06-09 Thread Igor Sokolov

Wayne,
It would be indeed very good feature if ATU is updated during RX rather then
the way it works now. Will you do that for KXPA100 with its ATU as well?  I
would very much like that.
BTW is Elecraft going to be presented at WRTC 2014?  Half of transceivers 
(52 out of 104) at WRTC 2010 in Moscow where of Elecraft breed. This time 
there will be 59 teams from all over the world and I expect that Elecraft 
rigs will again be well presented. Hopefully Elecraft will not miss such a 
big international gathering.


73, Igor UA9CDC
- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com

To: Sven Ladegast s...@ladegast.info
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 sluggish keyer



Sven,

This has nothing to do with interrupt routines, etc.

When you transmit, the KX3 first checks to see if you have moved the VFO
to a new band segment for ATU purposes. This is typically every 20 kHz,
but may be a smaller or larger increment depending on the band and on
whether you have trained the KX3 at multiple points within a band.

If the KX3 finds that new L/C data is available for the segment you're now
transmitting in, it must retrieve that data and send it to the KXAT3
module. The KXAT3 has latching relays, so it takes a significant fraction
of a second (up to about 200 ms) to do all of the relay updates.

In non-CW modes, this L/C update is done immediately, since a one-time
delay of this length is usually of no concern.

However, in CW mode, a 200-ms delay can interrupt keying. So we had to
choose between two options:

1. interrupt the first character sent

2. attempt to insert the L/C update between words

We chose the latter. As soon as there appears to be a word-space-length
pause in transmission by the operator, the KX3 will send the new ATU data
to the KXAT3 and flash the ATU icon a couple of times.

In practice this works well most of the time. You may be noticing the
effect of leaving a word-lengh space, but starting to key the radio just
before it has completed ATU update, which of course holds off
transmission.

In a future firmware release we may allow the operator to select automatic
L/C updates during VFO tuning. The sound of relays updating occasionally
as the VFO is tuned would be objectionable to many, which is why we didn't
do it this way initially. If we add this feature, you'll need to select it
with a menu entry.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Jun 9, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Sven Ladegast s...@ladegast.info wrote:


Hello folks,

I am experiencing from time to time that the KX3 internal keyer is kinda
sluggish and misses here and there a dot or the timing is weird. This
mostly happens at the beginning of transmissions.

I have tried another key (Kent double paddle) with my KX3 and I can
exclude it is the stock paddle which has contact problems. The key is
working fine on another external keyer.

It is extremely irritating and on some transmissions the ATU starts a new
tuning cycle (maybe critical tuning on antenna) and exactly in these
moments the keyer misses dots or dashes, often more than one.

It seems whenever the MCU has too much to do (tuning cycle of ATU, some
other task) the interrupts for the keyer input get lost and the actual
character is malformed.

It happens with MCU firmware 1.87 and 1.94beta.

This is an extremely annoying feature which I really would like to go
away in one of the next firmware releases.

From an embedded developer's point of view I would say that there is too
much code executed in interrupt service routines that block the MCU from
executing the keyer timing correctly.

I have found that parts of the stock paddle have been swapped out to
reduce the problem but in my opinion this will not cure the problem.
Since contact problems are contributing to the problem one might
experience a better keyer timing with exchanged or filed contacts at the
paddle but the sluggish feeling is still there.

I know that this is hard to find in the MCU firmware but there is one
directive a firmware developer should follow:

When entering an interrupt service routine interrupts must be disabled.
*No* code should be executed within an interrupt service routine, instead
flags should be set which enables the main loop to execute code depending
to that interrupt. The interrupt service routine itself should be left as
fast as possible and interupts should be re-enabled as fast as possible.

It could also be a problem with some software debouncing algorithm that
is used on the keyer input lines. Without seeing any source it is hard to
tell where the problem is.

I hope that I gave a hint to the developers to look for?

vy 73!

Sven

PS: Feel free to contact me if further information is needed.
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 and KAT500 setup (Training the KAT500)

2014-06-09 Thread Cady, Fred
Hello again on the training of the KAT500:
Don W3WPR points out that I forgot to mention that each band has segments for 
which you should find the tuner settings. The segment widths are:
Below 3 MHz -- 10 kHz
3MHz to 26 MHz -- 20 kHz
26 MHz to 38 MHz -- 100 kHz
38 MHz to 60 MHz -- 200 kHz
You should train the KAT500 on at least one frequency in each segment.  For 
example, on 20 meters, start at about 14.010 and then move up the band in 20 
kHz jumps to fully train the tuner for the entire band.  Of course you don't 
have to train it for the whole band or every band if you don't operate on some 
frequencies. 

73,
Fred KE7x 

 -Original Message-
 From: Slava Baytalskiy [mailto:sla...@nullserv.com]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 9:53 AM
 To: Cady, Fred
 Cc: Elecraft
 Subject: KPA500 and KAT500 setup (Training the KAT500)
 
 Thanks, Fred!
 This is what I was missing: the Tune button in the K3. Didn't realize
 it was there, since I was using the ATU Tune before I got the
 KAT/KPA500 installed.
 I guess I should order the rest of your books (I got the K3 book long
 before I actually bought the rig).
 And I did notice that on SSB sometimes it starts tuning for no apparent
 reason.
 
 Thanks to all folks who responded!
 
 Slava Baytalskiy
 sla...@nullserv.com
 W2RMS
 
 On Jun 9, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:
 
  Hi Sal,
  Here is a method to train your KAT500:
 
  Here is a procedure to set-up the tuner for all bands so that you do
 not have to go through a Full Search Tuning cycle each time you change
 to a frequency or band that requires retuning.
  *Select the desired band on the K3 and find a clear starting
 frequency near the bottom of the band.
  *If you are using the KPA500 amplifier, tap OPER to put the amp
 into STBY mode.
  *Set up your K3 so it will output between 20 and 100 watts when
 holding TUNE.
  *If you are using basic band switching, tap your key to allow the
 tuner to measure the present band.  You must do this before selecting
 an antenna.  If using enhanced band switching, the tuner reads the band
 automatically.
  *Tap the KAT500 ANT to select the required antenna.
  *Tap the KAT500 MODE to select AUTO or MAN.
  oTap the KAT500 TUNE.  The AUTO or MAN LED will start to flash.
  oHold the K3's TUNE to apply power to the KAT500 and it will find
 the best match that it can and then stop.  The SWR LEDs will show the
 tuning progress and the tuner will stop clacking its relays when it
 finds the best VSWR.
  oTap the K3's TUNE to stop transmitting.
  *After training the tuner, you should save the configuration
 file.  If you have trouble with your tuner, the configuration file can
 be sent to Elecraft Support of in-depth analysis.
 
  Hint:  When training your tuner for various operating frequencies, it
 is useful and instructive to monitor the tuner's operation with the KAT
 Utility Operate screen.
 
  After doing this on all your favorite frequencies, run the tuner in
 MAN mode to avoid the sometimes false tuning that occurs when running
 SSB in AUTO mode.
 
  (Above is from Chapter 3 of The Elecraft KPA500 Amplifier and KAT500
  Tuner by KE7X, now available from Elecraft part number E740244.)
 
  Cheers and 73,
  Fred KE7X
 
  The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed
  The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit
  The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station) All now
  available from www.elecraft.com and
  KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
  http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Hard Case for K3

2014-06-09 Thread Ian - Ham
I use an old projector case, from an early generation computer projector.  In 
my case, it didn't cost me anything, and I can go purchase my own foam and cut 
it to suit my needs.

73 de,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038
K3# 281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 2:16 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Hard Case for K3

Does anyone have a good source for a case that will hold a K3.  Would like to 
have a hard case to use when transporting a K3 to FI and other portable 
locations.

Thanks,

Dick, K8ZTT

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 sluggish keyer

2014-06-09 Thread Sven Ladegast

Hello David,

I think I used the wrong word... Sluggish may not be tge correct term to 
describe the problem.

The KXPD3 is mechanically perfect for its size. The touch feel is good and can 
be adjusted with the different springs to my needs.

I meant the feel of the keyer, not the key itself. So I do not think a swap 
of the key makes a difference.

But anyway many thanks for offering this swap!

73!

Sven, DJ2AT

David Shoaf david.m.sh...@gmail.com schrieb:

Hi Sven,

Please contact Elecraft Customer Support to confirm the address.  They are
arranging to send you a replacement KXPD3.

Cheers,

David
Elecraft Customer Support



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 sluggish keyer

2014-06-09 Thread Wayne Burdick
We'll put this on the wish-list. Yes, it would affect both the KXAT3 and the 
KXAT100.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 9, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wayne,
 It would be indeed very good feature if ATU is updated during RX rather then
 the way it works now. Will you do that for KXPA100 with its ATU as well?  I
 would very much like that.

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Re: [Elecraft] Expecting a delivery ... but didn't happen

2014-06-09 Thread Phil Kane
On 6/6/2014 12:00 PM, Gene wrote:

 They have very specific location device/software that uses Google Maps.

Google Maps, MapQuest, and most GPS programs shows my address as a
vacant lot 1/4 mile up the street on the other side.  On my side of the
street the numbers are in the 75xx series - on the other side they are
in the 94xx series.  The regular drivers know about this  but the
weekend drivers do not.
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Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 sluggish keyer

2014-06-09 Thread Sven Ladegast
Hello Wayne,

Many thanks for your answer! This sounds exactly like my problem.

Since I am using the KX3 with different antennas it could be that the ATU used 
old parameters found from one of my other antennas and sent these values to the 
relays when I start to transmit though I had a perfect match some kHz away 
before. This at least explains why the ATU starts a tuning and ends up with a 
bad SWR occassionally plus having a little lag before transmission starts.. 
Until now I did not utilize the memory clear function for the ATU but I think 
that clearing memories after using a new antenna would solve this problem 
completely for me.

I am using iambic mode B with the keyer and if I have some kind of little pause 
between the dits and dahs during keying the MCU could recognize this as the 
first word pause and update L/C-data to the tuner which results in an 
interrupted first character.

Setting the ATU to bypass should also prevent the above problem and should make 
keying as responsive as normal.

Additionally I will try to sand the contact screws to a convex contact shape as 
well as adding 2 wires from the GND pad to the each lever's spring holder screw 
to improve contact reliability.

Many thanks for your explanation Wayne! It just felt the way that the MCU was 
missing keyer input. Thats why my idea with the interrupts...

Being an engineer is not that easy...you'll always find new problems to already 
available solutions! Hi

73!

Sven, DJ2AT

Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com schrieb:

Sven,

This has nothing to do with interrupt routines, etc. 

When you transmit, the KX3 first checks to see if you have moved the VFO to a 
new band segment for ATU purposes. This is typically every 20 kHz, but may 
be a smaller or larger increment depending on the band and on whether you have 
trained the KX3 at multiple points within a band.

If the KX3 finds that new L/C data is available for the segment you're now 
transmitting in, it must retrieve that data and send it to the KXAT3 module. 
The KXAT3 has latching relays, so it takes a significant fraction of a second 
(up to about 200 ms) to do all of the relay updates.

In non-CW modes, this L/C update is done immediately, since a one-time delay 
of this length is usually of no concern. 

However, in CW mode, a 200-ms delay can interrupt keying. So we had to choose 
between two options:

1. interrupt the first character sent

2. attempt to insert the L/C update between words

We chose the latter. As soon as there appears to be a word-space-length pause 
in transmission by the operator, the KX3 will send the new ATU data to the 
KXAT3 and flash the ATU icon a couple of times.

In practice this works well most of the time. You may be noticing the effect 
of leaving a word-lengh space, but starting to key the radio just before it 
has completed ATU update, which of course holds off transmission.

In a future firmware release we may allow the operator to select automatic L/C 
updates during VFO tuning. The sound of relays updating occasionally as the 
VFO is tuned would be objectionable to many, which is why we didn't do it this 
way initially. If we add this feature, you'll need to select it with a menu 
entry.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Jun 9, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Sven Ladegast s...@ladegast.info wrote:

 Hello folks,
 
 I am experiencing from time to time that the KX3 internal keyer is kinda 
 sluggish and misses here and there a dot or the timing is weird. This 
 mostly happens at the beginning of transmissions.
 
 I have tried another key (Kent double paddle) with my KX3 and I can exclude 
 it is the stock paddle which has contact problems. The key is working fine 
 on another external keyer.
 
 It is extremely irritating and on some transmissions the ATU starts a new 
 tuning cycle (maybe critical tuning on antenna) and exactly in these moments 
 the keyer misses dots or dashes, often more than one.
 
 It seems whenever the MCU has too much to do (tuning cycle of ATU, some 
 other task) the interrupts for the keyer input get lost and the actual 
 character is malformed.
 
 It happens with MCU firmware 1.87 and 1.94beta.
 
 This is an extremely annoying feature which I really would like to go away 
 in one of the next firmware releases.
 
 From an embedded developer's point of view I would say that there is too 
 much code executed in interrupt service routines that block the MCU from 
 executing the keyer timing correctly.
 
 I have found that parts of the stock paddle have been swapped out to reduce 
 the problem but in my opinion this will not cure the problem. Since contact 
 problems are contributing to the problem one might experience a better keyer 
 timing with exchanged or filed contacts at the paddle but the sluggish 
 feeling is still there.
 
 I know that this is hard to find in the MCU firmware but there is one 
 directive a firmware developer should follow:
 
 When entering an interrupt service routine interrupts must be disabled. *No* 
 code 

Re: [Elecraft] Hard Case for K3

2014-06-09 Thread K8JHR
You might also explore what the music stores sell for transporting 
musical gear such as mixers and other sound processing gear, and see 
what might be adapted for your use.  Musicians have been hauling 
sensitive gear around for decades.  Look for heavy duty road cases.


Good luck.
--- K8JHR ---

On 6/9/2014 3:50 PM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote:

A lot of people have used various Pelican Cases which apparently give good 
protection at a moderate price.

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 and KAT500 setup (Training the KAT500)

2014-06-09 Thread Fred Jensen
I trained my KAT500 right after I built it, I run it in MANUAL, and it's 
about as perfect as you can get.  I don't think I've ever asked for an 
additional feature, so here goes:


I use a C-R dipole @~65 ft for 40, 30,  17, and 12 [the GAP Titan is 
just too noisy on those bands].  I built it from two lengths of 450 ohm 
window-line.  Works great ... like a fan-dipole, it has a dipole 
pattern on all bands instead of squirting my RF in undesired directions 
on 17 and 12.  The problem:  450 ohm window-line is somewhat sensitive 
to rain, fog, snow, ice, and other forms of wetness.  Thus, I need to 
re-train at the beginning of the rain, and again when summer arrives 
[almost never rains in the N. Cal Sierra foothills from about May to 
Oct].  So,


1.  Two banks of EEPROM to store separate training values.  As an 
accessory would be fine for me, a lot of folk have stable antennas and, 
in the Elecraft Ethic, should not have to pay for it if they don't 
need it.


2.  As an alternative, add a Train Your KAT500 option in the KAT500 
Utility.  Upside is that doing it manually takes quite awhile.  Down 
side is that your 20W tune signal is sure to step very briefly on 
someone somewhere since the Utility won't have any good way of know if 
the chosen training frequency is occupied [Don't use 14230 or 14300 
:-)].  The Utility could maybe allow you to select segments used [mine 
would all be CW] which would lessen the on-air impact.


And now, I await someone telling me that the KAT500 Utility already does 
this.  I don't see it there, but I've overlooked a lot of features on my 
Elecraft gear.


Fred K6DGW
TDY Livermore CA

On 6/9/2014 8:03 PM, Cady, Fred wrote:

Hello again on the training of the KAT500:
Don W3WPR points out that I forgot to mention that each band has segments for 
which you should find the tuner settings. The segment widths are:
Below 3 MHz -- 10 kHz
3MHz to 26 MHz -- 20 kHz
26 MHz to 38 MHz -- 100 kHz
38 MHz to 60 MHz -- 200 kHz
You should train the KAT500 on at least one frequency in each segment.  For 
example, on 20 meters, start at about 14.010 and then move up the band in 20 
kHz jumps to fully train the tuner for the entire band.  Of course you don't 
have to train it for the whole band or every band if you don't operate on some 
frequencies.

73,
Fred KE7x




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Re: [Elecraft] Expecting a delivery ... but didn't happen

2014-06-09 Thread Fred Jensen
We have to tell visitors to ignore the numbers on the mail boxes, they 
appear psuedo-random [they're not, but it's a long story]. We've had new 
visitors looking for 670 [us] give up and backtrack when they got to 
680[1/4 mi before us], and then do it again when some of the boxes on 
the road across from our gravel driveway [including ours] are in the 700's.


After some Couldn't find address situations with the carriers, I wrote 
to UPS, FedEx, and our local Postmaster and explained the problem and 
apparently it worked because we haven't had a non-delivered delivery 
in years.  I also put in some barbed wire on the outside fences 
guaranteed to keep elephants out.  Must have worked also, we have 
never had an elephant in the pastures ... that I know of.


73,

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA

On 6/9/2014 9:56 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
Google Maps, MapQuest, and most GPS programs shows my address as a 
vacant lot 1/4 mile up the street on the other side. On my side of the 
street the numbers are in the 75xx series - on the other side they are 
in the 94xx series. The regular drivers know about this but the 
weekend drivers do not.



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Re: [Elecraft] Hard Case for K3

2014-06-09 Thread charlie carroll
Pelican case.  Pick the case size depending on what else you want to
carry in it.  Cut the sponge insert to fit the radio.

73 charlie, k1xx/vp2mll/pj4x/hk1
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Re: [Elecraft] Expecting a delivery ... but didn't happen

2014-06-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
We have a similar situation here - on a private road - and I do believe 
the numbers were randomly assigned.  Coming down the road, one 
sequentially encounters 1062, then 1060, then 1063, then 1064 - 1061 has 
been passed 1/4 mile before and there are intervening numbers between.


Somehow USPS, UPS and FedEx have figured it out.  Google Earth has it 
right, but most GPS units lump all those addresses in the middle of the 
road.


So we have not had a problem with the carriers, but I am not sure how 
they have figured it out.  The department that assigns addresses is 
connected with the USPS delivery addressing system, but I do not know 
the order - to me it seems quite arbitrary, but there must be some 
sensibility in what appears to be chaos.


Only once have I had a parcel delivered to the wrong house, and that was 
by DHL - the other carriers have done a great job for me.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/9/2014 7:48 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
We have to tell visitors to ignore the numbers on the mail boxes, they 
appear psuedo-random [they're not, but it's a long story]. We've had 
new visitors looking for 670 [us] give up and backtrack when they 
got to 680[1/4 mi before us], and then do it again when some of the 
boxes on the road across from our gravel driveway [including ours] are 
in the 700's.


After some Couldn't find address situations with the carriers, I 
wrote to UPS, FedEx, and our local Postmaster and explained the 
problem and apparently it worked because we haven't had a 
non-delivered delivery in years.  I also put in some barbed wire on 
the outside fences guaranteed to keep elephants out.  Must have 
worked also, we have never had an elephant in the pastures ... that I 
know of.


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Re: [Elecraft] Hard Case for K3

2014-06-09 Thread James Hooper
Dick, 

Though I have not bought one, someone else posted here that they use a Nanuk 
940 case to hold a K3 and a P3.I made a note of it because it looked like a 
pretty good case to my eyes.YMMV. 

73, 
Hoop
K9QJS 



On Jun 9, 2014, at 11:16 , Dick k8...@centurylink.net wrote:

Does anyone have a good source for a case that will hold a K3.  Would like to 
have a hard case to use when transporting a K3 to FI and other portable 
locations.

Thanks,

Dick, K8ZTT

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 sluggish keyer

2014-06-09 Thread Ignacy
Retuning to preset frequencies is a plus when operating with same antennas. 
It is a problem with portable antennas. If a portable antenna has a
bandwidth of 300KHz, why should it require a retune every 20 KHz? 
 
I would vote for a menu choice to select either presets or tuning on demand
as in K2.  

Ignacy, NO9E



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[Elecraft] [KX3] Seapac Options

2014-06-09 Thread Jim H via Elecraft
Hi all,
For those who didn't go to Sea Pac and see the new options here is a visual 
 report.
The 2/4m option is the credit card size mounted on the ATU module. It's not 
 much over 1/8 in thickness. 
I don't know if it was the 2m or 4m option. Suspect it was a 2m.
The PX3 looks like shrunken P3. The front looks the same just smaller. The  
I/O is on the left side with lots of ports. The cabling needs to have right 
 angle plugs on both ends as the units will be spaced out quite a bit. I 
was able  to get Dick to open the PX3 to check out the internals. NO batteries 
external  power only. There is some room inside, but who knows what other 
options will go  inside? Like the P3 when first introduced maybe in the 
future Ext monitor  card. There was two boards inside one next to the screen 
and 
another smaller  card for power and I/O. The power uses the similar plug and 
cable used on the  KX3. The display wasn't bright, it was in a bright 
building.
 
73
Jim H
K7SSS
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