Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Good grief..

No opions allowed unless cleared by a superior i guess.

Oh well, like i dsidwhat would i know?

Gary
Vk1ZZ
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On 26/10/2014 12:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV w...@subich.com wrote:


 On 2014-10-25 9:06 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

 Manufacturers changing drivers and penalizing end users is more than
 lazy to my way of thinkingbut what would i know?


 Does your government allow you to use counterfeit currency if you
 received it from someone else?  ... or should you be allowed to
 keep a stolen K-line if you purchased it from the person who stole
 it?

 73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


 On 2014-10-25 9:06 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

 Using an old Prolific here still. No known issues to date.
 Interedtingly, using teo FTDI cabled i get interference so placed them in
 the junk cable box. One came from Elecraft and the other from ebay.
 I can easily accept a counterfeit from ebay but the Elecraft supplied
 cable
 was annoying to say the least.
 Manufacturers changing drivers and penalizing end users is more than lazy
 to my way of thinkingbut what would i know?

 Gary
 Vk1ZZ
 K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
 On 26/10/2014 1:49 AM, Michael Walker va...@portcredit.net wrote:

  I've changed all my devices to Moxa's or Lantronix devices, that way I
 don't have to worry about not having the ports installed on my desktop or
 laptop.

 These are RS232 over IP devices.

 Mike va3mw


 On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:17 AM, W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

  Perhaps the best bet is to install real serial ports - I have two. One

 for

 the K3 and the other for my TS480. As I recall, I paid about $20 for the
 board - a long time ago. It has been in several computers. To me, the

 place

 for the adapter is inside the K3 - that way everyone gets the same thing

 to

 work with and Elecraft will assure it works properly from git go. No
 more
 screwing around with real/counterfeit/bogus products and drivers - just
 a
 single source that works for sure.

 Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Build #7552 Progress

2014-10-26 Thread Kevin Schache
The four trimmers provided for C32, C34, C44, and C46 are supposed to be 
5-30pF ceramics but the ones supplied appear to be quite different.


They have a brown plastic type body and don't appear to be ceramic. I 
can find no markings on the trimmers to indicate their capacitance. The 
inside adjustment screw head is + shaped rather than a single slot for 
use with a small flat blade screwdriver. All this makes it difficult to 
set these trimmers to the mid-point as specified in the manual page 68 
Figure 6-23.
So I decide to find their midpoint by measuring them before inserting 
them, but came up with 20 -70pF which is a lot different from the 
expected 5-30pF.

I don't think my capacitance meter would be that far out.

The other two 50pF trimmers, C21 and C23 are certainly ceramic.
I've checked various assembly photos and they all appear to clearly show 
ceramic trimmers.


Can anyone tell me if these are a correct replacement?
Should I proceed to find the measured midpoint of these on the basis 
that they are a correct replacement?


Thanks,
Kev  VK5KS







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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Impressions

2014-10-26 Thread Bill Frantz

On 10/25/14 at 1:27 PM, k...@comcast.net (Jan) wrote:


*Received the PX3 on the 9th ~ assembly was straight forward with a little
assistance from tech-support**. OOPS, I placed the bezel on the wrong-side
of the front panel = end-plate doesn't  fit well that way. :-)


I did that too. After I had corrected the error and finished 
assembly, I then down loaded the manual errata sheet which had 
warnings not to install the bezel on the inside. :-)


Note that the errata sheet is dated October 17, 2014 which is 
about the time my PX3 shipped.


The PX3 is up and running now, but the serial number, 555, makes 
me think I have a timer chip HIHI.


I join Jim Brown in wanting fixed track mode. It is a lot harder 
to tune to a signal on the waterfall on the PX3 than it is on 
the P3 in fixed track, since you can't see where you are in the 
waterfall as you tune. If the waterfall panned as you tune, it 
might be easier. Marker A is the best way I have found, but it 
adds an extra step of complexity in tuning.


On the P3, I have it set up so when I switch to a WARC band (or 
160 meters), I have the whole band displayed on the waterfall. 
It is nice to have band at a glance information about signals 
a few seconds after switching.


73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread Jim Brown

On 10/25/2014 11:32 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

Good grief..

No opions allowed unless cleared by a superior i guess.

Oh well, like i dsidwhat would i know?


Hi Gary,

You're allowed to have an opinion, but so are the rest of us. I agree 
with Joe -- vendors who steal designs ought to be condemned. Behringer 
established a reputation for doing that a decade or so ago, and the pro 
audio community condemned them (as did at least one court). Those who 
buy cheap stuff from unknown vendors should not be surprised when it 
turns out to be stolen or junk. Elecraft sells USB to serial interface 
cables of known good quality. The real stuff usually does cost more than 
junk.


I serve on an international Standards Committee (the Audio Engineering 
Society) with representatives of several very good manufacturers who 
have told me of their problems with counterfeits, and most of it is 
junk. For example, connectors that don't mate because their dimensions 
are wrong, and mics that look like the real thing but don't sound like 
the real thing.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread G4GNX

Joe.

Some of us have other things to do, so opinions may take time. :-)

Prolific are just a pain, but understandable that they would retaliate and 
disable their driver.


FTDI on the other hand should be severely slapped. To use your government 
analogy, if someone is known to be handling stolen money, you don't just 
steal it back, that is illegal. You confiscate the goods and you take the 
case through the courts, keeping the 'suspect' informed at all times. In the 
case of counterfeit money, you don't just destroy the currency and say 
nothing.


If FTDI can't afford their own police force they do have the option to 
approach various governments and trade bodies to get the counterfeiting 
stopped, although they may be into a hiding for nothing by trying to stop 
the cheap Chinese copies. Nobody wants to upset the Chinese because there's 
too much money involved in other trade with them. Greed and money before 
principles! :-(



73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Gary Gregory

Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:32 AM
To: Joe Subich, W4TV
Cc: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

Good grief..

No opions allowed unless cleared by a superior i guess.

Oh well, like i dsidwhat would i know?

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 26/10/2014 12:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV w...@subich.com wrote:



On 2014-10-25 9:06 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:


Manufacturers changing drivers and penalizing end users is more than
lazy to my way of thinkingbut what would i know?



Does your government allow you to use counterfeit currency if you
received it from someone else?  ... or should you be allowed to
keep a stolen K-line if you purchased it from the person who stole
it?

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV 


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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Impressions

2014-10-26 Thread Jim Brown

On 10/26/2014 12:32 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
*Received the PX3 on the 9th ~ assembly was straight forward with a 
little
assistance from tech-support**. OOPS, I placed the bezel on the 
wrong-side

of the front panel = end-plate doesn't  fit well that way. :-)


I did that too. After I had corrected the error and finished assembly, 
I then down loaded the manual errata sheet which had warnings not to 
install the bezel on the inside. 


I made the same mistake.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread Jim Brown

On 10/26/2014 2:22 AM, G4GNX wrote:

FTDI on the other hand should be severely slapped.


Let's see if I understand this. Someone steals from me, I take measures 
to make it difficult for someone to use what has been stolen, and I am 
the bad guy?


In most of the civilized world, buying stolen goods is a crime. And in 
most religions, it's also immoral.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] K3 enhancement

2014-10-26 Thread G4GNX
If the guys at Elecraft don’t pick this up, I will submit it directly, but I 
also wanted to get opinions.


I have only recently acquired a K3 and due to home circumstances, I’ve not 
had time to exploit its full potential. In fact I’ve only transmitted into a 
dummy load!


In the meantime, I am still using my Icom IC7100, until I can get the shack 
moved indoors and hook everything up to my satisfaction. The jury’s out on 
whether I will eventually sell off the IC7100, because it does have many 
features that the K3 does not, but in some areas it does not perform nearly 
as well as the K3s.


Apart from the 2M, 70cm, D-STAR native capability, the IC7100 does have one 
feature that I often find useful – ‘beeps’ when I tune past the Amateur Band 
edges. It’s a small nicety which helps in my constant quest to be lazy. 
Smile
It saves me having to stop and think “where are the band edges” on bands 
that I don’t use very much without looking them up.


So, my suggestion for small enhancement is a band-edge beeper.

I appreciate that although it’s a small ask, it may be a major programming 
headache, but hopefully worth consideration and would help to further set 
the K3 above the rest.


I also notice that if I tune way out if band, the background noise 
diminishes noticeably and I presume that the sensitivity has markedly 
decreased? The problem with using that as a band-edge marker is that you 
have to tune a long way out of band before anything noticeable happens.


73,

Alan. G4GNX 


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Re: [Elecraft] Sad news, G4ILO

2014-10-26 Thread MontyS
I had come to know Julian through his apps for the K3.  A true gentle 
person. I will also miss him and am saddened by his death.
Monty Shultes, K2DLJ 


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Re: [Elecraft] Sad news, G4ILO

2014-10-26 Thread Stewart
Very sad news, a real loss to Amateur Radio.

Operating in CQWW I am thinking of him as I use one of the many programs 
(VOAProp) that he so generously donated to the hobby.

RIP Julian,

Stewart G3RXQ

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 23:24:36 +0200, Raymund Band wrote:
 Me too, I have followed Julian right through the blog and the  KComm etc.
 era and, of course, the ill-health of the past three years.
 God rest his soul.

 Raymund / SM5XLP

 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Från: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] För Brendan Minish
 Skickat: den 25 oktober 2014 23:06
 Till: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Ämne: [Elecraft] Sad news, G4ILO

 I was greatly saddened to hear that Julian G4ILO passed away yesterday, I
 suspect that quite a few of us here knew him at least via RF and the
 reflector.

 http://onefootingrave.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/25-october-sad-message.html


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 73
 Brendan EI6IZ

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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread Michael Walker
In China  they brag about how they have stolen intellectual property.

Mike va3mw

On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
wrote:

 On 10/26/2014 2:22 AM, G4GNX wrote:

 FTDI on the other hand should be severely slapped.


 Let's see if I understand this. Someone steals from me, I take measures to
 make it difficult for someone to use what has been stolen, and I am the bad
 guy?

 In most of the civilized world, buying stolen goods is a crime. And in
 most religions, it's also immoral.


 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread G4GNX

No Jim, it's not such a clear cut situation.

Of course manufacturers should be able to protect their interests, but 
taking acceptable measures depends on the degree of the measures and as 
usual the (often innocent) end-user is bearing the brunt of the 'measures' 
instead of the perpetrators of the crime.
The entire scenario is confusing in the extreme. The 'genuine' manufacturers 
sell their chips with a view to 3rd parties using them in interfaces which 
they then sell. The end-user mostly will have no idea which chip they have 
purchase in good faith. Even the technically competent of us will not stop 
to question what's inside the box. You buy according to published details 
and would find it very difficult to detect the lies on face value.


To simply disable a facility because you 'think' it's counterfeit and then 
not inform the user, is futile. The deed has already been done, the money's 
changed hands and all you've done is to cost yourself money in retaliation 
development with no hope of recovering your losses. You have also gotten 
yourself a reputation as a manufacturer of bad designs, because the public 
in general can't differentiate between the real thing and the counterfeit. 
That's why we have laws to be administered by people who (hopefully) know 
what they're doing and who have the resources to prove the case and make it 
stick against the source.


Microsoft with all their faults seem to have mostly got it right. To use 
Windows legally you have to validate and everyone knows this. If you don't 
abide by the rules or attempt to validate a hooky copy, the facility 
(Windows) will be withdrawn and you will receive a message telling you why 
and how to go about rectifying the situation. Microsoft do not attempt to 
disable any part of your PC's hardware, which is what FTDI have done and in 
my view is plain wrong!


Folks can sit on their pedestals and claim that you should know better than 
to buy a 'cheap' product , but often there's not a vast difference in 
prices and human nature being what it is, people like a bargain or a 
perceived saving. The criminals exploit this trait and IMO it's up to the 
vendors to go after the criminals directly, not a few end-users who will 
give up on the device and nobody wins.


If I lived in the USA or was about to visit imminently, I'd happily buy what 
I need direct from Elecraft as a responsible/reputable supplier, but as I'm 
in the UK I've ordered a USB/RS232 interface cable direct from FTDI in 
Scotland. The purchase price is significantly lower than that from Elecraft, 
due to shipping costs and taxes, plus I do not wish to wait over a week to 
receive it or pay courier prices for fast delivery.


Hopefully you can see my point? The device I've ordered is cheaper, but that 
does not make me suspicious that it's counterfeit. If the device arrived and 
was counterfeit, I'd be extremely surprised and very angry and would kick 
ass!


73,

Alan. G4GNX


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Brown

Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:33 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

On 10/26/2014 2:22 AM, G4GNX wrote:

FTDI on the other hand should be severely slapped.


Let's see if I understand this. Someone steals from me, I take measures
to make it difficult for someone to use what has been stolen, and I am
the bad guy?

In most of the civilized world, buying stolen goods is a crime. And in
most religions, it's also immoral.

73, Jim K9YC 


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[Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread Neil Zampella

Just a heads up ...

FTDI has released another update of their driver, removing the offending 
code that disables counterfeit chips, the older driver that does the 
disabling has been removed from the Windows update.


However, if you have a previously bricked RS232/USB converter, there is 
no easy way to fix that issue other than going into the chips NVRAM and 
resetting the hardware code.


Neil
KB3TVU
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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread G4GNX
The FTDI drivers mostly work with the legitimate FTDI chips, but not always, 
because FTDI screwed up.


The latest FTDI drivers won't work with the counterfeit chips, but the 
remedy is simple - use an older driver and disable Windows Update (which I 
don't like anyway).


The difference between buying a key for the wrong lock is that the key does 
not attempt to destroy the inside of the lock (unless you hit it with a 
hammer grin).


The latest FTDI driver attempts to disable the internals of the chip itself 
and sometimes manages to hit genuine chips. They caught a cold on that one 
and have apparently been forced to withdraw it. That hit their reputation 
far more than the counterfeits which they did not manufacture.


I purchased a programming cable for a TYT hand-held from a 'reputable' 
supplier and that turned out to be a fake. What should happen is that the 
cable should be returned, a refund issued and the driver manufacturer 
informed but that would involve one company wasting time on another's 
business and in these days where time is money, it doesn't happen. In the 
meantime I just wanna program my rig, so I find the easiest way out - 
install an earlier driver. Yes, it's wrong but I don't have time to do 
others' bidding, and the only way I know if there's a 'bum' chip in the 
cable is by buying it first and using it.


We can all be holier than thou when it comes to what other people should 
do, but when it's ourselves, we all tend to do what it takes to get the 
result we want, even committing minor crime. Show me one person who has 
never bent the rules for their own small gain and I'll show you a liar!


73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Brian

Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:13 AM
To: G4GNX
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

Let me see.  The FTDI drivers work only on their legitimate chips.  They
don't work on the counterfeit chips. OK so far?

If you try and use FTDI drivers for counterfeit chips failure will
result.  That's OK too.

I don't know what kind of drivers are sent with counterfeit chip or
whether they even work.  If you try and upgrade the drivers to legit
FTDI ones, they will fail.  What would you expect?

This really is no different than buying a key for a lock.  It works on
that lock and doesn't work on other locks.

The real issue: how does one know that have a genuine FTDI chip in the
USB/RS232 converter purchased.  This takes some homework and finding a
reliable source.

One has to realize that manufacturers have to try an protect their
products from counterfeit knock offs.  Their bottom line and reputation
is at stake.

73 de Brian/K3KO 


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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread G4GNX
Yes Neil, the damage is not irreparable if you know how to do it, but 90% of 
the public will perceive their device as clinically dead!


My point is that FTDI realized their error and removed it. Whilst not 
resolving their situation, they at least have saved some 'face'.


73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Neil Zampella

Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:41 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

Just a heads up ...

FTDI has released another update of their driver, removing the offending
code that disables counterfeit chips, the older driver that does the
disabling has been removed from the Windows update.

However, if you have a previously bricked RS232/USB converter, there is
no easy way to fix that issue other than going into the chips NVRAM and
resetting the hardware code.

Neil
KB3TVU 


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Build #7552 Progress

2014-10-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Kev,

Those are the trimmer caps that are currently used.  Yes, they are not 
ceramic, but they have good temperature compensation characteristics 
(better than the original ceramics).


Observe the flat side orientation when installing those capacitors so 
they can be properly adjusted when using a metallic adjustment tool.  If 
you cannot discern the flat side on the silkscreen, look at the parts 
placement diagram in the back of the manual.


It is not essential that they be set to midpoint, you will be able to 
easily determine the proper tuning point when you come to the alignment 
procedure.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/26/2014 2:56 AM, Kevin Schache wrote:
The four trimmers provided for C32, C34, C44, and C46 are supposed to 
be 5-30pF ceramics but the ones supplied appear to be quite different.


They have a brown plastic type body and don't appear to be ceramic. I 
can find no markings on the trimmers to indicate their capacitance. 
The inside adjustment screw head is + shaped rather than a single slot 
for use with a small flat blade screwdriver. All this makes it 
difficult to set these trimmers to the mid-point as specified in the 
manual page 68 Figure 6-23.
So I decide to find their midpoint by measuring them before inserting 
them, but came up with 20 -70pF which is a lot different from the 
expected 5-30pF.

I don't think my capacitance meter would be that far out.

The other two 50pF trimmers, C21 and C23 are certainly ceramic.
I've checked various assembly photos and they all appear to clearly 
show ceramic trimmers.


Can anyone tell me if these are a correct replacement?
Should I proceed to find the measured midpoint of these on the basis 
that they are a correct replacement?







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Re: [Elecraft] K3 enhancement

2014-10-26 Thread Brian Linn
Alan:

Mine beeps and displays BND END and does so at precisely the edge of a band. 

Brian KD0HII


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of G4GNX
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 04:50
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 enhancement

If the guys at Elecraft don’t pick this up, I will submit it directly, but I 
also wanted to get opinions.

I have only recently acquired a K3 and due to home circumstances, I’ve not had 
time to exploit its full potential. In fact I’ve only transmitted into a dummy 
load!

In the meantime, I am still using my Icom IC7100, until I can get the shack 
moved indoors and hook everything up to my satisfaction. The jury’s out on 
whether I will eventually sell off the IC7100, because it does have many 
features that the K3 does not, but in some areas it does not perform nearly as 
well as the K3s.

Apart from the 2M, 70cm, D-STAR native capability, the IC7100 does have one 
feature that I often find useful – ‘beeps’ when I tune past the Amateur Band 
edges. It’s a small nicety which helps in my constant quest to be lazy. 
Smile
It saves me having to stop and think “where are the band edges” on bands that I 
don’t use very much without looking them up.

So, my suggestion for small enhancement is a band-edge beeper.

I appreciate that although it’s a small ask, it may be a major programming 
headache, but hopefully worth consideration and would help to further set the 
K3 above the rest.

I also notice that if I tune way out if band, the background noise diminishes 
noticeably and I presume that the sensitivity has markedly decreased? The 
problem with using that as a band-edge marker is that you have to tune a long 
way out of band before anything noticeable happens.

73,

Alan. G4GNX 

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[Elecraft] FS: K2/10

2014-10-26 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Elecrafters,

A local ham, who does not know much English, needs to sell his K2 s/n 42xx to 
raise fund due to family issues.  This K2 was built by me and consists of:

K2 basic HF transceiver kit
KSB2 SSB module
KNB2 noise blanker
KAT2 antenna tuning unit
KDSP2 dsp unit
KBT2 - battery bracket (without battery)
K160RX - 160m + 2nd RX ant

Total current price = USD1520 + shipping

I am selling the K2 on behalf of the local ham.  The price is USD1000 including 
shipping by air parcel post to major countries and cites.  Payment can be done 
by paypal and wire transfers.  We can share the fees 50/50.

The rig has been little used and in non-smoking envirnoment.  Photos are 
available upon request.  If interested or ask questions, please contact me 
off-the-list.

73

Johnny VR2XMC
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[Elecraft] K3 Software

2014-10-26 Thread Joel Black
Several years back, there was a freely available piece of software that 
would do several things with the K3. One of those things was that it 
would run through and give you an SWR bandwidth in a text file.


If memory serves, the icon had a yellow background with K3 on it.

Does that ring a bell with anyone? If so, do you know the name of the 
software and from where I might get a copy?


Thanks,
Joel - W4JBB

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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB - Urgent

2014-10-26 Thread Phil Wheeler

Hi, Lisa --

I've been using the various Elecraft rigs and 
accessories (K3, KX3, P3, KPA500, KAT500) with a 
Windows 8.1 computer starting in March of this 
year. I believe I'm using only Elecraft-provided 
FTDI USB-RS232 converters (there may be one in the 
mix from Amazon, also FTDI) and I've had no 
problems running Windows 8.1 and interfacing with 
my Elecraft hardware at any time.


73, Phil W7OX

On 10/25/14 9:26 PM, Barry Simpson wrote:

Good afternoon (it's Sunday afternoon and 35 degrees C here)

Please see my email below - panic over !!

I trawled through the websites of various local computer and electronics
suppliers and found that Jaycar - a big Australian electronic parts
retailer with lots of branches - apparently had a USB to Serial convertor
that works with Windows 8 and 8.1.

So I just went and bought one and lo and behold it was absolutely plug and
play. The K3 and Windows 8.1 are playing happily together again.

Interestingly the convertor appears to have a Prolific chip as the Jaycar
website has a link (from the details of this particular item) to Prolific
where details of all the various Prolific chips are shown together with
their compatability with the various versions of Windows.

I am also forwarding this to the reflector in case any of my VK friends are
having similar problems.

73

Barry  VK2BJ

On 25 October 2014 18:28, Barry Simpson vk...@optusnet.com.au wrote:


Good afternoon

My Prolific KUSB has been working satisfactorily for years with various
computers up to and including Windows 7.

However, I have just bought a small Windows 8 laptop to take on holiday
for use with my K3 and the KUSB won't work with it.

I think that your new KUSB's with the FTDI chips do work with Windows 8.
If this is the case, how quickly can you ship one to me by the fastest air
mail possible as I am going on holiday in just over two weeks.

I await your urgent reply.

73

Barry Simpson  VK2BJ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Software

2014-10-26 Thread Phil Wheeler

Joel,

Have you tried the programs listed here 
http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm ?


Phil W7OX

On 10/26/14 7:16 AM, Joel Black wrote:
Several years back, there was a freely available 
piece of software that would do several things 
with the K3. One of those things was that it 
would run through and give you an SWR bandwidth 
in a text file.


If memory serves, the icon had a yellow 
background with K3 on it.


Does that ring a bell with anyone? If so, do you 
know the name of the software and from where I 
might get a copy?


Thanks,
Joel - W4JBB


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Software

2014-10-26 Thread Jim N7US
You're probably thinking of K3_EZ.  I believe the developer is now a SK.  I
think the last version had a bug, but I have the last three versions in my
Google Drive:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-V-5Vmska0HS2RicDA3TTBRRlUusp=shar
ing 

73, Jim N7US



-Original Message-


Several years back, there was a freely available piece of software that
would do several things with the K3. One of those things was that it would
run through and give you an SWR bandwidth in a text file.

If memory serves, the icon had a yellow background with K3 on it.

Does that ring a bell with anyone? If so, do you know the name of the
software and from where I might get a copy?

Thanks,
Joel - W4JBB


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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread Phil Wheeler

Jim,

I agree and disagree.

vendors who steal designs ought to be condemned. 
Behringer established a reputation for doing 
that a decade or so ago, and the pro audio 
community condemned them (as did at least one 
court). 

Yes they should be condemned and punished.
Those who buy cheap stuff from unknown vendors 
should not be surprised when it turns out to be 
stolen or junk. Elecraft sells USB to serial 
interface cables of known good quality. The real 
stuff usually does cost more than junk. 
Punishing unknowing customers -- and most will not 
know they bought items with these problems, since 
vendors of good repute occasionally make mistakes 
and most of us cannot track the source of each 
chip in a product -- is just plain wrong-headed of 
FTDI. May they suffer the consequences to their 
reputation.


73, Phil W7OX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Software

2014-10-26 Thread Jim N7US
Here's a shorter link: http://tinyurl.com/mr4pe4q 

73, Jim N7US



-Original Message-


You're probably thinking of K3_EZ.  I believe the developer is now a SK.  I
think the last version had a bug, but I have the last three versions in my
Google Drive:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-V-5Vmska0HS2RicDA3TTBRRlUusp=shar
ing 

73, Jim N7US



-Original Message-


Several years back, there was a freely available piece of software that
would do several things with the K3. One of those things was that it would
run through and give you an SWR bandwidth in a text file.

If memory serves, the icon had a yellow background with K3 on it.

Does that ring a bell with anyone? If so, do you know the name of the
software and from where I might get a copy?

Thanks,
Joel - W4JBB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Software

2014-10-26 Thread Mark Stennett
K3-EZ. Try this link.

http://na6m.com/EZ-K3/



 On Oct 26, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Joel Black w4...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Several years back, there was a freely available piece of software that would 
 do several things with the K3. One of those things was that it would run 
 through and give you an SWR bandwidth in a text file.
 
 If memory serves, the icon had a yellow background with K3 on it.
 
 Does that ring a bell with anyone? If so, do you know the name of the 
 software and from where I might get a copy?
 
 Thanks,
 Joel - W4JBB
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 enhancement

2014-10-26 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
What version of the firmware are you running?


  From: Brian Linn br...@brianlinn.com
 To: 'G4GNX' g4...@theatreorgans.co.uk; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 enhancement
   
Alan:

Mine beeps and displays BND END and does so at precisely the edge of a band. 

Brian KD0HII


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of G4GNX
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 04:50
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 enhancement

If the guys at Elecraft don’t pick this up, I will submit it directly, but I 
also wanted to get opinions.

I have only recently acquired a K3 and due to home circumstances, I’ve not had 
time to exploit its full potential. In fact I’ve only transmitted into a dummy 
load!

In the meantime, I am still using my Icom IC7100, until I can get the shack 
moved indoors and hook everything up to my satisfaction. The jury’s out on 
whether I will eventually sell off the IC7100, because it does have many 
features that the K3 does not, but in some areas it does not perform nearly as 
well as the K3s.

Apart from the 2M, 70cm, D-STAR native capability, the IC7100 does have one 
feature that I often find useful – ‘beeps’ when I tune past the Amateur Band 
edges. It’s a small nicety which helps in my constant quest to be lazy. 
Smile
It saves me having to stop and think “where are the band edges” on bands that I 
don’t use very much without looking them up.

So, my suggestion for small enhancement is a band-edge beeper.

I appreciate that although it’s a small ask, it may be a major programming 
headache, but hopefully worth consideration and would help to further set the 
K3 above the rest.

I also notice that if I tune way out if band, the background noise diminishes 
noticeably and I presume that the sensitivity has markedly decreased? The 
problem with using that as a band-edge marker is that you have to tune a long 
way out of band before anything noticeable happens.

73,

Alan. G4GNX 

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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface - the analogy

2014-10-26 Thread Dauer, Edward
Just for the record, buying stolen goods is not a crime.  *Knowingly*
buying stolen goods, however, often is.  In any case even an innocent
purchaser of stolen goods acquires no valid title to them.  If he loses
out to the rightful owner, it¹s he who has to go chase the thief.  That is
one of the traditional dimensions of the principle of Caveat Emptor (buyer
beware.)  How it fits into the present discussion I will let others decide.

End of OT law school lecture.

Ted, KN1CBR


Edward A. Dauer
Dean Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Law
University of Denver






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elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

Message: 29
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 02:33:50 -0700
From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface
Message-ID: 544cbffe.50...@audiosystemsgroup.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 10/26/2014 2:22 AM, G4GNX wrote:
FTDI on the other hand should be severely slapped.

Let's see if I understand this. Someone steals from me, I take measures
to make it difficult for someone to use what has been stolen, and I am
the bad guy?

In most of the civilized world, buying stolen goods is a crime. And in
most religions, it's also immoral.

73, Jim K9YC



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 enhancement

2014-10-26 Thread Bruce Beford
 Alan:
 Mine beeps and displays BND END and does so at precisely the edge of a 
 band. 
 Brian KD0HII

It only does this when you try to transmit beyond the band edge. I believe
what Alan (an others) have asked for, is a beep when tuning the VFO beyond a
band edge, while receiving.

This has been discussed many times in the past. Some people want it for
their particular country's band plan, other for their particular license
class. I hope we don't get into another drawn-out debate over this (again).

Bruce N1RX




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 enhancement

2014-10-26 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
It would be a nice Enhancement but as I see it it should just be for the Band 
Edges.

Incentive to Upgrade ;)




  From: Bruce Beford bef...@myfairpoint.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 enhancement
   
 Alan:
 Mine beeps and displays BND END and does so at precisely the edge of a 
 band. 
 Brian KD0HII

It only does this when you try to transmit beyond the band edge. I believe
what Alan (an others) have asked for, is a beep when tuning the VFO beyond a
band edge, while receiving.

This has been discussed many times in the past. Some people want it for
their particular country's band plan, other for their particular license
class. I hope we don't get into another drawn-out debate over this (again).

Bruce N1RX




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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread Kevin Stover

You are correct.
It's been around longer than USB on laptops and you could get PCMCIA 
cards for just about everything.
Ethernet, 56K modems, serial port, Air Cards (cell phones for your 
laptop), etc
With that said I don't use laptops. They're slow compared to a desktop, 
they're comparatively expensive compared to desktops, they're fragile 
and almost impossible for average computer user to repair.


I use desktops and I build my own. The ultimate no solder kit.
Each one of mine has three RS-232 ports. One is a dongle from the RS-232 
header on the motherboard. The mobo manufacturers haven't abandoned 
RS-232...they just don't supply the 9 pin port anymore. Each one of mine 
has an PCI-1X expansion card with two ports. Four port cards are available.


I don't have to dork around with adapters and try to keep track of who 
has counterfeit chips and who doesn't and which version of the drivers 
work with which version of the chips. One very good reason for Elecraft 
to not just walk away but RUN away from including USB ports on their 
products.


I do have one USB adapter for programming my Chinese handhelds with 
CHIRP. I paid more for an FTDI chip set.


On 10/25/2014 7:36 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
My impression is that PCMCIA aka PC Card, I think, went away some 
years ago. None of my three laptops has that feature.


Phil W7OX


-- R. Kevin Stover
AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 enhancement

2014-10-26 Thread David G4DMP
In a recent message, G4GNX g4...@theatreorgans.co.uk writes
So, my suggestion for small enhancement is a band-edge beeper.

This has been discussed many times, Alan; look back though the archives
and you will find them.  The problem is that we don't all share the same
band edges. 160m, 80m, 60, 40m, 2m, among others in the UK are different
from those in the USA. If we had the USA band edges we would certainly
have the risk of operating outside our bands.

Surely, with the clear display of the K3 and a copy of our licence
document by our side, most of us have sufficient nous to keep within our
bands. Eventually, you will learn what the band edges are.

73 de David G4DMP

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2014-10-26 Thread Kevin

Good Afternoon,
   It is difficult to remember just how dry it was only a few weeks 
ago.  Rain has ceased at times but almost exclusively at night.  
However, the forest is glowing green with all the moss coming back to 
life.  The odd vine maple adds a little red to the mix.


   The sun has been quite active this week with current SFU at 219.  
Oddly the flares are not throwing CMEs at earth.  One hour communication 
black outs have been common this week followed by great propagation with 
low noise.


Please join us this afternoon and evening.

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
Kevin. KD5ONS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 enhancement

2014-10-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
All been discussed before.

A far better place to put band-edge beepers would be in a logging program,
where various files with the myriad allocation schemes could be input by
the user to match that particular user's country, license class and mode,
etc. The outside allocation warning could include flashing lights,
disrespectful remarks, and a tattle-tail email sent to your mother.

This would be much easier to keep up than anything kept in firmware, with
memory restraints from ten years ago. Need to leave the K3's memory for
things that *must* be in the K3.

73, Guy K2AV


On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 2:44 PM, David G4DMP da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
wrote:

 In a recent message, G4GNX g4...@theatreorgans.co.uk writes
 So, my suggestion for small enhancement is a band-edge beeper.

 This has been discussed many times, Alan; look back though the archives
 and you will find them.  The problem is that we don't all share the same
 band edges. 160m, 80m, 60, 40m, 2m, among others in the UK are different
 from those in the USA. If we had the USA band edges we would certainly
 have the risk of operating outside our bands.

 Surely, with the clear display of the K3 and a copy of our licence
 document by our side, most of us have sufficient nous to keep within our
 bands. Eventually, you will learn what the band edges are.

 73 de David G4DMP

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[Elecraft] WANTED: NOISE BLANKER P3SVGA

2014-10-26 Thread zumbruns
Hi all.  I sure would like to see the promised noise blanker for the P3SVGA 
option implemented. I don't know how many of you are in noisy urban 
environments but I am and the P3SVGA upgrade is long overdue.  73, Steve W0SZ 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Software

2014-10-26 Thread Joel Black
Thanks for the help. I believe it was K3_EZ that was the software. I 
have downloaded it from one of the provided links.


73,
Joel - W4JBB

On 10/26/14, 9:16 AM, Joel Black wrote:
Several years back, there was a freely available piece of software 
that would do several things with the K3. One of those things was that 
it would run through and give you an SWR bandwidth in a text file.


If memory serves, the icon had a yellow background with K3 on it.

Does that ring a bell with anyone? If so, do you know the name of the 
software and from where I might get a copy?


Thanks,
Joel - W4JBB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Software

2014-10-26 Thread Jim N7US
I couldn't get the TX/RX equalizer tab to work in the most recent version,
but it does in the earlier ones.

73, Jim N7US



-Original Message-

Thanks for the help. I believe it was K3_EZ that was the software. I have
downloaded it from one of the provided links.

73,
Joel - W4JBB

On 10/26/14, 9:16 AM, Joel Black wrote:
 Several years back, there was a freely available piece of software 
 that would do several things with the K3. One of those things was that 
 it would run through and give you an SWR bandwidth in a text file.

 If memory serves, the icon had a yellow background with K3 on it.

 Does that ring a bell with anyone? If so, do you know the name of the 
 software and from where I might get a copy?

 Thanks,
 Joel - W4JBB


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[Elecraft] Now which mic can I use.

2014-10-26 Thread Timothy Gordish
I have several microphones on hand and wondering if any will work with my soon 
to be order KX3.

My preference is a Heil Pro-Set Plus which has two crystal elements and a phase 
reverse switch.  By far the most comfortable headset I have ever use.  Can I 
use these with an appropriate adapter?

Then I have a Yaesu HT speaker mic with the correct 4 conductor connector used 
with a VX-5.

Then I have a headset with the same connector which I used with a HP netbook.  
Cheep but sufficient.

Will any of these work, or should I just order the Elecraft hand mike?

73 de Tim
AD7AN
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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 interface

2014-10-26 Thread Walter Underwood
There is a difference between obeying the law and enforcing the law. We all 
have an obligation to obey the law. We might not have a right enforce it.

Think about someone driving 55 mph in the fast lane because they want to 
enforce the law. This is not a perfect analogy because there are are also laws 
about letting faster traffic pass, but it is a useful thought experiment.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/

On Oct 26, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 Jim,
 
 I agree and disagree.
 
 vendors who steal designs ought to be condemned. Behringer established a 
 reputation for doing that a decade or so ago, and the pro audio community 
 condemned them (as did at least one court). 
 Yes they should be condemned and punished.
 Those who buy cheap stuff from unknown vendors should not be surprised when 
 it turns out to be stolen or junk. Elecraft sells USB to serial interface 
 cables of known good quality. The real stuff usually does cost more than 
 junk. 
 Punishing unknowing customers -- and most will not know they bought items 
 with these problems, since vendors of good repute occasionally make mistakes 
 and most of us cannot track the source of each chip in a product -- is just 
 plain wrong-headed of FTDI. May they suffer the consequences to their 
 reputation.
 
 73, Phil W7OX
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[Elecraft] Want KX3

2014-10-26 Thread Kyle N4NSS via Elecraft


My friend Ray N4EAT wants a KX3.  727-345-0711 or  n4...@yahoo.com 
73---
Kyle N4NSS
Enjoy the Magic of HF Radio
It's just not a hobby, it's an adventure.
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Re: [Elecraft] Now which mic can I use.

2014-10-26 Thread Timothy Gordish
Hmmm….

For my operating needs I think I will just get the mike from Elecraft.  I would 
interested in knowing if anyone else uses the Heil headset with any luck.

I am looking forward to using my Bencher Hexkey to send PSK.  That sounds like 
a real hoot.

 On Oct 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 HI Tim:
 
 I'm sure you could get at least one of those mics to work, with appropriate 
 connector.  I didn't realize that Heil had a crystal element in one of their 
 units... I thought they were dynamic.  In any event, you likely can treat it 
 as dynamic (no DC bias needed).  The Yaesu mic may not have the proper 
 pin-out, but it would work if re-wired.  And the netbook headset might work, 
 too, but you would have to use the XMIT button on the front panel or VOX... 
 (or wire up a PTT gizmo).
 
 And, if all else fails, work a little CW, RTTY, or PSK31 with the KX3 while 
 you wait for a Elecraft mic to arrive.  :)
 
 FWIW, I ordered the mic with my KX3... and added other items (paddle, filter, 
 ATU) afterward.  BTW... dollar for dollar, the ATU is a great option to 
 have... it's a superb tuner.  If I had to pick just one option to have, the 
 ATU would be it.
 
 73 de Ray
 K2ULR
 KX3 #211
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Now which mic can I use.

2014-10-26 Thread W2BLC
Take a look at the last paragraph of the following: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft%40mailman.qth.net/msg155203.html


I am still happy with the mod I made and use the mic daily - always 
getting great reports.


Bill W2BLC K-Line :)
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Re: [Elecraft] Now which mic can I use.

2014-10-26 Thread Phil Wheeler
I think that's a wise choice, Tim.  If you look 
back into older reflector messages some have used 
the mic-earphone combos successfully (e.g., the 
Yamaha CM500) successfully. But getting the PTT 
set up takes some fiddling and with the Elecraft 
KX3 mic you're ready to go out of the box.


Phil W7OX

On 10/26/14 4:38 PM, Timothy Gordish wrote:

Hmmm….

For my operating needs I think I will just get the mike from Elecraft.  I would 
interested in knowing if anyone else uses the Heil headset with any luck.

I am looking forward to using my Bencher Hexkey to send PSK.  That sounds like 
a real hoot.


On Oct 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net wrote:

HI Tim:

I'm sure you could get at least one of those mics to work, with appropriate 
connector.  I didn't realize that Heil had a crystal element in one of their 
units... I thought they were dynamic.  In any event, you likely can treat it as 
dynamic (no DC bias needed).  The Yaesu mic may not have the proper pin-out, 
but it would work if re-wired.  And the netbook headset might work, too, but 
you would have to use the XMIT button on the front panel or VOX... (or wire up 
a PTT gizmo).

And, if all else fails, work a little CW, RTTY, or PSK31 with the KX3 while you 
wait for a Elecraft mic to arrive.  :)

FWIW, I ordered the mic with my KX3... and added other items (paddle, filter, 
ATU) afterward.  BTW... dollar for dollar, the ATU is a great option to have... 
it's a superb tuner.  If I had to pick just one option to have, the ATU would 
be it.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


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Re: [Elecraft] Now which mic can I use.

2014-10-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Tim,

You can use many headsets and microphones with the KX3 - *IF* you are 
willing to build an adapter.
I have my homebrew adapter for the CM500 headset that works just fine, 
but if you are not able/willing to build your own adapter, order the 
Elecraft MH3 microphone - it works just fine.


Computer type microphones and headsets can be made to work, but because 
the tip and ring are connected together, there is some special 
considerations to be had when choosing the bias - they work OK with bias 
turned off, but then will be using the source for digital voltage in the 
K3 to bias the microphone which can cause noise in the signal.  While it 
will work, a proper adapter will provide better quality results.  That 
is why I built the adapter for my CM500.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/26/2014 5:14 PM, Timothy Gordish wrote:

I have several microphones on hand and wondering if any will work with my soon 
to be order KX3.

My preference is a Heil Pro-Set Plus which has two crystal elements and a phase 
reverse switch.  By far the most comfortable headset I have ever use.  Can I 
use these with an appropriate adapter?

Then I have a Yaesu HT speaker mic with the correct 4 conductor connector used 
with a VX-5.

Then I have a headset with the same connector which I used with a HP netbook.  
Cheep but sufficient.

Will any of these work, or should I just order the Elecraft hand mike?




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[Elecraft] FS: K2/10 - price reduction

2014-10-26 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Group,

My colleague agreed to further reduce the price to USD900 inclusive of shipping 
by air parcel post to major cities.

73

Johnny VR2XMC
 


 寄件人︰ Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk
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傳送日期︰ 2014年10月26日 (週日) 9:44 PM
主題︰ FS: K2/10
  


Hello Elecrafters,

A local ham, who does not know much English, needs to sell his K2 s/n 42xx to 
raise fund due to family issues.  This K2 was built by me and consists of:

K2 basic HF transceiver kit
KSB2 SSB module
KNB2 noise blanker
KAT2 antenna tuning unit
KDSP2 dsp unit
KBT2 - battery bracket (without battery)
K160RX - 160m + 2nd RX ant

Total current price = USD1520 + shipping

I am selling the K2 on behalf of the local ham.  The price is USD1000 including 
shipping by air parcel post to major countries and cites.  Payment can be done 
by paypal and wire transfers.  We can share the fees 50/50.

The rig has been little used and in non-smoking envirnoment.  Photos are 
available upon request.  If interested or ask questions, please contact me 
off-the-list.

73

Johnny VR2XMC
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