Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Vic Rosenthal
I never, ever use LINK. I use diversity often. I like the beta because it 
enables me to use the SUB button to toggle diversity, thus freeing up one of 
the programmable function keys for something else. I found the long hold 
unusable.

Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO 

> On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:30 AM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
> 
> Leave LINK as it is please.
> 
> I wonder what the majority of k3 owners think?
> 
> Gary
> Vk1ZZ
> K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
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[Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread P.J.Hicks
Other than an excuse to build something there might be another way. I haven't 
used one on my K3 but I do use one on my KX3. 
I have a Genovation model 684 serial programmable keypad that has 24 keys. One 
of those is used as a shift key so I have access to 46 macros at the touch of a 
button. Each macro space will hold approx. 180 characters so there is plenty of 
room for elaborate macros. Programming is a snap with the graphical interface 
supplied as is a cable. Cost was about $90.00 as I recall. There is a model 
with 35 keys. 
  
Might be the answer to your needs. 
  
PJH, N7PXY 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: best roofing filter on RTTY

2015-02-15 Thread David Cole
Hi,
I ordered and use the 400 for RTTY, I suspect the 250 is a bit to
narrow.
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On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 22:02 -0500, Dick via Elecraft wrote:
>  Hi Guys,
>  
> I'd appreciate your thoughts on the best roofing filter: 250hz  vs. 400hz, 
> for RTTY contest conditions.
>  
> While I really like the K3 on RTTY, I believe improvement  can be made to 
> my K3 RTTY reception.  Some contesters have  told me that they use the 250hz 
> roofing filter exclusively when operating  RTTY contests.  Since the actual 
> bandwidth of the 250hz roffer  filter is close to 370hz, and RTTY signals  
> are typically about 370hz wide, then the 250hz roofer along with a 400  or 
> 500hz DSP setting should be close to ideal when maximum  selectivity is 
> needed.  However, on both of  my K3's, when I switch from the 400hz roofer to 
> the 
> 250hz roofer, the  RTTY signal is decoded a lot less often, about 25% less 
> often.   It doesn't seem like the 400hz roofer should decode 25% more often 
> than the  250hz roofer.  (but perhaps that's normal?)  
>  
> 
> Perhaps there is a receiver setting change I  can make to the K3 that will 
> improve RTTY decoding when using the 250hz  roofer?  I've tried various 
> shift settings when the 250hz roofer  is engaged and sometimes it improves 
> RTTY 
> reception, but not  consistantly.   Perhaps there's a setting change I  can 
> make to MMTTY?  
> By the way, I'm using  both MMTTY and 2Tone software's for decoding RTTY, 
> with basically the same  results when the 250hz roofer is engaged.  
> 
>  
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>  
> 73,
> Dick- K9OM
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware updates under Linux/ARM?

2015-02-15 Thread Jussi Eloranta

On 02/15/2015 09:19 PM, David Fleming via Elecraft wrote:

Let me try that again with fewer typos. Sometimes my typing outruns my brain.
It should be possible. I'm not sure how well a Qemu x86 VM would perform on a 
mini ARM rig like a Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone. Qemu can only run on one core. 
That is, it can emulate multiple CPUs, but it does this in a single thread, 
IIRC. And I suspect getting it up and running would be a challenge.  A better 
option might be Exagear Desktop. It is like Qemu but much faster. Like 4x 
faster. But it is not free ($30). Exagear Desktop on a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B 
should run 32-bit Linux x86 applications nicely (like the Elecraft Utilities). 
I figure Exagear is worth the money just for the performance advantage. It 
could be an awesome little system for around $75 (if you already have a HDMI 
monitor and a keyboard). I've been seriously considering ordering one just to 
play with.


I just tried to boot 32bit intel fedora 21 live image under ARM qemu (on 
banana pi). This is REALLY slow and even speeding up by a factor of 4 is 
not going to help much. I did not have enough patience to get the whole 
thing to boot up to the desktop, so I concluded that this will not work 
in practice.


It shouldn't be that difficult to cross-compile the K3 utility for ARM 
(unless they are using some strange development tools that don't support 
this). Since everything else works now, I will go the ARM way with my 
station. If I need to update the K3 firmware, I will visit someone with 
a PC. Hopefully Linux/ARM will be supported in the future.


Jussi (AA6KJ)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware updates under Linux/ARM?

2015-02-15 Thread David Fleming via Elecraft
Let me try that again with fewer typos. Sometimes my typing outruns my brain.
It should be possible. I'm not sure how well a Qemu x86 VM would perform on a 
mini ARM rig like a Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone. Qemu can only run on one core. 
That is, it can emulate multiple CPUs, but it does this in a single thread, 
IIRC. And I suspect getting it up and running would be a challenge.  A better 
option might be Exagear Desktop. It is like Qemu but much faster. Like 4x 
faster. But it is not free ($30). Exagear Desktop on a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B 
should run 32-bit Linux x86 applications nicely (like the Elecraft Utilities). 
I figure Exagear is worth the money just for the performance advantage. It 
could be an awesome little system for around $75 (if you already have a HDMI 
monitor and a keyboard). I've been seriously considering ordering one just to 
play with.

David, W4SMT

-
  
This is just a thought, but it may be possible to use Qemu to create an
i386 virtual machine and install a minimal desktop distro that you can
use the Elecraft utilities with.  I did nearly the same thing here using
VirtualBox on my amd64 (x86_64) desktop machine running Debian.  The VM
is running Debian Stable with a lightweight desktop environment and it
works just fine the few times I need it.

73, Nate, N0NB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: best roofing filter on RTTY

2015-02-15 Thread Jim Rhodes
I have always been happy with my 400's. There seems to be  very little
bandbass not filled by the signal. Although  many folks seem to like the
250's I don't have any so I use the 400's on what CW I do too.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware updates under Linux/ARM?

2015-02-15 Thread David Fleming via Elecraft

It should be possible. I'm not sure how well a Qemu x86 VM would perform on a 
mini AIM rig like a Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone. Qemu can only run on one core. 
That is, it can emulate multiple CPUs, but it does this in a single thread, 
IIRC. And I suspect getting it up and running would be a challenge.  A better 
option might be Exagear Desktop. It is like Qemu but much faster. Like 4x 
faster. But it is not free ($30). Exagear Desktop on a Raspi 2 Model B should 
run 32-bit Linux x86 applications nicely (like the Elecraft Utilities). I 
figure Exagear is worth the money just for the performance advantage. It could 
be an awesome little system for around $75 (if you already have a HDMI monitor 
and a keyboard). I've been seriously considering ordering one just to play with.
David, W4SMT
  From: Nate Bargmann 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware updates under Linux/ARM?
   
This is just a thought, but it may be possible to use Qemu to create an
i386 virtual machine and install a minimal desktop distro that you can
use the Elecraft utilities with.  I did nearly the same thing here using
VirtualBox on my amd64 (x86_64) desktop machine running Debian.  The VM
is running Debian Stable with a lightweight desktop environment and it
works just fine the few times I need it.

73, Nate, N0NB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Don Wilhelm

I am not Joe, but I can answer your question.

In diversity mode, the K3 operates just like a single receiver as far as 
the controls are concerned (except for the audio effects attributed to 
diversity).  In other words, if you are operating SPLIT, you would tune 
to the DX station with VFO A and transmit on VFO B.  To listen to the 
pileup (on your TX frequency VFO B) you would hold the REV button to 
listen to the pileup as long as you hold the button, but if you wanted 
to not hold the button and switch to hear the pileup, the A/B button can 
be used to switch VFOs until you wanted to switch back (with the A/B 
button).


Since you have both the mainRX and the subRX, it makes more sense to use 
the subRX in its normal mode where you set SPLIT on and listen to the DX 
on the subRX while transmitting on the mainRX frequency (the subRX 
frequency does not have transmit capability).  There are some ways to 
reverse this, but I will not go into details, this is the 'fundamentals' 
of split operation.


For linked VFOs, imagine you want to work DX operating with a fixed 2 
kHz split while the DX station is changing his TX frequencies while 
maintaining the 2 kHz split - that does not happen very often (maybe never).
You can set SPLIT on and separate the VFOs by 2 kHz then invoke LINK.  
The VFOs will always be 2 kHz apart.


I don't think that situation occurs frequently.  The only remote 
occasion I can foresee is for the QRP Foxhunts, but the Foxes rarely 
will operate SPLIT.


Normally, the DX station stays on the same frequency and you would want 
to leave the RX VFO tuned to his frequency while you would want the TX 
VFO to tune to either the last station worked or a clear frequency 
within the pileup.  The current TX VFO is displayed in the K3 or KX3 
display by an arrow.  Pay attention to that arrow lest the "up cops" 
become irritated with your transmissions.


IMHO, the changes made in 5.10 simplify the use of the SUB button. No 
more short hold of the button to link the VFOs and no long hold to 
enable diversity.
How many times have we seen posts to this reflector saying that the VFOs 
track each other.  This is a result of the difference between a long 
hold and an extra long hold of the SUB button.

Relegating the linked VFOs to a programmable function is a good idea IMHO.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2015 9:15 PM, Tom Blahovici wrote:

Hi Joe,
I guess there is some confusion then as to the function of Link.
Myself,  I thought it was solely there for diversity mode.
So,  how else would one use the Link function? What is its purpose?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Gary Smith
I use Diversity and I use Lock. 

With the Rx antenna and the Tx on the two different receivers and 
both of them locked, I find I copy stations sometimes better this way 
than with diversity. There's a slight attenuation with diversity and 
not so with the main & sub linked. It depends on the individual 
signal for me to know when to use the main Rx alone, Link, or 
Diversity. Each one of them has their own benefits.

73,

Gary KA1J


> Hi Joe, 
> I guess there is some confusion then as to the function of Link. 
> Myself,  I thought it was solely there for diversity mode. 
> So,  how else would one use the Link function? What is its purpose? 
> Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


On 2015-02-15 10:19 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Relegating the linked VFOs to a programmable function is a good idea
> IMHO.

My point all along ... it's a real PITA to go through LINK every time
I want to select diversity.

However, I would make one concession ... since diversity requires the
KRX3, if the KRX3 is not installed then allow a one second hold of
the SUB button to select LINK.  Otherwise, LINK is simply an annoyance.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Tom Blahovici
OK, 
Thanks for the explanations. Very clear. 
Tom

On Feb 15, 2015 10:19 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>
> I am not Joe, but I can answer your question. 
>
> In diversity mode, the K3 operates just like a single receiver as far as 
> the controls are concerned (except for the audio effects attributed to 
> diversity).  In other words, if you are operating SPLIT, you would tune 
> to the DX station with VFO A and transmit on VFO B.  To listen to the 
> pileup (on your TX frequency VFO B) you would hold the REV button to 
> listen to the pileup as long as you hold the button, but if you wanted 
> to not hold the button and switch to hear the pileup, the A/B button can 
> be used to switch VFOs until you wanted to switch back (with the A/B 
> button). 
>
> Since you have both the mainRX and the subRX, it makes more sense to use 
> the subRX in its normal mode where you set SPLIT on and listen to the DX 
> on the subRX while transmitting on the mainRX frequency (the subRX 
> frequency does not have transmit capability).  There are some ways to 
> reverse this, but I will not go into details, this is the 'fundamentals' 
> of split operation. 
>
> For linked VFOs, imagine you want to work DX operating with a fixed 2 
> kHz split while the DX station is changing his TX frequencies while 
> maintaining the 2 kHz split - that does not happen very often (maybe never). 
> You can set SPLIT on and separate the VFOs by 2 kHz then invoke LINK.  
> The VFOs will always be 2 kHz apart. 
>
> I don't think that situation occurs frequently.  The only remote 
> occasion I can foresee is for the QRP Foxhunts, but the Foxes rarely 
> will operate SPLIT. 
>
> Normally, the DX station stays on the same frequency and you would want 
> to leave the RX VFO tuned to his frequency while you would want the TX 
> VFO to tune to either the last station worked or a clear frequency 
> within the pileup.  The current TX VFO is displayed in the K3 or KX3 
> display by an arrow.  Pay attention to that arrow lest the "up cops" 
> become irritated with your transmissions. 
>
> IMHO, the changes made in 5.10 simplify the use of the SUB button. No 
> more short hold of the button to link the VFOs and no long hold to 
> enable diversity. 
> How many times have we seen posts to this reflector saying that the VFOs 
> track each other.  This is a result of the difference between a long 
> hold and an extra long hold of the SUB button. 
> Relegating the linked VFOs to a programmable function is a good idea IMHO. 
>
> 73, 
> Don W3FPR 
>
> On 2/15/2015 9:15 PM, Tom Blahovici wrote: 
> > Hi Joe, 
> > I guess there is some confusion then as to the function of Link. 
> > Myself,  I thought it was solely there for diversity mode. 
> > So,  how else would one use the Link function? What is its purpose? 
> > Thanks 
> > 
>
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment Designator in Subject

2015-02-15 Thread Fred Jensen

Folks,

This comes up periodically [technical term meaning every now and then on 
a sort of regular basis].  Long threads on the list start and, if you 
have been away from home and the list for a bit, the "long" part is in 
the list of messages to read.


Generally standard practice on the list, since there are now so many 
Elecraft products has been to put the main product designator in the 
subject.  That means, if you are posting about a KX3 thing, put "KX3" 
somewhere in the subject -- doesn't really matter where.  Likewise if 
it's "PX3" ... and you probably get the idea here.  Many of us filter 
the email list by Elecraft product, so a couple of keystrokes will help 
a lot.


Subjects sometime change in a thread, this is a live list with real 
people, and that shouldn't surprise anyone.  If you change the subject, 
and it is no longer relevant to the original Elecraft product, please 
remove that designation.


I'm a math grad, engineer in life, and I almost failed Econ 101.  I 
don't understand business and commerce but I am astounded at the 
business model Elecraft has built, and this list is part of it.  We can 
all do our part to make it most usable for everyone.  Just tell us what 
you're going to talk about before you talk about it. :-)


73,

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Re: [Elecraft] FTP Server

2015-02-15 Thread d...@lightstream.net
John, It's working here.

73, Dale
WA8SRA

> I just tried to log on to the Elecraft FTP server with the latest PX3 &
> KX3
> loaders and received a message that indicates that is not available.
> Am I doing something wrong or is it down?
>
> John K7JLT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Doug Person via Elecraft
This would be quite an interesting Arduino project.  You could use a 
couple of serial chips - one to receive from the computer, the other to 
transmit to the K3/KX3.  Normally incoming traffic is just redirected 
from input to output.  When a button is pushed, the macro is just passed 
to the output.  Add a 2x16 LCD display and you could manage groups of 
macros that you could scroll through.  Lots of possibilities for an 
interesting project.


73, Doug -- K0DXV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Link uses both VFO's, with VFO A controlling main RX and VFO B
controlling sub RX. Diversity uses only VFO A on *both* main RX and
sub RX.

Link memorizes the difference between VFO A and VFO B and maintains
VFO B at that difference while VFO A is being tuned. If you do A>B
before link, it will still be two synthesizers that are not locked,
just have the same current input parameters. In my case when I do this
I rarely hear the band noise spreading out into the band noise "sound
stage" needed for digging out weak discreet CW signals.

Diversity is a phase lock between the two RX using the same set of
frequency generating sources for both RX. This always produces the
band noise sound stage.

Note that the sound stage is not something generated in the K3. That
is done in our minds by the same mechanism that allows us to pick out
a single voice in a crowded noisy cafeteria. The band noise is spread
out around the "audio horizon" or "sound stage" in my "mind's ear". A
discrete signal is in one place on the sound stage. My mind easily
picks the discrete sound out of the spread-around noise.

This is very much the same thing as listening to a stereo recording of
an orchestra that begins with audience buzz, which is all over the
audio horizon in my mind's ear.  When the music begins I hear the
violins to the left, though spread out a bit. I hear the tuba at a
specific spot on the right.

Once a K3 diversity RX operator has learned to use "sound stage"
diversity, it is easily an S unit advantage on RX for a station at or
in the noise that you can't see on the S meter.

For me diversity is always on 160 through 40. Anything that craps
diversity, for me throws away an S unit.

If you are not getting the sound stage trying to use diversity, you
really are not getting the benefit, and have some fun ahead of you
when you do.

73, Guy K2AV

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> Hi Joe,
> I guess there is some confusion then as to the function of Link.
> Myself,  I thought it was solely there for diversity mode.
> So,  how else would one use the Link function? What is its purpose?
> Thanks
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[Elecraft] R&R the KRX3

2015-02-15 Thread Dauer, Edward
Really.  So then, removing and reinstalling the KRX3, if that proves
necessary, should be done while listening to Berlioz¹ Symphonie
Fantastique?  Or, if it goes badly, to Schubert¹s Unfinished Symphony?

Either way, I¹ve ordered my pair of KSYN3As.  I¹ll post the tale.

Cheers,

Ted, KN1CBR

>
>
>
>  From: Wayne Burdick 
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
>   
>It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3
>module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the
>latest Tom Petty album blasting away.
>
>Wayne
>N6KR
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware updates under Linux/ARM?

2015-02-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I used to use Virtual Box to build VMs for task specific machines.
I'm considering going back to Linux and doing that again.


  From: Nate Bargmann 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware updates under Linux/ARM?
   
This is just a thought, but it may be possible to use Qemu to create an
i386 virtual machine and install a minimal desktop distro that you can
use the Elecraft utilities with.  I did nearly the same thing here using
VirtualBox on my amd64 (x86_64) desktop machine running Debian.  The VM
is running Debian Stable with a lightweight desktop environment and it
works just fine the few times I need it.

73, Nate, N0NB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Gary Gregory
I have LINK in use with a 5kc difference between vfo A and vfo B and i am
constantly tuning around looking for dxpeditions who usually run split.
It means for me a quick tap and i am split "up 5" in ssb. I then fine tune
when they are calling "up 5-10" etc.
Taking it away is simply not fair.
I do not have the 2nd rcvr and i am not interested in diversity.
I dont give a hoot if i am the only one using LINK, the fact remains i do
and i feel i have a right to keep on using it.Captains Call

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 16/02/2015 12:16 PM, "Tom Blahovici"  wrote:

> Hi Joe,
> I guess there is some confusion then as to the function of Link.
> Myself,  I thought it was solely there for diversity mode.
> So,  how else would one use the Link function? What is its purpose?
> Thanks
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[Elecraft] K3: best roofing filter on RTTY

2015-02-15 Thread Dick via Elecraft
 
Hi Guys,
 
I'd appreciate your thoughts on the best roofing filter: 250hz  vs. 400hz, 
for RTTY contest conditions.
 
While I really like the K3 on RTTY, I believe improvement  can be made to 
my K3 RTTY reception.  Some contesters have  told me that they use the 250hz 
roofing filter exclusively when operating  RTTY contests.  Since the actual 
bandwidth of the 250hz roffer  filter is close to 370hz, and RTTY signals  
are typically about 370hz wide, then the 250hz roofer along with a 400  or 
500hz DSP setting should be close to ideal when maximum  selectivity is 
needed.  However, on both of  my K3's, when I switch from the 400hz roofer to 
the 
250hz roofer, the  RTTY signal is decoded a lot less often, about 25% less 
often.   It doesn't seem like the 400hz roofer should decode 25% more often 
than the  250hz roofer.  (but perhaps that's normal?)  
 
 
Perhaps there is a receiver setting change I  can make to the K3 that will 
improve RTTY decoding when using the 250hz  roofer?  I've tried various 
shift settings when the 250hz roofer  is engaged and sometimes it improves RTTY 
reception, but not  consistantly.   Perhaps there's a setting change I  can 
make to MMTTY?  
By the way, I'm using  both MMTTY and 2Tone software's for decoding RTTY, 
with basically the same  results when the 250hz roofer is engaged.  

 
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
 
73,
Dick- K9OM
 
 


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Re: [Elecraft] "Pig knob" thoughts

2015-02-15 Thread Fred Jensen
I got the Pigknob for a totally different reason than the buttons and 
macros ... my available space is inherently right-handed [built-in desk] 
and I am left-handed.  My KPA500 is too heavy for the simple two-shelf 
rack I have so the K3 is directly above it and on the right.  Old 
shoulder injuries complain when I sit and tune the K3 with elbow on desk 
and hand raised.


Now, Pigknob is on the left of the laptop, next to the paddle, and my 
left arm rests on the desk while tuning the K3 and no pain.  It took 
awhile but I finally figured out a combination of K3 and Pigknob tuning 
rates that works ... PK normally tunes at 10 Hz, pressing the knob gives 
me 50 Hz.  The K3 choices [FINE/COARSE] tune faster for large QSY's.  It 
has really improved my operating enjoyment and I love it.


As for the buttons, one sets split up 5, and one undoes it.  I have six 
blank ones yet to fill.  I also haven't filled all the programmable 
buttons on my P3.  Apparently my creativity index is fairly low.


I heard rumors about an upcoming Pigpad with programmable buttons, and 
like all males of *any* age immediately thought, "Oh -- New Toy!" 
Realistically, I'm not sure what I'd do with it.  My K-Line does what I 
want my radio to do, it does it cleanly and doesn't cause problems for 
nearby hams and, after a little learning, I know how to make it do that.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 2/15/2015 11:45 AM, W2BLC wrote:

I have a Pigknob and find it is most useful. There are 8 buttons and a
VFO type control. The great part - is no endless arguing on this
reflector about what should be on the box - the user programs each
button and the VFO control it to suit his personal needs. No beating
features into the ground. No over engineering of air castles. Windbag
experts can desist. Dang, I like simple things that just plain work.


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[Elecraft] FTP Server

2015-02-15 Thread John Hendricks
I just tried to log on to the Elecraft FTP server with the latest PX3 & KX3
loaders and received a message that indicates that is not available.
Am I doing something wrong or is it down?

John K7JLT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Tom Blahovici
Hi Joe, 
I guess there is some confusion then as to the function of Link. 
Myself,  I thought it was solely there for diversity mode. 
So,  how else would one use the Link function? What is its purpose? 
Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Do I have to get a cat?

73, Guy.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L  wrote:
> I tried the cat method. He objected to the ground probe. When my arms heal, 
> I'll try with a clip lead.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Walter Underwood  wrote:
>>
>> With no cat, I would recommend Sleater-Kinney.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
>>
>>> And those with no cat?:-)
>>>
>>> On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
 But what about us old Head bangers?




  From: Wayne Burdick 
 To: Elecraft Reflector 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
   It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the 
 KRX3 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the 
 latest Tom Petty album blasting away.

 Wayne
 N6KR


 On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  wrote:

> I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
> bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
> the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
> the KRX3 is in place.
>
> 73,
>
>  ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
>> I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
>> removing the KRX3
>> 73, Ken K3IU
>> 
>> On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>>> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>>> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>>> the
>>> synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the 
>>> K3
>>> - success came on about the 12th try.
>>>
>>> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>>> photos in
>>> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>>> which
>>> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
>>> we confirm whether R&R is required?  Message below says it is.
>>>
>>> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>>> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>>
>>>
>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>>
>>>
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 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
 From: Richard Thorpe 
 To: Elecraft List 
 Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
 Message-ID: <92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
 unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .

 R Thorpe K6CG

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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 - odd 'missing' signal

2015-02-15 Thread Chris Thompson
It's an artifact of the architecture of the radio - the "Zero-hz crossover".

You can move it by changing the menu item "RX SHFT" from "Nor" to "8.0".
This is a per-band setting.

Be aware that changing "RX SHFT" prevents using the Dual-Watch receiver, and
takes the Roofing Filter out of play (if installed).

Another method to move the artifact when working CW is to use CW Rev. This
will shift the artifact to the other side of your VFO A cursor.

73,
Chris K4HC

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:23:16 -0500 (EST)
From: "d...@lightstream.net" 
To: "David Orman" 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 - odd 'missing' signal
Message-ID:
<64786.71.74.118.201.1424046196.squir...@mail.expedient.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

I have noticed this null as well. In SSB mode, the null is right at the
carrier frequency. In CW mode, the null is offset from the carrier
frequency by the amount of the sidetone pitch. Engaging ALT switches the
null to the other side of the carrier, again by the amount of the sidetone
pitch.

I don't recall seeing this on earlier versions of the firmware (though
that doesn't mean it wasn't there)

Firmware versions here are:

PX3
Firmware version: 01.16

KX3:
uC: 02.30
dsP: 01.32

73, Dale
WA8SRA




> I've noticed on various modes/combinations of spans, I show some what look
> like null regions. Sometimes it's right where I'm tuned, sometimes it's
> offset. In this picture, I am tuned to 14.055.050, in CW mode, span is 2,
> and there is a deep null area centered somewhere around 14.056.05.
>
> In some modes, this is troublesome, especially when it's right on the
> cursor where I am tuned. I must be doing something wrong, so would
> appreciate any feedback you can give me regarding this / how to fix it.
>
> Here's an image showing what I am talking about:
> http://ormandj.corenode.com/images/radio/elecraft/px3-null.jpg
>
> Thank you
> David


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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Richard Gillingham

Here in South Florida, atomic clocks will not sync it all. 73,
 Gil W1RG

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® 3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message From: Ken G Kopp 
 Date:02/15/2015  1:25 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT"  
Cc: Elecraft Reflector , 
k...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip 

Given the tiny size of "atomic clock" /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and KX3
and make the clock actually usable.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote:

> In which radio?
>
> On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:
>
>> Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
>> adjust method for what we have?
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Jim KG0KP
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[Elecraft] RX SHFT=8.0 I.F. Image (16 kHz) Nulling

2015-02-15 Thread David Orman
Hi,

I've been performing all of the "All-Band Receive Opposite Sideband and
I.F. Image Nulling" steps without issue using my PX3 (and AA-54) as a
signal generator. I'm at the last section, "RX SHFT=8.0 I.F. Image (16 kHz)
Nulling", and am having trouble. Following the directions, and setting my
KX3 16KHz up from the signal source:

7. Optimize RX SHFT=8.0 I.F. image gain and phase settings as follows: a.
Set both the signal source and KX3 to the target band (starting with 160
m). Recall that the VFO should be set 16 kHz higher than the signal source.
Make sure you’re in CW mode. (Note: You can change bands and modes from
within the RXSBNUL menu entry.) You should hear a strong signal, and see an
Smeter reading of between S9 and S9+30 dB. If not, adjust the preamp
setting or the RF source level.

This step, I do _not_ hear a strong signal, I hear no signal at all. If I
turn on RIT to -1.1, I hear a strong signal (looking at the next step.)

What am I doing wrong/missing?

Thank you,
David
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


> Skillful use of diversity reception will enable you to pick up the
> odds even with simple antennae.

Diversity is entirely different than LINK.  Diversity as engaged by
a one second HOLD of the SUB button in FW 5.10 (and a two second hold
in prior firmware versions) uses the same synthesizer for both
receivers so they are phase locked.  LINK as engaged by a one second
HOLD of the SUB button in prior versions of the software only slaves
the two VFOs with a constant offset which means the two receivers will
vary randomly in phase causing signals to fade in and out as the
receivers vary from in-phase to out-of-phase and back.

FW 5.10 simply moves true diversity to the one second hold of position
of the SUB button - as it should be - instead of requiring a two second
hold and relegates the inferior LINK to a programmable function.

> During APDXC 2012 in Icom HQ Osaka, I spoke to Mr. Inoue JA3FA that I
> did not understand why IC7800 did not have the function of LINK for
> both VFOA & B so that I could use the dual receivers for diversity
> reception.

The 7800 can not phase lock the two receivers.  Their dual receive
system is not capable of true diversity operation even if the receivers
are tuned to the same frequency (as they can be with software like CI-V
Commander - part of the DXLab Suite of software).

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-02-15 7:51 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:

Hello Arie,
I agree with you 'LINK' should not be abandoned.  Please excuse my language, I 
would consider the idea of abandoning the 'LINK' is stupid.
During APDXC 2012 in Icom HQ Osaka, I spoke to Mr. Inoue JA3FA that I did not 
understand why IC7800 did not have the function of LINK for both VFOA & B so 
that I could use the dual receivers for diversity reception.  I also mentioned that 
their competitor K3 had that function which I often used.
Skillful use of diversity reception will enable you to pick up the odds even 
with simple antennae.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
寄件人︰ Arie Kleingeld PA3A 
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  主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

Tony

LINK ties both VFO's to the mail freq dial en keeps them insync when you
turn the dial knob.
So both receivers keep working on the same freq.

What I often use i diversity listening so with two receivers and two
antennas on the samen freq.
Diversity puts the main RX audio on the left ear of the headset, and the
Sub on the right ear. That's the normal situation.
In my case, the F9-F12 buttons in N1MM contain commands to the K3 that
switch the audio to my liking (that can  also be done in the Config, but
that takes too much time during QSO) This way I can switch listening
from diversity (listen both MainRX and SubRX at same time) to only main
RX (main RX audio on both ears)  or only sub RX (Sub RX audio on both
ears) depending on where the signal is best.
The commands to do this are in the programmers manual of the K3. It's
really fun to control some beautiful K3 features from the keyboard like
this.

73
Arie PA3A






N2TK, Tony schreef op 15-2-2015 om 16:38:

Hi Arie,
I am not sure I understand what LINK does to help when both receivers are on
the same freq. What does F9-F12 below do to help?
Tnx
N2TK, Tony

.

- F9 = listen A-B
- F10 = listen A-A
- F11 = listen B-B
- F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B and LINK
the VFO's.




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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Morrow
> I DO consider asking for an accurate clock in a ham radio transceiver a 
> 'childish request'...

and

> Elecraft, please do not pay any attention to these childish request 
...

We have some riding their high horses here. :-)

Radio clocks that synch to LF or GPS signals seem to me gross overkill.

How about a plain clock such as found in the last three $15 Casio watches I've 
purchased at Walmart...all of which gain less than 0.2 seconds per day, on or 
off wrist?  Is something like *that* too much to ask from a ham radio internal 
RT clock? Button cell backup should always be provided as well.

Mike / KK5F



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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Richard Solomon

It escapes me why you need an accurate clock in your rig. You can sync your
computer to WWV, from that the time in your log is determined.

What else is a clock good for ??

Besides, unless it's locked to GPS, it will show the wrong time, no 
matter how

good people say it is.

73, Dick, W1KSZ


On 2/15/2015 5:53 PM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:

Ray I agree with you!
For those who insist on having an accurate working clock. Please also insist on it going 
" Tic Toc "
Why are we sweating the small stuff? Times like these are when I truly believe 
that Wayne has us spoiled.

73 Milverton / W9MMS.

   From: Ray Sills 
  To: Elecraft Reflector 
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

Certainly, having an accurate clock inside the rig would be handy,

especially for those who use manual logging.  Even though wristwatches
with WWVB receivers can be had fairly inexpensively, I'm sure it would
be more costly for Elecraft to add it to their rigs.  But, if it's
available as an option, then those who want it, can buy it.

Me?  I just use the clock on my cell phone.  And, it's a smart phone,
and I have a logging program I can use.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



On Feb 15, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:


Given the tiny size of "atomic clock" /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3
and KX3
and make the clock actually usable.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote:


In which radio?

On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:


Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep
time.  An
adjust method for what we have?


Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware updates under Linux/ARM?

2015-02-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
This is just a thought, but it may be possible to use Qemu to create an
i386 virtual machine and install a minimal desktop distro that you can
use the Elecraft utilities with.  I did nearly the same thing here using
VirtualBox on my amd64 (x86_64) desktop machine running Debian.  The VM
is running Debian Stable with a lightweight desktop environment and it
works just fine the few times I need it.

73, Nate, N0NB

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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft
Ray I agree with you! 
For those who insist on having an accurate working clock. Please also insist on 
it going " Tic Toc " 
Why are we sweating the small stuff? Times like these are when I truly believe 
that Wayne has us spoiled. 

73 Milverton / W9MMS. 

  From: Ray Sills 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip
   
Certainly, having an accurate clock inside the rig would be handy,  
especially for those who use manual logging.  Even though wristwatches  
with WWVB receivers can be had fairly inexpensively, I'm sure it would  
be more costly for Elecraft to add it to their rigs.  But, if it's  
available as an option, then those who want it, can buy it.

Me?  I just use the clock on my cell phone.  And, it's a smart phone,  
and I have a logging program I can use.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



On Feb 15, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

> Given the tiny size of "atomic clock" /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
> watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3  
> and KX3
> and make the clock actually usable.
>
> 73
>
> Ken - K0PP
> On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <
> k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote:
>
>> In which radio?
>>
>> On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep  
>>> time.  An
>>> adjust method for what we have?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Jim KG0KP
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[Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Arie,
I agree with you 'LINK' should not be abandoned.  Please excuse my language, I 
would consider the idea of abandoning the 'LINK' is stupid.
During APDXC 2012 in Icom HQ Osaka, I spoke to Mr. Inoue JA3FA that I did not 
understand why IC7800 did not have the function of LINK for both VFOA & B so 
that I could use the dual receivers for diversity reception.  I also mentioned 
that their competitor K3 had that function which I often used.
Skillful use of diversity reception will enable you to pick up the odds even 
with simple antennae.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
   寄件人︰ Arie Kleingeld PA3A 
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 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK
   
Tony

LINK ties both VFO's to the mail freq dial en keeps them insync when you 
turn the dial knob.
So both receivers keep working on the same freq.

What I often use i diversity listening so with two receivers and two 
antennas on the samen freq.
Diversity puts the main RX audio on the left ear of the headset, and the 
Sub on the right ear. That's the normal situation.
In my case, the F9-F12 buttons in N1MM contain commands to the K3 that 
switch the audio to my liking (that can  also be done in the Config, but 
that takes too much time during QSO) This way I can switch listening 
from diversity (listen both MainRX and SubRX at same time) to only main 
RX (main RX audio on both ears)  or only sub RX (Sub RX audio on both 
ears) depending on where the signal is best.
The commands to do this are in the programmers manual of the K3. It's 
really fun to control some beautiful K3 features from the keyboard like 
this.

73
Arie PA3A






N2TK, Tony schreef op 15-2-2015 om 16:38:
> Hi Arie,
> I am not sure I understand what LINK does to help when both receivers are on
> the same freq. What does F9-F12 below do to help?
> Tnx
> N2TK, Tony
.
> - F9 = listen A-B
> - F10 = listen A-A
> - F11 = listen B-B
> - F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B and LINK
> the VFO's.
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread David Cole
I would second the request to leave LINK in as well...  Please!
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On Mon, 2015-02-16 at 08:30 +1000, Gary Gregory wrote:
> Leave LINK as it is please.
> 
> I wonder what the majority of k3 owners think?
> 
> Gary
> Vk1ZZ
> K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
> On 16/02/2015 5:51 AM, "Pierfrancesco Caci"  wrote:
> 
> > > "brian" == brian   writes:
> >
> >
> > brian> Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
> >
> > I do :)
> > Maybe I should learn to use Norm I/II more, instead.
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[Elecraft] K3 firmware updates under Linux/ARM?

2015-02-15 Thread Jussi Eloranta

Hi,

As the current Linux/Intel desktop at my station decided take its last 
breath, I am exploring the option of replacing it with an ARM based 
system; either Banana Pi (ARM based computer; about $45) or Raspberry 
Pi2 (about the same for $35). I have figured out everything else (dual 
monitor support, USB-RS232, logging programs etc.) but the only missing 
piece is to be able to update the firmware in my K3. The firmware update 
program is available only for Linux/Intel platforms and not for Linux/ARM.


Are there any plans to support Linux/ARM in the future? At this point it 
would be enough for me to hear that such support is planned.


Thanks,

Jussi Eloranta (AA6KJ)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread David Cole
Could you expand a bit on the keypad please?  Like how it connects to
the K3/P3, with SVGA I assume?  I am new enough to the K3 to have never
heard of this.
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On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 21:23 +, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> I'd be interested in seeing what you have done (though I'm setup for the 
> Atmel AVR Line)
> I've been considering taking the easy way out and just getting a Genovation 
> Keypad.
> Thank you
> 


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[Elecraft] Extra keys for the K3 or KX3

2015-02-15 Thread Jan
A number of hams have discussed wanting more programmable buttons on the 
K3 or KX3, or how to implement an external keyboard for these radios.


There is an alternative, free approach, if you use a logging program 
that passes commands to the radio.  I use Logger32, which has something 
called "Radio Control Panel," that shows a small panoramic display of 
the passband, but which also contains software keys (12, 24, or 36).  
Logger32 passes through commands that are shown in the "Elecraft K3 and 
KX3 Programmer's Reference."  For example, to mimic a memory key, the 
following Logger32 code plus K3 code works:


$command FA0001431;$   sends the command FA0001431 to the K3, 
which causes the K3 to go to 14.310 MHz.


The beginning and end $ signs, the semicolon, and the word "command" are 
required by Logger32; the code is specified in the Programmer's Reference.


Here is the code to clear a split:

$command FR0;$   the last character in the programming code is a zero (0).

If you use a logging program that works this way, you need no additional 
hardware and you can get the first button (of 36) programmed in two 
minutes, just to check it out.  FIY, I have a vested interest in 
Logger32--the author gives me 50% of the profit from each sale of the 
program, which is free.  He has not stiffed me yet.


73,
Jan, KX2A




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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Nick Kemp
An Arduino with a GPS could be programmed to update the clock via the 
serial port for those who need perfect time.


Nick
N1KMP


Walter Underwood wrote on 2/15/2015 6:05 PM:

I rarely carry my  computer on the trail, but I do carry my KX3.

It would be nice if the KX3 Utility could trim the clock rate. It can read it 
and set it. If it recorded the last time the clock was set, it could set a 
drift correction, assuming that the clock chip supports that.

wunder
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On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L  wrote:

> I'm still puzzled as to why there's a clock at all. Everything I do that 
requires time is picked up from the computer.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
>>
>> I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of it.  
All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated every 15 minutes 
by NTP.
>>
>> Repeating myself:  I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky 
(repeatable without any user intervention).
>>
>> I operate remotely.  If the power fails, without added hardware (and 
software) the K3 will not power on.  An alarm can be used for this function, but only 
if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when the radio is already on too].
>>
>> If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the power 
comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm time(s).  VERY useful 
function, less down time or needing someone to enter the shack while remote.
>>
>> Can that be put on the list?
>>
>> Rick wa6nhc
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


> Are there any commercial solutions out there?

It looks like the Genovation CP24 would be one commercial solution.
It is programmable ~100 bytes per macro and if one of the keys is
dedicated as a toggle the user can program up to 46 macros (24 normal,
24 alternate or shifted).  Note: the software provides for more than
one shift/toggle key but the keypad has only one LED indicator which
would make it difficult to handle more than two levels of macros with
a toggle - of course more than two levels are available without any
ambiguity using "shift" keys.

The CP24 is available in multiple versions - a serial version that
could probably be connected directly to the K3 for stand alone use
(without computer logging software) and a USB version that could be
used (with port splitting software) in a computer with a logging
program.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-02-15 7:00 PM, Chris Hallinan wrote:

I am also interested in your design.
Are there any commercial solutions out there?

Thanks,

Chris

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 1:44 PM, brian  wrote:

N2TK suggested that I post this.

If anybody wants to try HBing an external "button box" for the K3, I have a
16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
Sits next to my keyboard.

It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.   K3 port
sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.

Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for me
OK.

73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] Still need help with K6XX CW Tuning Indicator on K1

2015-02-15 Thread Don Wilhelm

George,

The sidetone comes into the AF2 (wiper) connection to the AF gain 
control, try there with your 'scope.  You might see it at AF1, but that 
depends on the position of the AF Gain - at normal AF Gain settings it 
may be too small there for the amplitude setting of your 'scope.


As for the K6XX CW indicator functioning - and since you do have a 
'scope - then once you can power up the indicator board, look for an 
audio signal between ground and either side of the capacitor to the left 
of the tuning pot (the cap above the IC).  You should find a sawtooth 
signal there.  If you want to pre-adjust the frequency of the indicator, 
adjust the pot until you have the frequency of that waveform at your 
desired sidetone pitch.  I use a frequency counter, but you can use a 
'scope with some arithmetic based on the horizontal time base setting of 
your 'scope.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2015 5:46 PM, George Averill wrote:

All,

I feel like I’m trying to perform brain surgery with a pocket knife.  All of my 
test equipment is as ancient as I am. HI  Where did all the tubes go?

The first kit didn’t work so I have ordered another one.  That should solve the 
problem if the problem is the IC in the kit.  I will also try to take more time 
soldering the surface mount components this time.

What really puzzles me is that, with the kit out of the circuit, and using a 
scope, I have never been able to pull a 600 Hz  sidetone signal off the side of 
the volume control, but I can off the speaker.  I’m positive that the wire to 
the volume control is OK, and it’s connected to AF1 at the volume control 
coming from the AF Preamp.  It’s also connected as per the instructions that 
came with the kit.




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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Walter Underwood
I rarely carry my  computer on the trail, but I do carry my KX3.

It would be nice if the KX3 Utility could trim the clock rate. It can read it 
and set it. If it recorded the last time the clock was set, it could set a 
drift correction, assuming that the clock chip supports that.

wunder
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On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L  wrote:

> I'm still puzzled as to why there's a clock at all. Everything I do that 
> requires time is picked up from the computer.
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of it.  
>> All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated every 15 
>> minutes by NTP.
>> 
>> Repeating myself:  I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky 
>> (repeatable without any user intervention).
>> 
>> I operate remotely.  If the power fails, without added hardware (and 
>> software) the K3 will not power on.  An alarm can be used for this function, 
>> but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when the radio is 
>> already on too].
>> 
>> If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the power 
>> comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm time(s).  VERY 
>> useful function, less down time or needing someone to enter the shack while 
>> remote.
>> 
>> Can that be put on the list?
>> 
>> Rick wa6nhc
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
I'm still puzzled as to why there's a clock at all. Everything I do that 
requires time is picked up from the computer.

73, Mike NF4L

> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
> 
> I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of it.  
> All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated every 15 
> minutes by NTP.
> 
> Repeating myself:  I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky 
> (repeatable without any user intervention).
> 
> I operate remotely.  If the power fails, without added hardware (and 
> software) the K3 will not power on.  An alarm can be used for this function, 
> but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when the radio is 
> already on too].
> 
> If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the power 
> comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm time(s).  VERY 
> useful function, less down time or needing someone to enter the shack while 
> remote.
> 
> Can that be put on the list?
> 
> Rick wa6nhc
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Chris Hallinan
I am also interested in your design.
Are there any commercial solutions out there?

Thanks,

Chris

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 1:44 PM, brian  wrote:
> N2TK suggested that I post this.
>
> If anybody wants to try HBing an external "button box" for the K3, I have a
> 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
> Sits next to my keyboard.
>
> It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.   K3 port
> sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.
>
> Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.
>
> No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for me
> OK.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
I tried the cat method. He objected to the ground probe. When my arms heal, 
I'll try with a clip lead.

73, Mike NF4L

> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Walter Underwood  wrote:
> 
> With no cat, I would recommend Sleater-Kinney.
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> CM87wj
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> 
> On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
> 
>> And those with no cat?:-)
>> 
>> On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>>> But what about us old Head bangers?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  From: Wayne Burdick 
>>> To: Elecraft Reflector 
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
>>>   It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 
>>> module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the 
>>> latest Tom Petty album blasting away.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  wrote:
>>> 
 I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
 bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
 the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
 the KRX3 is in place.
 
 73,
 
  ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
> I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
> removing the KRX3
> 73, Ken K3IU
> 
> On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>> the
>> synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
>> - success came on about the 12th try.
>> 
>> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>> photos in
>> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>> which
>> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
>> we confirm whether R&R is required?  Message below says it is.
>> 
>> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>> 
>> 
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>> 
>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>>> From: Richard Thorpe 
>>> To: Elecraft List 
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>>> Message-ID: <92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>> 
>>> I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>>> unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .
>>> 
>>> R Thorpe K6CG
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 - odd 'missing' signal

2015-02-15 Thread d...@lightstream.net
I have noticed this null as well. In SSB mode, the null is right at the
carrier frequency. In CW mode, the null is offset from the carrier
frequency by the amount of the sidetone pitch. Engaging ALT switches the
null to the other side of the carrier, again by the amount of the sidetone
pitch.

I don't recall seeing this on earlier versions of the firmware (though
that doesn't mean it wasn't there)

Firmware versions here are:

PX3
Firmware version: 01.16

KX3:
uC: 02.30
dsP: 01.32

73, Dale
WA8SRA




> I've noticed on various modes/combinations of spans, I show some what look
> like null regions. Sometimes it's right where I'm tuned, sometimes it's
> offset. In this picture, I am tuned to 14.055.050, in CW mode, span is 2,
> and there is a deep null area centered somewhere around 14.056.05.
>
> In some modes, this is troublesome, especially when it's right on the
> cursor where I am tuned. I must be doing something wrong, so would
> appreciate any feedback you can give me regarding this / how to fix it.
>
> Here's an image showing what I am talking about:
> http://ormandj.corenode.com/images/radio/elecraft/px3-null.jpg
>
> Thank you
> David


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[Elecraft] FW: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Chester Alderman
Your listed email address does not work.


-Original Message-
From: Chester Alderman [mailto:alderm...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 6:23 PM
To: 'Phil Kane'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Clock chip

I am a retired professional microwave circuit and systems design engineer and I 
DO consider asking for an accurate clock in a ham radio transceiver a 'childish 
request'. You can BUY an atomic clock to hang on your wall for less than $50 or 
you could just look at your PC and if you have it set up correct, see very 
accurate time information. I consider development of transceiver improvements 
MUCH more important than I do having engineers spend putting an accurate clock 
in a good transceiver.  As a communications engineer I understand your 'need' 
for an accurate clock, however I think you are looking for it in a hobby item, 
inappropriate.

73,
Tom - W4BQF
K3-100F s/n 4521 - Alpha 9500 amp - 2 el 40m yagi and 16 el tribander

>From the backwoods of Cecil, Ga. Pop. 253


-Original Message-
From: Phil Kane [mailto:k2...@kanafi.org]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 2:46 PM
To: Chester Alderman
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

On 2/15/2015 11:20 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:

> Elecraft, please do not pay any attention to these childish request 
> and please continue improving the K3 with things like these recent 
> synthesizers!

I for one - a professional communications engineer - do not consider asking for 
a clock chip that keeps accurate time as a "childish request". The opposite - I 
consider it a necessity, and I consider having a clock that does not keep 
accurate time and/or display accurate time of day a detriment.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Jim Wilkie

Just got my K3 couple of weeks ago and love the clock
feature..must admit I miss WWVL..yes I am old..

Jim WY4R

On 2/15/2015 6:37 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:


Probably had a little program space free way back when.
I never use the on-board clock though I occasionally reset it via the K3 
utility.
Perhaps someone could write a little clock set utility that would reset it off 
the PC once a day


   From: Phil Wheeler 
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 5:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

I agree with you, Don re no real use for a clock
in a radio.

OTOH, if there is one -- and there is one in the
K3 -- I'd like it to be at least as accurate as
the $15 watch I have on my wrist :-)

I do wonder why there is one at all.

73, Phil W7OX

On 2/15/15 1:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Phil,

I guess I am one of those don't care types much
of the time :-) .

I have a watch on my wrist - it is used when I
want to know what time it is.
I for one have no use for a clock in a radio.
If I am logging when portable, my watch tells me
all I need to know and does not take up display
space on the radio.
Usually I don't care what time it is unless I
have an appointment - my stomach tells me when
it is time to eat.  I am retired, and the work
that I do is on my own schedule.

I usually know where I am, but if not, I try
first to consult with a map - can't stand those
GPS units that tell you what to do and where to
turn - give me a map where I can see my "to" and
"from" and I can navigate just fine, thank you.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2015 3:04 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:


Only one problem that I can see.  People who
don't know where they are
or what time of day it is are probably not
interested paying money to
find out.

Not so much "People who don't know" as "People
who don't care to know ".
   The reductio-ad-absurdum" is of course the
stopped clock which is
accurate twice a day.

As operators of precision electric equipment
that spews signals into
"the ether" (to use an outdated term :) ) I
feel that we have an
obligation to know stuff like that.


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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Gary Gregory
I use the utility to set the clock and have done this for 7 years.

About 4 times i reckon.:-)

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 16/02/2015 9:37 AM, "Harry Yingst via Elecraft" 
wrote:

>
> Probably had a little program space free way back when.
> I never use the on-board clock though I occasionally reset it via the K3
> utility.
> Perhaps someone could write a little clock set utility that would reset it
> off the PC once a day
>
>
>   From: Phil Wheeler 
>  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 5:33 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip
>
> I agree with you, Don re no real use for a clock
> in a radio.
>
> OTOH, if there is one -- and there is one in the
> K3 -- I'd like it to be at least as accurate as
> the $15 watch I have on my wrist :-)
>
> I do wonder why there is one at all.
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
> On 2/15/15 1:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> > Phil,
> >
> > I guess I am one of those don't care types much
> > of the time :-) .
> >
> > I have a watch on my wrist - it is used when I
> > want to know what time it is.
> > I for one have no use for a clock in a radio.
> > If I am logging when portable, my watch tells me
> > all I need to know and does not take up display
> > space on the radio.
> > Usually I don't care what time it is unless I
> > have an appointment - my stomach tells me when
> > it is time to eat.  I am retired, and the work
> > that I do is on my own schedule.
> >
> > I usually know where I am, but if not, I try
> > first to consult with a map - can't stand those
> > GPS units that tell you what to do and where to
> > turn - give me a map where I can see my "to" and
> > "from" and I can navigate just fine, thank you.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 2/15/2015 3:04 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> >> On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:
> >>
> >>> Only one problem that I can see.  People who
> >>> don't know where they are
> >>> or what time of day it is are probably not
> >>> interested paying money to
> >>> find out.
> >> Not so much "People who don't know" as "People
> >> who don't care to know ".
> >>  The reductio-ad-absurdum" is of course the
> >> stopped clock which is
> >> accurate twice a day.
> >>
> >> As operators of precision electric equipment
> >> that spews signals into
> >> "the ether" (to use an outdated term :) ) I
> >> feel that we have an
> >> obligation to know stuff like that.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft

Probably had a little program space free way back when.
I never use the on-board clock though I occasionally reset it via the K3 
utility.
Perhaps someone could write a little clock set utility that would reset it off 
the PC once a day


  From: Phil Wheeler 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 5:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip
   
I agree with you, Don re no real use for a clock 
in a radio.

OTOH, if there is one -- and there is one in the 
K3 -- I'd like it to be at least as accurate as 
the $15 watch I have on my wrist :-)

I do wonder why there is one at all.

73, Phil W7OX

On 2/15/15 1:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Phil,
>
> I guess I am one of those don't care types much 
> of the time :-) .
>
> I have a watch on my wrist - it is used when I 
> want to know what time it is.
> I for one have no use for a clock in a radio.  
> If I am logging when portable, my watch tells me 
> all I need to know and does not take up display 
> space on the radio.
> Usually I don't care what time it is unless I 
> have an appointment - my stomach tells me when 
> it is time to eat.  I am retired, and the work 
> that I do is on my own schedule.
>
> I usually know where I am, but if not, I try 
> first to consult with a map - can't stand those 
> GPS units that tell you what to do and where to 
> turn - give me a map where I can see my "to" and 
> "from" and I can navigate just fine, thank you.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/15/2015 3:04 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
>> On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:
>>
>>> Only one problem that I can see.  People who 
>>> don't know where they are
>>> or what time of day it is are probably not 
>>> interested paying money to
>>> find out.
>> Not so much "People who don't know" as "People 
>> who don't care to know ".
>>  The reductio-ad-absurdum" is of course the 
>> stopped clock which is
>> accurate twice a day.
>>
>> As operators of precision electric equipment 
>> that spews signals into
>> "the ether" (to use an outdated term :) ) I 
>> feel that we have an
>> obligation to know stuff like that.

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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Rick WA6NHC
I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of 
it.  All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated 
every 15 minutes by NTP.


Repeating myself:  I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky 
(repeatable without any user intervention).


I operate remotely.  If the power fails, without added hardware (and 
software) the K3 will not power on.  An alarm can be used for this 
function, but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when 
the radio is already on too].


If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the 
power comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm 
time(s).  VERY useful function, less down time or needing someone to 
enter the shack while remote.


Can that be put on the list?

Rick wa6nhc

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


I don't think anyone is talking about getting rid of Diversity - which
is one of the differentiating features of the K3.  What many are saying
- and what Elecraft did in 5.10 - is that removing the second SUB "Hold"
function for the generally inferior "LINK" option is appropriate.

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-02-15 5:56 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

Ed

Your last paragraph, to me, is spot on.

Gary
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On 16/02/2015 8:35 AM, "Edward R Cole"  wrote:


YES - I use XFIL repeatedly to shutdown the IF or restore it to service
when doing eme.  I have DATA-A configured to use  "FL3" which has no filter
installed in order to disconnect the 2nd IF when I am running MAP65. I tap
off the 1st IF into the LP-Pan, to Delta44 soundcard.

Why do I do that?  FL2 is populated with 2.8-KHz filter and it "sucks out
at zero frequency" on the MAP65 band display.  selecting FL3 with XFIL
allows me to have no load from the 2nd IF.  But if I want to check signal
levels with the S-meter I only have to tap XFIL to restore FL2.  I use XFIL
several times an hour on eme.

Regarding use of Diversity - that IS why I bought the KRX3 subreceiver.  I
ALWAYS run Diversity reception when I select the subreceiver because it is
integral to my dual-polarity adaptive receiving system (used on 2m-eme).

I would consider loss of use of Diversity Reception a breach of contract
by Elecraft.  I have over $10k invested with the K3 Diversity Rx as central
feature of the system.  It IS why I bought the K3.


On 2015-02-15 9:55 AM, brian wrote:

Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.

snip==

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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Walter Underwood
With no cat, I would recommend Sleater-Kinney.

wunder
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On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:

> And those with no cat?:-)
> 
> On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> But what about us old Head bangers?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   From: Wayne Burdick 
>>  To: Elecraft Reflector 
>>  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
>>It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 
>> module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest 
>> Tom Petty album blasting away.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
>>> bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
>>> the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
>>> the KRX3 is in place.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>>   ... Joe, W4TV
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
 I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
 removing the KRX3
 73, Ken K3IU
 
 On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
> the
> synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
> - success came on about the 12th try.
> 
> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
> photos in
> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
> which
> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
> we confirm whether R&R is required?  Message below says it is.
> 
> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
> 
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> 
>> --
>> 
>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>> From: Richard Thorpe 
>> To: Elecraft List 
>> Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>> Message-ID: <92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>> unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .
>> 
>> R Thorpe K6CG
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[Elecraft] Subject: Re: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Edward R Cole

I shouldn't comment (but I will):

I don't use the K3 digital clock for logging as I have (too many) 
other clocks set up in the shack.  When I am doing eme I have JT65 
running that tells me accurate time to 10ms from NIST sources via D4 
running on the computer. In fact the time is always running under D4 
on the computer, so any sw taking time from the computer clock is 
likewise accurate.


When I think of it, I update the time using the K3 Utility.

There is much more important sw development for Elecraft to focus on 
(in my opinion - which is never humble ;-))


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Gary Gregory
Ed

Your last paragraph, to me, is spot on.

Gary
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On 16/02/2015 8:35 AM, "Edward R Cole"  wrote:

> YES - I use XFIL repeatedly to shutdown the IF or restore it to service
> when doing eme.  I have DATA-A configured to use  "FL3" which has no filter
> installed in order to disconnect the 2nd IF when I am running MAP65. I tap
> off the 1st IF into the LP-Pan, to Delta44 soundcard.
>
> Why do I do that?  FL2 is populated with 2.8-KHz filter and it "sucks out
> at zero frequency" on the MAP65 band display.  selecting FL3 with XFIL
> allows me to have no load from the 2nd IF.  But if I want to check signal
> levels with the S-meter I only have to tap XFIL to restore FL2.  I use XFIL
> several times an hour on eme.
>
> Regarding use of Diversity - that IS why I bought the KRX3 subreceiver.  I
> ALWAYS run Diversity reception when I select the subreceiver because it is
> integral to my dual-polarity adaptive receiving system (used on 2m-eme).
>
> I would consider loss of use of Diversity Reception a breach of contract
> by Elecraft.  I have over $10k invested with the K3 Diversity Rx as central
> feature of the system.  It IS why I bought the K3.
>
>
> On 2015-02-15 9:55 AM, brian wrote:
> > Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
> > Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.
> snip==
>
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[Elecraft] Still need help with K6XX CW Tuning Indicator on K1

2015-02-15 Thread George Averill
All,

I feel like I’m trying to perform brain surgery with a pocket knife.  All of my 
test equipment is as ancient as I am. HI  Where did all the tubes go?

The first kit didn’t work so I have ordered another one.  That should solve the 
problem if the problem is the IC in the kit.  I will also try to take more time 
soldering the surface mount components this time.

What really puzzles me is that, with the kit out of the circuit, and using a 
scope, I have never been able to pull a 600 Hz  sidetone signal off the side of 
the volume control, but I can off the speaker.  I’m positive that the wire to 
the volume control is OK, and it’s connected to AF1 at the volume control 
coming from the AF Preamp.  It’s also connected as per the instructions that 
came with the kit.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

73, George, K4EOR

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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Phil Wheeler

And those with no cat?:-)

On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

But what about us old Head bangers?




   From: Wayne Burdick 
  To: Elecraft Reflector 
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom Petty album blasting away.


Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  wrote:


I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
the KRX3 is in place.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:

I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
removing the KRX3
73, Ken K3IU

On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:

First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
the
synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
- success came on about the 12th try.

My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
photos in
the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
which
it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
we confirm whether R&R is required?  Message below says it is.

If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?


Ted, KN1CBR



--

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
From: Richard Thorpe 
To: Elecraft List 
Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
Message-ID: <92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .

R Thorpe K6CG

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Edward R Cole
YES - I use XFIL repeatedly to shutdown the IF or restore it to 
service when doing eme.  I have DATA-A configured to use  "FL3" which 
has no filter installed in order to disconnect the 2nd IF when I am 
running MAP65. I tap off the 1st IF into the LP-Pan, to Delta44 soundcard.


Why do I do that?  FL2 is populated with 2.8-KHz filter and it "sucks 
out at zero frequency" on the MAP65 band display.  selecting FL3 with 
XFIL allows me to have no load from the 2nd IF.  But if I want to 
check signal levels with the S-meter I only have to tap XFIL to 
restore FL2.  I use XFIL several times an hour on eme.


Regarding use of Diversity - that IS why I bought the KRX3 
subreceiver.  I ALWAYS run Diversity reception when I select the 
subreceiver because it is integral to my dual-polarity adaptive 
receiving system (used on 2m-eme).


I would consider loss of use of Diversity Reception a breach of 
contract by Elecraft.  I have over $10k invested with the K3 
Diversity Rx as central feature of the system.  It IS why I bought the K3.



On 2015-02-15 9:55 AM, brian wrote:
> Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
> Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.
snip==

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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Phil Wheeler
I agree with you, Don re no real use for a clock 
in a radio.


OTOH, if there is one -- and there is one in the 
K3 -- I'd like it to be at least as accurate as 
the $15 watch I have on my wrist :-)


I do wonder why there is one at all.

73, Phil W7OX

On 2/15/15 1:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Phil,

I guess I am one of those don't care types much 
of the time :-) .


I have a watch on my wrist - it is used when I 
want to know what time it is.
I for one have no use for a clock in a radio.  
If I am logging when portable, my watch tells me 
all I need to know and does not take up display 
space on the radio.
Usually I don't care what time it is unless I 
have an appointment - my stomach tells me when 
it is time to eat.  I am retired, and the work 
that I do is on my own schedule.


I usually know where I am, but if not, I try 
first to consult with a map - can't stand those 
GPS units that tell you what to do and where to 
turn - give me a map where I can see my "to" and 
"from" and I can navigate just fine, thank you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2015 3:04 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:

Only one problem that I can see.  People who 
don't know where they are
or what time of day it is are probably not 
interested paying money to

find out.
Not so much "People who don't know" as "People 
who don't care to know ".
  The reductio-ad-absurdum" is of course the 
stopped clock which is

accurate twice a day.

As operators of precision electric equipment 
that spews signals into
"the ether" (to use an outdated term :) ) I 
feel that we have an

obligation to know stuff like that.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Ian White
It is probably true that Elecraft can never remove any  existing feature
without upsetting some existing users... so the way forward would be to
add the new alternatives as *options*.

The point about options is: nobody is compelled to choose them! The
factory defaults would usually need to stay as they are, because of the
existing labels on the buttons and the front panel. So anyone who
doesn't want those new options would be able to carry on exactly as
before.

Those who do want to select new options would have to accept that the
existing 'tap' and 'hold' labels would no longer be quite accurate. For
me, that would be no big deal - my first priority is always what the
K3's controls *do*. But others will have different priorities, and that
is precisely why new features need to be offered as *options*. 


But having said that...

>> Question: does anybody really use XFIL?

Why does the K3 have an XFIL control at all? It seems like a carry-over
from the K2, where the selectivity came from the crystal filters and the
XFIL button was the primary bandwidth control. But the bandwidth of the
K3 has always been defined primarily by the DSP so XFIL has never made
sense to me. 

However, AB9CA makes a very valid point that the WIDTH control requires
excessive cranking at larger bandwidths. If the WIDTH, HIGH and LOW
functions could be improved by making their rates of change proportional
to the bandwidth, then there would be even less need or justification
for using XFIL.


>> Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.
W4TV replied:
>
>No, retaining the dual context CW filter and assigning APF to XFIL
>and Dual PB to the current DUAL PB function makes more sense.
>
Agreed, that definitely isn't the right place to relocate the Diversity
function. There are already three existing functions competing for that
button, without adding another. I would support an option to replace
XFIL with APF as the main ('tap') function - which would then correspond
more closely to the KX3 - and to bring back DUAL PB for 'hold'. 

>Leave DIV as SUB Hold as it is in 5.10 and make LINK available
>as a programmable function (LN0;/LN1;).   Having LINK as SUB
>HOLD and DIV as an extra long hold is/was very difficult from
>an ergonomic perspective.

Agreed in every detail. 
 

Finally, on the subject of an external button-box, I don't ever want to
see external boxes and macros being used as band-aids for existing
controls that don't function as effectively as they could. Much more can
still be done to improve the ergonomic 'rough edges' of the existing
front panel.


73 from Ian GM3SEK


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Gary Gregory
Leave LINK as it is please.

I wonder what the majority of k3 owners think?

Gary
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On 16/02/2015 5:51 AM, "Pierfrancesco Caci"  wrote:

> > "brian" == brian   writes:
>
>
> brian> Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
>
> I do :)
> Maybe I should learn to use Norm I/II more, instead.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft

Genovation, provides the software to program them.
They are basically a fully programmable keypad that you would just write a 
macro for each key.

I plan on buying on at some point but just gave other projects that have taken 
priority.
The keyboard should just plug into the K3, But I want to experiment with "Y"ing 
it with the PC(Perhaps with Diodes to have the keypad not interfere with the 
computer).
I have installed them before in commercial settings and they seem to work well.






  From: Doug Turnbull 
 To: 'Harry Yingst'  
Cc: Brendan Minish  
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 5:00 PM
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box
   
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this replywith others on the reflector.    I do not need so many buttons but 
could easilyprogram several buttons for the same memory function.     Who 
provides the programmingsoftware?   Do you download to the Keypad via the 
serial port?   Does one write Mac ros for the K3/KX3? Using thestandard 
Elecraft procedure?   I have not done this previously but know Ei6IZwho has and 
could seek advice from Brendan.         I am very likely to give this a try 
andwould like to hear more if it is not too much trouble.   You might as 
mentionedat the start like to share this with our fellows on the reflector.    
Thank youso much for your kind reply.       73 Doug EI2CN   
 

From: Harry Yingst [mailto:hlyin...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 15 February 2015 21:47
To: Doug Turnbull
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 ButtonBox    it'sa serial Keypad, with lots of 
programmable buttons     LookHere http://www.eham.net/articles/32176    From: 
Doug Turnbull < turnb...@net1.ie >
To: ' Harry Yingst '  
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 20154:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 ButtonBox 
Harry,
    Just what does the Genovation Keypad do for you and how does one
interface it to the K3 and then use it?    Can I use it to activatethe DVR
voice and CW messages?    

    It has always been a pain holding my index finger up at an
uncomfortable angle and height to the M1 through M4 buttons.  Then
sometimes in the middle of the pile up my finger slips hitting another
button.  This is one of the weak spots in the K3 design but one which I am
afraid will not be addressed.  It has been brought up before and wellthere
is so much good about the K3 that one feels churlish to complain.

                  73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] OnBehalf Of Harry
Yingst via Elecraft
Sent: 15 February 2015 21:24
To: brian; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

I'd be interested in seeing what you have done (though I'm setup for the
Atmel AVR Line)
I've been considering taking the easy way out and just getting a Genovation
Keypad.
Thank you


      From: brian 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:44 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box
  
N2TK suggested that I post this.

If anybody wants to try HBing an external "button box" for the K3, I 
have a 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
Sits next to my keyboard.

It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.  K3 port 
sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.

Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for 
me OK.

73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Phil Wheeler
Usable only in the part of the world where WWVB is 
receivable.


Phil W7OX

On 2/15/15 10:24 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

Given the tiny size of "atomic clock" /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and KX3
and make the clock actually usable.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote:


In which radio?

On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:


Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
adjust method for what we have?


Thanks, Jim KG0KP


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Joshua Gould
Could something like this be adapted for us KX3 owners as well?

72,
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
EM89pn

KX3# 7465

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 5:09 PM, hsherriff  wrote:

> I would be interested as well
>
> Harlan
> NC3C
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>  Original message From: Harry Yingst via
> Elecraft  Date:02/15/2015  4:23 PM
> (GMT-05:00) To: brian ,
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc:  Subject: Re:
> [Elecraft] K3 Button Box 
> I'd be interested in seeing what you have done (though I'm setup for
> the Atmel AVR Line)
> I've been considering taking the easy way out and just getting a
> Genovation Keypad.
> Thank you
>
>
>   From: brian 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:44 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box
>
> N2TK suggested that I post this.
>
> If anybody wants to try HBing an external "button box" for the K3, I
> have a 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
> Sits next to my keyboard.
>
> It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.  K3 port
> sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.
>
> Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.
>
> No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for
> me OK.
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread hsherriff
I would be interested as well 

Harlan 
NC3C 


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message From: Harry Yingst via 
Elecraft  Date:02/15/2015  4:23 PM  
(GMT-05:00) To: brian , elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Cc:  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box 
I'd be interested in seeing what you have done (though I'm setup for the 
Atmel AVR Line)
I've been considering taking the easy way out and just getting a Genovation 
Keypad.
Thank you


  From: brian 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:44 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box
   
N2TK suggested that I post this.

If anybody wants to try HBing an external "button box" for the K3, I 
have a 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
Sits next to my keyboard.

It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.  K3 port 
sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.

Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for 
me OK.

73 de Brian/K3KO
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[Elecraft] PX3 - odd 'missing' signal

2015-02-15 Thread David Orman
I've noticed on various modes/combinations of spans, I show some what look
like null regions. Sometimes it's right where I'm tuned, sometimes it's
offset. In this picture, I am tuned to 14.055.050, in CW mode, span is 2,
and there is a deep null area centered somewhere around 14.056.05.

In some modes, this is troublesome, especially when it's right on the
cursor where I am tuned. I must be doing something wrong, so would
appreciate any feedback you can give me regarding this / how to fix it.

Here's an image showing what I am talking about:
http://ormandj.corenode.com/images/radio/elecraft/px3-null.jpg

Thank you
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[Elecraft] Adjusting reference frequency some time after tx compensation

2015-02-15 Thread David Orman
Hi,

A while ago (months) I did the extended temperature compensation procedure
using the XG50, which seemed successful. I decided to tune up to 20MHz
recently, and noticed when in CW mode, if I ran spot (manual) I was off, by
a small margin (33Hz). I'm assuming this is normal as time goes on, is this
a correct assumption?

Second question: assuming it is normal, and I should periodically
re-calibrate using the XG50 or a known signal like WWV, is it safe to go to
ref cal in the menu, unlock it, and manually tune/zero beat to adjust the
frequency - without losing the calibration gained from doing the extended
temperature compensation procedure? I'd rather not have to repeat that
process any more than necessary, so I'm hoping the look-up table that
generates is for something like offset based on temperature and so remains
constant, and only the main reference calibration needs changing? I did
this to test, and the menu item is still 'REF*CAL'. Tapping CMP while in
this menu option, I have verified it is set to 'CUSTOM'.

I appreciate any feedback,
David
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
But what about us old Head bangers?




  From: Wayne Burdick 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
   
It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 
module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest 
Tom Petty album blasting away.

Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  wrote:

> 
> I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
> bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
> the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
> the KRX3 is in place.
> 
> 73,
> 
>  ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
>> I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
>> removing the KRX3
>> 73, Ken K3IU
>> 
>> On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>>> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>>> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>>> the
>>> synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
>>> - success came on about the 12th try.
>>> 
>>> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>>> photos in
>>> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>>> which
>>> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
>>> we confirm whether R&R is required?  Message below says it is.
>>> 
>>> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>>> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>> 
>>> 
 --
 
 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
 From: Richard Thorpe 
 To: Elecraft List 
 Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
 Message-ID: <92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
 unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .
 
 R Thorpe K6CG
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Don Wilhelm

Phil,

I guess I am one of those don't care types much of the time :-) .

I have a watch on my wrist - it is used when I want to know what time it 
is.
I for one have no use for a clock in a radio.  If I am logging when 
portable, my watch tells me all I need to know and does not take up 
display space on the radio.
Usually I don't care what time it is unless I have an appointment - my 
stomach tells me when it is time to eat.  I am retired, and the work 
that I do is on my own schedule.


I usually know where I am, but if not, I try first to consult with a map 
- can't stand those GPS units that tell you what to do and where to turn 
- give me a map where I can see my "to" and "from" and I can navigate 
just fine, thank you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2015 3:04 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:


Only one problem that I can see.  People who don't know where they are
or what time of day it is are probably not interested paying money to
find out.

Not so much "People who don't know" as "People who don't care to know ".
  The reductio-ad-absurdum" is of course the stopped clock which is
accurate twice a day.

As operators of precision electric equipment that spews signals into
"the ether" (to use an outdated term :) ) I feel that we have an
obligation to know stuff like that.




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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Wayne Burdick
It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 
module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest 
Tom Petty album blasting away.

Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  wrote:

> 
> I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
> bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
> the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
> the KRX3 is in place.
> 
> 73,
> 
>  ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
>> I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
>> removing the KRX3
>> 73, Ken K3IU
>> 
>> On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>>> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>>> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>>> the
>>> synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
>>> - success came on about the 12th try.
>>> 
>>> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>>> photos in
>>> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>>> which
>>> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
>>> we confirm whether R&R is required?  Message below says it is.
>>> 
>>> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>>> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>> 
>>> 
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 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
 From: Richard Thorpe 
 To: Elecraft List 
 Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
 Message-ID: <92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
 unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .
 
 R Thorpe K6CG
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I'd be interested in seeing what you have done (though I'm setup for the Atmel 
AVR Line)
I've been considering taking the easy way out and just getting a Genovation 
Keypad.
Thank you


  From: brian 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:44 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box
   
N2TK suggested that I post this.

If anybody wants to try HBing an external "button box" for the K3, I 
have a 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
Sits next to my keyboard.

It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.  K3 port 
sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.

Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for 
me OK.

73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread jim



B I N G O  !!




-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David
Pratt
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:28 AM
To: David Ferrington, M0XDF
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box


On 15 Feb 2015 19:18, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" 
wrote:
>
> Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers? 

Upgrade to a PC. That would solve a lot of compatability problems.

73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Phil Kane
On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:

> Only one problem that I can see.  People who don't know where they are
> or what time of day it is are probably not interested paying money to
> find out.

Not so much "People who don't know" as "People who don't care to know ".
 The reductio-ad-absurdum" is of course the stopped clock which is
accurate twice a day.

As operators of precision electric equipment that spews signals into
"the ether" (to use an outdated term :) ) I feel that we have an
obligation to know stuff like that.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Phil Hystad
Ditto.

There would be a great advancement in civilization if vendors of various 
electronic gear
can focus on the purpose of the gear rather than adding a silly clock unless 
the electronic
gear is indeed a clock.

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Feb 15, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Chester Alderman  
> wrote:
> 
> Elecraft, please do not pay any attention to these childish request and
> please continue improving the K3 with things like these recent synthesizers!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom - W4BQF
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
> Miller
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:53 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Clock chip
> 
> Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
> adjust method for what we have?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, Jim KG0KP
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[Elecraft] K3 upgrade advise

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Weir
Soon I will be placing an order for the KSYN3AUPG board for my K3 and at the 
same time since the rig will be apart try to order any other upgrade mod's for  
the rig. One mod I was looking at was I have REV C DSP board and see that I can 
add K3DSPLPF board. Does this board offer any other enhancement other than a 
LPF to roll off the RX audio above 4 KHz?  The Serial number of my K3 is 3619 
it no longer has the Sub receiver and is the low power model at 10 watts is 
there any other upgrades I should consider? figure may as well order them all 
at once save on shipping. 
Thanks in advance 
Mike Weir
VE3WDM

  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
> "brian" == brian   writes:


brian> Question: does anybody really use XFIL?

I do :)
Maybe I should learn to use Norm I/II more, instead. 

-- 
Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread bs usb
Only one problem that I can see.  People who don't know where they are 
or what time of day it is are probably not interested paying money to 
find out.


dyarnes wrote:
Seems to me the answer may be simpler than trying to use VLF 
transmissions for U.S. or U.K. atomic clocks.  I think that technology 
is almost "old hat" these days.


I have a "golf" watch that gives me yardages on just about any golf 
course in the world, and it is all coordinated by GPS satellites.  It 
starts operating in just a few seconds from the time you turn it 
on--incredibly faster than the first GPS unit I owned.  The time 
function is instantaneous, and I assume that comes from the GPS 
satellites as well.  So, couldn’t something along this line be 
incorporated in a ham rig?  Heck!  It could even probably give you 
your current grid square!  Maybe this sound like it could be "pricey", 
but I suspect the electronic "guts" of a GPS unit are becoming pretty 
inexpensive to create.  The incredible stuff I'm getting out of China 
these days, and for "nickels and dimes", makes me think this is 
doable, and at a reasonable price!


Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] "Pig knob" thoughts

2015-02-15 Thread W2BLC
I have a Pigknob and find it is most useful. There are 8 buttons and a 
VFO type control. The great part - is no endless arguing on this 
reflector about what should be on the box - the user programs each 
button and the VFO control it to suit his personal needs. No beating 
features into the ground. No over engineering of air castles. Windbag 
experts can desist. Dang, I like simple things that just plain work.


Viva the Pigknob!!!

Bill W2BLC K-line
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
More to the point, this is a religious argument, and religion is far 
outside the list charter.


On 2/15/2015 11:38 AM, bs usb wrote:

David,

There are people who would argue that going to a PC is anything but an 
upgrade.


I use both.

My MacBook drive has multiple partitions and runs multiple operating 
systems, one of which is MSWindows


David Pratt wrote:
On 15 Feb 2015 19:18, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" 
 wrote:

Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers?

Upgrade to a PC. That would solve a lot of compatability problems.

73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear OMs,
 I think it was meant to be a "tongue in cheek" remark.   This could
however lead to mucho overreaction.
  73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bs usb
Sent: 15 February 2015 19:38
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

David,

There are people who would argue that going to a PC is anything but an 
upgrade.

I use both.

My MacBook drive has multiple partitions and runs multiple operating 
systems, one of which is MSWindows

David Pratt wrote:
> On 15 Feb 2015 19:18, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" 
wrote:
>> Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers?
> Upgrade to a PC. That would solve a lot of compatability problems.
>
> 73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread dyarnes
Seems to me the answer may be simpler than trying to use VLF transmissions 
for U.S. or U.K. atomic clocks.  I think that technology is almost "old hat" 
these days.


I have a "golf" watch that gives me yardages on just about any golf course 
in the world, and it is all coordinated by GPS satellites.  It starts 
operating in just a few seconds from the time you turn it on--incredibly 
faster than the first GPS unit I owned.  The time function is instantaneous, 
and I assume that comes from the GPS satellites as well.  So, couldn’t 
something along this line be incorporated in a ham rig?  Heck!  It could 
even probably give you your current grid square!  Maybe this sound like it 
could be "pricey", but I suspect the electronic "guts" of a GPS unit are 
becoming pretty inexpensive to create.  The incredible stuff I'm getting out 
of China these days, and for "nickels and dimes", makes me think this is 
doable, and at a reasonable price!


Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread bs usb

David,

There are people who would argue that going to a PC is anything but an 
upgrade.


I use both.

My MacBook drive has multiple partitions and runs multiple operating 
systems, one of which is MSWindows


David Pratt wrote:

On 15 Feb 2015 19:18, "David Ferrington, M0XDF"  wrote:

Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers?

Upgrade to a PC. That would solve a lot of compatability problems.

73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Wes (N7WS)

I have a "smart" phone too (iPhone)

Unfortunately, it's not smart enough to realize that most of AZ is smart enough 
to know that "Daylight Savings Time" doesn't really save any daylight, so we 
don't mess with our clocks twice a year. So I either have to turn off automatic 
updates and have it drift off a few minutes from correct time or have it 
"perfectly" off by an hour.


Wes  N7WS

On 2/15/2015 11:52 AM, Ray Sills wrote:


Me?  I just use the clock on my cell phone.  And, it's a smart phone, and I 
have a logging program I can use.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread David Pratt

On 15 Feb 2015 19:18, "David Ferrington, M0XDF"  wrote:
>
> Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers? 

Upgrade to a PC. That would solve a lot of compatability problems.

73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Chester Alderman
Elecraft, please do not pay any attention to these childish request and
please continue improving the K3 with things like these recent synthesizers!

Thanks,

Tom - W4BQF


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Miller
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:53 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Clock chip

Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
adjust method for what we have?

 

Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers?
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)

We're here to put a dent in the universe. -Steve Jobs, entrepreneur and 
inventor (1955-2011)

> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:44, brian  wrote:
> 
> N2TK suggested that I post this.
> 
> If anybody wants to try HBing an external "button box" for the K3, I have a 
> 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
> Sits next to my keyboard.
> 
> It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.   K3 port 
> sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.
> 
> Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.
> 
> No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for me OK.
> 
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
The original poster didn't tell us which radio, so I'm not sure how much 
I care.


The clock in my KX3 works fine, and I can use the KX3 receiver to tune 
in WWV (or any other time service around the world).


The typical battery powered "atomic clock" only checks the time service 
every 4 to 6 hours.  Depending on where you live (including the RF 
environment) it may only sync every couple of days.


GPS will go from off to having the time in a minute or two, and as 
someone else noted, cell phones work well too (the cellular network gets 
time from GPS).


Personally, I use my computer clock, which syncs frequently via NTP.

On 2/15/2015 10:24 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote:


Given the tiny size of "atomic clock" /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist 
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and 
KX3 and make the clock actually usable.


73

Ken - K0PP


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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Rose
Excallent point Dave.  I apologize for my "regional" thinking  ( :-)

73 - Ken
On Feb 15, 2015 11:55 AM, "David Pratt"  wrote:

> That would be no good to me, Ken, WWVB is not receivable in Great
> Britain.  We would need MSF on 60 kHz.  Remember that the KX3 & K3 are
> global transceivers used throughout the world.
>
> 73
>
> David G4DMP
>
> David Pratt on his Asus Nexus 7 tablet.On 15 Feb 2015 18:24, Ken G Kopp <
> kengk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Given the tiny size of "atomic clock" /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
> > watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and
> KX3
> > and make the clock actually usable.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Ken - K0PP
> > On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <
> > k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In which radio?
> > >
> > > On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:
> > >
> > >> Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep
> time.  An
> > >> adjust method for what we have?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Jim KG0KP
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip K3

2015-02-15 Thread Jim Miller
K3. Thanks, Jim

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lynn
W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:17 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

In which radio?

On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:
> Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  
> An adjust method for what we have?
>
>   
>
> Thanks, Jim KG0KP
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Re: [Elecraft] Beta 5r10

2015-02-15 Thread alexandr.kobranov
APF and my 2 cents - I was using predefined NORM II settings for APF, if 
needed.
The problem (my problem) is that I am using 200Hz filter in my S&P operation
but for APF I use 400Hz filter. (it was my chioce - YMMV of course...)
By switching on APF directly by holding XFIL button it will stay on current 
XFIL w/o possibility to have other defined...
So in previous FW version I had three possibilities - standard XFIL, 
"contour" (DUAL PB) or APF (with wider XFIL by switching to NORM II settings
in my case).

What will be nice to switch FINE tuning on if APF activated.

Thanks to Elecraft for keeping K3 better and better :-)

73!
Lexa, ok1dst



-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Mike Harris 
Komu: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Datum: 15. 2. 2015 2:05:45
Předmět: [Elecraft] Beta 5r10

"G'day,

Just installed Beta 5r10. What a dreadful shame that the Dual PB 
"context/focus" mode has been done away with. I used it a lot whilst 
tuning up the band S&P handing out points in CW contests. Nice and 
smooth, easy listening, gently alerting you to the next signal in line. 
The APF sounds ghastly, always seemingly on the edge of ringing.

Backwards step, sorry.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread David Pratt
That would be no good to me, Ken, WWVB is not receivable in Great Britain.  We 
would need MSF on 60 kHz.  Remember that the KX3 & K3 are global transceivers 
used throughout the world.

73

David G4DMP

David Pratt on his Asus Nexus 7 tablet.On 15 Feb 2015 18:24, Ken G Kopp 
 wrote:
>
> Given the tiny size of "atomic clock" /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist 
> watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and KX3 
> and make the clock actually usable. 
>
> 73 
>
> Ken - K0PP 
> On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" < 
> k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote: 
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> > In which radio? 
> > 
> > On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote: 
> > 
> >> Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An 
> >> adjust method for what we have? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Thanks, Jim KG0KP 
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Ray Sills
Certainly, having an accurate clock inside the rig would be handy,  
especially for those who use manual logging.  Even though wristwatches  
with WWVB receivers can be had fairly inexpensively, I'm sure it would  
be more costly for Elecraft to add it to their rigs.  But, if it's  
available as an option, then those who want it, can buy it.


Me?  I just use the clock on my cell phone.  And, it's a smart phone,  
and I have a logging program I can use.


73 de Ray
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On Feb 15, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:


Given the tiny size of "atomic clock" /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3  
and KX3

and make the clock actually usable.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote:


In which radio?

On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep  
time.  An

adjust method for what we have?


Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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[Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread brian

N2TK suggested that I post this.

If anybody wants to try HBing an external "button box" for the K3, I 
have a 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.

Sits next to my keyboard.

It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.   K3 port 
sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.


Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for 
me OK.


73 de Brian/K3KO
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[Elecraft] K3 request - Spot function in RTTY

2015-02-15 Thread Gary Smith
I'm pretty sure I would find a spot function in RTTY as it works in 
the CW mode, very useful.

73,

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Ken G Kopp
Given the tiny size of "atomic clock" /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and KX3
and make the clock actually usable.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote:

> In which radio?
>
> On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:
>
>> Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
>> adjust method for what we have?
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Jim KG0KP
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

In which radio?

On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
adjust method for what we have?

  


Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread John Bastin

On 15 Feb 2015, at 09:55, brian  wrote:
> 
> Question: does anybody really use XFIL?

Yes. I would vote YES for keeping XFIL.

73,


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Re: [Elecraft] My KAT500 seems very sensitive to common mode RFI

2015-02-15 Thread Jack Brindle
The W8AMZ is a 1/4 wave vertical with two radials. This means that all of the 
return currents are expected to go through those two wires. Except there is a 
third that is very appealing to the antenna - the coax shield. You might try 
adding more radials. That will distribute the return current among more 
radials, which will also reduce the return current on the outside of the coax. 
In addition, choking at the feed point is very important, as is choking at the 
shack entry point.

Quarter-wave verticals are very difficult to tame when it comes to return 
currents and coax. It is doable, but patience and lots of experimenting are 
required. The reason you see it with high power is quite simply that there is 
more power and the currents are much higher. Remember, the power is the square 
of the current, so the problem goes up exponentially with power. The KAT500 is 
actually no more sensitive than any other ATU to shield current problems, but 
we ask so much more of it than a 150 watt ATU. Getting rid of the shield 
currents before they get to the KAT500 and making sure the SWR on the antenna 
coax going to the KAT is within proper range is vital to keeping everyone happy.

73,

JackB, W6FB


> On Feb 14, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Jeff Hall  wrote:
> 
> I have several turns of the AC adapter cord through two snap on beads.   I 
> don't have anything on the AUX cables at this time, but that is something I 
> should probably check.   I ordered 6 of the Mix 31 Big Clamp toroids from 
> KF7P.  For the 40m vertical I'll place one choke at the feedpoint and see if 
> the problem is resolved.  If not, I'll place another choke at the KAT500.  If 
> I still have a problem, another choke will be placed at the output of the 
> KPA500.  If that still doesn't work, another choke will be placed at the 
> output of the K3.  Once I have suppressed the common mode RF on the vertical, 
> I'll try replacing the string of ferrite beads on my hex beam's coax with a 
> Big Clamp choke at the KAT500.
> -Jeff W6UX 
> 
> On Saturday, February 14, 2015 6:25 PM, Harry Yingst  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Do you have chokes on the power, AUX, and Serial Cables to the KAT500?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Jeff Hall 
> To: Michael Walker ; Harry Yingst  
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector  
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KAT500 seems very sensitive to common mode RFI
> 
> Thanks everyone for their replies to my problem.  I read Jim Brown's paper 
> this afternoon and have ordered some mix 31 Big Clamps.  I'll try putting one 
> at each end of the 40m coax feedline (RG8X) with the prescribed number of 
> turns.
> -Jeff 
> 
> On Saturday, February 14, 2015 4:22 PM, Michael Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> There are some great articles on common mode chokes
> http://www.yccc.org/Articles/W1HIS/CommonModeChokesW1HIS2006Apr06.pdf
> 
> The other is K9YC's cookbook.
> Since I bought a VNA, I have been able to play with the choking value of some 
> random chokes.  Very interesting.
> Mike va3mw
> 
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> There must be something special about 40 meters and micro-controllers.
> My Aquarium Controller used to do a Reset when I transmitted on 40.The cure 
> for me was to wrap the control cable leads through Some Snap on chokes
> I just installed my KAT500 today and considered taking thepower lead and 
> wrapping it around a snap on choke a few times.
> 
> 
>   From: "Jeff Hall, W6UX" 
>  To: Elecraft Reflector 
>  Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 12:48 PM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] My KAT500 seems very sensitive to common mode RFI
> 
> I have a Hex Beam and a 40m wire vertical w/ two elevated radials.  I have 
> been fighting what appears to be a common mode RFI problem which causes the 
> KAT500 to continuously power cycle as long as the K3 is transmitting.  
> Generally this only occurs when driving my KPA500 amp beyond a certain output 
> level which differs for a given band and frequency.  I am powering the KAT500 
> with its own AC adapter.  The problem can occur in both bypass and auto mode.
> 
> 7-10 ferrite beads on the coax attached to the KAT500 solved the power 
> cycling problem for my hex beam antenna and I successfully operate QRO in 
> bypass mode on all bands and modes.  However the beads did not help with the 
> wire vertical.  I can drive 300w into my dummy load with no ferrite beads on 
> the coax and the KAT500 is fine.
> 
> The SWR is low enough I should be able to use these antennas to run the 
> KAT500 in bypass mode.  If I put it in Auto mode the problem is exacerbated.  
> I can tune the wire vertical just fine with the KAT500 in Auto mode at a 
> tuning level of 25w from the K3.  However, if I try to transmit at 5w or more 
> (SSB for example), the KAT500 starts to power cycle.
> 
> I have no problem using the wire vertical if it is connected directly to the 
> K3's internal ATU.  I observed that in this configuration, I could still trip 

[Elecraft] "Pig knob" thoughts

2015-02-15 Thread Ken G Kopp
If an external "knob and button" box becomes a reality ...

Maybe some wise soul could determine what functions are used by most of us
and the functions wanted by a relative few could be available on the
external device.

73
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[Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Jim Miller
Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
adjust method for what we have?

 

Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] *****POSSIBLE SPAM***** Re: [K3] General coverage hijacks ham band

2015-02-15 Thread Edward R Cole
Never noticed this - probably because I  use memories for selecting 
bands and/or frequencies (M>V).  I did that with my FT-847 and 
repeated it with the K3 and KX3.  I have saved to memory one 
frequency for each mode per band.  e.g. 14020  (50CW), 14070(51PSK), 
14095.6(52WSPR), 14205(53SSB),14292(54SSB), 14303.5 (55SSB), ... 
15000(57WWV),...etc


So if I want to operate a particular band/mode I merely M>V and 
rotate VFO-A to select.  I rarely use the BAND button.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Kenneth Talbott
I can't help but chuckle.  I learned years ago when software base based
products became popular that YOU CAN NEVER REMOVE A FEATURE ONCE IT HAS BEEN
RELEASED.  There is always someone depending upon it.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Arie
Kleingeld PA3A
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 9:48 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Wayne Burdick
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

Wayne,

Please do not take out LINK. I'm using it a lot in contests and in
DXpedition work

Just to give you and others the idea:
With both main and sub RX's on the same freq, mode  and BW  I link them with
LINK.
But here comes 


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