Re: [Elecraft] PX3 noise generated on KX3-2M

[Alan]

I finally got around to checking this.

On 02/23/2016 11:37 AM, Jim Brown wrote:


I've been bugging Wayne about these issues for
more than ten years, and he still hasn't gotten the message. This is a
great example of ignoring what EMC guru Henry Ott calls "the hidden
schematic lurking behind the ground symbol," and which is a primary
cause of EMC failures (RFI, hum, buzz). In the pro audio world, we call
it "the Pin One Problem," whereby cable shields fail to contact the
shielding enclosure at the point of entry, but instead go to the circuit
board, finally reaching the chassis via a path established by the whim
of the PC board layout artist.


It is not a "pin 1" problem. The metal shell of the chassis-mount power 
supply connector is mounted directly to the metal side panel of the PX3 
and the paint is masked around the hole to make sure it makes a good 
connection.


On 02/23/2016 10:26 AM, David Anderson wrote:

> Since I purchased my PX3 I have suffered from radiated noise at 144
> MHz.
...
> I had already checked that the DC Jack was grounded properly to the
> side panel. However what I hadn't appreciated is that the common of
> the PCB is connected to a switch in the Jack and is not directly
> connected to the chassis of the Jack. What was happening was the
> barrel of the plug was connecting to the pole of this switch and the
> PCB common, but only loosely to the chassis of the Jack. Movement of
> the plug sideways with enough pressure did connect the plug better to
> chassis and resulted in the noise going away.

I'm trying to understand that.  The power jack has three pins, the 
connector shell (tied to the printed circuit board ground plane in the 
PX3), the center pin (connected to the +12V input) and a switch.  The 
switch shorts to the connector shell when nothing is plugged in and 
opens when a power plug is inserted.


But the thing is, the switch is not used and that pin is not connected 
to anything inside the PX3.  (The only reason I used a jack with a 
switch was that it was the only suitable chassis-mount type I could 
find.)  Besides, that pin is internally disconnected whenever the plug 
is inserted anyway.


I just confirmed all that by double-checking the PCB artwork and by 
measuring an actual PX3 with an ohmmeter.  If you'd like to check it 
yourself, the three connector contacts are arranged like this:  The 
switch pin is the one on the side of the connector.  The +12V pin is the 
one farthest from the panel.  The shield/ground pin is the one that is 
almost hidden underneath the connector.


> I opened up the back of
> the PX3 and connected the chassis part of the Jack to the PCB common
> side of the jack's switch by soldering a small piece of copper EMI
> tape across the gap. This ensures that the PCB common is stoutly
> connected directly to chassis at the DC Jack.
>
> This has had the desired effect, no more intermittent  increases in
> spurs heard in the receiver as the leads are touched or moved,

I'm not sure from that description exactly what was connected to what so 
it's hard to figure out how that could have affected the noise.  It 
sounds like you probably connected the switch contact to the connector 
shell, but I don't see how that could have affected anything since that 
contact is disconnected whenever a plug is inserted and it's a 
no-connect on the PC board.


You might check to make sure the mounting nut on the power connector is 
good and tight and the connector body is making a solid contact to the 
inside of the side panel.  I'm guessing that's the most likely cause of 
the noise radiation.


Alan N1AL
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Gary]

Terry
Dxlabs meets all your mentioned requirement plus a whole lot more.
I have tried many programs but only Dxlabs has worked for me.
Like this reflector, support is top shelf.
I concur with Jim, k9yc, I like FREE 
73
Gary

-Original Message-
From: "Terry Brown" 
Sent: ‎27/‎02/‎2016 9:31 AM
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

Hello All,

 

I have been using a logging program for many years called LOGic.  I am
currently upgraded to ver. 9 because it had a KX3 interface.  As I have been
using it in the learning mode, I find that the error trapping is not good
and the program constantly crashes when I try to do something the software
does not expect.  It is extremely frustrating to use.

 

I would be interested in changing to another logging/tcvr interfacing
software program.  What has been your experience with these programs and
what do you think are the best one's out there at this time.  I want
something that will look up callsigns as I enter the calls, and it would be
nice to have forms that can be edited and the fields moved around.   Award
tracking is a big part of LOGic, as well as uploading to LOTW from the
program.  It has a lot of features, but it has to be robust and usable, and
this version is not that.

 

Thanks and 73's,

 

Terry Brown, N7TB

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 unable to change passband control shift amount in SSB

[Dave Hachadorian]

Try pushing the buttons on the four controls to the left of the 
main VFO knob, e.g.  CMP/PWR, about 100 times each.  The switches 
on those encoders has been known to stick, and when that happens, 
certain functions become non-responsive.  After you pus those 
four buttons 100 times each, turn the radio off, and then on 
again.


Good luck.  I hope it works for you.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ


-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Schmidt

Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:34 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 unable to change passband control 
shift amount in SSB


Hi, Don,
After talking with Howard at Elecraft Wed AM, I did exactly what 
you

recommend below.
I did the EEINIT, tried several saved configs, but even my 
oldest, which
isn't that old (new computer, didn't bother to copy over the 
older
configs from previous machine), exhibited the same problem. 


I did another EEINIT and started over.
All's good after an intimate afternoon w/ the DL1, XG3, & K3. ;^)

I /still/ don't know how I was able to change the PB shift for 
SSB to

.01 in the first place, though.

Thanks for the guidance.

On 2/26/2016 19:07, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Jeff,

It would appear that something is "stuck".
Do you have a saved configuration file from sometime before 
this problem came up?
If so, try an EEINIT (Reset to Factory Defaults) and then 
restore the configuration file.
The Reset to Factory Defaults will wipe out the calibration and 
configuration data that is particular to your K3.  That is why 
saving a configuration file is important.  K3 Utility makes it 
easy to save and restore a configuration file.
Reloading the firmware will not change the configuration 
settings.


If you do not have a saved configuration file, you can still do 
the EEINIT, but you will have to do all the calibration 
procedures listed in the manual and activate whatever options 
you have installed in the menu.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/23/2016 4:31 PM, Jeff Schmidt wrote:
I can no longer select low cut/high cut (vs. shift/width) in 
LSB/USB.
A little homework reveals that this as a known side effect of 
changing the passband shift from its default.
I'm sure I must have changed the PB CTRL to .01 at some point, 
but I can't seem to change it back; a firmware reload didn't 
help. Moving VFO A while in config:PB CTRL gives "N/A".


Note that this is only manifesting itself on SSB (all other 
modes are set to the default of .05, and selecting hi/lo / 
shift/width works FB).


S/N 7080, old synths
versions before/after firmware reload:
5.38 1.25 2.86 2.86 1.03


--
73,
Jeff KC9WSJ
@ EN52wf

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 unable to change passband control shift amount in SSB

[Jeff Schmidt]

Hi, Don,
After talking with Howard at Elecraft Wed AM, I did exactly what you 
recommend below.
I did the EEINIT, tried several saved configs, but even my oldest, which 
isn't that old (new computer, didn't bother to copy over the older 
configs from previous machine), exhibited the same problem. 

I did another EEINIT and started over.
All's good after an intimate afternoon w/ the DL1, XG3, & K3. ;^)

I /still/ don't know how I was able to change the PB shift for SSB to 
.01 in the first place, though.


Thanks for the guidance.

On 2/26/2016 19:07, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Jeff,

It would appear that something is "stuck".
Do you have a saved configuration file from sometime before this 
problem came up?
If so, try an EEINIT (Reset to Factory Defaults) and then restore the 
configuration file.
The Reset to Factory Defaults will wipe out the calibration and 
configuration data that is particular to your K3.  That is why saving 
a configuration file is important.  K3 Utility makes it easy to save 
and restore a configuration file.

Reloading the firmware will not change the configuration settings.

If you do not have a saved configuration file, you can still do the 
EEINIT, but you will have to do all the calibration procedures listed 
in the manual and activate whatever options you have installed in the 
menu.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/23/2016 4:31 PM, Jeff Schmidt wrote:

I can no longer select low cut/high cut (vs. shift/width) in LSB/USB.
A little homework reveals that this as a known side effect of 
changing the passband shift from its default.
I'm sure I must have changed the PB CTRL to .01 at some point, but I 
can't seem to change it back; a firmware reload didn't help. Moving 
VFO A while in config:PB CTRL gives "N/A".


Note that this is only manifesting itself on SSB (all other modes are 
set to the default of .05, and selecting hi/lo / shift/width works FB).


S/N 7080, old synths
versions before/after firmware reload:
5.38 1.25 2.86 2.86 1.03


--
73,
Jeff KC9WSJ
@ EN52wf

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Re: [Elecraft] Slighty off topic - 80 meter second harmnic how to stop

[Jim Bolit]

I would take an antenna analyzer and sweep the antenna system (coax with
stubs, connectors,  etc.) by connecting the analyzer at the xmitter "end" of
the antenna system.  Disconnect the coax that goes to the amplifier and take
that coax and plug it into the analyzer instead and sweep the antenna system
with start freq of 3.0 MHz and end point of 8 MHz  You should see a "short"
somewhere in the 40 meter band, but my guess is that it will not be where
you want it to be.  IT is important to do this on the antenna *SYSTEM*
(coax, connectors, switches, etc.).

Jim
W6AIM


.
 

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Brown
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 8:42 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slighty off topic - 80 meter second harmnic how to
stop

When I posted on this issue to another list, W3LPL responded that it's
fairly common for harmonics with this sort of characteristic to be generated
in active electronics like switching power supplies.  Sort of identifying
which is the culprit and choking every cable connected to it, there's no
solution.

73, Jim K9YC

On Mon,2/22/2016 8:34 PM, paulb wrote:
> For what ever reason the harmonic is still very present..darn..
> oddly has a rasping note not pure carrier.
>
> A close ham about 400 meters away can also hear the 2nd hamonnic, band 
> pass in or out makes little change.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 unable to change passband control shift amount in SSB

[Don Wilhelm]

Jeff,

It would appear that something is "stuck".
Do you have a saved configuration file from sometime before this problem 
came up?
If so, try an EEINIT (Reset to Factory Defaults) and then restore the 
configuration file.
The Reset to Factory Defaults will wipe out the calibration and 
configuration data that is particular to your K3.  That is why saving a 
configuration file is important.  K3 Utility makes it easy to save and 
restore a configuration file.

Reloading the firmware will not change the configuration settings.

If you do not have a saved configuration file, you can still do the 
EEINIT, but you will have to do all the calibration procedures listed in 
the manual and activate whatever options you have installed in the menu.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/23/2016 4:31 PM, Jeff Schmidt wrote:

I can no longer select low cut/high cut (vs. shift/width) in LSB/USB.
A little homework reveals that this as a known side effect of changing 
the passband shift from its default.
I'm sure I must have changed the PB CTRL to .01 at some point, but I 
can't seem to change it back; a firmware reload didn't help. Moving 
VFO A while in config:PB CTRL gives "N/A".


Note that this is only manifesting itself on SSB (all other modes are 
set to the default of .05, and selecting hi/lo / shift/width works FB).


S/N 7080, old synths
versions before/after firmware reload:
5.38 1.25 2.86 2.86 1.03

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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Kevin Stover]

Ditto.

On 2/26/2016 6:05 PM, Nr4c wrote:

DX LABS SUITE.

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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Jim Brown]

On Fri,2/26/2016 4:05 PM, Nr4c wrote:

DX LABS SUITE.


YES.  Excellent, well supported, and FREE!

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Nr4c]

DX LABS SUITE. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Feb 26, 2016, at 6:30 PM, Terry Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 
> 
> I have been using a logging program for many years called LOGic.  I am
> currently upgraded to ver. 9 because it had a KX3 interface.  As I have been
> using it in the learning mode, I find that the error trapping is not good
> and the program constantly crashes when I try to do something the software
> does not expect.  It is extremely frustrating to use.
> 
> 
> 
> I would be interested in changing to another logging/tcvr interfacing
> software program.  What has been your experience with these programs and
> what do you think are the best one's out there at this time.  I want
> something that will look up callsigns as I enter the calls, and it would be
> nice to have forms that can be edited and the fields moved around.   Award
> tracking is a big part of LOGic, as well as uploading to LOTW from the
> program.  It has a lot of features, but it has to be robust and usable, and
> this version is not that.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks and 73's,
> 
> 
> 
> Terry Brown, N7TB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[Nr4c]

Well, no longer a question. The 5 pole 200 is no longer available. 

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Gary Smith  wrote:
> 
> Interesting timing for this thread. A friend wants to buy my K3 and 
> fit it with the most advantageous filters for his contesting methods.
> 
> I remember when selecting filters back in 2009, the consensus was the 
> 8 pole 250 Hz filter was more desirable than the 5 pole 200 Hz 
> filter. Now its 7 years from back then, I don't know what is the 
> current consensus. I bought the 8 pole 250 for the main & Sub Rx 
> boards.
> 
> Which filter between the 5 pole 200 & 8 pole 250 Hz filter is 
> currently the most desirable for contesting conditions?
> 
> Thanks & 73,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> Quick question - do the 8 pole roofing filters have more attenuation, 
> 
> as a
> general rule, in their passbands than the 5 pole? Long story on how I
> arrived at this question in terms of troubleshooting something I've 
> noticed
> in my K3 and K3S, but I'm just curious if there's supposed to be a
> noticeable difference?
> 
> My assumption is the 8 poles are going to have a little more 
> attenuation
> than the 5's, perhaps by as much as 3 db or more. Is that the case 
> that
> ya'll have noted?
> 
> I've looked through the list archives and haven't found a prior 
> discussion
> of this, so just wondering.
> 
> Thanks es 73,
> LS
> W5QD
> 
> 
> 
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> uation-in-the-passband-tp7614635.html
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Ian Kahn]

Terry,

I've used Ham Radio Deluxe for years and am quite happy with it. It has
most of the features you're looking for (I'm not aware of customizable
forms, but fields can be added/removed/moved in the logger), plus
outstanding rig control, digital mode software in DM780, satellite tracking
(if you ever go that route), and more.

In the interest of full disclosure, I don't have a financial interest in
HRD, but I am one of their evangelists in the Metro Atlanta area. Let me
know if you have any specific questions (off-list, please) and I'll be
happy to answer as best I can.

Thanks and 73,

Ian, KM4IK

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016, 6:32 PM Terry Brown  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
>
>
> I have been using a logging program for many years called LOGic.  I am
> currently upgraded to ver. 9 because it had a KX3 interface.  As I have
> been
> using it in the learning mode, I find that the error trapping is not good
> and the program constantly crashes when I try to do something the software
> does not expect.  It is extremely frustrating to use.
>
>
>
> I would be interested in changing to another logging/tcvr interfacing
> software program.  What has been your experience with these programs and
> what do you think are the best one's out there at this time.  I want
> something that will look up callsigns as I enter the calls, and it would be
> nice to have forms that can be edited and the fields moved around.   Award
> tracking is a big part of LOGic, as well as uploading to LOTW from the
> program.  It has a lot of features, but it has to be robust and usable, and
> this version is not that.
>
>
>
> Thanks and 73's,
>
>
>
> Terry Brown, N7TB
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Terry Brown]

Hello All,

 

I have been using a logging program for many years called LOGic.  I am
currently upgraded to ver. 9 because it had a KX3 interface.  As I have been
using it in the learning mode, I find that the error trapping is not good
and the program constantly crashes when I try to do something the software
does not expect.  It is extremely frustrating to use.

 

I would be interested in changing to another logging/tcvr interfacing
software program.  What has been your experience with these programs and
what do you think are the best one's out there at this time.  I want
something that will look up callsigns as I enter the calls, and it would be
nice to have forms that can be edited and the fields moved around.   Award
tracking is a big part of LOGic, as well as uploading to LOTW from the
program.  It has a lot of features, but it has to be robust and usable, and
this version is not that.

 

Thanks and 73's,

 

Terry Brown, N7TB

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Gary Smith]

As much as I dislike being a "me too" person, Elecraft is to me, the 
epitome of proper product, service and respect. If we could only make
politicians in the same vein.

73,

Gary
KA1J
 
> Thank you Alan!  As always Elecraft is there with the right stuff at
> the right time!  THANKS AGAIN GENTS!!!
> -- 
> 73's, and thanks,
> Dave
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 11:41 -0800, Alan wrote:
> > Yes, the issue is that after the P3 sends the UP7, DN7 command, etc.
> > to 
> > the K3 it doesn't receive the new frequency back from the K3 right
> > away. 
> >   So when the #FXT1 command (go to fixed-tune mode) is executed it
> > is 
> > based on the old K3 frequency, not the new one.
> > 
> > Adding a delay in the Genovation keypad solves the problem because
> > it 
> > gives the K3 time to update the P3 with the new frequency before 
> > executing the #FXT command.
> > 
> > Paul and I have been talking about it and may have come up with a
> > better 
> > way to do this.  Stay tuned.
> > 
> > Alan N1AL
> > 
> > 
> > On 02/26/2016 09:05 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote:
> > > Hi Dave,
> > > 
> > > The P3 does execute the commands one after another.   The problem
> > > is likely
> > > that the K3 commands take a little longer to execute and there is
> > > no waiting
> > > in the P3 for the K3 to change frequency.  In other words, the P3
> > > executes
> > > the serial commands in sequence.  It gets to a K3 command (DN7, UP7
> > > etc) and
> > > simply sends that over to the K3.  It then continues to execute the
> > > commands
> > > in the macro.   Using the P3 and/or K3 utility delivers the same
> > > results as
> > > would any program (Python, etc) that does not query the K3 for a
> > > reply.
> > > 
> > > While adding a delay after the K3 commands may help, there is
> > > probably a
> > > better way to do this.  Let me think about it for a while.
> > > 
> > > Kind regards,
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[Gary Smith]

Interesting timing for this thread. A friend wants to buy my K3 and 
fit it with the most advantageous filters for his contesting methods.

I remember when selecting filters back in 2009, the consensus was the 
8 pole 250 Hz filter was more desirable than the 5 pole 200 Hz 
filter. Now its 7 years from back then, I don't know what is the 
current consensus. I bought the 8 pole 250 for the main & Sub Rx 
boards.

Which filter between the 5 pole 200 & 8 pole 250 Hz filter is 
currently the most desirable for contesting conditions?

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J


Hi all,
Quick question - do the 8 pole roofing filters have more attenuation, 

as a
general rule, in their passbands than the 5 pole? Long story on how I
arrived at this question in terms of troubleshooting something I've 
noticed
in my K3 and K3S, but I'm just curious if there's supposed to be a
noticeable difference?

My assumption is the 8 poles are going to have a little more 
attenuation
than the 5's, perhaps by as much as 3 db or more. Is that the case 
that
ya'll have noted?

I've looked through the list archives and haven't found a prior 
discussion
of this, so just wondering.

Thanks es 73,
LS
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Re: [Elecraft] Y Cable for K3 ACC 15pin connector

[Nr4c]

Elecraft has it. Check order page 

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> On Feb 26, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Dennis Egan  wrote:
> 
> I think someone out there has a source and part number for a compatible
> 15 pin Y-connector.  I need the type where the pins are connected straight
> through.
> 
> Please reply Direct.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Dave Cole]

Thank you Alan!  As always Elecraft is there with the right stuff at
the right time!  THANKS AGAIN GENTS!!!
-- 
73's, and thanks,
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On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 11:41 -0800, Alan wrote:
> Yes, the issue is that after the P3 sends the UP7, DN7 command, etc.
> to 
> the K3 it doesn't receive the new frequency back from the K3 right
> away. 
>   So when the #FXT1 command (go to fixed-tune mode) is executed it
> is 
> based on the old K3 frequency, not the new one.
> 
> Adding a delay in the Genovation keypad solves the problem because
> it 
> gives the K3 time to update the P3 with the new frequency before 
> executing the #FXT command.
> 
> Paul and I have been talking about it and may have come up with a
> better 
> way to do this.  Stay tuned.
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 
> 
> On 02/26/2016 09:05 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> > 
> > The P3 does execute the commands one after another.   The problem
> > is likely
> > that the K3 commands take a little longer to execute and there is
> > no waiting
> > in the P3 for the K3 to change frequency.  In other words, the P3
> > executes
> > the serial commands in sequence.  It gets to a K3 command (DN7, UP7
> > etc) and
> > simply sends that over to the K3.  It then continues to execute the
> > commands
> > in the macro.   Using the P3 and/or K3 utility delivers the same
> > results as
> > would any program (Python, etc) that does not query the K3 for a
> > reply.
> > 
> > While adding a delay after the K3 commands may help, there is
> > probably a
> > better way to do this.  Let me think about it for a while.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
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> > P3-v1-57-SVGA-v1-31-BETA-firmware-available-tp7614603p7614637.html
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

[Terry Schieler]

Jose,

You might also contact a ham radio club or two in your area and see if they 
have a classified section in their newsletters.  Attracting more local interest 
may make a sale quicker and less painful than one involving shipping the gear.  
Just a thought.

Terry, W0FM



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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

Jose,

I have always used KA9FOX's classifieds site. Sold and bought many radios from 
his listings for many years. 100% satisfied.

http://swap.qth.com/index.php

GL Gene, N9TF

K3S 10057
P3



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Rivera
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 6:33 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

I am looking to sell some of my Yaesu Radios in order to purchase a K3s.
What are good reliable places to sell my radios? (FT-950 and FT-857D). I am 
trying to avoid ebay. I live in New York City, Manhattan.

 

Jose

N2LRB

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[Elecraft] K-3/0 mini with N1MM+

[Art via Elecraft]

Hi all,


Just setting up this dandy gizmo. Would someone using N1MM+ to control and send 
CW share set up info?


Thanks.


Art KZ5D
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Dave Cole]

Hi Paul,

Firstly-- thank you for putting this on your radar!  

I will rephrase-- the P3 fails to control the K3 when using some macros
in sequence, due to the P3 failing to implement flow control, and the
P3 overrunning the K3.

End result is the same however-- the P3/K3 cluster fails to execute
some macro strings correctly.  My problem is that I tend to be P3
centric as it is the device sending the macros, hence why I was calling
the P3 as the issue.

Today a solution was offered on the mail list, which allows the
offsetting of the P3 screen, (for pileup use), if one is using the
Genovation pad, or a Python Script.  I will be implementing it later
today via the Genovation, and testing via Python as well. 

I spoke to Alan via email, and he was suggesting a fix, so something
might be in the works already, you may want to check with him!  

I sure hope so!  I don't really want to use up 5 or 6 macro positions
in the P3 unless I have to...

Again, thank you for putting this on your radar Paul!

-- 
73's, and thanks,
Dave

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On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 10:05 -0700, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote:
> Hi Dave, 
> 
> The P3 does execute the commands one after another.   The problem is
> likely
> that the K3 commands take a little longer to execute and there is no
> waiting
> in the P3 for the K3 to change frequency.  In other words, the P3
> executes
> the serial commands in sequence.  It gets to a K3 command (DN7, UP7
> etc) and
> simply sends that over to the K3.  It then continues to execute the
> commands
> in the macro.   Using the P3 and/or K3 utility delivers the same
> results as
> would any program (Python, etc) that does not query the K3 for a
> reply. 
> 
> While adding a delay after the K3 commands may help, there is
> probably a
> better way to do this.  Let me think about it for a while. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Alan]

Yes, the issue is that after the P3 sends the UP7, DN7 command, etc. to 
the K3 it doesn't receive the new frequency back from the K3 right away. 
 So when the #FXT1 command (go to fixed-tune mode) is executed it is 
based on the old K3 frequency, not the new one.


Adding a delay in the Genovation keypad solves the problem because it 
gives the K3 time to update the P3 with the new frequency before 
executing the #FXT command.


Paul and I have been talking about it and may have come up with a better 
way to do this.  Stay tuned.


Alan N1AL


On 02/26/2016 09:05 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote:

Hi Dave,

The P3 does execute the commands one after another.   The problem is likely
that the K3 commands take a little longer to execute and there is no waiting
in the P3 for the K3 to change frequency.  In other words, the P3 executes
the serial commands in sequence.  It gets to a K3 command (DN7, UP7 etc) and
simply sends that over to the K3.  It then continues to execute the commands
in the macro.   Using the P3 and/or K3 utility delivers the same results as
would any program (Python, etc) that does not query the K3 for a reply.

While adding a delay after the K3 commands may help, there is probably a
better way to do this.  Let me think about it for a while.

Kind regards,

Paul






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Re: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

[GRANT YOUNGMAN]

>  Or check if you know your buyer/seller and have trust (or endure 10-20 day 
> wait for checks to clear).
> 


Maybe that’s your bank.  At least for domestic payments, checks are normally 
truncated at the bank of 1st deposit (paper checks generally no longer get 
moved around like the “good old days") and the exchange of funds is handled 
through ACH/ETF.  A check should actually clear in 2-3 days at most.  I've 
frequently taken a personal check payment if I know the buyer personally or by 
reputation, and I don’t recall having to wait any extraordinary time for a 
deposited check to show as “cleared”.

I’ve used the QTH list, reflector postings and eBay for buying and selling 
(mostly buying, to the chagrin of my bride).  They all work fine.  eBay takes 
too much, but then I’ve found you often get a higher selling price on eBay, 
too, because the market is just bigger.  The thing that bothers me about eBay 
the most is that they actually consider “shipping” to be part of the item's 
“value” and take a cut of what is your COST to ship.  It’s only a few $$ 
usually, but it just makes me grit my teeth in disgust.  Hamfests are at the 
bottom of the list — no matter how little you think you’re asking for something 
compared to perceived value, someone will stop by and tell you how (1) they 
won’t pay the eBay price, (2) they’d never pay that because they found one on a 
curb once or (3)  they got theirs for $25 from a dying widow.  I was once told 
that, because I wouldn’t come down another $5.00, it was MY fault that her 
grandson couldn’t have an ice cream on the way home.  And from bitter 
experience I won’t ever buy anything at a hamfest from someone that I don’t 
know and who promises that if I ignore the rust (just needs some paint) “it 
works perfectly” ;-)

Grant NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Due to the large number of OT posts on this topic, let's wind it down now in the 
interest of relieving email overload for our other readers.


73,

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On 2/26/2016 10:48 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
I find selling on e-mail reflectors better than e-bay (I have 90* rating of 
100%).  Elecraft allows FS posts of Elecraft equipment and many ham reflectors 
will allow occasional ham selling.  Different if you are a business.


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Re: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

[Edward R Cole]

I find selling on e-mail reflectors better than e-bay (I have 90* 
rating of 100%).  Elecraft allows FS posts of Elecraft equipment and 
many ham reflectors will allow occasional ham selling.  Different if 
you are a business.


I like PayPal even though it charges 3% on sales to seller.  It is 
fast and secure (meaning you risk the least in selling or buying from 
unknown people).  Alternate is using Postal Money Orders (slower as 
you wait for 1st class mail).  Or check if you know your buyer/seller 
and have trust (or endure 10-20 day wait for checks to clear).


I buy/sell for personal use and also run a "small" ham business.  I 
have been building DEMI transverter kits and recently began building 
a 80w 2m linear amp.  I was just notified that DEMI has sold off the 
VHF/UHF transverter part of their business so I am "out of business" 
building their kits.  I continue to offer 2m amps and process PayPal 
purchases of WA2ODO preamps.


I may expand by offering some small kits in the future.  Probably 
small ham accessories that are hard to find.  I can build W6PQL kits on demand.


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham Radio in Sci Am (admittedly OT)

[Bob Cutter]

I have read this and I feel the author did a good job of explaining an esoteric 
subset of our hobby for a "lay" audience. 

72, Bob KI0G

> On Feb 26, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
> 
> I was interested to see in the February 2016 issue of Scientific American 
> a book review of “Contact Sport” by J. George.  The book is about the 2014 
> WRTC contest.  Nice to see that there is a book about it but even nicer to 
> see a review in Sci Am.  The book describes, according to the review, “the 
> surprisingly thrilling world of competitive ham radio.”  Useful for 
> showing to a spouse, to say that huddling with a K3 in the dark at 3:00 AM 
> a few times a year is not a singular mania.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
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[Elecraft] Ham Radio in Sci Am (admittedly OT)

[Dauer, Edward]

I was interested to see in the February 2016 issue of Scientific American 
a book review of “Contact Sport” by J. George.  The book is about the 2014 
WRTC contest.  Nice to see that there is a book about it but even nicer to 
see a review in Sci Am.  The book describes, according to the review, “the 
surprisingly thrilling world of competitive ham radio.”  Useful for 
showing to a spouse, to say that huddling with a K3 in the dark at 3:00 AM 
a few times a year is not a singular mania.

Ted, KN1CBR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[lstavenhagen]

Well, yes, to spill the beans on this: it was when I was reviewing the filter
gains on my K3 the other day that this came up. I built my K3 with the stock
2.7khz 5 pole filter in FL1 and an 8 pole 400hz in FL2 - however, to even
out FL1 and FL2 requires the gain to be nearly maxed out for FL2 (8 db gain,
IIRC). My K3S, however, has 8 pole 2.8khz and 400hz in goth FL1 and 2,
respectively. But they're almost dead even in terms of attenuation with FL2
set at only 2 db gain.

So that led me to wonder if the 5 pole in my K3 had less attenuation in
general, accounting for the difference. Just a curiosity for me.

73,
LS
W5QD




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[Jim Brown]

On Fri,2/26/2016 8:50 AM, lstavenhagen wrote:

Quick question - do the 8 pole roofing filters have more attenuation, as a
general rule, in their passbands than the 5 pole?


Yes, but the difference doesn't matter -- it's in the IF, not the front 
end. Further, there is an menu adjustment for each filter to equalize 
the IF gain when switching between filters.


The advantage of 8-pole filters is smoother response in the passband of 
wider filters, and steeper skirts. In general, roofing filters are only 
needed for high QRM conditions like contesting. Their function is to 
protect the DSP from overload by strong signals outside the desired 
passband.  When the DSP IF is set to a bandwidth close to that of the 
roofing filter, the two filters cascade to provide even steeper skirts. 
Again, needed only under contest conditions.


It's amazing the things one can learn by reading the manual. :)

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

Hi Dave, 

The P3 does execute the commands one after another.   The problem is likely
that the K3 commands take a little longer to execute and there is no waiting
in the P3 for the K3 to change frequency.  In other words, the P3 executes
the serial commands in sequence.  It gets to a K3 command (DN7, UP7 etc) and
simply sends that over to the K3.  It then continues to execute the commands
in the macro.   Using the P3 and/or K3 utility delivers the same results as
would any program (Python, etc) that does not query the K3 for a reply. 

While adding a delay after the K3 commands may help, there is probably a
better way to do this.  Let me think about it for a while. 

Kind regards, 

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Re: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

[Walter Underwood]

You might try the Yaesu user group. I think they have a Yahoo group.

 http://foxtango.org/foxtango001.htm 

wunder
K6WRU
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> On Feb 26, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Ian - Ham  wrote:
> 
> Jose,
> 
> You could try selling your goods through your local ham club. Also, there
> are Yahoo! groups for many of the different Yaesu radio models. You could
> try joining one and sell through that avenue.
> 
> If you're on Facebook, there is also a group there called "Amateur Radio
> Buy/Sell/Trade." You could try that as another option.
> 
> As with all options, please beware of scam artists.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 73 de,
> 
> --Ian
> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
> Roswell, GA  EM74ua
> km4ik@gmail.com
> 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038
> PODXS 070 #1962
> K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jose
> Rivera
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:33 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?
> 
> I am looking to sell some of my Yaesu Radios in order to purchase a K3s.
> What are good reliable places to sell my radios? (FT-950 and FT-857D). I am
> trying to avoid ebay. I live in New York City, Manhattan.
> 
> 
> 
> Jose
> 
> N2LRB
> 
> n2...@n2lrb.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

[Ian - Ham]

Jose,

You could try selling your goods through your local ham club. Also, there
are Yahoo! groups for many of the different Yaesu radio models. You could
try joining one and sell through that avenue.

If you're on Facebook, there is also a group there called "Amateur Radio
Buy/Sell/Trade." You could try that as another option.

As with all options, please beware of scam artists.

Good luck!

73 de,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038
PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468


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Rivera
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:33 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

I am looking to sell some of my Yaesu Radios in order to purchase a K3s.
What are good reliable places to sell my radios? (FT-950 and FT-857D). I am
trying to avoid ebay. I live in New York City, Manhattan.

 

Jose

N2LRB

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[Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[lstavenhagen]

Hi all,
Quick question - do the 8 pole roofing filters have more attenuation, as a
general rule, in their passbands than the 5 pole? Long story on how I
arrived at this question in terms of troubleshooting something I've noticed
in my K3 and K3S, but I'm just curious if there's supposed to be a
noticeable difference?

My assumption is the 8 poles are going to have a little more attenuation
than the 5's, perhaps by as much as 3 db or more. Is that the case that
ya'll have noted?

I've looked through the list archives and haven't found a prior discussion
of this, so just wondering.

Thanks es 73,
LS
W5QD



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmit out of band question [ANSWERED]

[wp4cw via Elecraft]

Bert Rollen  wrote:

>Thanks David,
>
>I do not need 27 Mhz, (just need lower end of 26 Mhz) so hopefully all would
>work fine.
>
>In fact, I do not need the PA enabled at all.
>
>I will drop Elecraft a note soon.  (I do, BTW, have the KBPF3.)
>
>One question perhaps may still be answered here; would I have to have a
>special version of firmware each time the same is updated?  Or is the
>unlocking software a one-time application?
>
>Bert
> 
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>rol...@comcast.net
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>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: David Anderson [mailto:gm4...@yahoo.co.uk] 
>Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:11 AM
>To: Bert Rollen 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmit out of band question [ANSWERED]
>
>Hi Bert,
>
>As I understand it, and this is only what I have gleaned from others, is
>that in order to TRANSMIT out of band you need the unlocking software (for
>MARS frequencies etc) which Elecraft can supply if you explain why you need
>it. I believe it is more or less general coverage transmit out of band, and
>if you are a good bit out of band the KBPF3 will be required as well.
>
>The only fly in the ointment is that 27 MHz is never properly unlocked in
>case CB guys try to use the rig, and the power amplifier isn't enabled for
>27 MHz (don't know the exact frequency limits). However this probably means
>that the transverter ports would still work at those frequencies.
>
>Best to drop a line to Elecraft Support or phone and ask the question.
>
>Hope it goes well.
>
>73 from David GM4JJJ
>
>> On 26 Feb 2016, at 02:45, Bert Rollen  wrote:
>> 
>> Rats.  I was hoping for a broader answer.  
>> 
>> I have a custom 432 DEMI transverter with a *26* Mhz IF.  
>> 
>> Any ideas how well / if the K3 transverter output would work on 26 
>> Mhz?  (I have the KBPF3)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Bert - K4AR
>> 
>>  
>> Bert Rollen, PMP
>> rol...@comcast.net
>> 865-599-6074
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
>> David Anderson
>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:31 PM
>> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmit out of band question [ANSWERED]
>> 
>> Elecraft have confirmed
>> 
>> "You would not need to use the KBPF3 for only 50 kHz out of band on 20M"
>> 
>> Great news.
>> 
>> Thanks to all you great folks.
>> 
>> 73 from David GM4JJJ
>> 
>>> On 25 Feb 2016, at 13:40, David Anderson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks also to Ken K3IU who has tested his K3 with and without the 
>>> general
>> coverage bandpass filter enabled and found no difference in receive 
>> sensitivity between 14.350and 14.400.
>>> 
>>> Question answered!
>>> 
>>> 73 from David GM4JJJ
>>> 
 On 25 Feb 2016, at 12:46, David Anderson  wrote:
 
 Perfect many thanks Don.
 
 73 from David GM4JJJ
 
> On 25 Feb 2016, at 12:17, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> Transmission only 50 kHz above the ham band should not be a 
> problem.  If
>> you see a dropoff in receive sensitivity, than add the KBPF3.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 2/25/2016 4:02 AM, David Anderson wrote:
>> Still not got a definitive answer to my question, which I repeat:
>> 
>> K3 - Do I require the general coverage bandpass filter option to 
>> allow
>> transmission just for an extra 50 kHz above 14.350?  ( provided the 
>> radio is unlocked for transmit beyond the ham bands).
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

[Jeremiah Peschka]

For eBay, I do have a few recommendations (having just sold a couple of
laptops).

When you're creating the auction, there's an option to use the advanced
listing tool - do that. You can require that people pay immediately when
they use the Buy It Now option. This helps avoid a lot of scams where
people try to "wire funds in a few days" outside of eBay.

You can also list at a fixed price and avoid the auction altogether. eBay
does a really good job of telling you the range of prices you can expect to
sell something for and even suggests a price that's likely to get it sold
in a short time frame.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:29 AM John Shadle  wrote:

> I've done business on eBay, eham.net classifieds, and swap.qth.com boards.
> All have yielded acceptable results. I've never been burned at any of them
> as a seller.
>
> I recently sold my K3 on eBay, but would've preferred to sell it on
> eham.net
> or swap.qth.com. eBay, as you know, takes about 15% off the top (including
> the required use of PayPal). So, figure on that...
>
> The fellow who bought my K3 on eBay could've received a hefty discount if
> he had bought it from my eham.net or swap.qth.com listing, as the price
> there was 15% less. His loss! ;-)
>
> 73
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: E-Bay charges

[Ken G Kopp]

No John, I'm just a ordinary user of E-Bay, not a "dealer".

Dunno ... I'll pay closer attention next time.  (:-))

73

K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: E-Bay charges

[John Shadle]

Hi Ken,
I think you must have an eBay Store, because that is the only way fees
could be that low. In that case, you have to pay a monthly "Store fee" to
get that rate. If you are doing high volume, that makes sense.

http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformation/stores/Subscriptions.html

For the regular user, having a store doesn't make sense. Fees for regular
folks are 10% on the final value of the auction price (more if you have a
reserve price or other options). Plus, PayPal takes ~3% off the transaction
off the top. Then, eBay takes 10% of the amount of shipping you charge, too
(!).

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/fees.html

If a regular seller (not someone with a Store) can get away with not using
PayPal, I'd love to know how. I'm not saying it can't be done -- but I
guess I haven't figured that one out yet. ;-)

-john NE4U


On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Ken G Kopp  wrote:

> Hi John!
>
> I have a 100% rating for about 200 transactions and AFIK, E-Bay's fee is a
> bit less that 4% and PayPal use is not a condition of use.
>
> Virtually all of Rose's case and cover orders are paid via PayPal.  Never
> had a problem.
>
> 73
>
> K0PP
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[Elecraft] OT: E-Bay charges

[Ken G Kopp]

Hi John!

I have a 100% rating for about 200 transactions and AFIK, E-Bay's fee is a
bit less that 4% and PayPal use is not a condition of use.

Virtually all of Rose's case and cover orders are paid via PayPal.  Never
had a problem.

73

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[Elecraft] K-3/0 MINI with N1MM+

[Art via Elecraft]

Hi all,


Just setting up this dandy gizmo. Would someone using N1MM+ to control and send 
CW share set up info?


Thanks.


Art KZ5D
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Place to Sell Equipment?

[John Shadle]

I've done business on eBay, eham.net classifieds, and swap.qth.com boards.
All have yielded acceptable results. I've never been burned at any of them
as a seller.

I recently sold my K3 on eBay, but would've preferred to sell it on eham.net
or swap.qth.com. eBay, as you know, takes about 15% off the top (including
the required use of PayPal). So, figure on that...

The fellow who bought my K3 on eBay could've received a hefty discount if
he had bought it from my eham.net or swap.qth.com listing, as the price
there was 15% less. His loss! ;-)

73
-john NE4U
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmit out of band question [ANSWERED]

[Bert Rollen]

Thanks David,

I do not need 27 Mhz, (just need lower end of 26 Mhz) so hopefully all would
work fine.

In fact, I do not need the PA enabled at all.

I will drop Elecraft a note soon.  (I do, BTW, have the KBPF3.)

One question perhaps may still be answered here; would I have to have a
special version of firmware each time the same is updated?  Or is the
unlocking software a one-time application?

Bert
 
Bert Rollen, PMP
rol...@comcast.net
865-599-6074


-Original Message-
From: David Anderson [mailto:gm4...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:11 AM
To: Bert Rollen 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmit out of band question [ANSWERED]

Hi Bert,

As I understand it, and this is only what I have gleaned from others, is
that in order to TRANSMIT out of band you need the unlocking software (for
MARS frequencies etc) which Elecraft can supply if you explain why you need
it. I believe it is more or less general coverage transmit out of band, and
if you are a good bit out of band the KBPF3 will be required as well.

The only fly in the ointment is that 27 MHz is never properly unlocked in
case CB guys try to use the rig, and the power amplifier isn't enabled for
27 MHz (don't know the exact frequency limits). However this probably means
that the transverter ports would still work at those frequencies.

Best to drop a line to Elecraft Support or phone and ask the question.

Hope it goes well.

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 26 Feb 2016, at 02:45, Bert Rollen  wrote:
> 
> Rats.  I was hoping for a broader answer.  
> 
> I have a custom 432 DEMI transverter with a *26* Mhz IF.  
> 
> Any ideas how well / if the K3 transverter output would work on 26 
> Mhz?  (I have the KBPF3)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bert - K4AR
> 
>  
> Bert Rollen, PMP
> rol...@comcast.net
> 865-599-6074
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> David Anderson
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:31 PM
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmit out of band question [ANSWERED]
> 
> Elecraft have confirmed
> 
> "You would not need to use the KBPF3 for only 50 kHz out of band on 20M"
> 
> Great news.
> 
> Thanks to all you great folks.
> 
> 73 from David GM4JJJ
> 
>> On 25 Feb 2016, at 13:40, David Anderson  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks also to Ken K3IU who has tested his K3 with and without the 
>> general
> coverage bandpass filter enabled and found no difference in receive 
> sensitivity between 14.350and 14.400.
>> 
>> Question answered!
>> 
>> 73 from David GM4JJJ
>> 
>>> On 25 Feb 2016, at 12:46, David Anderson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perfect many thanks Don.
>>> 
>>> 73 from David GM4JJJ
>>> 
 On 25 Feb 2016, at 12:17, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
 
 David,
 
 Transmission only 50 kHz above the ham band should not be a 
 problem.  If
> you see a dropoff in receive sensitivity, than add the KBPF3.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
> On 2/25/2016 4:02 AM, David Anderson wrote:
> Still not got a definitive answer to my question, which I repeat:
> 
> K3 - Do I require the general coverage bandpass filter option to 
> allow
> transmission just for an extra 50 kHz above 14.350?  ( provided the 
> radio is unlocked for transmit beyond the ham bands).
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Re: [Elecraft] Y Cable for K3 ACC 15pin connector

[Cady, Fred]

Winford Engineering has some nice stuff too:
http://www.winford.com/

73,
Fred KE7X


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Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:22 AM
To: Dennis Egan; Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Y Cable for K3 ACC 15pin connector

Elecraft: E980190
   

Cables Wholesale:
   

Altex:



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> I think someone out there has a source and part number for a compatible
> 15 pin Y-connector.  I need the type where the pins are connected straight
> through.
>
> Please reply Direct.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Dave Cole]

It would of course be best if the P3 software actually would execute
macros one after th other with no issues...  I tried inserting 100ms of
";" in and that seemed to fail...  Nice use of the tools at hand!
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On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 08:58 -0500, Warren Merkel wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> Now that the # commands for the P3 are being executed from within a
> P3
> macro, this *should* be possible.  That is the first thing I was
> attempting to do after updating to P3 v1.57 -- Although have yet to
> get
> it to work completely.   It appears that some of the individual
> commands
> in the sequence are not being executed due to the speed at which they
> are executed from the macro.The P3 is single threaded so inputted
> commands could be missed while it is handling other things.
> 
> Using Tim's (A45WG) idea for a CW pileup macro, I recently extended
> it
> for an SSB view in a python script run from a serial port connected
> host.  The meat of that script boils down to this macro form:
> 
> #FXT0;#FXA0;#SPN000300;UP7;UP7;#FXT1;#FXA1;DN7;DN7;
> 
> There may be other ways to accomplish this feature however.   When
> this
> string is assigned to a P3 macro position and executed, only a few of
> the pieces get executed properly.
> 
> I have been advised that inserting other commands that do "inquiries"
> may be useful to add pacing to the sequence.  These queries are
> commands
> that ASK for a result, like FA to get current frequency from the K3. 
> The response is discarded of course, but the delay might be useful in
> wasting time while the P3 is "busy."   I'm still tinkering with
> getting
> this concept to work.  Feel free to help me tinker with it.
> 
> I have however, gotten it to work perfectly using a Genovation
> keypad.  
> I have split the above string into seven distinct macros in the P3,
> then
> I trigger each one in sequence from a single key on the Genovation
> keypad.   The software for the Genovation keypad allows you to put in
> a
> selectable delay between "keystrokes" so I have got it working well
> with
> 100ms of delay after each # command.  The K3 UP and DN  commands seem
> to
> operate well without any pacing between/or after them.   I only tried
> this a few times, first starting with about 30 ms of delay, and that
> wasn't enough.  It started to work at 100ms.  Your mileage may vary.
> 
> In the P3, create these macros with listed trigger key:
> (I chose the shifted F1 through shifted F7, feel free to use any
> other
> keys you want)
> 
> Shift F1#FXT0;
> Shift F2#FXA0;
> Shift F3#SPN000300;
> Shift F4UP7
> Shift F5#FXT1;
> Shift F6#FXA1;
> Shift F7DN7
> 
> In the Genovation keypad software, define one of the keys to fire
> this
> sequence and download it to the keypad.
> 
> It looks like this: (L Shift Down) F1 (delay 100) F2 (delay 100) F3
> (delay 100) F4  F4  F5 (delay 100) F6 (delay 100) F7 F7 (L Shift Up)
> 
> (A snapshot of this setup in the Genovation software is here:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Genovation_Pileup_ssb_ke
> y.jpg
> 
> Connect the Genovation keypad to the P3 and press the single key you
> used for the above macro, and poof!
> 
> Warren, KD4Z
> 
> 
> On 2/26/2016 12:48 AM, Jim Miller  wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:43:18 -0500
> > From: Jim Miller 
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware
> > available
> > 
> > So with this firmware will it be possible to do the DX on the LHS
> > of the P3
> > screen and the pileup to the right and assign it to a P3 Fn key?
> > 
> > jim ab3cv
> > 
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Re: [Elecraft] Y Cable for K3 ACC 15pin connector

[Don Wilhelm]

Dennis,

A "Y" cable is available from Elecraft.  The p/n is E980190.  Look on 
the order page for the KPA500.


73,
Don W3FPR

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I think someone out there has a source and part number for a compatible
15 pin Y-connector.  I need the type where the pins are connected straight
through.




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Dave Cole]

Nice Job Warren!  That is a clever way of doing that, and getting
around the bugs in the P3 software!!!  Thank you!  I will add that to
my setup...
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On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 08:58 -0500, Warren Merkel wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> Now that the # commands for the P3 are being executed from within a
> P3
> macro, this *should* be possible.  That is the first thing I was
> attempting to do after updating to P3 v1.57 -- Although have yet to
> get
> it to work completely.   It appears that some of the individual
> commands
> in the sequence are not being executed due to the speed at which they
> are executed from the macro.The P3 is single threaded so inputted
> commands could be missed while it is handling other things.
> 
> Using Tim's (A45WG) idea for a CW pileup macro, I recently extended
> it
> for an SSB view in a python script run from a serial port connected
> host.  The meat of that script boils down to this macro form:
> 
> #FXT0;#FXA0;#SPN000300;UP7;UP7;#FXT1;#FXA1;DN7;DN7;
> 
> There may be other ways to accomplish this feature however.   When
> this
> string is assigned to a P3 macro position and executed, only a few of
> the pieces get executed properly.
> 
> I have been advised that inserting other commands that do "inquiries"
> may be useful to add pacing to the sequence.  These queries are
> commands
> that ASK for a result, like FA to get current frequency from the K3. 
> The response is discarded of course, but the delay might be useful in
> wasting time while the P3 is "busy."   I'm still tinkering with
> getting
> this concept to work.  Feel free to help me tinker with it.
> 
> I have however, gotten it to work perfectly using a Genovation
> keypad.  
> I have split the above string into seven distinct macros in the P3,
> then
> I trigger each one in sequence from a single key on the Genovation
> keypad.   The software for the Genovation keypad allows you to put in
> a
> selectable delay between "keystrokes" so I have got it working well
> with
> 100ms of delay after each # command.  The K3 UP and DN  commands seem
> to
> operate well without any pacing between/or after them.   I only tried
> this a few times, first starting with about 30 ms of delay, and that
> wasn't enough.  It started to work at 100ms.  Your mileage may vary.
> 
> In the P3, create these macros with listed trigger key:
> (I chose the shifted F1 through shifted F7, feel free to use any
> other
> keys you want)
> 
> Shift F1#FXT0;
> Shift F2#FXA0;
> Shift F3#SPN000300;
> Shift F4UP7
> Shift F5#FXT1;
> Shift F6#FXA1;
> Shift F7DN7
> 
> In the Genovation keypad software, define one of the keys to fire
> this
> sequence and download it to the keypad.
> 
> It looks like this: (L Shift Down) F1 (delay 100) F2 (delay 100) F3
> (delay 100) F4  F4  F5 (delay 100) F6 (delay 100) F7 F7 (L Shift Up)
> 
> (A snapshot of this setup in the Genovation software is here:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Genovation_Pileup_ssb_ke
> y.jpg
> 
> Connect the Genovation keypad to the P3 and press the single key you
> used for the above macro, and poof!
> 
> Warren, KD4Z
> 
> 
> On 2/26/2016 12:48 AM, Jim Miller  wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:43:18 -0500
> > From: Jim Miller 
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware
> > available
> > 
> > So with this firmware will it be possible to do the DX on the LHS
> > of the P3
> > screen and the pileup to the right and assign it to a P3 Fn key?
> > 
> > jim ab3cv
> > 
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Re: [Elecraft] Y Cable for K3 ACC 15pin connector

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Elecraft: E980190
  

Cables Wholesale:
  

Altex:



73,
  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/26/2016 9:00 AM, Dennis Egan wrote:

I think someone out there has a source and part number for a compatible
15 pin Y-connector.  I need the type where the pins are connected straight
through.

Please reply Direct.

Dennis W1UE
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[Elecraft] Y Cable for K3 ACC 15pin connector

[Dennis Egan]

I think someone out there has a source and part number for a compatible
15 pin Y-connector.  I need the type where the pins are connected straight
through.

Please reply Direct.

Dennis W1UE
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Warren Merkel]

Jim,

Now that the # commands for the P3 are being executed from within a P3
macro, this *should* be possible.  That is the first thing I was
attempting to do after updating to P3 v1.57 -- Although have yet to get
it to work completely.   It appears that some of the individual commands
in the sequence are not being executed due to the speed at which they
are executed from the macro.The P3 is single threaded so inputted
commands could be missed while it is handling other things.

Using Tim's (A45WG) idea for a CW pileup macro, I recently extended it
for an SSB view in a python script run from a serial port connected
host.  The meat of that script boils down to this macro form:

#FXT0;#FXA0;#SPN000300;UP7;UP7;#FXT1;#FXA1;DN7;DN7;

There may be other ways to accomplish this feature however.   When this
string is assigned to a P3 macro position and executed, only a few of
the pieces get executed properly.

I have been advised that inserting other commands that do "inquiries"
may be useful to add pacing to the sequence.  These queries are commands
that ASK for a result, like FA to get current frequency from the K3. 
The response is discarded of course, but the delay might be useful in
wasting time while the P3 is "busy."   I'm still tinkering with getting
this concept to work.  Feel free to help me tinker with it.

I have however, gotten it to work perfectly using a Genovation keypad.  
I have split the above string into seven distinct macros in the P3, then
I trigger each one in sequence from a single key on the Genovation
keypad.   The software for the Genovation keypad allows you to put in a
selectable delay between "keystrokes" so I have got it working well with
100ms of delay after each # command.  The K3 UP and DN  commands seem to
operate well without any pacing between/or after them.   I only tried
this a few times, first starting with about 30 ms of delay, and that
wasn't enough.  It started to work at 100ms.  Your mileage may vary.

In the P3, create these macros with listed trigger key:
(I chose the shifted F1 through shifted F7, feel free to use any other
keys you want)

Shift F1#FXT0;
Shift F2#FXA0;
Shift F3#SPN000300;
Shift F4UP7
Shift F5#FXT1;
Shift F6#FXA1;
Shift F7DN7

In the Genovation keypad software, define one of the keys to fire this
sequence and download it to the keypad.

It looks like this: (L Shift Down) F1 (delay 100) F2 (delay 100) F3
(delay 100) F4  F4  F5 (delay 100) F6 (delay 100) F7 F7 (L Shift Up)

(A snapshot of this setup in the Genovation software is here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Genovation_Pileup_ssb_key.jpg

Connect the Genovation keypad to the P3 and press the single key you
used for the above macro, and poof!

Warren, KD4Z


On 2/26/2016 12:48 AM, Jim Miller  wrote:
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:43:18 -0500
> From: Jim Miller 
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available
>
> So with this firmware will it be possible to do the DX on the LHS of the P3
> screen and the pileup to the right and assign it to a P3 Fn key?
>
> jim ab3cv
>
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[Elecraft] KX3 For Sale in UK only

[John Chappell G3XRJ]

KX3-K srl 2989.
includes
KXAT3 Wide range 20-W ATU
KXFL3 Dual Passband Roofing filter
KXPD3 Precision Keyer Paddle.
E980231 I/Q Output Cable 2.5-3.5mm
KXUSB USB Interface cable.
KXBC3 Internal NiMH Charger/clock
14v PSU
Side KX Panels and hard cover.
All contained in a Pelican 1200 case.

Only made approx 20 Contacts.
Current Firmware 2.38 installed.
Unmarked and fully working to spec from a non smoking environment.

With over £400 of extras I'm looking for £950.
Prefer buyer inspect and test but as I'm at Lands End
happy to courier at cost.

John G3XRJ

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Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

[David Aslin G3WGN]

Thanks Chris!  My use case is 2 antenna SO2R.  I can always put tape over the 
sensor lights :-)
Doing fine here and at last homing in on a contest QTH.  Hope all is well with 
you.  I have Visalia 2017 in planning so hope to see you there or in the Bay 
Area next spring.
73, David G3WGN  M6O

-Original Message-
From: Chris Tate - N6WM [mailto:ct...@ewnetinc.com] 
Sent: 26 February 2016 00:45
To: Chris Tate - N6WM ; David Aslin G3WGN 
; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

Oh one more thing, this of course means that you cannot have both in the same 
antenna chain in this mode.. the big case for this being if you wanted an 
inboard low power sensor, and an outboard high power sensor.  This is not 
possible with the W2 and you would need 2 wattmeters. But it works for 2 
antenna SO2R.  Perhaps with a W3? ;-) ;-)

~C./WM

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Chris 
Tate - N6WM
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:21 PM
To: Dave G3WGN M6O ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

Hi Dave hope all is well, haven't seen you for quite a while now.


It works.. and the magic answer was... drum roll

See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website. 
> On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into 
> "search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting RF.
> I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB will 
> cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would be 
> meaningless.

The important note # 5 I overlooked during manual scanning..  a bit obscure I 
personally would probably promote that to a section in the manual called dual 
sensor operation.   JM2C

When you are using 1 meter with 2 antennas and have installed both sensors, 
hold down the sensor button and that puts the sensors into a polling mode.  It 
is reflected by a rapid flickering of both sensor lights.  Then the software 
and meter will reflect the RF to the sensor currently being transmitted.

The flickering lights are a bit.. err.  much.. but it all works FB.  Just down 
drive RF through both sensors at the same time or it will confuse the 
electronics and not display useful info.  I

Again thanks to the W6FVI and W6FB for your help and G3WGN/M6O for your calls 
and pointing to us 6 landers!


All good.

~Chris
N6WM


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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave 
G3WGN M6O
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:51 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the w2

Chris, please let us know the 'how to' when you have it up and running.
73 David G3WGN  M6O  WJ6O



Chris Tate - N6WM wrote
> Thanks Brian and thanks to Jack W6 F ine B usiness for getting back to 
> me as well.. I think I am on the path to a solution.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:

> elecraft-bounces@.qth

> ] On Behalf Of Brian & Cyndi
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:57 PM
> To: 

> elecraft@.qth

> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] and now something completely different.. the
> w2
> 
> 1. Not possible. The two sensors feed into an electronic switch that 
> connects one sensor at a time to the microprocessor/LED bargraph display.
> 
> 2. See the "W2 Owners Manual Rev D2", available on the Elecraft website. 
> On page 5, "Important note" #5, it describes how to put the W2 into 
> "search" mode. The W2 will automatically connect to the sensor getting RF.
> I wouldn't recommend allowing *both* sensors to be hot; CW or SSB will 
> cause the sensors to switch rapidly and the resulting display would be 
> meaningless.
> 
> 73,
> Brian, W6FVI
> 
> On 2/23/2016 7:18 AM, Chris Tate - N6WM wrote:
>> I have installed a number of W2 watt meters in a large contest 
>> station in the bay area.  In general this has worked out real well, 
>> but now that I am setting up a second SO2R position I need to ask if 
>> anyone has either written some software or if it is at all possible 
>> to
>>
>>
>> 1.Observe data from both sensor 1 and 2 at the same time
>>
>> 2.   Switch without manual intervention (pressing the button) between
>> sensor 1 and 2.
>>
>> If anyone has an intuitive solution to this so I don't have to move 
>> to 2 physical watt meters it would be great.
>>
>> Apologies if this has been discussed at some point in the past.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Dave Cole]

This change allows for the control of the P3 via the Genovation keypad.

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On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 06:15 -0500, Bill wrote:
> Will any of these changes effect the use of macros programmed into
> the 
> P3 that are used to control the K3 - ala the "48 button keypad"?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Dave Cole]

HI,

I do not believe this corrects the macros being strung together bug
which currently exists in the P3.  I hope this bug fix happens sooner
than later.

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On Thu, 2016-02-25 at 22:43 -0500, Jim Miller wrote:
> So with this firmware will it be possible to do the DX on the LHS of
> the P3
> screen and the pileup to the right and assign it to a P3 Fn key?
> 
> jim ab3cv
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Paul Saffren N6HZ  m>
> wrote:
> 
> > BETA firmware packages for the P3 & SVGA are now available for
> > download
> > from
> > the Elecraft website.   These BETA versions contain new features as
> > well as
> > several bug fixes.  With these versions we introduce the ability to
> > embed
> > P3
> > commands within SVGA keyboard macros.  Also new is the ability to
> > map the
> > first 8 keyboard macros to any of the 8 FN keys located on the
> > front panel
> > of the P3.
> > 
> > Refer to the release notes below for more information
> > 
> > Please direct all issues/questions/etc to:
> > alan at you know where dot com
> > pauls at you know where dot com
> > 
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> > Paul n6hz
> > 
> > 
> > To load beta firmware on to your P3/SVGA:
> > 1) Create a temporary folder.
> > 2) Download the beta firmware from:
> > ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/beta/P3_0157_SVGA_0131_BETA.zip
> > 3) Extract the contents of the zip file into the temporary folder.
> > 4) With your P3 connected via serial cable, start P3 Utility and
> > select the
> > Firmware Tab
> > 5) Click on Browse and select the temporary folder that holds the
> > extracted
> > files.
> > 6) Click on "Send all new firmware to P3"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Release notes:
> > 
> > MCU 01.57 / 2-2-2016
> > 
> > Version 01.57 requires SVGA firmware 01.31 to support all SVGA
> > features.
> > 
> > * P3 commands in keyboard macros: Added support to allow P3
> > commands to be
> > embedded in SVGA keyboard macros.  When entering a keyboard macro
> > using a
> > USB keyboard attached to the P3/SVGA, P3 commands can now be
> > intermixed
> > with
> > K3 commands by preceding the command with the ‘#’
> > character.  Example: set
> > up a macro to set the K3 to PSK31, frequency 14.070, P3 span of 100
> > kHz,
> > fixed tune enabled:
> > FA0001407;MD6;DT3;#SPN001000;#FXT1;
> > 
> > * SVGA keyboard macros as function keys: The first 8 SVGA keyboard
> > macros
> > can now be executed from the 8 front panel function keys.  First,
> > using a
> > keyboard, program the macro and make sure to save it into one of
> > the first
> > 8
> > locations (mem 1 – 8).  Then on the P3, press the MENU button and
> > using the
> > encoder, select the SVGA menu and press the encoder to enter. Then
> > using
> > the
> > encoder, choose “Macro 1” through “Macro 8”,  then press the
> > function key
> > (short tap or long hold) to map the macro to the function key.
> > 
> > * Enable/disable TX sensing at the TxMon coupler: Added TxSensEn to
> > TxMon
> > sub-menu.  This allows enabling/disabling of transmit sensing at
> > the
> > coupler.  For K3 and K3S users, TxSensEn can be set to “disabled”,
> > which
> > will use the serial connection from the K3 to determine the TX
> > state.
> > Setting TxSensEn to “enabled” will use forward power sensed at the
> > TxMon
> > coupler to determine TX state (useful for non-Elecraft radios).
> > 
> > * K3S attenuator support:  The P3 now properly scales the display
> > when the
> > four-step attenuator in the K3S is enabled.
> > 
> > * SWR meter blanked:  Both the analog and digital SWR displays are
> > now
> > blanked whenever the transmit power is too low to give a valid
> > reading.
> > 
> > * Serial #DSM command:  The Display Mode (#DSM) command now
> > controls the
> > Transmit Monitor's power/SWR meter display as well as enabling and
> > disabling
> > the waterfall window.  #DSM0 = Spectrum display only, #DSM1 =
> > Spectrum +
> > waterfall, #DSM2 = Spectrum + meters, #DSM3 = Spectrum + waterfall
> > +
> > meters.
> > 
> > * New #FON command:  The display font can now be selected via a
> > serial
> > command.  #FON0 = 5 x 7 pixels, #FON1 = 7 x 11 pixels, #FON2 = 9 x
> > 14
> > pixels.
> > 
> > * New #XCV command:  The transceiver type can now be selected via a
> > serial
> > command.  #XCV00 = "K3", #XCV01 = User-defined, #XCV03 = 455 kHz
> > IF, etc.
> > The command uses  the same number order as in the "Xcvr Sel" menu
> > item.
> > 
> > * Transceiver definition bug fix - Exiting:  When exiting the "Xcvr
> > Def"
> > menu page, if the user-defined transceiver is already selected, it
> > will
> > reflect the new values inmmediately, rather than having to re-
> > select it.
> > 
> > * Transceiver definition bug fix - IF Invert:  The USER transceiver
> > that is
> > 

Re: [Elecraft] P3 v1.57 / SVGA v1.31 BETA firmware available

[Bill]

Will any of these changes effect the use of macros programmed into the 
P3 that are used to control the K3 - ala the "48 button keypad"?


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