Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question

[Wes]

Does that make me right too?

On 5/23/2016 8:47 PM, Matt Maguire wrote:

Hi Ron,
Of course, you're right, you want the set screw against the flat part of the 
shaft, otherwise the knob could be pulled even more off-centre. Thanks for 
clarifying.

73, Matt VK2RQ




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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1)

[Wayne Burdick]

:)


On May 23, 2016, at 9:23 PM, "kev...@coho.net"  wrote:

> It is a small rig
> 
> Full of well thought out features
> 
> Many bands and modes
> 
> 
> Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] The KX2

[Wayne Burdick]

In his book "The Joy of QRP," Ade Weiss famously said:

If there is a place, and you can get to it, you must operate from there.

This is the motivation behind the KX2. Thanks to its small size and high level 
of integration, it's the radio you'd wish you had while hanging precariously 
from a cliff, sitting high in a tree, hiding from burglars in an attic, or any 
of numerous other likely operating scenarios. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 23, 2016, at 9:04 PM, Matt Maguire  wrote:

> Wow, ten words or less is tough, like writing a haiku :-)
> "Smaller KX3 with fewer bands, no panadapter, no roofing filter".
> There, that's 10 words. Note that even without a roofing filter, the 
> performance is still excellent, and its compact size makes it the perfect 
> little "grab-n-go" radio.
> 73, Matt VK2RQ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:25 PM -0700, "w7aqk"  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has 
> created quite a stir.  A lot of people are very curious about this rig, 
> including me.  As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a 
> KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are.
> 
> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a 
> "downsized" version of the KX3.  I can certainly see how this has stimulated 
> a lot of interest.  What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does 
> anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, 
> radio.  At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter.  That's not 
> necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. 
> Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might 
> gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user.
> 
> The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although 
> the footprint is not quite that much different.  The price is lighter too! 
> As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage.  SOTA ops probably 
> will really appreciate this!  You still have a very competent radio with 
> just about all the features a portable op would want or need.
> 
> The things you give up are not insignificant.  There is a slight power 
> differential, which may, or may not, be a concern.  Possibly more of a 
> concern might be not having roofing filters.  I've become a huge fan of 
> having those.  Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic 
> for some.  I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might 
> be.  With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no 
> VHF/UHF as well.
> 
> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU.  The one 
> for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see 
> less capability.  Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I 
> just get nervous about less.  The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only 
> moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that.  Elecraft 
> can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that.
> 
> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2.  In 
> their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that 
> capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm 
> still disappointed.  Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if 
> they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that 
> smaller package--or I assume that was the problem.  Or, maybe it was to just 
> hold the cost down???
> 
> I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be 
> a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station.  Lately I've been 
> tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well.  However, 
> I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up.  The lesser 
> capabilities described above would explain much of that.  I still much 
> prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3.  It's a great 
> reason to own both!
> 
> So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less?  Is the KX2 a 
> stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?  In any event, 
> there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying 
> to pick one over the other.  If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably 
> get a headache trying to make that decision.  Either way you go you are 
> probably a "winner!"  The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, 
> and apparently some have already made that decision!  I'm not sure that 
> would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! 
> Hi.
> 
> I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Dave W7AQK
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1)

[kev...@coho.net]

It is a small rig

Full of well thought out features

Many bands and modes


Kevin.  KD5ONS

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Re: [Elecraft] The KX2

[Matt Maguire]

Wow, ten words or less is tough, like writing a haiku :-)
"Smaller KX3 with fewer bands, no panadapter, no roofing filter".
There, that's 10 words. Note that even without a roofing filter, the 
performance is still excellent, and its compact size makes it the perfect 
little "grab-n-go" radio.
73, Matt VK2RQ





On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:25 PM -0700, "w7aqk"  wrote:










Hi All,

The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has 
created quite a stir.  A lot of people are very curious about this rig, 
including me.  As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a 
KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are.

I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a 
"downsized" version of the KX3.  I can certainly see how this has stimulated 
a lot of interest.  What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does 
anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, 
radio.  At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter.  That's not 
necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. 
Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might 
gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user.

The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although 
the footprint is not quite that much different.  The price is lighter too! 
As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage.  SOTA ops probably 
will really appreciate this!  You still have a very competent radio with 
just about all the features a portable op would want or need.

The things you give up are not insignificant.  There is a slight power 
differential, which may, or may not, be a concern.  Possibly more of a 
concern might be not having roofing filters.  I've become a huge fan of 
having those.  Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic 
for some.  I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might 
be.  With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no 
VHF/UHF as well.

I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU.  The one 
for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see 
less capability.  Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I 
just get nervous about less.  The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only 
moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that.  Elecraft 
can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that.

I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2.  In 
their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that 
capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm 
still disappointed.  Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if 
they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that 
smaller package--or I assume that was the problem.  Or, maybe it was to just 
hold the cost down???

I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be 
a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station.  Lately I've been 
tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well.  However, 
I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up.  The lesser 
capabilities described above would explain much of that.  I still much 
prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3.  It's a great 
reason to own both!

So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less?  Is the KX2 a 
stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?  In any event, 
there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying 
to pick one over the other.  If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably 
get a headache trying to make that decision.  Either way you go you are 
probably a "winner!"  The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, 
and apparently some have already made that decision!  I'm not sure that 
would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! 
Hi.

I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2.

73,

Dave W7AQK








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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 first impressions and comments

[Wayne Burdick]

On May 23, 2016, at 8:35 PM, "w4sc"  wrote:

> Managed to snag a KX2 at Dayton and had it on the air late Sunday afternoon.  
> Worked a couple of stations on SSB, but mostly listening.  
> 
> KX2 will be great for back-packing / very portable ops. Don’t expect KX3 with 
> ‘roofing filter’ RX performance.
> 
> Controls of the KX2 are intuitive and well thought out.  Easy to learn.  Like 
> the band change implementation.
> 
> Don’t like the main knob, needs a ‘dimple’.  I had issue with knob drag on 
> the encoder bearing/panel mount sleeve.  Corrected by removing knob and 
> carefully re-installing and leaving required knob to mounting sleeve 
> clearance to stop drag.

I would avoid using a dimple, as this would tempt the operator to apply more 
radial force to the knob, hastening encoder wear. Instead, try running your 
finger lightly along the edge of the knob as you rotate it. This works 
surprisingly well for fast QSYs. (Also make use of coarse tuning with the OFS 
control when VFO A is set for fine tuning.)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] The KX2

[w7aqk]

Eric and All,

Boy, I don't know Eric!!!  I see your point, but I don't agree at all that 
this is more a move from/towards the KX1/K1 than it is from the KX3.  Even 
Elecraft seems to view this as a comparison between the KX2 and the KX3. 
Just look at the FAQ page:


http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf

They even have a chart of feature comparisons between those two rigs 
specifically!!!  No mention of either the KX1 or K1 there!


The KX2 is a reduced size look-alike to the KX3.  It's just got some feature 
differentials, but even more feature inclusions!  It's an SDR, just as the 
KX3 is, and it takes much the same advantage of that platform.


Yes, it is a move towards smaller size, like the K1 and KX1, but the KX2 has 
KX3 "genes" all over it!  That's my only point, and not intended to be 
critical either.  There is a huge comparability to the KX3, but not much to 
either of those older rigs.


In any event, I'm not sure very many people will be evaluating acquiring 
this new radio as opposed to a K1 or KX1, but I bet bunches of folks will be 
evaluating the KX2 vs. the KX3.  That said, I suppose even more people will 
be motivated to put their K1's and KX3's on the shelf, but I think the KX3 
already had the biggest impact on that.  For that matter, so did a lot of 
other more recent offerings from other sources.  The K1 or KX1 is an 
apples/oranges comparison to the KX2.  The KX2 is an oranges/tangerines 
comparison to the KX3.  Or, to use your comparison, how about an F-150 crew 
cab 4X4, vs. an F-150 standard with a short bed???  Well, you get my point 
even if you don't agree with it.


Cheers!

Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] The KX2

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Dave,


> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a 
> "downsized" version of the KX3.  I can certainly see how this has stimulated 
> a lot of interest.  What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does 
> anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, 
> radio.  At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. 

The KX2, given its size/weight, can go places no other 9-band/mutli-mode HF 
transceiver can go. This makes it "more capable" in a sense. It has fewer 
controls, but they're the ones you generally need for ultra portable operation. 

It has a number of features that make it ideal for HT-style (or horizontally 
deployed/hand-held) operation:

  - built-in mic
  - battery shifted to the left (bottom, when hand-held)
  - heat sink on the right (top, when hand-held)
  - XMIT switch easily accessible for use as PTT
  - attached paddle length reduced, easily accessible during HT use
  - amp-hours metering for better tracking battery life
  - quick-disconnet jack for trailing counterpoise wire


> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU.  The one 
> for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see 
> less capability.  

See previous post. There is one less L and C, and those were primarily for 
better coverage of 160 meters.


> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2 that 
> capability is more appropriate for a larger rig ... just not enough room in 
> that smaller package ... maybe it was to just hold the cost down???

All of the above.

The feature set was carefully targeted to keep the cost lower, making it a good 
first HF rig for new operators.

> 

> So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? 

See previous email :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] The KX2

[Don Wilhelm]

Is the Dick Tracy "wrist radio" next?  How do the paddles connect to 
that one?


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 11:41 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

The KXAT2 can, over its target range of 80-10 m, match essentially the same 
load range as the KXAT3 on these bands.

The KXAT3 has one more L and C, improving matches on 160 m.

In exactly 10 words, the KX2 is "the world's first all-HF-band, SSB/CW/data HT" 
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Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question

[Matt Maguire]

Hi Ron,
Of course, you're right, you want the set screw against the flat part of the 
shaft, otherwise the knob could be pulled even more off-centre. Thanks for 
clarifying.

73, Matt VK2RQ




On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:00 PM -0700, "Ron D'Eau Claire"  wrote:










Matt:
What I was referring to is that with a flat the KX2 shaft is no longer
round, so the set screws can pull the knob off center unless they are
carefully positioned so they pull the knob against the round segment of the
shaft. 

The shaft of the KX2 encoder is slightly smaller than the KX3 encoder -
about 10 mils - so that can contribute a small amount eccentricity as well. 

73, Ron AC7AC

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To: Wes; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a
smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one
point, and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre
points is (R - r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and
the little circle is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is
irrelevant, as the screw is adjusted to meet it wherever it sits.
I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred.
73, Matt VK2RQ

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On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes"  wrote:










Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat.  How could it not
be centered?


On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the
encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft.
>
> Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] The KX2

[Wayne Burdick]

The KXAT2 can, over its target range of 80-10 m, match essentially the same 
load range as the KXAT3 on these bands. 

The KXAT3 has one more L and C, improving matches on 160 m.

In exactly 10 words, the KX2 is "the world's first all-HF-band, SSB/CW/data HT" 
:)

73,
Wayne

On May 23, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:

> Some good observations, Dale.  A comparison with the KX1 might also be 
> pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing.
> 
> One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the 
> optional ATU.  The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, 
> but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are 
> great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to 
> suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes 
> "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I 
> suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says 
> "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough.
> 
> Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2?  Seems that would defeat 
> the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops 
> with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me.  Clearly the 
> KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line.
> 
> As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the 
> KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", perhaps 
> a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-)
> 
> 73, Phil W7OX
> 
> On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has 
>> created quite a stir.  A lot of people are very curious about this rig, 
>> including me.  As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a 
>> KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are.
>> 
>> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a 
>> "downsized" version of the KX3.  I can certainly see how this has stimulated 
>> a lot of interest.  What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does 
>> anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, 
>> radio.  At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter.  That's not 
>> necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. 
>> Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might 
>> gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user.
>> 
>> The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although 
>> the footprint is not quite that much different.  The price is lighter too! 
>> As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage.  SOTA ops probably 
>> will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with just 
>> about all the features a portable op would want or need.
>> 
>> The things you give up are not insignificant.  There is a slight power 
>> differential, which may, or may not, be a concern.  Possibly more of a 
>> concern might be not having roofing filters.  I've become a huge fan of 
>> having those.  Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic 
>> for some.  I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might 
>> be.  With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no 
>> VHF/UHF as well.
>> 
>> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one 
>> for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see 
>> less capability.  Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I 
>> just get nervous about less.  The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only 
>> moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that.  Elecraft 
>> can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that.
>> 
>> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2.  In 
>> their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that 
>> capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm 
>> still disappointed.  Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if 
>> they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that 
>> smaller package--or I assume that was the problem.  Or, maybe it was to just 
>> hold the cost down???
>> 
>> I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be 
>> a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station.  Lately I've been 
>> tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well.  However, 
>> I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up.  The lesser 
>> capabilities described above would explain much of that.  I still much 
>> prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3.  It's a great 
>> reason to own both!
>> 
>> So, how do you describe the difference in ten 

[Elecraft] KX2 first impressions and comments

[w4sc]

Managed to snag a KX2 at Dayton and had it on the air late Sunday afternoon.  
Worked a couple of stations on SSB, but mostly listening.  

KX2 will be great for back-packing / very portable ops. Don’t expect KX3 with 
‘roofing filter’ RX performance.

Controls of the KX2 are intuitive and well thought out.  Easy to learn.  Like 
the band change implementation.

Don’t like the main knob, needs a ‘dimple’.  I had issue with knob drag on the 
encoder bearing/panel mount sleeve.  Corrected by removing knob and carefully 
re-installing and leaving required knob to mounting sleeve clearance to stop 
drag.

Speaker can easily be over driven.  AF level set correctly, very good SSB 
performance.  CW is great!

No 6 meters.  I would gladly give up 12 meters for 6 meter coverage.  How about 
a KX2-6,,, Wayne/ Eric??

All you new owners enjoy your KX2.  It is a sweet little radio.

Now, back to 40M / 20M listening.

de Ben W4SC

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Re: [Elecraft] The KX2

[Walter Underwood]

We have a 1991 Miata and a 2013 Mazdaspeed 3, plus a KX3, so I don’t think this 
is a useful analogy. The Miata and the KX3 are both original, clean, minimal 
designs that perform way above their weight.

The KX2 is very obviously a stripped-down, lightweight KX3.

Yes, the lineage goes back through the KX1, the NorCal 40A, and the Sierra. 
That lineage includes the KX3.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On May 23, 2016, at 7:53 PM, EricJ  wrote:
> 
> Is a Miata a stripped down version of an F150 pickup?
> 
> Is an F150 a Miata with room to carry drywall?
> 
> It's pretty obvious from the announcement the KX2 serves a different purpose 
> than the KX3. It's not a smaller anything. It's a different rig for a 
> different purpose.
> 
> Looks to me its lineage is more KX1 and the preceding Trail Friendly Radios 
> than anything else in the Elecraft line.
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com/KX1/N6KR_KX1_History.html
> 
> There's an evolution of rigs you should be comparing it to.
> 
> Eric KE6US
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/23/2016 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has 
>> created quite a stir.  A lot of people are very curious about this rig, 
>> including me.  As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a 
>> KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are.
>> 
>> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a 
>> "downsized" version of the KX3.  I can certainly see how this has stimulated 
>> a lot of interest.  What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does 
>> anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, 
>> radio.  At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter.  That's not 
>> necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. 
>> Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might 
>> gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user.
>> 
>> The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although 
>> the footprint is not quite that much different.  The price is lighter too! 
>> As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage.  SOTA ops probably 
>> will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with just 
>> about all the features a portable op would want or need.
>> 
>> The things you give up are not insignificant.  There is a slight power 
>> differential, which may, or may not, be a concern.  Possibly more of a 
>> concern might be not having roofing filters.  I've become a huge fan of 
>> having those.  Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic 
>> for some.  I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might 
>> be.  With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no 
>> VHF/UHF as well.
>> 
>> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one 
>> for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see 
>> less capability.  Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I 
>> just get nervous about less.  The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only 
>> moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that.  Elecraft 
>> can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that.
>> 
>> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2.  In 
>> their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that 
>> capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm 
>> still disappointed.  Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if 
>> they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that 
>> smaller package--or I assume that was the problem.  Or, maybe it was to just 
>> hold the cost down???
>> 
>> I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be 
>> a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station.  Lately I've been 
>> tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well.  However, 
>> I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up.  The lesser 
>> capabilities described above would explain much of that.  I still much 
>> prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3.  It's a great 
>> reason to own both!
>> 
>> So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less?  Is the KX2 a 
>> stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?  In any event, 
>> there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying 
>> to pick one over the other.  If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably 
>> get a headache trying to make that decision.  Either way you go you are 
>> probably a "winner!"  The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, 
>> and apparently some have already made that decision!  I'm not sure that 
>> would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 

Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Bob Darlington]

Yes, that was it.  I just tested it and sure enough it's the power supply.
I had the idea that it might be the supply only being noisy under load and
that was it.  Confirmed.  The Pi makes the S meter move too, but not
anywhere near what this thing is doing.  Time to get a new supply I guess.

Sorry for reducing the SNR.

-Bob

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Nate Bargmann  wrote:

> * On 2016 23 May 17:05 -0500, Bob Darlington wrote:
> > Hey, a little OT, but I discovered today that my raspberry pi took my
> noise
> > floor from S9 constant (with some peaks higher) down to an S4 with peaks
> > around S5 once I unplugged it.  These things are BAD.  I can't vouch for
> > the r-pi 2 or 3 but I can say that my APRS digipeater is now off the air
> > because of it till I get everything into a shielded metal enclosure.
>
> Actually, I found the wall wart one uses makes a lot of difference.  I
> had a couple to choose from and chose the one that was least noisy.
>
> 73, Nate, N0NB
>
> --
>
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> possible worlds.  The pessimist fears this is true."
>
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Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Matt:
What I was referring to is that with a flat the KX2 shaft is no longer
round, so the set screws can pull the knob off center unless they are
carefully positioned so they pull the knob against the round segment of the
shaft. 

The shaft of the KX2 encoder is slightly smaller than the KX3 encoder -
about 10 mils - so that can contribute a small amount eccentricity as well. 

73, Ron AC7AC

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Maguire
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To: Wes; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a
smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one
point, and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre
points is (R - r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and
the little circle is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is
irrelevant, as the screw is adjusted to meet it wherever it sits.
I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred.
73, Matt VK2RQ

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On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes"  wrote:










Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat.  How could it not
be centered?


On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the
encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft.
>
> Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] The KX2

[Phil Wheeler]

Some good observations, Dale.  A comparison with 
the KX1 might also be pertinent, since that is the 
radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing.


One thing: You said "I can only guess at the 
decreased capability of the optional ATU.  The one 
for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most 
needs, but I just hate to see less capability. 
Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I 
guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen 
nothing to suggest less capability in the ATU vs. 
the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes "7L/7C network 
(KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer 
bands I suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- 
and the spec in the FAQ says "matching range typ. 
20:1 or higher" which seems good enough.


Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the 
KX2?  Seems that would defeat the purpose of a 
small, portable battery-operated rig. But for 
portable ops with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 
so it doesn't matter to me.  Clearly the KX2 is 
not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft 
product line.


As to "So, how do you describe the difference in 
ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down 
version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", 
perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the 
point, Dale :-)


73, Phil W7OX

On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote:

Hi All,

The ink is barely dry on the release 
announcement for the KX2, but it has created 
quite a stir.  A lot of people are very curious 
about this rig, including me.  As a KX3 owner 
already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a 
KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the 
meaningful differences are.


I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to 
make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the 
KX3.  I can certainly see how this has 
stimulated a lot of interest.  What I'm trying 
to figure out is whether or not it does anything 
better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, 
and less capable, radio.  At this point, I'm 
inclined to think the latter.  That's not 
necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a 
better generalization. Nonetheless, what you 
give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you 
might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the 
user.


The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the 
volume) and lighter, although the footprint is 
not quite that much different.  The price is 
lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see 
this as a nice advantage.  SOTA ops probably 
will really appreciate this! You still have a 
very competent radio with just about all the 
features a portable op would want or need.


The things you give up are not insignificant.  
There is a slight power differential, which may, 
or may not, be a concern.  Possibly more of a 
concern might be not having roofing filters.  
I've become a huge fan of having those.  Also, 
losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be 
problematic for some.  I'm not all that 
concerned about no AM or FM, but others might 
be.  With the emphasis on being a "hand held" 
radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well.


I can only guess at the decreased capability of 
the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still 
be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to 
see less capability.  Elecraft ATU's in the K3 
and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get 
nervous about less.  The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 
were only moderately useful, and it was their 
reduced size that caused that.  Elecraft can 
obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need 
some room to do that.


I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not 
mate with the KX2.  In their "FAQ's", Elecraft 
sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that 
capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, 
like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed.  
Personally, I think it would have been a big 
plus if they could have made it work, but again, 
just not enough room in that smaller package--or 
I assume that was the problem.  Or, maybe it was 
to just hold the cost down???


I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, 
and have found the KX3 to be a very effective 
substitute/back-up in their main station.  
Lately I've been tinkering with that same 
process, and it works pretty darned well.  
However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good 
a substitute, or back-up.  The lesser 
capabilities described above would explain much 
of that.  I still much prefer the K3, but I 
don't give up all that much with the KX3.  It's 
a great reason to own both!


So, how do you describe the difference in ten 
words or less?  Is the KX2 a stripped down 
version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?  
In any event, there are sufficient differences 
to require some analysis if you are trying to 
pick one over the other.  If I didn't already 
have a KX3 I could probably get a headache 
trying to make that decision.  Either way you go 
you are probably a "winner!"  The "easy" way may 
be to just conclude you want both, and 
apparently some have already made that 
decision!  I'm not sure that would be my 
decision, 

Re: [Elecraft] The KX2

[EricJ]

Is a Miata a stripped down version of an F150 pickup?

Is an F150 a Miata with room to carry drywall?

It's pretty obvious from the announcement the KX2 serves a different 
purpose than the KX3. It's not a smaller anything. It's a different rig 
for a different purpose.


Looks to me its lineage is more KX1 and the preceding Trail Friendly 
Radios than anything else in the Elecraft line.


http://www.elecraft.com/KX1/N6KR_KX1_History.html

There's an evolution of rigs you should be comparing it to.

Eric KE6US




On 5/23/2016 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote:

Hi All,

The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it 
has created quite a stir.  A lot of people are very curious about this 
rig, including me.  As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the 
bit to get a KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful 
differences are.


I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a 
"downsized" version of the KX3.  I can certainly see how this has 
stimulated a lot of interest.  What I'm trying to figure out is 
whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a 
smaller, and less capable, radio.  At this point, I'm inclined to 
think the latter.  That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems 
to be a better generalization. Nonetheless, what you give up with a 
KX2 may not outweigh what you might gain with a KX3--it depends solely 
on the user.


The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, 
although the footprint is not quite that much different.  The price is 
lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice 
advantage.  SOTA ops probably will really appreciate this! You still 
have a very competent radio with just about all the features a 
portable op would want or need.


The things you give up are not insignificant.  There is a slight power 
differential, which may, or may not, be a concern.  Possibly more of a 
concern might be not having roofing filters.  I've become a huge fan 
of having those.  Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be 
problematic for some.  I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, 
but others might be.  With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, 
some may lament no VHF/UHF as well.


I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The 
one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just 
hate to see less capability.  Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are 
great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.  The ATU's in the 
KX1 and K1 were only moderately useful, and it was their reduced size 
that caused that.  Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but 
they need some room to do that.


I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2.  
In their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting 
that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or 
K3, but I'm still disappointed.  Personally, I think it would have 
been a big plus if they could have made it work, but again, just not 
enough room in that smaller package--or I assume that was the 
problem.  Or, maybe it was to just hold the cost down???


I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 
to be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station.  
Lately I've been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty 
darned well.  However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a 
substitute, or back-up.  The lesser capabilities described above would 
explain much of that.  I still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up 
all that much with the KX3.  It's a great reason to own both!


So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less?  Is the 
KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?  
In any event, there are sufficient differences to require some 
analysis if you are trying to pick one over the other.  If I didn't 
already have a KX3 I could probably get a headache trying to make that 
decision.  Either way you go you are probably a "winner!"  The "easy" 
way may be to just conclude you want both, and apparently some have 
already made that decision!  I'm not sure that would be my decision, 
but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! Hi.


I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2.

73,

Dave W7AQK








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[Elecraft] The KX2

[w7aqk]

Hi All,

The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has 
created quite a stir.  A lot of people are very curious about this rig, 
including me.  As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a 
KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are.


I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a 
"downsized" version of the KX3.  I can certainly see how this has stimulated 
a lot of interest.  What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does 
anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, 
radio.  At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter.  That's not 
necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. 
Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might 
gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user.


The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although 
the footprint is not quite that much different.  The price is lighter too! 
As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage.  SOTA ops probably 
will really appreciate this!  You still have a very competent radio with 
just about all the features a portable op would want or need.


The things you give up are not insignificant.  There is a slight power 
differential, which may, or may not, be a concern.  Possibly more of a 
concern might be not having roofing filters.  I've become a huge fan of 
having those.  Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic 
for some.  I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might 
be.  With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no 
VHF/UHF as well.


I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU.  The one 
for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see 
less capability.  Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I 
just get nervous about less.  The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only 
moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that.  Elecraft 
can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that.


I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2.  In 
their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that 
capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm 
still disappointed.  Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if 
they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that 
smaller package--or I assume that was the problem.  Or, maybe it was to just 
hold the cost down???


I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be 
a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station.  Lately I've been 
tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well.  However, 
I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up.  The lesser 
capabilities described above would explain much of that.  I still much 
prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3.  It's a great 
reason to own both!


So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less?  Is the KX2 a 
stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?  In any event, 
there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying 
to pick one over the other.  If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably 
get a headache trying to make that decision.  Either way you go you are 
probably a "winner!"  The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, 
and apparently some have already made that decision!  I'm not sure that 
would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! 
Hi.


I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2.

73,

Dave W7AQK








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Re: [Elecraft] FDIM presentation

[Lou Aguilar]

http://ec.libsyn.com/p/f/3/f/f3f8a2dad62ece15/elecraftFDIM.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d06ce8337d7c855fb37_id=11745554

On 5/23/2016 8:41 PM, Bruce Nourish wrote:

Any chance Wayne's FDIM presentation was recorded, and if so, whether it
will be posted online at some point?

Bruce
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Re: [Elecraft] Small QRP Xcvr Use Question

[Rick Robinson]

Par/LNR end fedz are a very popular choice. They work well and are easy to
deploy. Several styles to suit your operating preferences. I also like the
Par HF Omni angles. These are good for parks and locations where you can
use a telescopic mast such as a flagpole. This is what I use .

On Monday, May 23, 2016, Doug Hensley  wrote:

> I do not travel very much anymore so I admit I am behind times on
>
> this question but what are you guys with KX1, KX2 or KX3 using for
>
> an antenna in the field, at your hotel or while hiking/biking/etc.
>
>
> Putting a KX1 or KX2 in ones pocket is one thing; putting out a readable
>
> signal on 80 or 40 meters is something else and continues to challenge
>
> even the folks at home with full size rigs.
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your input.
>
>
> 73, Doug W5JV
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] FDIM presentation

[Don Wilhelm]

But that was Eric's presentation, not Wayne's.  Wayne was on an airplane 
when Eric did the FDIM presentation.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 8:48 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

Even any charts he used might be interesting :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 5/23/16 5:41 PM, Bruce Nourish wrote:

Any chance Wayne's FDIM presentation was recorded, and if so, whether it
will be posted online at some point?



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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2016 23 May 17:05 -0500, Bob Darlington wrote:
> Hey, a little OT, but I discovered today that my raspberry pi took my noise
> floor from S9 constant (with some peaks higher) down to an S4 with peaks
> around S5 once I unplugged it.  These things are BAD.  I can't vouch for
> the r-pi 2 or 3 but I can say that my APRS digipeater is now off the air
> because of it till I get everything into a shielded metal enclosure.

Actually, I found the wall wart one uses makes a lot of difference.  I
had a couple to choose from and chose the one that was least noisy.

73, Nate, N0NB

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[Elecraft] Small QRP Xcvr Use Question

[Doug Hensley]

I do not travel very much anymore so I admit I am behind times on

this question but what are you guys with KX1, KX2 or KX3 using for

an antenna in the field, at your hotel or while hiking/biking/etc.


Putting a KX1 or KX2 in ones pocket is one thing; putting out a readable

signal on 80 or 40 meters is something else and continues to challenge

even the folks at home with full size rigs.


Thanks in advance for your input.


73, Doug W5JV






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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Rick WA6NHC]

I'd bet that the location of the file, while running as admin, is not in 
the place when the program is run normally.


Rick nhc


On 5/23/2016 5:55 PM, Paul Christensen wrote:

NR4C gets the gold star.  Fldigi opens fine and syncs with the K3 when "Run
as Administrator." The configuration file was saved as Administrator.

But the reason is?

Paul, W9AC

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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:44 PM
To: Paul Christensen 
Cc: Jerry Moore ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

Where is fldigi software located on your computer?  You must have Write
privileges to save the CONFIG files.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On May 23, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Paul Christensen  wrote:

Dave,

Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once
initialized, it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is

needed again.

Paul, W9AC


On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
Jerry,

Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
solution available.

Paul, W9AC

Paul,

If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
no longer controlled.  Is that correct?



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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Paul Christensen]

NR4C gets the gold star.  Fldigi opens fine and syncs with the K3 when "Run
as Administrator." The configuration file was saved as Administrator.

But the reason is?

Paul, W9AC

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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:44 PM
To: Paul Christensen 
Cc: Jerry Moore ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

Where is fldigi software located on your computer?  You must have Write
privileges to save the CONFIG files. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 23, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Paul Christensen  wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once 
> initialized, it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is
needed again.
> 
> Paul, W9AC
> 
>> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
>> Jerry,
>> 
>> Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple 
>> solution available.
>> 
>> Paul, W9AC
> 
> Paul,
> 
> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them 
> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is 
> no longer controlled.  Is that correct?
> 
> 
> 
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> Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: [Elecraft] FDIM presentation

[Phil Wheeler]

Even any charts he used might be interesting :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 5/23/16 5:41 PM, Bruce Nourish wrote:

Any chance Wayne's FDIM presentation was recorded, and if so, whether it
will be posted online at some point?

Bruce


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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[Phil Wheeler]

Except after some date in the not too distant 
future, upgrade to Windows 10 will not be free but 
cost $100 or so.


I've updated three PCs and two Macs (via BootCamp) 
from Win 7 to Win 10 and I'm very pleased with the 
new OS.


No need for the Classic Shell approach I needed on 
my one Win 8.1 machine.


Phil W7OX

On 5/23/16 5:20 PM, Eric Ross wrote:

I work at a large corporation that generally keeps the technology reasonably 
current and we are still standardized on Win 7 Enterprise.  I have not run into 
any apps that are supported on Win 10 and not supported on Win 7.  The drive to 
upgrade has significantly decreased.  That is why the upgrade nags were 
implemented.  People are not seeing the need to upgrade.

Eric
KB7TD


On May 23, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Phil Kane  wrote:

On 5/23/2016 12:12 AM, F5vjc wrote:


Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps.

I have a 6-year old Dell tower for my business and personal use and a
3-year old Dell laptop for my ham radio use.  Both of them run Win 7 Pro
64 bit.

I tried "upgrading" the laptop to Win 10.  Too much effort on defusing
all of the nasty Microsoft "call home" stuff and auto-updating (I prefer
to see and review each and every "patch" before letting it run).  Even
with ClassicShell (which I use on all of my computers) I could not get
Win 10 to look and behave the way I wanted.  I had to re-install Win 7
on the laptop because it was beyond the 30-day "easy rollback" period
and fortunately I had the "reinstall media" from Dell.

Bottom line - I am sticking to Win 7 as long as I have those computers
and when either needs replacing I will order new ones with Win 7
installed (not-so-secret that one can still do it if one is a good
customer of the supplier).


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402


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[Elecraft] FDIM presentation

[Bruce Nourish]

Any chance Wayne's FDIM presentation was recorded, and if so, whether it
will be posted online at some point?

Bruce
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder

[Wayne Burdick]

István,

The optical encoder used for VFO A on the KX3 was custom designed for Elecraft, 
and may not be generally available. Prior to this, there was no optical encoder 
available from any manufacturer that was this small, while still having 
excellent mechanical properties and long life. Even if you could find it, you'd 
be paying single-unit prices, probably higher than what we charge, because we 
purchase them in large quantities.

In addition, there's a small circuit board pre-attached to the circuit board to 
allow it to be plugged into the control panel board.

You may be able to have the encoder shipped from one of our EU dealers.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On May 23, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Szabó István  wrote:

> Could someone help me who is the manufacturer of the encoder? Elecraft 
> shipping cost is extremely high, same value and size shipping  cost is about 
> 20 USD from CA, Elecraft ships it for about 60 USD. Really strange.
> 
> 73, István ha4zd
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[Elecraft] Different KX2 VFO A knob?

[Wayne Burdick]

Bob,

I strongly recommended *not* putting any other VFO A knob on the KX2. The 
current VFO knob was designed specifically for the KX2, matching the exact 
amount of space available, and keeping it low-profile. 

If you add a knob that's even slightly larger in diameter, it may hit or 
overlay the switches or LCD bezel. If you use a weighted knob, you'll risk 
shortening the lifetime of the VFO A contacting encoder. It's a high-quality 
encoder with a specified lifetime of over 100,000 revolutions, but a weighted 
knob could stress the shaft unnecessarily.

The KX2 has a couple of useful features to minimize the amount of VFO knob 
twisting you need to do to move around the band:

- If RIT and XIT are OFF and the "OFS" LED is lit, then the OFS/VFO B knob will 
move the VFO in coarse steps. (The size of coarse steps is defined by MENU:VFO 
CRS).

- There are at least two tuning rates available in each mode (RATE switch).

- You can jump to a specific frequency using direct frequency entry (FREQ 
switch).

- Scanning can find signals on the band -- even fairly weak ones -- without any 
use of the VFO A knob at all.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



 

On May 23, 2016, at 12:11 PM, dlrwi...@verizon.net wrote:

> Does anyone know if the samller N8BX  VFO knob “B” on the K3/K3S will fit the 
> encoder shaft on the new KX-2? 
> 
> Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S?
> 
> Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood 
> Engineering.
> 
> Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwi...@verizon.net
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[Eric Ross]

I work at a large corporation that generally keeps the technology reasonably 
current and we are still standardized on Win 7 Enterprise.  I have not run into 
any apps that are supported on Win 10 and not supported on Win 7.  The drive to 
upgrade has significantly decreased.  That is why the upgrade nags were 
implemented.  People are not seeing the need to upgrade.

Eric
KB7TD

> On May 23, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Phil Kane  wrote:
> 
> On 5/23/2016 12:12 AM, F5vjc wrote:
> 
>> Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps.
> 
> I have a 6-year old Dell tower for my business and personal use and a
> 3-year old Dell laptop for my ham radio use.  Both of them run Win 7 Pro
> 64 bit.
> 
> I tried "upgrading" the laptop to Win 10.  Too much effort on defusing
> all of the nasty Microsoft "call home" stuff and auto-updating (I prefer
> to see and review each and every "patch" before letting it run).  Even
> with ClassicShell (which I use on all of my computers) I could not get
> Win 10 to look and behave the way I wanted.  I had to re-install Win 7
> on the laptop because it was beyond the 30-day "easy rollback" period
> and fortunately I had the "reinstall media" from Dell.
> 
> Bottom line - I am sticking to Win 7 as long as I have those computers
> and when either needs replacing I will order new ones with Win 7
> installed (not-so-secret that one can still do it if one is a good
> customer of the supplier).
> 
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[Kevin Stover]

I have a couple of home brew computers.
One running Linux has 2-256 Gig SSD's, 32 Gig of Ram and a ridiculously 
fast video card. It's a host for Oracle Virtualbox Virtual Machines 
(Guest OS's, 3 versions of windows, a Slackware install and a month ago 
I installed MSDOS 6.22 for giggles and a little Castle Wolfenstein), and 
one computer running Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate (same hardware as a 
above). I have no reason to upgrade so won't. I will ride the Windows 7 
horse as long as I can.


I absolutely hate forced updates. The first thing I turn off on any 
Windows install is auto-updates. NO patches will be installed on my 
machines without my inspection first. IMHO auto-updates are for people 
who don't care or don't know how to update their machines without MS 
looking over their shoulder. I have seen what mistimed or disordered MS 
patches can do to a network (just last week at work, took three days to 
clean up the mess.)


Remember, these are the same people who brought us Windows Me and Vista. 
Nuff said.



On 5/23/2016 5:25 PM, Phil Kane wrote.

I have a 6-year old Dell tower for my business and personal use and a
3-year old Dell laptop for my ham radio use.  Both of them run Win 7 Pro
64 bit.

I tried "upgrading" the laptop to Win 10.  Too much effort on defusing
all of the nasty Microsoft "call home" stuff and auto-updating (I prefer
to see and review each and every "patch" before letting it run).  Even
with ClassicShell (which I use on all of my computers) I could not get
Win 10 to look and behave the way I wanted.  I had to re-install Win 7
on the laptop because it was beyond the 30-day "easy rollback" period
and fortunately I had the "reinstall media" from Dell.

Bottom line - I am sticking to Win 7 as long as I have those computers
and when either needs replacing I will order new ones with Win 7
installed (not-so-secret that one can still do it if one is a good
customer of the supplier).


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3

[Phil Wheeler]

Oops: I'll order the KXPD2, as much for its 
smaller size than anything: Seems more consistent 
with the philosophy and size of the KX2.


Too many KX this and that :-)

73, Phil

On 5/23/16 4:55 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Thanks, Don. Well, I wish I had a 'soft touch', 
but I'm more of a banger. May have to put add 
weight to the KX2 (or figure out a weighted base 
for it) when using it with a paddle mounted to it.


I'll order the KX2, as much for its smaller size 
than anything: Seems more consistent with the 
philosophy and size of the KX2.


73, Phil W7OX

On 5/23/16 4:08 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Phil,

I would suggest the KXPD2 over the KXPD3.  As 
Eric pointed out in his talk at FDIM, he has 
trouble with the KXPD3 moving even his KX3 
around because the paddles are further away 
from the enclosure that with the KXPD2 design.


Of course, if you have a 'soft touch' on the 
paddles it may not make much of a difference to 
you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare 
these two? I want to order one for my KX2 but, 
aside from size, I don't know the difference.


I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will 
likely just leave it there so want a dedicated 
KX2 paddle.







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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3

[Phil Wheeler]

Thanks, Don. Well, I wish I had a 'soft touch', 
but I'm more of a banger. May have to put add 
weight to the KX2 (or figure out a weighted base 
for it) when using it with a paddle mounted to it.


I'll order the KX2, as much for its smaller size 
than anything: Seems more consistent with the 
philosophy and size of the KX2.


73, Phil W7OX

On 5/23/16 4:08 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Phil,

I would suggest the KXPD2 over the KXPD3.  As 
Eric pointed out in his talk at FDIM, he has 
trouble with the KXPD3 moving even his KX3 
around because the paddles are further away from 
the enclosure that with the KXPD2 design.


Of course, if you have a 'soft touch' on the 
paddles it may not make much of a difference to 
you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare 
these two? I want to order one for my KX2 but, 
aside from size, I don't know the difference.


I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will 
likely just leave it there so want a dedicated 
KX2 paddle.







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Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question

[Matt Maguire]

Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a 
smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one point, 
and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre points is (R - 
r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and the little circle 
is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is irrelevant, as the screw is 
adjusted to meet it wherever it sits.
I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred.
73, Matt VK2RQ

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On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes"  wrote:










Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat.  How could it not be 
centered?


On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the 
> encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft.
>
> Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3

[Don Wilhelm]

Phil,

I would suggest the KXPD2 over the KXPD3.  As Eric pointed out in his 
talk at FDIM, he has trouble with the KXPD3 moving even his KX3 around 
because the paddles are further away from the enclosure that with the 
KXPD2 design.


Of course, if you have a 'soft touch' on the paddles it may not make 
much of a difference to you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare these two? I want to order 
one for my KX2 but, aside from size, I don't know the difference.


I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will likely just leave it there 
so want a dedicated KX2 paddle.




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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Nr4c]

Where is fldigi software located on your computer?  You must have Write 
privileges to save the CONFIG files. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 23, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Paul Christensen  wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once initialized,
> it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again.
> 
> Paul, W9AC
> 
>> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
>> Jerry,
>> 
>> Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
>> solution available.  
>> 
>> Paul, W9AC
> 
> Paul,
> 
> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
> no longer controlled.  Is that correct?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Dave (NK7Z)
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> http://www.nk7z.net
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[Phil Kane]

On 5/23/2016 12:12 AM, F5vjc wrote:

> Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps.

I have a 6-year old Dell tower for my business and personal use and a
3-year old Dell laptop for my ham radio use.  Both of them run Win 7 Pro
64 bit.

I tried "upgrading" the laptop to Win 10.  Too much effort on defusing
all of the nasty Microsoft "call home" stuff and auto-updating (I prefer
to see and review each and every "patch" before letting it run).  Even
with ClassicShell (which I use on all of my computers) I could not get
Win 10 to look and behave the way I wanted.  I had to re-install Win 7
on the laptop because it was beyond the 30-day "easy rollback" period
and fortunately I had the "reinstall media" from Dell.

Bottom line - I am sticking to Win 7 as long as I have those computers
and when either needs replacing I will order new ones with Win 7
installed (not-so-secret that one can still do it if one is a good
customer of the supplier).


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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[Elecraft] [OT ?] Re: SEAPAC in June

[Phil Kane]

 When you are at SeaPac and have nothing else to do on
Saturday at 4pm - catch my presentation on "FCC Rules and Legal Issues"
in the Seaside A room.  I do that one every year - and run it as an
interactive session.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Bob Darlington]

Hey, a little OT, but I discovered today that my raspberry pi took my noise
floor from S9 constant (with some peaks higher) down to an S4 with peaks
around S5 once I unplugged it.  These things are BAD.  I can't vouch for
the r-pi 2 or 3 but I can say that my APRS digipeater is now off the air
because of it till I get everything into a shielded metal enclosure.

-Bob

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Jerry Moore  wrote:

> I run on a raspberry pi under linux. Hardware Comm
>
>
>
> On May 23, 2016 5:17:53 PM EDT, Bob Darlington 
> wrote:
>>
>> Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running before
>> you start fldigi?  Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when
>> closing after you fix the problem?
>>
>> -Bob
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen  wrote:
>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once initialized,
>>> it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Paul, W9AC
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
>>> > Jerry,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
>>> > solution available.
>>> >
>>> > Paul, W9AC
>>>
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
>>> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
>>> no longer controlled.  Is that correct?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Dave (NK7Z)
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>>> http://www.nk7z.net
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[Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3

[Phil Wheeler]

Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare these 
two? I want to order one for my KX2 but, aside 
from size, I don't know the difference.


I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will likely 
just leave it there so want a dedicated KX2 paddle.


73, Phil W7OX
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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Jerry Moore]

I run on a raspberry pi under linux. Hardware Comm


On May 23, 2016 5:17:53 PM EDT, Bob Darlington  wrote:
>Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running
>before
>you start fldigi?  Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when
>closing after you fix the problem?
>
>-Bob
>
>On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen 
>wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once
>initialized,
>> it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed
>again.
>>
>> Paul, W9AC
>>
>> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
>> > Jerry,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no
>simple
>> > solution available.
>> >
>> > Paul, W9AC
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
>> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig
>is
>> no longer controlled.  Is that correct?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> For software/hardware reviews see:
>> http://www.nk7z.net
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[Tony Estep]

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 4:26 PM, VE3NFK  wrote:

> Hi Deni
>
> ...Win 10 c'est bonne avec Classic Shell...

==
et aussi avec Stardock 10, qui donne les fonctions d'ancien desktop
familier, juste comme Classic Shell

Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

[danny . higgins]

No, I always power OFF using the K3S Power Switch.

Regards,

Danny Higgins

From: Nr4c
Sent: 23 May 2016 18:58
To: danny.higgins
Cc: Don Wilhelm; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Are you using the Power switch on the radio or by chance turning OFF the 
power-supply?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 23, 2016, at 2:33 AM, danny.higgins  wrote:
> 
> WSJT not running – K3S not connected to PC.  I still need to reset PTT-KEY 
> after a power cycle – it always goes back to OFF-OFF.  The same thing happens 
> in USB or DATA modes.
> 
> Danny, G3XVR
> 
> From: Don Wilhelm
> Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26
> To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
> 
> Danny,
> 
> Do a test without WSJT running.  Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then 
> cycle power on the K3S.  Does that setting survive the power cycle?  If 
> so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution.
> If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote:
>> I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S 
>> via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data.  Every time I power 
>> the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR – OFF.
>> 
>> Danny, G3XVR
>> 
>> 
>> From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
>> Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>> 
>> Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3.
>> If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the
>> software not running.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
>> Rehovot, Israel
>> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>> 
>>> On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote:
>>> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote:
 That doesn't sound right.  I don't think mine has ever changed.
 Cheers,
 Fred KE7X
 
 
 From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ken
 Arck 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
 
 I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be
 non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to
 OFF - OFF.  I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't
 
 Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and
 that setting reverts.
 
 Ken
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne

[Wes]

I can tell you from first hand testing of both a K3 and a K3S, in addition to 
supply voltage, frequency, drive level, load Z and the phase of the moon all 
effect TX IMD. DO NOT assume that just because you have the supply voltage at 
the high end you are done.  DO NOT assume that good IMD on 80-meters means good 
IMD on 10-meters.  ARRL should learn this.


For those with the equipment and inclination, some measurements might be 
illuminating.  The K3(S) makes it fairly easy since a two-tone generator is 
built in.  All that is needed is a spectrum analyzer to look at the output.  I 
happened to use an SDR-IQ and SpectraVue software, but even a second, carefully 
calibrated and operated receiver will suffice.  It will be laborious but 
informative.  (BTW, my measured data correlated within 1 dB, or less, to that 
measured by Elecraft.  You just have to know what you're doing.)


Wes  N7WS


 On 5/23/2016 12:42 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:

An addition to Jim's comments below.

All 100W rigs, regardless of manufacturer, whether the amp is part of the 
radio or a separate unit, develop significant distortion as the voltage drops. 
We noticed the effect at CQP last year. We were operating on batteries as our 
hosts have a no generator rule. As our batteries got lower, our 3 stations -- 
2 K3s and a KX3 with KXPA100 -- started interfering with each other. The 
problem went away when we replaced the batteries with fresh ones.


This distortion will also affect your signal as received by distant stations, 
so it is undesirable in a rig unless you want a reputation for a bad signal.


One way to be able to get maximum runtime from your batteries is to use a 
voltage booster regulator. I use a N8XJK Boost Regulator from TGE. This device 
boosts the battery voltage to the radio. Mine shows 13.9 volts, receive and 
13.4 volts key down at 100W on 160M, even with relatively low batteries. (It 
does have a low voltage cut off to protect the batteries.)


The N8XJK Boost Regulator does generate some minor birdies on receive, so I 
have it set up to only boost voltage when it senses RF output from the 
transmitter.


73 Bill AE6JV


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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[VE3NFK]

Hi Deni

Comme les autres  Win 10 c'est bonne avec Classic Shell; tous mes programmes
'ham' marche bien.
Mon favori TRX-Manager F6DEX c'est tout capable avec Win 10

73  John VE3NFK



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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Paul Christensen]

>”Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running before you 
>start fldigi?  Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when closing 
>after you fix the problem?

 

-Bob”

 

Physical COM port connected to the K3.  It’s an FTDI USB-toRS232 media 
converter that works fine with anything else connected to the K3.  

 

Yes, have attempted to save the Fldigi configuration in the pop-up a countless 
number of times.

 

Paul, W9AC 

 

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen  > wrote:

Dave,

Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once initialized,
it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again.

Paul, W9AC

On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
> solution available.
>
> Paul, W9AC

Paul,

If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
no longer controlled.  Is that correct?



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[Elecraft] KX3 encoder

[Szabó István]

Could someone help me who is the manufacturer of the encoder? Elecraft 
shipping cost is extremely high, same value and size shipping  cost is 
about 20 USD from CA, Elecraft ships it for about 60 USD. Really strange.


73, István ha4zd

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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Bob Darlington]

Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running before
you start fldigi?  Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when
closing after you fix the problem?

-Bob

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen  wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once initialized,
> it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again.
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
> > solution available.
> >
> > Paul, W9AC
>
> Paul,
>
> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
> no longer controlled.  Is that correct?
>
>
>
> --
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> Dave (NK7Z)
> For software/hardware reviews see:
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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Paul Christensen]

Dave,

Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once initialized,
it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again.

Paul, W9AC

On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
> Jerry,
> 
> Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
> solution available.  
> 
> Paul, W9AC

Paul,

If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
no longer controlled.  Is that correct?



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Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question

[Wes]

Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat.  How could it not be 
centered?



On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the 
encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft.

Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly.

73, Ron AC7AC





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Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question

[Clay Autery]

With a proper lengths set screws (one over, one under) and some
patience, the flat should preclude a centered setup...  as long as the
shaft diameter is the same or pretty close to the VFO B encoder shaft
diameter.

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On 5/23/2016 2:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the 
> encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. 
>
> Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. 
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> dlrwi...@verizon.net
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:11 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question
>
> Does anyone know if the samller N8BX  VFO knob “B” on the K3/K3S will fit the 
> encoder shaft on the new KX-2? 
>
> Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S?
>
> Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood 
> Engineering.
>
> Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwi...@verizon.net 
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Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the 
encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. 

Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. 

73, Ron AC7AC



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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question

Does anyone know if the samller N8BX  VFO knob “B” on the K3/K3S will fit the 
encoder shaft on the new KX-2? 

Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S?

Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood 
Engineering.

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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Dave Cole]

On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
> Jerry,
> 
> Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
> solution available.  
> 
> Paul, W9AC

Paul,

If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
no longer controlled.  Is that correct?



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Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

[n9tf]

Hi Gary, 
  
Firmware 5.33 was the improvement for this. See below in my message. (posted 
earlier this morning). If you have Unsafe mode toggled these settings will not 
default back to OFF-OFF. 
  
Even in the Safe mode, I have noticed the rig needs to have been powered down 
for more than a few seconds/minutes to reset to OFF-OFF. A test I ran this 
morning was to turn off rig "first" then power supply off and kept off for 5 
minutes each, SAFE MODE and UNSAFE MODE, powered up the supply first then the 
K3S, and found in SAFE MODE the PTT-KEY had reset to OFF-OFF, but not in UNSAFE 
MODE. 
  
  


"* PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED: PC applications can activate PTT and 
KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial setup of 
the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous activation of the 
transmitter. This can happen if the computer is turned on after the K3S, or if 
the USB cable is not connected. There is now a "Safe" mode (the default) which 
disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a 
read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and 
turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send 
commands may require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be 
avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S." 

  

73 Gene, N9TF 

K3S 10057 

  

- Original Message -

From: "Gary Smith"  
To: "elecraft"  
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:57:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? 

I just checked on my K3s and after the multiple off/on cycles, the 
PTT-KEY was and still remains set to RTS-DTR and I'm using the latest 
firmware. 

Gary 
KA1J 


>   It may be something unique to the K3S.  My older K3 didn't do it, but 
> the new K3S (#10641) always reverts to PTT KEY OFF-OFF on a power cycle. 
>   must be a glitch in the FW.  It IS completely repeatable as the OP 
> stated.  Definitely call Elecraft Support on it. 
> 
> Jim - W0EB 
> 
> -- Original Message -- 
> From: "Gene Gabry"  
> To: "'danny.higgins'" ; 
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Sent: 5/23/2016 7:17:03 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? 
> 
> >Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running 
> >or rig control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power 
> >down for some period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. 
> >Always done that since day one. I thought there was some update done in 
> >latest firmware to PTT-KEY line to default those to OFF so when PC was 
> >restarted K3S would not go into TX? 
> > 
> > 
> >>> 
> >>>  At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: 
>   That doesn't sound right.  I don't think mine has ever changed. 
>   Cheers, 
>   Fred KE7X 
>  
>    
>   From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ken 
>   Arck  
>   Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM 
>   To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>   Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? 
>  
>   I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be 
>   non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts 
> to 
>   OFF - OFF.  I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't 
>  
>   Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and 
>   that setting reverts. 
>  
>   Ken 
> >> 
> >> 
> 
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[Elecraft] new KX-2 question

[dlrwild1]

Does anyone know if the samller N8BX  VFO knob “B” on the K3/K3S will fit the 
encoder shaft on the new KX-2? 

Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S?

Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood 
Engineering.

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Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

[Gary Smith]

I just checked on my K3s and after the multiple off/on cycles, the 
PTT-KEY was and still remains set to RTS-DTR and I'm using the latest 
firmware.

Gary
KA1J


>   It may be something unique to the K3S.  My older K3 didn't do it, but 
> the new K3S (#10641) always reverts to PTT KEY OFF-OFF on a power cycle. 
>   must be a glitch in the FW.  It IS completely repeatable as the OP 
> stated.  Definitely call Elecraft Support on it.
> 
> Jim - W0EB
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Gene Gabry" 
> To: "'danny.higgins'" ; 
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: 5/23/2016 7:17:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
> 
> >Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running 
> >or rig control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power 
> >down for some period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. 
> >Always done that since day one. I thought there was some update done in 
> >latest firmware to PTT-KEY line to default those to OFF so when PC was 
> >restarted K3S would not go into TX?
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>  At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote:
>   That doesn't sound right.  I don't think mine has ever changed.
>   Cheers,
>   Fred KE7X
> 
>   
>   From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ken
>   Arck 
>   Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM
>   To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>   Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
> 
>   I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be
>   non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts 
> to
>   OFF - OFF.  I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't
> 
>   Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and
>   that setting reverts.
> 
>   Ken
> >>
> >>
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne

[Edward R Cole]

Mike,

Within 2-3w based on RF ammeter reading of 1.40 amps that match 
I^2*R=100w.  50-MHz 50w and HF-100w Bird elements were within 1w 
agreement at 50w output on 6m.  And long use of the meter on many 
bands with multiple rigs.


Of course Bird rates +/- 5% of full reading which would be +/- 5w but 
then if 72w reading were actually 77w then the amp is outputting 117w 
on 20m.  Also Bird appears to be good agreement with the KVPA-100 Bar 
meter which reads 70 on 6m, and the power meter on my Drake MN2000 
antenna tuner shows same output as the Bird.


Input SWR of the amp is 1.4 on 6m vs 1.0 on HF which may suggest 
something. I am going to swap out coax lines everywhere and 
re-measure.  But I had also assumed the Astron was running 14.2v from 
measurement years ago when installed, so may have shifted down with aging.


72w vs 80w is nitpicking but I had hoped it would show specs on all 
bands considering its cost.  Interesting that 6m takes nearly twice 
the drive power that is needed on HF.  Perhaps the limiting factor is 
the matching transformers.  If so that is a disappointment.


6m band is most demanding with often weak-signal conditions so every 
watt is important.  I traded my 150w Mirage 6m amp to buy the 
KXPA-100 realizing that it was rated at nearly half the output on 
6m.  I plan some improvements to my 6m station this year which will 
compensate: 1) adding a second 6-element yagi, 2) finishing a 1100w 
6m amplifier which can be run at 800w on SSB with 8w drive from my 
KX3.  But the KXPA-100 will likely be used for normal daily use and 
QRO reserved for extreme DX operating (including eme and ms).


If I find the issue was with coax cables I will report that after 
testing.  Also will provide measurements after raising Astron 50A to 14.2v.


73, Ed - KL7UW


How accurate do you believe the Bird to be?

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Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

[Nr4c]

Are you using the Power switch on the radio or by chance turning OFF the 
power-supply?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 23, 2016, at 2:33 AM, danny.higgins  wrote:
> 
> WSJT not running – K3S not connected to PC.  I still need to reset PTT-KEY 
> after a power cycle – it always goes back to OFF-OFF.  The same thing happens 
> in USB or DATA modes.
> 
> Danny, G3XVR
> 
> From: Don Wilhelm
> Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26
> To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
> 
> Danny,
> 
> Do a test without WSJT running.  Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then 
> cycle power on the K3S.  Does that setting survive the power cycle?  If 
> so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution.
> If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote:
>> I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S 
>> via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data.  Every time I power 
>> the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR – OFF.
>> 
>> Danny, G3XVR
>> 
>> 
>> From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
>> Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>> 
>> Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3.
>> If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the
>> software not running.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
>> Rehovot, Israel
>> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>> 
>>> On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote:
>>> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote:
 That doesn't sound right.  I don't think mine has ever changed.
 Cheers,
 Fred KE7X
 
 
 From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ken
 Arck 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
 
 I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be
 non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to
 OFF - OFF.  I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't
 
 Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and
 that setting reverts.
 
 Ken
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] To new KX2 owners

[Jim Finan]

Shiny new KX2 arrived today‎! 

Ordered from website Thursday, shipped Friday, arrived on Monday. Wasn't 
expecting it so fast. 

Options ordered separately came installed.

Now the fun begins...

73,

Jim

AB4AC 

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  Original Message  
From: Wayne Burdick
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:37 PM
To: Charley
Cc: Elecraft Mailer; k...@yahoogroups.com; ya...@dupuie.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] To new KX2 owners


On May 21, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Charley  wrote:

> Hi Wayne-- just bought the kx2 from Ron. What is max voltage the kx2 will 
> shut down at ? My kx3 will shut down at 16 volts. Tnx Charly W6CUP 

Should be approximately the same.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> 
> Sent from my iPad It's Me Charly--(life is to short to fly Coach)
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 19:43, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com [KX3] 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.elecraft.com
>> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 10:28 PM, "Scott Dupuie ya...@dupuie.com [KX3]" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> W8O/SW-012 - Hamilton County HP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Closest by one mile. Next is W8O/CT-001.
>>> 
>>> Do I win a new KX2?
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> AK5SD
>> 
>> No, sorry. I was hoping to sneak out to activate it ;)
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> 
>>> 
 On May 21, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com [KX3] 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we 
 brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd 
 brought more :)
 
 I know many of you have already unboxes the radios and are putting them on 
 the air. If you have early questions or comments, feel free to send them 
 to me directly, and/or post here. There are many knowledgable KX2 field 
 testers lurking on our lists, including some top-flight SOTA operators. 
 
 Trivia question: what's the closest SOTA peak to Hara Arena?
 
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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Paul Christensen]

Jerry,

Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
solution available.  

Paul, W9AC

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Moore [mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:13 PM
To: 'Paul Christensen' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

I create a macro in FLDigi and just click that to setup the rig/program

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Christensen
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:34 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

I have Fldigi configured with a K3 using a .XTML file.  No matter how I try
and save the configuration in Fldigi, each PSK session requires
re-initializing under Fldigi's CONFIGURATION> RIG CONTROL setting.  I've
already tried checking/unchecking several menu "ticks" including unchecking
"reset configuration at exit."

Any idea why the configuration file cannot be saved in Fldigi's
CONFIGURATION sub-menu?  I simply want to start fldigi without having to
"fiddle" with the configuration menu each time a fldigi PSK session is
started.  

Does Flrig get around this limitation?  

Paul, W9AC


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[Elecraft] Question to the group re Info Sources

[Dauer, Edward]

Gene's note about the PTT/Key line question, and the current discussion of 
DC voltage vs amplifier output power, raise a question I have been mulling 
for a while.  An enormous amount of information develops on this reflector 
over time - some of it due to F/W changes, as the PTT issue has, and some 
of it just adds to what’s available in the current manuals and texts as 
odd problems and questions come up and get debated and answered.

I personally find searching the reflector archives clunky at best, even 
using the Google-first method, though that’s better than word-searching 
the archives themselves.  Would there be any value to having an updatable 
collection of some sort, kind of like the old QST “Hints & Kinks”, 
gathering up the info developed here but organized in some topically 
accessible way?  

I have been considering this as a post-retirement project, but don’t want 
to do it if what’s already available works well enough.  And while I am 
not an EE or anything like it, I have had a conversation about partnering 
with a familiar name who is (but who is still thinking about it and so 
remains unnamed.  Having him in on the project is a sine qua non for me.)  
If we do it I would want it to be “crowd sourced” in the sense that 
suggestions for topics and a way of selecting among replies would come 
from the users, on some other facility so we don’t tie up the reflector’s 
bandwidth.

No commitment here to do it, yet; and life has a way of interfering with 
even the best laid plans.  But I thought I’d ask if there would be any 
value in our thinking about it more seriously . . . or would it be 
superfluous?

Ted, KN1CBR


>
>--
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 07:30:02 -0500
>From: "Gene Gabry" 
>To: "'danny.higgins'" ,
>   
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>Message-ID: <005e01d1b4ee$d47be300$7d73a900$@net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="UTF-8"
>
>Check the updates to latest firmware version. There is a safe mode and 
>Unsafe mode for the PTT-Key line. In Unsafe mode PTT-Key line should not 
>turn off.
>
>* PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED:  PC applications can activate 
>PTT and KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, 
>initial setup of the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or 
>continuous activation of the transmitter. This can happen if the computer 
>is turned on after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There 
>is now a "Safe" mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until 
>the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a read of the rig's VFO 
>frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap 
>'1' to select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S 
>off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send commands may 
>require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be avoided by 
>turning the PC on before the K3S.
>
>Gene, N9TF
>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[Wes]

Personally, I'm sticking with Win 7 for as long as I can.

I have a few computers:

1) Aged Toshiba laptop with Win XP that has a parallel port for running my N2PK 
network analyze.  No wi-fi in this one anymore.


2) Lenovo T400 upgraded to SSD running Win 7 Home 32 bit that is the shack 
computer for logging, RTTY, SDR-IQ bandscope, etc.


3) HP Elitebook upgraded to SSD with Win 7 Pro on the workbench/field to run 
DG8SAQ network analyzer.  I tried the "free" Win 10 on this one.  It worked okay 
but issues which follow caused me to roll it back.


4) Dell desktop, also upgraded to SSD, Win 7 Home. Lots of backup storage for 
photos, banking, doss, etc.


5) Fiance's HP laptop still running Vista.

6) New HP laptop delivered with Win 10 that is supposed to replace #5.

All of these (except for #1) are networked via local Wi-Fi.  When she fires up 
with the new Win 10 machine, it totally takes over my network.  This thing is so 
intrusive as to be unbelievable.  It's pathetic when you have to install 
programs to find all of the Windows "phone home"  hooks and disable them. I'm 
sure there are many that are still running.  I can only assume that Microsoft 
has scoured my complete network and saved everything away so NSA can find it all 
in one place.




 On 5/23/2016 12:12 AM, F5vjc wrote:

Hi, I have an Elecraft K line station and up to now have been running all
my software on an aging Win 7 32 bit machine. No real problems but I'm in
the process of building an updated PC and have a dilemma.  Do I go with Win
7 Pro 64 Bit or Win 10  for the OS?

I know some of you will have taken this path already, so how do you find
WIN 10 with typical Ham radio software? I run Win4K3, N1MM, HRD,  Log4OM,
CW Skimmer,  NaP3 and numerous other Ham radio stuff.

I have Win 10 on my laptop (free update from Win 7) but not used for the
Ham shack and find it rather irritating,  but this is probably due to
unfamiliarity.

Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps.


Any advice appreciated, thanks.

73,  Deni - F5VJC
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[Elecraft] OT- Buyer Bware

[Joel Black]

Folks,

A few days ago, I put out a solicitation on this reflector and the QRZ.com “for 
sale” forums for a PX3. I have read several stories of odd dealings with *some* 
sellers on QRZ.com about items not delivered or folks, otherwise, being 
scammed. I think I was almost a victim.

I have been a member of PayPal for a long time. I only ever use the “Pay for 
goods and services” method for sending money to people who I do not know. I’m 
not sure that I’ve *ever* used the friends and family method to send money to 
anyone. That said, it is my understanding that sending to friend and family 
offers no protection for either party.

Use your instincts and if something feels wrong, it usually is.

I received an email from someone offering for sale their PX3. It said the PX3 
was in superb condition from a smoke-free home. It was signed, “73.” That’s it. 
No callsign and no name except what showed up in the email address. I asked for 
pictures, if it had been used outside, the callsign, and preferred method of 
payment.

The next email contained a picture and a callsign. I will not share the 
callsign as I don’t personally think it is from that person and I don’t want to 
ruin someone’s reputation without irrefutable proof. Still no preferred method 
of payment.

This went on for a couple of emails until it came to him requesting payment via 
“friends and family” to an email address not associated with the one he was 
using. That’s fine, my PayPal email address is not the one I use for other 
stuff. I sent payment but I used the “Pay for goods and services.” After about 
a day, I was told he tried to transfer it around and couldn’t get it so he 
refunded it. I verified it was back in my account and then I told him I would 
only pay for it using the method described and told him I didn’t want anything 
else to do with him. I have not heard back.

Not sure there is anything I can do legally (since no crime came to 
completion). I only post this here to make *sure* that you use the protections 
PayPal affords its users. I have never had a problem with PayPal although I’m 
sure there are some here who have.

I don’t post this to start a long email chain only to let you know what almost 
happened to me. We have a saying at work - “Experience is what you get when you 
don’t get what you wanted.”

No need to reply to the reflector with this. If you have any comments, you can 
send them directly to me.

Oh, yep, I’m still looking for a used PX3 from a smoke-free home in great 
condition ;)

73,
Joel - W4JBB
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] To new KX2 owners

[Wayne Burdick]

On May 21, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Charley  wrote:

> Hi Wayne-- just bought the kx2 from Ron. What is max voltage the kx2 will 
> shut down at ? My kx3 will shut down at 16 volts.  Tnx Charly W6CUP 

Should be approximately the same.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> 
> Sent from my iPad It's Me Charly--(life is to short to fly Coach)
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 19:43, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com [KX3] 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.elecraft.com
>> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 10:28 PM, "Scott Dupuie ya...@dupuie.com [KX3]" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> W8O/SW-012 - Hamilton County HP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Closest by one mile. Next is W8O/CT-001.
>>> 
>>> Do I win a new KX2?
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> AK5SD
>> 
>> No, sorry. I was hoping to sneak out to activate it ;)
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> 
>>> 
 On May 21, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com [KX3] 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we 
 brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd 
 brought more :)
 
 I know many of you have already unboxes the radios and are putting them on 
 the air. If you have early questions or comments, feel free to send them 
 to me directly, and/or post here. There are many knowledgable KX2 field 
 testers lurking on our lists, including some top-flight SOTA operators. 
 
 Trivia question: what's the closest SOTA peak to Hara Arena?
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 http://www.elecraft.com
 
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[Elecraft] Regarding field antennas

[Wayne Burdick]

Whip antennas like the MFJ1820T are great for quick deployment, and you *can* 
make QSOs on them, especially when a band is open and on the higher bands. 
However, you'll find that a long (25'+) wire, supported by a tree or pole, will 
nearly always work better. 

In either case you also must have a counterpoise wire, laid on the ground or 
supported by another tree or pole in roughly the opposite direction. Lacking a 
counterpoise, your transmit losses will be some 15 to 20 dB higher.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne

[Jim Brown]

On Mon,5/23/2016 6:36 AM, brian wrote:


1 dB is generally agreed upon to be the minimum detectible difference 
in audio that people can detect.


Of course, these measurements don't include QRM, QSB or AGC action.


Exactly right on both counts. That "generally agreed" is actually the 
result of research done nearly a century ago.


For absolute level (loudness), it takes a change of 6-10 dB to be 
perceived as "twice as loud" or "half as loud." But when the desired 
signal is near the level of noise or other signals, a change of only a 
dB or two can make a BIG difference in whether or not we make the QSO. 
One of the things I did professionally was mix live sound, both for 
sound reinforcement and recording/broadcast. When a given instrument or 
voice needed to be louder to balance well, the needed change was rarely 
more than a dB or two unless I had the mix very wrong to begin with or a 
musician changed something a lot (like moving too far from the mic, or 
playing a different instrument).


So -- when conditions are marginal (on the edge of the other guy's 
noise), every dB matters. That's why the best operators work to optimize 
their antenna systems and squeezing every last dB of loss out of the coax.


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 at SEAPAC in June ?

[Phil Hystad]

Great, Hope to see you there and say “Hi”.

73, phil, K7PEH


> On May 23, 2016, at 8:20 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Absolutely! 
> 
> I'll personally be there too. 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Eric ( in the air coming back from Dayton)
> elecraft.com 
> ---
> Sent from my iPhone 6S
> 
> On May 23, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Phil Hystad  > wrote:
> 
>> Eric or Wayne:
>> 
>> I assume that there will be a KX2 or two to see, hold, handle, touch, 
>> spindle, and fold at the SEAPAC ham-fest on Saturday, June 4th.

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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Jerry Moore]

I create a macro in FLDigi and just click that to setup the rig/program

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Christensen
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:34 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

I have Fldigi configured with a K3 using a .XTML file.  No matter how I try
and save the configuration in Fldigi, each PSK session requires
re-initializing under Fldigi's CONFIGURATION> RIG CONTROL setting.  I've
already tried checking/unchecking several menu "ticks" including unchecking
"reset configuration at exit."

Any idea why the configuration file cannot be saved in Fldigi's
CONFIGURATION sub-menu?  I simply want to start fldigi without having to
"fiddle" with the configuration menu each time a fldigi PSK session is
started.  

Does Flrig get around this limitation?  

Paul, W9AC


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne

[Mike Reublin NF4L]

How accurate do you believe the Bird to be?

73, Mike NF4L

> On May 23, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Edward R Cole  wrote:
> 
> I am getting 100w on all HF bands with about 4w drive.  Supply voltage is 
> 13.71v in Rx and runs 13.12v with 100w output and 13.07v with 110w output 
> with 5.2w drive (tests on 14-MHz into a Bird Power meter (100H) and Bird 
> Load).
> I compared the reading of the 100H element at 50w on 6m with a 50A element 
> with nearly identical reading.
> 
> But on 6m it takes 7.2w drive and I only see 72w output at 13.15v.  Advancing 
> drive higher engages the auto-ATT, so it would suggest drive is high enough.
> 
> A little disappointed that 6m did not develop output per spec (80w) though I 
> guess no one would note the difference of 72 vs 80.  I am running a 50A 
> Astron PS which indicates 13.71v at the PS terminal  I have not measured what 
> that is under load of the KXPA-100 as PS terminals are difficult to reach.  
> Voltage measured with Fluke model 17B+.
> 
> I may try adjusting the Astron to 14.2v to see if that will improve output; 
> assuming similar 0.6v drop under load would result in 13.6v.
> 
> I substituted a No.10 PP power cord for the No.12 cord provided with the amp 
> with no discernable difference.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
>"Kits made by KL7UW"
> Dubus Mag business:
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[Elecraft] OT: Windows 10, HRD

[Ken G Kopp]

Works fine here.  Now, if HRD had the ability to track US Counties  (:-(

73

K0PP
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[Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Paul Christensen]

I have Fldigi configured with a K3 using a .XTML file.  No matter how I try
and save the configuration in Fldigi, each PSK session requires
re-initializing under Fldigi's CONFIGURATION> RIG CONTROL setting.  I've
already tried checking/unchecking several menu "ticks" including unchecking
"reset configuration at exit."

Any idea why the configuration file cannot be saved in Fldigi's
CONFIGURATION sub-menu?  I simply want to start fldigi without having to
"fiddle" with the configuration menu each time a fldigi PSK session is
started.  

Does Flrig get around this limitation?  

Paul, W9AC


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Powerpole stuck

[Bob G3PJT]

Yes this was a new lead, just made up. I have now managed to get the 
black connector out. and the red cable came out with the blade attached 
so the red housing is stuck. I looked at the pics in the XV manual and I 
cant see how the two parts could lock.

73 Bob G3PJT

On 23/05/2016 16:14, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bob,

I suspect that one of the APP connectors either was not assembled 
correctly or the contact blade is bent - I refuse to speculate on how 
that might have happened without looking at it, but in any case, I 
suspect the contact blades of the two connectors are interlocked in a 
manner they were not intended to be.


If it works, leave it alone for now unless you have a stock of APP 
connectors.  If you do not have the APP connectors, obtain 2 sets 
(hopefully you only will need one set, but 'just in case'). Operate 
'as-is' until you have those parts in hand.


Then having the spare APP connectors, separate the 2 connectors by any 
means possible - in other words grasp the external one with pliers and 
pull harder until it comes apart.  You do not care if you damage the 
housings in the process because you have replacements.


Once they are apart, check the contact blades in the ones mounted in 
the KPA100 as well as the ones on the power cable.  The contact blades 
should be locked over the spring fingers in the housing (you should 
not be able to see the spring fingers).  There is a good cutaway 
diagram of the correct insertion of the contact blades on page 37 of 
the XV transverter assembly manual and on page 38 are some good photos 
showing right and wrong insertion of the contact blades.
If you have to replace the housings or the contact blades, you have 
the 'spare' parts to do the job.


If you need to replace the fancy contact blades in the KPA100 itself, 
you may use the #14 AWG wire (or British close equivalent) and mount 
them like the ones for the XV transverters - or you could order the 
special contact blades.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 10:26 AM, Bob G3PJT wrote:

Hi
Just plugged the power lead powerpole into the back of my K2/100 and 
now I cant get it out!

It feels like a very solid lock in.
Any ideas or is this a write off - I could crunch the connectors but 
that seems like a last but hopefully not the only resort.

And more importantly why has this happened?






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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[Gordon LaPoint]

Deni,
I use Win 10 and prefer it.  Win 10 is more stable and uses less 
memory then Win 7.
You can install the FREE  Classic Shell (see: 
http://www.classicshell.net/ ) to have the same program start menu setup 
as Win 7 on the Win 10 system.  I don't use or like the Metro interface.

Gordon - N1MGO

On 05/23/2016 03:12 AM, F5vjc wrote:

Hi, I have an Elecraft K line station and up to now have been running all
my software on an aging Win 7 32 bit machine. No real problems but I'm in
the process of building an updated PC and have a dilemma.  Do I go with Win
7 Pro 64 Bit or Win 10  for the OS?

I know some of you will have taken this path already, so how do you find
WIN 10 with typical Ham radio software? I run Win4K3, N1MM, HRD,  Log4OM,
CW Skimmer,  NaP3 and numerous other Ham radio stuff.

I have Win 10 on my laptop (free update from Win 7) but not used for the
Ham shack and find it rather irritating,  but this is probably due to
unfamiliarity.

Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps.


Any advice appreciated, thanks.

73,  Deni - F5VJC
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 at SEAPAC in June ?

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

Absolutely! 

I'll personally be there too. 

73,

Eric ( in the air coming back from Dayton)
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> On May 23, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
> Eric or Wayne:
> 
> I assume that there will be a KX2 or two to see, hold, handle, touch, 
> spindle, and fold at the SEAPAC ham-fest on Saturday, June 4th.
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Re: [Elecraft] [ KX2] KXBT2 Charger

[Wayne Burdick]

There may be DC chargers that are compatible with the KX2's battery pack. We're 
looking at a few. Until then I highly recommend using our inexpensive fast 
charger, which is designed specifically for this application, with all required 
monitoring and control circuitry to ensure safe operation.

It is not possible to charge the KX2's batteries internally. See cautions in 
the documentation included with the battery and charger.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 19, 2016, at 8:54 AM, "Jerry Moore"  wrote:

> KXBT2 Charger: Can the charger be connected to a DC power source without an
> inverter to charge the KXBT2 Li-Ion battery pack? Considering the intended
> POU is pedestrian I can see a great need/use for solar to power the
> charger/recharge the battery pack. Depending upon circuit design it should
> be doable. 
> 
> KXBT2 Charger: Can the charger be used to power the KX2 Radio in the absence
> of a battery pack? Might be a good feature to be able to concurrently
> recharge the battery while also powering the radio. Remember the advertised
> use is pedestrian style. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm very intrigued by the KX2 and have a specific use in mind..e.g. camping
> with no access or availability of power mains. While using an inverter via
> solar is an option the losses due to conversion efficiencies become too
> great to be worthwhile in my view.
> 
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry Moore, AE4PB
> 
> K3S owner. 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Powerpole stuck

[Don Wilhelm]

Bob,

I suspect that one of the APP connectors either was not assembled 
correctly or the contact blade is bent - I refuse to speculate on how 
that might have happened without looking at it, but in any case, I 
suspect the contact blades of the two connectors are interlocked in a 
manner they were not intended to be.


If it works, leave it alone for now unless you have a stock of APP 
connectors.  If you do not have the APP connectors, obtain 2 sets 
(hopefully you only will need one set, but 'just in case'). Operate 
'as-is' until you have those parts in hand.


Then having the spare APP connectors, separate the 2 connectors by any 
means possible - in other words grasp the external one with pliers and 
pull harder until it comes apart.  You do not care if you damage the 
housings in the process because you have replacements.


Once they are apart, check the contact blades in the ones mounted in the 
KPA100 as well as the ones on the power cable.  The contact blades 
should be locked over the spring fingers in the housing (you should not 
be able to see the spring fingers).  There is a good cutaway diagram of 
the correct insertion of the contact blades on page 37 of the XV 
transverter assembly manual and on page 38 are some good photos showing 
right and wrong insertion of the contact blades.
If you have to replace the housings or the contact blades, you have the 
'spare' parts to do the job.


If you need to replace the fancy contact blades in the KPA100 itself, 
you may use the #14 AWG wire (or British close equivalent) and mount 
them like the ones for the XV transverters - or you could order the 
special contact blades.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 10:26 AM, Bob G3PJT wrote:

Hi
Just plugged the power lead powerpole into the back of my K2/100 and 
now I cant get it out!

It feels like a very solid lock in.
Any ideas or is this a write off - I could crunch the connectors but 
that seems like a last but hopefully not the only resort.

And more importantly why has this happened?



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 package for sale

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

While I have enjoyed my KX3, I have sprung for the smaller KX2.  I know I'm
giving up some features, but for me, the small size is more important.

The package includes the KX3 with internal KX3T tuner and a set of
"Eneloops" which have been recharged at most 12 times.
Also included are the after-market end caps and lexan cover.  I'll even
through in the bubble printer cartridge shipping padder that I always use
when I put it in the suitcase.

This radio has spent 99.9% of its life at home and only made only a few
trips, securely padded, when we visit our kids and (civilized??) relatives.

Never dropped in an alligator pit, fallen overboard, or used to pound in
tent stakes, it IS in excellent condition.

This set-up would run about $1400 if bought new.  I will ship the package in
the US for $1150.

I'll take some pics of it all so you can see the condx.

73, Charlie k3ICH



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[Elecraft] KX2 at SEAPAC in June ?

[Phil Hystad]

Eric or Wayne:

I assume that there will be a KX2 or two to see, hold, handle, touch, spindle, 
and fold at the SEAPAC ham-fest on Saturday, June 4th.

PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

[danny . higgins]

Yes, running in UNSAFE mode remembers the PTT-KEY setting. 

Danny, G3XVR

From: Gene Gabry
Sent: 23 May 2016 13:30
To: 'danny.higgins'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Check the updates to latest firmware version. There is a safe mode and Unsafe 
mode for the PTT-Key line. In Unsafe mode PTT-Key line should not turn off.

* PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED:  PC applications can activate PTT and 
KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial setup of 
the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous activation of the 
transmitter. This can happen if the computer is turned on after the K3S, or if 
the USB cable is not connected. There is now a "Safe" mode (the default) which 
disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a 
read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and 
turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send 
commands may require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be 
avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S.

Gene, N9TF

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gene Gabry
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:17 AM
To: 'danny.higgins'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running or rig 
control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power down for some 
period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. Always done that since 
day one. I thought there was some update done in latest firmware to PTT-KEY 
line to default those to OFF so when PC was restarted K3S would not go into TX?

Gene, N9TF

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
danny.higgins
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:34 AM
To: Don Wilhelm; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

WSJT not running – K3S not connected to PC.  I still need to reset PTT-KEY 
after a power cycle – it always goes back to OFF-OFF.  The same thing happens 
in USB or DATA modes.

Danny, G3XVR

From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26
To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Danny,

Do a test without WSJT running.  Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then cycle 
power on the K3S.  Does that setting survive the power cycle?  If so, it is not 
a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution.
If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote:
> I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via 
> the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data.  Every time I power the K3S 
> OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR – OFF.
>
> Danny, G3XVR
>
>
> From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>
> Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3.
> If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the 
> software not running.
>
> 73,
> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Rehovot, Israel
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>
> On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote:
>> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>> That doesn't sound right.  I don't think mine has ever changed.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Fred KE7X
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ken 
>>> Arck 
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>>>
>>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be 
>>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to 
>>> OFF - OFF.  I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't
>>>
>>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and 
>>> that setting reverts.
>>>
>>> Ken
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[Bill]

If you built your own desktop under Win 7, it should migrate right along 
with the rest of your files.


I have had resolution issues with Win 10 and it was a bear to fix. As a 
result, I run Win 7. The problem was an aberration that came with one of 
the forced updates.


I do all backups by use of clone SSDs and also have updated one of the 
clones to Win 10. That assures having no licensing problems in the event 
of a change to Win 10 in the future.


Is Win 10 friendly? No, I would say it is not as easy to manipulate as 
Win 7, but that is my preference. Win 10 will attempt to have you only 
use MS products in your operation and to that purpose, some updates will 
change your personal program/app selections from your choosing back to 
their's.


The free version (only version I will use) of HRD performs well on Win 
10. I have had issues with drivers on Dell printers, however, have 
updated to HP and the problem went away. Dell's idea of upgrading 
drivers is to purchase a new Dell printer. Not acceptable to me.


If you do upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10 and don't like it, you can revert 
back to Win 7. Doing so should protect your licensing rights for a later 
free upgrade.


Eventually, we will all HAVE to upgrade to Win 10. New software will be 
written to only operate under Win 10 and the same with new hardware. You 
will become part of the Borge - one way or the other.


Bill W2BLC K-Line


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[Elecraft] K2 Powerpole stuck

[Bob G3PJT]

Hi
Just plugged the power lead powerpole into the back of my K2/100 and now 
I cant get it out!

It feels like a very solid lock in.
Any ideas or is this a write off - I could crunch the connectors but 
that seems like a last but hopefully not the only resort.

And more importantly why has this happened?

73 Bob G3PJT

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Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

[danny . higgins]

Yes, I reported that one just after I got S/N 10105. It worked at home using 
the USB interface, but when I went to IOTA last year it powered up in TX mode 
when the USB lead was not connected.  It took a few phone calls to sort it out, 
but once we knew what the problem was it was easy to get round.

I still have a problem here.  If I configure the K3S to operate via the USB 
lead, then power down, remove the USB lead, power back up then set the config 
for PTT_KEY to be DTR-OFF, then the K3S immediately goes into TX and stays 
there until I re-connect the USB lead.  It sounds as though there is still 
something not quite right with the keying logic yet.

Danny, G3XVR

From: Gene Gabry
Sent: 23 May 2016 13:17
To: 'danny.higgins'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running or rig 
control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power down for some 
period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. Always done that since 
day one. I thought there was some update done in latest firmware to PTT-KEY 
line to default those to OFF so when PC was restarted K3S would not go into TX?

Gene, N9TF

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
danny.higgins
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:34 AM
To: Don Wilhelm; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

WSJT not running – K3S not connected to PC.  I still need to reset PTT-KEY 
after a power cycle – it always goes back to OFF-OFF.  The same thing happens 
in USB or DATA modes.

Danny, G3XVR

From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26
To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Danny,

Do a test without WSJT running.  Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then cycle 
power on the K3S.  Does that setting survive the power cycle?  If so, it is not 
a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution.
If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote:
> I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via 
> the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data.  Every time I power the K3S 
> OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR – OFF.
>
> Danny, G3XVR
>
>
> From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>
> Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3.
> If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the 
> software not running.
>
> 73,
> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Rehovot, Israel
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>
> On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote:
>> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>> That doesn't sound right.  I don't think mine has ever changed.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Fred KE7X
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ken 
>>> Arck 
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>>>
>>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be 
>>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to 
>>> OFF - OFF.  I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't
>>>
>>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and 
>>> that setting reverts.
>>>
>>> Ken
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[Elecraft] New KX2

[Joe W2KJ]

Howdy Gang:

Interested in hearing from those new KX2 users on their experiences with the 
little rig to date.

Especially interested in KX2 owners who also own a KX3 who can provide comments 
on the similarities/differences in performance between the two rigs.

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[Bill W4ZV]

I'd go with Windows 10 but load the freeware classicshell.net Windows 7
option.  No silly Tiles, Charms, etc. and you get the traditional W7
interface with the added benefits of W10 (better security, automatic
updates, automatic maintenance, etc.)  

I had 2 older Vista laptops that were converted to W7 ($75 upgrade) and then
W10 (free) and they are now great.  I also had 2 Win 8 laptops that were
converted very easily to W10.  Now everything is W10 using the same
classicshell interface.

73,  Bill  W4ZV



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Re: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[Ian - Ham]

Deni,

I upgraded all supported computers (I have one Dell laptop which is not
supported for Windows 10) in my home to Windows 10 months ago, and that
includes my shack computer. As an IT consultant, I have to stay on top of
changes Microsoft makes. I have had no issues with any of the ham radio
software I run on my shack computer. All are running fine under Windows 10.
I run all the relevant Elecraft utilities for my K-line, KAT500, and KPA500;
N1MM Logger+; VE7CC spotter; HRD; and probably a couple of other
applications I'm forgetting. In fact, I am a beta tester and evangelist for
HRD and was just with their team in Dayton. HRD is developed under Windows
10 and was being demoed on Windows 10 computers at Dayton, so if you have
issues with that application, you should open a ticket with them. My
apologies to any who are offended by the slightly off-topic diversion there.

The short answer, Deni, is you should not have any issues with the major
amateur radio applications under Windows 10.

73 es gud dx,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038
PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of F5vjc
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:13 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

Hi, I have an Elecraft K line station and up to now have been running all my
software on an aging Win 7 32 bit machine. No real problems but I'm in the
process of building an updated PC and have a dilemma.  Do I go with Win
7 Pro 64 Bit or Win 10  for the OS?

I know some of you will have taken this path already, so how do you find WIN
10 with typical Ham radio software? I run Win4K3, N1MM, HRD,  Log4OM, CW
Skimmer,  NaP3 and numerous other Ham radio stuff.

I have Win 10 on my laptop (free update from Win 7) but not used for the Ham
shack and find it rather irritating,  but this is probably due to
unfamiliarity.

Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps.


Any advice appreciated, thanks.

73,  Deni - F5VJC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne

[brian]

Ray,

1 dB is generally agreed upon to be the minimum detectible difference in 
audio that people can detect.


Of course, these measurements don't include QRM, QSB or AGC action.

Big gun stations will kill to pick up 1 or 2 dB extra gain somewhere.

73 de Brian/K3KO


On 5/23/2016 12:46 PM, Ray Sills wrote:

And following up with Jim’s posting about the KXPA100 specs:  At the far end of 
a QSO, the difference between an 80 watt signal vs a 100 watt signal would be 
difficult to measure, let alone perceive by ear.  In most cases, a 6 dB 
difference in level is clearly noticeable, and that would be 25 watts vs 100 
watts.   A 3 dB difference can be heard by most people, but a 1 or 2 dB 
difference is almost impossible to notice by ear.

So, even if you are operating with just 12 V, at the input to the amp… don’t 
sweat it.  If you can’t make the QSO with 80 watts, you aren’t going to make it 
with 100 watts… not on HF, with SSB or CW.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



On May 22, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:

On Sun,5/22/2016 11:46 AM, N6MQL wrote:

Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these questions 
of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my disapproval of the 
fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a full 100 watts on a 
standard 12v battery.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne

[Edward R Cole]

I am getting 100w on all HF bands with about 4w drive.  Supply 
voltage is 13.71v in Rx and runs 13.12v with 100w output and 13.07v 
with 110w output with 5.2w drive (tests on 14-MHz into a Bird Power 
meter (100H) and Bird Load).
I compared the reading of the 100H element at 50w on 6m with a 50A 
element with nearly identical reading.


But on 6m it takes 7.2w drive and I only see 72w output at 
13.15v.  Advancing drive higher engages the auto-ATT, so it would 
suggest drive is high enough.


A little disappointed that 6m did not develop output per spec (80w) 
though I guess no one would note the difference of 72 vs 80.  I am 
running a 50A Astron PS which indicates 13.71v at the PS terminal  I 
have not measured what that is under load of the KXPA-100 as PS 
terminals are difficult to reach.  Voltage measured with Fluke model 17B+.


I may try adjusting the Astron to 14.2v to see if that will improve 
output; assuming similar 0.6v drop under load would result in 13.6v.


I substituted a No.10 PP power cord for the No.12 cord provided with 
the amp with no discernable difference.


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne

[Ray Sills]

And following up with Jim’s posting about the KXPA100 specs:  At the far end of 
a QSO, the difference between an 80 watt signal vs a 100 watt signal would be 
difficult to measure, let alone perceive by ear.  In most cases, a 6 dB 
difference in level is clearly noticeable, and that would be 25 watts vs 100 
watts.   A 3 dB difference can be heard by most people, but a 1 or 2 dB 
difference is almost impossible to notice by ear.

So, even if you are operating with just 12 V, at the input to the amp… don’t 
sweat it.  If you can’t make the QSO with 80 watts, you aren’t going to make it 
with 100 watts… not on HF, with SSB or CW.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


> On May 22, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> On Sun,5/22/2016 11:46 AM, N6MQL wrote:
>> Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these 
>> questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my 
>> disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a full 
>> 100 watts on a standard 12v battery.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

[Jim Sheldon]

 It may be something unique to the K3S.  My older K3 didn't do it, but 
the new K3S (#10641) always reverts to PTT KEY OFF-OFF on a power cycle. 
 must be a glitch in the FW.  It IS completely repeatable as the OP 
stated.  Definitely call Elecraft Support on it.


Jim - W0EB

-- Original Message --
From: "Gene Gabry" 
To: "'danny.higgins'" ; 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Sent: 5/23/2016 7:17:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running 
or rig control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power 
down for some period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. 
Always done that since day one. I thought there was some update done in 
latest firmware to PTT-KEY line to default those to OFF so when PC was 
restarted K3S would not go into TX?





 At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote:

 That doesn't sound right.  I don't think mine has ever changed.
 Cheers,
 Fred KE7X

 
 From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ken
 Arck 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

 I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be
 non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts 
to

 OFF - OFF.  I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't

 Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and
 that setting reverts.

 Ken





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Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

[Gene Gabry]

Check the updates to latest firmware version. There is a safe mode and Unsafe 
mode for the PTT-Key line. In Unsafe mode PTT-Key line should not turn off.

* PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED:  PC applications can activate PTT and 
KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial setup of 
the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous activation of the 
transmitter. This can happen if the computer is turned on after the K3S, or if 
the USB cable is not connected. There is now a "Safe" mode (the default) which 
disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a 
read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and 
turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send 
commands may require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be 
avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S.

Gene, N9TF

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gene Gabry
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:17 AM
To: 'danny.higgins'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running or rig 
control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power down for some 
period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. Always done that since 
day one. I thought there was some update done in latest firmware to PTT-KEY 
line to default those to OFF so when PC was restarted K3S would not go into TX?

Gene, N9TF

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
danny.higgins
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:34 AM
To: Don Wilhelm; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

WSJT not running – K3S not connected to PC.  I still need to reset PTT-KEY 
after a power cycle – it always goes back to OFF-OFF.  The same thing happens 
in USB or DATA modes.

Danny, G3XVR

From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26
To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Danny,

Do a test without WSJT running.  Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then cycle 
power on the K3S.  Does that setting survive the power cycle?  If so, it is not 
a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution.
If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote:
> I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via 
> the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data.  Every time I power the K3S 
> OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR – OFF.
>
> Danny, G3XVR
>
>
> From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>
> Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3.
> If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the 
> software not running.
>
> 73,
> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Rehovot, Israel
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>
> On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote:
>> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>> That doesn't sound right.  I don't think mine has ever changed.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Fred KE7X
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ken 
>>> Arck 
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>>>
>>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be 
>>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to 
>>> OFF - OFF.  I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't
>>>
>>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and 
>>> that setting reverts.
>>>
>>> Ken
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Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

[Gene Gabry]

Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running or rig 
control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power down for some 
period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. Always done that since 
day one. I thought there was some update done in latest firmware to PTT-KEY 
line to default those to OFF so when PC was restarted K3S would not go into TX?

Gene, N9TF

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
danny.higgins
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:34 AM
To: Don Wilhelm; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

WSJT not running – K3S not connected to PC.  I still need to reset PTT-KEY 
after a power cycle – it always goes back to OFF-OFF.  The same thing happens 
in USB or DATA modes.

Danny, G3XVR

From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26
To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Danny,

Do a test without WSJT running.  Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then cycle 
power on the K3S.  Does that setting survive the power cycle?  If so, it is not 
a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution.
If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote:
> I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via 
> the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data.  Every time I power the K3S 
> OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR – OFF.
>
> Danny, G3XVR
>
>
> From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>
> Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3.
> If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the 
> software not running.
>
> 73,
> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Rehovot, Israel
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>
> On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote:
>> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>> That doesn't sound right.  I don't think mine has ever changed.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Fred KE7X
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ken 
>>> Arck 
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>>>
>>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be 
>>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to 
>>> OFF - OFF.  I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't
>>>
>>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and 
>>> that setting reverts.
>>>
>>> Ken
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 145, Issue 27

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>   2. Re: To new KX2 owners (KD6QZX)
>   3. Re: [KX3] To new KX2 owners (Wayne Burdick)
>   4. Re: K3S receive antenna (Don Wilhelm)
>   5. K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (N6MQL)
>   6. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Ken G Kopp)
>   7. K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch (Dauer, Edward)
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>  15. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Bob N3MNT)
>  16. [KX2] To new KX2 owners (a...@juno.com)
>  17. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Art Nienhouse)
>  18. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Ken G Kopp)
>  19. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Walter Underwood)
>  20. Tuneup, Rescue, build your K2, K1, KX1, others (Alan D. Wilcox)
>  21. sub files (Ed Hoeck)
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>  24. Re: K3 Equalizer comment (Fred Jensen)
>  25. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Ron D'Eau Claire)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:15:44 -0400
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S
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> Yes you have to modify the K3S. Check the archives, this was answered last
> month by Wayne. I reposted a portion of his answer below:
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> You need to solder one end of an 1/8th-watt resistor to an SMD, and the
> other 
> end to a via nearby. Or you could send it to us to do the work. 
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> From:Bob Novas
> Sat May 21 14:35:16 EDT 2016
> 
> Say, just for the sake of the argument, that I were to purchase a K-pad.  If
> I want to power it from the K3S over the cable connected to the plug on the
> bottom of the K3S, do I have to modify the K3S to get power to the K-pad?
> If so, how much do I have to take apart?  Would it make any sense to
> purchase any other stuff at this juncture because the K3S is going to be
> apart, like the KDV3?  Thanks,  Bob- W3DK
> 
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> Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 19:42:29 -0700 (MST)
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> Campbell hill is closed SOTA thanks for the cool little HF rig.  Scott AK6Q
> 
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> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought 
>> to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne

[Bill Frantz]

An addition to Jim's comments below.

All 100W rigs, regardless of manufacturer, whether the amp is 
part of the radio or a separate unit, develop significant 
distortion as the voltage drops. We noticed the effect at CQP 
last year. We were operating on batteries as our hosts have a no 
generator rule. As our batteries got lower, our 3 stations -- 2 
K3s and a KX3 with KXPA100 -- started interfering with each 
other. The problem went away when we replaced the batteries with 
fresh ones.


This distortion will also affect your signal as received by 
distant stations, so it is undesirable in a rig unless you want 
a reputation for a bad signal.


One way to be able to get maximum runtime from your batteries is 
to use a voltage booster regulator. I use a N8XJK Boost 
Regulator from TGE. This device boosts the battery voltage to 
the radio. Mine shows 13.9 volts, receive and 13.4 volts key 
down at 100W on 160M, even with relatively low batteries. (It 
does have a low voltage cut off to protect the batteries.)


The N8XJK Boost Regulator does generate some minor birdies on 
receive, so I have it set up to only boost voltage when it 
senses RF output from the transmitter.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/22/16 at 2:46 PM, j...@audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) wrote:


On Sun,5/22/2016 11:46 AM, N6MQL wrote:
Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked 
these questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let 
him know of my disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is 
incapable of running a full 100 watts on a standard 12v battery.


Michael,

A careful reading of the online data sheet for the KXPA100 is instructive here.

http://www.elecraft.com/KXPA100/kxpa100.htm

The first line says "100 watts at 13.8 V, 1.8 to 29.7 MHz and 
80 watts 50-54 MHz PEP CW/SSB/DATA; ± 1 dB"


Two points: First, the amplifier is rated for 13.8V, NOT 12V. 
Second, the rating is +/1 dB, which is +/- 20% power. Thus, 80W 
on the HF bands is within spec for 13.8V at the amplifier terminals.


The second line says "13.8 VDC powered; 20 A typical current 
drain (11 V with lower output. 15 V max)"


This clearly means that the unit is designed and rated for 
13.8VDC, can be operated from 11V to 15VDC, and will have 
reduced output at lower supply voltages.


Obviously, Ohm's Law dictates that resistance of the DC supply 
conductors will reduce power supply voltage at the amplifier 
terminals, so while we may have 12V or 13.8V at our battery 
terminals, the voltage at the end of 6-12 ft of cable will be a 
bit lower with a 20A load. For example, the drop in 6 ft of #10 
is 0.24v; for #12, it's 0.38V, and for #14, it's 0.6V.


As others have noted, the operating voltage in so-called 12V DC 
power systems using lead-acid batteries is not 12V, but rather 
13.8V. If you buy an AC power supply for ham gear, it will 
likely leave the factory with its voltage regulator set for 
13.8V. Open the manual or the spec sheet for nearly all ham 
gear and you will find the supply voltage specified as 13.8VDC.


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[Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice.

[F5vjc]

Hi, I have an Elecraft K line station and up to now have been running all
my software on an aging Win 7 32 bit machine. No real problems but I'm in
the process of building an updated PC and have a dilemma.  Do I go with Win
7 Pro 64 Bit or Win 10  for the OS?

I know some of you will have taken this path already, so how do you find
WIN 10 with typical Ham radio software? I run Win4K3, N1MM, HRD,  Log4OM,
CW Skimmer,  NaP3 and numerous other Ham radio stuff.

I have Win 10 on my laptop (free update from Win 7) but not used for the
Ham shack and find it rather irritating,  but this is probably due to
unfamiliarity.

Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps.


Any advice appreciated, thanks.

73,  Deni - F5VJC
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Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

[danny . higgins]

WSJT not running – K3S not connected to PC.  I still need to reset PTT-KEY 
after a power cycle – it always goes back to OFF-OFF.  The same thing happens 
in USB or DATA modes.

Danny, G3XVR

From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26
To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?

Danny,

Do a test without WSJT running.  Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then 
cycle power on the K3S.  Does that setting survive the power cycle?  If 
so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution.
If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote:
> I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via 
> the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data.  Every time I power the K3S 
> OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR – OFF.
>
> Danny, G3XVR
>
>
> From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>
> Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3.
> If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the
> software not running.
>
> 73,
> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Rehovot, Israel
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>
> On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote:
>> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>> That doesn't sound right.  I don't think mine has ever changed.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Fred KE7X
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ken
>>> Arck 
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile?
>>>
>>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be
>>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to
>>> OFF - OFF.  I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't
>>>
>>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and
>>> that setting reverts.
>>>
>>> Ken
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