Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Hi Gary, group, Elecraft support, I think I have found a strong correlation between CW in SSB not working and the QRQ setting. Here follows: To make CW in SSB work: set CONFIG:QRQ to OFF, power-cycle the K3. To break CW in SSB: set CONFIG:QRQ to ON, power-cycle the K3. 73, Frank PA4N At 21:36 31/01/2012, Gary Hinson wrote: Hi Frank. I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running firmware 4.39. I raised this on the reflector some months back and went around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc. I did manage to fix it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has packed up again since then. I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others. At least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately. I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!). 73 Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Same here, it works fine for me with latest beta. I never use VOX on ssb. it's a very useful feature. 73 Stephen G4SJP On 3 February 2012 00:12, Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com wrote: when I have CW WGHT [1] set to SSB +CW the K3 transmits cw when in mode ssb no matter whither I have vox implemented or not Firmware MCU 4.42 FPF 1.14 DSP 2.73 K3 util 1.4.10.11 K3 #4123 -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 2/2/2012 5:38 PM, Jan Ditzian wrote: CW works in SSB mode only if Vox is on because you have not used the PTT. This is exactly parallel to the procedure for CW, where you can only send without PTT by turning Vox on. Jan, KX2A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
I have read this thread with great interest. But I must say that I have never done CW in SSB mode. Can't specifically remember having heard it done. What is the general use for this approach? Getting through when SSB isn't cutting it? That would seem obvious. How is this odd approach viewed in the amateur and DX community? Does it not matter to a SSB DX station or his pileup if I slam my call in there via CW. I doubt it is against the rules. But what about the impact to courtesy, ethical operating habits, etc? I have had occasions where a CW transmission might have snagged me a new one during a SSB operation. Does it make me a lid? Looking to be enlighten. 73, Terry, W0FM -Original Message- From: Stephen Prior [mailto:eastbrantw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:02 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Same here, it works fine for me with latest beta. I never use VOX on ssb. it's a very useful feature. 73 Stephen G4SJP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode
Hi Terry, I suspect you'll get a number of reasons for using the feature ... It -very- common on VHF ... 6M in this case ... when both parties in a QSO want to log both a CW and SSB contact. It's convenient when one wants to key the rig to set drive level, check SWR, adjust an antenna tuner, etc. I also never use VOX (on SSB) and use a foot-switch for everything. (:-) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Terry Schieler terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com wrote: __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by DXers on the VHF bands. I have never seen it used on the HF bands even though it would be legal. It allows you to keep the receiver on SSB while using the transmitter on CW. I have used it on HF to touch up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other operator is CW capable or will know what to do. Of course there is no such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other operator has encountered the technique. I would not attempt it in an HF SSB pileup. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart From: Terry Schieler terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? I have read this thread with great interest. But I must say that I have never done CW in SSB mode. Can't specifically remember having heard it done. What is the general use for this approach? Getting through when SSB isn't cutting it? That would seem obvious. How is this odd approach viewed in the amateur and DX community? Does it not matter to a SSB DX station or his pileup if I slam my call in there via CW. I doubt it is against the rules. But what about the impact to courtesy, ethical operating habits, etc? I have had occasions where a CW transmission might have snagged me a new one during a SSB operation. Does it make me a lid? Looking to be enlighten. 73, Terry, W0FM -Original Message- From: Stephen Prior [mailto:eastbrantw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:02 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Same here, it works fine for me with latest beta. I never use VOX on ssb. it's a very useful feature. 73 Stephen G4SJP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode
If you want to test drive level why wouldn't you just use the Tune function? I find it to be a very handy feature of the K3. No switching modes no using a key, etc. Rick K6LE On 2/3/2012, at 11:19 , Ken G Kopp wrote: Hi Terry, I suspect you'll get a number of reasons for using the feature ... It -very- common on VHF ... 6M in this case ... when both parties in a QSO want to log both a CW and SSB contact. It's convenient when one wants to key the rig to set drive level, check SWR, adjust an antenna tuner, etc. I also never use VOX (on SSB) and use a foot-switch for everything. (:-) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
You can use this to check into nets where US (or at least lower 48) folks do not have voice privileges. There are some Canadian and Alaskan nets which run SSB but welcome folks running CW from the lower 48. Kevin. KD5ONS On 2/3/2012 11:41 AM, WILLIS COOKE wrote: Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by DXers on the VHF bands. I have never seen it used on the HF bands even though it would be legal. ... Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Terry Schieler wrote: What is the general use for this approach? When I'm wearing my VHF Contester hat, I'm /constantly/ switching between CW and SSB. In these contests, CW and SSB contacts take place in the same band segments (here in the PNW, calling freq +/- 20KHz), and mode is not a factor in the scoring. Station asymmetry is common, and paths can fade quickly, so cross-mode and mixed-mode contacts are regular occurrences. Indeed, I've often operated whole contests cross-mode because when you're portable or rover, working aurora, knife-edge, and back-scatter through mountains and valleys, CW is the only thing that's going to be heard. Pileups are rarely a problem -- just being heard well enough to make the contact is challenging enough :), and in this context, it is not considered a rude operating practice. The K3 makes this kind of operating a breeze and it's my biggest reason for buying a KX3! - kb7psg On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Terry Schieler wrote: I have read this thread with great interest. But I must say that I have never done CW in SSB mode. Can't specifically remember having heard it done. What is the general use for this approach? Getting through when SSB isn't cutting it? That would seem obvious. How is this odd approach viewed in the amateur and DX community? Does it not matter to a SSB DX station or his pileup if I slam my call in there via CW. I doubt it is against the rules. But what about the impact to courtesy, ethical operating habits, etc? I have had occasions where a CW transmission might have snagged me a new one during a SSB operation. Does it make me a lid? Looking to be enlighten. 73, Terry, W0FM -Original Message- From: Stephen Prior [mailto:eastbrantw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:02 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Same here, it works fine for me with latest beta. I never use VOX on ssb. it's a very useful feature. 73 Stephen G4SJP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Here is another scenario: You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to activate this cross-mode transmission? Fred Cady fcady at ieee dot org The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation www.ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by DXers on the VHF bands. I have never seen it used on the HF bands even though it would be legal. It allows you to keep the receiver on SSB while using the transmitter on CW. I have used it on HF to touch up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other operator is CW capable or will know what to do. Of course there is no such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other operator has encountered the technique. I would not attempt it in an HF SSB pileup. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
In that scenario, what's wrong with CW mode and setting the filter suitably wide? 73, Thomas M0TRN On 3 February 2012 22:05, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote: Here is another scenario: You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to activate this cross-mode transmission? Fred Cady fcady at ieee dot org The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation www.ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by DXers on the VHF bands. I have never seen it used on the HF bands even though it would be legal. It allows you to keep the receiver on SSB while using the transmitter on CW. I have used it on HF to touch up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other operator is CW capable or will know what to do. Of course there is no such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other operator has encountered the technique. I would not attempt it in an HF SSB pileup. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
The CW in SSB mode shifts the frequency for CW so that you can copy CW and SSB without engaging the RIT. It is a software thing, so the choice is whether to engage the mode or not and when you want to send CW in the SSB mode you just push the key if you are in VOX. If you are in PTT you need to also engage the PTT. So, it is a no cost option if you have a K3. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart From: Thomas Horsten tho...@horsten.com To: Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu Cc: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com; Terry Schieler terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? In that scenario, what's wrong with CW mode and setting the filter suitably wide? 73, Thomas M0TRN On 3 February 2012 22:05, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote: Here is another scenario: You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to activate this cross-mode transmission? Fred Cady fcady at ieee dot org The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation www.ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by DXers on the VHF bands. I have never seen it used on the HF bands even though it would be legal. It allows you to keep the receiver on SSB while using the transmitter on CW. I have used it on HF to touch up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other operator is CW capable or will know what to do. Of course there is no such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other operator has encountered the technique. I would not attempt it in an HF SSB pileup. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
I don't remember the menu option Fred, but it is just an option that you turn on or off then all you need to do is key the transmitter when you are in SSB. The only problem that I have is occasionally bumping the paddles and wondering what is making all the noise. Maybe someone will remember how to turn it on or off. I turned mine on a few years ago and have never turned it off! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart From: Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com; Terry Schieler terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:05 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Here is another scenario: You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to activate this cross-mode transmission? Fred Cady fcady at ieee dot org The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation www.ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by DXers on the VHF bands. I have never seen it used on the HF bands even though it would be legal. It allows you to keep the receiver on SSB while using the transmitter on CW. I have used it on HF to touch up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other operator is CW capable or will know what to do. Of course there is no such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other operator has encountered the technique. I would not attempt it in an HF SSB pileup. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: The CW in SSB mode shifts the frequency for CW so that you can copy CW and SSB without engaging the RIT. It is a software thing, so the choice is whether to engage the mode or not and when you want to send CW in the SSB mode you just push the key if you are in VOX. If you are in PTT you need to also engage the PTT. That's NOT true. If you engage PTT, you will be transmitting SSB, and CW will not work (as has been discussed in the last couple of days). ~iain / N6ML From: Thomas Horsten tho...@horsten.com To: Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu Cc: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com; Terry Schieler terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? In that scenario, what's wrong with CW mode and setting the filter suitably wide? 73, Thomas M0TRN On 3 February 2012 22:05, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote: Here is another scenario: You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to activate this cross-mode transmission? Fred Cady fcady at ieee dot org The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation www.ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by DXers on the VHF bands. I have never seen it used on the HF bands even though it would be legal. It allows you to keep the receiver on SSB while using the transmitter on CW. I have used it on HF to touch up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other operator is CW capable or will know what to do. Of course there is no such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other operator has encountered the technique. I would not attempt it in an HF SSB pileup. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
OK, I will yield on that one. I never really tried it because I always leave my VOX on and just key the key when I want to send CW. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart From: iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Cc: Thomas Horsten tho...@horsten.com; Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Terry Schieler terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: The CW in SSB mode shifts the frequency for CW so that you can copy CW and SSB without engaging the RIT. It is a software thing, so the choice is whether to engage the mode or not and when you want to send CW in the SSB mode you just push the key if you are in VOX. If you are in PTT you need to also engage the PTT. That's NOT true. If you engage PTT, you will be transmitting SSB, and CW will not work (as has been discussed in the last couple of days). ~iain / N6ML From: Thomas Horsten tho...@horsten.com To: Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu Cc: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com; Terry Schieler terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? In that scenario, what's wrong with CW mode and setting the filter suitably wide? 73, Thomas M0TRN On 3 February 2012 22:05, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote: Here is another scenario: You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to activate this cross-mode transmission? Fred Cady fcady at ieee dot org The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation www.ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by DXers on the VHF bands. I have never seen it used on the HF bands even though it would be legal. It allows you to keep the receiver on SSB while using the transmitter on CW. I have used it on HF to touch up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other operator is CW capable or will know what to do. Of course there is no such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other operator has encountered the technique. I would not attempt it in an HF SSB pileup. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Actually, the question is one of the exercises in the K3 book. And the answer is tapping the 1 key on the CW WGT config menu. :-) Fred From: WILLIS COOKE [mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:40 PM To: Cady, Fred; Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? I don't remember the menu option Fred, but it is just an option that you turn on or off then all you need to do is key the transmitter when you are in SSB. The only problem that I have is occasionally bumping the paddles and wondering what is making all the noise. Maybe someone will remember how to turn it on or off. I turned mine on a few years ago and have never turned it off! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart From: Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com; Terry Schieler terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:05 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Here is another scenario: You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to activate this cross-mode transmission? Fred Cady fcady at ieee dot org The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation www.ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by DXers on the VHF bands. I have never seen it used on the HF bands even though it would be legal. It allows you to keep the receiver on SSB while using the transmitter on CW. I have used it on HF to touch up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other operator is CW capable or will know what to do. Of course there is no such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other operator has encountered the technique. I would not attempt it in an HF SSB pileup. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
I use CW in SSB mode on VHF contest regularly. It is a matter of convenience. Station is calling in SSB, and I hear them, but need to bust through the traffic going on at the far end, especially when I am a low power rover out in the boonies. I try first in SSB but soon I realize I am not going to be heard, so just reach for the key and send a response in CW or call and listen for any resone to me, CW or SSB. Many operators may not even respond on CW also. It is convenient to be able to send CW, hear CW or SSB not fiddle with dials at all. An without the right CW offset you are zero beat on the other station and he never hears you. Another point I did not see mentioned (or got buried) about how to make the K3 transmit CW while listening in SSB mode while in SPLIT or when the Sub RX it on (with or without SPLIT). Hit B-set and put the TX VFO into CW mode. Now you are cross mode. Hit REV to hear the CW side. I do not think you get the automatic CW offset that CW in SSB mode gets you so you have to fiddle with the dial or XIT. In a VHF contest that takes too long, especially as a rover in a new grid pileup. One solution is to link the VFOs after setting your CW offset and leave it that way. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-CW-in-SSB-mode-broken-tp7248089p7253007.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Lance and Don, That is exactly how I have my K3 configured with an external sequencer. In voice the PTT keys the K3 and I take KEYOUT to key the sequencer. The final stage of the sequencer defeats the INHIBIT line to the K3 enabling transmit. I do not run QSK on VHF so I manually switch the sequencer for hand sent CW. Of course if under sw control of WSJT (JT65) PTT is controlled via RTS or DTR lines in the serial interface and the radio is in DATA-A which uses USB. JT65 has a CW mode, although I have not used it. Instead I have a separate CW program that keys PTT and CW via the RS232 line. I only use keyboard CW when running eme. I use BAND0 line to enable my inhibit so it is not in use on HF/6m. I will add 6m sequencing/inhibit via DIGOUT1. I just installed a 222 transverter so I will also need to use BAND1 for TRN2. Simple diode steering will enable all these to enable the inhibit function: http://www.kl7uw.com/TX-INHIBIT.htm 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
I can't do 6M, but I use this feature often on the other bands. I don't use VOX. I just hooked up the antenna and verified it. Using f/w 04.36 Dick, n0ce One thing that disappointed me is that this very useful cross-mode feature (at least on 6m, where I do most of my operating), is available only if you are running VOX mode. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
CW works in SSB mode only if Vox is on because you have not used the PTT. This is exactly parallel to the procedure for CW, where you can only send without PTT by turning Vox on. Jan, KX2A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Jan Ditzian ditz...@windstream.net wrote: CW works in SSB mode only if Vox is on because you have not used the PTT. This is exactly parallel to the procedure for CW, where you can only send without PTT by turning Vox on. Nice theory, but it's not true (as far as I can see). SSB +CW happens (i.e. makes RF out) for me, even if VOX is off in both modes. If VOX is off in CW mode, I get full QSK in SSB mode. If VOX (but not QSK) is on in CW mode, I get semi-QSK in SSB mode. The SSB VOX setting doesn't make any difference. It kinda seems like a bug that CW makes RF in SSB mode when VOX is off in CW mode ~iain / N6ML __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
when I have CW WGHT [1] set to SSB +CW the K3 transmits cw when in mode ssb no matter whither I have vox implemented or not Firmware MCU 4.42 FPF 1.14 DSP 2.73 K3 util 1.4.10.11 K3 #4123 -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 2/2/2012 5:38 PM, Jan Ditzian wrote: CW works in SSB mode only if Vox is on because you have not used the PTT. This is exactly parallel to the procedure for CW, where you can only send without PTT by turning Vox on. Jan, KX2A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB Mode broken?
I, too, recall this being broken some time back. And I also seem to remember a promise to fix it. It would be quite helpful if it worked while in Split for users such as myself that need to tune on a Split frequency for autotune amps, tuners, etc. Jerry N8BM CW in SSB mode generally works fine here but not if I am in split mode. Itseems like it used to but I cannot make it work in split mode now. I'mrunning FW 4.47. Any thoughts? Stan - K6VWE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? 73, Frank PA4N __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Hi Greg, Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW. At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote: Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when sending the CW? 73 Greg AB7R On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk fr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it works... ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk fr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi Greg, Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW. At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote: Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when sending the CW? 73 Greg AB7R On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk fr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Hi, I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else... At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote: Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it works... ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk fr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi Greg, Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW. At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote: Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when sending the CW? 73 Greg AB7R On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk fr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Hi Ken, No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output power. If I switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power. So it cannot be that... At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote: Is the PWR set to 0? 73! Ken - K0PP mailto:elecraftcov...@gmail.comelecraftcov...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi, I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else... At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote: Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it works... ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi Greg, Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW. At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote: Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when sending the CW? 73 Greg AB7R On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Hi Frank. I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running firmware 4.39. I raised this on the reflector some months back and went around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc. I did manage to fix it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has packed up again since then. I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others. At least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately. I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!). 73 Gary ZL2iFB -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 7:48 a.m. To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Hi Ken, No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output power. If I switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power. So it cannot be that... At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote: Is the PWR set to 0? 73! Ken - K0PP mailto:elecraftcov...@gmail.comelecraftcov...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi, I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else... At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote: Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it works... ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi Greg, Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW. At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote: Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when sending the CW? 73 Greg AB7R On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/ mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ _ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net /mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Gary and others, Yes, I momentarily saw it working okay on 6 meters when I did a brief transmission on that band. Unfortunately, as I don't have an antenna for 6 meters, the K3 encountered a high SWR there. And now it outputs only about 5 watts on each band (also in CW mode) when I've dialed an output power less than 12W. If I select a power level over 12W, so the KPA100 should kick in, I get no output whatsoever. So maybe I broke something now. :-( Or the cryptic bug has manifested itself in the CW mode too. Any ideas whether I could do a software reset of the radio? Fingers crossed here now... Frank PA4N At 21:36 31/01/2012, you wrote: Hi Frank. I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running firmware 4.39. I raised this on the reflector some months back and went around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc. I did manage to fix it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has packed up again since then. I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others. At least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately. I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!). 73 Gary ZL2iFB -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 7:48 a.m. To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Hi Ken, No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output power. If I switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power. So it cannot be that... At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote: Is the PWR set to 0? 73! Ken - K0PP mailto:elecraftcov...@gmail.comelecraftcov...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi, I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else... At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote: Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it works... ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi Greg, Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW. At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote: Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when sending the CW? 73 Greg AB7R On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/ mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ _ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net /mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
CW in SSB mode works fine here. Firmware versions: MCU 4.47 FPF 1.15 DSP1 2.73 73, Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
It works OK here w/4.39 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Have you tried plugging a straight key into the KEY jack to see if it sends cw on ssb that way? Mine works (v4.39) with a paddle or straight key, vox or ptt, any band. 73, Ted W4NZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:04 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Gary and others, Yes, I momentarily saw it working okay on 6 meters when I did a brief transmission on that band. Unfortunately, as I don't have an antenna for 6 meters, the K3 encountered a high SWR there. And now it outputs only about 5 watts on each band (also in CW mode) when I've dialed an output power less than 12W. If I select a power level over 12W, so the KPA100 should kick in, I get no output whatsoever. So maybe I broke something now. :-( Or the cryptic bug has manifested itself in the CW mode too. Any ideas whether I could do a software reset of the radio? Fingers crossed here now... Frank PA4N At 21:36 31/01/2012, you wrote: Hi Frank. I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running firmware 4.39. I raised this on the reflector some months back and went around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc. I did manage to fix it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has packed up again since then. I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others. At least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately. I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!). 73 Gary ZL2iFB -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 7:48 a.m. To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? Hi Ken, No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output power. If I switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power. So it cannot be that... At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote: Is the PWR set to 0? 73! Ken - K0PP mailto:elecraftcov...@gmail.comelecraftcov...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi, I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else... At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote: Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it works... ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi Greg, Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW. At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote: Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when sending the CW? 73 Greg AB7R On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/ mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ _ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net /mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlhttp://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Mine seems to work OK with 4.47. Fred Cady fcady at ieee dot org The Elecraft K3: Design,Configuration and Operation -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Beford Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:14 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? CW in SSB mode works fine here. Firmware versions: MCU 4.47 FPF 1.15 DSP1 2.73 73, Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
I must be missing something. Can someone explain why you would want to send CW in SSB mode? I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works fine here, using firmware 4.36. Tnx 73, Tim - N3XX On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch back and forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency). 73, ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX n...@charter.net wrote: I must be missing something. Can someone explain why you would want to send CW in SSB mode? I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works fine here, using firmware 4.36. Tnx 73, Tim - N3XX On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Mmm, interesting. Prompted by other comments, I tested CW-in-SSB band-by-band. Starting at 10m and working systematically down to 160m, the K3 would go into transmit mode but produce no power out on any band. However, after moving 'down' from 160m to 6m, it mysteriously started working again - and now works correctly on every band. So, it seems that merely by changing bands and hitting the paddle, I have cleared whatever it was that blocked the transmitter in CW-in-SSB. How odd! Frank (or anyone else whose CW-in-SSB doesn't work): perhaps you would try the same thing? It still smells of a firmware bug to me. 73 Gary ZL2iFB -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell - N6ML Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:17 a.m. To: N3XX Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch back and forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency). 73, ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX n...@charter.net wrote: I must be missing something. Can someone explain why you would want to send CW in SSB mode? I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works fine here, using firmware 4.36. Tnx 73, Tim - N3XX On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
For those who say it is broken - are you by any chance in split mode? It does not work in split(at least for me). Otherwise, works fine. Bob W6VY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Hi Frank and All, It may have been mentioned before, because I come late to this thread. But, I have noticed the same thing while I am in SPLIT mode, not otherwise. I hope this helps. 73, John, W2GW - Original Message - From: N3XX n...@charter.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
Thanks Iain. I do hear guys doing that on 6 once in awhile. Also just tuning around on 6 in ssb mode, many times I will hear someone on cw, so I can see that it might be useful there also, being able to just give him a call instead of switching modes retuning. 73, Tim - N3XX - Original Message - From: iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org To: N3XX n...@charter.net Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken? For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch back and forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency). 73, ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX n...@charter.net wrote: I must be missing something. Can someone explain why you would want to send CW in SSB mode? I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works fine here, using firmware 4.36. Tnx 73, Tim - N3XX On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk mailto:fr...@qrd.nlfr...@qrd.nl wrote: Hi group, Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware version 04.39. Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB Mode broken?
CW in SSB mode generally works fine here but not if I am in split mode. It seems like it used to but I cannot make it work in split mode now. I'm running FW 4.47. Any thoughts? Stan - K6VWE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW-in-SSB mode no power out
Make sure VOX is turned on for CW. 73, Eric --- www.elecraft.com On 10/30/2011 8:41 PM, Gary Hinson wrote: What am I doing wrong? If I hit the paddle when in SSB mode to send some CW, the rig keys and the sidetone sounds as normal, but there's no RF output. I'm pretty sure it used to work, so what have I broken? 73 Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 CW-in-SSB mode no power out
What am I doing wrong? If I hit the paddle when in SSB mode to send some CW, the rig keys and the sidetone sounds as normal, but there's no RF output. I'm pretty sure it used to work, so what have I broken? 73 Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - CW in SSB mode operation
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:53:01 -, Ken Kopp k...@rfwave.net wrote: I use the transmit CW while in SSB mode feature. Most replies have been in SSB mode, so no retuning is needed. I often monitor 50.125 in SSB mode and at random intervals send DE K0PP DN36 to probe for activity / openings ... a form of manual beaconing. (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@rfwave.net http://tunyurl.com/7lm3m5 That's sort of what I do, Ken. The CW just lets them know there's someone out there. Heck they don't even need to be able to copy CW ;o) Tom, N5GE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 - CW in SSB mode operation
I use the transmit CW while in SSB mode feature. Most replies have been in SSB mode, so no retuning is needed. I often monitor 50.125 in SSB mode and at random intervals send DE K0PP DN36 to probe for activity / openings ... a form of manual beaconing. (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@rfwave.net http://tunyurl.com/7lm3m5 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m feature request
In a recent message, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... But here's the problem I encountered: I never, ever want to send CW on 60m. It's illegal for me, even if I just accidentally bump into the key while I'm in a 60M USB QSO. It's not like bumping the key on some other band where you can just give an ID and move on. There's simply no way to do it legally. I wouldn't worry about it too much, Leigh. Hopefully the FCC will join the rest of the world and permit CW on 60m in the near future. With channels only 3kHz wide, narrow modes are more appropriate, permitting operation by many stations on the same channel. SSB occupies a whole channel, which does not make economical use of the limited spectrum available. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m featurerequest
What I actually said was (in its entirety) this: Perhaps it's too esoteric, but it would be nice if there were a way to disable the CW in SSB mode feature for 60m. Leigh/WA5ZNU Lyle Johnson wrote: Isn't it ILLEGAL for any mode other than USB on 60? Other bands are legally open to CW anywhere but I think NOT on 60. Somebody verify this. Please keep in mind that the K3 is shipped worldwide. Many administrations have rules less restrictive than in the U.S. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m feature request
Brett Howard wrote: Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere as it turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be. Granted cross mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1 but you never know. Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside of the bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit outside of band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good enhancement. I agree. I don't see any reason to disable anything. If you don't want to use something, or aren't allowed to use something, then just don't use it. We're licensed amateurs, we know what the rules are, we don't need our radios playing nanny to make sure we don't do anything we're not supposed to. - Julian, G4ILO http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham Directory -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-CW-in-SSB-mode-option-to-disable-on-60m-feature-request-tp574482p574843.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m feature request
I agree Julian, Let's use the Little Gray Cells between our ears. If not, there's always EchoLink, Skype etc. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:49:10 -0700 (PDT), Julian, G4ILO wrote: Brett Howard wrote: Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere as it turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be. Granted cross mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1 but you never know. Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside of the bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit outside of band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good enhancement. I agree. I don't see any reason to disable anything. If you don't want to use something, or aren't allowed to use something, then just don't use it. We're licensed amateurs, we know what the rules are, we don't need our radios playing nanny to make sure we don't do anything we're not supposed to. - Julian, G4ILO http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham Directory ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode
Sure glad this was in place. On a 75 M net my call was not copied correctly. So I just used the key. NCS thanked me for the correction. Now I am waiting for the SCRIPTS so I can try PKS31 and RTTY. This is a GREAT rig. 73, Ty, W1TF, GA, [K3 #696, uC 02.02, d1 01.77], [K1 #1423] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m featurerequest
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:30:08 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I actually said was (in its entirety) this: Perhaps it's too esoteric, but it would be nice if there were a way to disable the CW in SSB mode feature for 60m. Leigh/WA5ZNU [snip] Lyle Johnson wrote: Please keep in mind that the K3 is shipped worldwide. Many administrations have rules less restrictive than in the U.S. 73, Lyle KK7P Although it has become common practice to protect us from ourselves in all walks of life, I prefer that rig manufacturers not restrict my operating capabilities. It's my responsibility to follow the rules. I don't want rig manufacturers to take on that responsibility for me. It reminds me of when I asked the policeman who visited my elementary school, Why don't you find a way to stop criminals from committing crimes?. His answer was, It's my Job to bring the criminals in our society to justice, not to prevent them from committing the crimes. 73, Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m feature request
OK, I'm going to try one last time. The K3 has a feature whereby it can do CW in USB mode. It doesn't do this by default; you have specifically enable this feature. This feature has plenty of issues, even for the folks who asked for it: logging programs think you're in USB when you are actually operating CW, for example. There's no way around that. But here's the problem I encountered: I never, ever want to send CW on 60m. It's illegal for me, even if I just accidentally bump into the key while I'm in a 60M USB QSO. It's not like bumping the key on some other band where you can just give an ID and move on. There's simply no way to do it legally. Now, if I want to make sure my rig never gets a stuck key or a dit on 60m, I can do this really easily: just don't go into CW mode. I've been a ham since 1969, and I think I can trust myself to know what mode my rig is in. But wait, now I can't! It says USB, but it's not USB, it's CW. I know, I'll ask Elecraft in a quick one-liner if they can offer an OPTION so that the CW in SSB mode OPTION can be selectively not turned on on 60m. Seems simple enough. But what do I get in response? A long thread of debate on why I shouldn't want me to prevent them from using CW (as if you'd *have* to have this enabled), how folks in England can get special license authority to use CW on 60m (which is totally irrelevant to me and my request, and is of no disadvantage to anyone else, though it's a nice privilege to have), and how I'm somehow Letting Down Ham Radio by asking for an option to have my rig send not send CW in SSB mode in the one place where it matters. Then by the time someone from Elecraft actually gets to the message, the debate among those bashing the straw-man-proposals-that-aren't-what-I-said are all that's left and the original intent of the request is totally lost. 73 es QRU, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:30:08 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I actually said was (in its entirety) this: Perhaps it's too esoteric, but it would be nice if there were a way to disable the CW in SSB mode feature for 60m. Leigh/WA5ZNU [snip] Lyle Johnson wrote: Please keep in mind that the K3 is shipped worldwide. Many administrations have rules less restrictive than in the U.S. 73, Lyle KK7P Although it has become common practice to protect us from ourselves in all walks of life, I prefer that rig manufacturers not restrict my operating capabilities. It's my responsibility to follow the rules. I don't want rig manufacturers to take on that responsibility for me. It reminds me of when I asked the policeman who visited my elementary school, Why don't you find a way to stop criminals from committing crimes?. His answer was, It's my Job to bring the criminals in our society to justice, not to prevent them from committing the crimes. 73, Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m feature request
Perhaps it's too esoteric, but it would be nice if there were a way to disable the CW in SSB mode feature for 60m. Leigh/WA5ZNU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m feature request
Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere as it turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be. Granted cross mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1 but you never know. Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside of the bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit outside of band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good enhancement. ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 16:23 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. wrote: Perhaps it's too esoteric, but it would be nice if there were a way to disable the CW in SSB mode feature for 60m. Leigh/WA5ZNU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m featurerequest
Isn't it ILLEGAL for any mode other than USB on 60? Other bands are legally open to CW anywhere but I think NOT on 60. Somebody verify this. 73, Jim - Original Message - From: Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m featurerequest Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere as it turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be. Granted cross mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1 but you never know. Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside of the bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit outside of band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good enhancement. ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 16:23 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. wrote: Perhaps it's too esoteric, but it would be nice if there were a way to disable the CW in SSB mode feature for 60m. Leigh/WA5ZNU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m featurerequest
In an emergency NOTHING is illegal. On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 21:24 -0500, Jim Miller wrote: Isn't it ILLEGAL for any mode other than USB on 60? Other bands are legally open to CW anywhere but I think NOT on 60. Somebody verify this. 73, Jim - Original Message - From: Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m featurerequest Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere as it turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be. Granted cross mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1 but you never know. Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside of the bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit outside of band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good enhancement. ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 16:23 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. wrote: Perhaps it's too esoteric, but it would be nice if there were a way to disable the CW in SSB mode feature for 60m. Leigh/WA5ZNU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m featurerequest
Isn't it ILLEGAL for any mode other than USB on 60? Other bands are legally open to CW anywhere but I think NOT on 60. Somebody verify this. Please keep in mind that the K3 is shipped worldwide. Many administrations have rules less restrictive than in the U.S. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
