Re: [Elecraft] K3 SUB-RX audio
Tnx Joe! That was the solution. 73, Evert PA2KW -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2024 15:23 To: ev...@pa2kw.com; Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SUB-RX audio In Windows Sound Control Panel ... select the Recording tab then select "microphone (USB Audio CODEC)" - the KIO3B ... select the Advanced tab and make sure Default Format is to "2 ch, 16 bit, 48000 Hz (DVD Quality)" 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/6/2024 2:11 AM, ev...@pa2kw.com wrote: > Setup was: > > * K3 with SUB-RX and MicroHam MKII > * ANT 1 = TX antenna, RX-ANT (BNC) = Receive antenna. > > > > When using the SUB-RX (I think even in Diversity mode), with JTDX I > was able to “listen” to the Left audio channel which was the SUB-RX > (receive antenna) > > > > A while ago I installed the KIO3B board. All seems to work fine but…. > > Whatever I try to change, I’m not able to “listen” to the SUB-RX with JTDX > anymore. > > I do hear both receivers in my headphone Main = Right ear, Sub = Left ear. > > Is the Audio Codec signal a MONO channel or is it a setting in the K3 I > didn’t think of? > > > > Any help appreciated. > > > > 73, Evert PA2KW > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 SUB-RX audio
In Windows Sound Control Panel ... select the Recording tab then select "microphone (USB Audio CODEC)" - the KIO3B ... select the Advanced tab and make sure Default Format is to "2 ch, 16 bit, 48000 Hz (DVD Quality)" 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/6/2024 2:11 AM, ev...@pa2kw.com wrote: Setup was: * K3 with SUB-RX and MicroHam MKII * ANT 1 = TX antenna, RX-ANT (BNC) = Receive antenna. When using the SUB-RX (I think even in Diversity mode), with JTDX I was able to “listen” to the Left audio channel which was the SUB-RX (receive antenna) A while ago I installed the KIO3B board. All seems to work fine but…. Whatever I try to change, I’m not able to “listen” to the SUB-RX with JTDX anymore. I do hear both receivers in my headphone Main = Right ear, Sub = Left ear. Is the Audio Codec signal a MONO channel or is it a setting in the K3 I didn’t think of? Any help appreciated. 73, Evert PA2KW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 SUB-RX audio
Setup was: * K3 with SUB-RX and MicroHam MKII * ANT 1 = TX antenna, RX-ANT (BNC) = Receive antenna. When using the SUB-RX (I think even in Diversity mode), with JTDX I was able to “listen” to the Left audio channel which was the SUB-RX (receive antenna) A while ago I installed the KIO3B board. All seems to work fine but…. Whatever I try to change, I’m not able to “listen” to the SUB-RX with JTDX anymore. I do hear both receivers in my headphone Main = Right ear, Sub = Left ear. Is the Audio Codec signal a MONO channel or is it a setting in the K3 I didn’t think of? Any help appreciated. 73, Evert PA2KW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED
In the interest of future readers, here is what I found. I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended. In fact, they warn of going over that level. However, when you turn on the SUB RX, the signal is split and you lose 3db. This can be heard in the headphones. It seems it also affects the Line Out. When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in the right channel of the Line Out. I have no idea how linear the LIN OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in. Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx signal on the right channel. I am able to compensate for this by turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII. I wasn't able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play around with that some more. Buck k4ia On 4/29/2014 11:43 AM, Buck - k4ia via Elecraft wrote: Joe - that is what I have set up. If I turn on the Sub Rx and plug a set of headphones directly into the K3 Line Out jack in the back, I hear audio on the left channel only. So I don't think it is the MH cable pigtail. The problem seems to be in the K3. Sub Rx works fine in the headphone jack on the front. This is the first time I have tried to listen to the Sub Rx through the rear Line Out jack. I was hoping it was a menu setting I was missing. I will check L2. I guess you are telling me it could be open? Why would that happen? Buck k4ia On 4/29/2014 9:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Buck, Where (how) are you connecting between the K3 and MK II? You should use a the stereo audio cable supplied with MK II to connect the 3.5mm pigtail on the LINE OUT plug of the DB3-EL-K23 or K3R cable set to the Sub RX jack on the back of MK II. Sub RX audio is present *only* when the SUB icon is displayed on the K3 display (DUAL or DIVERSITY). If the Sub RX is on and you have audio in right headphone connected to the headphone jack but no audio in the right channel (ring) of the LINE OUT (or tip of the pigtail on the DB37-EL-K23/K3R) I would check L2 on the KIO3 Audio I/O board. Check for audio directly at the LINE OUT jack and at the pigtail in case you've snagged the pigtail and broken a wire in either jack. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/29/2014 8:22 AM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote: I played with that setting to no avail. I am going into a Microham KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx. If I plug headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer or MKII. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: hmmm, what is your Line Out set to? mine is the recommended 010 also is the computer a desktop or laptop? On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote: Thanks Sam but that isn't it. I get the Sub RX audio just fine in the headphones. What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out jack on the back of the radio. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED
Thank you I have been watching this thread From: Buck - k4ia via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED In the interest of future readers, here is what I found. I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended. In fact, they warn of going over that level. However, when you turn on the SUB RX, the signal is split and you lose 3db. This can be heard in the headphones. It seems it also affects the Line Out. When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in the right channel of the Line Out. I have no idea how linear the LIN OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in. Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx signal on the right channel. I am able to compensate for this by turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII. I wasn't able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play around with that some more. Buck k4ia On 4/29/2014 11:43 AM, Buck - k4ia via Elecraft wrote: Joe - that is what I have set up. If I turn on the Sub Rx and plug a set of headphones directly into the K3 Line Out jack in the back, I hear audio on the left channel only. So I don't think it is the MH cable pigtail. The problem seems to be in the K3. Sub Rx works fine in the headphone jack on the front. This is the first time I have tried to listen to the Sub Rx through the rear Line Out jack. I was hoping it was a menu setting I was missing. I will check L2. I guess you are telling me it could be open? Why would that happen? Buck k4ia On 4/29/2014 9:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Buck, Where (how) are you connecting between the K3 and MK II? You should use a the stereo audio cable supplied with MK II to connect the 3.5mm pigtail on the LINE OUT plug of the DB3-EL-K23 or K3R cable set to the Sub RX jack on the back of MK II. Sub RX audio is present *only* when the SUB icon is displayed on the K3 display (DUAL or DIVERSITY). If the Sub RX is on and you have audio in right headphone connected to the headphone jack but no audio in the right channel (ring) of the LINE OUT (or tip of the pigtail on the DB37-EL-K23/K3R) I would check L2 on the KIO3 Audio I/O board. Check for audio directly at the LINE OUT jack and at the pigtail in case you've snagged the pigtail and broken a wire in either jack. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/29/2014 8:22 AM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote: I played with that setting to no avail. I am going into a Microham KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx. If I plug headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer or MKII. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: hmmm, what is your Line Out set to? mine is the recommended 010 also is the computer a desktop or laptop? On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote: Thanks Sam but that isn't it. I get the Sub RX audio just fine in the headphones. What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out jack on the back of the radio. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED
Sorry Buck but it doesn't sound solved to me. I've been following this thread and have just for sanities sake done the following test: Line out = 7 Main and Sub RX set to frequency of my XG1 (approx 7040kHz) XG1 set to 1uV out Spectrogram set to stereo input Windows sound mixer balanced L R channel Both Sub and Main RX on CW both with 500Hz roofers and 400Hz DSP, both filter gain compensation setting 4dB Main RX level from Spectrogram = -82dB Sub RX level from Spectrogram = -85dB If it turn off Sub RX, main RX level increases to -79dB Clearly there are measurement calibration issues here, I didn't inject a fixed level test tone into each of the LR channels on the PC to check the balance. Never the less I would conclude there is still something very wrong with your line out. Regards, Mike VP8NO snip In the interest of future readers, here is what I found. I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended. In fact, they warn of going over that level. However, when you turn on the SUB RX, the signal is split and you lose 3db. This can be heard in the headphones. It seems it also affects the Line Out. When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in the right channel of the Line Out. I have no idea how linear the LIN OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in. Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx signal on the right channel. I am able to compensate for this by turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII. I wasn't able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play around with that some more. Buck __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED
Mike's observations are the same as mine. Using the XG-3 on 20 meters and slow AGC, I see no change in audio output on left (Main RX) when dual RX is enabled. With dual RX enabled, both audio channels are the same level. MENU: LIN OUT is NOR 10. and MK II has RX Main/RX Sub at the same point (12:00 for measurements/comparisons like this - typically 10:00 for normal operation). Windows Sound Control Panel - Recording Devices - Line (microHAM CODEC) Levels tab line level is set to 40 and balance is set for 40 on each channel. Advanced tab |Default Format is set to: 2 channel, 16 bit, 48000 Hz (DVD Quality). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/30/2014 1:37 PM, Mike Harris wrote: Sorry Buck but it doesn't sound solved to me. I've been following this thread and have just for sanities sake done the following test: Line out = 7 Main and Sub RX set to frequency of my XG1 (approx 7040kHz) XG1 set to 1uV out Spectrogram set to stereo input Windows sound mixer balanced L R channel Both Sub and Main RX on CW both with 500Hz roofers and 400Hz DSP, both filter gain compensation setting 4dB Main RX level from Spectrogram = -82dB Sub RX level from Spectrogram = -85dB If it turn off Sub RX, main RX level increases to -79dB Clearly there are measurement calibration issues here, I didn't inject a fixed level test tone into each of the LR channels on the PC to check the balance. Never the less I would conclude there is still something very wrong with your line out. Regards, Mike VP8NO snip In the interest of future readers, here is what I found. I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended. In fact, they warn of going over that level. However, when you turn on the SUB RX, the signal is split and you lose 3db. This can be heard in the headphones. It seems it also affects the Line Out. When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in the right channel of the Line Out. I have no idea how linear the LIN OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in. Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx signal on the right channel. I am able to compensate for this by turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII. I wasn't able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play around with that some more. Buck __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
Hi Buck, You are talking about Line-out of the K3. First question is: is it working ok with your headset on? So can you hear the subRX that way? If that is working as it should then do the next check: First thing to look at: To what is the line-out connected? If you connect it to a stereo computer speaker set, that is a good way to check. (Checking it by connecting it to a laptop mic-input is not a good check. Some laptops have a mono mic input.) 73 Arie PA3A K4ia via Elecraft schreef op 29-4-2014 4:32: I am trying to set up the K3 Sub Rx audio to come out on the right Line Out. I hear nothing on that side. The Main Audio is fine on the left side. I can't find anything about a setting that would control this. I thought it would be automatic. Can someone point me in the right direction please? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
Hi Arie, make sure that the SUB is set up correctly (on the correct antenna-main or aux) by using the B SET. Let us know how you make out..73 Ken VE3YK On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:34:09 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A p...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi Buck, You are talking about Line-out of the K3. First question is: is it working ok with your headset on? So can you hear the subRX that way? If that is working as it should then do the next check: First thing to look at: To what is the line-out connected? If you connect it to a stereo computer speaker set, that is a good way to check. (Checking it by connecting it to a laptop mic-input is not a good check. Some laptops have a mono mic input.) 73 Arie PA3A K4ia via Elecraft schreef op 29-4-2014 4:32: I am trying to set up the K3 Sub Rx audio to come out on the right Line Out. I hear nothing on that side. The Main Audio is fine on the left side. I can't find anything about a setting that would control this. I thought it would be automatic. Can someone point me in the right direction please? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kenve...@yahoo.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
Thanks Sam but that isn't it. I get the Sub RX audio just fine in the headphones. What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out jack on the back of the radio. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 On 4/28/2014 10:57 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: also you might have the sub set to AUX Antenna with no antenna on it? hold RX ANT button and watch to see the vfo b window say MAIN On 4/28/2014 9:54 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: maybe you have the 2m module and were using RF/SQL for squelch? page 37 of manual tells all the tricks SUB AF gain normally sets the sub’s volume level. Alternatively, SUB AF can be used as a main/sub balance control (see CONFIG:SUB AF). With stereo headphones or dual speakers, you'll normally hear main on the left and sub on the right. CONFIG:L-MIX-R selects various alternate combinations of main/sub audio mixing. CONFIG:SPKRS must be set to 2 if you use stereo speakers; otherwise, set it to 1. SUB RF gain normally sets the sub receiver’s RF GAIN level. If this knob is assigned to main/sub squelch (CONFIG:SQ MAIN), then RF gain for main/sub is controlled by the main RF gain control. hope that helps On 4/28/2014 9:32 PM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote: I am trying to set up the K3 Sub Rx audio to come out on the right Line Out. I hear nothing on that side. The Main Audio is fine on the left side. I can't find anything about a setting that would control this. I thought it would be automatic. Can someone point me in the right direction please? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
I played with that setting to no avail. I am going into a Microham KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx. If I plug headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer or MKII. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: hmmm, what is your Line Out set to? mine is the recommended 010 also is the computer a desktop or laptop? On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote: Thanks Sam but that isn't it. I get the Sub RX audio just fine in the headphones. What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out jack on the back of the radio. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
Buck, Either plug known working computer speakers directly into the line out jack or play some source into the input of the MicroHam KeyerII to make certain it is working as you expect. Often added devices do not behave as we expect them to. Check those out before concluding the K3 is the problem. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/29/2014 8:22 AM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote: I played with that setting to no avail. I am going into a Microham KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx. If I plug headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer or MKII. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
I use the exact same setup, K3, MH MKII keyer, sub RX set to main, headphones connected to front panel, all ok here. As someone stated, do make sure the sub is set to MAIN and NOT auxiliary. Ken.. G0ORH Sent from my iPad On 29 Apr 2014, at 13:22, K4ia via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I played with that setting to no avail. I am going into a Microham KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx. If I plug headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer or MKII. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: hmmm, what is your Line Out set to? mine is the recommended 010 also is the computer a desktop or laptop? On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote: Thanks Sam but that isn't it. I get the Sub RX audio just fine in the headphones. What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out jack on the back of the radio. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to g0...@sky.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
Buck, Where (how) are you connecting between the K3 and MK II? You should use a the stereo audio cable supplied with MK II to connect the 3.5mm pigtail on the LINE OUT plug of the DB3-EL-K23 or K3R cable set to the Sub RX jack on the back of MK II. Sub RX audio is present *only* when the SUB icon is displayed on the K3 display (DUAL or DIVERSITY). If the Sub RX is on and you have audio in right headphone connected to the headphone jack but no audio in the right channel (ring) of the LINE OUT (or tip of the pigtail on the DB37-EL-K23/K3R) I would check L2 on the KIO3 Audio I/O board. Check for audio directly at the LINE OUT jack and at the pigtail in case you've snagged the pigtail and broken a wire in either jack. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/29/2014 8:22 AM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote: I played with that setting to no avail. I am going into a Microham KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx. If I plug headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer or MKII. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: hmmm, what is your Line Out set to? mine is the recommended 010 also is the computer a desktop or laptop? On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote: Thanks Sam but that isn't it. I get the Sub RX audio just fine in the headphones. What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out jack on the back of the radio. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
Joe - that is what I have set up. If I turn on the Sub Rx and plug a set of headphones directly into the K3 Line Out jack in the back, I hear audio on the left channel only. So I don't think it is the MH cable pigtail. The problem seems to be in the K3. Sub Rx works fine in the headphone jack on the front. This is the first time I have tried to listen to the Sub Rx through the rear Line Out jack. I was hoping it was a menu setting I was missing. I will check L2. I guess you are telling me it could be open? Why would that happen? Buck k4ia On 4/29/2014 9:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Buck, Where (how) are you connecting between the K3 and MK II? You should use a the stereo audio cable supplied with MK II to connect the 3.5mm pigtail on the LINE OUT plug of the DB3-EL-K23 or K3R cable set to the Sub RX jack on the back of MK II. Sub RX audio is present *only* when the SUB icon is displayed on the K3 display (DUAL or DIVERSITY). If the Sub RX is on and you have audio in right headphone connected to the headphone jack but no audio in the right channel (ring) of the LINE OUT (or tip of the pigtail on the DB37-EL-K23/K3R) I would check L2 on the KIO3 Audio I/O board. Check for audio directly at the LINE OUT jack and at the pigtail in case you've snagged the pigtail and broken a wire in either jack. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/29/2014 8:22 AM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote: I played with that setting to no avail. I am going into a Microham KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx. If I plug headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer or MKII. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: hmmm, what is your Line Out set to? mine is the recommended 010 also is the computer a desktop or laptop? On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote: Thanks Sam but that isn't it. I get the Sub RX audio just fine in the headphones. What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out jack on the back of the radio. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
If I turn on the Sub Rx and plug a set of headphones directly into the K3 Line Out jack in the back, I hear audio on the left channel only. If you hear audio only on left/main when connected directly to the Line Out jack you are probably correct but try a pair of powered (computer) speakers to make sure the level isn't low. So I don't think it is the MH cable pigtail FYI - the Sub Rx pigtail is Sub RX only with audio on the tip to match to the single channel connections of the Sub RX jack on MK II (and MK2R+). I will check L2. I guess you are telling me it could be open? Why would that happen? Yes, L2 could be open - of course you could also have bent missing pins on the KIO3 boards and on the front panel. However, I have seen several of the KIO3 RF chokes open and have never found a good explanation. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/29/2014 11:43 AM, Buck - k4ia wrote: Joe - that is what I have set up. If I turn on the Sub Rx and plug a set of headphones directly into the K3 Line Out jack in the back, I hear audio on the left channel only. So I don't think it is the MH cable pigtail. The problem seems to be in the K3. Sub Rx works fine in the headphone jack on the front. This is the first time I have tried to listen to the Sub Rx through the rear Line Out jack. I was hoping it was a menu setting I was missing. I will check L2. I guess you are telling me it could be open? Why would that happen? Buck k4ia On 4/29/2014 9:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Buck, Where (how) are you connecting between the K3 and MK II? You should use a the stereo audio cable supplied with MK II to connect the 3.5mm pigtail on the LINE OUT plug of the DB3-EL-K23 or K3R cable set to the Sub RX jack on the back of MK II. Sub RX audio is present *only* when the SUB icon is displayed on the K3 display (DUAL or DIVERSITY). If the Sub RX is on and you have audio in right headphone connected to the headphone jack but no audio in the right channel (ring) of the LINE OUT (or tip of the pigtail on the DB37-EL-K23/K3R) I would check L2 on the KIO3 Audio I/O board. Check for audio directly at the LINE OUT jack and at the pigtail in case you've snagged the pigtail and broken a wire in either jack. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/29/2014 8:22 AM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote: I played with that setting to no avail. I am going into a Microham KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx. If I plug headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer or MKII. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: hmmm, what is your Line Out set to? mine is the recommended 010 also is the computer a desktop or laptop? On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote: Thanks Sam but that isn't it. I get the Sub RX audio just fine in the headphones. What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out jack on the back of the radio. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
I am trying to set up the K3 Sub Rx audio to come out on the right Line Out. I hear nothing on that side. The Main Audio is fine on the left side. I can't find anything about a setting that would control this. I thought it would be automatic. Can someone point me in the right direction please? -- Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out
Can you hear the subrx in the headphones or speaker? - 73, Stan - KR7C -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Sub-RX-audio-to-right-Line-Out-tp7588094p7588097.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SUB RX AUDIO
When I go split and try to listen to the sub rx audio - 9 times out of 10 its dead . If I just cycle power - its there and will stay there and N1MM will enable/disable sub rx as well. What did I miss ? Hank K7HP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SUB RX AUDIO
Hi Hank Check what antenna are you using in the SUB RX, if you don´t have a AUX antenna you must select MAIN antenna on SUB RX also 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -Mensaje original- De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Pfizenmayer Enviado el: viernes, 04 de abril de 2014 01:44 p.m. Para: Elecraft List Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SUB RX AUDIO When I go split and try to listen to the sub rx audio - 9 times out of 10 its dead . If I just cycle power - its there and will stay there and N1MM will enable/disable sub rx as well. What did I miss ? Hank K7HP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to cx6vm.jo...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 SUB Rx audio to LEFT spkr??
Because CONFIG: SPKRS got set to 1! D'oh! I've changed it back to 2 and saved my configuration, like I should have done long ago... Eric VA7DZ __ Original Message Subject:K3 SUB Rx audio to LEFT spkr?? Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:40:01 + From: ERIC MANNING emann...@cs.uvic.ca To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net I wonder why my SUB Rx audio is routed to the LEFT spkr, together with MAIN audio?? ON headphones, all is normal - MAIN to LEFT, SUB to RIGHT. [I have SUB AF set to BALANCE] Eric VA7DZ K3 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 SUB Rx audio to LEFT spkr??
I wonder why my SUB Rx audio is routed to the LEFT spkr, together with MAIN audio?? ON headphones, all is normal - MAIN to LEFT, SUB to RIGHT. [I have SUB AF set to BALANCE] Eric VA7DZ K3 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 SUB Rx audio to LEFT spkr??
On 2/20/2012 2:40 PM, ERIC MANNING wrote: I wonder why my SUB Rx audio is routed to the LEFT spkr, together with MAIN audio?? ON headphones, all is normal - MAIN to LEFT, SUB to RIGHT. [I have SUB AF set to BALANCE] Could be a configuration error. Do you have SPKRS set to 1? If so, set it to 2. Gus KB0YH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 sub rx audio, etc.
Is there a mono option? That is where the sub and main rx audio appears in both ears? If no antenna tuner, must one install the BNC connector? I don't see ever needing to connect the sub rx antenna to any but the transmit antenna. The firmware makes one choose either BNC or antenna tuner. There is no choice for none. Brian/K3KO -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-sub-rx-audio%2C-etc.-tp534461p534461.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 sub rx audio, etc.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:11:35 -0700 (PDT), alsopb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a mono option? That is where the sub and main rx audio appears in both ears? If no antenna tuner, must one install the BNC connector? I don't see ever needing to connect the sub rx antenna to any but the transmit antenna. The firmware makes one choose either BNC or antenna tuner. There is no choice for none. Brian/K3KO I'm confused. Isn't the antenna tuner connected to TX antenna? Are you saying you don't want to be able to distinguish between the second RX and the MAIN RX? Suppose I was working cross band and had it the way you want it. How would I be able to determine which band I was hearing? Or if I were to work split in a pile up, how would I know if that carrier I hear was on top of the DX or on his listening frequency. That would really make it hard on the pileup police. I really would like to know why you want to convert it to mono. No kidding. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 sub rx audio, etc.
If no antenna tuner, must one install the BNC connector? I don't see ever needing to connect the sub rx antenna to any but the transmit antenna. The firmware makes one choose either BNC or antenna tuner. There is no choice for none. This is for specifying the alternate antenna input for the KRX3. Not selecting the alternate antenna input is none. I've found all sorts of uses for the BNC that I didn't envision when I installed it. Since you don't have the KAT3, I encourage you to seriously consider adding the BNC with the KRX3. It comes with the KRX3 and only costs another 30 minutes or so in the installation. I had my KRX3 initially set up with the KAT3. Later in the development and testing cycle the BNC cable became available, and I installed it. I'm leaving it with the BNC! 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 sub rx audio, etc.
- Original Message - From: Tom Childers, N5GE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 sub rx audio, etc. On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:11:35 -0700 (PDT), alsopb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a mono option? That is where the sub and main rx audio appears in both ears? If no antenna tuner, must one install the BNC connector? I don't see ever needing to connect the sub rx antenna to any but the transmit antenna. The firmware makes one choose either BNC or antenna tuner. There is no choice for none. Brian/K3KO I'm confused. Isn't the antenna tuner connected to TX antenna? Are you saying you don't want to be able to distinguish between the second RX and the MAIN RX? Suppose I was working cross band and had it the way you want it. How would I be able to determine which band I was hearing? Or if I were to work split in a pile up, how would I know if that carrier I hear was on top of the DX or on his listening frequency. That would really make it hard on the pileup police. I really would like to know why you want to convert it to mono. No kidding. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq I'm not sure why you would want to select 'none' for the second RX antenna You wouldn't hear much. It appears the SUB RX can have the same antenna as the first RX or the BNC below ANT 2 for a separate antenna. We used to go to Zone 2 up on James Bay for CQ WW SSB with either a TenTec Omni D or a Corsair (it was years ago) and on 40M we would TX around 7050 and listen 7050 7195 with the remote VFO. It mixed audio to mono headphones. Didn't really care what freq the station was calling on - just work them. Hopefully the EU VE stations were on 7050 and the US stations were on 195! Some people might find left ear / right ear from main RX / sub RX .. I used to find that very distracting before I kind of became used to it. And . ask me my opinion in person some time about my thoughts on pileup police . About the same as DX nets .. but that's not a topic for here! :^} 73HankK8DD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 sub rx audio, etc.
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:32:20 -0700, Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If no antenna tuner, must one install the BNC connector? I don't see ever needing to connect the sub rx antenna to any but the transmit antenna. The firmware makes one choose either BNC or antenna tuner. There is no choice for none. This is for specifying the alternate antenna input for the KRX3. Not selecting the alternate antenna input is none. I've found all sorts of uses for the BNC that I didn't envision when I installed it. Since you don't have the KAT3, I encourage you to seriously consider adding the BNC with the KRX3. It comes with the KRX3 and only costs another 30 minutes or so in the installation. I had my KRX3 initially set up with the KAT3. Later in the development and testing cycle the BNC cable became available, and I installed it. I'm leaving it with the BNC! 73, Lyle KK7P [snip] Me too, Kyle. I'm going with the BNC connector... Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
