Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery delay

[George Danner]

Sam,
I was at the end of group 2. According to the
https://groups.io/g/CreativeK4ShippingStatus/topics Elecraft has delivered
about 100 units since mine in January.
I waited just over a year for my K4.
Having bought a K3 over 10 years ago, I have always been impressed by the
service from them. Both by how the owners pipe in on the email reflector
and service will spend the time on the phone to troubleshoot when the
problem ended up being me!
Personally - I was happy that Elecraft used their limited resources to
deliver K4s rather than spending time making us feel better about waiting.
Believe me - you will forget the time waiting and be happy with the K4.
Join the io group to see where you stand if that is important to you - join
the CreativeK4ShippingStatus group.

73 George AI4VZ

On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 12:34 PM Sam Sargent via Elecraft <
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>
> I readthe Elecraft (EC) Digest regularly and find many articles
> interesting, and someuseful.  The topic“K4 and Delivery Delays” has
> appeared recently but I didn’t see anyone ask thequestions that are in my
> mind.  I placedmy order for a K4D in December 2021 and paid the $1500
> deposit.  I received an email acknowledgment from ECsaying that my order is
> part of the group 3. The EC web site indicates that all orders for K4s in
> group 1 and Group 2have been shipped, and that hams who are in Group 3 have
> received emails.  IMHO EC should provide more information tohams who have
> ordered K4s, especially those of us who have invested theoptional $1500. I
> believe that the ESD for the H4D that I ordered was lastprojected as June
> or July 2022.  In thisday of digital communication, it does not seem like
> too much to ask that ECprovide hams who have ponied up the $1500, receive
> regular (monthly) updatesthat show how many orders are in the que ahead of
> theirs, and an updatedEstimated Delivery date, and final cost.  I look
> forward to a thoughtful answer to myquestions. N1OVA
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery delay

[Henk Remijn PA5KT via Elecraft]

You might checkout this group:

https://groups.io/g/CreativeK4ShippingStatus/topics

You dont need to subscribe, you can just read the messages.

They owner has created a pretty good forecast on delivery.

Henk


Op 3-4-2022 om 20:29 schreef Pete Smith N4ZR:
You could add on "what options did you order?", since it's not hard to 
envision an option being held up by a missing components, and X many 
complete radios delayed while awaiting that option.


73, Pete N4ZR
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web server at .
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"retail" DX cluster.

On 4/3/2022 12:42 PM, Julia Tuttle wrote:

Technically you did not ask any questions.

If I were in your shoes, I too would like some more transparency into
things, but I'm not sure "how many people are ahead of me in the 
queue" is
the right question -- I'd guess they build in batches and many delays 
are
less "there are 42 radios ahead of you" and more "we're waiting on 
this one

part for this board before we can finish and ship this batch of 50” or
perhaps "we're finishing this batch of 50 and then we have two more 
batches

and then yours but also parts availability is a crapshoot".

In any case, I wish you a speedy delivery, and Elecraft safe and healthy
employees and plentiful parts inventory.

73,

Julie

On Sun, Apr 3, 2022, 12:34 Sam Sargent via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:


I readthe Elecraft (EC) Digest regularly and find many articles
interesting, and someuseful.  The topic“K4 and Delivery Delays” has
appeared recently but I didn’t see anyone ask thequestions that are 
in my

mind.  I placedmy order for a K4D in December 2021 and paid the $1500
deposit.  I received an email acknowledgment from ECsaying that my 
order is
part of the group 3. The EC web site indicates that all orders for 
K4s in
group 1 and Group 2have been shipped, and that hams who are in Group 
3 have
received emails.  IMHO EC should provide more information tohams who 
have
ordered K4s, especially those of us who have invested theoptional 
$1500. I
believe that the ESD for the H4D that I ordered was lastprojected as 
June
or July 2022.  In thisday of digital communication, it does not seem 
like
too much to ask that ECprovide hams who have ponied up the $1500, 
receive
regular (monthly) updatesthat show how many orders are in the que 
ahead of

theirs, and an updatedEstimated Delivery date, and final cost.  I look
forward to a thoughtful answer to myquestions. N1OVA

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery delay

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

You could add on "what options did you order?", since it's not hard to 
envision an option being held up by a missing components, and X many 
complete radios delayed while awaiting that option.


73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at .
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 4/3/2022 12:42 PM, Julia Tuttle wrote:

Technically you did not ask any questions.

If I were in your shoes, I too would like some more transparency into
things, but I'm not sure "how many people are ahead of me in the queue" is
the right question -- I'd guess they build in batches and many delays are
less "there are 42 radios ahead of you" and more "we're waiting on this one
part for this board before we can finish and ship this batch of 50” or
perhaps "we're finishing this batch of 50 and then we have two more batches
and then yours but also parts availability is a crapshoot".

In any case, I wish you a speedy delivery, and Elecraft safe and healthy
employees and plentiful parts inventory.

73,

Julie

On Sun, Apr 3, 2022, 12:34 Sam Sargent via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:


I readthe Elecraft (EC) Digest regularly and find many articles
interesting, and someuseful.  The topic“K4 and Delivery Delays” has
appeared recently but I didn’t see anyone ask thequestions that are in my
mind.  I placedmy order for a K4D in December 2021 and paid the $1500
deposit.  I received an email acknowledgment from ECsaying that my order is
part of the group 3. The EC web site indicates that all orders for K4s in
group 1 and Group 2have been shipped, and that hams who are in Group 3 have
received emails.  IMHO EC should provide more information tohams who have
ordered K4s, especially those of us who have invested theoptional $1500. I
believe that the ESD for the H4D that I ordered was lastprojected as June
or July 2022.  In thisday of digital communication, it does not seem like
too much to ask that ECprovide hams who have ponied up the $1500, receive
regular (monthly) updatesthat show how many orders are in the que ahead of
theirs, and an updatedEstimated Delivery date, and final cost.  I look
forward to a thoughtful answer to myquestions. N1OVA

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery delay

[Julia Tuttle]

Technically you did not ask any questions.

If I were in your shoes, I too would like some more transparency into
things, but I'm not sure "how many people are ahead of me in the queue" is
the right question -- I'd guess they build in batches and many delays are
less "there are 42 radios ahead of you" and more "we're waiting on this one
part for this board before we can finish and ship this batch of 50” or
perhaps "we're finishing this batch of 50 and then we have two more batches
and then yours but also parts availability is a crapshoot".

In any case, I wish you a speedy delivery, and Elecraft safe and healthy
employees and plentiful parts inventory.

73,

Julie

On Sun, Apr 3, 2022, 12:34 Sam Sargent via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

>
> I readthe Elecraft (EC) Digest regularly and find many articles
> interesting, and someuseful.  The topic“K4 and Delivery Delays” has
> appeared recently but I didn’t see anyone ask thequestions that are in my
> mind.  I placedmy order for a K4D in December 2021 and paid the $1500
> deposit.  I received an email acknowledgment from ECsaying that my order is
> part of the group 3. The EC web site indicates that all orders for K4s in
> group 1 and Group 2have been shipped, and that hams who are in Group 3 have
> received emails.  IMHO EC should provide more information tohams who have
> ordered K4s, especially those of us who have invested theoptional $1500. I
> believe that the ESD for the H4D that I ordered was lastprojected as June
> or July 2022.  In thisday of digital communication, it does not seem like
> too much to ask that ECprovide hams who have ponied up the $1500, receive
> regular (monthly) updatesthat show how many orders are in the que ahead of
> theirs, and an updatedEstimated Delivery date, and final cost.  I look
> forward to a thoughtful answer to myquestions. N1OVA
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[Elecraft] K4 Delivery delay

[Sam Sargent via Elecraft]

I readthe Elecraft (EC) Digest regularly and find many articles interesting, 
and someuseful.  The topic“K4 and Delivery Delays” has appeared recently but I 
didn’t see anyone ask thequestions that are in my mind.  I placedmy order for a 
K4D in December 2021 and paid the $1500 deposit.  I received an email 
acknowledgment from ECsaying that my order is part of the group 3. The EC web 
site indicates that all orders for K4s in group 1 and Group 2have been shipped, 
and that hams who are in Group 3 have received emails.  IMHO EC should provide 
more information tohams who have ordered K4s, especially those of us who have 
invested theoptional $1500. I believe that the ESD for the H4D that I ordered 
was lastprojected as June or July 2022.  In thisday of digital communication, 
it does not seem like too much to ask that ECprovide hams who have ponied up 
the $1500, receive regular (monthly) updatesthat show how many orders are in 
the que ahead of theirs, and an updatedEstimated Delivery date, and final cost. 
 I look forward to a thoughtful answer to myquestions. N1OVA

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Gordon LaPoint]

Fred,
   What was the answer, please?
Thanks,
Gordon - N1MGO

On 8/17/2021 18:01 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
OK, apologies for starting this thread.  All I was looking for were 
answers to sort of related questions:


If I were to order a K4 now, will it work into my K3-RRC1258 remote to 
the K3-RRC1258 at W7RN?


A good friend answered directly.  I have no more questions. Certainly 
did not want to stir up the Flex vs Elecraft pot.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County 


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Fred Jensen]

OK, apologies for starting this thread.  All I was looking for were 
answers to sort of related questions:


If I were to order a K4 now, will it work into my K3-RRC1258 remote to 
the K3-RRC1258 at W7RN?


A good friend answered directly.  I have no more questions. Certainly 
did not want to stir up the Flex vs Elecraft pot.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/16/2021 9:04 PM, David Gilbert wrote:


I'm not missing any point other than your continued deflection with 
that Flex wall of text, and I certainly know that software development 
takes time and people.  My only point has been that Elecraft is 
shipping K4's without the software that they at least implied already 
existed (they demo'd it!) and that obviously other other (probably 
more important) efforts are taking precedence over its completion.  
Why do you keep acting like I have said anything else??


Dave AB7E


On 8/16/2021 8:33 PM, Barry Baines wrote:

David:


On Aug 16, 2021, at 10:27 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:


Well, I'm not particularly interested in Flex's history, but that 
seems to be a pretty long winded agreement that there probably isn't 
any timetable for the remote capability that Elecraft appeared to 
demonstrate in their video upon the release of the K4.


As an aside, last I checked software development wasn't dependent 
upon piece part supply.  Priorities are priorities, though ... I'm 
just saying that the remote capability doesn't appear to be very 
high on the list.  That's obviously Elecraft's choice, but for me 
the remote capability was probably the one key attribute that might 
convince me to switch from my K3 to the K4.  For everything else 
that actually matters to me in the way of raw performance, the K3 
seems as good or better.
Perhaps you’re missing my point.  Yes, hardware production is 
dependent upon parts supply, but the focus of development is software 
both in terms of user interface as well as the ‘internals’ of 
managing “Software" Defined Radio systems is significantly greater 
than prior Elecraft products.  It took Flex nearly five years after 
initial product announcement to provide Wide Area Network remote 
capability for their Flex-6 products.  When it came out in 2017, 
it changed the entire nature of Flex products.  Remote operation is 
what is driving Flex users today.


Elecraft presumably understands this, but clearly there are other 
software development concerns they’re currently focusing upon.  And 
how do you balance the need to get hardware product out-the-door (to 
generate revenue) versus software development that has been 
implicitly promised but is presumably initially paid for with a 
hardware purchase?  The priority is presumably to get product 
out-the-door…  And as good as job as Elecraft did on K4 software 
development before product release, there will be ‘bugs’ found by 
users as the user base expands.  Thus, there is also a continuing 
need for “software maintenance.”


I have no idea what ‘software licensing’ model Elecraft may pursue 
down the road.  Will ‘remote operation’ be a separate product to be 
purchased when it is available?  The version of SmartSDR that users 
obtained when they received their Flex-6xxx eventually was replaced 
by an ‘enhanced’ version that offers new features with a new version 
number that requires payment for a new license if the user wants the 
enhanced capabilities.  The license is associated with the radio, not 
the user.  Thus, I went from v1.xxx when the Flex was delivered in 
November 2013 and later paid for v2.xxx when "Smartlink” (Remote 
operation) was introduced in 2017.  Later, Flex offered “Multiflex” 
under SmartSDR v3.xxx that I elected not to purchase and my current 
SmartSDR v2.7.6 supports my current needs.  “Versions” reflect new 
capabilities (e.g. “Smartlink” and “Multiflex”) while bug fixes 
within a version are provided as part of the existing license.  This 
pricing model is common in the computer industry and it does provide 
a revenue stream to help support continued software development.  In 
addition, I paid for SmartSDR for Mac and SmartSDR for iOS licenses 
developed outside of Flex because they offer features I was willing 
to pay for with the developer promising future updates without 
additional fees.


Thus, don’t overlook the significance of software development both in 
terms of development time and expense.  I presume that the software 
development effort for the K4 is significantly greater than prior 
Elecraft products requiring special skills (such as FPGA programming) 
and more extensive development efforts than in the past that takes 
time and resources to successfully implement.


FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW/1



73,
Dave   AB7E


On 8/16/2021 5:55 PM, Barry Baines wrote:

David:


On Aug 16, 2021, at 7:28 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:


Apparently not.  I recently asked on this list if new K4 users 
could tell us how well the K4 worked for remote operations.  The 
only replies I got 

Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Jim Brown]

On 8/16/2021 5:55 PM, Barry Baines via Elecraft wrote:

The amplifier was returned to Flex in December 2018 due to warranty recall 
(issue with six meters).


Release of the KPA1500 was delayed by the need to fix an issue on 6M. I 
learned this from someone in a Visalia booth. Mine has been working 
flawlessly for more than a year. Prior to that, I made extensive use of 
a KPA500 and KAT500, and still use them for county expeditions. Elecraft 
does extensive beta testing before they start shipping products.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[John Harper]

And 9 years later, your F6700 is still 2nd on Sherwood's list.

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com

> 1. Hamvention 2012 was when Flex announced the Flex-6700 transceiver
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[David Gilbert]

I'm not missing any point other than your continued deflection with that 
Flex wall of text, and I certainly know that software development takes 
time and people.  My only point has been that Elecraft is shipping K4's 
without the software that they at least implied already existed (they 
demo'd it!) and that obviously other other (probably more important) 
efforts are taking precedence over its completion.  Why do you keep 
acting like I have said anything else??


Dave AB7E


On 8/16/2021 8:33 PM, Barry Baines wrote:

David:


On Aug 16, 2021, at 10:27 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:


Well, I'm not particularly interested in Flex's history, but that seems to be a 
pretty long winded agreement that there probably isn't any timetable for the 
remote capability that Elecraft appeared to demonstrate in their video upon the 
release of the K4.

As an aside, last I checked software development wasn't dependent upon piece 
part supply.  Priorities are priorities, though ... I'm just saying that the 
remote capability doesn't appear to be very high on the list.  That's obviously 
Elecraft's choice, but for me the remote capability was probably the one key 
attribute that might convince me to switch from my K3 to the K4.  For 
everything else that actually matters to me in the way of raw performance, the 
K3 seems as good or better.

Perhaps you’re missing my point.  Yes, hardware production is dependent upon parts 
supply, but the focus of development is software both in terms of user interface as 
well as the ‘internals’ of managing “Software" Defined Radio systems is 
significantly greater than prior Elecraft products.  It took Flex nearly five years 
after initial product announcement to provide Wide Area Network remote capability 
for their Flex-6 products.  When it came out in 2017, it changed the entire 
nature of Flex products.  Remote operation is what is driving Flex users today.

Elecraft presumably understands this, but clearly there are other software 
development concerns they’re currently focusing upon.  And how do you balance 
the need to get hardware product out-the-door (to generate revenue) versus 
software development that has been implicitly promised but is presumably 
initially paid for with a hardware purchase?  The priority is presumably to get 
product out-the-door…  And as good as job as Elecraft did on K4 software 
development before product release, there will be ‘bugs’ found by users as the 
user base expands.  Thus, there is also a continuing need for “software 
maintenance.”

I have no idea what ‘software licensing’ model Elecraft may pursue down the road.  
Will ‘remote operation’ be a separate product to be purchased when it is available?  
The version of SmartSDR that users obtained when they received their Flex-6xxx 
eventually was replaced by an ‘enhanced’ version that offers new features with a new 
version number that requires payment for a new license if the user wants the 
enhanced capabilities.  The license is associated with the radio, not the user.  
Thus, I went from v1.xxx when the Flex was delivered in November 2013 and later paid 
for v2.xxx when "Smartlink” (Remote operation) was introduced in 2017.  Later, 
Flex offered “Multiflex” under SmartSDR v3.xxx that I elected not to purchase and my 
current SmartSDR v2.7.6 supports my current needs.  “Versions” reflect new 
capabilities (e.g. “Smartlink” and “Multiflex”) while bug fixes within a version are 
provided as part of the existing license.  This pricing model is common in the 
computer industry and it does provide a revenue stream to help support continued 
software development.  In addition, I paid for SmartSDR for Mac and SmartSDR for iOS 
licenses developed outside of Flex because they offer features I was willing to pay 
for with the developer promising future updates without additional fees.

Thus, don’t overlook the significance of software development both in terms of 
development time and expense.  I presume that the software development effort 
for the K4 is significantly greater than prior Elecraft products requiring 
special skills (such as FPGA programming) and more extensive development 
efforts than in the past that takes time and resources to successfully 
implement.

FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW/1



73,
Dave   AB7E


On 8/16/2021 5:55 PM, Barry Baines wrote:

David:


On Aug 16, 2021, at 7:28 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:


Apparently not.  I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could tell us 
how well the K4 worked for remote operations.  The only replies I got said that 
Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the software for remote 
operation of the K4, and as best they could tell from the responses they had 
gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable for doing so.  Nobody from Elecraft 
bothered to answer my query, so they are probably correct.

We all know that Elecraft is facing huge challenges on all fronts in terms of 
product manufacturing and digging through the orders they’ve 

Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

David:

> On Aug 16, 2021, at 10:27 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, I'm not particularly interested in Flex's history, but that seems to be 
> a pretty long winded agreement that there probably isn't any timetable for 
> the remote capability that Elecraft appeared to demonstrate in their video 
> upon the release of the K4.
> 
> As an aside, last I checked software development wasn't dependent upon piece 
> part supply.  Priorities are priorities, though ... I'm just saying that the 
> remote capability doesn't appear to be very high on the list.  That's 
> obviously Elecraft's choice, but for me the remote capability was probably 
> the one key attribute that might convince me to switch from my K3 to the K4.  
> For everything else that actually matters to me in the way of raw 
> performance, the K3 seems as good or better.

Perhaps you’re missing my point.  Yes, hardware production is dependent upon 
parts supply, but the focus of development is software both in terms of user 
interface as well as the ‘internals’ of managing “Software" Defined Radio 
systems is significantly greater than prior Elecraft products.  It took Flex 
nearly five years after initial product announcement to provide Wide Area 
Network remote capability for their Flex-6 products.  When it came out in 
2017, it changed the entire nature of Flex products.  Remote operation is what 
is driving Flex users today.

Elecraft presumably understands this, but clearly there are other software 
development concerns they’re currently focusing upon.  And how do you balance 
the need to get hardware product out-the-door (to generate revenue) versus 
software development that has been implicitly promised but is presumably 
initially paid for with a hardware purchase?  The priority is presumably to get 
product out-the-door…  And as good as job as Elecraft did on K4 software 
development before product release, there will be ‘bugs’ found by users as the 
user base expands.  Thus, there is also a continuing need for “software 
maintenance.”   

I have no idea what ‘software licensing’ model Elecraft may pursue down the 
road.  Will ‘remote operation’ be a separate product to be purchased when it is 
available?  The version of SmartSDR that users obtained when they received 
their Flex-6xxx eventually was replaced by an ‘enhanced’ version that offers 
new features with a new version number that requires payment for a new license 
if the user wants the enhanced capabilities.  The license is associated with 
the radio, not the user.  Thus, I went from v1.xxx when the Flex was delivered 
in November 2013 and later paid for v2.xxx when "Smartlink” (Remote operation) 
was introduced in 2017.  Later, Flex offered “Multiflex” under SmartSDR v3.xxx 
that I elected not to purchase and my current SmartSDR v2.7.6 supports my 
current needs.  “Versions” reflect new capabilities (e.g. “Smartlink” and 
“Multiflex”) while bug fixes within a version are provided as part of the 
existing license.  This pricing model is common in the computer industry and it 
does provide a revenue stream to help support continued software development.  
In addition, I paid for SmartSDR for Mac and SmartSDR for iOS licenses 
developed outside of Flex because they offer features I was willing to pay for 
with the developer promising future updates without additional fees.  

Thus, don’t overlook the significance of software development both in terms of 
development time and expense.  I presume that the software development effort 
for the K4 is significantly greater than prior Elecraft products requiring 
special skills (such as FPGA programming) and more extensive development 
efforts than in the past that takes time and resources to successfully 
implement.   

FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW/1


> 
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> On 8/16/2021 5:55 PM, Barry Baines wrote:
>> David:
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2021, at 7:28 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apparently not.  I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could tell 
>>> us how well the K4 worked for remote operations.  The only replies I got 
>>> said that Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the software 
>>> for remote operation of the K4, and as best they could tell from the 
>>> responses they had gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable for doing 
>>> so.  Nobody from Elecraft bothered to answer my query, so they are probably 
>>> correct.
>> 
>> We all know that Elecraft is facing huge challenges on all fronts in terms 
>> of product manufacturing and digging through the orders they’ve received.
>> 
>> Elecraft is not alone in terms of announcing a vision and then expending the 
>> resources ($$$, technical development, production, distribution) to make it 
>> happen. Elecraft’s new vision is not easy to implement and will take time 
>> (years) to fulfill what has been announced.  The challenge is to provide a 
>> roadmap and then calibrate everyone’s expectations regarding when these new 
>> 

Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[David Gilbert]

Well, I'm not particularly interested in Flex's history, but that seems 
to be a pretty long winded agreement that there probably isn't any 
timetable for the remote capability that Elecraft appeared to 
demonstrate in their video upon the release of the K4.


As an aside, last I checked software development wasn't dependent upon 
piece part supply.  Priorities are priorities, though ... I'm just 
saying that the remote capability doesn't appear to be very high on the 
list.  That's obviously Elecraft's choice, but for me the remote 
capability was probably the one key attribute that might convince me to 
switch from my K3 to the K4.  For everything else that actually matters 
to me in the way of raw performance, the K3 seems as good or better.


73,
Dave   AB7E


On 8/16/2021 5:55 PM, Barry Baines wrote:

David:


On Aug 16, 2021, at 7:28 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:


Apparently not.  I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could tell us 
how well the K4 worked for remote operations.  The only replies I got said that 
Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the software for remote 
operation of the K4, and as best they could tell from the responses they had 
gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable for doing so.  Nobody from Elecraft 
bothered to answer my query, so they are probably correct.


We all know that Elecraft is facing huge challenges on all fronts in terms of 
product manufacturing and digging through the orders they’ve received.

Elecraft is not alone in terms of announcing a vision and then expending the 
resources ($$$, technical development, production, distribution) to make it 
happen. Elecraft’s new vision is not easy to implement and will take time 
(years) to fulfill what has been announced.  The challenge is to provide a 
roadmap and then calibrate everyone’s expectations regarding when these new 
capabilities will be available to users.  Like FlexRadio, Elecraft is building 
a new product line (“ecosystem”) that is fundamentally changing their product 
offereings and thus the user experience.

While I’m not suggesting that Elecraft’s ability to fulfill its roadmap mirrors 
the customer experience at FlexRadio, making the comparison at least provides a 
potential for context and recognizing that the technical and financial 
challenges can be significant.  In addition, events of the past 18 months has 
certainly impacted Elecraft more than Flex in terms of new product releases 
given what California has been going through not only with Covid-19 but fires 
and power outages along with subcontractor issues, parts issues, etc.

So with these thoughts in mind, I can recite my personal experience as an 
‘early adopter’ of the Flex-6000 series and the timeframes of what was promised 
and when it was delivered as I can recall offhand.

1.  Hamvention 2012 was when Flex announced the Flex-6700 transceiver and the 
evolution into a ‘client-server’ typography between radio (server) and 
connection device (PC, other user interface) as the client.  What caught my eye 
was the promise of remote operation via an ethernet connection that would 
greatly simplify the setup and operation of a remote station.  Given that my 
potential operating would be 90% of the time via remote operation, this was a 
big deal to me.   I ordered one in August 2012 as their ‘early purchase 
discount’ was expiring.

2.  My Flex-6700 was delivered in November 2013 with SmarSDR v1.x that was 
essentially useless for my purposes.  No provision for remote operation and 
only ‘basic functions.’  No promises were made as to when remote operation 
would be possible.

3.  In August 2014 I purchased the K3-KPA500-KAT500-K3/I0 mini with remote rig 
system from Elecraft at the Huntsville Hamfest.  10 days later product was 
delivered to me in Westborough, MA and I subsequently set it up at my station 
in Folkston, GA over labor day weekend.  I ordered the equipment because at 
this point I had no idea when Flex would have developed their remote capability 
and none of us were getting any younger.

Setup was simple and ‘it simply worked’.  Nothing fancy versus the potential of 
the Flex, but it performed as advertised.  Most importantly, i had a reliable 
remote station capability.

4. In May 2017 Flex announced SmartSDR v2.x with “Smartlink” that finally 
provided the wide area network remote capability that I was looking for.  Note 
that this was FIVE YEARS after initial product announcement.  By then SmartSDR 
had evolved to a level of maturity where the capabilities were meeting 
expectations….

5.  In February 2018 Flex announced the PGXL amplifier along with an external 
tuner capable of SO2R capability that would handle the output of the PGXL.  The 
PGXL was shown at the Orlando Hamcation but the tuner at this point was ‘vapor’ 
as it had not yet been designed.  I ordered mine the day that Hamcation opened.

6.  I received my PGXL in May 2018 following Hamvention.  Neither SmartSDR nor 
the Maestro were 

Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[K5WA]

Just as a reminder, there is a group set up specifically for creative whining 
and grousing at https://groups.io/g/CreativeK4ShippingStatus .   We also gather 
data in our spare time to generate a fairly accurate view of waiting times and 
deliveries.  The idea was to offload that kind of stuff from the technical 
discussions that occur on this and the K4 forum.

 

We welcome visitors that are amusing in one way or another.  

 

73,

Bob K5WA

 

 

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When we see what CA is up to, they may shut down Elecraft again, send them 
packing to home, put triple masks on, require two vaccines, 3 boosters and a 
partridge in a pear tree.  

 

Sorry, Couldn't help myself.  

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

David:

> On Aug 16, 2021, at 7:28 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> Apparently not.  I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could tell us 
> how well the K4 worked for remote operations.  The only replies I got said 
> that Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the software for 
> remote operation of the K4, and as best they could tell from the responses 
> they had gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable for doing so.  Nobody 
> from Elecraft bothered to answer my query, so they are probably correct.


We all know that Elecraft is facing huge challenges on all fronts in terms of 
product manufacturing and digging through the orders they’ve received. 

Elecraft is not alone in terms of announcing a vision and then expending the 
resources ($$$, technical development, production, distribution) to make it 
happen. Elecraft’s new vision is not easy to implement and will take time 
(years) to fulfill what has been announced.  The challenge is to provide a 
roadmap and then calibrate everyone’s expectations regarding when these new 
capabilities will be available to users.  Like FlexRadio, Elecraft is building 
a new product line (“ecosystem”) that is fundamentally changing their product 
offereings and thus the user experience.  

While I’m not suggesting that Elecraft’s ability to fulfill its roadmap mirrors 
the customer experience at FlexRadio, making the comparison at least provides a 
potential for context and recognizing that the technical and financial 
challenges can be significant.  In addition, events of the past 18 months has 
certainly impacted Elecraft more than Flex in terms of new product releases 
given what California has been going through not only with Covid-19 but fires 
and power outages along with subcontractor issues, parts issues, etc.  

So with these thoughts in mind, I can recite my personal experience as an 
‘early adopter’ of the Flex-6000 series and the timeframes of what was promised 
and when it was delivered as I can recall offhand.

1.  Hamvention 2012 was when Flex announced the Flex-6700 transceiver and the 
evolution into a ‘client-server’ typography between radio (server) and 
connection device (PC, other user interface) as the client.  What caught my eye 
was the promise of remote operation via an ethernet connection that would 
greatly simplify the setup and operation of a remote station.  Given that my 
potential operating would be 90% of the time via remote operation, this was a 
big deal to me.   I ordered one in August 2012 as their ‘early purchase 
discount’ was expiring.  

2.  My Flex-6700 was delivered in November 2013 with SmarSDR v1.x that was 
essentially useless for my purposes.  No provision for remote operation and 
only ‘basic functions.’  No promises were made as to when remote operation 
would be possible.

3.  In August 2014 I purchased the K3-KPA500-KAT500-K3/I0 mini with remote rig 
system from Elecraft at the Huntsville Hamfest.  10 days later product was 
delivered to me in Westborough, MA and I subsequently set it up at my station 
in Folkston, GA over labor day weekend.  I ordered the equipment because at 
this point I had no idea when Flex would have developed their remote capability 
and none of us were getting any younger.  

Setup was simple and ‘it simply worked’.  Nothing fancy versus the potential of 
the Flex, but it performed as advertised.  Most importantly, i had a reliable 
remote station capability.  

4. In May 2017 Flex announced SmartSDR v2.x with “Smartlink” that finally 
provided the wide area network remote capability that I was looking for.  Note 
that this was FIVE YEARS after initial product announcement.  By then SmartSDR 
had evolved to a level of maturity where the capabilities were meeting 
expectations….

5.  In February 2018 Flex announced the PGXL amplifier along with an external 
tuner capable of SO2R capability that would handle the output of the PGXL.  The 
PGXL was shown at the Orlando Hamcation but the tuner at this point was ‘vapor’ 
as it had not yet been designed.  I ordered mine the day that Hamcation opened. 
 

6.  I received my PGXL in May 2018 following Hamvention.  Neither SmartSDR nor 
the Maestro were updated to accommodate the PGXL, so I was forced to use the 
PGXL using the PGXL utility running on a PC in the shack when operating 
remotely.  More significantly, no tuner was announced so at this point I could 
use the amplifier with my tribander.  This meant that I was dependent upon the 
Elecraft equipment for bands other than 10-15-20.  

7.  The amplifier was returned to Flex in December 2018 due to warranty recall 
(issue with six meters).  

8.  I don’t remember when, but PGXL integration was incorporated into both 
Maestro and the various SmartSDR iterations, making it much easier to manage 
the PGXL remotely.

9.  The TGXL (Tuner Genius) was announced in March 2021. I received my Tuner 
Genius in June 2021, 3+ years after I ordered the PGXL and tuner package.  

10. With 

Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 1:21 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:

> I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are
> going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when
> could I expect to start tracking a package?
>

Skip et al,

No one can answer this question, unfortunately, because Elecraft's
suppliers can't answer Elecraft's questions.  The world-wide chip shortage
(and other factors beyond Elecraft's control) make providing reasonable
delivery estimates nearly impossible.  This applies to many products
including autos, not just the K4.

Most Elecraft K4 discussion is taking place on an independent moderated
mailing list with almost 1,000 members:
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4/topics.  I cannot read this Elecraft
mailman reflector regularly because I'm spending most of my time in that
dedicated K4 group, not here.  You can search the group for answers to
common questions, such as K4 Remote support (still under development).

*K4 shipping status and delivery questions should be posted to separate
dedicated groups* that are trying to estimate Elecraft's ship rate based on
serial numbers and public reports.

https://groups.io/g/CreativeK4ShippingStatus/topics

https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4DeliveryInformation/topics

And of course the official Elecraft page is here:

https://elecraft.com/pages/shipping-status

Note that "Group 1 K4D June 24th" means  June 24th, *2019*.

73,
Bob, N6TV
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[David Gilbert]

We would all have been better off if you had managed to help yourself.

Dave   AB7E


On 8/16/2021 4:33 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:

When we see what CA is up to, they may shut down Elecraft again, send them 
packing to home, put triple masks on, require two vaccines, 3 boosters and a 
partridge in a pear tree.

Sorry, Couldn't help myself.

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 6:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status


Apparently not.  I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could tell us 
how well the K4 worked for remote operations.  The only replies I got said that 
Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the software for remote 
operation of the K4, and as best they could tell from the responses they had 
gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable for doing so.  Nobody from Elecraft 
bothered to answer my query, so they are probably correct.

73,
Dave   AB7E





On 8/16/2021 2:22 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

1.  I run W7RN remotely with the RemoteRig RRC-1258 setup and my K3.
If I replace my K3 with a K4, and Tom does _not_ do likewise at RN,
will my remote setup still work?

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Bill Johnson]

When we see what CA is up to, they may shut down Elecraft again, send them 
packing to home, put triple masks on, require two vaccines, 3 boosters and a 
partridge in a pear tree.  

Sorry, Couldn't help myself.  

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 6:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status


Apparently not.  I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could tell us 
how well the K4 worked for remote operations.  The only replies I got said that 
Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the software for remote 
operation of the K4, and as best they could tell from the responses they had 
gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable for doing so.  Nobody from Elecraft 
bothered to answer my query, so they are probably correct.

73,
Dave   AB7E





On 8/16/2021 2:22 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>
> 1.  I run W7RN remotely with the RemoteRig RRC-1258 setup and my K3. 
> If I replace my K3 with a K4, and Tom does _not_ do likewise at RN, 
> will my remote setup still work?
>

> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[David Gilbert]

Apparently not.  I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could 
tell us how well the K4 worked for remote operations.  The only replies 
I got said that Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the 
software for remote operation of the K4, and as best they could tell 
from the responses they had gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable 
for doing so.  Nobody from Elecraft bothered to answer my query, so they 
are probably correct.


73,
Dave   AB7E





On 8/16/2021 2:22 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:


1.  I run W7RN remotely with the RemoteRig RRC-1258 setup and my K3.  
If I replace my K3 with a K4, and Tom does _not_ do likewise at RN, 
will my remote setup still work?





73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Fred Jensen]

Well Lyn, I survived nearly four years of war during my bulletproof and 
immortal period, so I've assumed it will never be too late to buy a new 
radio.   My K3 [#642] is getting somewhat long in the tooth but it 
still functions great and I really enjoy it.  I've also had enough time 
to learn how to use most of the knobs and switches.  The two primary 
questions lurking in my head right now:


1.  I run W7RN remotely with the RemoteRig RRC-1258 setup and my K3.  If 
I replace my K3 with a K4, and Tom does _not_ do likewise at RN, will my 
remote setup still work?


2.  I have monochrome vision.  I run my P3 waterfall in monochrome mode 
[Thank you Alan!] since the colored mode makes no sense to me.  Does the 
K4 offer that same monochrome WF option?


But, a new radio would be cool!

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/16/2021 1:39 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

Fred -

According to QRZ, you are 3 years older than I am ... and I am one year
beyond the current "Average Life Expectancy" in the USA (post-Covid) for
men.  Not meaning to imply anything by that, but for me ... I'd wait until
they have inventory.

73
Lyn, WØLEN

-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 3:20 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are
going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when
could I expect to start tracking a package?

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Wes]

And then wait another year until the bugs are fixed.

Wes  N7WS

On 8/16/2021 1:39 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:

Fred -
I'd wait until they have inventory.

73
Lyn, WØLEN




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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Lyn Norstad]

Fred -

According to QRZ, you are 3 years older than I am ... and I am one year
beyond the current "Average Life Expectancy" in the USA (post-Covid) for
men.  Not meaning to imply anything by that, but for me ... I'd wait until
they have inventory.

73
Lyn, WØLEN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 3:20 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are 
going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when 
could I expect to start tracking a package?

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Julia Tuttle]

You're never too old to buy another radio!

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 16:30 Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP 
wrote:

> I'd like to know too. I keep flipping back and forth between "I'm too
> old to buy another radio" and "but the K4 is so cool."
>
> 73,
> Victor, 4X6GP
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> On 16/08/2021 23:20, Fred Jensen wrote:
> > I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are
> > going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when
> > could I expect to start tracking a package?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP]

I'd like to know too. I keep flipping back and forth between "I'm too 
old to buy another radio" and "but the K4 is so cool."


73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
CWops #5
Formerly K2VCO
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On 16/08/2021 23:20, Fred Jensen wrote:
I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are 
going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when 
could I expect to start tracking a package?


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[Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Fred Jensen]

I haven't seen much K4 chatter here lately, I wonder how things are 
going in the shipping/delivery business. Were I to order one today, when 
could I expect to start tracking a package?


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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K4] Delivery of the K4

[Wayne Burdick]

No kidding. Two of our most senior consulting engineers are recovering 
(fortunately) from Covid. (And as for living hell, the fires destroyed the 
homes of two other Elecraft engineers. They're both hoping to rebuild, though 
it's an arduous process.)

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[Steve Dyer W1SRD via Elecraft]

I guess we need a "no troll" policy as well.
A mis-leading subject line.
No Elecraft content in the body of the email.
A link that leads to a politicized article.
That is the definition of a troll email.
Nothing about the K4 to be found...
The wrong person apologized in this thread.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[Eric Norris]

Yep, my bad, and my apologies to all.

73 Eric WD6DBM

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 4:59 AM JP Douglas  wrote:

> Is the CA Dept of Health also fake news???
> Their website lists the same requirements.
> Is anything that one disagrees with fake news???
> I am so glad I don’t have a TV or read the so called news papers.
> Let’s go bak to real news; ham radio and stop the hysteria you all love so
> much!
> 73 de Jose Douglas Mid Coast ME
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> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Eric Norris 
> wrote:
> >
> > KUSI is literally fake news--there is no such entity registered with the
> > California Secretary of State's office, either as a corporate name, or
> > other business entity--in case any of you took this seriously.
> >
> > 73 Eric WD6DBM
> >
> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 2:15 PM John Harper  wrote:
> >>
> >> I think California's Health & Human Services Dept has banned bragging
> about
> >> having received California products. If not, it will soon be added to
> this
> >> list:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.kusi.com/california-releases-crazy-mandatory-guidance-for-private-gatherings-this-holiday-season/
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[JP Douglas]

Is the CA Dept of Health also fake news???
Their website lists the same requirements.
Is anything that one disagrees with fake news???
I am so glad I don’t have a TV or read the so called news papers.
Let’s go bak to real news; ham radio and stop the hysteria you all love so much!
73 de Jose Douglas Mid Coast ME

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> On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
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> KUSI is literally fake news--there is no such entity registered with the
> California Secretary of State's office, either as a corporate name, or
> other business entity--in case any of you took this seriously.
> 
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 2:15 PM John Harper  wrote:
>> 
>> I think California's Health & Human Services Dept has banned bragging about
>> having received California products. If not, it will soon be added to this
>> list:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.kusi.com/california-releases-crazy-mandatory-guidance-for-private-gatherings-this-holiday-season/
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[len]

>From what I can see the article just references its information directly
from the ca.gov web site:

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/CDPH-Guidance-for-t
he-Prevention-of-COVID-19-Transmission-for-Gatherings-10-09.aspx

So unless someone spoofed the ca.gov site it's not fake news.


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KUSI is literally fake news--there is no such entity registered with the
California Secretary of State's office, either as a corporate name, or other
business entity--in case any of you took this seriously.

73 Eric WD6DBM

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 2:15 PM John Harper  wrote:

> I think California's Health & Human Services Dept has banned bragging 
> about having received California products. If not, it will soon be 
> added to this
> list:
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>
> https://www.kusi.com/california-releases-crazy-mandatory-guidance-for-
> private-gatherings-this-holiday-season/
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

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KUSI-TV   CA SAN DIEGO USA  
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Service Designation: DTV Digital Television (Full Service -- single transmitter 
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> On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
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> it appears to be an independent TV station in San Diego.
> 
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>> On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
>> 
>> KUSI is literally fake news--there is no such entity registered with the
>> California Secretary of State's office, either as a corporate name, or
>> other business entity--in case any of you took this seriously.
>> 
>> 73 Eric WD6DBM
>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 2:15 PM John Harper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think California's Health & Human Services Dept has banned bragging about
>>> having received California products. If not, it will soon be added to this
>>> list:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.kusi.com/california-releases-crazy-mandatory-guidance-for-private-gatherings-this-holiday-season/
>>> 
>>> John AE5X
>>> https://ae5x.blogspot.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[Grant Youngman]

it appears to be an independent TV station in San Diego.

Grant NQ5T



> On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> 
> KUSI is literally fake news--there is no such entity registered with the
> California Secretary of State's office, either as a corporate name, or
> other business entity--in case any of you took this seriously.
> 
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
> 
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 2:15 PM John Harper  wrote:
> 
>> I think California's Health & Human Services Dept has banned bragging about
>> having received California products. If not, it will soon be added to this
>> list:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.kusi.com/california-releases-crazy-mandatory-guidance-for-private-gatherings-this-holiday-season/
>> 
>> John AE5X
>> https://ae5x.blogspot.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[Eric Norris]

KUSI is literally fake news--there is no such entity registered with the
California Secretary of State's office, either as a corporate name, or
other business entity--in case any of you took this seriously.

73 Eric WD6DBM

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 2:15 PM John Harper  wrote:

> I think California's Health & Human Services Dept has banned bragging about
> having received California products. If not, it will soon be added to this
> list:
>
>
> https://www.kusi.com/california-releases-crazy-mandatory-guidance-for-private-gatherings-this-holiday-season/
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[Don Wilhelm]

John,

I hope you do not bite your tongue while you have it firmly planted in 
your cheek.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/28/2020 5:10 PM, John Harper wrote:

I think California's Health & Human Services Dept has banned bragging about
having received California products. If not, it will soon be added to this
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https://www.kusi.com/california-releases-crazy-mandatory-guidance-for-private-gatherings-this-holiday-season/

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[John Harper]

I think California's Health & Human Services Dept has banned bragging about
having received California products. If not, it will soon be added to this
list:

https://www.kusi.com/california-releases-crazy-mandatory-guidance-for-private-gatherings-this-holiday-season/

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[gregg.w6izt1]

I wasn't aware that any K4s have shipped?

Gregg W6IZT

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Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

Anyone willing to share their delivery Info with us?   I’m surprised no one has 
announced (bragged) about receipt of a new K4 radio. Shipments started in early 
September we thought.  




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[Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[Nr4c]

Anyone willing to share their delivery Info with us?   I’m surprised no one has 
announced (bragged) about receipt of a new K4 radio. Shipments started in early 
September we thought.  




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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Gary Smith]

I hear you, we have a finite life. 

Aside from that eternal reality, I can't 
imagine wishing for something that by 
logistics isn't ready for release. All I 
can picture if they did release it early, 
before it was realistically able to be 
released, is all the whining and 
complaints I would be reading on it being 
released too early.

OTOH, I like that they are doing what is 
possible to make the K4 intact as much as 
possible before its release.

I paid in full for the K4D and am more 
than happy to wait for the perfected 
version. Some are more "I want it and I 
want it now", that too is a valid concept.

73,

Gary
KA1J


> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Bill Johnson]

The parts delay is really a good thing. The test units will provide lots of 
opportunity for more bugs to be worked out.  I know, I have purchased lots of 
"stuff" with bugs as the process has been let's get it launched and straighten 
out the errors as we go.  The delay, caused by parts,  is a huge benefit.  I 
expect the eventual roll out will be closer to done.  What other company has 
been so up front?  Go Elecraft.

72 & 73,
Bill
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Dear OMs and YLs, Better the extra time to do things right.73 Doug EI2CNSent 
from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Buddy Brannan  
Date: 16/01/2020  07:29  (GMT+00:00) To: mark roz  Cc: 
Elecraft  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now 
in May Disappointing? It’s not unusual. Same happened with the 
KX3—production/shipping delays—and, I gather, same happened with the K3 as 
well. I don’t recall if the same delays happened with the KX1 or not. But it’s 
one of those nature of the beast things. I ordered my KX3 just a day or so 
after the announcement of the preorder window came up, and the scheduled 
beginning of production slipped. I think it slipped a couple times. Finally got 
it about a week before Field Day, and it was a sub-500 serial number. Was it 
worth the extra wait? Absolutely, without question it was. It was everything 
I’d hoped for it to be and then some. Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PAEmail: 
buddy@brannan.nameMobile: (814) 431-0962> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:01 PM, mark roz 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Bill Johnson]

TO be expected. If I die before delivery, no problem, I won't care.  :-)

73,
Bill
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Elecraft mailing list wrote
> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.

Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential launch 
date was inevitable. it’s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing what 
begins as a prototype is always difficult at best. 

Lou, W0FK 



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Bill Johnson]

I am 74!

72 & 73,
Bill
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I, too, am disappointed. No one will die? Well, I’m 78, sir. I hope I have a 
few more years . . . . 

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Michael Walker  wrote:
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> All in good time
> 
> The world won’t end and no one will die if it comes out later. 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Lyn Norstad]

And, just imagine the propagation!


73
Lyn, WØLEN



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clay Autery
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EVERY antenna is an IDEAL antenna and you don't need towers to hold them 
up.  You simply will it to sit where you want it to stay. 

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On 01/16/20 09:20, WILLIE BABER wrote:
>   K7? Does that imply that Elecraft company makes it to heaven too, with some 
> of us? Ok! But are there any 100 foot towers in heaven?
>
> 73, Will, wj9b, dit dit
>
>
> CWops #1085
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> http://cwops.org/
>
>   On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 5:28:53 AM PST, Dr. William J. Schmidt 
>  wrote:
>   
>   Whew!  Otherwise we are really screwed on using the K5, K6, and K7...
>
>
> Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ
>
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Keith N6JPA  wrote:
>>
>> Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack with 
>> all of the models. Think positive :-)
>>
>>
>>> On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>>> All in good time
>>>
>>> The world won’t end and no one will die if it comes out later.
>>>
>>> Mike va3mw
>>>
>>>>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:02 PM, mark roz via Elecraft 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
>>>> Very disappointing.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Clay Autery]

EVERY antenna is an IDEAL antenna and you don't need towers to hold them 
up.  You simply will it to sit where you want it to stay. 


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On 01/16/20 09:20, WILLIE BABER wrote:

  K7? Does that imply that Elecraft company makes it to heaven too, with some 
of us? Ok! But are there any 100 foot towers in heaven?

73, Will, wj9b, dit dit


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  On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 5:28:53 AM PST, Dr. William J. Schmidt 
 wrote:
  
  Whew!  Otherwise we are really screwed on using the K5, K6, and K7...



Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ


On Jan 15, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Keith N6JPA  wrote:

Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack with all 
of the models. Think positive :-)



On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
All in good time

The world won’t end and no one will die if it comes out later.

Mike va3mw


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Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
Very disappointing.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[WILLIE BABER]

 I recall the K2 in particular. I received modifications from Elecraft before I 
finished building it. Because I was working so hard at the University, I put K2 
is a box, partially assembled. However, I kept track of every Elecraft 
modification and put them in the box too. Then I purchased an assembled K3. It 
also went through a few changes (remember the replacement of those pins?) and 
well before the improved synthesizer. Still, I did not use exclusive so2r K3 
until 2015 (but I should have done so sooner---I was still using Orion).

I didn't finish building K2 until 2016, four years after I retired! Elecraft 
still had a few parts that I needed. K2 works perfectly, but nothing else I 
have used slices up signals in a contest like K3 with the six-pole 200 hz 
crystal filter. 

So while the delay is unfortunate, I wouldn't worry about Elecraft's final 
product if history is any kind of measure that involves the future. Of course 
time is a real issue, as many of us are running short of it!

I am in my 70th year, and I was one of the younger ones in the hobby, hi.

73, Will, wj9b, dit dit

CWops #1085
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http://cwops.org/ On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 11:28:46 PM PST, Buddy 
Brannan  wrote:  
 
 Disappointing? It’s not unusual. Same happened with the 
KX3—production/shipping delays—and, I gather, same happened with the K3 as 
well. I don’t recall if the same delays happened with the KX1 or not. But it’s 
one of those nature of the beast things. I ordered my KX3 just a day or so 
after the announcement of the preorder window came up, and the scheduled 
beginning of production slipped. I think it slipped a couple times. Finally got 
it about a week before Field Day, and it was a sub-500 serial number. Was it 
worth the extra wait? Absolutely, without question it was. It was everything 
I’d hoped for it to be and then some. 


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> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[WILLIE BABER]

 K7? Does that imply that Elecraft company makes it to heaven too, with some of 
us? Ok! But are there any 100 foot towers in heaven?

73, Will, wj9b, dit dit


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 On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 5:28:53 AM PST, Dr. William J. Schmidt 
 wrote:  
 
 Whew!  Otherwise we are really screwed on using the K5, K6, and K7...


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Keith N6JPA  wrote:
> 
> Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack with 
> all of the models. Think positive :-)
> 
> 
>> On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>> All in good time
>> 
>> The world won’t end and no one will die if it comes out later.
>> 
>> Mike va3mw
>> 
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>>> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
>>> Very disappointing.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[hawley, charles j jr]

All this talk about the K4 is worth millions (well...maybe thousands) in 
advertising. It's really getting me ramped up for the K4 and I didn't even 
preorder one...
Keep it up!

Chuck Hawley
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 aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles


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Elecraft mailing list wrote
> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.

Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential launch
date was inevitable. it’s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing what
begins as a prototype is always difficult at best.

Lou, W0FK



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Dr. William J. Schmidt]

Whew!  Otherwise we are really screwed on using the K5, K6, and K7...


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Keith N6JPA  wrote:
> 
> Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack with 
> all of the models. Think positive :-)
> 
> 
>> On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>> All in good time
>> 
>> The world won’t end and no one will die if it comes out later.
>> 
>> Mike va3mw
>> 
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>>> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
>>> Very disappointing.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[turnbull]

Dear OMs and YLs, Better the extra time to do things right.73 Doug EI2CNSent 
from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Buddy Brannan  
Date: 16/01/2020  07:29  (GMT+00:00) To: mark roz  Cc: 
Elecraft  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now 
in May Disappointing? It’s not unusual. Same happened with the 
KX3—production/shipping delays—and, I gather, same happened with the K3 as 
well. I don’t recall if the same delays happened with the KX1 or not. But it’s 
one of those nature of the beast things. I ordered my KX3 just a day or so 
after the announcement of the preorder window came up, and the scheduled 
beginning of production slipped. I think it slipped a couple times. Finally got 
it about a week before Field Day, and it was a sub-500 serial number. Was it 
worth the extra wait? Absolutely, without question it was. It was everything 
I’d hoped for it to be and then some. Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PAEmail: 
buddy@brannan.nameMobile: (814) 431-0962> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:01 PM, mark roz 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Buddy Brannan]

Disappointing? It’s not unusual. Same happened with the KX3—production/shipping 
delays—and, I gather, same happened with the K3 as well. I don’t recall if the 
same delays happened with the KX1 or not. But it’s one of those nature of the 
beast things. I ordered my KX3 just a day or so after the announcement of the 
preorder window came up, and the scheduled beginning of production slipped. I 
think it slipped a couple times. Finally got it about a week before Field Day, 
and it was a sub-500 serial number. Was it worth the extra wait? Absolutely, 
without question it was. It was everything I’d hoped for it to be and then 
some. 


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Mike VE3YF]

Well that was not something I was expecting.

Oh well stuff like that happens everyday. Some things are beyond 
Elecrafts control.


The way I see it, better to have a polished and proper rig, than one 
that just full of bugs and issues. Get it right the first time.



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Eric Swartz]

Here is a link to the actual email we just sent to all people who have
ordered K4s.
https://mailchi.mp/6408031aa209/k4-shipping-update

*(Mailchimp is the same certified bulk email service that we use for the
regular Elecraft newsletter emails.)*
73,
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:27 PM Grant Youngman  wrote:

> Where did this come from?
>
> There was some discussion of the additional time for the kit version to
> ship, but I haven’t seen anything official on May for first K4 ship
>
> Sounds like someone got their neurons and rumors crossed (?)
>
> Grant NQ5T
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> > On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:22 PM, W0FK  wrote:
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> >> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> >> Very disappointing.
> >
> > Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential
> launch
> > date was inevitable. it’s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing
> what
> > begins as a prototype is always difficult at best.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Ted Roycraft]

Where did this May rumor come from?  Yes, the kit version is supposed to
come out months later but the Elecraft web site still says that the first
shipments of the K4 are targeted for January 2020.

Ted, W2ZK

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Keith N6JPA  wrote:

> Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack
> with all of the models. Think positive :-)
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> On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Keith N6JPA]

Don't worry. I have it on good authority that heaven has a Ham Shack 
with all of the models. Think positive :-)



On 1/15/2020 5:09 PM, Michael Walker wrote:

All in good time

The world won’t end and no one will die if it comes out later.

Mike va3mw


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Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
Very disappointing.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Grant Youngman]

Where did this come from?

There was some discussion of the additional time for the kit version to ship, 
but I haven’t seen anything official on May for first K4 ship

Sounds like someone got their neurons and rumors crossed (?)

Grant NQ5T

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:22 PM, W0FK  wrote:
> 
> Elecraft mailing list wrote
>> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
>> Very disappointing.
> 
> Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential launch
> date was inevitable. it’s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing what
> begins as a prototype is always difficult at best. 
> 
> Lou, W0FK 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[W0FK]

Elecraft mailing list wrote
> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.

Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential launch
date was inevitable. it’s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing what
begins as a prototype is always difficult at best. 

Lou, W0FK 



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Carl Yaffey]

I, too, am disappointed. No one will die? Well, I’m 78, sir. I hope I have a 
few more years . . . . 

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Michael Walker  wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Michael Walker]

All in good time

The world won’t end and no one will die if it comes out later. 

Mike va3mw 

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:02 PM, mark roz via Elecraft  
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[Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[mark roz via Elecraft]

Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery

[Nr4c]

Old news. This was posted before Pacificon. 

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> On Oct 31, 2019, at 7:47 AM, Ken B via Elecraft  
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> Any update on delivery dates 
> Thank you Ken WB8PKK
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>  On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:32 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - 
> Elecraft wrote:   Hi Tom,
> 
> I apologize for any confusion on K4 status. We really appreciate the support 
> you and others have given us with your K4 orders. 
> 
> We’ve been very busy keeping our heads down and working hard finishing key K4 
> features and getting everything lined up for production, including getting 
> critical long lead parts on order with committed delivery dates. We are being 
> very careful about getting this right and not cutting corners. 
> 
> I’ll make sure to post updates more often here and via direct emAil to K4 
> order holders as we converge to keep everyone informed and up to date. We’ll 
> also make more posts describing some exciting features we are adding to the 
> K4 design.
> 
> We’ll be off line through this weekend at the ARRL Pacificon hamfest.  I’ll 
> make sure to post here links to any video interviews we give there on the K4 
> and its newest features. 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery

[Ken B via Elecraft]

Any update on delivery dates 
Thank you Ken WB8PKK

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  On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:32 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - 
Elecraft wrote:   Hi Tom,

I apologize for any confusion on K4 status. We really appreciate the support 
you and others have given us with your K4 orders. 

We’ve been very busy keeping our heads down and working hard finishing key K4 
features and getting everything lined up for production, including getting 
critical long lead parts on order with committed delivery dates. We are being 
very careful about getting this right and not cutting corners. 

I’ll make sure to post updates more often here and via direct emAil to K4 order 
holders as we converge to keep everyone informed and up to date. We’ll also 
make more posts describing some exciting features we are adding to the K4 
design.

We’ll be off line through this weekend at the ARRL Pacificon hamfest.  I’ll 
make sure to post here links to any video interviews we give there on the K4 
and its newest features. 

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

Hi Tom,

I apologize for any confusion on K4 status. We really appreciate the support 
you and others have given us with your K4 orders. 

We’ve been very busy keeping our heads down and working hard finishing key K4 
features and getting everything lined up for production, including getting 
critical long lead parts on order with committed delivery dates. We are being 
very careful about getting this right and not cutting corners. 

I’ll make sure to post updates more often here and via direct emAil to K4 order 
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design.

We’ll be off line through this weekend at the ARRL Pacificon hamfest.  I’ll 
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and its newest features. 

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery

[Tom Doligalski via Elecraft]

Kinda sad that Elecraft has failed to let those of us who plunked down $4K back 
in May know anything about K4 status. 

Tom W4KX

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> On Oct 17, 2019, at 1:32 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
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> In case you haven’t dropped by the K4 part of the Elecraft website recently, 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery

[Gary Smith]

To me, a longer wait means closer to 
perfection.

;)

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> That's new, was still showing Nov/Dec earlier this week :(
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> So much for plans to play with it on annual vacation. :(
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery

[Tox]

That's new, was still showing Nov/Dec earlier this week :(

So much for plans to play with it on annual vacation. :(

Scott
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[Elecraft] K4 Delivery

[Grant Youngman]

In case you haven’t dropped by the K4 part of the Elecraft website recently, it 
appears first deliveries are now officially scheduled for Jan 2020.  There was 
a hint of this during the recent UK hamfest.

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