Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[N2TK via Elecraft]

I would like to comment a little about the shipment of parts. Our company is
a USA company making discrete semiconductors. We are considered essential.
So, we have been open throughout this pandemic. 
We have a packaging and test facility in the Philippines for some of our
parts. Many component manufactures use Southeast Asia for packaging and
testing. It is not just the Covid-19 that has had an immense effect on
getting parts out of that region, but also the earthquakes, especially the
one on 2/16. We have not seen any parts out of that region since the
earthquake. In June Luzon opened up again. But you just don't start shipping
parts right away. You first got to perform maintenance on the equipment, run
quals and make a preproduction run. Even though our plant turned on in June,
we don't expect any parts till the end of August, at the earliest.
And don't forget about shipping. Even your Amazon Prime shipments may take
longer these days. And that is especially apparent when importing parts.
Things don't clear customs as quickly as they used to.
So, even essential businesses are having trouble getting parts. 
We are all affected in some way with Covid-19. 
72,
N2TK, Tony

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On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.

To varying degrees, the whole world is affected by COVID, including
manufacturers and distributors of parts. Few are designated as essential.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Dave New, N8SBE]

Thanks, Rich.  "All industries are equal, but some are more equal than
others."


I'm amazed at the folks that seem to think that ham radio equipment is
even on the radar of anybody's 'essential' industry.


What's even weirder, is that if you ask anyone to make up a list of
'essential' industries, it would look like no one else's list, ever.


It seems that the industries that have the deepest pockets and the most
to lose (all at the same time, it seems) are the only ones getting
parts.  All the small players are going begging.


The major automotive OEMs (billions of dollars/yr in sales) have been
back in production now for several weeks.  Consider that the average
vehicle these days has over 30K parts, and then try to figure out why
small businesses like Elecraft can't get the parts they need to go back
into production.


It's not that the parts aren't available, it's that the parts went
SOMEWHERE ELSE.


Even the automotive OEM's have occasionally had to take a back seat to
other manufacturers when it comes to electronics, especially the
computer and cell phone guys.  In the race to source microprocessor
parts, there is a definite pecking order, based on volume and pricing
and demand.  If you sell a billion cell phones a year, guess who gets
first pick?


Sorry to bust everyone's bubble, but ham radio is really not that
important, in the great industry wheel of things.


73,


-- Dave, N8SBE
   Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production
 From: Rich NE1EE <73.de.ne...@gmail.com>
 Date: Fri, July 17, 2020 8:04 am
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

 I'm sure that it varies by location and industry. I have spoken to
several businesses who report they are behind due to supply chain
interruptions and delays.

 I see that I need to change my habits for this mailer...I have a habit
of hitting reply, and twice now I have sent private messages when I
meant to reply to the group...

 ~R~
 72/73 de Rich NE1EE
 On the banks of the Piscataqua
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Rich NE1EE]

I'm sure that it varies by location and industry. I have spoken to several 
businesses who report they are behind due to supply chain interruptions and 
delays.

I see that I need to change my habits for this mailer...I have a habit of 
hitting reply, and twice now I have sent private messages when I meant to reply 
to the group...

~R~
72/73 de Rich NE1EE
On the banks of the Piscataqua


On 2020-07-16 20:01:-0700, Jim Brown wrote:
>On 7/16/2020 3:14 PM, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote:
>>Check your math.  World population is about 8 Billion.  Give everyone a Covid 
>>distance of two meters, or four square meters per person.  That gives us 32 
>>billion square meters to socially distance the world population.  California 
>>is about 424 billion square meters.  Plenty of room for everybody!
>
>Check your geography. Not all parts of the world (or of California) are 
>habitable!
>
>73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Jim Brown]

Great post, Gary.

73, Jim K9YC

On 7/16/2020 8:36 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

I'm always bemused when a completely
unexpected series of profoundly affecting
variables, none of which are from internal
causes, make themselves a factor in
development and construction, appear and
globally interfere with design,
production, and supply. This fluid state
appears while a specific completion date
and time was never assured of, & in
subsequent conversations with advance
purchasers.


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Gary Smith]

I'm always bemused when a completely 
unexpected series of profoundly affecting 
variables, none of which are from internal 
causes, make themselves a factor in 
development and construction, appear and 
globally interfere with design, 
production, and supply. This fluid state 
appears while a specific completion date 
and time was never assured of, & in 
subsequent conversations with advance 
purchasers. 

As there was never a promised date, there 
is a Pandemic where over 100,000 people in 
the USA alone have already died, 
Manufacturing globally has taken a real 
hit, transportation has taken a major 
blow. I had a USPS 2 day package shipped 
from Michigan on Sat 11 and it is nor the 
16th & tracking shows it just left 
Michigan on route to CT. It may be here on 
Saturday. That'll be a 6 day delivery with 
a 2 day promise. That same kind of delay 
is happening to the construction of the K4 
and any new components are also affected 
in this way. There is no other choice and 
I want it And I want It Now pressure 
doesn't do anything but waste everyone's 
time. It has zero rate on accelerating 
production and if anything, detracts from 
the focus from the principals.

All this takes me back to the bemusement I 
get when reading such comments. Do they 
really believe in this arena it will move 
anything along faster, and if the company 
indeed did rush to complete while not 
having sufficient components in, on time, 
that it would behove the production run in 
any way whatsoever? 

Good friends, chill, this is an 
unprecedented time and Elecraft is moving 
along in the best way to give the best 
product they can do. We'll have our little 
beauties when they're vetted and 
competent. Till then, chill, practice some 
CW Check the antenna connections stop 
thinking of it should have been here by 
now, because it was never promised to be 
here by now. Things are moving forward 
nicely. 

And yes, I dropped the full deposit for a 
K4D and am aware I'll have to wait for the 
HD module to be created. I'm, metal 
detecting, digitizing my stereo collection 
and enjoying the Yamaha on nice days. 
Elecraft is doing their job, and I'm doing 
mine.

73,

Gary
KA1J





> Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts
> would already have already been in transit before primary covid
> impacts were in place. OK, that was missed.
> 
> I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara
> County, understand current density and watch county #s (and Health
> Orders being ignored by the public).
> 
> That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately
> attributable to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result
> of either failure to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last
> year.
> 
> We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
> promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a
> year ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.
> 
> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen 
> wrote:
> 
> > Say again?  The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
> > very end of 2019.  Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
> > manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia.  Everyones' supply chains
> > are disrupted now but slowly improving.
> >
> > Elecraft is based in California.  The population density in
> > California is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter
> > from everyone else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the
> > Pacific Ocean. [:=)  From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada
> > to Sparks, Elecraft is really working to both resume normal
> > production AND protect their employees and families so they can
> > continue normal production.
> >
> > 73,
> > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> > Sparks NV DM09dn
> > Washoe County
> >
> > On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
> > > The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
> > pre-covid.
> > > Wondering what the facts are.
> > > (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
> > >   string-along)
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Jim Brown]

On 7/16/2020 3:14 PM, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote:

Check your math.  World population is about 8 Billion.  Give everyone a Covid 
distance of two meters, or four square meters per person.  That gives us 32 
billion square meters to socially distance the world population.  California is 
about 424 billion square meters.  Plenty of room for everybody!


Check your geography. Not all parts of the world (or of California) are 
habitable!


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Jim Brown]

On 7/16/2020 3:07 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

Things may be different in California but here in North Carolina I do not
know of any manufacture or supplier that closed.


The impact of COVID has varied widely with geography and how each region 
(even a locality) relates to others. It also varies a LOT over time. 
Some regions that escaped outbreaks in the early months are getting hit 
now.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production _ Money UPDATE

[Nr4c]

Yeah. I’m hoping they’ll start building and shipping K4s soon. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jul 16, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Dick Dickinson  wrote:
> 
> nr4c's use of the present tense indicates he is an optimist.
> 
> 
> As ever,
> Dick - KA5KKT
> 
> 
> In this case it's a deposit. They are using the money. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production _ Money UPDATE

[Dick Dickinson]

nr4c's use of the present tense indicates he is an optimist.


As ever,
Dick - KA5KKT


In this case it's a deposit. They are using the money. 

Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production _ Money UPDATE

[Nr4c]

In this case it’s a deposit. They are using the money. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jul 16, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Paul Van Dyke  wrote:
> 
> IF and IF I remember correctly, they (Elecraft) takes not a penny from you
> till it is shipped. I know the money is waiting for them as I wait for the
> K4.
> 
> I'm still happy, wishing I could I could have taken it on the dxpedition,
> but it didn't happen either due to Covid-19.
> I have a great K3S K-Station setup..
> I will have a better K4 K-Station setup when it comes in.
> 
> See you on the air & Nets
> Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
> K2-16xx
> K3S-11103
> KX3-24 (4 days out out of Elecraft running a dxpedition on Montserrat)
> KXPA100 -22
> KX2-38
> KXPA100-22/KX3-24  team
> (1 week out out of Elecraft running a dxpedition on Dominica)
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Fred Jensen]

Yes, I too have a math degree and the mean population density of 
California is ~98/sq km and yes, all the people in CA could stand well 
more than 1 m apart and no one would need scuba tanks or find themselves 
in Nevada [or Oregon or Arizona or Baja California].  I made it up ... 
it was intended as a joke.  It's a good thing I ended up supporting my 
family with math and engineering degrees since I don't hold a degree in 
comedy and apparently  I suck at it. [:=)


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/16/2020 3:14 PM, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote:

Not waiting on a K4, got my KX2 and perfectly happy.  Also, off topic and not 
intended to besmirch anyone, but being a math geek in a math geeky hobby . . .

“The population density in California is high ... high enough that if everyone 
stood 1 meter from everyone else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in 
the Pacific Ocean.”

Check your math.  World population is about 8 Billion.  Give everyone a Covid 
distance of two meters, or four square meters per person.  That gives us 32 
billion square meters to socially distance the world population.  California is 
about 424 billion square meters.  Plenty of room for everybody!

Keeping Watch-
shu

Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production _ Money UPDATE

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

My card was charged 6/3/2019.

There's always the chance that Elecraft goes under and I don't see any
of it back. I'm just patiently waiting for the the radio.

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Tox wrote:


No, they were up front that they were trying to fund the production run.
Credit cards were hit last year.

Scott


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:28 PM Paul Van Dyke 
wrote:


IF and IF I remember correctly, they (Elecraft) takes not a penny from you
till it is shipped. I know the money is waiting for them as I wait for the
K4.

I'm still happy, wishing I could I could have taken it on the dxpedition,
but it didn't happen either due to Covid-19.
I have a great K3S K-Station setup..
I will have a better K4 K-Station setup when it comes in.

See you on the air & Nets
Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
K2-16xx
K3S-11103
KX3-24 (4 days out out of Elecraft running a dxpedition on Montserrat)
KXPA100 -22
KX2-38
KXPA100-22/KX3-24  team
(1 week out out of Elecraft running a dxpedition on Dominica)

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Bill Johnson]

I sent my thoughts directly to Scott, not to the reflector.  This one will be 
out of hand in no time.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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If that's the way you feel, why don't you ask for your money back?

Ted, W2ZK

On 7/16/2020 13:55, Tox wrote:
> Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts 
> would already have already been in transit before primary covid 
> impacts were in place. OK, that was missed.
>
> I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara 
> County, understand current density and watch county #s (and Health 
> Orders being ignored by the public).
>
> That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately 
> attributable to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result 
> of either failure to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.
>
> We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery 
> promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a 
> year ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.
>
> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny 
> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone 
> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>
> Scott
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>
>> Say again?  The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the 
>> very end of 2019.  Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other 
>> manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia.  Everyones' supply chains 
>> are disrupted now but slowly improving.
>>
>> Elecraft is based in California.  The population density in 
>> California is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter 
>> from everyone else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific 
>> Ocean.
>> [:=)  From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks, 
>> Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND 
>> protect their employees and families so they can continue normal production.
>>
>> 73,
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>>
>> On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
>>> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
>> pre-covid.
>>> Wondering what the facts are.
>>> (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
>>>string-along)
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Robert Rennard via Elecraft]

Six weeks ago, my 100 years old Grandmother’s dryer broke down.  My bride and I 
went to Lowes to see what we could find that would be simple to operate, and 
did the same at the local Home Depot.  Grandmother is about 1230 miles from us.
One thing we noticed that was common to all the models in both the big box 
stores was a taped on paper sign reading BACK ORDERED.  We had little success 
trying to get one from either big box website, but did finally get an order 
placed for delivery a month ago.  Grandmother got the new dryer about two weeks 
ago.  Delay after delay.

I think we should realize that a lot of changes have to be made for a company 
to comply with the guidelines and ensure employee safety: workspace spittle 
shields, ingress body temperature checks, PPE such as masks and gloves, and the 
20 questions that should be asked every Monday regarding what employees did 
over the weekend.  Not only does Elecraft want to ship products and complete 
repairs in a timely manner, they also want to avoid jeopardizing employee 
health.  We too should want Elecraft to meet these objectives, particularly the 
latter.

I continue to see the video of some woman ranting about her right to not wear a 
mask.  She is evidently completely clueless about how SARS-CoV-2 spreads.  So, 
you can mock me for wearing a mask, but I hope you won’t have to mourn me 
because someone else did not wear theirs.  Maybe being jailed for involuntary 
manslaughter would wake up the public who think COVID is a hoax.

Bob R – N7WY

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Joseph Shuman via Elecraft]

Not waiting on a K4, got my KX2 and perfectly happy.  Also, off topic and not 
intended to besmirch anyone, but being a math geek in a math geeky hobby . . .

“The population density in California is high ... high enough that if everyone 
stood 1 meter from everyone else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in 
the Pacific Ocean.”

Check your math.  World population is about 8 Billion.  Give everyone a Covid 
distance of two meters, or four square meters per person.  That gives us 32 
billion square meters to socially distance the world population.  California is 
about 424 billion square meters.  Plenty of room for everybody!

Keeping Watch-
shu

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[john]

Things may be different in California but here in North Carolina I do not
know of any manufacture or supplier that closed. 

John KK9A - W4AAA

Don Wilhelm wrote:

All,

The parts may have come in pre-covid, BUT
Elecraft boards are populated at board shops in California, and the 
metal parts come out of another shop in California.

So while Elecraft may be limping along, they are dependent on a variety 
of other California shops which may be shuttered.

73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Ingo Meyer, DK3RED]

Hey folks, stay calm!

Long long before Corvid-19, for example, the delivery time for simple block capacitors 
(100 nF) was 12 weeks or more. I suspect that the Elecraft team will start the 
pick-and-place machines as soon as possible when everything arrives. So stay calm!


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Tox]

If you're primarily in interest-bearing accounts rather than other
investments, all too true.

Opportunity cost varies wildly.

Scott


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:35 PM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 7/16/2020 11:05 AM, Carl Yaffey wrote:
> > What? We’re not getting interest?
>
> :)
>
> A look at the latest statement from wherever we store our money will
> tell us that the current interest rate is quite close to zero percent.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Don Wilhelm]

All,

The parts may have come in pre-covid, BUT
Elecraft boards are populated at board shops in California, and the 
metal parts come out of another shop in California.


So while Elecraft may be limping along, they are dependent on a variety 
of other California shops which may be shuttered.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/16/2020 2:40 PM, Rick NK7I wrote:


Now consider that many parts do not come from the US, some of the 
sources are from countries we're bickering with (see spelling above, 
subtitle tariff), the parts that ARE here can't be put into boards that 
can't be made because other businesses are less 'essential' (defined in 
no law whatsoever)... all resolves to:


They're doing what they are allowed to do under the conditions they 
face.  And doing it well, the Elecraft way.  This'll take a while so 
patience is required.


If you truly feel deceived, cancel your order and let the next in line 
move up a slot.  I'm sure they be appreciative.



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Jim Brown]

On 7/16/2020 11:05 AM, Carl Yaffey wrote:

What? We’re not getting interest?


:)

A look at the latest statement from wherever we store our money will 
tell us that the current interest rate is quite close to zero percent.


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Jim Brown]

On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:

The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.


To varying degrees, the whole world is affected by COVID, including 
manufacturers and distributors of parts. Few are designated as essential.


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production _ Money UPDATE

[Tox]

No, they were up front that they were trying to fund the production run.
Credit cards were hit last year.

Scott


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:28 PM Paul Van Dyke 
wrote:

> IF and IF I remember correctly, they (Elecraft) takes not a penny from you
> till it is shipped. I know the money is waiting for them as I wait for the
> K4.
>
> I'm still happy, wishing I could I could have taken it on the dxpedition,
> but it didn't happen either due to Covid-19.
> I have a great K3S K-Station setup..
> I will have a better K4 K-Station setup when it comes in.
>
> See you on the air & Nets
> Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
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> K3S-11103
> KX3-24 (4 days out out of Elecraft running a dxpedition on Montserrat)
> KXPA100 -22
> KX2-38
> KXPA100-22/KX3-24  team
> (1 week out out of Elecraft running a dxpedition on Dominica)
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[Elecraft] K4 in production _ Money UPDATE

[Paul Van Dyke]

IF and IF I remember correctly, they (Elecraft) takes not a penny from you
till it is shipped. I know the money is waiting for them as I wait for the
K4.

I'm still happy, wishing I could I could have taken it on the dxpedition,
but it didn't happen either due to Covid-19.
I have a great K3S K-Station setup..
I will have a better K4 K-Station setup when it comes in.

See you on the air & Nets
Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
K2-16xx
K3S-11103
KX3-24 (4 days out out of Elecraft running a dxpedition on Montserrat)
KXPA100 -22
KX2-38
KXPA100-22/KX3-24  team
(1 week out out of Elecraft running a dxpedition on Dominica)

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Nr4c]

I did!  

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jul 16, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
> You should probably buy an Icom!
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
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> 
>> On 7/16/20 10:55 AM, Tox wrote:
>> Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
>> already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
>> place. OK, that was missed.
>> I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
>> understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
>> ignored by the public).
>> That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
>> to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
>> to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.
>> We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
>> promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
>> ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.
>> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
>> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
>> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>> Scott
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>>> Say again?  The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
>>> very end of 2019.  Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
>>> manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia.  Everyones' supply chains are
>>> disrupted now but slowly improving.
>>> 
>>> Elecraft is based in California.  The population density in California
>>> is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
>>> else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
>>> [:=)  From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
>>> Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
>>> their employees and families so they can continue normal production.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>>> 
>>> On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
 The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
>>> pre-covid.
 Wondering what the facts are.
 (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
   string-along)
 
 Scott
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Nr4c]

No!  I wouldn’t turn down free shipping and/or no price increase for those 
waiting. 

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 16, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Carl Yaffey  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
>> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
>> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
> What? We’re not getting interest?
> 73 K8NU
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Rick NK7I]

"The plan" was to get a tilt tower, so I don't have to climb and that 
works great.


I also pre-paid for the KPA1500 and then once it arrived had to wait (2 
years) for the shack to be built (else no 240V).  I don't regret this 
because Elecraft HAS the reputation for being the best at product and 
service; they understand much better than the other brands.


No one has a guarantee to tomorrow, but there are signs of hope around.

73,
Rick NK7I

"It ain't the years darlin', it's the miles!"  Indiana Jones


On 7/16/2020 12:13 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

Climb safely.

Thankfully, I've never had a chance to hazard that much money -- though I
did just get a backordered SharkRF OpenSpot3.  :)


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:05 PM WILLIE BABER  wrote:


If I had the money to put up in advance I would "front" the money to
Elecraft, based on the K3. And I did purchased kpa1500 in advance.

I purchased Orion before it was produced based on most of the previous
Tentec radio too.

But I confess that while I do turn 70 years old in September, I am in
excellent shape, still climbing towers.

Time can be an important factor, but who doesn't know that?

73, will, wj9b







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On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 12:35:53 PM MDT, rich hurd WC3T 
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 From where I sit on the Right Coast, I'd be reluctant to front ANYONE that
amount of cash, reputation notwithstanding.  Heck, George Z at Packtenna
couldn't until recently even get the antenna wire from Wireman.  Stuff
happens.  Supply chains bend and break.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Carl Yaffey  wrote:


Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
(surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.

Scott


What? We’re not getting interest?
73 K8NU

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[rich hurd WC3T]

Climb safely.

Thankfully, I've never had a chance to hazard that much money -- though I
did just get a backordered SharkRF OpenSpot3.  :)


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:05 PM WILLIE BABER  wrote:

> If I had the money to put up in advance I would "front" the money to
> Elecraft, based on the K3. And I did purchased kpa1500 in advance.
>
> I purchased Orion before it was produced based on most of the previous
> Tentec radio too.
>
> But I confess that while I do turn 70 years old in September, I am in
> excellent shape, still climbing towers.
>
> Time can be an important factor, but who doesn't know that?
>
> 73, will, wj9b
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> CWops #1085
> CWA Advisor levels II and III
> http://cwops.org/
>
>
> On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 12:35:53 PM MDT, rich hurd WC3T 
> wrote:
>
>
> From where I sit on the Right Coast, I'd be reluctant to front ANYONE that
> amount of cash, reputation notwithstanding.  Heck, George Z at Packtenna
> couldn't until recently even get the antenna wire from Wireman.  Stuff
> happens.  Supply chains bend and break.
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Carl Yaffey  wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> > > (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> > > sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > What? We’re not getting interest?
> > 73 K8NU
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[WILLIE BABER]

If I had the money to put up in advance I would "front" the money to Elecraft, 
based on the K3. And I did purchased kpa1500 in advance.
I purchased Orion before it was produced based on most of the previous Tentec 
radio too.
But I confess that while I do turn 70 years old in September, I am in excellent 
shape, still climbing towers.  
Time can be an important factor, but who doesn't know that?
73, will, wj9b






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On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 12:35:53 PM MDT, rich hurd WC3T  
wrote:  
 
 From where I sit on the Right Coast, I'd be reluctant to front ANYONE that
amount of cash, reputation notwithstanding.  Heck, George Z at Packtenna
couldn't until recently even get the antenna wire from Wireman.  Stuff
happens.  Supply chains bend and break.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Carl Yaffey  wrote:

> >
> > Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> > (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> > sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> What? We’re not getting interest?
> 73 K8NU
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Ted Roycraft]

If that's the way you feel, why don't you ask for your money back?

Ted, W2ZK

On 7/16/2020 13:55, Tox wrote:

Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
place. OK, that was missed.

I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
ignored by the public).

That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.

We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.

Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
(surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.

Scott

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:


Say again?  The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
very end of 2019.  Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia.  Everyones' supply chains are
disrupted now but slowly improving.

Elecraft is based in California.  The population density in California
is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
[:=)  From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
their employees and families so they can continue normal production.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:

The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved

pre-covid.

Wondering what the facts are.
(not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
   string-along)

Scott


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Rick NK7I]

Given the on/off, cancel/restart mother may I, only with a mask 
situation in CA (often spelled P_O_L_I_T_I_C_S), it's a wonder they're 
doing as much as they have.  That tap dance is on a very thin high wire 
with no net.


Now consider that many parts do not come from the US, some of the 
sources are from countries we're bickering with (see spelling above, 
subtitle tariff), the parts that ARE here can't be put into boards that 
can't be made because other businesses are less 'essential' (defined in 
no law whatsoever)... all resolves to:


They're doing what they are allowed to do under the conditions they 
face.  And doing it well, the Elecraft way.  This'll take a while so 
patience is required.


If you truly feel deceived, cancel your order and let the next in line 
move up a slot.  I'm sure they be appreciative.


Rick NK7I
Another CA escapee and I don't miss it for a moment


On 7/16/2020 10:55 AM, Tox wrote:

Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
place. OK, that was missed.

I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
ignored by the public).

That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.

We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.

Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
(surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.

Scott

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:


Say again?  The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
very end of 2019.  Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia.  Everyones' supply chains are
disrupted now but slowly improving.

Elecraft is based in California.  The population density in California
is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
[:=)  From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
their employees and families so they can continue normal production.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:

The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved

pre-covid.

Wondering what the facts are.
(not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
   string-along)

Scott


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[WILLIE BABER]

nonetheless, I think we are all hoping for the best with covid (and doing 
what we can to be safe) and vis-a-vis Elecraft.
If anyone thinks that Elecraft is trying to do anything other than their love 
of art, and make a living doing it, then whomever thinks that hasn't been 
paying attention since before the Elecraft K2.
73  will, wj9b

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On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 11:56:33 AM MDT, Tox  
wrote:  
 
 Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
place. OK, that was missed.

I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
ignored by the public).

That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.

We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.

Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
(surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.

Scott

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Say again?  The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
> very end of 2019.  Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
> manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia.  Everyones' supply chains are
> disrupted now but slowly improving.
>
> Elecraft is based in California.  The population density in California
> is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
> else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
> [:=)  From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
> Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
> their employees and families so they can continue normal production.
>
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
> > The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
> pre-covid.
> > Wondering what the facts are.
> > (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
> >  string-along)
> >
> > Scott
> >
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[rich hurd WC3T]

From where I sit on the Right Coast, I'd be reluctant to front ANYONE that
amount of cash, reputation notwithstanding.  Heck, George Z at Packtenna
couldn't until recently even get the antenna wire from Wireman.  Stuff
happens.  Supply chains bend and break.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Carl Yaffey  wrote:

> >
> > Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> > (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> > sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> What? We’re not getting interest?
> 73 K8NU
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Dave Cole]

You should probably buy an Icom!

73, and thanks,
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On 7/16/20 10:55 AM, Tox wrote:

Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
place. OK, that was missed.

I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
ignored by the public).

That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.

We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.

Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
(surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.

Scott

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:


Say again?  The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
very end of 2019.  Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia.  Everyones' supply chains are
disrupted now but slowly improving.

Elecraft is based in California.  The population density in California
is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
[:=)  From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
their employees and families so they can continue normal production.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:

The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved

pre-covid.

Wondering what the facts are.
(not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
   string-along)

Scott



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Carl Yaffey]

> 
> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
> 
> Scott
> 
What? We’re not getting interest?
73 K8NU

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Tox]

Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
place. OK, that was missed.

I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
ignored by the public).

That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.

We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.

Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
(surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.

Scott

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Say again?  The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
> very end of 2019.  Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
> manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia.  Everyones' supply chains are
> disrupted now but slowly improving.
>
> Elecraft is based in California.  The population density in California
> is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
> else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
> [:=)  From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
> Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
> their employees and families so they can continue normal production.
>
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
> > The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
> pre-covid.
> > Wondering what the facts are.
> > (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
> >   string-along)
> >
> > Scott
> >
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Fred Jensen]

Say again?  The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the 
very end of 2019.  Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other 
manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia.  Everyones' supply chains are 
disrupted now but slowly improving.


Elecraft is based in California.  The population density in California 
is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone 
else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean. 
[:=)  From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks, 
Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect 
their employees and families so they can continue normal production.


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:

The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.
Wondering what the facts are.
(not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
  string-along)

Scott



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Ted Roycraft]

I imagine that there is no one who wants the K4 out the door more than 
Elecraft does.  It makes no sense to think that they are intentionally 
dragging their feet.


73, Ted, W2ZK   (eagerly awaiting the delivery of my K4 too)

On 7/16/2020 13:33, Dave Cole wrote:
Lets see, solved pre COVID, then COVID arrives, and messes up all 
existing scheduling...  No surprise here...


I doubt Elecraft has initiated a "string-along" process...  All good 
things take time...  In the middle of all this COVID crap, I am 
surprised Elecraft can do repair and return...


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 7/16/20 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved 
pre-covid.

Wondering what the facts are.
(not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
  string-along)

Scott


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:40 AM Joe DeVincentis  wrote:

Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO) 
group on

7/14 (Tuesday).

It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.

The question of K4 production was asked.  He was very forthright.  They
have adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety.  Good to
hear.

Eric said that the hold up right now is parts.  Unfortunately they 
can't

control the big manufacturers.  It does sound like production will be
soon.  Personally, I can't wait.  The more I hear about the radio, 
the more

excited I get.  I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here.

IIRC, ECHO plans to post the video on their youtube channel soon (
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA <
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA>)

73,
Joe, KO8V


On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:26, William Levy  wrote:

What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The 
Eureka

announcement.

I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is

little
stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement, 
hopefully

sooner than later.


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Tox]

November Delivery, pushed to Dec/Jan was no surprise.
Dec/Jan delivery unlikely to have been a casualty of COVID.

Scott


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:33 AM Dave Cole  wrote:

> Lets see, solved pre COVID, then COVID arrives, and messes up all
> existing scheduling...  No surprise here...
>
> I doubt Elecraft has initiated a "string-along" process...  All good
> things take time...  In the middle of all this COVID crap, I am
> surprised Elecraft can do repair and return...
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> On 7/16/20 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
> > The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
> pre-covid.
> > Wondering what the facts are.
> > (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
> >   string-along)
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:40 AM Joe DeVincentis  wrote:
> >
> >> Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO) group
> on
> >> 7/14 (Tuesday).
> >>
> >> It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.
> >>
> >> The question of K4 production was asked.  He was very forthright.  They
> >> have adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety.  Good to
> >> hear.
> >>
> >> Eric said that the hold up right now is parts.  Unfortunately they can't
> >> control the big manufacturers.  It does sound like production will be
> >> soon.  Personally, I can't wait.  The more I hear about the radio, the
> more
> >> excited I get.  I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here.
> >>
> >> IIRC, ECHO plans to post the video on their youtube channel soon (
> >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA <
> >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA>)
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Joe, KO8V
> >>
> >>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:26, William Levy  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
> >>> Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The
> Eureka
> >>> announcement.
> >>>
> >>> I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
> >>> lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is
> >> little
> >>> stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement,
> hopefully
> >>> sooner than later.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Dave Cole]

Lets see, solved pre COVID, then COVID arrives, and messes up all 
existing scheduling...  No surprise here...


I doubt Elecraft has initiated a "string-along" process...  All good 
things take time...  In the middle of all this COVID crap, I am 
surprised Elecraft can do repair and return...


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
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ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 7/16/20 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:

The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.
Wondering what the facts are.
(not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
  string-along)

Scott


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:40 AM Joe DeVincentis  wrote:


Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO) group on
7/14 (Tuesday).

It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.

The question of K4 production was asked.  He was very forthright.  They
have adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety.  Good to
hear.

Eric said that the hold up right now is parts.  Unfortunately they can't
control the big manufacturers.  It does sound like production will be
soon.  Personally, I can't wait.  The more I hear about the radio, the more
excited I get.  I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here.

IIRC, ECHO plans to post the video on their youtube channel soon (
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA <
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA>)

73,
Joe, KO8V


On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:26, William Levy  wrote:

What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The Eureka
announcement.

I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is

little

stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement, hopefully
sooner than later.


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Tox]

The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.
Wondering what the facts are.
(not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
 string-along)

Scott


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:40 AM Joe DeVincentis  wrote:

> Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO) group on
> 7/14 (Tuesday).
>
> It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.
>
> The question of K4 production was asked.  He was very forthright.  They
> have adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety.  Good to
> hear.
>
> Eric said that the hold up right now is parts.  Unfortunately they can't
> control the big manufacturers.  It does sound like production will be
> soon.  Personally, I can't wait.  The more I hear about the radio, the more
> excited I get.  I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here.
>
> IIRC, ECHO plans to post the video on their youtube channel soon (
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA <
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA>)
>
> 73,
> Joe, KO8V
>
> > On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:26, William Levy  wrote:
> >
> > What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
> > Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The Eureka
> > announcement.
> >
> > I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
> > lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is
> little
> > stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement, hopefully
> > sooner than later.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Joe DeVincentis]

Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO) group on 7/14 
(Tuesday).

It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.

The question of K4 production was asked.  He was very forthright.  They have 
adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety.  Good to hear.

Eric said that the hold up right now is parts.  Unfortunately they can't 
control the big manufacturers.  It does sound like production will be soon.  
Personally, I can't wait.  The more I hear about the radio, the more excited I 
get.  I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here.

IIRC, ECHO plans to post the video on their youtube channel soon 
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA 
)

73,
Joe, KO8V

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:26, William Levy  wrote:
> 
> What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
> Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The Eureka
> announcement.
> 
> I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
> lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is little
> stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement, hopefully
> sooner than later.

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[Elecraft] K4 in production

[William Levy]

What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The Eureka
announcement.

I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is little
stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement, hopefully
sooner than later.
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