Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[w7aqk]

Hi All,

The info I got from Space Weather today indicated that there were strong 
solar flares occurring, and radio blackouts were predicted.  I believe it! 
Yesterday I put up a "not so great" antenna to tinker with, hooked up my KX3 
(I'm traveling), and tried to snag a contact.  Even with this antenna, and 
running QRP, I rarely get skunked, but I did today!  Interestingly, I could 
hear W1AW, and a couple of 6's not all that far away, but otherwise, zilch!


The nostalgia about the late 50's is still something I well remember.  My 
rig only put out about 30 watts, and the antenna was a simple base loaded 
vertical, but I worked all sorts of DX back then.  My favorite hangout was 
the top 50 khz of 20 meters, which back then was CW only.  I had numerous 
QSO's with HZ1AB up there (I was living in Albuquerque), and I don't think 
I've worked Saudi Arabia since!  I wasn't a 6 meter op back then, but it 
must have been good!  One day I flipped channels on our TV and suddenly I 
was watching a crystal clear picture from KSTP in Minneapolis!   It wasn't 
just a short event either, as I watched it for over an hour.  Maybe this 
sort of thing still happens now and then, but since most of us are hooked up 
to cable TV, we don't know!


Dave W7AQK




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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Bob Nielsen]

Also limited to a narrow portion of the bands, not where the DX normally 
hung out.


I was a Novice in 1952-53, at the bottom of a cycle.  In fact, at the 
peak of each cycle since then I have not been on the air (timing is 
everything) or was putting up with a stealth antenna system.  Still, I 
have been close enough to experience some reasonably good propagation.


Bob, N7XY

On 7/23/16 2:14 PM, Mark Bayern wrote:

... and a _one_ year license!



On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Mark Bayern  wrote:

So far no one has mentioned the Novice limitations. 75 watts input to
the final, crystal controlled.  (At least that is what I remember in
the mid 60's.)

Mark  AD5SS

On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Tony Estep  wrote:

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Bill W4ZV  wrote:


The peak was actually late December 1957 (Solar Flux = 375 and sunspots =
355).
I was very lucky to be QRV then and made the first Novice DXCC:
http://www.novice.bappy.com/about_21.html



Yep, those were legendary days. I too made Novice DXCC, shortly after Bill.
He was KN4RID in those days. I worked my 100th right after he got his, but
I stuck my cards in a drawer and didn't send them in for over a decade.
Finally I dug 'em out and got my DXCC certificate, issued under my novice
call, KN0LTB. It's still up on the wall.There was one other novice who did
it, but I can't remember who it was. The bands were open practically 24
hours and 15 meter CW, which was where you had to be as a novice, was
hopping all the time. You could hear scientists from all over using calls
ending in -IGY, standing for international geophysical year. They traveled
to far-flung places to take readings on propagation, weather patterns,
aurora, and anything else they expected to be affected by the record levels
of solar activity. Those were the days of phone patches (no Skype), and 15
phone had a constant flow of patched conversations from scientist phoning
back to the home folks. Even in those days there was SSB activity, mostly
coming from 10 watt phasing exciters. Other popular rigs included the
Viking Ranger and the Heath DX-100. The tube of the day was the 6146. The
older hams who mentored me had home-brew rack-mounted monstrosities,
plug-in coils, something like a pair of 250TH tubes modulated by another
pair of 250THs, power transformer as big as a wastebasket.

73,
Tony KT0NY




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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Wes Stewart]

Actually, I sort of did.

 "I had my BC342 and a Millen transmitter and a couple of 40-meter crystals."

I still have the BC342.

On 7/23/2016 2:13 PM, Mark Bayern wrote:

So far no one has mentioned the Novice limitations. 75 watts input to
the final, crystal controlled.  (At least that is what I remember in
the mid 60's.)

Mark  AD5SS



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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Bill W4ZV]

Tony Estep wrote
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Bill W4ZV 

> btippett@.mit

>  wrote:
> 
> Yep, those were legendary days. I too made Novice DXCC, shortly after
> Bill.
> He was KN4RID in those days. I worked my 100th right after he got his, but
> I stuck my cards in a drawer and didn't send them in for over a decade.
> Finally I dug 'em out and got my DXCC certificate, issued under my novice
> call, KN0LTB. It's still up on the wall.There was one other novice who did
> it, but I can't remember who it was. 

Hi Tony.  Sorry my linked story didn't mention that you received DXCC
because at the time I wrote that article I didn't see it in late 50s QSTs. 
After checking later QSTs, there were actually 4 that made it:

Call QST   Total
KN4RID  Nov 58 102
KN4RID  Oct 59  114  (an endorsement)
KN1IVT  May 60 100
KN0LTB  Aug 67 102
WN8TNDSep 67  105

For Mark, another restriction was that we were limited to 21.100 and above,
but many DX stations lower in the band would respond if you answered their
CQs.  My guess is this was because many were using military surplus RXs
which did not have great resolution, so they sometimes answered even if you
were way off their TX frequency. 

Those days were the golden years of DXing IMHO...no spotting, no lists, no
mega-expeditions and the key to success was lots and lots of tuning the
bands and listening.

73,  Bill





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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Mark Bayern]

... and a _one_ year license!



On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Mark Bayern  wrote:
> So far no one has mentioned the Novice limitations. 75 watts input to
> the final, crystal controlled.  (At least that is what I remember in
> the mid 60's.)
>
> Mark  AD5SS
>
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Tony Estep  wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Bill W4ZV  wrote:
>>
>>> The peak was actually late December 1957 (Solar Flux = 375 and sunspots =
>>> 355).
>>> I was very lucky to be QRV then and made the first Novice DXCC:
>>> http://www.novice.bappy.com/about_21.html
>>>
>> 
>> Yep, those were legendary days. I too made Novice DXCC, shortly after Bill.
>> He was KN4RID in those days. I worked my 100th right after he got his, but
>> I stuck my cards in a drawer and didn't send them in for over a decade.
>> Finally I dug 'em out and got my DXCC certificate, issued under my novice
>> call, KN0LTB. It's still up on the wall.There was one other novice who did
>> it, but I can't remember who it was. The bands were open practically 24
>> hours and 15 meter CW, which was where you had to be as a novice, was
>> hopping all the time. You could hear scientists from all over using calls
>> ending in -IGY, standing for international geophysical year. They traveled
>> to far-flung places to take readings on propagation, weather patterns,
>> aurora, and anything else they expected to be affected by the record levels
>> of solar activity. Those were the days of phone patches (no Skype), and 15
>> phone had a constant flow of patched conversations from scientist phoning
>> back to the home folks. Even in those days there was SSB activity, mostly
>> coming from 10 watt phasing exciters. Other popular rigs included the
>> Viking Ranger and the Heath DX-100. The tube of the day was the 6146. The
>> older hams who mentored me had home-brew rack-mounted monstrosities,
>> plug-in coils, something like a pair of 250TH tubes modulated by another
>> pair of 250THs, power transformer as big as a wastebasket.
>>
>> 73,
>> Tony KT0NY
>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Mark Bayern]

So far no one has mentioned the Novice limitations. 75 watts input to
the final, crystal controlled.  (At least that is what I remember in
the mid 60's.)

Mark  AD5SS

On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Tony Estep  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Bill W4ZV  wrote:
>
>> The peak was actually late December 1957 (Solar Flux = 375 and sunspots =
>> 355).
>> I was very lucky to be QRV then and made the first Novice DXCC:
>> http://www.novice.bappy.com/about_21.html
>>
> 
> Yep, those were legendary days. I too made Novice DXCC, shortly after Bill.
> He was KN4RID in those days. I worked my 100th right after he got his, but
> I stuck my cards in a drawer and didn't send them in for over a decade.
> Finally I dug 'em out and got my DXCC certificate, issued under my novice
> call, KN0LTB. It's still up on the wall.There was one other novice who did
> it, but I can't remember who it was. The bands were open practically 24
> hours and 15 meter CW, which was where you had to be as a novice, was
> hopping all the time. You could hear scientists from all over using calls
> ending in -IGY, standing for international geophysical year. They traveled
> to far-flung places to take readings on propagation, weather patterns,
> aurora, and anything else they expected to be affected by the record levels
> of solar activity. Those were the days of phone patches (no Skype), and 15
> phone had a constant flow of patched conversations from scientist phoning
> back to the home folks. Even in those days there was SSB activity, mostly
> coming from 10 watt phasing exciters. Other popular rigs included the
> Viking Ranger and the Heath DX-100. The tube of the day was the 6146. The
> older hams who mentored me had home-brew rack-mounted monstrosities,
> plug-in coils, something like a pair of 250TH tubes modulated by another
> pair of 250THs, power transformer as big as a wastebasket.
>
> 73,
> Tony KT0NY
>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Tony Estep]

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Bill W4ZV  wrote:

> The peak was actually late December 1957 (Solar Flux = 375 and sunspots =
> 355).
> I was very lucky to be QRV then and made the first Novice DXCC:
> http://www.novice.bappy.com/about_21.html
>

Yep, those were legendary days. I too made Novice DXCC, shortly after Bill.
He was KN4RID in those days. I worked my 100th right after he got his, but
I stuck my cards in a drawer and didn't send them in for over a decade.
Finally I dug 'em out and got my DXCC certificate, issued under my novice
call, KN0LTB. It's still up on the wall.There was one other novice who did
it, but I can't remember who it was. The bands were open practically 24
hours and 15 meter CW, which was where you had to be as a novice, was
hopping all the time. You could hear scientists from all over using calls
ending in -IGY, standing for international geophysical year. They traveled
to far-flung places to take readings on propagation, weather patterns,
aurora, and anything else they expected to be affected by the record levels
of solar activity. Those were the days of phone patches (no Skype), and 15
phone had a constant flow of patched conversations from scientist phoning
back to the home folks. Even in those days there was SSB activity, mostly
coming from 10 watt phasing exciters. Other popular rigs included the
Viking Ranger and the Heath DX-100. The tube of the day was the 6146. The
older hams who mentored me had home-brew rack-mounted monstrosities,
plug-in coils, something like a pair of 250TH tubes modulated by another
pair of 250THs, power transformer as big as a wastebasket.

73,
Tony KT0NY

>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Vic Rosenthal]

375! And today I'm happy when it breaks 100.

Vic 4X6GP

> On 23 Jul 2016, at 04:22, Bill W4ZV  wrote:
> 
> Guy Olinger K2AV wrote
>> I remember 1956 - 1958. Conditions have never been that way since. We are
>> in the trough of a very long term solar super-cycle that had a peak in
>> 1956.
> 
> The peak was actually late December 1957 (Solar Flux = 375 and sunspots =
> 355).  
> 
> http://www.solen.info/solar/history/hist1957.html
> 
> I was very lucky to be QRV then and made the first Novice DXCC:
> 
> http://www.novice.bappy.com/about_21.html
> 
> 73,  Bill  W4ZV
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Bill W4ZV]

Guy Olinger K2AV wrote
> I remember 1956 - 1958. Conditions have never been that way since. We are
> in the trough of a very long term solar super-cycle that had a peak in
> 1956.

The peak was actually late December 1957 (Solar Flux = 375 and sunspots =
355).  

http://www.solen.info/solar/history/hist1957.html

I was very lucky to be QRV then and made the first Novice DXCC:

http://www.novice.bappy.com/about_21.html

73,  Bill  W4ZV






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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[John K7JLT]

Yesterday I couldn't see any activity on 20 Meters but worked Pactor 3 at the 
maximum speed over a 1200 mile path.  Far from a dead band.

John K7JLT
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Wes Stewart]

At our monthly Southern Arizona DX Association club meeting last night, as we 
often do, we go around the room to hear what guys have worked since the last 
meeting. Personally, because it's thunderstorm season, I've been disconnected 
most of the month.  Others have not.


One guy, a top of the Honor Roll type, reported working 400 band/countries on HF 
and 47 states on 6-meters.  Another top of the Honor Roll guy, now a 6 and 
160 specialist worked 18 Europeans on 6 this past week.  And that's not from 
Maine, it's from southern Arizona.


The bands aren't great, but they are far from dead.


On 7/21/2016 9:22 PM, tomb18 wrote:

Just open a panadapter on 20m during the day...depressing. makes you wonder if 
it's working


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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Wes Stewart]

I was licensed as a Novice in 1958 and upgraded to Conditional shortly after.  
My Elmer, W7UVR, who signed both applications told me he didn't want the RI 
coming around and retesting me and having me fail, hence getting him in 
trouble.  So he said I better stay on CW for the duration.  I had my BC342 and a 
Millen transmitter and a couple of 40-meter crystals.  I dutifully stayed on 40 
(except when my 2nd harmonic worked an FCC monitoring station and I received a 
"pink" QSL.  My high school English teacher helped me write a very convincing 
letter to them)


Always a DXer at heart, I would stay up all night during the summer eking out 
QSOs on 40.  My Elmer finally took pity on me and loaned me an Elmac AF67 that 
worked 10-meter AM.  What a revelation; on 40 I would spend nights trying to 
work VK, on 10 I was working them by the dozen on phone in the daytime.  Magical.


Wes

ps. I can also remember seeing aurora here in Tucson, 32deg N.

On 7/22/2016 11:17 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

I remember 1956 - 1958. Conditions have never been that way since. We are
in the trough of a very long term solar super-cycle that had a peak in
1956.



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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Nova is normally on your local PBS channel.

73, Guy K2AV

On Friday, July 22, 2016, Mel Farrer via Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
wrote:

> I have tried to find the NOVA series on Direct TV without success.  Anyone
> know what channel it will be on?
> Mel, K6KBE
>
>
>   From: Grant Youngman <ghyoung...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
>  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <javascript:;>
>  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:01 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle
>
> Or even DX on 15 at 2-3 o'clock in the morning.  My little DX-40 worked a
> lot of DX in those days -- phone and CW -- and it rarely mattered what time
> of day it was.
>
> I don't think conditions have been anywhere close to that since 
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Kevin Cozens <ke...@ve3syb.ca
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> On 16-07-21 10:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> >> I was first licensed in 1955 and cycle 19 (the granddaddy of them all)
> was
> >> on the rise.
> >> Those were the times when you could work the world with 10 watts on 10
> >> meters during the daytime hours.
> >
> > The bands would have been a lot quieter back in the 50's as there was
> neither the population density nor the amount of technology to pollute the
> airwaves with stray RF signals.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Kevin.
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Mel Farrer via Elecraft]

I have tried to find the NOVA series on Direct TV without success.  Anyone know 
what channel it will be on?
Mel, K6KBE


  From: Grant Youngman <ghyoung...@gmail.com>
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Or even DX on 15 at 2-3 o'clock in the morning.  My little DX-40 worked a lot 
of DX in those days -- phone and CW -- and it rarely mattered what time of day 
it was. 

I don't think conditions have been anywhere close to that since 

Grant NQ5T 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Kevin Cozens <ke...@ve3syb.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On 16-07-21 10:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> I was first licensed in 1955 and cycle 19 (the granddaddy of them all) was
>> on the rise.
>> Those were the times when you could work the world with 10 watts on 10
>> meters during the daytime hours.
> 
> The bands would have been a lot quieter back in the 50's as there was neither 
> the population density nor the amount of technology to pollute the airwaves 
> with stray RF signals.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers!
> 
> Kevin.
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

I remember 1956 - 1958. Conditions have never been that way since. We are
in the trough of a very long term solar super-cycle that had a peak in
1956.

In '56 every day in Columbus OH I could see test patterns on channel 2 from
Miami FL. Oh, to have had a K3/KPA500 back then.

11 meters was a ham band on my friend's dad's 75A3. And 10 was jumping.

73, Guy K2AV

On Friday, July 22, 2016, Grant Youngman  wrote:

> Or even DX on 15 at 2-3 o'clock in the morning.  My little DX-40 worked a
> lot of DX in those days -- phone and CW -- and it rarely mattered what time
> of day it was.
>
> I don't think conditions have been anywhere close to that since 
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Kevin Cozens  > wrote:
> >
> >> On 16-07-21 10:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> >> I was first licensed in 1955 and cycle 19 (the granddaddy of them all)
> was
> >> on the rise.
> >> Those were the times when you could work the world with 10 watts on 10
> >> meters during the daytime hours.
> >
> > The bands would have been a lot quieter back in the 50's as there was
> neither the population density nor the amount of technology to pollute the
> airwaves with stray RF signals.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Kevin.
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Grant Youngman]

Or even DX on 15 at 2-3 o'clock in the morning.  My little DX-40 worked a lot 
of DX in those days -- phone and CW -- and it rarely mattered what time of day 
it was. 

I don't think conditions have been anywhere close to that since 

Grant NQ5T 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Kevin Cozens  wrote:
> 
>> On 16-07-21 10:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> I was first licensed in 1955 and cycle 19 (the granddaddy of them all) was
>> on the rise.
>> Those were the times when you could work the world with 10 watts on 10
>> meters during the daytime hours.
> 
> The bands would have been a lot quieter back in the 50's as there was neither 
> the population density nor the amount of technology to pollute the airwaves 
> with stray RF signals.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers!
> 
> Kevin.
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Kevin Cozens]

On 16-07-21 10:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

I was first licensed in 1955 and cycle 19 (the granddaddy of them all) was
on the rise.
Those were the times when you could work the world with 10 watts on 10
meters during the daytime hours.


The bands would have been a lot quieter back in the 50's as there was 
neither the population density nor the amount of technology to pollute the 
airwaves with stray RF signals.


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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[EricJ]

Secrets of the Sun. Took 5 seconds on google to discover it is on 
youtube.com, and blocked in my area (So Cal) on PBS.


Eric KE6US



On 7/21/2016 9:22 PM, tomb18 wrote:

Just open a panadapter on 20m during the day...depressing. makes you wonder if 
it's working


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle
I’m currently traveling in Oregon, and watched it on the Portland area PBS 
station (Oregon Public Broadcasting).  I assume it is the most current program 
in the Nova series, but I missed the actual title as I didn’t tune in until 
about 5 minutes after it started.  Sometimes there is a slight lag between on 
air viewing and their website availability, but just about every Nova program 
ends up on the website for viewing online.  Check the dates shown, and it 
should be the one for this week.  If it’s not there yet, it will be, and they 
even said it would be available online.  Also, most PBS stations broadcast Nova 
multiple times during the week, so check your own station’s schedule for the 
week.  Looking at OPB’s schedule, I think the title may be “ Secrets OF The 
Sun”.  Here it is being aired multiple times this week.

I might just add that there are few programs on TV these days that are better 
than Nova.  It is marvelous!  My other favorite is “Frontline”, but, of course, 
there are still other superb programs that are pure entertainment, like 
“Masterpiece”.  If you are not a regular PBS viewer, I think you are really 
missing something!  My satellite TV system gives me just about anything that is 
available, but in truth, I could probably survive quite nicely with just two 
channels—PBS and Turner Classic Movies!  Well, I do like to watch a little golf 
and football!  Hi.

Dave W7AQK



From: a...@sbcglobal.net
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To: Elecraft Reflector ; w7aqk
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

   Can you check your PBS TV station schedule and give us the title of that 
NOVA program? Our station was running the RNC.

   Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
  





From: w7aqk <w7...@cox.net>;
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>;
Subject: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle
Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2016 7:05:56 PM


   Hi All,

   FWIW, there was a very interesting program I watched last night on PBS.  
The
   regular program called "Nova" had a most informative discussion about the
   solar cycle and how it affects us here on Earth.  It won't tell you
   everything you want to know about propagation, etc., but it does give a 
lot
   of perspective as to why our communications can be so disrupted by solar
   storms.  They also talked a lot about "sunspots"!  We tend to think the 
more
   the better for us, but do we really understand how they form, and the 
effect
   they have?  This gives you some insight about that.

   Anyway, you might want to check it out, and I think you can watch it 
online
   at www.pbs.org/nova.

   Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[EricJ]

Secrets of the Sun. Took 5 seconds on google to discover it is on 
youtube.com, and blocked in my area (So Cal) on PBS.


Eric KE6US



On 7/21/2016 9:22 PM, tomb18 wrote:

Just open a panadapter on 20m during the day...depressing. makes you wonder if 
it's working


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: w7aqk <w7...@cox.net> Date: 2016-07-21  11:37 
PM  (GMT-05:00) To: a...@sbcglobal.net, Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle
I’m currently traveling in Oregon, and watched it on the Portland area PBS 
station (Oregon Public Broadcasting).  I assume it is the most current program 
in the Nova series, but I missed the actual title as I didn’t tune in until 
about 5 minutes after it started.  Sometimes there is a slight lag between on 
air viewing and their website availability, but just about every Nova program 
ends up on the website for viewing online.  Check the dates shown, and it 
should be the one for this week.  If it’s not there yet, it will be, and they 
even said it would be available online.  Also, most PBS stations broadcast Nova 
multiple times during the week, so check your own station’s schedule for the 
week.  Looking at OPB’s schedule, I think the title may be “ Secrets OF The 
Sun”.  Here it is being aired multiple times this week.

I might just add that there are few programs on TV these days that are better 
than Nova.  It is marvelous!  My other favorite is “Frontline”, but, of course, 
there are still other superb programs that are pure entertainment, like 
“Masterpiece”.  If you are not a regular PBS viewer, I think you are really 
missing something!  My satellite TV system gives me just about anything that is 
available, but in truth, I could probably survive quite nicely with just two 
channels—PBS and Turner Classic Movies!  Well, I do like to watch a little golf 
and football!  Hi.

Dave W7AQK



From: a...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 2:25 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector ; w7aqk
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

   Can you check your PBS TV station schedule and give us the title of that 
NOVA program? Our station was running the RNC.

   Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
  





From: w7aqk <w7...@cox.net>;
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>;
Subject: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle
Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2016 7:05:56 PM


   Hi All,

   FWIW, there was a very interesting program I watched last night on PBS.  
The
   regular program called "Nova" had a most informative discussion about the
   solar cycle and how it affects us here on Earth.  It won't tell you
   everything you want to know about propagation, etc., but it does give a 
lot
   of perspective as to why our communications can be so disrupted by solar
   storms.  They also talked a lot about "sunspots"!  We tend to think the 
more
   the better for us, but do we really understand how they form, and the 
effect
   they have?  This gives you some insight about that.

   Anyway, you might want to check it out, and I think you can watch it 
online
   at www.pbs.org/nova.

   Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[tomb18]

Just open a panadapter on 20m during the day...depressing. makes you wonder if 
it's working


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: w7aqk <w7...@cox.net> Date: 2016-07-21  
11:37 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: a...@sbcglobal.net, Elecraft Reflector 
<elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle 
I’m currently traveling in Oregon, and watched it on the Portland area PBS 
station (Oregon Public Broadcasting).  I assume it is the most current program 
in the Nova series, but I missed the actual title as I didn’t tune in until 
about 5 minutes after it started.  Sometimes there is a slight lag between on 
air viewing and their website availability, but just about every Nova program 
ends up on the website for viewing online.  Check the dates shown, and it 
should be the one for this week.  If it’s not there yet, it will be, and they 
even said it would be available online.  Also, most PBS stations broadcast Nova 
multiple times during the week, so check your own station’s schedule for the 
week.  Looking at OPB’s schedule, I think the title may be “ Secrets OF The 
Sun”.  Here it is being aired multiple times this week.

I might just add that there are few programs on TV these days that are better 
than Nova.  It is marvelous!  My other favorite is “Frontline”, but, of course, 
there are still other superb programs that are pure entertainment, like 
“Masterpiece”.  If you are not a regular PBS viewer, I think you are really 
missing something!  My satellite TV system gives me just about anything that is 
available, but in truth, I could probably survive quite nicely with just two 
channels—PBS and Turner Classic Movies!  Well, I do like to watch a little golf 
and football!  Hi.

Dave W7AQK



From: a...@sbcglobal.net 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 2:25 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector ; w7aqk 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

  Can you check your PBS TV station schedule and give us the title of that 
NOVA program? Our station was running the RNC.

  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 




From: w7aqk <w7...@cox.net>; 
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>; 
Subject: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle 
Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2016 7:05:56 PM 


  Hi All,

  FWIW, there was a very interesting program I watched last night on PBS.  
The 
  regular program called "Nova" had a most informative discussion about the 
  solar cycle and how it affects us here on Earth.  It won't tell you 
  everything you want to know about propagation, etc., but it does give a 
lot 
  of perspective as to why our communications can be so disrupted by solar 
  storms.  They also talked a lot about "sunspots"!  We tend to think the 
more 
  the better for us, but do we really understand how they form, and the 
effect 
  they have?  This gives you some insight about that.

  Anyway, you might want to check it out, and I think you can watch it 
online 
  at www.pbs.org/nova.

  Dave W7AQK


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[w7aqk]

I’m currently traveling in Oregon, and watched it on the Portland area PBS 
station (Oregon Public Broadcasting).  I assume it is the most current program 
in the Nova series, but I missed the actual title as I didn’t tune in until 
about 5 minutes after it started.  Sometimes there is a slight lag between on 
air viewing and their website availability, but just about every Nova program 
ends up on the website for viewing online.  Check the dates shown, and it 
should be the one for this week.  If it’s not there yet, it will be, and they 
even said it would be available online.  Also, most PBS stations broadcast Nova 
multiple times during the week, so check your own station’s schedule for the 
week.  Looking at OPB’s schedule, I think the title may be “ Secrets OF The 
Sun”.  Here it is being aired multiple times this week.

I might just add that there are few programs on TV these days that are better 
than Nova.  It is marvelous!  My other favorite is “Frontline”, but, of course, 
there are still other superb programs that are pure entertainment, like 
“Masterpiece”.  If you are not a regular PBS viewer, I think you are really 
missing something!  My satellite TV system gives me just about anything that is 
available, but in truth, I could probably survive quite nicely with just two 
channels—PBS and Turner Classic Movies!  Well, I do like to watch a little golf 
and football!  Hi.

Dave W7AQK



From: a...@sbcglobal.net 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 2:25 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector ; w7aqk 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

  Can you check your PBS TV station schedule and give us the title of that 
NOVA program? Our station was running the RNC.

  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 




From: w7aqk <w7...@cox.net>; 
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>; 
Subject: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle 
Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2016 7:05:56 PM 


  Hi All,

  FWIW, there was a very interesting program I watched last night on PBS.  
The 
  regular program called "Nova" had a most informative discussion about the 
  solar cycle and how it affects us here on Earth.  It won't tell you 
  everything you want to know about propagation, etc., but it does give a 
lot 
  of perspective as to why our communications can be so disrupted by solar 
  storms.  They also talked a lot about "sunspots"!  We tend to think the 
more 
  the better for us, but do we really understand how they form, and the 
effect 
  they have?  This gives you some insight about that.

  Anyway, you might want to check it out, and I think you can watch it 
online 
  at www.pbs.org/nova.

  Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Don Wilhelm]

Vic,

I was first licensed in 1955 and cycle 19 (the granddaddy of them all) 
was on the rise.
Those were the times when you could work the world with 10 watts on 10 
meters during the daytime hours.


Those were exciting times for ham radio, but we have not seen anything 
like it since.
It appears we are declining in sunspot numbers rapidly this cycle.  I 
just wonder what the next few years will bring propagation wise.


Ham radio is still exciting, but the ability to work far DX contacts 
with ease is not with us anymore - we just have to work harder at it, 
but it is possible, pick the right band and the right time of day, and 
have patience.  It may force more DX operators to use CW or data modes.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/21/2016 8:50 PM, Vic Rosenthal wrote:

It just doesn't work like it did in 1957.
But then, neither does other stuff.




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[Vic Rosenthal]

It just doesn't work like it did in 1957.
But then, neither does other stuff.

Vic 4X6GP

> On 22 Jul 2016, at 00:48, Bob Nielsen  wrote:
> 
> I did it a few days ago.  I didn't hear anything.
> 
>> On 7/21/16 2:26 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
>> I still do that.  No boot up time required and it's location specific..
>> 
>>> On 7/21/2016 1:53 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>>> Time was, we just turned on the receiver and tuned across the bands.
>>> 
>>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Fred Jensen]

The solar cycle originated thanks to fruitcake [Fc].  All the fruitcake 
in the universe was created at the Big Bang, along with a lot of 
hydrogen [H] and some helium [He].  The hydrogen and helium began to 
float upward of course ... think Goodyear or Hindenburg ... but the Fc, 
being the densest thing in the universe began to gather the H and He 
into massive clumps using its gravity.


When the hydrogen became dense enough around the fruitcake, it began to 
fuse -- two H --> one He.  The helium atom weighed just a bit less than 
the two hydrogen's which showed up as a lot of energy which heated the 
clump until it began to emit light and other stuff [a technical term 
used by astrophysicists].  Eventually two He began to fuse producing one 
lithium [Li] atom and a lot more energy.  This of course was the 
beginning of laptop and cell phone batteries -- and Tesla.


This continued until almost all of the H and He was iron [Fe].  There 
was also the fruitcake of course, nothing fuses with fruitcake.  To fuse 
two Fe atoms would produce negative energy which hadn't been invented 
then, so with nothing left to do, the clump exploded and that was the 
first solar cycle.


All that fusing produced heavier elements which drifted around in space 
and eventually formed more hot, bright clumps with fruitcake at the 
center.  Some atoms were aluminum [Al] which formed into vast sheets 
called Reynolds Wrap [Rw], and which had an affinity for the Fc, 
wrapping itself around the Fc like Glad Wrap wraps around everything in 
the kitchen but the dish you're trying to cover.  That's how we find 
fruitcake today.


With the heavier elements, the hot bright clumps settled into a pattern 
of occasional explosions or semi-explosions, and that became the solar 
cycle we know, love, and anxiously wait for.


There is a Conservation of Fruitcake law.  You can't destroy it.  You 
can give it away, however it is nearly uniformly distributed in the 
universe and likely will come back at some point, usually around Christmas.


Many things have a half-life ... the time it takes for half of it to 
disappear or morph into something else.  The half-life of both disco and 
leisure suits was blessedly short.  The half-life of fruitcake is forever.


Eat your heart out, NOVA.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Rocket Scientist

On 7/21/2016 12:05 PM, w7aqk wrote:

Hi All,

FWIW, there was a very interesting program I watched last night on PBS.
The regular program called "Nova" had a most informative discussion
about the solar cycle and how it affects us here on Earth.  It won't
tell you everything you want to know about propagation, etc., but it
does give a lot of perspective as to why our communications can be so
disrupted by solar storms.  They also talked a lot about "sunspots"!  We
tend to think the more the better for us, but do we really understand
how they form, and the effect they have?  This gives you some insight
about that.

Anyway, you might want to check it out, and I think you can watch it
online at www.pbs.org/nova.

Dave W7AQK


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[EricJ]

That's tougher to do these days. A lot of people are busy on the 
internet or whatever and watching spots. I see this in county hunting, 
SKCC and just about everywhere. During the week, I can tune the entire 
CW portion of 20 meters and not hear a single station. A check on RBN 
shows me hitting just about every skimmer in North America with a decent 
signal, so I know I'm getting out and everything's working, but nobody 
is calling CQ or in QSO. The conditions are there for stateside, but 
nobody's on. Weekends light up if there is a contest. Signals will be 
decent until the end of the contest, then the last one out turns off the 
lights. Not a peep to be heard late Sunday afternoon. It's eerie.


I tune around 20m CW  two or three times a day and call CQ if RBN shows 
there's any hope of being heard somewhere, but during the week it can 
get frustrating. That would be fine, but it's too damn hot to work on 
projects in the garage instead.


Eric KE6US




On 7/21/2016 1:53 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

Time was, we just turned on the receiver and tuned across the bands.

73, Ron AC7AC



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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Phil Wheeler]

Peaceful, isn't it?

On 7/21/16 2:48 PM, Bob Nielsen wrote:

I did it a few days ago.  I didn't hear anything.

On 7/21/16 2:26 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
I still do that.  No boot up time required and 
it's location specific..


On 7/21/2016 1:53 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
Time was, we just turned on the receiver and 
tuned across the bands.


73, Ron AC7AC

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Behalf Of Phil

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

OTOH sometimes "no news is good news". 
Propagation data these days is not

happy reading, Bill ;-)

Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S

On Jul 21, 2016, at 13:19, Bill 
<w2...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:


http://www.bandconditions.com/   Great for a 
quick glance at band

conditions and some other related stuff also.

Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Bill W4ZV]

"Secrets of the Sun" is free on youtube: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncphh8FWUUE

73,  Bill  W4ZV



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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Wes Stewart]

Connect an antenna.

On 7/21/2016 2:48 PM, Bob Nielsen wrote:

I did it a few days ago.  I didn't hear anything.

On 7/21/16 2:26 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:

I still do that.  No boot up time required and it's location specific..


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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Bob Nielsen]

I did it a few days ago.  I didn't hear anything.

On 7/21/16 2:26 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:

I still do that.  No boot up time required and it's location specific..

On 7/21/2016 1:53 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

Time was, we just turned on the receiver and tuned across the bands.

73, Ron AC7AC

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Phil

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

OTOH sometimes "no news is good news". Propagation data these days is 
not

happy reading, Bill ;-)

Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S


On Jul 21, 2016, at 13:19, Bill <w2...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

http://www.bandconditions.com/   Great for a quick glance at band

conditions and some other related stuff also.

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Augie "Gus" Hansen]

"Secrets of the Sun"
04/25/2012 was the original broadcast date

73,
Gus


On 7/21/2016 3:25 PM, a...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Can you check your PBS TV station schedule and give us the title of that NOVA 
program?  Our station was running the RNC.

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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Wes Stewart]

I still do that.  No boot up time required and it's location specific..

On 7/21/2016 1:53 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

Time was, we just turned on the receiver and tuned across the bands.

73, Ron AC7AC

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OTOH sometimes "no news is good news". Propagation data these days is not
happy reading, Bill ;-)

Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S


On Jul 21, 2016, at 13:19, Bill <w2...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

http://www.bandconditions.com/   Great for a quick glance at band

conditions and some other related stuff also.

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Can you check your PBS TV station schedule and give us the title of that NOVA 
program?  Our station was running the RNC.

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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Time was, we just turned on the receiver and tuned across the bands. 

73, Ron AC7AC 

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OTOH sometimes "no news is good news". Propagation data these days is not
happy reading, Bill ;-)

Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On Jul 21, 2016, at 13:19, Bill <w2...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> http://www.bandconditions.com/   Great for a quick glance at band
conditions and some other related stuff also.
> 
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[Phil Wheeler]

OTOH sometimes "no news is good news". Propagation data these days is not happy 
reading, Bill ;-)

Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On Jul 21, 2016, at 13:19, Bill  wrote:
> 
> http://www.bandconditions.com/   Great for a quick glance at band conditions 
> and some other related stuff also.
> 
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[Bill]

http://www.bandconditions.com/   Great for a quick glance at band 
conditions and some other related stuff also.


Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] Solar Cycle

[ab2tc]

Silly me, I meant "solar cycle".

AB2TC - Knut


ab2tc wrote
> Hi Dave,
> 
> The link works but I could not find the video you mention. I put "solar
> circle" into their search engine and it came up with nothing from this
> year. Maybe you can provide some more details on how to work this site.
> The program sounds very interesting.
> 
> AB2TC - Knut
> 





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[ab2tc]

Hi Dave,

The link works but I could not find the video you mention. I put "solar
circle" into their search engine and it came up with nothing from this year.
Maybe you can provide some more details on how to work this site. The
program sounds very interesting.

AB2TC - Knut


w7aqk wrote
> Hi All,
> 
> FWIW, there was a very interesting program I watched last night on PBS. 
> The 
> regular program called "Nova" had a most informative discussion about the 
> solar cycle and how it affects us here on Earth.  It won't tell you 
> everything you want to know about propagation, etc., but it does give a
> lot 
> of perspective as to why our communications can be so disrupted by solar 
> storms.  They also talked a lot about "sunspots"!  We tend to think the
> more 
> the better for us, but do we really understand how they form, and the
> effect 
> they have?  This gives you some insight about that.
> 
> Anyway, you might want to check it out, and I think you can watch it
> online 
> at www.pbs.org/nova.
> 
> Dave W7AQK
> 





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