[Elecraft] Alumni question

2016-12-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Hi,

I am wondering how many others on this reflector are part of the Case 
Tech Alumni or for the "younger ones" CWRU Alumni.


I have recently had email exchanges with a couple hams who are active in 
the Case amateur radio station W8EDU.


73,
Don W3FPR
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[Elecraft] Macros that need to be executed twice

2016-12-16 Thread Cady, Fred
Some folks have observed that sometimes a macro need to be executed twice in 
order for it to reach the desired end state.  VE3YT and I have a theory on what 
may be causing that and would like some test cases.  So if you have a macro 
that doesn't seem to work reliably or needs to be run twice, could you please 
send it along to me.

We'll let you know what we find out.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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[Elecraft] KPA500

2016-12-16 Thread John Altman
I just acquired a used KPA500 that has the prior owners call sign embedded
in the start up firmware.

How do I remove this call sign and replace with my call? Utility?

Tks,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

2016-12-16 Thread Doug Person
I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is 
extra work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers 
could join in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be 
happy to make a contribution.


The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable 
with each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm 
running on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances 
in mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very 
bright.


Doug -- K0DXV

On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:

Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went through a 
ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of that issue. In 
both instances I had to compile from source. Once the dependencies were addressed, 
the compilation process went well, although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft 
doesn’t provide source for the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off 
the RPi and over to my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang 
it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA



On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell  
wrote:

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool chain 
and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent fixing other 
problems.

I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required for 
another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee capital.

Here's hoping for the future, though.

Tim
KG1GEM

PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the list 
originally.


On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:

I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, using 
CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 and 
JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can get the 
full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from the Elecraft 
web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” executable, nothing 
happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? I am using the Raspian 
Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2016-12-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

John,

Yes, you should be able to edit the power on message with KPA500 Utility.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2016 12:50 PM, John Altman wrote:

I just acquired a used KPA500 that has the prior owners call sign embedded
in the start up firmware.

How do I remove this call sign and replace with my call? Utility?

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[Elecraft] Small Keyboard Recommendation for P3/SVGA

2016-12-16 Thread Irwin Darack
I am looking for a small keyboard recommendation for the P3/SVGA. I already
have it working  with a large keyboard. Would  like to find a mini keyboard
instead to save room on my Ham Shack Self.

Does Elecraft have a list of compatible Keyboards?

Logitec, Microsoft? etc.

Thanks and regards,

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Re: [Elecraft] Small Keyboard Recommendation for P3/SVGA

2016-12-16 Thread Ed K1EP
Will it work with a wireless keyboard?

On Dec 16, 2016 1:47 PM, "Irwin Darack"  wrote:

> I am looking for a small keyboard recommendation for the P3/SVGA. I already
> have it working  with a large keyboard. Would  like to find a mini keyboard
> instead to save room on my Ham Shack Self.
>
> Does Elecraft have a list of compatible Keyboards?
>
> Logitec, Microsoft? etc.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> --
> Irwin KD3TB
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Re: [Elecraft] Mobile Radio Dreams & the KX2

2016-12-16 Thread Bill Steffey NY9H

having used a 706 for YEARS in my VW...
i tried the kx3 mounting it in the lower console down by the 
handbrake, BETWEEN THE SEATS where the 706 head was.
The KX3 with the mic/pwr/ctl lines out the left and the BNC out the 
right, doesn't fit ..too wide. However the KX2 fits even with that BNC .
I had considered taking off the KX3 BNC and putting an sma on the 
left side with the other required connections, with that teflon version of 174.
Enter the KX2, I made a small tray with the 3d printer. So the kx2 
can snap in/out.  The rear / bottom of the mount has a large cutout 
for the audio to get out.
And the 'mount' to the car also has a audio funnel. The KX2 seems to 
be much louder than the KX3...  I do not even need an external 
speakerand my vw sportwagen is loud inside ( road noise))  I 
slide the kxpa100 under my front seat, where it can be removed easily,


only issue i have , system on power up keeps reverting back to amp off...

This week   was working a guy on 80,  I checked and the amp was on
only to discover MUCH LATER   the power was set to 5 wattsI wish 
it would retain amp on and the power. maybe something I am doing wrong...
eventually i'll get some good pictures  KX2 W/ AMP GETS MY MOBILE VOTE 


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Re: [Elecraft] Small Keyboard Recommendation for P3/SVGA

2016-12-16 Thread Irwin Darack
Do not want wireless. I will be plugging the Keyboard into the USB Keyboard
on the back of the P3/SVGA .

Irwin KD3TB

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Ed K1EP  wrote:

> Will it work with a wireless keyboard?
>
> On Dec 16, 2016 1:47 PM, "Irwin Darack"  wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a small keyboard recommendation for the P3/SVGA. I
>> already
>> have it working  with a large keyboard. Would  like to find a mini
>> keyboard
>> instead to save room on my Ham Shack Self.
>>
>> Does Elecraft have a list of compatible Keyboards?
>>
>> Logitec, Microsoft? etc.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> --
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[Elecraft] [Kx3] Feature request: AUTO INF:RIG CTRL

2016-12-16 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello,

When turning on the
Auto inf: Rig Ctrl
Could a switch be implemented so that the audio output is not muted.

I use the Kx3 to controll the Kx2 and would like to hear both Kxs on
different antennas.

Thanks for considering
73 de
Hajo dl1sdz

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Cela est bien dit, ...,mais il faut cultiver notre jardin.
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Re: [Elecraft] Macros that need to be executed twice

2016-12-16 Thread tomb18
HiFor your information..there are various reasons a macro needs to be sent 
twice to be effective. One is that radios appear to be "deaf" after a band 
change when in fact the band has not yet actually been changed.  This can 
effect more than just a macro. For example the WSJT-X application will change 
bands when you select a different one than you are currently using and it will 
immediately follow this command with a command to read the frequency.  In all 
cases it shows the previous frequency but instead of waiting, it issues a mode 
change to data-a anyways with the result that the mode ends up being incorrect. 
There are other cases where macros that change something in a menu can take 
quite some time to actually execute with the result that subsequent commands 
make it do the wrong thing. The best way around some these issues would be if 
Elecraft would add a delay command to their API that would not be ignored. But 
the best solution is for software such as the Elecraft utilities or other third 
party software to have a built in delay command that would slow down delivery 
of a multi command macros. 100 to 1000ms would be enough.That being said there 
are one or two commands that always need to be repeated no matter what the 
delay.73 Tom www.va2fsq.com



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: "Cady, Fred"  Date: 
2016-12-16  11:05 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: Vic DiCiccio 
 Subject: [Elecraft] Macros that need to be executed twice 
Some folks have observed that sometimes a macro need to be executed twice in 
order for it to reach the desired end state.  VE3YT and I have a theory on what 
may be causing that and would like some test cases.  So if you have a macro 
that doesn't seem to work reliably or needs to be run twice, could you please 
send it along to me.

We'll let you know what we find out.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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Re: [Elecraft] Macros that need to be executed twice

2016-12-16 Thread K5MWR via Elecraft
Here is one example that includes both K3 and P3 commands to set up for 
JT-65 on 40M.


BN03;FA7076000;MD6;DT0;PC030;BW0400;FT0;SB0;#MKA1;#MFA+7077000;#MKB1;#MFB+7078000;#SPN50;#CTF+7077750;


On 12/16/2016 10:05 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:

Some folks have observed that sometimes a macro need to be executed twice in 
order for it to reach the desired end state.  VE3YT and I have a theory on what 
may be causing that and would like some test cases.  So if you have a macro 
that doesn't seem to work reliably or needs to be run twice, could you please 
send it along to me.

We'll let you know what we find out.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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Re: [Elecraft] Macros that need to be executed twice

2016-12-16 Thread tomb18
HiThe first 4 commands are almost exactly what WSJT-X issues. The band change 
probably is not finished before all the rest of the commands come along.In 
addition, issuing of P3 commands in a macro are particularly at risk.Have you 
ever noticed that a QSy on a marker using the P3 buttons didn't work the first 
time? I'm not sure this still happens but there was a bug in the P3 / K3 
command chain that corrupted some data. I believe it's been fixed but if not 
that may be a reason. Some of these problems do not show up if the program in 
use has a dedicated control of the radio. But the developers should not assume 
this today. Many people use multiple apps.It would be great if Elecraft would 
just add a DL command with a millisecond parameter to all their utilities.  
Many problems would be solved.73 Tom www.va2fsq.com 


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: K5MWR via Elecraft 
 Date: 2016-12-16  2:48 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macros that need to be 
executed twice 
Here is one example that includes both K3 and P3 commands to set up for 
JT-65 on 40M.

BN03;FA7076000;MD6;DT0;PC030;BW0400;FT0;SB0;#MKA1;#MFA+7077000;#MKB1;#MFB+7078000;#SPN50;#CTF+7077750;


On 12/16/2016 10:05 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
> Some folks have observed that sometimes a macro need to be executed twice in 
> order for it to reach the desired end state.  VE3YT and I have a theory on 
> what may be causing that and would like some test cases.  So if you have a 
> macro that doesn't seem to work reliably or needs to be run twice, could you 
> please send it along to me.
>
> We'll let you know what we find out.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred KE7X
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Small Keyboard Recommendation for P3/SVGA

2016-12-16 Thread K5MWR via Elecraft

Irwin

I have found that a wireless keyboard works very well, just plug the 
wireless dongle into the P3 and then you have something you can move around.


I use a TECKNET  SKU:X315 that I found on Amazon and it works very well.

Dave K5MWR



On 12/16/2016 1:15 PM, Irwin Darack wrote:

Do not want wireless. I will be plugging the Keyboard into the USB Keyboard
on the back of the P3/SVGA .

Irwin KD3TB

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Ed K1EP  wrote:


Will it work with a wireless keyboard?

On Dec 16, 2016 1:47 PM, "Irwin Darack"  wrote:


I am looking for a small keyboard recommendation for the P3/SVGA. I
already
have it working  with a large keyboard. Would  like to find a mini
keyboard
instead to save room on my Ham Shack Self.

Does Elecraft have a list of compatible Keyboards?

Logitec, Microsoft? etc.

Thanks and regards,

--
Irwin KD3TB
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Re: [Elecraft] Small Keyboard Recommendation for P3/SVGA

2016-12-16 Thread Ed K1EP
thanks
I have a JETech wireless keyboard that I will try.  It is very thin and
compact.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 3:09 PM, K5MWR via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Irwin
>
> I have found that a wireless keyboard works very well, just plug the
> wireless dongle into the P3 and then you have something you can move around.
>
> I use a TECKNET  SKU:X315 that I found on Amazon and it works very well.
>
> Dave K5MWR
>
>
>
>
> On 12/16/2016 1:15 PM, Irwin Darack wrote:
>
>> Do not want wireless. I will be plugging the Keyboard into the USB
>> Keyboard
>> on the back of the P3/SVGA .
>>
>> Irwin KD3TB
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Ed K1EP  wrote:
>>
>> Will it work with a wireless keyboard?
>>>
>>> On Dec 16, 2016 1:47 PM, "Irwin Darack"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking for a small keyboard recommendation for the P3/SVGA. I
 already
 have it working  with a large keyboard. Would  like to find a mini
 keyboard
 instead to save room on my Ham Shack Self.

 Does Elecraft have a list of compatible Keyboards?

 Logitec, Microsoft? etc.

 Thanks and regards,

 --
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Re: [Elecraft] Small Keyboard Recommendation for P3/SVGA

2016-12-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I use an Anker A7723. Full size keys without number pad and other extra
keys, so the keyboard is 11" by 4.75". It's a 2.4 GHz wireless (not
Bluetooth) with a little unit that plugs into the P3 so no wires. 

There is a list of Elecraft recommended keyboards here (they work with the
P3 too):

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/px3_keyboard_list_A3.pdf

73, Ron AC7AC


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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ed
K1EP
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:56 AM
To: Irwin Darack
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Small Keyboard Recommendation for P3/SVGA

Will it work with a wireless keyboard?

On Dec 16, 2016 1:47 PM, "Irwin Darack"  wrote:

> I am looking for a small keyboard recommendation for the P3/SVGA. I 
> already have it working  with a large keyboard. Would  like to find a 
> mini keyboard instead to save room on my Ham Shack Self.
>
> Does Elecraft have a list of compatible Keyboards?
>
> Logitec, Microsoft? etc.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> --
> Irwin KD3TB


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2016-12-16 Thread Nr4c
Utility. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 12:50 PM, John Altman  wrote:
> 
> I just acquired a used KPA500 that has the prior owners call sign embedded
> in the start up firmware.
> 
> How do I remove this call sign and replace with my call? Utility?
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

2016-12-16 Thread Nr4c
If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:
> 
> I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in 
> and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
> contribution.
> 
> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
> each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running 
> on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
> platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
> 
> Doug -- K0DXV
> 
>> On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
>> Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
>> dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I 
>> went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
>> because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. Once 
>> the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, although 
>> sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for the utility, 
>> so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to my iMac and 
>> run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
>> 
>> Thanks for everyone’s input.
>> 
>> 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
>> 
>> 
>>> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run 
>>> it on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is 
>>> for Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
>>> mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool 
>>> chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent 
>>> fixing other problems.
>>> 
>>> I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
>>> understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required 
>>> for another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee 
>>> capital.
>>> 
>>> Here's hoping for the future, though.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> KG1GEM
>>> 
>>> PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the 
>>> list originally.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice 
>>> provides any additional 
> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in 
> and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
> contribution.
> 
> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
> each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running 
> on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
> platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
> 
> Doug -- K0DXV
> 
>> On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
>> Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
>> dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I 
>> went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
>> because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. Once 
>> the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, although 
>> sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for the utility, 
>> so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to my iMac and 
>> run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
>> 
>> Thanks for everyone’s input.
>> 
>> 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
>> 
>> 
>>> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run 
>>> it on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is 
>>> for Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
>>> mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool 
>>> chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent 
>>> fixing other problems.
>>> 
>>> I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
>>> understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required 
>>> for another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee 
>>> capital.
>>> 
>>> Here's hoping for the future, though.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> KG1GEM
>>> 
>>> PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the 
>>> list originally.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:
 I’ve been using m

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

2016-12-16 Thread Fred Jensen



73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 12/16/2016 1:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:

If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

2016-12-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bill,

I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's 
'invention'.
Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS 
platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for 
instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and 
installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes, 
it happens.


With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer 
smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:

If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:

I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra work 
involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in and 
manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
contribution.

The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running on 
a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.

Doug -- K0DXV


On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went through a 
ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of that issue. In 
both instances I had to compile from source. Once the dependencies were addressed, 
the compilation process went well, although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft 
doesn’t provide source for the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off 
the RPi and over to my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang 
it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA



On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell  
wrote:

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool chain 
and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent fixing other 
problems.

I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required for 
another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee capital.

Here's hoping for the future, though.

Tim
KG1GEM

PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the list 
originally.


On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides 
any additional

influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra work 
involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in and 
manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
contribution.

The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running on 
a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.

Doug -- K0DXV


On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went through a 
ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of that issue. In 
both instances I had to compile from source. Once the dependencies were addressed, 
the compilation process went well, although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft 
doesn’t provide source for the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off 
the RPi and over to my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang 
it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA



On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell  
wrote:

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool chain 
and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent fixing other 
problems.

I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required for 
another platform. And a small

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

2016-12-16 Thread Fred Jensen
Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the 
participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine 
Elecraft tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems 
reported from multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.


I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my 
radio."  The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the 
things I can configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does 
nothing unless I tell it to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Sparks NV DM09dn

- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
- www.cqp.org

On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bill,

I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
'invention'.
Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
it happens.

With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.

73,
Don W3FPR


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[Elecraft] KXV3B Question

2016-12-16 Thread Jim Rogers
I have been experiencing instability in drive to my K144XV/XV1/Beko 
HLV-1000.  I may have traced it down to the K3s' KXV3B board by creating 
another transverter, XV2, with the same setup as XV1. I  monitored the 
output of XVTR OUT with an RF power meter and 50 dummy load. I did 
observe a couple of occurrences of low power output that gradually came 
back to requested power during an 8 minute test running WSTJx's MSK144. 
The indication on the Beko watt meter is much more drastic of course.


If you have a similar issue, I would appreciate an email and what you 
might have done to correct it. My intent is to re-seat the KXV3B board 
and if that fails, then possibly replace it.


73s JIm, W4ATK

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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3B Question

2016-12-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jim,

I cannot speak to your conclusions about your change from XV1 to XV2.
What I can say is that your indication of a slow power increase in the 
output is usually a result of too little audio input to the K3(S).


If you do not have audio sufficient to drive the K3 to 4 bars on the ALC 
meter with the 5th bar flickering, power 'creep' as you have indicated 
is a common result.  The onset of ALC is indicated by the 5th bar on the 
meter, so 4 bars solid is still the "no ALC" point.


The K3(S) does not respond as most other transceivers for power control. 
 Ignore the internet advice to control the power with the audio level. 
Drive the audio level as I have described and control the power with the 
power knob on the K3.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2016 6:16 PM, Jim Rogers wrote:

I have been experiencing instability in drive to my K144XV/XV1/Beko
HLV-1000.  I may have traced it down to the K3s' KXV3B board by creating
another transverter, XV2, with the same setup as XV1. I  monitored the
output of XVTR OUT with an RF power meter and 50 dummy load. I did
observe a couple of occurrences of low power output that gradually came
back to requested power during an 8 minute test running WSTJx's MSK144.
The indication on the Beko watt meter is much more drastic of course.

If you have a similar issue, I would appreciate an email and what you
might have done to correct it. My intent is to re-seat the KXV3B board
and if that fails, then possibly replace it.


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Re: [Elecraft] Small Keyboard Recommendation for P3/SVGA

2016-12-16 Thread Nr4c
Think Wireless not Bluetooth. Different. The wireless transceiver will plug 
into the P3. Some work, some don't. 

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> On Dec 16, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Irwin Darack  wrote:
> 
> Do not want wireless. I will be plugging the Keyboard into the USB Keyboard
> on the back of the P3/SVGA .
> 
> Irwin KD3TB
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Ed K1EP  wrote:
>> 
>> Will it work with a wireless keyboard?
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2016 1:47 PM, "Irwin Darack"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a small keyboard recommendation for the P3/SVGA. I
>>> already
>>> have it working  with a large keyboard. Would  like to find a mini
>>> keyboard
>>> instead to save room on my Ham Shack Self.
>>> 
>>> Does Elecraft have a list of compatible Keyboards?
>>> 
>>> Logitec, Microsoft? etc.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

2016-12-16 Thread Niel Skousen
On the other hand,  if one of us (well, not me - not technically qualified) 
were to contact Elecraft and volunteer ( in the OpenSource mindset) to execute 
the appropriate agreements for access to the code line.  Then to be the 
maintainer of the ARM distribution, with a focus on the RPi family, Elecraft 
might well agree to support the distribution.  That would satisfy the company 
protection of product line integrity, and given a knowledgeable package 
maintainer, a confidence in the finished product.

Niel


On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the 
> participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine Elecraft 
> tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems reported from 
> multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.
> 
> I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my radio."  
> The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the things I can 
> configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does nothing unless I tell it 
> to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Sparks NV DM09dn
> 
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
> - www.cqp.org
> 
> On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
>> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
>> 'invention'.
>> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
>> platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
>> instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
>> installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
>> it happens.
>> 
>> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
>> smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

2016-12-16 Thread Nr4c
Right. Duh!!!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's 
> 'invention'.
> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS platforms 
> and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for instance needing 
> Elecraft support to help them with downloading and installing the Utility 
> programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes, it happens.
> 
> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer smart" 
> and not conversant with computer lingo.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
>>> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
>>> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join 
>>> in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make 
>>> a contribution.
>>> 
>>> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable 
>>> with each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm 
>>> running on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in 
>>> mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
>>> 
>>> Doug -- K0DXV
>>> 
 On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
 Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
 dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as 
 I went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
 because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. 
 Once the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, 
 although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for 
 the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to 
 my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
 
 Thanks for everyone’s input.
 
 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
 Folsom, CA
 
 
> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>  wroteBill,
> 
> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's 
> 'invention'.
> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS platforms 
> and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for instance needing 
> Elecraft support to help them with downloading and installing the Utility 
> programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes, it happens.
> 
> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer smart" 
> and not conversant with computer lingo.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
>>> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
>>> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join 
>>> in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make 
>>> a contribution.
>>> 
>>> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable 
>>> with each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm 
>>> running on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in 
>>> mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
>>> 
>>> Doug -- K0DXV
>>> 
 On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
 Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
 dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as 
 I went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
 because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. 
 Once the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, 
 although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for 
 the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to 
 my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
 
 Thanks for everyone’s input.
 
 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
 Folsom, CA
 
 
> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>  wrote:
> 
> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to 
> run it on the ARM archite

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

2016-12-16 Thread Nr4c
Ok. I missed the big NOT. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the 
> participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine Elecraft 
> tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems reported from 
> multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.
> 
> I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my radio."  
> The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the things I can 
> configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does nothing unless I tell it 
> to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Sparks NV DM09dn
> 
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
> - www.cqp.org
> 
>> On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
>> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
>> 'invention'.
>> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
>> platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
>> instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
>> installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
>> it happens.
>> 
>> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
>> smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
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[Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-16 Thread Michael via Elecraft
If I set my K3's VFO to WWV at 5.00 MHz with AM-S onand I adjust  
"REF CAL" to a number where
my VFO's frequency readout is exact or near this number +/- maybe a Hertz  
or two. Is this an accurate way to calibrate my K3?
 
It seems to be very accurate as far as I can tell.
 
Has anyone used this method?
 
Michael 
N2ZDB
 
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[Elecraft] Bob Friess email address

2016-12-16 Thread Michael via Elecraft
Can anyone send me his email address to n2...@aol.com?
 
I have some questions on K144XV receiver distortion.
 
Thanks,
 
Michael
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[Elecraft] K3-100 Price reduction

2016-12-16 Thread William Hartman via Elecraft
The rig has the amp, the ATU, the 400hz filter, the mike and instruction book.  
All is in factory new condition, and I am pricing for quick sale at $1650.

E mail me for pix or other info you want.
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Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-16 Thread kh6u
This is exactly the method I use.
73, Doug, KH6U

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From: Michael via Elecraft
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 3:16 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

If I set my K3's VFO to WWV at 5.00 MHz with AM-S onand I adjust  
"REF CAL" to a number where
my VFO's frequency readout is exact or near this number +/- maybe a Hertz  
or two. Is this an accurate way to calibrate my K3?
 
It seems to be very accurate as far as I can tell.
 
Has anyone used this method?
 
Michael 
N2ZDB
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Michael,

I don't think that is adequate.
First of all, use the highest frequency WWV that you can receive.
Second, do not use AM-S.  That mode will synchronize with the frequency 
of the AM carrier, and may not produce a true dial frequency.


Us SSB - either LSB or LSB and tune for the tones transmitted by WWV - 
either 500 or 600 Hz.  Use of an audio spectrum analyzer such as 
Spectrogram or SpectrumLab will tell you when you have the tones 
received at the proper frequencies.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2016 8:12 PM, Michael via Elecraft wrote:

If I set my K3's VFO to WWV at 5.00 MHz with AM-S onand I adjust
"REF CAL" to a number where
my VFO's frequency readout is exact or near this number +/- maybe a Hertz
or two. Is this an accurate way to calibrate my K3?

It seems to be very accurate as far as I can tell.


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Re: [Elecraft] Bob Friess email address

2016-12-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Michael,

I would suggest that you contact Elecraft support and if they deem that 
you need to contact Bob Friess directly, they will give you the means to 
do that.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2016 8:15 PM, Michael via Elecraft wrote:

Can anyone send me his email address to n2...@aol.com?

I have some questions on K144XV receiver distortion.


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Re: [Elecraft] Bob Friess email address

2016-12-16 Thread Michael via Elecraft
Thank you Matt!
 
I just heard from Bob minutes after sending him an email
 
73's Michael
n2zdb
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-16 Thread a45wg
Very timely - just performed the operation with the help of the manual (Page 53 
on the K3-S manual) and these extra instructions.

Many thanks

Tim A45WG


> On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:52 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> I don't think that is adequate.
> First of all, use the highest frequency WWV that you can receive.
> Second, do not use AM-S.  That mode will synchronize with the frequency of 
> the AM carrier, and may not produce a true dial frequency.
> 
> Us SSB - either LSB or LSB and tune for the tones transmitted by WWV - either 
> 500 or 600 Hz.  Use of an audio spectrum analyzer such as Spectrogram or 
> SpectrumLab will tell you when you have the tones received at the proper 
> frequencies.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 12/16/2016 8:12 PM, Michael via Elecraft wrote:
>> If I set my K3's VFO to WWV at 5.00 MHz with AM-S onand I adjust
>> "REF CAL" to a number where
>> my VFO's frequency readout is exact or near this number +/- maybe a Hertz
>> or two. Is this an accurate way to calibrate my K3?
>> 
>> It seems to be very accurate as far as I can tell.
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Sync AM and checking VFO accuracy using WWV

2016-12-16 Thread Wes Stewart

My method: 
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Ref-Osc-Cal-Method-4-td2595451.html


On 12/16/2016 7:52 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Michael,

I don't think that is adequate.
First of all, use the highest frequency WWV that you can receive.
Second, do not use AM-S.  That mode will synchronize with the frequency of the 
AM carrier, and may not produce a true dial frequency.


Us SSB - either LSB or LSB and tune for the tones transmitted by WWV - either 
500 or 600 Hz.  Use of an audio spectrum analyzer such as Spectrogram or 
SpectrumLab will tell you when you have the tones received at the proper 
frequencies.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2016 8:12 PM, Michael via Elecraft wrote:

If I set my K3's VFO to WWV at 5.00 MHz with AM-S onand I adjust
"REF CAL" to a number where
my VFO's frequency readout is exact or near this number +/- maybe a Hertz
or two. Is this an accurate way to calibrate my K3?

It seems to be very accurate as far as I can tell.


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[Elecraft] K3s - 80W on 160

2016-12-16 Thread Gary Smith
I usually don't run barefoot at 100W and 
don't drive my amp with more than around 
50W. Tonight when I tried running at 100W 
on 160 I was surprised to find it only 
putting out 81W. It puts out incrementally 
till 81W and then even though I can adjust 
the power so it reads 100W on the K3s LCD 
bar and numerical display, the watt meter 
in the P3 and the LP-100A both show the 
wattage stopping at 81W.

With the ATU in or out it gives 81W out on 
160, SWR is 1.28 

All other bands except 6M give around 98W, 
6M gives 87W

Any ideas what might be causing the lower 
output on 160?

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J


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Re: [Elecraft] K3s - 80W on 160

2016-12-16 Thread Jim Brown

On Fri,12/16/2016 9:27 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

With the ATU in or out it gives 81W out on 160, SWR is 1.28

All other bands except 6M give around 98W, 6M gives 87W

Any ideas what might be causing the lower output on 160?


81W is 0.9 dB less than 100W; 87W is 0.6 dB less than 100W.  On 6M, it's 
probably a simple matter of efficiency -- power amps are slightly less 
efficient on 6M than on the lower bands.


And there may be a power calibration issue. There's a procedure in the 
manual for doing that.


Or even error in the power measurement itself. Few power meters are 
specified for better than 5%. Bird wattmeters are specified as 5% of 
full scale, and a condition of that is that the slug is in calibration. 
If, for example, you're using a 250W slug, accuracy is +/- 12.5W. I use 
an N8LP LP100A, which specifies 5% at any power level from 1W, and 
quotes 3% typical. 5% is 0.22 dB.  3% is 0.13 dB.


Low DC voltage can also be an issue, either due to the power supply 
itself or IR loss in the power cable (or even the connector(s). Use the 
built-in metering function to check DC voltage with just the RX running 
and keydown. Short, fat copper is your friend. :)


73, Jim K9YC

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