[Emc-users] This is a test, since my last several posts have been swallowed.

2008-09-24 Thread Erik Christiansen
I've tweaked my postfix configuration very slightly, and am hoping that
will allow me to post, despite sourceforge's anti-spam upgrade.

So in the unlikely event that this get's through: This is a test.
Sorry about that.

Erik

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Re: [Emc-users] This is a test, since my last several posts have been swallowed.

2008-09-24 Thread John Thornton
ok

On 24 Sep 2008 at 21:44, Erik Christiansen wrote:

 I've tweaked my postfix configuration very slightly, and am hoping
 that will allow me to post, despite sourceforge's anti-spam upgrade.
 
 So in the unlikely event that this get's through: This is a test.
 Sorry about that.
 
 Erik
 
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[Emc-users] Problem on EMC2 starting with rtai_hall.ko

2008-09-24 Thread Евгений Александрович
Hello.

I build emc2 based on PuppyRus linux.
linux was patched by kernel is 2.6.24.7
rtai test was succesfull.

Whan i make EMC2 i had problem with ipipe.h file.
I had to insert #include linux/percpu.h in ipipe.h file to build EMC2.

Now, when I try to start EMC i have problem with rtai_hal.ko file

insmod: error inserting 'usr/realtime/modules/rtai_hal.ko': -1 File exists

What could be a problem?

Thanks
Evgeny

P.S.
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Re: [Emc-users] This is a test, since my last several posts have been swallowed.

2008-09-24 Thread Jon Elson
Erik Christiansen wrote:
 I've tweaked my postfix configuration very slightly, and am hoping that
 will allow me to post, despite sourceforge's anti-spam upgrade.

   
Yeah, what are they up to?  I have already had a perfectly reasonable 
message rejected.
This was the reason for the message being rejected.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period


Maybe just a computer glitch.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Problem on EMC2 starting with rtai_hall.ko

2008-09-24 Thread Dirk


 I user VMWare machine under WinXP


I don't think a realtime OS will work in a virtual machine. I have the same
problem with EMC2 in parallels on the mac. The sim machines do work though.
You don't consider real machining this way, do you?

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Re: [Emc-users] Axis question

2008-09-24 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:25:18PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote:

 I think this is done now on the Mazak, etc. to clear the workspace for 
 tool changes.

The Mazak uses plain old TOOL_CHANGE_POSITION.

http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config_ini_config.html#sub:%5BEMCIO%5D-Section


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[Emc-users] Touch probe functionality

2008-09-24 Thread Kim Mortensen
Hi all,

Thinking of making a touchprobe, but Im missing the link between the probe 
itself and EMC controll. 

Is there a special piece of code that needs to be run to locate a corner (tell 
EMC to do the moves), or it this already know to EMC.. 

What about logging a point cloud.. is this something EMC can do..

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Re: [Emc-users] Touch probe functionality

2008-09-24 Thread Andi Frommel
hi Kim

i've just done something like that for qualifying my converted mill:

http://homepage.bluewin.ch/andyfrommel/6101.html
(sorry, it's still in german... but lots of pics)

i selected the pin on the parport, where the prober was connected to,
as the probe input and used the G38.2 command for probing.
to get the coords you can make use of ' probeopen' 

i used this code snippet to qualify the probe itself by measuring the z-coord
at the same xy pos 50 times.

(PROBEOPEN ProbeCalib.txt)
F#10
G1Z#5
O1 while [#4 lt #3]  (Schleifen-Zähler  Anzahl)
 F#11
 G1Z#6   (runter zu Anfangspunkt)
 F#12
 G38.2Z#7(runter bis Taster)
 G91 (Incremetal Mode)
 G1Z#8   (bisschen hoch)
 F#13
 G38.2Z#9(runter bis Taster)
 G90 (Absolut Mode)
 F#11
 G1Z#6
 #4=[#4+1]   (inkrement Schleifen-Zähler)
O1 endwhile
(PROBECLOSE) (Logfile schliessen)

i hope this gives you some light...
br andy


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Datum: 24.09.2008 20:56
An: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: [Emc-users] Touch probe functionality

Hi all,

Thinking of making a touchprobe, but Im missing the link between the probe 
itself and EMC controll. 

Is there a special piece of code that needs to be run to locate a corner (tell 
EMC to do the moves), or it this 
already know to EMC.. 

What about logging a point cloud.. is this something EMC can do..

Best Regards
Kim 
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch probe functionality

2008-09-24 Thread Kim Mortensen
ok thanks,

It tells me that there is some special behavior needed..

Thanks for the code, ill try ti reverseingeneer (Your comments are not much 
help (-: )

Best Regards
Kim Mortensen - Denmark.

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To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch probe functionality


hi Kim

i've just done something like that for qualifying my converted mill:

http://homepage.bluewin.ch/andyfrommel/6101.html
(sorry, it's still in german... but lots of pics)

i selected the pin on the parport, where the prober was connected to,
as the probe input and used the G38.2 command for probing.
to get the coords you can make use of ' probeopen' 

i used this code snippet to qualify the probe itself by measuring the z-coord
at the same xy pos 50 times.

(PROBEOPEN ProbeCalib.txt)
F#10
G1Z#5
O1 while [#4 lt #3]  (Schleifen-Zähler  Anzahl)
 F#11
 G1Z#6   (runter zu Anfangspunkt)
 F#12
 G38.2Z#7(runter bis Taster)
 G91 (Incremetal Mode)
 G1Z#8   (bisschen hoch)
 F#13
 G38.2Z#9(runter bis Taster)
 G90 (Absolut Mode)
 F#11
 G1Z#6
 #4=[#4+1]   (inkrement Schleifen-Zähler)
O1 endwhile
(PROBECLOSE) (Logfile schliessen)

i hope this gives you some light...
br andy


Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Datum: 24.09.2008 20:56
An: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: [Emc-users] Touch probe functionality

Hi all,

Thinking of making a touchprobe, but Im missing the link between the probe 
itself and EMC controll. 

Is there a special piece of code that needs to be run to locate a corner (tell 
EMC to do the moves), or it this 
already know to EMC.. 

What about logging a point cloud.. is this something EMC can do..

Best Regards
Kim 
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Re: [Emc-users] Problem on EMC2 starting with rtai_hall.ko

2008-09-24 Thread Alex Joni
Hi

 Hello.

 I build emc2 based on PuppyRus linux.
 linux was patched by kernel is 2.6.24.7
 rtai test was succesfull.

 Whan i make EMC2 i had problem with ipipe.h file.
 I had to insert #include linux/percpu.h in ipipe.h file to build EMC2.

 Now, when I try to start EMC i have problem with rtai_hal.ko file

 insmod: error inserting 'usr/realtime/modules/rtai_hal.ko': -1 File exists

sounds like rtai is already loaded. Either you compiled it into the kernel, 
not as a module.
Or you had a latency test still running, or the last time you had realtime 
run there was some problem during unload.
A lsmod should tell you more, and a reboot will probably cure it.

 What could be a problem?

 Thanks
 Evgeny

 P.S.
 I user VMWare machine under WinXP

I do that too sometimes without problems. (I don't expect to run any real 
machine this way..)


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Re: [Emc-users] Touch probe functionality

2008-09-24 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 09:50:57PM +0200, Kim Mortensen wrote:
 ok thanks,
 
 It tells me that there is some special behavior needed..
 
 Thanks for the code, ill try ti reverseingeneer (Your comments are not much 
 help (-: )
 
 Best Regards
 Kim Mortensen - Denmark.

Be aware that in CVS trunk there are new probing modes that let you
do more advanced things.  These will be in the not-yet released 2.3
versions, but if you want to build and run trunk you can.

http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/gcode_main.html#G38.x%20Straight%20Probe



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Re: [Emc-users] Problem on EMC2 starting with rtai_hall.ko

2008-09-24 Thread Karl Schmidt
 I don't think a realtime OS will work in a virtual machine. I have the same
 problem with EMC2 in parallels on the mac. The sim machines do work though.
 You don't consider real machining this way, do you?

 Dirk
 
 By the way I prepare EMC2 for small computer (No cooler, no HDD, small size).
 I try to make distrib on VMWare, before installing on real computer. 
 
Евгений Александрович wrote:
  I do not think then VMWare is a problem.
  Linux does not know than VMWare is not real machine.
  May be only unstable CPU resource ...

I think Dirk has it correct. Even if it would work - VM will be pulling 
interrupts in background and 
the whole reason of using a realtime kernel is to prevent interrupts.

If the machine was fast enough and the demand was low enough, it is possible 
you could get away with 
it, but for safety and sanity it pays to keep the computer controlling 
movements as simple and 
unencumbered as possible.


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Re: [Emc-users] Back on Ubuntu 8.04 + EMC2 Problems

2008-09-24 Thread paul_c
On Tuesday 23 September 2008, Alex Joni wrote:
 That is correct. 2.6.24-16-rtai is the latest available. It is usually such
 a big pain to build a working -rt version that works on as many PCs as
 possible,

Rubbish, perpeptuating the myth that compiling kernels is some black art.. 
Very few configuration options cause problems, and these are well documented. 
Patching a kernel takes less than a minute, and even after pulling a kernel 
config from an earlier version, building a kernel package takes thirty 
minutes or so (for a single flavour).

 A bash script to automate the task is only a couple of lines, maybe six if 
you are uploading to a proper Debian repository.

 that I don't really consider building new versions unless there 
 are really serious updates/problems.

In the last couple of weeks there have been, what, three reports ?

 If there is someone out there who wants to contribute by doing this job,
 then we'll be happy to hear so. 

Four i386 flavours along with associated header and support packages, 30 
seconds to trigger the build script. A couple of hours of CPU time, job done.



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Re: [Emc-users] Arduino with Ubuntu 8.04

2008-09-24 Thread Steve Hobbs
The final piece of the jigsaw, in case anyone has similar problems.

The Arduino IDE wouldn't talk to the Arduino board because
serial.debug_rate in ~/.arduino/preferences.txt was set to 14400, a
value not supported by the port (something to do with the ftdi_sio
driver?).

Setting this value to 9600 cured my final problem.

The relevant thread on the Arduino forum is:
http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1222121634


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[Emc-users] sherline 4400 cnc config for large pen type objects

2008-09-24 Thread l.collier hyams
I'm a new emc user and have yet to develop a good technique or system for 
machining objects that best resemble oversized writing pens. I teach digital 
art, animation, music and sculpture and know my way around unix, irix, linux, 
all the win os and all of the mac os. I'm thinking of doing much of the design 
work in Google Sketch or even BobCad and have looked at a number of other 
packages. The starting points may be obvious for the group, but it's pretty new 
on my end. Any pointers?

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Re: [Emc-users] sherline 4400 cnc config for large pen type objects

2008-09-24 Thread John Kasunich
l.collier hyams wrote:
 I'm a new emc user and have yet to develop a good technique or system for 
 machining objects
 that best resemble oversized writing pens. I teach digital art, animation, 
 music and
 sculpture and know my way around unix, irix, linux, all the win os and all of 
 the mac os.
 I'm thinking of doing much of the design work in Google Sketch or even BobCad 
 and have
 looked at a number of other packages. The starting points may be obvious for 
 the group
, but it's pretty new on my end. Any pointers?


I'm not entirely clear on what kind of info you are looking for.  It
sounds like you have quite a few ideas already on the software and
design side.  Are you looking for machining information, things like
workholding, tooling, etc?

Regards,

John Kasunich





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Re: [Emc-users] sherline 4400 cnc config for large pen type objects

2008-09-24 Thread Glenn R. Edwards
Here's a website of similar vein which might have some pointers for you...
http://www.computersculpture.com/ 

Glenn 

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Subject: [Emc-users] sherline 4400 cnc config for large pen type objects

I'm a new emc user and have yet to develop a good technique or system for
machining objects that best resemble oversized writing pens. I teach digital
art, animation, music and sculpture and know my way around unix, irix,
linux, all the win os and all of the mac os. I'm thinking of doing much of
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