[Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. My lathe can go to 2000 RPM maximum but after fitting a VFD it might go higher. Not that I know how to use it at those speeds anyway. -- Regards /Groete Marius D. Liebenberg +27 82 698 3251 +27 12 743 6064 QQ 1767394877 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
On 15 July 2014 10:44, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. 1:1 is the right ratio, if you want to use the index from the encoder. The encoder on the 7i76 can do 10Mhz according to the manual, so that should be OK to 292,000 rpm. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] integrator manual
Aram, Big Picture: home switch connect home pin IM detail much problem cause try Mach agenda none On 7/14/2014 4:36 PM, a k wrote: want to address to those who put together --integrator manual--I M i search in it for home homing - and I M provides only separate blocks and never show main plan - skeleton to where need to add those building blocks. I M does not shows any working sample - like for homing -- as an example from previous model --emc2-- 2.2.5 maybe one will say that will be OK and copy/past and problem solved. problem solved was not on agenda it is web based manual no paper will be wasted – many publisher afraid that. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
On 2014-07-15 14:00, andy pugh wrote: On 15 July 2014 10:44, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. 1:1 is the right ratio, if you want to use the index from the encoder. The encoder on the 7i76 can do 10Mhz according to the manual, so that should be OK to 292,000 rpm. OK so speed is not the problem. I will have to concoct another method to mount the encoder if it is better to have it 1:1 How do others do that on a lathe seeing that you cannot mount the encoder on the back of the shaft. The shaft is hollow for material to pass through. -- Regards /Groete Marius D. Liebenberg +27 82 698 3251 +27 12 743 6064 QQ 1767394877 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
same idea.. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG sam On 7/15/2014 9:19 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 07/15/2014 06:44 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: On 2014-07-15 14:00, andy pugh wrote: On 15 July 2014 10:44, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. 1:1 is the right ratio, if you want to use the index from the encoder. The encoder on the 7i76 can do 10Mhz according to the manual, so that should be OK to 292,000 rpm. OK so speed is not the problem. I will have to concoct another method to mount the encoder if it is better to have it 1:1 How do others do that on a lathe seeing that you cannot mount the encoder on the back of the shaft. The shaft is hollow for material to pass through. http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00010-1a.jpg http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00011-1a.jpg http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] integrator manual
I M does not shows any working sample Here's how I did it for my little Sherline mill... Modify the Sherline control box to accept the wiring. This is an example for the tool length probe line, but the same thing happened for the home switch input: http://softsolder.com/2010/04/11/sherline-tool-length-probe-adding-a-jack/ Connect the physical home switches to the parallel port pin and define the HAL wiring that connects the input pin to the homing signals: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/11/sherline-cnc-mill-adding-home-switches/ Define the homing parameters that control the motion on all three axes: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/12/sherline-cnc-mill-defining-home-switches/ That configuration worked back in the 2.4 days and has continued to work fine ever since, so it should get you reasonably close to your goal. Hope that helps ... -- Ed softsolder.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
Common on older large CNC lathes is a timing belt pulley that has a bore sufficient to slide over the hollow spindle.. then a 1:1 ratio to another large pulley that is mounted to an encoder. Dave On 7/15/2014 9:44 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: On 2014-07-15 14:00, andy pugh wrote: On 15 July 2014 10:44, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. 1:1 is the right ratio, if you want to use the index from the encoder. The encoder on the 7i76 can do 10Mhz according to the manual, so that should be OK to 292,000 rpm. OK so speed is not the problem. I will have to concoct another method to mount the encoder if it is better to have it 1:1 How do others do that on a lathe seeing that you cannot mount the encoder on the back of the shaft. The shaft is hollow for material to pass through. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
One more: http://members.shaw.ca/SWSTUFF/spindle-encoder.html http://members.shaw.ca/SWSTUFF/index.htm On 07/15/2014 07:19 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 07/15/2014 06:44 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: On 2014-07-15 14:00, andy pugh wrote: On 15 July 2014 10:44, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. 1:1 is the right ratio, if you want to use the index from the encoder. The encoder on the 7i76 can do 10Mhz according to the manual, so that should be OK to 292,000 rpm. OK so speed is not the problem. I will have to concoct another method to mount the encoder if it is better to have it 1:1 How do others do that on a lathe seeing that you cannot mount the encoder on the back of the shaft. The shaft is hollow for material to pass through. http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00010-1a.jpg http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00011-1a.jpg http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/ -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] integrator manual
On Tuesday 15 July 2014 10:03:52 Ed Nisley did opine And Gene did reply: I M does not shows any working sample Here's how I did it for my little Sherline mill... Modify the Sherline control box to accept the wiring. This is an example for the tool length probe line, but the same thing happened for the home switch input: http://softsolder.com/2010/04/11/sherline-tool-length-probe-adding-a-ja ck/ Connect the physical home switches to the parallel port pin and define the HAL wiring that connects the input pin to the homing signals: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/11/sherline-cnc-mill-adding-home-switches / Define the homing parameters that control the motion on all three axes: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/12/sherline-cnc-mill-defining-home-switch es/ That configuration worked back in the 2.4 days and has continued to work fine ever since, so it should get you reasonably close to your goal. Hope that helps ... It gets more complex than that Ed, he is using Mesa cards where the GPIO port pin number isn't generally the number you use in the hal file for a parport number. I needed a spindle run/brake signal on the db25's pin 17, but had to consult the dmesg output to determine the actual address of that pin for a 5i25 interface card. He is using a 5i20 + 2 daughter cards I know nothing about. I am still configuring things as I'm just now bringing it (the 5i25) to life. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
On Tuesday 15 July 2014 10:49:39 Kirk Wallace did opine And Gene did reply: One more: http://members.shaw.ca/SWSTUFF/spindle-encoder.html http://members.shaw.ca/SWSTUFF/index.htm This is the GCode I started out with for my version. On 07/15/2014 07:19 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 07/15/2014 06:44 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: On 2014-07-15 14:00, andy pugh wrote: On 15 July 2014 10:44, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. 1:1 is the right ratio, if you want to use the index from the encoder. The encoder on the 7i76 can do 10Mhz according to the manual, so that should be OK to 292,000 rpm. OK so speed is not the problem. I will have to concoct another method to mount the encoder if it is better to have it 1:1 How do others do that on a lathe seeing that you cannot mount the encoder on the back of the shaft. The shaft is hollow for material to pass through. http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00010-1a.jpg http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00011-1a.jpg http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/ Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
That is very similar to the emco lathes... (they have a 100 line single channel + index.) Works very well through the printer port. sam On 7/15/2014 9:49 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: One more: http://members.shaw.ca/SWSTUFF/spindle-encoder.html http://members.shaw.ca/SWSTUFF/index.htm On 07/15/2014 07:19 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 07/15/2014 06:44 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: On 2014-07-15 14:00, andy pugh wrote: On 15 July 2014 10:44, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. 1:1 is the right ratio, if you want to use the index from the encoder. The encoder on the 7i76 can do 10Mhz according to the manual, so that should be OK to 292,000 rpm. OK so speed is not the problem. I will have to concoct another method to mount the encoder if it is better to have it 1:1 How do others do that on a lathe seeing that you cannot mount the encoder on the back of the shaft. The shaft is hollow for material to pass through. http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00010-1a.jpg http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00011-1a.jpg http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
On 2014-07-15 16:19, Dave Cole wrote: Common on older large CNC lathes is a timing belt pulley that has a bore sufficient to slide over the hollow spindle.. then a 1:1 ratio to another large pulley that is mounted to an encoder. Exactly what I will have to do. Dave On 7/15/2014 9:44 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: On 2014-07-15 14:00, andy pugh wrote: On 15 July 2014 10:44, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. 1:1 is the right ratio, if you want to use the index from the encoder. The encoder on the 7i76 can do 10Mhz according to the manual, so that should be OK to 292,000 rpm. OK so speed is not the problem. I will have to concoct another method to mount the encoder if it is better to have it 1:1 How do others do that on a lathe seeing that you cannot mount the encoder on the back of the shaft. The shaft is hollow for material to pass through. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Regards /Groete Marius D. Liebenberg +27 82 698 3251 +27 12 743 6064 QQ 1767394877 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
Clever idea fitting the pulley over the nut. On 2014-07-15 16:27, sam sokolik wrote: same idea.. http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindleencoder.JPG http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/spindle/spindletiminggear.JPG sam On 7/15/2014 9:19 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 07/15/2014 06:44 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: On 2014-07-15 14:00, andy pugh wrote: On 15 July 2014 10:44, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. 1:1 is the right ratio, if you want to use the index from the encoder. The encoder on the 7i76 can do 10Mhz according to the manual, so that should be OK to 292,000 rpm. OK so speed is not the problem. I will have to concoct another method to mount the encoder if it is better to have it 1:1 How do others do that on a lathe seeing that you cannot mount the encoder on the back of the shaft. The shaft is hollow for material to pass through. http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00010-1a.jpg http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00011-1a.jpg http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Regards /Groete Marius D. Liebenberg +27 82 698 3251 +27 12 743 6064 QQ 1767394877 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
I have some spare encoders already. As I said, I want to use what is on the shelf already. To save a bit if cash seeing that I have to replace the spindle motor that burned out after one hour of working (testing light cuts). I had to replace it anyway with a VFD and new motor. On 2014-07-15 16:39, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2014 09:44:32 Marius Liebenberg did opine And Gene did reply: On 2014-07-15 14:00, andy pugh wrote: On 15 July 2014 10:44, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: What would the highest safe RPM be for a 2048 quadrature spindle encoder on the 7i76. I have to use some pulleys to mount the encoder on my spindle and I would like to use what I have on the shelf if possible. 1:1 is the right ratio, if you want to use the index from the encoder. The encoder on the 7i76 can do 10Mhz according to the manual, so that should be OK to 292,000 rpm. OK so speed is not the problem. I will have to concoct another method to mount the encoder if it is better to have it 1:1 How do others do that on a lathe seeing that you cannot mount the encoder on the back of the shaft. The shaft is hollow for material to pass through. I did put it there on mine, Marius, but made the encoder. The 7x12 doesn't have a lot of room for a disk so the diameter is limited to about 2.75, but I made a 50 slot disk on my tightened up, ball screws X,Y now, mill with the slot cuts as the outside circle, with one slot cut another .099 longer on the inside of the circle for an index pulse. It just clears the casting boss that the cover bolt screws into at the top/rear of the cover. I made in eagle, a pcb to mount 3 of the honeywell HOA2001 series opto interrupters that have active, schmidt triggered outputs, all in a row, mounted across the top of the disk so that the center opto, setting inline, actually sees only the long slot and the curvature of the slots lets the outside two optos see only the slots. The disk itself is held between the spindle bearing adjuster nut, and its locknut. I have made several of them, with the latest and best being made from .015 thick alu sheet that formerly lived in a dishwasher door to allow changing its color to match the other appliances. Used a 1/32 end mill. The sacrificial board under the sheet MUST be flat. Because its thinner than the nut threads, I put a dial on it and tapped it with the back nut only snug to remove radial eccentricity as best I could, then gave the locknut one last tap to tighten. I did have to file the back face of the adjuster nut to remove most of the disks axial wobble, those nuts have pretty trashy faces. The disk obviously has a large central opening to clear the OD of the rear of the spindle. The pcb did wind up having some tiny pots added so as to be able to adjust the brightness of the opto's led's as a method to fine tune the A/B duty cycles to 50%. I can round up the latest incarnation of the disk carving code, and either carve the pcb or make the eagle files available if you'd like. Getting a board house to do it and give you plated thru holes would be handier than bottled beer though. The pcb is double-sided, and without the plated thru holes and that makes soldering in the parts a bit difficult. With a bit more room it would be better with 3 individual mounts though, much more leeway to adjust for perfect quadrature timings that way. Gross adjustments in the timing could be done by changing the number of slots of course, I started with 39, but then found the next closest at 50 slots actually gave better timing. The Gcode for the disk can easily be massaged for a larger disk if you have room after the change gears are removed as you won't need those anymore. I started out with code that made about a 7 disk that I found on the net and modified it to suit. Its maybe 125 lines of gcode. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Regards /Groete Marius D. Liebenberg +27 82 698 3251 +27 12 743 6064 QQ 1767394877 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] edge module problem
Greetings everybody; In this new configuration to use a 5i25 in place of the parport, I have now set the edge.N.out-width-ns to 5000 in hopes I could see the pulse with a halmeter. They are, all 3 of them addf'd to the 30 u-sec base-thread, but I have tried the servo-thread with the same results. The inputs are changing state according to the axis spindle direction buttons. This signal is motion.spindle reverse But the outputs, both normal and inverted, never change state. Its exactly as if they have not been addf'd. Without this logic, I have no spindle. Has anyone ever seen this? I'm fresh out of clues (again). Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Spindle encoder on 7i76
On Tuesday 15 July 2014 12:12:38 Marius Liebenberg did opine And Gene did reply below: I have some spare encoders already. As I said, I want to use what is on the shelf already. To save a bit if cash seeing that I have to replace the spindle motor that burned out after one hour of working (testing light cuts). I had to replace it anyway with a VFD and new motor. I didn't have anything on the shelf, so all I was out was a few busted 1/32 mills and time. Other than buying a brass door kickplate, which turned out to be quite hard on mills, everything else was found material. I'm pretty cheap, and time (until I fall over the final time) is what I have plenty of, being retired. And it works very well. No worries about a drive belt jumping a cog in the middle of a G33.1 operation thats doing it in a half turn per cycle peck loop. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] edge module problem
On 15 July 2014 17:47, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: In this new configuration to use a 5i25 in place of the parport, I have now set the edge.N.out-width-ns to 5000 in hopes I could see the pulse with a halmeter. 50mS is still not very long for Halmeter. Have you tried Halscope? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] edge module problem
Hi Gene! On 15.07.2014 18:47, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings everybody; In this new configuration to use a 5i25 in place of the parport, I have now set the edge.N.out-width-ns to 5000 in hopes I could see the pulse with a halmeter. [...] 5000ns are 50ms, depending on the update rate of the halmeter (user component) and your screen, this can easily be missed. Rather try something like 5 (0.5s) or even more. No more than 2s, though, as this would overflow the s32. You could then also watch the time-left-ns output, which should give you a decreasing counter. Or, as suggested by andy, use the halscope. Cheers, Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] edge module problem
On Tuesday 15 July 2014 13:05:36 andy pugh did opine And Gene did reply: On 15 July 2014 17:47, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: In this new configuration to use a 5i25 in place of the parport, I have now set the edge.N.out-width-ns to 5000 in hopes I could see the pulse with a halmeter. 50mS is still not very long for Halmeter. Have you tried Halscope? Humm, running the all software config that works, I can see it flicker by at 5ms pretty reliably. This isn't working at all, but just for SG I'll add a couple more 00's to that, making it 5 seconds. BRB. You're right, now I can see it. But 50ms, with its position in the addf sequence should be enough since I am running the servo loop at 2000hz. So back to the troubleshooting. Thanks Andy. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] edge module problem
On Tuesday 15 July 2014 13:09:06 Philipp Burch did opine And Gene did reply: Hi Gene! On 15.07.2014 18:47, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings everybody; In this new configuration to use a 5i25 in place of the parport, I have now set the edge.N.out-width-ns to 5000 in hopes I could see the pulse with a halmeter. [...] 5000ns are 50ms, depending on the update rate of the halmeter (user component) and your screen, this can easily be missed. Rather try something like 5 (0.5s) or even more. No more than 2s, though, as this would overflow the s32. Hum, I thought what I saw was less than 5 secs, 3 maybe at the most. I'll go back to 2 secs to continue traipsing thru all this code. You could then also watch the time-left-ns output, which should give you a decreasing counter. Or, as suggested by andy, use the halscope. Cheers, Philipp Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] integrator manual
about code from hal net home-switch = hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.gpio.025.in_not net home-switch = axis.0.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.1.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.2.home-sw-in / interesting explanation about pin connection each of the three axes have their own home switch. All # home switches are connected to GPIO 25, though hostmot2 boards generally # have enough GPIO pins to put each axis' home switch on its own pin. how it can work All home switches are connected to GPIO 25??? On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2014 10:03:52 Ed Nisley did opine And Gene did reply: I M does not shows any working sample Here's how I did it for my little Sherline mill... Modify the Sherline control box to accept the wiring. This is an example for the tool length probe line, but the same thing happened for the home switch input: http://softsolder.com/2010/04/11/sherline-tool-length-probe-adding-a-ja ck/ Connect the physical home switches to the parallel port pin and define the HAL wiring that connects the input pin to the homing signals: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/11/sherline-cnc-mill-adding-home-switches / Define the homing parameters that control the motion on all three axes: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/12/sherline-cnc-mill-defining-home-switch es/ That configuration worked back in the 2.4 days and has continued to work fine ever since, so it should get you reasonably close to your goal. Hope that helps ... It gets more complex than that Ed, he is using Mesa cards where the GPIO port pin number isn't generally the number you use in the hal file for a parport number. I needed a spindle run/brake signal on the db25's pin 17, but had to consult the dmesg output to determine the actual address of that pin for a 5i25 interface card. He is using a 5i20 + 2 daughter cards I know nothing about. I am still configuring things as I'm just now bringing it (the 5i25) to life. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] integrator manual
Hi Aram! On 15.07.2014 21:38, a k wrote: about code from hal net home-switch = hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.gpio.025.in_not net home-switch = axis.0.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.1.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.2.home-sw-in / interesting explanation about pin connection each of the three axes have their own home switch. All # home switches are connected to GPIO 25, though hostmot2 boards generally # have enough GPIO pins to put each axis' home switch on its own pin. how it can work All home switches are connected to GPIO 25??? Yeah, why not? As long as the joints (aka axes) are homed one after the other, this is no problem. You won't be able to home multiple joints at once with this configuration, though. Check the ini parameter HOME_SEQUENCE. Regards, Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] integrator manual
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/config/ini_homing.html#_home_is_shared On 7/15/2014 2:38 PM, a k wrote: about code from hal net home-switch = hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.gpio.025.in_not net home-switch = axis.0.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.1.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.2.home-sw-in / interesting explanation about pin connection each of the three axes have their own home switch. All # home switches are connected to GPIO 25, though hostmot2 boards generally # have enough GPIO pins to put each axis' home switch on its own pin. how it can work All home switches are connected to GPIO 25??? On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2014 10:03:52 Ed Nisley did opine And Gene did reply: I M does not shows any working sample Here's how I did it for my little Sherline mill... Modify the Sherline control box to accept the wiring. This is an example for the tool length probe line, but the same thing happened for the home switch input: http://softsolder.com/2010/04/11/sherline-tool-length-probe-adding-a-ja ck/ Connect the physical home switches to the parallel port pin and define the HAL wiring that connects the input pin to the homing signals: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/11/sherline-cnc-mill-adding-home-switches / Define the homing parameters that control the motion on all three axes: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/12/sherline-cnc-mill-defining-home-switch es/ That configuration worked back in the 2.4 days and has continued to work fine ever since, so it should get you reasonably close to your goal. Hope that helps ... It gets more complex than that Ed, he is using Mesa cards where the GPIO port pin number isn't generally the number you use in the hal file for a parport number. I needed a spindle run/brake signal on the db25's pin 17, but had to consult the dmesg output to determine the actual address of that pin for a 5i25 interface card. He is using a 5i20 + 2 daughter cards I know nothing about. I am still configuring things as I'm just now bringing it (the 5i25) to life. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] integrator manual
On Tuesday 15 July 2014 15:38:42 a k did opine And Gene did reply: about code from hal net home-switch = hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.gpio.025.in_not net home-switch = axis.0.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.1.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.2.home-sw-in / interesting explanation about pin connection each of the three axes have their own home switch. All # home switches are connected to GPIO 25, though hostmot2 boards generally # have enough GPIO pins to put each axis' home switch on its own pin. how it can work All home switches are connected to GPIO 25??? Either all switches are wired n.c. and in series, or all wired n.o. and in parallel. lcnc contains logic that will not move anything if any of the switches is already tripped when you hit ctrl+home. You must have the statement in the .ini file for each axis HOME_IS_SHARED = true, and HOME_SEQUENCE 0|1|2|3 (one of each sets the homing sequence starting with 0) which brings that logic into play. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2014 10:03:52 Ed Nisley did opine And Gene did reply: I M does not shows any working sample Here's how I did it for my little Sherline mill... Modify the Sherline control box to accept the wiring. This is an example for the tool length probe line, but the same thing happened for the home switch input: http://softsolder.com/2010/04/11/sherline-tool-length-probe-adding- a-ja ck/ Connect the physical home switches to the parallel port pin and define the HAL wiring that connects the input pin to the homing signals: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/11/sherline-cnc-mill-adding-home-swit ches / Define the homing parameters that control the motion on all three axes: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/12/sherline-cnc-mill-defining-home-sw itch es/ That configuration worked back in the 2.4 days and has continued to work fine ever since, so it should get you reasonably close to your goal. Hope that helps ... It gets more complex than that Ed, he is using Mesa cards where the GPIO port pin number isn't generally the number you use in the hal file for a parport number. I needed a spindle run/brake signal on the db25's pin 17, but had to consult the dmesg output to determine the actual address of that pin for a 5i25 interface card. He is using a 5i20 + 2 daughter cards I know nothing about. I am still configuring things as I'm just now bringing it (the 5i25) to life. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS - - Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- --- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] integrator manual
about 3.9. HOME_SEQUENCE the single way - wiring to one pin can be done if there will be enforced sequence --- first home X, second home Y and third home Z. To guaranty that one axis at the any given moment can be homed if so than how do that? option only 0 and 1 how to mark each axis - there are 3 or more axis ? On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:26 PM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/config/ini_homing.html#_home_is_shared On 7/15/2014 2:38 PM, a k wrote: about code from hal net home-switch = hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.gpio.025.in_not net home-switch = axis.0.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.1.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.2.home-sw-in / interesting explanation about pin connection each of the three axes have their own home switch. All # home switches are connected to GPIO 25, though hostmot2 boards generally # have enough GPIO pins to put each axis' home switch on its own pin. how it can work All home switches are connected to GPIO 25??? On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2014 10:03:52 Ed Nisley did opine And Gene did reply: I M does not shows any working sample Here's how I did it for my little Sherline mill... Modify the Sherline control box to accept the wiring. This is an example for the tool length probe line, but the same thing happened for the home switch input: http://softsolder.com/2010/04/11/sherline-tool-length-probe-adding-a-ja ck/ Connect the physical home switches to the parallel port pin and define the HAL wiring that connects the input pin to the homing signals: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/11/sherline-cnc-mill-adding-home-switches / Define the homing parameters that control the motion on all three axes: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/12/sherline-cnc-mill-defining-home-switch es/ That configuration worked back in the 2.4 days and has continued to work fine ever since, so it should get you reasonably close to your goal. Hope that helps ... It gets more complex than that Ed, he is using Mesa cards where the GPIO port pin number isn't generally the number you use in the hal file for a parport number. I needed a spindle run/brake signal on the db25's pin 17, but had to consult the dmesg output to determine the actual address of that pin for a 5i25 interface card. He is using a 5i20 + 2 daughter cards I know nothing about. I am still configuring things as I'm just now bringing it (the 5i25) to life. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing
Re: [Emc-users] integrator manual
to be sure --HOME_SEQUENCE 0|1|2|3 0|1|2|3- this set sequence for axis? like 0-x first, 1-y second etc? On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2014 15:38:42 a k did opine And Gene did reply: about code from hal net home-switch = hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.gpio.025.in_not net home-switch = axis.0.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.1.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.2.home-sw-in / interesting explanation about pin connection each of the three axes have their own home switch. All # home switches are connected to GPIO 25, though hostmot2 boards generally # have enough GPIO pins to put each axis' home switch on its own pin. how it can work All home switches are connected to GPIO 25??? Either all switches are wired n.c. and in series, or all wired n.o. and in parallel. lcnc contains logic that will not move anything if any of the switches is already tripped when you hit ctrl+home. You must have the statement in the .ini file for each axis HOME_IS_SHARED = true, and HOME_SEQUENCE 0|1|2|3 (one of each sets the homing sequence starting with 0) which brings that logic into play. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2014 10:03:52 Ed Nisley did opine And Gene did reply: I M does not shows any working sample Here's how I did it for my little Sherline mill... Modify the Sherline control box to accept the wiring. This is an example for the tool length probe line, but the same thing happened for the home switch input: http://softsolder.com/2010/04/11/sherline-tool-length-probe-adding- a-ja ck/ Connect the physical home switches to the parallel port pin and define the HAL wiring that connects the input pin to the homing signals: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/11/sherline-cnc-mill-adding-home-swit ches / Define the homing parameters that control the motion on all three axes: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/12/sherline-cnc-mill-defining-home-sw itch es/ That configuration worked back in the 2.4 days and has continued to work fine ever since, so it should get you reasonably close to your goal. Hope that helps ... It gets more complex than that Ed, he is using Mesa cards where the GPIO port pin number isn't generally the number you use in the hal file for a parport number. I needed a spindle run/brake signal on the db25's pin 17, but had to consult the dmesg output to determine the actual address of that pin for a 5i25 interface card. He is using a 5i20 + 2 daughter cards I know nothing about. I am still configuring things as I'm just now bringing it (the 5i25) to life. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS - - Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- --- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___
Re: [Emc-users] integrator manual
Yes... Doing that is very common on small machines. Dave On 7/15/2014 5:26 PM, a k wrote: to be sure --HOME_SEQUENCE 0|1|2|3 0|1|2|3- this set sequence for axis? like 0-x first, 1-y second etc? On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2014 15:38:42 a k did opine And Gene did reply: about code from hal net home-switch = hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.gpio.025.in_not net home-switch = axis.0.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.1.home-sw-in net home-switch = axis.2.home-sw-in / interesting explanation about pin connection each of the three axes have their own home switch. All # home switches are connected to GPIO 25, though hostmot2 boards generally # have enough GPIO pins to put each axis' home switch on its own pin. how it can work All home switches are connected to GPIO 25??? Either all switches are wired n.c. and in series, or all wired n.o. and in parallel. lcnc contains logic that will not move anything if any of the switches is already tripped when you hit ctrl+home. You must have the statement in the .ini file for each axis HOME_IS_SHARED = true, and HOME_SEQUENCE 0|1|2|3 (one of each sets the homing sequence starting with 0) which brings that logic into play. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2014 10:03:52 Ed Nisley did opine And Gene did reply: I M does not shows any working sample Here's how I did it for my little Sherline mill... Modify the Sherline control box to accept the wiring. This is an example for the tool length probe line, but the same thing happened for the home switch input: http://softsolder.com/2010/04/11/sherline-tool-length-probe-adding- a-ja ck/ Connect the physical home switches to the parallel port pin and define the HAL wiring that connects the input pin to the homing signals: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/11/sherline-cnc-mill-adding-home-swit ches / Define the homing parameters that control the motion on all three axes: http://softsolder.com/2010/05/12/sherline-cnc-mill-defining-home-sw itch es/ That configuration worked back in the 2.4 days and has continued to work fine ever since, so it should get you reasonably close to your goal. Hope that helps ... It gets more complex than that Ed, he is using Mesa cards where the GPIO port pin number isn't generally the number you use in the hal file for a parport number. I needed a spindle run/brake signal on the db25's pin 17, but had to consult the dmesg output to determine the actual address of that pin for a 5i25 interface card. He is using a 5i20 + 2 daughter cards I know nothing about. I am still configuring things as I'm just now bringing it (the 5i25) to life. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS - - Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- --- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
[Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem
Hello to everybody. I know this has nothing to do with LinuxCNC but here there is really smart and kind people so I think you can help me out as usual :). We have an old Mazak QT 20 with a mazatrol T1 controller, and a Fanuc model 15 drive I think. The number on the drive board is A20B - 0009 - 0534. From time to time when I started up the lathe in the morning I got the ALARM 55 MOTOR OVERLOAD. This happened usually in days with high humidity. When this happened I ventilated all the cabinetes, wait for a few minutes and then reconnected the main power switch and the lathe was ready to work again and the alarm didn't tripped anymore. Yesterday the alarm showed up again, but this time more frequently, and it's impossible to work with the machine. Today the same, I can't reset the alarm, not even switching off the general switch like I always do. There are four leds in the fanuc drive board numbered 2 - 4 - 8 - 12 I think. The 8 and 12 are glowing. I don't have any documentation about this drive, so I don't know for sure where to start. I have to mention that the first day this problem started we had a problem with one phase in our workshop. The phase was still there, but it couldn't be detected by a multimeter, anyway the machines were working ok. The problem was a faulty lamp that was almost shorted. A strange case, in fact when I used the multimeter to check that phase it showed 0 volts with the tip of the multimeter in contact, and when I retired the tip, for a fraction of a second the voltage raised in the multimeter and then droppend again. I suspect that this has something to do with the malfunction on my lathe, but I'm not sure, anyway I think it's important to mention it. Now the phase problem is corrected, but the lathe still has the alarm. Well, that's the problem and I don't know where to start (besides from checking fuses) because I don't have any documentation about this drive. I'm even thinking in the worst case scenario of replacing the drive, but I need a hand with that too to identify the wires so the control can work. I hope you can give me a hand to diagnose the problem so I can take measures about it because I need this machine to work. Sorry for the long text by I like to be explicit about the problem! Thanks as always for your help! -- *Leonardo Marsaglia*. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem
I've been told before by an industrial repair shop that usually the first parts to fail are the electrolytic caps on the old drive boards. Their standard was to replace all of the electrolytics initially and then retest the board. The logic being that if they were not bad, they were living on the edge. Dave On 7/15/2014 7:23 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Hello to everybody. I know this has nothing to do with LinuxCNC but here there is really smart and kind people so I think you can help me out as usual :). We have an old Mazak QT 20 with a mazatrol T1 controller, and a Fanuc model 15 drive I think. The number on the drive board is A20B - 0009 - 0534. From time to time when I started up the lathe in the morning I got the ALARM 55 MOTOR OVERLOAD. This happened usually in days with high humidity. When this happened I ventilated all the cabinetes, wait for a few minutes and then reconnected the main power switch and the lathe was ready to work again and the alarm didn't tripped anymore. Yesterday the alarm showed up again, but this time more frequently, and it's impossible to work with the machine. Today the same, I can't reset the alarm, not even switching off the general switch like I always do. There are four leds in the fanuc drive board numbered 2 - 4 - 8 - 12 I think. The 8 and 12 are glowing. I don't have any documentation about this drive, so I don't know for sure where to start. I have to mention that the first day this problem started we had a problem with one phase in our workshop. The phase was still there, but it couldn't be detected by a multimeter, anyway the machines were working ok. The problem was a faulty lamp that was almost shorted. A strange case, in fact when I used the multimeter to check that phase it showed 0 volts with the tip of the multimeter in contact, and when I retired the tip, for a fraction of a second the voltage raised in the multimeter and then droppend again. I suspect that this has something to do with the malfunction on my lathe, but I'm not sure, anyway I think it's important to mention it. Now the phase problem is corrected, but the lathe still has the alarm. Well, that's the problem and I don't know where to start (besides from checking fuses) because I don't have any documentation about this drive. I'm even thinking in the worst case scenario of replacing the drive, but I need a hand with that too to identify the wires so the control can work. I hope you can give me a hand to diagnose the problem so I can take measures about it because I need this machine to work. Sorry for the long text by I like to be explicit about the problem! Thanks as always for your help! -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem
2014-07-15 20:52 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I've been told before by an industrial repair shop that usually the first parts to fail are the electrolytic caps on the old drive boards. Their standard was to replace all of the electrolytics initially and then retest the board. The logic being that if they were not bad, they were living on the edge. Hello Dave, and thanks for the quick answer. There are some big electrolytic caps inside the cabinet (80 mm diameter and 180 mm long approx). I can replace them easy but is there a way to know if they are faulty before replace them? My brother has a digital oscilloscope that can measure capacitance but I don't know if that's ok for this kind of capacitors. But I guess if they are in the range the oscilloscope can measure I might work. -- *Leonardo Marsaglia*. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem
hi there is there any alarm lamps lit on the fanuc boards for the spindle drive? does the motor try to turn/move if it does some odd pulsing/stutter moving most of the time it relateas to the PG in side the motor for the speed feedback. abit more info might help alot more in this error state. does it happen when you turn the main power on? or when you release the machine from estop? -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem
2014-07-15 20:47 GMT-03:00 robert - Innovative-RC rob...@innovative-rc.com : is there any alarm lamps lit on the fanuc boards for the spindle drive? Hello Robert. There are four leds numbered 1 2 4 8 (I got it wrong before). The number 4 and 8 are glowing at the time the alarm is tripped. does the motor try to turn/move if it does some odd pulsing/stutter moving most of the time it relateas to the PG in side the motor for the speed feedback. The motor cannot be turned at all while the alarm is on because the machine remains in e-stop condition. When I was turning the spindle at 300 rpm today, in one of the short moments the alarm didn't trip I could notice the spindle was a little weird, like it couldn't kept the 300 rpm, and tried to stop, a few seconds later the alarm tripped again. Sometimes I can use it with no problems, but then again the alarm. I don't know if the pulse generator is inside the motor, because there's a timing pulley driving what I believe is a tachometer just over the spindle. This is what the lathe uses for threading and measuring spindle speed. abit more info might help alot more in this error state. does it happen when you turn the main power on? or when you release the machine from estop? In general the alarm showed at the moment you turn on the machine, but this time it happened even after I started to work. -- *Leonardo Marsaglia*. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem
I doubt that you can effectively test electrolytic power caps without placing them under a similar voltage situation. Be careful as the DC bus voltage in a drive like that can easily be lethal. Make sure your test equipment can handle the voltage. Google testing electrolytic capacitor and that may get you started. Dave On 7/15/2014 7:59 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: 2014-07-15 20:52 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I've been told before by an industrial repair shop that usually the first parts to fail are the electrolytic caps on the old drive boards. Their standard was to replace all of the electrolytics initially and then retest the board. The logic being that if they were not bad, they were living on the edge. Hello Dave, and thanks for the quick answer. There are some big electrolytic caps inside the cabinet (80 mm diameter and 180 mm long approx). I can replace them easy but is there a way to know if they are faulty before replace them? My brother has a digital oscilloscope that can measure capacitance but I don't know if that's ok for this kind of capacitors. But I guess if they are in the range the oscilloscope can measure I might work. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem
2014-07-15 22:15 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I doubt that you can effectively test electrolytic power caps without placing them under a similar voltage situation. Be careful as the DC bus voltage in a drive like that can easily be lethal. Make sure your test equipment can handle the voltage. Google testing electrolytic capacitor and that may get you started. Thank you dave for your advices, I'm gonna check out some google results to see if I can test them before replacing it. In the mean time I'm sending emails to Fanuc to see if there is an easy way to know what's going on with the driver. -- *Leonardo Marsaglia*. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem
www.fanucworld.com is a very good resource On Jul 15, 2014 9:02 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-15 22:15 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I doubt that you can effectively test electrolytic power caps without placing them under a similar voltage situation. Be careful as the DC bus voltage in a drive like that can easily be lethal. Make sure your test equipment can handle the voltage. Google testing electrolytic capacitor and that may get you started. Thank you dave for your advices, I'm gonna check out some google results to see if I can test them before replacing it. In the mean time I'm sending emails to Fanuc to see if there is an easy way to know what's going on with the driver. -- *Leonardo Marsaglia*. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem
Leonardo, I recently had a problem very similar to this with my Kira machining center. The light combination indicated a low voltage problem and when checked every way I knew how, it wasn't there. So I suspected the drive and sent it away for an expensive repair and got perilously close to some critical deadlines waiting for its return. The repair company (Galco) didn't find anything wrong but replaced the caps and other miscellaneous small parts and sent it back. I still had the faulting at intermittent times and was back to square one. Then it hit me like a ton of bricks - I had recently replaced an air compressor and I could trace the faults, when they did occur, to a voltage drop when the compressor kicked in. So I decided I should either get a soft-starter or a VFD for the compressor. I ended up sourcing a Schneider soft-start from Newark at about $230, and it took a phone call to schneider to find out what the documentation lacked but it was an easy wiring job and there are no more Kira problems. I realize this may have nothing to do with your problem except perhaps to alert you to think about anything that may be contributing to your issue. In my case, my Kira was doing exactly what it was supposed to do - fault if that voltage went low. Andy -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
