Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360
I tried this about 6 months ago.. It was about 95% there.. (Lutris) My account, My drawing... https://photos.app.goo.gl/5PMsUnD4KAFyEFkF6 On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 8:32 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > I run Fusion 360 on Linux inside a virtual machine. I use VMware and then > Windows 10 and then Fusion 360. This works well if you have a computer > with enough RAM and CPU cores, and a good enough graphics card. I keep the > VM image on an M.2 FLASH memory that is very fast > Inside VMware, you can specify how much RAM and how many CPU cores to > assign to the virtual Windows computer. Fusion needs maybe 4 cores and 24 > GB RAM to function acceptably. Linux continues to run on what is left > over. > > I have also run Fusion 360 in a 2011 vintage iMac with a 4-core i5 CPU and > 32 GB RAM.Fusion 360 has comparable performance on both computers. > > The largest project I did on Fusion 360 with the above is a CNC conversion > of a Harbor Freight mini mill. I modeled the entire mill and also all the > add-on parts. > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 3:52 PM Martin Dobbins wrote: > > > So, following on from the CAM discussion and all the love shown to Fusion > > 360 > > > > Has anyone tried: > > > > https://all3dp.com/2/fusion-360-for-linux-how-to-install-it/ > > > > or something similar? > > > > Or do you all use Windows or Mac? > > > > Martin > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > -- > > Chris Albertson > Redondo Beach, California > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
Marcus wrote The problem with Fusion 3690 CAD_to_CAM is the additional cost: 1000GBP CAM is included with Fusion 360 additional machining extensions are extra but not needed for most work. John Figie On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 5:44 PM wrote: > On 2022-10-21 17:07, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > > piektd., 2022. g. 21. okt., plkst. 20:21 — lietotājs John Dammeyer > > () rakstīja: > >> > >> What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated > >> with with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a > >> drawing for better CAM without having to start all over again with the > >> CAD. > >> > > > > 90% of my milling is 2,5D and I use SheetCAM for that (although it is > > not matching your preference of having CAD integrated as well). Those > > rare cases for actual 3D milling (for example, bathroom sink from > > wood) I have been using Solidworks with their integrated CAM, but I am > > pretty convinced to try Fusion360 based on tutorial videos I have > > seen. > > I'm with Viesturs as I also use Sheetcam. I draw in Rhino, and export > dxf layers like PROFILE, HOLES, POCKET, etc. Using Rhino's CONTOUR > command I can even do a version of waterlining. It's the workflow I > have... > > Thanks, > Matt > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360
I run Fusion 360 on Linux inside a virtual machine. I use VMware and then Windows 10 and then Fusion 360. This works well if you have a computer with enough RAM and CPU cores, and a good enough graphics card. I keep the VM image on an M.2 FLASH memory that is very fast Inside VMware, you can specify how much RAM and how many CPU cores to assign to the virtual Windows computer. Fusion needs maybe 4 cores and 24 GB RAM to function acceptably. Linux continues to run on what is left over. I have also run Fusion 360 in a 2011 vintage iMac with a 4-core i5 CPU and 32 GB RAM.Fusion 360 has comparable performance on both computers. The largest project I did on Fusion 360 with the above is a CNC conversion of a Harbor Freight mini mill. I modeled the entire mill and also all the add-on parts. On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 3:52 PM Martin Dobbins wrote: > So, following on from the CAM discussion and all the love shown to Fusion > 360 > > Has anyone tried: > > https://all3dp.com/2/fusion-360-for-linux-how-to-install-it/ > > or something similar? > > Or do you all use Windows or Mac? > > Martin > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fusion 360
I use fusion on both windows and Mac. Mostly Mac. Matthew Herd > On Oct 21, 2022, at 6:52 PM, Martin Dobbins wrote: > > So, following on from the CAM discussion and all the love shown to Fusion 360 > > Has anyone tried: > > https://all3dp.com/2/fusion-360-for-linux-how-to-install-it/ > > or something similar? > > Or do you all use Windows or Mac? > > Martin > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Fusion 360
So, following on from the CAM discussion and all the love shown to Fusion 360 Has anyone tried: https://all3dp.com/2/fusion-360-for-linux-how-to-install-it/ or something similar? Or do you all use Windows or Mac? Martin ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
On 2022-10-21 17:07, Viesturs Lācis wrote: piektd., 2022. g. 21. okt., plkst. 20:21 — lietotājs John Dammeyer () rakstīja: What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated with with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing for better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. 90% of my milling is 2,5D and I use SheetCAM for that (although it is not matching your preference of having CAD integrated as well). Those rare cases for actual 3D milling (for example, bathroom sink from wood) I have been using Solidworks with their integrated CAM, but I am pretty convinced to try Fusion360 based on tutorial videos I have seen. I'm with Viesturs as I also use Sheetcam. I draw in Rhino, and export dxf layers like PROFILE, HOLES, POCKET, etc. Using Rhino's CONTOUR command I can even do a version of waterlining. It's the workflow I have... Thanks, Matt ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 20:06, John Figie wrote: > > I use Fusion 360 paid subscription that I got several years ago I use F360 too, though rather hate myself for it. But I have been using Autocad in various guises since the 1990s and at this point I don't need yet another hobby. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
piektd., 2022. g. 21. okt., plkst. 20:21 — lietotājs John Dammeyer () rakstīja: > > What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated with with > the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing for better > CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. > 90% of my milling is 2,5D and I use SheetCAM for that (although it is not matching your preference of having CAD integrated as well). Those rare cases for actual 3D milling (for example, bathroom sink from wood) I have been using Solidworks with their integrated CAM, but I am pretty convinced to try Fusion360 based on tutorial videos I have seen. Viesturs ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
I'm puzzled. No one has mentioned, positive or negative https://mecsoft.com/products/ John ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
On 2022-10-21 18:54, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: For CAM I use Cut2D+ from Vectric. Very good, very cheap. Having come from Inventor, I use the free version of Fusion 360, and find the interface suits me (most of the time). I agree that any CAD package requires lots of learning time. I go from 3D to GCode in one of two ways (and sometimes mix them): 1. Scripting from scratch, or more usually, stringing together some parameterized routines I have on disk. 2. Using Vectric VCarve Pro, although this is mostly for 2.5D. I used to use Cut2D, and agree it is good value. But I upgraded. That was some years ago, when there was no Post Processor for LinuxCNC, so I created my own. The problem with Fusion 3690 CAD_to_CAM is the additional cost: 1000GBP per year. Way too much to justify for what I do. I would pay the 300GBP for Fusion, but I'm simply not willing to pay for the add-ons. Pity. In practice, a package like VCarve Pro costs around 300GBP per year if you take the upgrades, which I do. I had a friend who bought Vectric Aspire, and used it for his router. Nice package, but very expensive. Marcus ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
I concur with the Vectric recommendation. I use their VCarve and it also handles thread milling, chamfers a little 3D and rotary work. I've rewritten their post and now get proper peck drilling, T/C tapping and other goodies. -Original Message- From: Robin Szemeti via Emc-users Sent: October 21, 2022 1:55 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Cc: Robin Szemeti Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAM software FreeCAD barely does CAD either ... best avoided. If you have used SolidWorks, trying FreeCAD is like slamming your gingers repeatedly in the desk drawer. Last time I tried it, if you removed a feature from the stack, the remaining features re-numbered themselves, but didn't renumber the way features were attached, so a hole that was in the top of something would now be in the side etc. Complete unuseable madness and the developers argued it was "right"! For CAM I use Cut2D+ from Vectric. Very good, very cheap. I am still looking for an affordable true 3D cam package, but for "2 and a half D" Cut2d is fantastic. Pocketing, profiles, drilling, tool libraries, even so level of automatic feature recognition and machining strategies through their "templates" system. Perfect for my small mill and my 8x4 router. On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 18:23, Feral Engineer wrote: > Only experience I have with alibre was when they were the new kid on > the block, trying to compete with solidworks and their interface was > almost as painful as freecad is now > > Phil T. > The Feral Engineer > > Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at > www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer > > Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: > www.patreon.com/theferalengineer > > Order one of the coolest label makers on the market at > http://labelworks.epson.com, use coupon code "theferalengineer" and > receive 20% off of your order > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:20 PM John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > That FreeCAD subject has once again prompted me to ask how people > > are using their CAD/CAM to generate G-Code. > > > > For the first time in about 10 years (or maybe more now) I've > > refused to update my support for MecSoft Visual CAD/CAM because > > their response to my question was _probably_never_. > > > > The question was: "When are you once again going to be able to > > import the .AD_PRT files from AlibreCAD?" > > > > Way back AlibreCAM was VisualCAM from MecSoft and was integrated > > into Alibre. They had some sort of falling out because Alibre is > > also no > longer > > interested in supporting VisualCAM stating that it's MecSoft that > > makes > the > > decision as to whether to integrate. I feel like it was a painful > devorce… > > > > I'm stuck with using the 2020 version of AlibreCAM (with the > > occasional error message) on the current version of AlibreCAD. I > > will tell Alibre this year that I no longer feel the need to pay > > support after way more > than > > 16 years of support payments (I have drawings from 2006). > > > > From what I can see FreeCAD doesn't do CAM. I have no interest in > > using Fusion360. Both Fusion360, FreeCAD and the VisualCAD user > > interface confuse me. Just can't seem to learn them while I find AlibreCAD > > easy. > > But then I could never really effectively use AutoCAD either which > > is why Alibre was so great when it showed up. > > > > What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated > > with with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a > > drawing for better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. > > > > Thanks > > John > > > > > > > > > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" > > Automation Artisans Inc. > > www dot autoartisans dot com > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
I use Fusion 360 paid subscription that I got several years ago at an introductory rate that they said would never go up. So far so good. The only other that I have used is pro engineer / Creo. I think Fusion 360 is good for the cost and easier to use. I like that the post processor can be customized - which I have made a few tweeks to the ready made LinuxCNC post for my machine and the way i like to use it. The post processor writes the file directly to my LinuxCNC machine. If I need to go back and change something like material to leave to fine tune my part it's quick and easy to do. John Figie On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:24 PM Robin Szemeti via Emc-users < emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > FreeCAD barely does CAD either ... best avoided. If you have used > SolidWorks, trying FreeCAD is like slamming your gingers repeatedly in the > desk drawer. Last time I tried it, if you removed a feature from the stack, > the remaining features re-numbered themselves, but didn't renumber the way > features were attached, so a hole that was in the top of something would > now be in the side etc. Complete unuseable madness and the developers > argued it was "right"! > > For CAM I use Cut2D+ from Vectric. Very good, very cheap. I am still > looking for an affordable true 3D cam package, but for "2 and a half D" > Cut2d is fantastic. Pocketing, profiles, drilling, tool libraries, even so > level of automatic feature recognition and machining strategies through > their "templates" system. Perfect for my small mill and my 8x4 router. > > On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 18:23, Feral Engineer > wrote: > > > Only experience I have with alibre was when they were the new kid on the > > block, trying to compete with solidworks and their interface was almost > as > > painful as freecad is now > > > > Phil T. > > The Feral Engineer > > > > Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at > > www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer > > > > Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: > > www.patreon.com/theferalengineer > > > > Order one of the coolest label makers on the market at > > http://labelworks.epson.com, use coupon code "theferalengineer" and > > receive > > 20% off of your order > > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:20 PM John Dammeyer > > wrote: > > > > > That FreeCAD subject has once again prompted me to ask how people are > > > using their CAD/CAM to generate G-Code. > > > > > > For the first time in about 10 years (or maybe more now) I've refused > to > > > update my support for MecSoft Visual CAD/CAM because their response to > my > > > question was _probably_never_. > > > > > > The question was: "When are you once again going to be able to import > the > > > .AD_PRT files from AlibreCAD?" > > > > > > Way back AlibreCAM was VisualCAM from MecSoft and was integrated into > > > Alibre. They had some sort of falling out because Alibre is also no > > longer > > > interested in supporting VisualCAM stating that it's MecSoft that makes > > the > > > decision as to whether to integrate. I feel like it was a painful > > devorce… > > > > > > I'm stuck with using the 2020 version of AlibreCAM (with the occasional > > > error message) on the current version of AlibreCAD. I will tell Alibre > > > this year that I no longer feel the need to pay support after way more > > than > > > 16 years of support payments (I have drawings from 2006). > > > > > > From what I can see FreeCAD doesn't do CAM. I have no interest in > using > > > Fusion360. Both Fusion360, FreeCAD and the VisualCAD user interface > > > confuse me. Just can't seem to learn them while I find AlibreCAD easy. > > > But then I could never really effectively use AutoCAD either which is > why > > > Alibre was so great when it showed up. > > > > > > What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated > with > > > with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing > for > > > better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. > > > > > > Thanks > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" > > > Automation Artisans Inc. > > > www dot autoartisans dot com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
Definitely the best way to describe it Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: www.patreon.com/theferalengineer Order one of the coolest label makers on the market at http://labelworks.epson.com, use coupon code "theferalengineer" and receive 20% off of your order On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 2:24 PM Robin Szemeti via Emc-users < emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > FreeCAD barely does CAD either ... best avoided. If you have used > SolidWorks, trying FreeCAD is like slamming your gingers repeatedly in the > desk drawer. Last time I tried it, if you removed a feature from the stack, > the remaining features re-numbered themselves, but didn't renumber the way > features were attached, so a hole that was in the top of something would > now be in the side etc. Complete unuseable madness and the developers > argued it was "right"! > > For CAM I use Cut2D+ from Vectric. Very good, very cheap. I am still > looking for an affordable true 3D cam package, but for "2 and a half D" > Cut2d is fantastic. Pocketing, profiles, drilling, tool libraries, even so > level of automatic feature recognition and machining strategies through > their "templates" system. Perfect for my small mill and my 8x4 router. > > On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 18:23, Feral Engineer > wrote: > > > Only experience I have with alibre was when they were the new kid on the > > block, trying to compete with solidworks and their interface was almost > as > > painful as freecad is now > > > > Phil T. > > The Feral Engineer > > > > Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at > > www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer > > > > Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: > > www.patreon.com/theferalengineer > > > > Order one of the coolest label makers on the market at > > http://labelworks.epson.com, use coupon code "theferalengineer" and > > receive > > 20% off of your order > > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:20 PM John Dammeyer > > wrote: > > > > > That FreeCAD subject has once again prompted me to ask how people are > > > using their CAD/CAM to generate G-Code. > > > > > > For the first time in about 10 years (or maybe more now) I've refused > to > > > update my support for MecSoft Visual CAD/CAM because their response to > my > > > question was _probably_never_. > > > > > > The question was: "When are you once again going to be able to import > the > > > .AD_PRT files from AlibreCAD?" > > > > > > Way back AlibreCAM was VisualCAM from MecSoft and was integrated into > > > Alibre. They had some sort of falling out because Alibre is also no > > longer > > > interested in supporting VisualCAM stating that it's MecSoft that makes > > the > > > decision as to whether to integrate. I feel like it was a painful > > devorce… > > > > > > I'm stuck with using the 2020 version of AlibreCAM (with the occasional > > > error message) on the current version of AlibreCAD. I will tell Alibre > > > this year that I no longer feel the need to pay support after way more > > than > > > 16 years of support payments (I have drawings from 2006). > > > > > > From what I can see FreeCAD doesn't do CAM. I have no interest in > using > > > Fusion360. Both Fusion360, FreeCAD and the VisualCAD user interface > > > confuse me. Just can't seem to learn them while I find AlibreCAD easy. > > > But then I could never really effectively use AutoCAD either which is > why > > > Alibre was so great when it showed up. > > > > > > What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated > with > > > with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing > for > > > better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. > > > > > > Thanks > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" > > > Automation Artisans Inc. > > > www dot autoartisans dot com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
FreeCAD barely does CAD either ... best avoided. If you have used SolidWorks, trying FreeCAD is like slamming your gingers repeatedly in the desk drawer. Last time I tried it, if you removed a feature from the stack, the remaining features re-numbered themselves, but didn't renumber the way features were attached, so a hole that was in the top of something would now be in the side etc. Complete unuseable madness and the developers argued it was "right"! For CAM I use Cut2D+ from Vectric. Very good, very cheap. I am still looking for an affordable true 3D cam package, but for "2 and a half D" Cut2d is fantastic. Pocketing, profiles, drilling, tool libraries, even so level of automatic feature recognition and machining strategies through their "templates" system. Perfect for my small mill and my 8x4 router. On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 18:23, Feral Engineer wrote: > Only experience I have with alibre was when they were the new kid on the > block, trying to compete with solidworks and their interface was almost as > painful as freecad is now > > Phil T. > The Feral Engineer > > Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at > www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer > > Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: > www.patreon.com/theferalengineer > > Order one of the coolest label makers on the market at > http://labelworks.epson.com, use coupon code "theferalengineer" and > receive > 20% off of your order > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:20 PM John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > That FreeCAD subject has once again prompted me to ask how people are > > using their CAD/CAM to generate G-Code. > > > > For the first time in about 10 years (or maybe more now) I've refused to > > update my support for MecSoft Visual CAD/CAM because their response to my > > question was _probably_never_. > > > > The question was: "When are you once again going to be able to import the > > .AD_PRT files from AlibreCAD?" > > > > Way back AlibreCAM was VisualCAM from MecSoft and was integrated into > > Alibre. They had some sort of falling out because Alibre is also no > longer > > interested in supporting VisualCAM stating that it's MecSoft that makes > the > > decision as to whether to integrate. I feel like it was a painful > devorce… > > > > I'm stuck with using the 2020 version of AlibreCAM (with the occasional > > error message) on the current version of AlibreCAD. I will tell Alibre > > this year that I no longer feel the need to pay support after way more > than > > 16 years of support payments (I have drawings from 2006). > > > > From what I can see FreeCAD doesn't do CAM. I have no interest in using > > Fusion360. Both Fusion360, FreeCAD and the VisualCAD user interface > > confuse me. Just can't seem to learn them while I find AlibreCAD easy. > > But then I could never really effectively use AutoCAD either which is why > > Alibre was so great when it showed up. > > > > What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated with > > with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing for > > better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. > > > > Thanks > > John > > > > > > > > > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" > > Automation Artisans Inc. > > www dot autoartisans dot com > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
Freecad's interface isn't even similar to freecad's interface. There's no rhyme or reason as to why you need to pick an edge before you can create a feature and create a feature without picking an edge first. I've spent the time to learn some of the nuances of freecad, but it's still not as intuitive as solidworks or f360. Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: www.patreon.com/theferalengineer Order one of the coolest label makers on the market at http://labelworks.epson.com, use coupon code "theferalengineer" and receive 20% off of your order On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:39 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > Solidworks, FreeCAD, Fusion360 all are pretty much the same in terms of the > user interface. If doing serious work, just buy the paid version of > Fusion360 and sign up for real classes, Actually do the exercises. It is > normal for it to take weeks or months of daily use before you get good at > it. > > Fusion is pretty much seamless from design sketches to working g-code. > > It is like a piano. It would be silly if I said "I've watched 3 youtube > videos and tried for 40 minutes and I still can't play the piano." It is > kind of the same with state of the art CAD/CAM systems. Give it 100 > hours before you can be called a "competent beginner" > > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:21 AM John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > That FreeCAD subject has once again prompted me to ask how people are > > using their CAD/CAM to generate G-Code. > > > > For the first time in about 10 years (or maybe more now) I've refused to > > update my support for MecSoft Visual CAD/CAM because their response to my > > question was _probably_never_. > > > > The question was: "When are you once again going to be able to import the > > .AD_PRT files from AlibreCAD?" > > > > Way back AlibreCAM was VisualCAM from MecSoft and was integrated into > > Alibre. They had some sort of falling out because Alibre is also no > longer > > interested in supporting VisualCAM stating that it's MecSoft that makes > the > > decision as to whether to integrate. I feel like it was a painful > devorce… > > > > I'm stuck with using the 2020 version of AlibreCAM (with the occasional > > error message) on the current version of AlibreCAD. I will tell Alibre > > this year that I no longer feel the need to pay support after way more > than > > 16 years of support payments (I have drawings from 2006). > > > > From what I can see FreeCAD doesn't do CAM. I have no interest in using > > Fusion360. Both Fusion360, FreeCAD and the VisualCAD user interface > > confuse me. Just can't seem to learn them while I find AlibreCAD easy. > > But then I could never really effectively use AutoCAD either which is why > > Alibre was so great when it showed up. > > > > What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated with > > with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing for > > better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. > > > > Thanks > > John > > > > > > > > > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" > > Automation Artisans Inc. > > www dot autoartisans dot com > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > -- > > Chris Albertson > Redondo Beach, California > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
also dxf2gcode. (have not played with it in a long time..) https://sourceforge.net/projects/dxf2gcode/ I have been meaning to try out freecads cam package but have not had time. sam On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 12:45 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > ace converter? (I still use it a lot..) > > sam > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 12:39 PM Chris Albertson < > albertson.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Solidworks, FreeCAD, Fusion360 all are pretty much the same in terms of >> the >> user interface. If doing serious work, just buy the paid version of >> Fusion360 and sign up for real classes, Actually do the exercises. It is >> normal for it to take weeks or months of daily use before you get good at >> it. >> >> Fusion is pretty much seamless from design sketches to working g-code. >> >> It is like a piano. It would be silly if I said "I've watched 3 youtube >> videos and tried for 40 minutes and I still can't play the piano." It is >> kind of the same with state of the art CAD/CAM systems. Give it 100 >> hours before you can be called a "competent beginner" >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:21 AM John Dammeyer >> wrote: >> >> > That FreeCAD subject has once again prompted me to ask how people are >> > using their CAD/CAM to generate G-Code. >> > >> > For the first time in about 10 years (or maybe more now) I've refused to >> > update my support for MecSoft Visual CAD/CAM because their response to >> my >> > question was _probably_never_. >> > >> > The question was: "When are you once again going to be able to import >> the >> > .AD_PRT files from AlibreCAD?" >> > >> > Way back AlibreCAM was VisualCAM from MecSoft and was integrated into >> > Alibre. They had some sort of falling out because Alibre is also no >> longer >> > interested in supporting VisualCAM stating that it's MecSoft that makes >> the >> > decision as to whether to integrate. I feel like it was a painful >> devorce… >> > >> > I'm stuck with using the 2020 version of AlibreCAM (with the occasional >> > error message) on the current version of AlibreCAD. I will tell Alibre >> > this year that I no longer feel the need to pay support after way more >> than >> > 16 years of support payments (I have drawings from 2006). >> > >> > From what I can see FreeCAD doesn't do CAM. I have no interest in using >> > Fusion360. Both Fusion360, FreeCAD and the VisualCAD user interface >> > confuse me. Just can't seem to learn them while I find AlibreCAD easy. >> > But then I could never really effectively use AutoCAD either which is >> why >> > Alibre was so great when it showed up. >> > >> > What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated with >> > with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing for >> > better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. >> > >> > Thanks >> > John >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" >> > Automation Artisans Inc. >> > www dot autoartisans dot com >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Emc-users mailing list >> > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > >> >> >> -- >> >> Chris Albertson >> Redondo Beach, California >> >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
ace converter? (I still use it a lot..) sam On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 12:39 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > Solidworks, FreeCAD, Fusion360 all are pretty much the same in terms of the > user interface. If doing serious work, just buy the paid version of > Fusion360 and sign up for real classes, Actually do the exercises. It is > normal for it to take weeks or months of daily use before you get good at > it. > > Fusion is pretty much seamless from design sketches to working g-code. > > It is like a piano. It would be silly if I said "I've watched 3 youtube > videos and tried for 40 minutes and I still can't play the piano." It is > kind of the same with state of the art CAD/CAM systems. Give it 100 > hours before you can be called a "competent beginner" > > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:21 AM John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > That FreeCAD subject has once again prompted me to ask how people are > > using their CAD/CAM to generate G-Code. > > > > For the first time in about 10 years (or maybe more now) I've refused to > > update my support for MecSoft Visual CAD/CAM because their response to my > > question was _probably_never_. > > > > The question was: "When are you once again going to be able to import the > > .AD_PRT files from AlibreCAD?" > > > > Way back AlibreCAM was VisualCAM from MecSoft and was integrated into > > Alibre. They had some sort of falling out because Alibre is also no > longer > > interested in supporting VisualCAM stating that it's MecSoft that makes > the > > decision as to whether to integrate. I feel like it was a painful > devorce… > > > > I'm stuck with using the 2020 version of AlibreCAM (with the occasional > > error message) on the current version of AlibreCAD. I will tell Alibre > > this year that I no longer feel the need to pay support after way more > than > > 16 years of support payments (I have drawings from 2006). > > > > From what I can see FreeCAD doesn't do CAM. I have no interest in using > > Fusion360. Both Fusion360, FreeCAD and the VisualCAD user interface > > confuse me. Just can't seem to learn them while I find AlibreCAD easy. > > But then I could never really effectively use AutoCAD either which is why > > Alibre was so great when it showed up. > > > > What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated with > > with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing for > > better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. > > > > Thanks > > John > > > > > > > > > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" > > Automation Artisans Inc. > > www dot autoartisans dot com > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > -- > > Chris Albertson > Redondo Beach, California > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
Solidworks, FreeCAD, Fusion360 all are pretty much the same in terms of the user interface. If doing serious work, just buy the paid version of Fusion360 and sign up for real classes, Actually do the exercises. It is normal for it to take weeks or months of daily use before you get good at it. Fusion is pretty much seamless from design sketches to working g-code. It is like a piano. It would be silly if I said "I've watched 3 youtube videos and tried for 40 minutes and I still can't play the piano." It is kind of the same with state of the art CAD/CAM systems. Give it 100 hours before you can be called a "competent beginner" On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:21 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > That FreeCAD subject has once again prompted me to ask how people are > using their CAD/CAM to generate G-Code. > > For the first time in about 10 years (or maybe more now) I've refused to > update my support for MecSoft Visual CAD/CAM because their response to my > question was _probably_never_. > > The question was: "When are you once again going to be able to import the > .AD_PRT files from AlibreCAD?" > > Way back AlibreCAM was VisualCAM from MecSoft and was integrated into > Alibre. They had some sort of falling out because Alibre is also no longer > interested in supporting VisualCAM stating that it's MecSoft that makes the > decision as to whether to integrate. I feel like it was a painful devorce… > > I'm stuck with using the 2020 version of AlibreCAM (with the occasional > error message) on the current version of AlibreCAD. I will tell Alibre > this year that I no longer feel the need to pay support after way more than > 16 years of support payments (I have drawings from 2006). > > From what I can see FreeCAD doesn't do CAM. I have no interest in using > Fusion360. Both Fusion360, FreeCAD and the VisualCAD user interface > confuse me. Just can't seem to learn them while I find AlibreCAD easy. > But then I could never really effectively use AutoCAD either which is why > Alibre was so great when it showed up. > > What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated with > with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing for > better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. > > Thanks > John > > > > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" > Automation Artisans Inc. > www dot autoartisans dot com > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAM software
Only experience I have with alibre was when they were the new kid on the block, trying to compete with solidworks and their interface was almost as painful as freecad is now Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: www.patreon.com/theferalengineer Order one of the coolest label makers on the market at http://labelworks.epson.com, use coupon code "theferalengineer" and receive 20% off of your order On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:20 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > That FreeCAD subject has once again prompted me to ask how people are > using their CAD/CAM to generate G-Code. > > For the first time in about 10 years (or maybe more now) I've refused to > update my support for MecSoft Visual CAD/CAM because their response to my > question was _probably_never_. > > The question was: "When are you once again going to be able to import the > .AD_PRT files from AlibreCAD?" > > Way back AlibreCAM was VisualCAM from MecSoft and was integrated into > Alibre. They had some sort of falling out because Alibre is also no longer > interested in supporting VisualCAM stating that it's MecSoft that makes the > decision as to whether to integrate. I feel like it was a painful devorce… > > I'm stuck with using the 2020 version of AlibreCAM (with the occasional > error message) on the current version of AlibreCAD. I will tell Alibre > this year that I no longer feel the need to pay support after way more than > 16 years of support payments (I have drawings from 2006). > > From what I can see FreeCAD doesn't do CAM. I have no interest in using > Fusion360. Both Fusion360, FreeCAD and the VisualCAD user interface > confuse me. Just can't seem to learn them while I find AlibreCAD easy. > But then I could never really effectively use AutoCAD either which is why > Alibre was so great when it showed up. > > What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated with > with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing for > better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. > > Thanks > John > > > > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" > Automation Artisans Inc. > www dot autoartisans dot com > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] CAM software
That FreeCAD subject has once again prompted me to ask how people are using their CAD/CAM to generate G-Code. For the first time in about 10 years (or maybe more now) I've refused to update my support for MecSoft Visual CAD/CAM because their response to my question was _probably_never_. The question was: "When are you once again going to be able to import the .AD_PRT files from AlibreCAD?" Way back AlibreCAM was VisualCAM from MecSoft and was integrated into Alibre. They had some sort of falling out because Alibre is also no longer interested in supporting VisualCAM stating that it's MecSoft that makes the decision as to whether to integrate. I feel like it was a painful devorce… I'm stuck with using the 2020 version of AlibreCAM (with the occasional error message) on the current version of AlibreCAD. I will tell Alibre this year that I no longer feel the need to pay support after way more than 16 years of support payments (I have drawings from 2006). From what I can see FreeCAD doesn't do CAM. I have no interest in using Fusion360. Both Fusion360, FreeCAD and the VisualCAD user interface confuse me. Just can't seem to learn them while I find AlibreCAD easy. But then I could never really effectively use AutoCAD either which is why Alibre was so great when it showed up. What is out there for CAM G-Code generation? Preferably integrated with with the CAD package so one can go back and forth to tweak a drawing for better CAM without having to start all over again with the CAD. Thanks John "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" Automation Artisans Inc. www dot autoartisans dot com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Freecad path workbench + drilling small hole
> > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 7:39 AM Nicklas SB Karlsson > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have registered to Freecad mailing lists and posted on at least > > > > > one > > > > > of > > > > > them but they seems dead. Anybody else activing in Freecad? > > > > > > > Yes mailing-lists are dead. > > > > Main place for community is definitely the forum, which is even > > integrated > > into development process. > Joined the forum. Then possible i often find mailing list more > convenient. > I too find mailing lists more convenient although the forums are nice for looking at back postings or threads. John ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Freecad path workbench + drilling small hole
fre 2022-10-21 klockan 09:20 +0200 skrev Jérémie Tarot: > Le jeu. 20 oct. 2022 à 20:05, Nicklas SB Karlsson a > écrit : > > > tor 2022-10-20 klockan 10:31 -0700 skrev Chris Albertson: > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 7:39 AM Nicklas SB Karlsson > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Have registered to Freecad mailing lists and posted on at least > > > > one > > > > of > > > > them but they seems dead. Anybody else activing in Freecad? > > > > Yes mailing-lists are dead. > > Main place for community is definitely the forum, which is even > integrated > into development process. Joined the forum. Then possible i often find mailing list more convenient. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Freecad path workbench + drilling small hole
Le jeu. 20 oct. 2022 à 20:05, Nicklas SB Karlsson a écrit : > tor 2022-10-20 klockan 10:31 -0700 skrev Chris Albertson: > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 7:39 AM Nicklas SB Karlsson > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Have registered to Freecad mailing lists and posted on at least one > > > of > > > them but they seems dead. Anybody else activing in Freecad? > Yes mailing-lists are dead. Main place for community is definitely the forum, which is even integrated into development process. You can also join the chat rooms. All informations are available here https://wiki.freecadweb.org/Help Note that chats are also bridged on Matrix Thanks, will try the forum to get in contact with other people working > on the path module. > The Path WB team is available directly on Matrix https://matrix.to/#/!CWcGgGiwjVLeuMQaGI:gitter.im Use the Element client to join See you there :) ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Freecad path workbench + drilling small hole
Le jeu. 20 oct. 2022 à 22:52, a écrit : > Spot drills are also available in carbide which is much stiffer than a HSS > spot drill. > For best accuracy, the tip angle of the spot drill should be greater than > the angle of your drill. That is, for a 118-degree drill a spot drill of > 120 degrees or more is best. > This ⬆️ Also, carbide drills usually don't require spot drilling. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
