Re: [Emc-users] Axis Gui will not run
On Sat, 2012-07-21 at 18:22 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > Kent A. Reed wrote: > > Rather, I'd have to ask what else was changed when the Axiom card was > > installed? Call me an ornery cuss, but I suspect changes were made to > > configuration files that interfere with Axis starting. > > > Well, a very easy way to test it is to try to run glxgears. That may > even produce a > useful message. If glxgears runs and displays some animated spinning > gears, then > opengl is working correctly. If it doesn't, that is a very strong > indication that > opengl or the mesa emulation is not working. > > Can you pull this graphics card back out and see how it works? > > Jon > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Jon, Thanks for looking into this but I have it working now. By the way, The Axiom card is a Digital I/O card supported by HAL. I was kind of surprised that everyone assumed that it was a video card. The card is the Axiom AX5214H as described in the Linux CNC Docs. The problem was caused by an ATI Video driver that was not removed when I pulled the old video card out a while back.(Long before the DIO card was installed) Don't know why it caused a problem after the DIO card was installed but removing the old video driver corrected the problem. Thanks again, Dave -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Axis Gui will not run
On Sat, 2012-07-21 at 17:02 -0400, Kent A. Reed wrote: > On 7/21/2012 12:38 PM, Dave Keeton wrote: > > All, > >I installed a Axiom ax5214h card in my control. Since doing this > > the Axis GUI will not start up in my config. TKEMC runs fine. Any help > > would be appreciated. > > > > Dave > > > > > > Dave: > > You've got a lively side-bar exchange going among Andy, Eric, and me. > > My interpretation of your first message seems to be the most limited in > that I infer everything including Axis was "working" until you added the > Axiom I/O board. Andy's interpretation would mean Axis never worked. > Eric's would mean LinuxCNC itself is failing to start. We need you to > provide more information :-) > > Which version of LinuxCNC? Which version of Ubuntu? Which motherboard, > cpu, graphics subsystem, etc.? > > Is it a straight-forward install from the LinuxCNC distribution/LiveCD > or have you customized it? > > Under what circumstances, if any, have you ever had Axis running in this > system? > > Does glxgears run and display spinning meshed gears? > > Does the output from dmesg contain any suggestive messages (no, not that > kind of suggestive)? > > > I'm sorry for the curtness of my first response. I was trying to get > some online financial business done before my credit union shut down its > site for maintenance this weekend (nope; they pulled the plug before I > could get finished). I realize now that my appended anecdote looks > pretty snarky. I should have sent it separately since I have been > reminded of the experience by any number of discussion threads. Don't > take it to heart. I actually assumed you were doing pretty well since > you could make TkEMC to run in place of Axis. LinuxCNC can be a bear to > configure with so many possible variations in hardware and interfaces. > Everyone of us has had days where we're stumped. > > Regards, > Kent > > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Sorry if I caused such an uproar just asking a simple question! GEEEZ Guys! Just kidding.Yes I should have given more info as I knew better being a service tech for CNC machines myself. Sorry, it wont happen again! Turns out that long before I installed the Axiom card I removed a Visiontek ATI X1300 graphics card and forgot to remove all of the drivers and ATI Catalyst software. I installed the Axiom DIO card yesterday. The Axis GUI worked up until that point then everything went haywire and the only GUI that would work was tkemc. I removed the ATI drivers and Axis started working again as well as the Axiom card. The computer is a rack mount single board with an ISA/PCI backplane. The CPU is a pentium 4 2.4 Ghz with 2 Gig of ram. Currently using the embedded graphics port. Sorry for the trouble and please don't spankenz me with that hair brush again! ;-) Dave -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Axis Gui will not run
On Sat, 2012-07-21 at 17:45 +0100, andy pugh wrote: > On 21 July 2012 17:38, Dave Keeton wrote: > > All, > > I installed a Axiom ax5214h card in my control. Since doing this > > the Axis GUI will not start up in my config. TKEMC runs fine. Any help > > would be appreciated. > > Probably a graphics card or opengl issue, there are possible solutions > to both issues here: > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TroubleShooting#Display_Issues > Thanks! Turns out it was an active driver from my old video card that had been removed a while back. All is good now! Dave -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Axis Gui will not run
All, I installed a Axiom ax5214h card in my control. Since doing this the Axis GUI will not start up in my config. TKEMC runs fine. Any help would be appreciated. Dave -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Serial encoders
Jon, These encoders are made to have a battery backup attached to them so they can retain position when shut off for long periods of time. When the machine is powered up it sends a request on one of the lines for the encoder to send it's position info back to the control so it can start updating position. It works a lot like the Heidenhan Serial scales. Dave Keeton -- From: "Jon Elson" Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 12:41 PM To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: [Emc-users] Fanuc Serial encoders > With all this talk about serial encoders, does anyone know anything > about Fanuc serial encoders? I've been looking for the protocol specs > all weekend with no luck. It seems they have a VERY large number of > motors out there in the later "red cap" series, the encoder is called > the Β128ia. It has 128K counts/rev (131072). There is also a 64K > count version. It is an absolute encoder, and retains index alignment > for 10 minutes when unpowered. The closest thing I found was a patent > document, but it was not specific enough about the format. > > Anyway, motors from the Βis series use this encoder. Some typical > motors are the A06B-0078-B003, which has encoder model A860-2020-T301. > > Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer. > > (If anyone wonders what this (ampersand) Beta ; stuff is, the browser is > supposed to translate that to a Greek capital Beta character.) > > Jon > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc serial encoders, (try 2)
Jon, I may have some info on these encoders at work. I'll look tomorrow. We use some of the Beta stuff on our newer machines. Dave Keeton Technical Services Manager The Eagle Tool & Machine Co. Springfield, Ohio -- From: "Jon Elson" Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 12:53 PM To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: [Emc-users] Fanuc serial encoders, (try 2) > (Sorry, I tried to be cute and put Greek Beta symbols in my message, > didn't work) > > With all this talk about serial encoders, does anyone know anything > about Fanuc serial encoders? I've been looking for the protocol specs > all weekend with no luck. It seems they have a VERY large number of > motors out there in the later "red cap" series, the encoder is called > the B128ia. It has 128K counts/rev (131072). There is also a 64K count > version. It is an absolute encoder, and retains index alignment for 10 > minutes when unpowered. The closest thing I found was a patent > document, but it was not specific enough about the format. > > Anyway, motors from the Bis series use this encoder. Some typical > motors are the A06B-0078-B003, which has encoder model A860-2020-T301. > (In these series designations the capital B should really be a Greek > Beta character.) > > Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer. > > Jon > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] mux
Thanks again Stuart. Dave Keeton Technical Services Manager The Eagle Tool & Machine Co. Springfield, Ohio -- From: "Stuart Stevenson" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:53 PM To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] mux > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Dave Keeton wrote: > >> Thanks for your reply >> >> What exactly does the >> >> >addf mux2.1 servo-thread >> >> this line adds the mux2.1 to the the servo-thread > this causes it to be executed at the servo-thread rate > > >> do for us, is it required for my situation? What if I add more mux's? >> Does >> that line change again or do I add another? Is there a limit to the >> number >> of mux's we can use? >> >> yes - if you add more muxes (sic?) you must add more addf lines to >> connect > them to a thread > ie > addf mux2.2 servo-thread .. > > you are not restricted to the servo-thread > you can add them to any thread - it just depends on how fast you want to > execute them > > I don't know of a limit. I would guess the limit is the processor's > capability. > > Dave Keeton >> Technical Services Manager >> The Eagle Tool & Machine Co. >> Springfield, Ohio >> >> >> >> >> ------ >> From: "Stuart Stevenson" >> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:37 PM >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] mux >> >> > You want to add another line >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Dave Keeton >> > wrote: >> > >> >> All, >> >> Quick question - If I am using more than one mux (2 for >> >> example) >> >> , >> >> would I do it like this? >> >> >> >> #Basic example of use >> >> loadrt mux2 count=2 >> >> addf mux2.0 servo-thread >> >> >> > >> > >> >add the next line >> > addf mux2.1 servo-thread >> > >> > >> >> >> >> #The first mux >> >> setp mux2.0.in0 25 >> >> setp mux2.0.in1 100 >> >> >> >> #The second mux >> >> setp mux2.1.in0 25 >> >> setp mux2.1.in1 100 >> >> >> >> I am assuming the "count=2" is how many mux's I am using? >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Dave Keeton >> >> Technical Services Manager >> >> The Eagle Tool & Machine Co. >> >> Springfield, Ohio >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> >> ___ >> >> Emc-users mailing list >> >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > dos centavos >> > >> -- >> > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> > ___ >> > Emc-users mailing list >> > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> > > > -- > dos centavos > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] mux
Thanks for your reply What exactly does the >addf mux2.1 servo-thread do for us, is it required for my situation? What if I add more mux's? Does that line change again or do I add another? Is there a limit to the number of mux's we can use? Dave Keeton Technical Services Manager The Eagle Tool & Machine Co. Springfield, Ohio -- From: "Stuart Stevenson" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:37 PM To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] mux > You want to add another line > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Dave Keeton wrote: > >> All, >> Quick question - If I am using more than one mux (2 for example) >> , >> would I do it like this? >> >> #Basic example of use >> loadrt mux2 count=2 >> addf mux2.0 servo-thread >> > > >add the next line > addf mux2.1 servo-thread > > >> >> #The first mux >> setp mux2.0.in0 25 >> setp mux2.0.in1 100 >> >> #The second mux >> setp mux2.1.in0 25 >> setp mux2.1.in1 100 >> >> I am assuming the "count=2" is how many mux's I am using? >> >> Thank you, >> Dave Keeton >> Technical Services Manager >> The Eagle Tool & Machine Co. >> Springfield, Ohio >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> > > > -- > dos centavos > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] mux
All, Quick question - If I am using more than one mux (2 for example) , would I do it like this? #Basic example of use loadrt mux2 count=2 addf mux2.0 servo-thread #The first mux setp mux2.0.in0 25 setp mux2.0.in1 100 #The second mux setp mux2.1.in0 25 setp mux2.1.in1 100 I am assuming the "count=2" is how many mux's I am using? Thank you, Dave Keeton Technical Services Manager The Eagle Tool & Machine Co. Springfield, Ohio -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Probing with a gimbled head.
Thanks Stuart, I have been asked to build a machine that can digitize complex parts (Landing gear). The catch is that it needs to be a "Lights Out Operation" - fully automated. The only way I can see to do this is with a gimbled head and probe on a custom built machine. Thanks for looking into it. I think EMC should be able to do this. Dave On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 22:00 -0600, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Dave, >As soon as I get the cinci running and comped I will start working > on the probing. >If you position the gimbaled head and then qualify the probe to a > standard you will have no issues of accuracy in the gimbaled head. You > would have access and accuracy. > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Dave Keeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How well does probing and digitizing with a gimbled type spindle work? > > Has any one done this. I would like to use it for digitizing complex > > parts. > > > >Thanks in advance for any ideas offered... > > Dave > > > > > > > > - > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > > prizes > > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Probing with a gimbled head.
How well does probing and digitizing with a gimbled type spindle work? Has any one done this. I would like to use it for digitizing complex parts. Thanks in advance for any ideas offered... Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder/MODBUS
I have the trunk version you pointed to in an earlier message. What is the proper command format to compile it? I followed the instructions on the EMC wiki but I may not be doing it right! "make" is not working.. Dave On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 19:26 +, Chris Morley wrote: > 7.124 is included with EMC TRUNK . TRUNK gives you all the cutting edge work > that people have included. It can have bugs of course. It's possible to add > classiclader 7.124 to a production EMC (like 2.2x) but probably not worth the > trouble. > The version 8.02 you found on sourceforge is the parent program that Marc Le > Douarain wrote/develops. We take his work and adapt it for EMC and develop it > for our needs/wants. > > Chris > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:24:35 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Serial IO Interface > > > > Question, do you mean that version 7.124 can be compiled into emc now or > > do you just want us to play with it aside from emc? > > > _ > > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Serial IO Interface
Question, do you mean that version 7.124 can be compiled into emc now or do you just want us to play with it aside from emc? Dave On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 15:04 +, Chris Morley wrote: > > > > > > There is a ModBus feature in Classic Ladder, but it seems to me that an > > HAL component specifically for the ModIO peripheral would be useful. > > ModBus may be a standard, but peripherals that use ModBus vary widely. > > > > Modbus is avaiable in Classicladder 7.124 in CVS right now and will be > included in EMC 2.3 in the future. > Modbus master is configurable as to slave number and type of registers it can > read/write. > You can poll multiply devices then add logic through classicladder or send > them directly to Classicladder's Halpins. > I have tested it using a serial port to run a VDF on my lathe. worked great ( > I haven't tried rigid tapping etc my lathe is not done) > though it is a userspace program it had no problems with communication I set > the VDF to not error with a short lapse in communication. > It can also use TCP but I have not tested this (though the modbus routines > are the same just communication protocol difference) > It can also be used as a slave but only for TCP (I have not tested this) my > intention is to write routines for the serial port eventually. > If anyone has tried it I would like to hear comments about success, problems, > and suggestions. The nice thing is there already is a GUI written to > configure modbus registers though It could be ore user friendly. If I hear > about interest I will spend more time on it. > > Cheers > Chris Morley > _ > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] ModIO, Serial IO Interface
Sorry Kirk, I wasn't referring to recent postI should have specified that. A while back the discussion started out with digital I/O but if I remember correctly it went to issues of timing and servos. I believe it was dropped because it was thought to be unsafe. The only point I was trying to make was that the option to use it or not should remain with the end user and integrator, and that careful planning is required by the integrating person(s) to ensure the safe operation of the machine for the sake of the operator and machine. I think that safety is being being addressed by all involved in this project and great lengths are being taken to provide that safety. My goal is not to offend, only to help in any way possible to help progress with EMC. Again, offense is not my goal and you have my apology! I do agree with your view on spindle operation timing. I just wouldn't trust it with servos. Just my view. Thanks for your comment, Dave On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 08:33 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 10:36 -0400, Dave Keeton wrote: > > I think that using Modbus to operate a vfd for spindle control is ok, > > but again the discussion is going back to issues of timing critical > > functions such as motor and drive control. > ... snip > > Dave > > I agree that Modbus should only be used for non-reatime functions, but I > didn't see anyone suggest to the contrary in the recent posts. I did try > to imply that whatever HAL component is written needs to do what it > needs to do within the time available in the thread that it lives in. I > had trouble with my SPI component due to this. I think just about > everything you would want to with spindle speed and most other I/O can > be done in non-realtime. > > This reminds me that there is a time critical element in ModBus in that > the spec calls out timing constraints on the ACK or RTS or some such > thing. It seemed that experts disagree to how handle the timing issues. > > Kirk > > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Serial IO Interface
Thanks Chris, I know you and I have talked about modbus and classic ladder before. I did find a version on source forge that is version 0.8.2. How would I go about getting version 7.124 to work with the current version? Are there a list of instructions some where? How do I get from CVS? Dave On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 15:04 +, Chris Morley wrote: > > > > > > There is a ModBus feature in Classic Ladder, but it seems to me that an > > HAL component specifically for the ModIO peripheral would be useful. > > ModBus may be a standard, but peripherals that use ModBus vary widely. > > > > Modbus is avaiable in Classicladder 7.124 in CVS right now and will be > included in EMC 2.3 in the future. > Modbus master is configurable as to slave number and type of registers it can > read/write. > You can poll multiply devices then add logic through classicladder or send > them directly to Classicladder's Halpins. > I have tested it using a serial port to run a VDF on my lathe. worked great ( > I haven't tried rigid tapping etc my lathe is not done) > though it is a userspace program it had no problems with communication I set > the VDF to not error with a short lapse in communication. > It can also use TCP but I have not tested this (though the modbus routines > are the same just communication protocol difference) > It can also be used as a slave but only for TCP (I have not tested this) my > intention is to write routines for the serial port eventually. > If anyone has tried it I would like to hear comments about success, problems, > and suggestions. The nice thing is there already is a GUI written to > configure modbus registers though It could be ore user friendly. If I hear > about interest I will spend more time on it. > > Cheers > Chris Morley > _ > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] ModIO, Serial IO Interface
I think that using Modbus to operate a vfd for spindle control is ok, but again the discussion is going back to issues of timing critical functions such as motor and drive control. Simple digital I/O functions would be a much better use for modbus. In my view functions such as home and overtravel switches, E-Stop and power on and off circuits as well as feed hold should be handled by the servo board I/O pins. This brings the hardware watchdog into play on motion critical I/O. The modbus would be useful for things like hand wheel pulses (MPG), external tool and pallet changers and other operator push button functions that are not timing critical. Work lights and coolant on off are not timing critical to the motion control. Machine operators are not consistant in the speed at which they press a button. The software and hardware that reads and writes these functions does not need to be accurate within 20ms. The integrator has to use his head in selecting what I/O point in the entire system is used for what purpose. Dave On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 10:14 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Steven demonstrated a working ModBus spindle control running from EMC2 > > to an AutomationDirect VFD at fest this last summer. We didn't try > > anything like threading but it did forward, reverse, and speed. I'm > > only guessing but I don't think the code got into the repository yet as > > it was pretty specific to the device we used. > > Actually, I think I had a concern about the fact that the modbus library > was LGPL3 instead of LGPL2. I'm also not sure if we want to include the > modbus library in the EMC2 source tree (though it's pretty small). > > I'd like to have a generic modbus infrastructure that allows the user to > specify sets of registers, coils and whatnot (there are 4 memory areas in > modbus, if I remember correctly) and the HAL pins they correspond to. > You'd also have to allow for multi-byte values, and packing multiple bits > into one byte. This gets complicated, so I get lazy :) > > The driver I have is for the Automation Direct GS2 VFD, and I think it may > be OK for it to get checked in (once I return home). The question about > including the library still remains though. > > - Steve > > > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Serial IO Interface
I agree. Every time I have mentioned it the discussion ends up with "It's a bad idea to run servos from modbus". I couldn't agree more but it could be very usful for simple digital I/O very safely. Dave On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 09:25 +1000, Peter Homann wrote: > Rather than writing "another" serial interface why not use Modbus and a > device like the ModIO > http://homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=4 > > The Modbus protocol is extremely robust and has a number of saftey > features built in. > > Cheers, > > Peter. > -- > http://www.homanndesigns.com > > Jeff Epler wrote: > > For "slow I/O" like coolant, a device attached to a serial or USB port > > can be appropriate in emc2. You'll probably have to write your pic > > firmware and an emc2 "hal" driver in tandem, since there's not an > > established protocol for this (unlike, say, step&direction signals). > > > > Conceptually, the PC side is pretty easy: > > 1. open communication with remote device > > 2. initialize hal and create pins and parameters according to device > > details > > 3. loop forever, reading device inputs and writing device outputs > > according to the bandwidth of the serial link > > > > I did something along these lines with an AVR (arduino), which you might > > find useful: > > http://axis.unpy.net/01198594294 > > > > Jeff > > > > - > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > > challenge > > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > > prizes > > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the > > world > > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > - > http://www.homanndesigns.com > > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Parrallel Port Breakout Board
Just for info, I made a breakout board using 10k ohm resistors and terminals. I used it to hook up an MPG encoder to the parallel port with selector switches for axis selection and increment. I built it for testing but plan to implement it for a control refit. Dave On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 11:59 -0600, John Thornton wrote: > yes > > The documentation for the parallal port is in the Integrators manual... > > http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//hal_drivers.html#sec:Parport > > If that is what your asking... > > John > > > On 19 Oct 2008 at 10:14, John Harris wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > Does EMC2 still support the use of a single Parallel Port? If so > > where can I find > > documentation on the functions handled by a single port system and how > > this is done? Thanks > > John > > Harris E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Using the MPG to change overrides
I looked over all of the info all of you recommended and based on what you have shown me I think I can make this work! Thank you very much. Looking at the WIKI it says to use lspci -v to find the address of my parallel port. I have a Dell Diminsion 8200 I am working with with an on board port and it is not showing it. is this an issue? I assume it is because the port is not on the PCI bus. I think that it is 0378 in the bios so I guess this is what I use in my HAL file. Thanks again... Dave On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 10:50 -0600, John Thornton wrote: > There is an example here > > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Hooking_Up_A_MPG_Pendant > > while not an exact example of what you want it should get you close. Any when > you > work out the details please add it to the wiki page > > John > > On 25 May 2008 at 10:02, Dave Keeton wrote: > > >Looking at the integrators manual in the halui section I found the > > following under Feed and Spindle override. > > > > (S 32) halui.feed-override.counts - counts from an encoder for example > > to change FO > > > > (S 32) halui.spindle-override.counts - counts from an encoder for > > example to change SO > > > >The plan is to use the MPG to change the overrides. I have seen > >this > > done on other PC based controls. Is there an example somewhere on how > > these are used? > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > -- > > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. > > Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > > ___ Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Using the MPG to change overrides
Looking at the integrators manual in the halui section I found the following under Feed and Spindle override. (S 32) halui.feed-override.counts - counts from an encoder for example to change FO (S 32) halui.spindle-override.counts - counts from an encoder for example to change SO The plan is to use the MPG to change the overrides. I have seen this done on other PC based controls. Is there an example somewhere on how these are used? Dave - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron
Here is a questionWhen looking at the pci address list, I have two National Intruments devices showing1 is the DIO96 card, The other is named bridge. The "bridge" shows 3 different I/O registers. Do I write the driver to talk to the bridge? I noticed a file called plx9030.h in the source. The bridge device is a plx9030. how would I use this or do I even need to? Dave - Original Message - From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron >I modified the pci_8255 driver and renamed it to pci_dio96 then compiled it > into EMC. I called the new driver in my cofig and it did show up with the > proper number of pins in hal show. Have'nt tested it yet but I do expect > some hurdles. The first time it lock up the computer completely while > loading EMC. I fixed a booboo and it loaded normally after that. I have a > little learning curve but I am on my way. Thank you for all your help so > far. If I can make this work it will give us 96 more IO points to play > withAny future help is welcomed and appreciated... > > Dave > > - Original Message - > From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron > > >> Thank you! That is a big help >> >> Dave >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Stephen Wille Padnos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron >> >> >>> Dave Keeton wrote: >>> >>>>Since I'm still working on that driver for my DIO96, Is it very >>>>difficult >>>>to >>>>compile the new driver into emc? I am fairly new at C programming so >>>>this >>>>is >>>>a learning experience for me. >>>> >>>> >>> Install the developer tools: >>> sudo apt-get install emc2-dev >>> >>> Maybe also install all the EMC build dependencies (though I don't think >>> it's necessary): >>> sudo apt-get build-dep emc2 >>> >>> Then write some C or comp code (man comp for more info, also you can >>> look at all the comps in the emc source after `apt-get source emc2`), >>> and install it with: >>> sudo comp --install mycode.c >>> or sudo comp --install mycode.comp >>> >>> Not too hard, especially if you have DSL or cable for the package >>> downloads :) >>> >>> Oh, there's a wiki page: >>> <http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?HowToWriteNewHalComponent> >>> >>> - Steve >>> [snip] >>> >>> >>> - >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >> >> >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron
I modified the pci_8255 driver and renamed it to pci_dio96 then compiled it into EMC. I called the new driver in my cofig and it did show up with the proper number of pins in hal show. Have'nt tested it yet but I do expect some hurdles. The first time it lock up the computer completely while loading EMC. I fixed a booboo and it loaded normally after that. I have a little learning curve but I am on my way. Thank you for all your help so far. If I can make this work it will give us 96 more IO points to play withAny future help is welcomed and appreciated... Dave - Original Message - From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron > Thank you! That is a big help > > Dave > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephen Wille Padnos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron > > >> Dave Keeton wrote: >> >>>Since I'm still working on that driver for my DIO96, Is it very difficult >>>to >>>compile the new driver into emc? I am fairly new at C programming so this >>>is >>>a learning experience for me. >>> >>> >> Install the developer tools: >> sudo apt-get install emc2-dev >> >> Maybe also install all the EMC build dependencies (though I don't think >> it's necessary): >> sudo apt-get build-dep emc2 >> >> Then write some C or comp code (man comp for more info, also you can >> look at all the comps in the emc source after `apt-get source emc2`), >> and install it with: >> sudo comp --install mycode.c >> or sudo comp --install mycode.comp >> >> Not too hard, especially if you have DSL or cable for the package >> downloads :) >> >> Oh, there's a wiki page: >> <http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?HowToWriteNewHalComponent> >> >> - Steve >> [snip] >> >> >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron
Thank you! That is a big help Dave - Original Message - From: "Stephen Wille Padnos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron > Dave Keeton wrote: > >>Since I'm still working on that driver for my DIO96, Is it very difficult >>to >>compile the new driver into emc? I am fairly new at C programming so this >>is >>a learning experience for me. >> >> > Install the developer tools: > sudo apt-get install emc2-dev > > Maybe also install all the EMC build dependencies (though I don't think > it's necessary): > sudo apt-get build-dep emc2 > > Then write some C or comp code (man comp for more info, also you can > look at all the comps in the emc source after `apt-get source emc2`), > and install it with: > sudo comp --install mycode.c > or sudo comp --install mycode.comp > > Not too hard, especially if you have DSL or cable for the package > downloads :) > > Oh, there's a wiki page: > <http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?HowToWriteNewHalComponent> > > - Steve > [snip] > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron
Since I'm still working on that driver for my DIO96, Is it very difficult to compile the new driver into emc? I am fairly new at C programming so this is a learning experience for me. Dave - Original Message - From: "Ray Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron > > The fact of multiple distributions is one of the best and the worst > features of Linux. It's good because it tends to keep all of them on > their toes when it comes to things like quality and ease of install and > bug fixes and updates. It is bad because each distribution uses > different versions of some critical packages and different file > structures that make them totally or nearly incompatible and the > knowledge of one system worth less when working with another. > > I like the Ubuntu release because it is very easy to use and familiar to > folk accustomed to working with a point-and-click or menu driven os. > Using an official release saves me from having to make my own real-time > capable kernel and emc and then debug the whole thing. > > For some folk the load of packages supplied and run in the standard > release is seen as way to heavy for something that we could run in less > than 10Meg on RedHat 5.0. For these folk there are many choices but the > best path is not always clear. > > IMO we all start someplace and work our own systems to where we want > them. The least effort starting place is an Ubuntu-emc2 cd. > > HTH > > Rayh > > > On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 20:17 -0400, Dave Keeton wrote: >> I've noticed that some of the other users are using other versions of >> Linux >> to run EMC. Is Ubuntu better suited to use and would there be a good >> reason >> to us another OS? >> >>Dave >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Ray Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron >> >> >> > >> > Hi Jaime >> > >> > I've been pushing for the release for a couple weeks and they finally >> > got it ready. I've downloaded it but not tested the final version. >> > I'm >> > sure that it should be good. >> > >> > Try it first in live boot mode and see how it works. If it seems to be >> > okay then install it. >> > >> > Hope this helps >> > >> > Ray >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 00:38 +0200, Jaime Alemany wrote: >> >> Hi Ray, >> >> >> >> and thanks! This all happened today or you managed to make it run with >> >> the older version? No need to answer just sheer curiosity... felt >> >> crazy with all the references to Dapper in the linuxcnc.org page until >> >> I read the message announcing the release. >> >> >> >> Will try tomorrow morning, hopefully I'll solve my latency issues >> >> changing the machine. >> >> >> >> Thanks again, >> >> >> >> jaime >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Ray Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Jaime >> >> >> >> EMC2 version 2.2.5 is running here on a couple machines with >> >> Hardy. The >> >> python version on both is 2.5.2. I did install from the >> >> EMC2-CD >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.linuxcnc.org/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-emc2-aj07-i386.iso >> >> >> >> for the last one but used the install script from linuxcnc.org >> >> for the >> >> first. >> >> >> >> http://www.linuxcnc.org/hardy/emc2-install.sh >> >> >> >> I had to execute the commands in that script line by line >> >> because it >> >> didn't want to just run all by itself. It did get past the >> >> fix of the >> >> apt sources but then died someplace. >> >> >> >> Rayh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> >> De
Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron
I've noticed that some of the other users are using other versions of Linux to run EMC. Is Ubuntu better suited to use and would there be a good reason to us another OS? Dave - Original Message - From: "Ray Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Installing on Hardy Heron > > Hi Jaime > > I've been pushing for the release for a couple weeks and they finally > got it ready. I've downloaded it but not tested the final version. I'm > sure that it should be good. > > Try it first in live boot mode and see how it works. If it seems to be > okay then install it. > > Hope this helps > > Ray > > > On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 00:38 +0200, Jaime Alemany wrote: >> Hi Ray, >> >> and thanks! This all happened today or you managed to make it run with >> the older version? No need to answer just sheer curiosity... felt >> crazy with all the references to Dapper in the linuxcnc.org page until >> I read the message announcing the release. >> >> Will try tomorrow morning, hopefully I'll solve my latency issues >> changing the machine. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> jaime >> >> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Ray Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi Jaime >> >> EMC2 version 2.2.5 is running here on a couple machines with >> Hardy. The >> python version on both is 2.5.2. I did install from the >> EMC2-CD >> >> >> http://www.linuxcnc.org/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-emc2-aj07-i386.iso >> >> for the last one but used the install script from linuxcnc.org >> for the >> first. >> >> http://www.linuxcnc.org/hardy/emc2-install.sh >> >> I had to execute the commands in that script line by line >> because it >> didn't want to just run all by itself. It did get past the >> fix of the >> apt sources but then died someplace. >> >> Rayh >> >> >> >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ >> ___ Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Comedi drivers?
Can comedi drivers be used for EMC? If not, would it be hard to convert one to a HAL driver? Dave - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver
So is there anyone who might be interested in helping with a driver? I just need some pushing in the right direction Dave - Original Message - From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > So, am I correct in assuming that the card does not have to be there for > hal > to load the driver for the pins? Everything is in hal show as it should be > except I don't have the card in..I take it we are probably going to > have > to write a driver here? I am not a C programmer but I'll try anything > once... > > Thanks Jeff, > Dave > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Epler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > > >> On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:54:02AM -0400, Dave Keeton wrote: >>> I reloaded the pci_8255 driver and commented out the ax. Now it shows 72 >>> i/o >>> pins in hal show. I still had no luck seeing inputs change states. Just >>> an >>> update. >> >> The so-called "pci_8255" driver in emc is *only* for the futurlec card >> with 3 8255 chips and a tiger-320 PCI bridge. It will not work without >> modification on any other type of card. (and according to user reports, >> not even that card works when any of the ports are set to input mode) >> >> Jeff >> >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver
So, am I correct in assuming that the card does not have to be there for hal to load the driver for the pins? Everything is in hal show as it should be except I don't have the card in..I take it we are probably going to have to write a driver here? I am not a C programmer but I'll try anything once... Thanks Jeff, Dave - Original Message - From: "Jeff Epler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:54:02AM -0400, Dave Keeton wrote: >> I reloaded the pci_8255 driver and commented out the ax. Now it shows 72 >> i/o >> pins in hal show. I still had no luck seeing inputs change states. Just >> an >> update. > > The so-called "pci_8255" driver in emc is *only* for the futurlec card > with 3 8255 chips and a tiger-320 PCI bridge. It will not work without > modification on any other type of card. (and according to user reports, > not even that card works when any of the ports are set to input mode) > > Jeff > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver
I reloaded the pci_8255 driver and commented out the ax. Now it shows 72 i/o pins in hal show. I still had no luck seeing inputs change states. Just an update. Dave - Original Message - From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver >I tried a switch and resistor as shown in the NI manual. I set all of the >48 > pins to input before I did this in the hal file. Using hal show/watch I > couldn't see any change in the pin status for all of the 48 pins. Could > this > be an address issue? the pci address for the DIO 96 is showing as ff0. My > board doesn't have a jumper W1. The manual for it covers 3 different > boards. > It is my understanding that if the hardware is not there then the pins > won't > show at all in hal. Could this driver be somewhat different? If addressing > is this issue how do determine what to put in the loadrt command? > > Thank you for your help, > Dave > > - Original Message - > From: "Dave Engvall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > > >> By default the outputs of the 8255 are pulled high by a 100K >> resistor. Jumper W1 will flip that. >> See pages 3-11,12 of the manual. >> >> Dave >> On May 3, 2008, at 7:27 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Dave. Fascinating experiment. The ax driver is intended for a >>> 48 IO ISA card but I'd hook up a switch to one of the inputs >>> and see if it changes in the HAL. If it does then we can look into >>> that iioo config stuff and see if we can expand. I'd try the >>> switch on several of the inputs. One for each set of 8 inputs. >>> You need pull up or pull down resistors depending on the nature of >>> your board. >>> >>> In my early experiments with this stuff I was able to lock up the >>> PC while doing some of this stuff. Don't be surprised if your's does. >>> >>> Rayh >>> >>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver >>> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:08:23 -0400 >>> >>> Make that 48 I/O points instead of 56 >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 8:57 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver >>> >>> >>>> So here is what I have done.(Recommended by another user) >>>> >>>> The pci_8255 showed up in both components and >>>> functions >>>> but nothing in pins under Hal Configuration. So I commented it out >>>> and did >>>> this... >>>> In the m5i20_io.hal file - >>>>loadrt hal_ax5214h >>>> cfg="0x220_iiooiioo"(Copied >>>> from demo_mazak) >>>> Now I show 56 I/O points in Hal Configuration and Hal >>>> Meter under >>>> pins.Does this mean it worked I assume? Do I have to modify >>>> the driver >>>> to get the remainder of the I/O points in pins? Do I need to go >>>> ahead and >>>> hook up a switch or led to confirm? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:31 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 21:36 -0400, Dave Keeton wrote: >>>>>> So I have installed the PCI-DIO-96 board in the computer.Ubuntu >>>>>> picked >>>>>> it up in the Device manager and called it by name.How do I >>>>>> go about >>>>>> loading the pci_8255 hal driver, What file do I modify in the >>>>>> config >>>>&g
Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver
I tried a switch and resistor as shown in the NI manual. I set all of the 48 pins to input before I did this in the hal file. Using hal show/watch I couldn't see any change in the pin status for all of the 48 pins. Could this be an address issue? the pci address for the DIO 96 is showing as ff0. My board doesn't have a jumper W1. The manual for it covers 3 different boards. It is my understanding that if the hardware is not there then the pins won't show at all in hal. Could this driver be somewhat different? If addressing is this issue how do determine what to put in the loadrt command? Thank you for your help, Dave - Original Message - From: "Dave Engvall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > By default the outputs of the 8255 are pulled high by a 100K > resistor. Jumper W1 will flip that. > See pages 3-11,12 of the manual. > > Dave > On May 3, 2008, at 7:27 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Hi Dave. Fascinating experiment. The ax driver is intended for a >> 48 IO ISA card but I'd hook up a switch to one of the inputs >> and see if it changes in the HAL. If it does then we can look into >> that iioo config stuff and see if we can expand. I'd try the >> switch on several of the inputs. One for each set of 8 inputs. >> You need pull up or pull down resistors depending on the nature of >> your board. >> >> In my early experiments with this stuff I was able to lock up the >> PC while doing some of this stuff. Don't be surprised if your's does. >> >> Rayh >> >> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver >> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:08:23 -0400 >> >> Make that 48 I/O points instead of 56 >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 8:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver >> >> >>> So here is what I have done.(Recommended by another user) >>> >>> The pci_8255 showed up in both components and >>> functions >>> but nothing in pins under Hal Configuration. So I commented it out >>> and did >>> this... >>> In the m5i20_io.hal file - >>>loadrt hal_ax5214h >>> cfg="0x220_iiooiioo"(Copied >>> from demo_mazak) >>> Now I show 56 I/O points in Hal Configuration and Hal >>> Meter under >>> pins.Does this mean it worked I assume? Do I have to modify >>> the driver >>> to get the remainder of the I/O points in pins? Do I need to go >>> ahead and >>> hook up a switch or led to confirm? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dave >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 21:36 -0400, Dave Keeton wrote: >>>>> So I have installed the PCI-DIO-96 board in the computer.Ubuntu >>>>> picked >>>>> it up in the Device manager and called it by name.How do I >>>>> go about >>>>> loading the pci_8255 hal driver, What file do I modify in the >>>>> config >>>>> directory, How do I know if EMC2 sees the board and its I/O points? >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>> >>>> If you look in the Integrator's Manual: >>>> >>>> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/EMC2_Integrator_Manual.pdf >>>> >>>> chapter four indicates that the [HAL] section of the .ini file >>>> for the >>>> configuration you are running, has an entry(ies) called "HALFILE =". >>>> These "HALFILE ="'s will list the .hal files that are part of the >>>> initialization for starting your configuration in EMC2. One of these >>>> files will have "loadrt somedriver and_options" in it. You will >>>> need a &
Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver
Make that 48 I/O points instead of 56 - Original Message - From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > So here is what I have done.(Recommended by another user) > > The pci_8255 showed up in both components and functions > but nothing in pins under Hal Configuration. So I commented it out and did > this... > In the m5i20_io.hal file - >loadrt hal_ax5214h cfg="0x220_iiooiioo"(Copied > from demo_mazak) > Now I show 56 I/O points in Hal Configuration and Hal Meter under > pins.Does this mean it worked I assume? Do I have to modify the driver > to get the remainder of the I/O points in pins? Do I need to go ahead and > hook up a switch or led to confirm? > > Thanks, > Dave > > - Original Message - > From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > > >> On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 21:36 -0400, Dave Keeton wrote: >>> So I have installed the PCI-DIO-96 board in the computer.Ubuntu >>> picked >>> it up in the Device manager and called it by name.How do I go about >>> loading the pci_8255 hal driver, What file do I modify in the config >>> directory, How do I know if EMC2 sees the board and its I/O points? >>> >>> Dave >> >> If you look in the Integrator's Manual: >> >> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/EMC2_Integrator_Manual.pdf >> >> chapter four indicates that the [HAL] section of the .ini file for the >> configuration you are running, has an entry(ies) called "HALFILE =". >> These "HALFILE ="'s will list the .hal files that are part of the >> initialization for starting your configuration in EMC2. One of these >> files will have "loadrt somedriver and_options" in it. You will need a >> loadrt entry for your 8255, plus an entry to add the driver to a thread, >> something like "addf somedriver name_of_thread". You can do a Find for >> addf in the manual to get more information. If you start EMC2 and if the >> driver loads properly, you should be able to start Halmeter and see the >> new Hal pins in the pin list. >> >> -- >> Kirk Wallace (California, USA >> http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ >> Hardinge HNC/EMC CNC lathe, >> Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, >> Zubal lathe conversion pending >> Craftsman AA 109 restoration >> Shizuoka ST-N/EMC CNC) >> >> >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver
So here is what I have done.(Recommended by another user) The pci_8255 showed up in both components and functions but nothing in pins under Hal Configuration. So I commented it out and did this... In the m5i20_io.hal file - loadrt hal_ax5214h cfg="0x220_iiooiioo"(Copied from demo_mazak) Now I show 56 I/O points in Hal Configuration and Hal Meter under pins.Does this mean it worked I assume? Do I have to modify the driver to get the remainder of the I/O points in pins? Do I need to go ahead and hook up a switch or led to confirm? Thanks, Dave - Original Message - From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 21:36 -0400, Dave Keeton wrote: >> So I have installed the PCI-DIO-96 board in the computer.Ubuntu >> picked >> it up in the Device manager and called it by name.How do I go about >> loading the pci_8255 hal driver, What file do I modify in the config >> directory, How do I know if EMC2 sees the board and its I/O points? >> >> Dave > > If you look in the Integrator's Manual: > > http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/EMC2_Integrator_Manual.pdf > > chapter four indicates that the [HAL] section of the .ini file for the > configuration you are running, has an entry(ies) called "HALFILE =". > These "HALFILE ="'s will list the .hal files that are part of the > initialization for starting your configuration in EMC2. One of these > files will have "loadrt somedriver and_options" in it. You will need a > loadrt entry for your 8255, plus an entry to add the driver to a thread, > something like "addf somedriver name_of_thread". You can do a Find for > addf in the manual to get more information. If you start EMC2 and if the > driver loads properly, you should be able to start Halmeter and see the > new Hal pins in the pin list. > > -- > Kirk Wallace (California, USA > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ > Hardinge HNC/EMC CNC lathe, > Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, > Zubal lathe conversion pending > Craftsman AA 109 restoration > Shizuoka ST-N/EMC CNC) > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver
So I have installed the PCI-DIO-96 board in the computer.Ubuntu picked it up in the Device manager and called it by name.How do I go about loading the pci_8255 hal driver, What file do I modify in the config directory, How do I know if EMC2 sees the board and its I/O points? Dave - Original Message - From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > Well, I looked through the list of drivers and found the ones you are > discussing. I will try them when the board arrives. After researching it a > bit and looking at the board specs, It is an 8255 pci board. Is the hal > driver for the 8255 limited on the I/O? I would like to access all 96 bits > of my board if I can... > > Thanks, > Dave > > - Original Message - > From: "John Kasunich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > > >> Dave Keeton wrote: >>> So do I load the Linux driver for the NI PCI 96 I/O that I downloaded >>> from >>> Nation Instruments, or is this not the driver I need? I am not at all up >>> to >>> speed with doing this on linux/EMC! (Windows GEEK) How would I call the >>> driver, Is it the same way you do for the hardware in the supported >>> hardware >>> list? >>> >>>Dave >>> >>> >> >> You do not use the National Instruments driver. >> >> EMC2 uses "HAL" (Hardware Abstraction Layer) to access hardware. You >> need a HAL driver for the board. EMC2 includes quite a few HAL drivers, >> there have been two mentioned in this thread that might work for that >> board, or that might be suitable as the start of a driver for that board. >> >> Regards, >> >> John Kasunich >> >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver
Well, I looked through the list of drivers and found the ones you are discussing. I will try them when the board arrives. After researching it a bit and looking at the board specs, It is an 8255 pci board. Is the hal driver for the 8255 limited on the I/O? I would like to access all 96 bits of my board if I can... Thanks, Dave - Original Message - From: "John Kasunich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > Dave Keeton wrote: >> So do I load the Linux driver for the NI PCI 96 I/O that I downloaded >> from >> Nation Instruments, or is this not the driver I need? I am not at all up >> to >> speed with doing this on linux/EMC! (Windows GEEK) How would I call the >> driver, Is it the same way you do for the hardware in the supported >> hardware >> list? >> >>Dave >> >> > > You do not use the National Instruments driver. > > EMC2 uses "HAL" (Hardware Abstraction Layer) to access hardware. You > need a HAL driver for the board. EMC2 includes quite a few HAL drivers, > there have been two mentioned in this thread that might work for that > board, or that might be suitable as the start of a driver for that board. > > Regards, > > John Kasunich > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver
So do I load the Linux driver for the NI PCI 96 I/O that I downloaded from Nation Instruments, or is this not the driver I need? I am not at all up to speed with doing this on linux/EMC! (Windows GEEK) How would I call the driver, Is it the same way you do for the hardware in the supported hardware list? Dave - Original Message - From: "sam sokolik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 8255 driver > Yes.. After I added the read funtction to the servo thread. Locked up > almost instantly this time... had enough time to open a halmeter and > pick the pci8255.0.1.a0 pin. As I was fumbling to set the pin high.. > it locked up. This is running trunk. > > Thomas J Powderly wrote: >> Sam, >> On the pci_8255 "hal show pin" you listed, >> did that configuration lock up? >> it had several inputs. >> >> re: >> "By the way... Got I/O? ;)" >> re: >> "If any of the pins are set to inputs - it will hardlock the computer >> after a certain amount of time." >> >> thanks for looking into it >> TomP >> >> >> >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder
This board looks good! I did just buy a new NI DIO 96 board off of EBAY for 50 bucksIf it does'nt work out I'll check it out. I guess i was completely wrong about the I/O situation. You all have been a big helpHow do I go about setting up the drivers for these boards in EMC? I am not all that familiar with Linux Dave - Original Message - From: "Thomas J Powderly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder > to Dave Keeton: > http://www.futurlec.com/PCI8255.shtml > 79$ US > 72 i/o points > pci > emc2 driver is available, "sorta beta" > regards > TomP > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder
Thank you for clearing up the I/O issues...I did'nt realise there were
alot more options.Looking into them now
Dave
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From: "Peter C. Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:53:13 -0700
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>
>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder
>>
>>
>>
>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> From: John Kasunich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder
>> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:17:00 -0400
>>
>> Dave Keeton wrote:
>>> Thats OK Chris...I'm just trying to find a way to expand the I/O
>>> capabilities of EMC. It seems that the servo hardware that has been
>>> chosen
>>> is pretty much limited to 32 ins and 16 outs. Hardly enough for big iron
>>> with pallet and tool changers, quills (W) and indexing and rotary tables
>>> all
>>> on one machine. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place! I will continue
>>> to
>>> look into the MODBUS and keep you posted. My config file is pretty much
>>> identical to yours. When I hooked it up to Mach3 it took about ten
>>> minuetes
>>> to configure everything and it worked great! I just hate tying up I/O
>>> for
>>> things like worklights, chip conveyors and wash down systems when I/O is
>>> in
>>> such short supply. I have one machine at the shop that has 127 inputs
>>> and 72
>>> outputs! What other options are there? None I could find unless you want
>>> to
>>> add 4 Motenc-Lite cards to your system. Hardly cost effective.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>> There are cards out there that simply provide I/O. The Mazak at the CNC
>> workshop as a Motenc card as its primary servo card, and an AX5214H 48
>> channel I/O card for toolchanger stuff. The AX5214 is an ISA card, but
>> there are probably PCI versions available.
>>
>> EMC2 allows you to mix and match any combination of I/O devices, so you
>> don't have to use expensive servo cards if all you need is digital I/O.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Kasunich
>
> If you are using a 5I20 and you just need 12V-36V isolated I/O, we have a
> couple of I/O expanders coming out. First is the 7I64, the 7I64 has 24
> opto
> isolated inputs and 24 isolated 4A MOSFET outputs and connects to the 5I20
> via
> SPI (3 feet max) or 5Mbit/sec RS-485 (~100 feet max cat5). Next is the
> 7I66
> with 80 isolated inputs and the same interface options.
>
> The SPI pinout allows 5 expanders on one 50 pin cable (split into 5x10
> conductor cables)
>
>
> Peter Wallace
> Mesa Electronics
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Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder
Thanks John I looked at the Axiom card and I thought it was ISA only. The only PC I have that has an ISA slot is old AMD K6II 475... It is a little unstable but I might play with it some. So you can use any combo of I/O boards with out conflict? Thanks again, Dave - Original Message - From: "John Kasunich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder > Dave Keeton wrote: >> Thats OK Chris...I'm just trying to find a way to expand the I/O >> capabilities of EMC. It seems that the servo hardware that has been >> chosen >> is pretty much limited to 32 ins and 16 outs. Hardly enough for big iron >> with pallet and tool changers, quills (W) and indexing and rotary tables >> all >> on one machine. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place! I will continue to >> look into the MODBUS and keep you posted. My config file is pretty much >> identical to yours. When I hooked it up to Mach3 it took about ten >> minuetes >> to configure everything and it worked great! I just hate tying up I/O for >> things like worklights, chip conveyors and wash down systems when I/O is >> in >> such short supply. I have one machine at the shop that has 127 inputs and >> 72 >> outputs! What other options are there? None I could find unless you want >> to >> add 4 Motenc-Lite cards to your system. Hardly cost effective. >> >> Dave >> > > There are cards out there that simply provide I/O. The Mazak at the CNC > workshop as a Motenc card as its primary servo card, and an AX5214H 48 > channel I/O card for toolchanger stuff. The AX5214 is an ISA card, but > there are probably PCI versions available. > > EMC2 allows you to mix and match any combination of I/O devices, so you > don't have to use expensive servo cards if all you need is digital I/O. > > Regards, > > John Kasunich > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder
Thats OK Chris...I'm just trying to find a way to expand the I/O capabilities of EMC. It seems that the servo hardware that has been chosen is pretty much limited to 32 ins and 16 outs. Hardly enough for big iron with pallet and tool changers, quills (W) and indexing and rotary tables all on one machine. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place! I will continue to look into the MODBUS and keep you posted. My config file is pretty much identical to yours. When I hooked it up to Mach3 it took about ten minuetes to configure everything and it worked great! I just hate tying up I/O for things like worklights, chip conveyors and wash down systems when I/O is in such short supply. I have one machine at the shop that has 127 inputs and 72 outputs! What other options are there? None I could find unless you want to add 4 Motenc-Lite cards to your system. Hardly cost effective. Dave - Original Message - From: "Chris Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder > > I'm sorry Dave I have done next to no testing-I was hoping you could tell > me! > as per docs there is no parity used. speed and port must be set in config > file to use the serial port . > Have you tried this successfully with the original (not for emc) > Classicladder? (I think I remember you saying you did..) > > I assume you used something like this in your config file: > > MODBUS_MASTER_SERIAL_PORT=/dev/ttyS0 > ###MODBUS_MASTER_SERIAL_PORT= > MODBUS_MASTER_SERIAL_SPEED=38400 > MODBUS_MASTER_SERIAL_USE_RTS_TO_SEND=0 > MODBUS_MASTER_TIME_INTER_FRAME=200 > MODBUS_MASTER_TIME_OUT_RECEIPT=500 > MODBUS_MASTER_TIME_AFTER_TRANSMIT=0 > > When you open the config window do you see the (some) data you entered in > the config file (under modbus distributed i/o heading)? > Did you map the modbus address to an input/output variable? (done in the > same window as above) > > I will try to help as much as I can -i'm working long night shifts right > now... > Chris Morley > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:45:11 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder >> >> Chris, >> >> I have the baud rate set correctly..and the port.what >> about stop bits and parity for the serial port? I can change it in my >> device >> but I am not sure what classic ladder is looking for..I have it >> hooked >> up with some input bits being triggered and I get nothing from/to >> classicladder. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Chris Morley" >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder >> >> >>> >>> Classicladder version 7.124 is in CVS TRUNK and MODBUS should work as >>> the >>> stand alone version except for there HAS to be a CONFIG file loaded with >>> the classicladder userspace program. The CONFIG file could be empty-it >>> is >>> used to tell Classicladder to start MODBUS. >>> eg. loadusr -w classicladder --config=testmod example.clp >>> I have not tested beyond seeing messages sent complaining about not >>> connecting (there was no hardware set up so was expecting this). >>> I had no hardware available and now am very busy for a couple months >>> away >>> at work. >>> Whether Modbus support is enabled in EMC 2.3 is up to you/and or the >>> lead >>> developers . If the lead developers don't want it enabled by default , >>> then I see no reason to not make it available by recompiling. >>> If you do try the TRUNK version anytime soon please let me know how it >>> works >>> >>> I apoligize as this is the only docs I have made so far: >>> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ClassicLadder_Ver_7.124 >>> >>> cheers Chris Morley >>> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:17:16 -0400 Subject: [Emc-users] Classicladder Just to clarify, Has MODBUS been enabled in classicladder in the latest EMC release? If so, how exactly do you enable it? I understand how to enable it in TCP in but I haven't quite figured out the serial in the stand alone version.Can some one point me to a reference for how to set up the config file, I thought it was supposed to be 9502 for the serial but this locks up classic ladder. Has anyone done this in either the stand alone version of classicladder or with EMC. I am using the latest versions of both. A documented example would help. I know the device I am using works because I use this with Mach 3 in windows with no issues. Thanks in advance, Dave >>> >>> _ >>> Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the >>> le
Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder
Chris, I have the baud rate set correctly..and the port.what about stop bits and parity for the serial port? I can change it in my device but I am not sure what classic ladder is looking for..I have it hooked up with some input bits being triggered and I get nothing from/to classicladder. - Original Message - From: "Chris Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder > > Classicladder version 7.124 is in CVS TRUNK and MODBUS should work as the > stand alone version except for there HAS to be a CONFIG file loaded with > the classicladder userspace program. The CONFIG file could be empty-it is > used to tell Classicladder to start MODBUS. > eg. loadusr -w classicladder --config=testmod example.clp > I have not tested beyond seeing messages sent complaining about not > connecting (there was no hardware set up so was expecting this). > I had no hardware available and now am very busy for a couple months away > at work. > Whether Modbus support is enabled in EMC 2.3 is up to you/and or the lead > developers . If the lead developers don't want it enabled by default , > then I see no reason to not make it available by recompiling. > If you do try the TRUNK version anytime soon please let me know how it > works > > I apoligize as this is the only docs I have made so far: > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ClassicLadder_Ver_7.124 > > cheers Chris Morley > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:17:16 -0400 >> Subject: [Emc-users] Classicladder >> >> Just to clarify, Has MODBUS been enabled in classicladder in the latest >> EMC release? If so, how exactly do you enable it? I understand how to >> enable it in TCP in but I haven't quite figured out the serial in the >> stand alone version.Can some one point me to a reference for how to >> set up the config file, I thought it was supposed to be 9502 for the >> serial but this locks up classic ladder. Has anyone done this in either >> the stand alone version of classicladder or with EMC. I am using the >> latest versions of both. A documented example would help. I know the >> device I am using works because I use this with Mach 3 in windows with no >> issues. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Dave > > _ > Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the > letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! > http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder
I remember tailking to Chris about this some time ago.I will see if I can get it to work, And let you know how it goes..I ordered the Mesa 5i20 board a few moments ago On another note, I am seeing a few machines with tool changers showing upAre you guys using classicladder to run the tool changer? Dave - Original Message - From: "Chris Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder > > Classicladder version 7.124 is in CVS TRUNK and MODBUS should work as the > stand alone version except for there HAS to be a CONFIG file loaded with > the classicladder userspace program. The CONFIG file could be empty-it is > used to tell Classicladder to start MODBUS. > eg. loadusr -w classicladder --config=testmod example.clp > I have not tested beyond seeing messages sent complaining about not > connecting (there was no hardware set up so was expecting this). > I had no hardware available and now am very busy for a couple months away > at work. > Whether Modbus support is enabled in EMC 2.3 is up to you/and or the lead > developers . If the lead developers don't want it enabled by default , > then I see no reason to not make it available by recompiling. > If you do try the TRUNK version anytime soon please let me know how it > works > > I apoligize as this is the only docs I have made so far: > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ClassicLadder_Ver_7.124 > > cheers Chris Morley > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:17:16 -0400 >> Subject: [Emc-users] Classicladder >> >> Just to clarify, Has MODBUS been enabled in classicladder in the latest >> EMC release? If so, how exactly do you enable it? I understand how to >> enable it in TCP in but I haven't quite figured out the serial in the >> stand alone version.Can some one point me to a reference for how to >> set up the config file, I thought it was supposed to be 9502 for the >> serial but this locks up classic ladder. Has anyone done this in either >> the stand alone version of classicladder or with EMC. I am using the >> latest versions of both. A documented example would help. I know the >> device I am using works because I use this with Mach 3 in windows with no >> issues. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Dave > > _ > Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the > letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! > http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Classicladder
Just to clarify, Has MODBUS been enabled in classicladder in the latest EMC release? If so, how exactly do you enable it? I understand how to enable it in TCP in but I haven't quite figured out the serial in the stand alone version.Can some one point me to a reference for how to set up the config file, I thought it was supposed to be 9502 for the serial but this locks up classic ladder. Has anyone done this in either the stand alone version of classicladder or with EMC. I am using the latest versions of both. A documented example would help. I know the device I am using works because I use this with Mach 3 in windows with no issues. Thanks in advance, Dave - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Mesa Electronics 5i20
Any have info on this board? Can you use this to give more I/O along with another card such as Motenc-Lite for servos? Are there other options to handle I/O not related to servos or spindle? Dave - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers
Kirk, You are correct, This actually done with with a cam. The turret reaches position and then reverses direction for 50ms. This allows a solonoid fired locking pin to disengage. The pin is used to locate the turret on position while the curvic coupling is engaged to lock it in position. The squence goes like this.. 1. Unclamp the turret and engage the motor starter for say clockwise rotation 2. When the turret is in between the called tool and the position before it, engaged the locking pin and let it ride on the cam ring. 3. When the turret reaches the called tool, the locking pin drops into the cam ring slot to stop the turret. A proximity switch is used to confirm this has happened. Clockwise starter disengages. 4. Counter clockwise motor starter is engaged for 50ms to allow the locking pin to retract and the indexing pin to engage in its hole. Proxy switches are used to confirm both has happened. 5. The motor counter clockwise starter disengages, the motor brake is applied, then the turret clamps into to the coupling and the index pin is retracted. 6. The tool position is reported to the CNC software and the proper tool offset is called up. 7. Cycle complete. As the turret rotates a 200ms timer is used between each tool position to drop out the motor if a collision occurs during rotation. The timer is reset while passing each tool position during rotation. Most electric turrets have a thermal cut out on the motor to protect it from being damaged if a collision occurs. There are 6 bits on the encoder... TPS 1,2,3,4,Parity and Strobe the first 4 are positional Bits, Parity is used to confirm The first 4 bits are correct and strobe is fired once per tool position. Dave - Original Message - From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers > On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 20:50 -0500, Dave Keeton wrote: >> Our Mazak Lathe has a turret that uses a belville spring washers in a >> friction brake. The nice thing about it is that when a collision occurs >> the >> turret is pretty easy to get back on centerline. It uses a shot pin to >> locate that is pulled back out when it is clamped. It is hydraulic >> though.It has live tooling also.we never use the live tooling >> except >> tapping every so often.. If you use pins to locate and hold the tool >> drum in place it is more difficult to align after collision.I am not >> to >> sure about the disc brake idea.Seems like tool pressure might make it >> slipcould be dangerous in a power failure also.. >> >> Dave > > So is the turret located by engaging a pin, setting a brake and then > retracting the pin so that only the brake friction holds the turret > position during machining? I assumed that with a tool crash that you > would either break the tool, holder or turret. > > Rumor has it that a small lathe tool changer is available from Emco > which can be seen at the bottom of the page here: > > http://www.emco.co.uk/pct55.htm > > I hear that it has a pawl on the turret drive shaft. The turret motor > drives the turret until the pawl falls into the location for the desired > tool. It then reverses against the pawl to lock it, take out all slop > and get the final position. The turret rotates in a direction such that > the cutting forces are also against the pawl, but apparently the pawl > can flex under heavy cuts. This design has the advantage of being very > simple, maybe even elegant. > -- > Kirk Wallace (California, USA > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ > Hardinge HNC lathe, > Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, > Zubal lathe conversion pending) > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers
Our Mazak Lathe has a turret that uses a belville spring washers in a friction brake. The nice thing about it is that when a collision occurs the turret is pretty easy to get back on centerline. It uses a shot pin to locate that is pulled back out when it is clamped. It is hydraulic though.It has live tooling also.we never use the live tooling except tapping every so often.. If you use pins to locate and hold the tool drum in place it is more difficult to align after collision.I am not to sure about the disc brake idea.Seems like tool pressure might make it slipcould be dangerous in a power failure also.. Dave - Original Message - From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers > On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 19:29 -0500, Jim Coleman wrote: >> what about sliding a pin into the turret when its in place to lock it? >> then no lifting is needed, just rotate about it's axis and lock. >> maybe pins coming in from the sides in multiple locations to help >> rigidity? a mechanism similar to the self centering thing on tap >> wrenches, the outward spiral type guide... then you rotate that ring >> to engage the pins... taper the entrance to the pin holes on the >> turret to allow it to pull into place if it's indexing isnt the >> greatest. I would try to rough out a quick drawing to try to help >> depict my thoughts but i guess i dont have any cad installed on this >> computer, so i hope you're able to visualize what im trying to >> describe. it actually looks kinda purdy inside my head, assuming the >> mechanism would actually work. > > The problem I have with sliding pins, is that to have the pins slide > there must be at least some clearance in the location system. That's why > I like the Hardinge system. I found a similar changer here: > > http://www.issintl-inc.com/latheturret/ > >> on a side note... when you huys see HAL, do you think of it as 3 >> letters, like LED or SUV, or d oyou think of it as a single word, like >> the name... kinda like shallow Hal? noticed you referred to it as >> "an HAL module" and i usually think "a HAL module" which would imply >> it's being said as if it were a name. Not like it really matters, >> just the thoughts churning in my head >> >> Jim > > I tend to think of HAL as a form of the term "Hardware Abstraction > Layer", so I felt obligated to say "an HAL module". But now that I think > about it, HAL doesn't seem to describe a particular entity. Whereas Hal > might be thought of as the application of HAL concepts to a subsystem > within EMC. You got me on this one. I'll watch to see if there any > compelling arguments either way. > > Now that you mentioned it. I noticed some people using "than" when I > would expect "then". > -- > Kirk Wallace (California, USA > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ > Hardinge HNC lathe, > Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, > Zubal lathe conversion pending) > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers
On the two direction motion thing, Both Barrafaldi and Duplomatic will work in both directionsI programmed mine to take the shortest route to the called up tool..There is more to this than just rotating a tool into place. You should be able to call up the tool like this. Say it is on tool #3 and you want to go to tool #8 with offset #4..Your command would be T0804.The turret should unclamp and rotate the shortest route to tool #8, clamp the turret and load the offset #4 to the cnc softwareWith an electric turret this is a pretty easy thing to do providing the control (Ladder) has the compare function and the cnc side of the software can read ladder data tables to get its tool offset from... Dave - Original Message - From: Jim Coleman To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers what about sliding a pin into the turret when its in place to lock it? then no lifting is needed, just rotate about it's axis and lock. maybe pins coming in from the sides in multiple locations to help rigidity? a mechanism similar to the self centering thing on tap wrenches, the outward spiral type guide... then you rotate that ring to engage the pins... taper the entrance to the pin holes on the turret to allow it to pull into place if it's indexing isnt the greatest. I would try to rough out a quick drawing to try to help depict my thoughts but i guess i dont have any cad installed on this computer, so i hope you're able to visualize what im trying to describe. it actually looks kinda purdy inside my head, assuming the mechanism would actually work. on a side note... when you huys see HAL, do you think of it as 3 letters, like LED or SUV, or d oyou think of it as a single word, like the name... kinda like shallow Hal? noticed you referred to it as "an HAL module" and i usually think "a HAL module" which would imply it's being said as if it were a name. Not like it really matters, just the thoughts churning in my head Jim On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Kirk Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 17:05 -0500, Dave Keeton wrote: > If it is like a Barrafaldi or a Duplomatic I can help..I have installed > both of these...It looks alot like them and I would assume they use the > same kind of encoder. Reading the encoder is fairly easy using ladder, If > you happen to have FAPT Ladder III editing software I can send you what I > wrote for this. I installed a Duplomatic turret on a Fanuc 21i TB controlled > lathe about 6 months ago. Alot of these turrets are built and operate pretty > much the same. I can get you the time and operation sequence if you need it. > Timing on these turrets is critical. Control (including propagation delay) > should be very accurate to +- 10ms or it will mis-index. What questions do > you have? I have my Hardinge HNC turret working through an HAL module. Part of what makes EMC and HAL so cool is that it allows someone with my skills to make it work. I am looking for general design examples, in order to try to come up with a design for lathe tool changers for Sherline and bench-top class machines. The issues that are bothering me now are how to stop the turret in eight positions, with high accuracy and rigidity. The Hardinge accomplishes this by having just one broad and short zero clearance interface between the movable turret table and the carriage. Plus a pneumatic piston which clamps evenly across the table. I won't be using pneumatics, so I can't utilize the Hardinge design for clamping. And the other examples I have seen don't have the two direction motion (rise rotate, park) of the Hardinge, suggesting a different internal design altogether. Checking the Barufaldi and Duplomatic links: http://www.baruffaldi.it/eng/interne/prodotti/macchine_utensili/index.html http://www.duplomatic.com/duplomatic/auto/uk/2/frame2.html reminded me that I need to worry about live tooling too. ;) -- Kirk Wallace (California, USA http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ Hardinge HNC lathe, Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, Zubal lathe conversion pending) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- --
Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers
Kirk, I believe this turret will only lock in one of the 8 tool positions due to the internal mechanism. It probably has a Curvic Coupling to locate it. The electric turrets in my experience and my situation (I have about 8 of these in my shop) are much more reliable than the hydraulic and pnumatic models. Dave - Original Message - From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers >I would like to get more information on the tool changer on this lathe. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1982-TOS-Engine-Lathe_W0QQitemZ180221313534 > > I am thinking a Sherline class changer of this type might be a good > thing. > > I am trying to figure out generally how they work. Does anyone have > links to this or similar changers? > > I can see using a planetary gear and electric motor to rotate the head. > Then using pins or a notched plate to lock it. One of the details that > bothers me is, can I use ball bearings as part of the turret locating > system during machining, or will the tool and table locking forces wear > divots in the races? The Hardinge turret floats during a tool change, > then parks on a notched plate, but doing this electrically instead of > pneumatically would be a challenge. The changer above, I believe doesn't > float. Plus I wounder if it can be located at intermediate positions or > only lock in one of eight positions. Thanks for any help. > -- > Kirk Wallace (California, USA > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ > Hardinge HNC lathe, > Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, > Zubal lathe conversion pending) > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers
If it is like a Barrafaldi or a Duplomatic I can help..I have installed both of these...It looks alot like them and I would assume they use the same kind of encoder. Reading the encoder is fairly easy using ladder, If you happen to have FAPT Ladder III editing software I can send you what I wrote for this. I installed a Duplomatic turret on a Fanuc 21i TB controlled lathe about 6 months ago. Alot of these turrets are built and operate pretty much the same. I can get you the time and operation sequence if you need it. Timing on these turrets is critical. Control (including propagation delay) should be very accurate to +- 10ms or it will mis-index. What questions do you have? - Original Message - From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Powerdex Tool Changers >I would like to get more information on the tool changer on this lathe. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1982-TOS-Engine-Lathe_W0QQitemZ180221313534 > > I am thinking a Sherline class changer of this type might be a good > thing. > > I am trying to figure out generally how they work. Does anyone have > links to this or similar changers? > > I can see using a planetary gear and electric motor to rotate the head. > Then using pins or a notched plate to lock it. One of the details that > bothers me is, can I use ball bearings as part of the turret locating > system during machining, or will the tool and table locking forces wear > divots in the races? The Hardinge turret floats during a tool change, > then parks on a notched plate, but doing this electrically instead of > pneumatically would be a challenge. The changer above, I believe doesn't > float. Plus I wounder if it can be located at intermediate positions or > only lock in one of eight positions. Thanks for any help. > -- > Kirk Wallace (California, USA > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ > Hardinge HNC lathe, > Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, > Zubal lathe conversion pending) > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LInuxCNC laptops
I have a Dell Inspiron 2600 Pentium III with 384 Megs of ram. It is setup as a dual boot - Linux/EMC2.1 BDI and Windows XP Home. It runs my stepper drivers just fine out of the printer port. I bought it new about 5 years ago or so. Dave - Original Message - From: Marcin Jakubowski To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LInuxCNC laptops Thanks for the responses on EMC laptops. But surely there must be at least one specific laptop that does work? Is there any success story out there at ALL for a working laptop? Marcin On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Jason Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Only problem is that Printer ports are not addressed the same on PCMCIA cards and with EMC2 we talk direct to the address and not via a driver. I dont think this solution would work. Jason On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 15:07 -0600, Jack wrote: > In general, laptops are not a good idea. Many of the inexpensive ones > are doing away with 'legacy' ports. > I would suggest, whatever you get, get one with a PCCard slot, and get > a PCCard that has a printer port on it. > Actually, I would want two of the cards, just in case one gets > fried :( > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cordax CMM
What brand is it? Dave - Original Message - From: "Stuart Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cordax CMM >> Accurate Measureing Systems in St. Louis repairs these. They do all of >> my >> scale work. There is no one better on these scales. Contact Ed and tell >> him >> that Dave from Eagle Tool sent you. He has completely rebuilt scales and >> tested them for $90.00 bucks before. (Depends on the unit) He has more >> spare >> parts than the OEM. He also has some used units for cheap. >> >> Dave >> > > Dave, >I called AMS in St Louis. They don't work on this brand of > CMM/DRO. They offered to look at it for me. >I will try to fix it here. I have a manual with a theory of > operation description and schematics for the boards. I am sure we can > make it work. It looks as if all the chips are available off the > shelf. > thanks > Stuart > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cordax CMM
This is very trueDoh! I thought it was kind of hard to get that bulb in between the scale section and the read head with only a .006" gap! Sorry Dave - Original Message - From: "Jon Elson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cordax CMM > Dave Keeton wrote: >> Are these inductosyn scales or A quad B type? > Inductosyns will not have light bulbs in them. > > Jon > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cordax CMM
Another point.If these are Tape scales, The biggest issue you will have is cleanliness. We have for CMM machines, 2 are servo driven and 2 are manual. If you have tape scales try claning them with denatured alcohol and a lint free cloth. This will fix most scale issues on this type. The read heads on these scales must be tuned with a scope in X-Y mode. All of our CMM's have tape scales. Dave - Original Message - From: "Stuart Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "EMC2-Users-List" Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:35 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Cordax CMM > Gentlemen, >Another project, another question. >I bought an old Sheffield Cordax manual CMM. This is supposed to > replace a surface plate and height gages. Our inspectors have > experience with manual CMM's. They are looking forward to using it > instead of height gages. >This was supposed to be a running machine. It was running "after a > fashion". The DRO always shows fault lights. When the EMC men were > here we got it functioning. While using it we find one scale will > count correct sometimes, other times it will only count in one > direction and other times it counts up when the axis is moved in > either direction. On another board a trim pot will sometimes short and > sometimes work correct and sometime open. >I identify with age problems. Sometimes things work and sometimes > they don't. >Needless to say this does not inspire confidence in the machine. >I replaced the bulbs in the scale read heads. I have a good signal > into the DRO from each scale. >Sheffield has the replacement parts BUT the expense is incredible. > The bulbs, just the little bulbs not the read head, were $160.00 each. > I haven't priced the amplifier/converter board. I am afraid to. I > don't think I even want to know. >SO >The scale feedback to the DRO is four wires with a sin wave on > each. These are supposed to be 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrees. Is there a > way to convert the sin wave into a pulse? If I can convert the sin > wave to a pulse I will hook two of the pulse signals from each axis to > a soft encoder in EMC2 and have an EMC2 CMM. >At this time it would be just a DRO. Maybe we could add functions > later ie. coordinate system rotation, etc... >All help, comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated. > thanks > Stuart > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cordax CMM
Are these inductosyn scales or A quad B type? Inductosyn scales usually have a board that converts the signal to A quad B. The signal is like a resolver, Sine/Cosine. A quad B scales (Like a glass scale) have a A/Not A - B/Not B signal. The black box (or EXE box) controls the signal amplitude and monitors the bulb on the reader for the glass scale. The EXE box does a little more than that but thats the nuts and bolts of it. Most controls want to see the A quad B type pulses. This is how they can track direction, position and speed. Glass scales give a feed back like a hand held OEM mpg unit. Dave - Original Message - From: "Stuart Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "EMC2-Users-List" Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:35 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Cordax CMM > Gentlemen, >Another project, another question. >I bought an old Sheffield Cordax manual CMM. This is supposed to > replace a surface plate and height gages. Our inspectors have > experience with manual CMM's. They are looking forward to using it > instead of height gages. >This was supposed to be a running machine. It was running "after a > fashion". The DRO always shows fault lights. When the EMC men were > here we got it functioning. While using it we find one scale will > count correct sometimes, other times it will only count in one > direction and other times it counts up when the axis is moved in > either direction. On another board a trim pot will sometimes short and > sometimes work correct and sometime open. >I identify with age problems. Sometimes things work and sometimes > they don't. >Needless to say this does not inspire confidence in the machine. >I replaced the bulbs in the scale read heads. I have a good signal > into the DRO from each scale. >Sheffield has the replacement parts BUT the expense is incredible. > The bulbs, just the little bulbs not the read head, were $160.00 each. > I haven't priced the amplifier/converter board. I am afraid to. I > don't think I even want to know. >SO >The scale feedback to the DRO is four wires with a sin wave on > each. These are supposed to be 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrees. Is there a > way to convert the sin wave into a pulse? If I can convert the sin > wave to a pulse I will hook two of the pulse signals from each axis to > a soft encoder in EMC2 and have an EMC2 CMM. >At this time it would be just a DRO. Maybe we could add functions > later ie. coordinate system rotation, etc... >All help, comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated. > thanks > Stuart > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cordax CMM
Accurate Measureing Systems in St. Louis repairs these. They do all of my scale work. There is no one better on these scales. Contact Ed and tell him that Dave from Eagle Tool sent you. He has completely rebuilt scales and tested them for $90.00 bucks before. (Depends on the unit) He has more spare parts than the OEM. He also has some used units for cheap. Dave - Original Message - From: "Chris Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cordax CMM > > I am certainly not an expert but have read quite a bit-others can correct > me > hmm . From what I remember Heidenhain takes those four signals and > superimposes them into two signals. This creates a sin wave on each wire > pair (of two pairs) that cross zero. Then you can get a black box that > converts that to quadrature. Basically the photodiodes are wired together- > in parallel -and in opposite polarity. This creates a push-pull signal > (which is the two signals superimposed). There are two such signal > 'groups', offset so as to create a quadrature relationship. > > There are two types of sin signals that are common current (11-16 micro > amps) and voltage (1vpp). > When you say there are four wires does that mean four wires with a common > ground or four sets of wires (two for each signal)? > > The other question is what about replacing the encoders with something > more common (like from ebay)? What are the lengths and accuracy needed? > > Just for reference if you can wire your encoders to create standard sin > signals the 'black box' to convert to square waves would cost aprox. $50 > from ebay (oem price is something like $800 or more ) . They come in a > variety of signal multiplying options. > > my $.002 > > Chris Morley > >> Sheffield has the replacement parts BUT the expense is incredible. >> The bulbs, just the little bulbs not the read head, were $160.00 each. >> I haven't priced the amplifier/converter board. I am afraid to. I >> don't think I even want to know. >> SO >> The scale feedback to the DRO is four wires with a sin wave on >> each. These are supposed to be 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrees. Is there a >> way to convert the sin wave into a pulse? If I can convert the sin >> wave to a pulse I will hook two of the pulse signals from each axis to >> a soft encoder in EMC2 and have an EMC2 CMM. >> > > _ > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] not recognized motenc-lite card
I have installed the same board with no problems, Running on the following. Pentium4, 2ghz Dell Diminsion 8200 with 768megs of ram. First I installed the card with default jumper settings and then loaded EMC 2.2.2. All I/Os work fine. It should be set for board ID "0".EMC will not run at all with the board removed using the Motenc config files. You should get error messages.Did you also buy the 8/16 I/O boards and the analog card? Dave Keeton - Original Message - From: Dave Engvall To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] not recognized motenc-lite card Hi, You might try checking the board ID jumpers; it looks like both need to be in place for board 0. I don't have a -Lite board but do have the 8 channel board. Try starting emc with the board not installed and see if you get a message something like "board not found" or "board not installed". Usually almost the last thing in the error window. Then check the jumpers, install the board and go again. The "Lite" board was used in the Mazak conversion at Fest and worked quite well. Check the wiki for more information on the conversion. Good luck. Dave On Feb 21, 2008, at 12:52 PM, cnc eafit wrote: Hi there I just bought a Motenc-lite card that is suposoused to be supported by linuxcnc. But when I booted the system it does not come up. I'm totally lost I've been unable to find documentation to fix the problem. thanks in advance CARD: MOTENC-Lite 4 axes PCI MOTION & I/O control board linuxcnc installed form the lastest cd and updated to 2.2.3 lspci :02:07.0 Bridge: PLX Technology, Inc.: Unknown device 3001 (rev 01) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card.
Hi Chris, I am using the cd download for my system. I have not downloaded EMC with CVS. I will try the side by side test and see what happens Dave - Original Message - From: "Chris Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:15:50 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. >> >> Chris, >> >>I will see if I can get it working on classic ladder again and >> send you my config file. >> > > Thanks Dave all sounds good. I'm having some problems loading ladder > programs properly so there are some problems yet. > One thing to note is that the MODBUS in CL. would not be realtime so > latency may be a problem when u have a realtime program running. You maybe > able to replicate this by running EMC and the original Classicladder side > by side and watch the response time. Have u down loaded EMC with CVS or > are u using the standard method (cd or binary download)? Thank you for the > info. I appreciate the encouragement -I'll try my best. > > Cheers Chris Morley > > _ > > > - > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card.
Chris, I will see if I can get it working on classic ladder again and send you my config file. Dave - Original Message - From: "Dave Keeton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. > Hi Chris, > > I used the default port 9502, which is the serial port. > Please see the classic ladder readme file I have attached. The hardware is > a > Comfile technologies Cubloc CB290. The CB290 has built in modbus > capabilities. It has been a while since I have done this but classic > ladder > uses %B and %W bits and words tied directly to modbus registers. I do > remember following the classic ladder documentation and getting it working > with little effort. I don't remember specifying the port on the command > line > but I remember setting it in the config screen for classic ladder once it > was running. I don't believe that the config screen in the EMC port is > working right. When I close it all of the classic ladder windows close > when > EMC2.2 is running. I think the classic ladder docs say you can do it on > the command line though. I would be happy to test this on my hardware if > you > would like. I greatly appreciate your efforts in this. On the cubloc all I > did was enable the modbus and enable the outputs to turn on (Outputs are > not > allowed on the CB290 till you do this). Baud rate I believe was 115200 > with > 8N1 parity and stop bits. I saw no latency issues with classic ladder. > Through-put seem to be instant. The cubloc follows standard modbus > protocol. > >Thanks, > Dave > > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. > > >> >> Hi Dave. Could you tell me how u configured Classicladder to use the >> MODBUS interface? Did you need to specify the port on the comandline? The >> first leg of adaption is going well (meaning classicladder V7.123 starts >> and works with HAL pins) but I dont have any MODBUS equipment right now, >> so I need to know what u used to make it work. Did you use a serial port? >> As soon as i feel the program is functioning properly I will see about >> putting it in CVS though I need to talk to the other developers about >> whether making a new branch for this version is the way to go. >> >> Cheers Chris Morley >> >> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:00:58 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. >>> >>> Thank youusing modbus through classic ladder is all I want to >>> do..I have the hardware and all I need is a way to patch it through >>> classic ladder. My plan is to use the Motenc Lite I/O points for timing >>> critical functions such as home switches, E-Stop and Overtravel Switches >>> and >>> the like and use modbus I/O points through classic ladder for operator >>> push >>> buttons for mode and jog functions. Weather EMC actually looks at the >>> modbus >>> points is not an issue as I can use classic ladder outputs to feed >>> signals >>> to EMC. I plan to use only digital I/O through modbus so if anyone can >>> get >>> classic ladder to read modbus I/O the rest would be easy...This >>> would >>> give us almost infinite (relatively speaking) I/O. The device I have >>> worked >>> well in Mach3 so it should'nt be an issue. It also works with the stand >>> alone version of Classic Ladder. It is a Cubloc CB290 from Comfile >>> Technology. Look it up, It is pretty slick. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Kirk Wallace" >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:42 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. >>> >>> >>>> On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 21:16 +, Chris Morley wrote: >>>>> Modbus is not available in EMC's adaption of Classicladder. >>>>> I am currently trying to adapt the newest version of >>>>> Classicladder 7.123 and include modbus suppo
Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card.
Hi Chris, I used the default port 9502, which is the serial port. Please see the classic ladder readme file I have attached. The hardware is a Comfile technologies Cubloc CB290. The CB290 has built in modbus capabilities. It has been a while since I have done this but classic ladder uses %B and %W bits and words tied directly to modbus registers. I do remember following the classic ladder documentation and getting it working with little effort. I don't remember specifying the port on the command line but I remember setting it in the config screen for classic ladder once it was running. I don't believe that the config screen in the EMC port is working right. When I close it all of the classic ladder windows close when EMC2.2 is running. I think the classic ladder docs say you can do it on the command line though. I would be happy to test this on my hardware if you would like. I greatly appreciate your efforts in this. On the cubloc all I did was enable the modbus and enable the outputs to turn on (Outputs are not allowed on the CB290 till you do this). Baud rate I believe was 115200 with 8N1 parity and stop bits. I saw no latency issues with classic ladder. Through-put seem to be instant. The cubloc follows standard modbus protocol. Thanks, Dave - Original Message - From: "Chris Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. Hi Dave. Could you tell me how u configured Classicladder to use the MODBUS interface? Did you need to specify the port on the comandline? The first leg of adaption is going well (meaning classicladder V7.123 starts and works with HAL pins) but I dont have any MODBUS equipment right now, so I need to know what u used to make it work. Did you use a serial port? As soon as i feel the program is functioning properly I will see about putting it in CVS though I need to talk to the other developers about whether making a new branch for this version is the way to go. Cheers Chris Morley From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:00:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. Thank youusing modbus through classic ladder is all I want to do..I have the hardware and all I need is a way to patch it through classic ladder. My plan is to use the Motenc Lite I/O points for timing critical functions such as home switches, E-Stop and Overtravel Switches and the like and use modbus I/O points through classic ladder for operator push buttons for mode and jog functions. Weather EMC actually looks at the modbus points is not an issue as I can use classic ladder outputs to feed signals to EMC. I plan to use only digital I/O through modbus so if anyone can get classic ladder to read modbus I/O the rest would be easy...This would give us almost infinite (relatively speaking) I/O. The device I have worked well in Mach3 so it should'nt be an issue. It also works with the stand alone version of Classic Ladder. It is a Cubloc CB290 from Comfile Technology. Look it up, It is pretty slick. Dave - Original Message - From: "Kirk Wallace" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 21:16 +, Chris Morley wrote: Modbus is not available in EMC's adaption of Classicladder. I am currently trying to adapt the newest version of Classicladder 7.123 and include modbus support. Thanks Chris and Jeff, for clarifying this. I did learn some things in trying to figure it out. -- Kirk Wallace (California, USA http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ Hardinge HNC lathe, Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, Zubal lathe conversion pending) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon! http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig ---
Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card.
Thank youusing modbus through classic ladder is all I want to do..I have the hardware and all I need is a way to patch it through classic ladder. My plan is to use the Motenc Lite I/O points for timing critical functions such as home switches, E-Stop and Overtravel Switches and the like and use modbus I/O points through classic ladder for operator push buttons for mode and jog functions. Weather EMC actually looks at the modbus points is not an issue as I can use classic ladder outputs to feed signals to EMC. I plan to use only digital I/O through modbus so if anyone can get classic ladder to read modbus I/O the rest would be easy...This would give us almost infinite (relatively speaking) I/O. The device I have worked well in Mach3 so it should'nt be an issue. It also works with the stand alone version of Classic Ladder. It is a Cubloc CB290 from Comfile Technology. Look it up, It is pretty slick. Dave - Original Message - From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. > On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 21:16 +, Chris Morley wrote: >> Modbus is not available in EMC's adaption of Classicladder. >> I am currently trying to adapt the newest version of >> Classicladder 7.123 and include modbus support. > > Thanks Chris and Jeff, for clarifying this. I did learn some things in > trying to figure it out. > > -- > Kirk Wallace (California, USA > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ > Hardinge HNC lathe, > Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now, > Zubal lathe conversion pending) > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card.
How did you get it to work with EMC2.2.2? Dave - Original Message - From: "Peter Homann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 7:32 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Additional I/O Modbus card. > Hi, > > Just a quick not before I head bush for the Christmas camping trip. > > For additional I/O via Modbus have a look at the ModIO. It has discrete > inputs > and outputs, analog inputs, a 20x4 character LCD interface, plus a few > other > interfaces. > > http://homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=4 > > Currently I have been adding toolchanger modules including one for the > EMCO > toolchanger and one for a Hardinge toolchanger. > > Cheers, > > Peter. > > -- > -- > Web: www.homanndesigns.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone: +61 421 601 665 > www.homanndesigns.com/ModIO.html - Modbus Interface Unit > www.homanndesigns.com/DigiSpeedDeal.html - DC Spindle control > www.homanndesigns.com/TurboTaig.html - Taig Mill Upgrade board > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How would I go about.......
Would like to tie in pushbuttons for jog and such...Do I use halui? What would I need to insert into my io file to make it fly? Paul- SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. Let it simplify your IT future. http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/8857-50307-18918-4___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] starting a new project
Nope, Sorry..I am from Springfield, Ohio - Original Message - From: "Stuart Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] starting a new project > Are you the Dave Keeton that used to work at Thayer St. Louis? > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
I heard that! I know what it's like to be busy! I would like to use it when you get it finished.I used a Comfile Technologies Cubloc 290 in mach 3 this way and it worked good.96 I/O points for about $150.00 good! Dave - Original Message - From: "Stephen Wille Padnos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project > Dave Keeton wrote: > >>Fantastic...The new version of classic ladder has the modbus option in the >>config. But the version with EMC 2.1.7 does not have this. This could open >>up alot of I/O for me for a solid operators station. Can the classic >>ladder >>in EMC be upgraded? If you could check the inputs in classic ladder I >>could >>turn the pushbutton lights on without tieing up I/O points on my Motenc >>card. I would like to save these for machine critical functions like >>overtravel switches and home switches. If the status of these inputs could >>sent to emc then I could use them to switch modes etc. >> >> > The driver I have just exports HAL pins, so you could connect them to > whatever you want, including classic ladder. > > I haven't looked at the CL code, so I'm not sure what would need to be > done to get modbus support back into the EMC2 version. I may look at > that as well, but I'm not exactly looking forward to that part, so I may > be lazy and not do it :) > I have an interest in getting serial, ethernet, and USB drivers that > work in at least pseudo-realtime, but it's not the highest thing on my > priority list at the moment. > > - Steve > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
Are you talking about an interface outside of Classic ladder? Remember I am a newbie at emc. Dave - Original Message - From: "Stephen Wille Padnos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project > Dave Keeton wrote: > >> Question - I know that classic ladder has modbus capability. Even >> though EMC does'nt use it, can classic ladder use it for additional >> I/O points for switches and coils? > > Darned good question. > > It won't matter for long. I have a userspace hal<->modbus interface > working. It's specific to a particular application at the moment, but > once we can figure out a reasonable way of specifying modbus endpoints, > I'll rework it and check it in. > > I imagine something similar to pyvcp - an xml-ish file that has the > slave addresses and register/coil numbers, along with the corresponding > hal pin names. > > - Steve > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
Fantastic...The new version of classic ladder has the modbus option in the config. But the version with EMC 2.1.7 does not have this. This could open up alot of I/O for me for a solid operators station. Can the classic ladder in EMC be upgraded? If you could check the inputs in classic ladder I could turn the pushbutton lights on without tieing up I/O points on my Motenc card. I would like to save these for machine critical functions like overtravel switches and home switches. If the status of these inputs could sent to emc then I could use them to switch modes etc. Dave - Original Message - From: "Stephen Wille Padnos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project > Dave Keeton wrote: > >> Question - I know that classic ladder has modbus capability. Even >> though EMC does'nt use it, can classic ladder use it for additional >> I/O points for switches and coils? > > Darned good question. > > It won't matter for long. I have a userspace hal<->modbus interface > working. It's specific to a particular application at the moment, but > once we can figure out a reasonable way of specifying modbus endpoints, > I'll rework it and check it in. > > I imagine something similar to pyvcp - an xml-ish file that has the > slave addresses and register/coil numbers, along with the corresponding > hal pin names. > > - Steve > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
Question - I know that classic ladder has modbus capability. Even though EMC does'nt use it, can classic ladder use it for additional I/O points for switches and coils? Dave - Original Message - From: Dave Keeton To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Starting a new project Hello, I am new to both Linux and EMC. I am a maintenance supervisor in an aircraft manufacturing facility. We do landing gear. I have a Motenc-Lite servo board. I am pretty sure I won't have alot of problems with the motion control section of this but was wondering about how to use a manual pulse generator and jog push buttons. How would I tie hard pushbuttons to the soft buttons on tkemc? Also, classic ladder does not start when I bring up the EMC2 Sample config. How do I do this? Thanks, Dave -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Brushless Amps
I checkedThis is a dual winding integrated 6000 rpm 100hp VAC motor on our Okuma MCV bridge mill. (Big Big Iron!)The Hall effect sensor is mounted on top of the motor with the encoder rotor mounted directly to the motor shaft. I have replaced this encoder before. The motor shaft bearing failed and let the encoder rotor smack the sensor. The Z pulse is used for orientation of the spindle for automatic tool changer functions on this machine. The signal from this encoder on the A and B signals are sinusoidal. The drive manual says they are used as a speed reference. Okuma says it is a Hall Effect Sensor. I confirmed with their service department. Maybe it is not a true Hall Effect? At least that is what they tell meThe sensor is adjusted by monitoring the signals before they are processed in the amplifier to adjust amplitude. The closer the sensor is to the rotor the higher the amplitude. Is this different in a brushless dc motor? Again, this is probably the extreme limit of my experience with them. Most our motors (even brushless dc) use high resolution optical encoders. Most of our systems are AC or permanent magnet DC. Out of 50 machines this the only one we have now that has a "Hall Effect" (or so they say). Dave - Original Message - From: "Jon Elson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Brushless Amps > Dave Keeton wrote: >>>The motor has only Hall sensors. Do the Hall sensors have an analog >>>output in order to be able to position the rotor at a desired angle from >>>the sensors? >> >> >> I think that Hall Effect sensors are sinusoidal output. At least >> with my experience with them. The ones that I have worked with have an a, >> not a, b, not b and z, not z. They are converted to TTL square wave in >> the >> drive itself. > I think you will find they are digital coming out of the motor. > They work more like an Inductosyn linear scale. Signal >> amplitude is critical, to much and the drive will start clipping and >> giving >> you false feed back or throwing alarms. I think plain old encoders are a >> better bet for a bridgeport. Hall effect sensors are to sensitive and to >> expensive to replace if you need to. > Real Hall sensors are buried in the motor, and would require > extreme surgical measures to even get to them. Many brushless > motors with "industry standard" hall outputs use a Renco encoder > which gives ABZ plus the "Hall" signals. > > Yes, optical encoders are great, but you still need commutation > signals from the motor to properly drive a brushless drive. > > Jon > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Brushless Amps
>The motor has only Hall sensors. Do the Hall sensors have an analog >output in order to be able to position the rotor at a desired angle from >the sensors? I think that Hall Effect sensors are sinusoidal output. At least with my experience with them. The ones that I have worked with have an a, not a, b, not b and z, not z. They are converted to TTL square wave in the drive itself. They work more like an Inductosyn linear scale. Signal amplitude is critical, to much and the drive will start clipping and giving you false feed back or throwing alarms. I think plain old encoders are a better bet for a bridgeport. Hall effect sensors are to sensitive and to expensive to replace if you need to. Use a tach for speed and an encoder for position. Dave - Original Message - From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Brushless Amps >I have a Pacific Scientific R46GENA DC brushless servo motor that I > would like to use for my Bridgeport conversion, so I am looking for a > amp/driver to drive it. > > The specifications are on page 26 here: > > http://www.pacsci.com/support/documents/pc800/svomtrs.pdf > > I don't know if it is a sinusoidal or trapezoidal motor so if anyone has > a way to determine this, please let me know. Is the difference in the > drive just software? > > The specifications indicate an RPM of 1,700 at 240 Vac, 320 Vdc and 16.5 > Amps max., so I assume that I need a 320 Vdc 20 Amp motor supply? > > The motor has only Hall sensors. Do the Hall sensors have an analog > output in order to be able to position the rotor at a desired angle from > the sensors? > > Could the Pico Systems PWM brushless amp be used as a basis for my > application? In other words, could I change the power components to > higher voltage/current? > > Is a continuous stall torque of 7.6 Nm (67.3 lb*in), and a peak torque > of 20.2 Nm (179 lb*in) appropriate for a Bridgeport? My plan is to have > a direct coupling between the motor and ballscrew. I have some Sanyo > P5's but at 3.9 Nm (46 lb*in) continuous and 11.7 Nm (139 lb*in) peak > torque, but they seem a little small. > > -- > Kirk Wallace (California, USA > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ > Hardinge HNC lathe > Bridgeport mill conversion pending > Zubal lathe conversion pending) > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
The answer would be no to the slow axis issue. All axis on this machine will
run a linear 250ipm. The problem is in the brains of the thing. It only has
5 lines of "Look Ahead". The way the arcs are being programmed is the issue.
Because the arc radius is not consistant throughout the profile of the cut
there are various arcs attached to one another through the cuuting path.
Each change in radius has to be recalculated by the control. At least this
is how Fanuc explained it to me. Because we already have the max look ahead
for this control our only option is to retro fit the control to something
else. This is the only machine in the shop that this issue is this severe.
Dave
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From: "ben lipkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, Dave Keeton wrote:
>
>> How does this control handle 3d interpolated arcs? Anyone know? The
>> reason I am asking is we have a machine that has a Fanuc10M control on
>> it. It goes from 80ipm down to about 20ipm while cutting these arcs.
>> Almost all profile cutting on landing gear is done this way.It's
>> killing our job ratesgoing to bed now.Dave is tired!
>
> Currently emc only handles arcs in the xy xz and yz planes, but this is
> more of a limitation of g-code than the way emc is built. It does blend
> arcs together quite nicely as you can see here at the bottom of the page:
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TrajectoryControl
>
> The yellow lines are deviations from the programmed path to satisfy
> the acceleration constraints.
>
> Does your machine have a slow axis on it? I was mucking around with the
> arc code today, and it seems that emc will use the acceleration of the
> slowest axis involved in an arc move, which is sub-optimal. It shouldn't
> affect a smoothly contoured part very much though.
>
>
>>> You could use the program halcmd to link buttons in tkemc to signals
>>> connected to ladder inputs. You'll need a bit of tickle language to do
>>> that but this stuff can be hacked together from a couple of other Tcl/Tk
>>> programs already in the source.
>
> I would suggest at least looking at the HAL system and pyvcp ("virtual
> control panel") before trying to mess around with Tcl.
>
> -fenn
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
Thanks, I will check that out.I do have a spare encoder channel on the motenc. Do I not worry about connecting the "Z" channel. My MPG is a real MPG. It has A, not A, B, not B only. No "Z" channel - Original Message - From: "Stephen Wille Padnos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project > Dave Keeton wrote: > >>We must be thinking the same..Scary thing is was I went looking >>through >>the motenc_io file. I figured that it was'nt finding what it was looking >>for, I copied the files over and renamed them. After getting errors here >>and >>there I finally got it working. The difference is you know what your doing >>and I don't. I'm just guessing at this point! I am already an avid ladder >>programmer so if I learn how to configure the I/O points, timers and what >>not in CL then I should be on my way.can push buttons be tied to tkemc >>through Classic ladder? I am going to need an operator panel with an MPG >>(manual pulse generator) or handwheel and pushbuttons. >> >> Thank you for your help. >> >> Dave >> >> > Oh - in my usual form, I helped with the specific problem and forgot > about the bigger picture :) > > As far as I know, you can't hook external buttons to TkEMC (or mini, or > AXIS ...). However, there is another user interface you can run at the > same time as any of those - halui. That's how you hook up external > buttons and lights and get things done with them. There is one > exception though - jogging with an MPG needs the MPG to be read in > realtime, so you would load a software encoder counter (or use a spare > on the Motenc, if you have one), and connect that directly to the motion > controller. There are individual jog-enable input bits to select the > axis to jog, and the MPG gets hooked to all of the axes. > > Take a look at the jogwheel.hal file in the max config for more info on > jogwheels. > For more info on halui, look at the various files in the halui_halvcp > config. > > There's also information on the wiki on both of these subjects (search > for halui or jog wheel). > > - Steve > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
Thanks Ray, I will hopefully be working on that over the next few days. Still building the panel (Gotta make it look good as well as work good.) So far I am making progress and thats good. The goal is to get this up and running so we can decide wether to put it on production machines or not. How does this control handle 3d interpolated arcs? Anyone know? The reason I am asking is we have a machine that has a Fanuc10M control on it. It goes from 80ipm down to about 20ipm while cutting these arcs. Almost all profile cutting on landing gear is done this way.It's killing our job ratesgoing to bed now.Dave is tired! Thanks Again! - Original Message - From: "Ray Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project > > Glad to hear it's going. You'll need to add in the HAL pin links that > connect estop and lube so that the demo works properly. You should also > comment out the part of motenc_io.hal that loop back the estop. > > You could use the program halcmd to link buttons in tkemc to signals > connected to ladder inputs. You'll need a bit of tickle language to do > that but this stuff can be hacked together from a couple of other Tcl/Tk > programs already in the source. > > Rayh > > > On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 21:17 -0400, Dave Keeton wrote: >> We must be thinking the same..Scary thing is was I went looking >> through >> the motenc_io file. I figured that it was'nt finding what it was looking >> for, I copied the files over and renamed them. After getting errors here >> and >> there I finally got it working. The difference is you know what your >> doing >> and I don't. I'm just guessing at this point! I am already an avid ladder >> programmer so if I learn how to configure the I/O points, timers and what >> not in CL then I should be on my way.can push buttons be tied to >> tkemc >> through Classic ladder? I am going to need an operator panel with an MPG >> (manual pulse generator) or handwheel and pushbuttons. >> >>Thank you for your help. >> >> Dave >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Stephen Wille Padnos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project >> >> >> > Dave Keeton wrote: >> > >> >>Hi Ray, >> >> >> >> Glad to be here. Thank you for the fast reply. >> >> >> >> I can get classic ladder to come up in demo_step_cl and >> >>demo_sim_cl. I guess my question is more about the configuration files >> >>for >> >>Motenc card. When I look at the moten_io file it reads: >> >> >> >># Just uncomment the following line if you want a Software PLC >> >>#loadusr -w classicladder --nogui ../configs/common/bridgeport.clp >> >> >> >>So I edit it to read: >> >> >> >># Just uncomment the following line if you want a Software PLC >> >>loadusr -w classicladder --nogui ../configs/common/bridgeport.clp >> >> >> >> >> > Hmmm. >> > >> > Well, it looks like that comment was added way back in the second >> > version of the motenc_io.hal file, in December of 2005. Unfortunately, >> > the referenced bridgeport.clp isn't in CVS, and as far as I can tell, >> > it >> > never has been. >> > >> > I'm not sure if Pete V. ever checked it in anywhere, or if he still has >> > it. >> > >> > In any case, you probably don't want that exact ladder anyway. If you >> > just want to mess around with it, you should be able to copy the .clp >> > file from the demo_step_cl directory as a starting point, and change >> > the >> > ladder-related lines to read like the ones in the demo_step_cl hal >> > file. >> > >> > - Steve >> > [snip] >> > >> > >> > - >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >> > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >> > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. >> > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> >
Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
A quick question (one of many to come!), would I change the line: # Just uncomment the following line if you want a Software PLC #loadusr -w classicladder --nogui ../configs/common/bridgeport.clp To: # Just uncomment the following line if you want a Software PLC #loadusr -w classicladder --nogui ../configs/common/myladder.clp To load the file myladder.clp into classic ladder when emc starts? - Original Message - From: "Stephen Wille Padnos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project > Dave Keeton wrote: > >>Hi Ray, >> >> Glad to be here. Thank you for the fast reply. >> >> I can get classic ladder to come up in demo_step_cl and >>demo_sim_cl. I guess my question is more about the configuration files for >>Motenc card. When I look at the moten_io file it reads: >> >># Just uncomment the following line if you want a Software PLC >>#loadusr -w classicladder --nogui ../configs/common/bridgeport.clp >> >>So I edit it to read: >> >># Just uncomment the following line if you want a Software PLC >>loadusr -w classicladder --nogui ../configs/common/bridgeport.clp >> >> > Hmmm. > > Well, it looks like that comment was added way back in the second > version of the motenc_io.hal file, in December of 2005. Unfortunately, > the referenced bridgeport.clp isn't in CVS, and as far as I can tell, it > never has been. > > I'm not sure if Pete V. ever checked it in anywhere, or if he still has > it. > > In any case, you probably don't want that exact ladder anyway. If you > just want to mess around with it, you should be able to copy the .clp > file from the demo_step_cl directory as a starting point, and change the > ladder-related lines to read like the ones in the demo_step_cl hal file. > > - Steve > [snip] > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
We must be thinking the same..Scary thing is was I went looking through the motenc_io file. I figured that it was'nt finding what it was looking for, I copied the files over and renamed them. After getting errors here and there I finally got it working. The difference is you know what your doing and I don't. I'm just guessing at this point! I am already an avid ladder programmer so if I learn how to configure the I/O points, timers and what not in CL then I should be on my way.can push buttons be tied to tkemc through Classic ladder? I am going to need an operator panel with an MPG (manual pulse generator) or handwheel and pushbuttons. Thank you for your help. Dave - Original Message - From: "Stephen Wille Padnos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project > Dave Keeton wrote: > >>Hi Ray, >> >> Glad to be here. Thank you for the fast reply. >> >> I can get classic ladder to come up in demo_step_cl and >>demo_sim_cl. I guess my question is more about the configuration files for >>Motenc card. When I look at the moten_io file it reads: >> >># Just uncomment the following line if you want a Software PLC >>#loadusr -w classicladder --nogui ../configs/common/bridgeport.clp >> >>So I edit it to read: >> >># Just uncomment the following line if you want a Software PLC >>loadusr -w classicladder --nogui ../configs/common/bridgeport.clp >> >> > Hmmm. > > Well, it looks like that comment was added way back in the second > version of the motenc_io.hal file, in December of 2005. Unfortunately, > the referenced bridgeport.clp isn't in CVS, and as far as I can tell, it > never has been. > > I'm not sure if Pete V. ever checked it in anywhere, or if he still has > it. > > In any case, you probably don't want that exact ladder anyway. If you > just want to mess around with it, you should be able to copy the .clp > file from the demo_step_cl directory as a starting point, and change the > ladder-related lines to read like the ones in the demo_step_cl hal file. > > - Steve > [snip] > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project
Hi Ray, Glad to be here. Thank you for the fast reply. I can get classic ladder to come up in demo_step_cl and demo_sim_cl. I guess my question is more about the configuration files for Motenc card. When I look at the moten_io file it reads: # Just uncomment the following line if you want a Software PLC #loadusr -w classicladder --nogui ../configs/common/bridgeport.clp So I edit it to read: # Just uncomment the following line if you want a Software PLC loadusr -w classicladder --nogui ../configs/common/bridgeport.clp But I still don't get the classic ladder interface...What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Dave - Original Message - From: "Ray Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Starting a new project > > Hi Dave > > Welcome. This is a good place for help as is the IRC channel on > freenode.net. > > There are both realtime and user space elements to ladder. The realtime > stuff does the actual logic while the user space stuff shows and edits > it. > > Both demo_step_cl and demo_sim_cl should start a user space set of > windows into classic ladder. I believe there is still a page on them in > the wiki. > > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Sample_HAL_And_ClassicLadder > > It's a bit dated because there have been some changes to the way that > ladder handles variable names but the essence of the interaction between > EMC and ladder are in there. > > Rayh > > > > > On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 18:33 -0400, Dave Keeton wrote: >> Hello, >> >>I am new to both Linux and EMC. I am a maintenance supervisor >> in an aircraft manufacturing facility. We do landing gear. I have a >> Motenc-Lite servo board. I am pretty sure I won't have alot of >> problems with the motion control section of this but was wondering >> about how to use a manual pulse generator and jog push buttons. How >> would I tie hard pushbuttons to the soft buttons on tkemc? Also, >> classic ladder does not start when I bring up the EMC2 Sample config. >> How do I do this? >> >> >>Thanks, >>Paul >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> ___ Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Starting a new project
Hello, I am new to both Linux and EMC. I am a maintenance supervisor in an aircraft manufacturing facility. We do landing gear. I have a Motenc-Lite servo board. I am pretty sure I won't have alot of problems with the motion control section of this but was wondering about how to use a manual pulse generator and jog push buttons. How would I tie hard pushbuttons to the soft buttons on tkemc? Also, classic ladder does not start when I bring up the EMC2 Sample config. How do I do this? Thanks, Paul- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
