[Emc-users] Cut some parts with LCNC!

2016-05-07 Thread Jason Burton
Anyone one want to see the first test? (Not cutting the parts, testing the
assembled parts)
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Re: [Emc-users] Waterjet at TX/RX Labs

2015-12-31 Thread Jason Burton
I missed that bit, good catch Jon.
On Dec 30, 2015 10:26 PM, "Jon Elson" <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:

> On 12/30/2015 02:08 PM, Jason Burton wrote:
> > That's what the bricks do in the clip. It takes surprisingly little
> > clamping to make good parts on waterjet.
> >
> Yes, but I could see the workpiece in the video jumping when
> the pierce went through.
> So, the bricks were not in the right place, I guess.
>
> Jon
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Re: [Emc-users] Waterjet at TX/RX Labs

2015-12-30 Thread Jason Burton
That's what the bricks do in the clip. It takes surprisingly little
clamping to make good parts on waterjet.
On Dec 27, 2015 10:21 PM, "Jon Elson"  wrote:

> On 12/27/2015 10:42 PM, Chris Kelley wrote:
> > There's now one more LinuxCNC waterjet in the world. Retrofit of a c.
> 2000
> > Flow Waterjet, 4' x 4' cutting area and a 40K psi intensifier.
> >
> > This video was from yesterday (Dec. 26):
> > https://youtu.be/CEA0XdIvBQY
> >
> > Tonight we got the abrasive hopper working and started cutting steel.
> >
> WOW, really cool!!  Looks like you need some hold-downs for
> the workpiece.
>
> Jon
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Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42

2015-10-17 Thread Jason Burton
Hi Gene,

Think of cutter comp like American and British roads.

G41 is Brit. G42 is Yank.

Climb vs conventional depend on whether the road goes around the outside of
the stadium or around the inside.

Best,
Jason
On Oct 16, 2015 11:25 PM, "Gene Heskett"  wrote:

> Greetings;
>
> 1: I am trying to get past the infamous, permanently programmed into LCNC
> error of:
>
> "length of cutter compensation entry move is less than the tools radius"
>
> The tool diameter in the tool_table is 0.030 just for test.  and the tool
> table entry contains no TLO, nor am I using an G41 D0, plain old G41.
> The code has a G40 in its preamble.
>
> And the next x or y move after invoking a G41 is several inches away.
> There is also an intervening z move of a few inches, so it has literally
> feet of motion to bring in the compensation.  The first move after its
> invocation is I believe, a z move that could be as little as 50 thou
> depending on where the machine is sitting.  OTOH it could be more than
> 7" in Z, and 18 in x, or 3" in y while its still up in the air above the
> workpiece.
>
> Despite quite a few attempts over the years, I have never actually made
> it work.  Until today, but gouging problems despite my coding in plenty
> of room for a tool direction reversal.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> 2: In the manual, it speaks of left and right compensation, and I am
> having a hard time wrapping my head around the corelation of that
> language to "climb" or "dig" cutting.  As all this wood carving is being
> done in climb direction to reduce any dig splintering, it seems like I'd
> have to issue a few of the opposite flaver to assure it doesn't plow up
> the end of the board on the retrace back to the left edge. That, or pick
> up the tool for move clearance.  In which case having blending on could
> damage the workpiece.  That too is do-able but Y is faster without the
> tool comp move.
>
> And it appears from its behaviour that a G41 is a "climb" cut, while G42
> I assume is a "dig" cut.
>
> So I think have that sorted. But the gouging exits are a problem yet
> because it will not draw the backplot to show one where the gouge is.
> I don't have it when doing the end of a "side" board, but it sticks up
> its ugly red x hand if I turn side off to do the ends of a end board in
> this box.  If side is on, I do see 2 tiny red x's at the left edge of
> the backplot, both would occur well off the workpiece at it approaches
> the starting location of a pass.  Beyond that, I am in the dark.
>
> So my final question is:
>
> Is there a detective method that will show me where it is?
>
> Since LinuxCNC doesn't (yet) follow subroutines, blaming everything wrong
> on the call to the subroutine, do I have to copy/paste a copy of my 2
> corner routines so the first iteration of each is inline before it will
> tell me where the problem is? Since it was the left corner that was the
> majority of the trouble, I did copy/paste it as inline, twice, and was
> able to fix enough of it until I hit the right corner code, which I'll
> have to do the same to, but its getting sleepy out, and way past beer
> thirty so I am still my one a day behind.
>
> If tool compensation can really be made to work, it would simplicate at
> least 100 LOC out of this program.  Already has, but I'm now adding more
> stuff to make sure there is turn around room at the ends of the cut
> sweeps.  But tomorrow is another day.  I am pleased with todays
> progress.
>
> Comments?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-18 Thread Jason Burton
I haven't needed to run offline, though I hear it will.  It's been a treat
so far, though I've just started making parts for my startup.  Also, comes
with a linuxcnc postprocessor (it is called EMC in the post list).

Best,
Jason


On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:27 AM, John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com>
wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jason Burton [mailto:lathebuil...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: September-17-15 10:08 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC
> >
> >
> > Fusion 360 CAM is very nice.
> >
>
> I went to the web site and tried to download from Debian.
> "Your operating system is not supported. Fusion 360 is supported on 64-bit
> Windows 7 or newer and 64-bit Mac OS X 10.9 or newer."
>
> >From the web site:
> "Fusion 360T is the first 3D CAD/CAM tool of its kind, connecting your
> entire product development process in a single cloud-based tool."
>
> Cloud based implies permanently connected to the internet right?  That's a
> non-starter for the same reason MACH4 is a non-starter.
>
> I realize I may sound rather odd when I say this but think about it.  Walk
> up to your 1942 South Bend lathe and you can turn out metal parts.
>
> Surf just about any forum on the internet more than 1 year old and click on
> links that end up with a 404 not found error.  Support cloud computing and
> buy into the deal that next year it will cost you again or it won't be
> available at all.
>
> John
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Re: [Emc-users] CAD/CAM for LinuxCNC

2015-09-17 Thread Jason Burton
Fusion 360 CAM is very nice.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 11:49 PM, John Dammeyer 
wrote:

> Hi,
> I've been using Alibre (now Geomagic) and the VisualCAM plugin for
> generating G-Code.  MecSoft will no longer be supporting the plugin and has
> offered a standalone version of VisualCAM.  When 3D Systems purchased
> Alibre
> I wondered whether it would eventually just become a CAD system for rapid
> prototyping.  I suspect that will happen soon.
>
> So with MACH3 turning into a networked licensed (must be internet
> connected)
> CNC system and Geomagic no longer having an integrated CAM interface it
> seems like it's a good time to re-evaluate LinuxCNC and for that matter
> Linux for the entire development process.  That or live with WIN-10 (GACK)
>
> So what are people using for the 3D parametric drawing to G-Code CAM
> generation to the LinuxCNC control?
>
> Or is Linux still in the 2D drawing world with a post processor to generate
> G-Code that needs the command line editor VI to clean up?
> John
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Re: [Emc-users] Machining a servo motor shaft.

2015-09-07 Thread Jason Burton
Assuming the bearings come off, maybe dip the end you are machining in hot
paraffin? After it sets up it should make a fair chip dam.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 11:56 AM, rayj  wrote:

> Someone mentioned using modelling clay for removing chips from magnets
> on this list earlier.
>
> I was thinking: Wrap it with cling wrap or maybe cover it with grease so
> the clay doesn't adhere and then cover it with clay.  When finished,
> press all the swarf firmly into the clay and then remove the clay.
>
> Now that I've finished, I realize that the clay would probably get
> thrown off during the turning, but maybe the idea will lead to another
> solution.
>
> Back to lurking.
>
> Raymond Julian
> Kettle River, MN
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>
> On 09/07/2015 05:09 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> > I have a motor that would be about right for my lathe conversion, if
> > it didn't have a brake on the back. (a nice short motor is useful for
> > a Lathe X axis).
> >
> > I am considering re-machining the rotor shaft and the end cover to
> > make it into a shorter motor without a brake.
> >
> > The problem, clearly, will be that all the swarf will want to stick to
> > the magnet. My idea is to wrap it in masking tape and then duct tape,
> > do the machining, add another layer of duct-tape to immobilise any
> > remaining swarf, then cut it all off.
> >
> > Does anyone have a better idea?
> >
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Pncconf VFD Spindle scale bug and fix

2015-08-31 Thread Jason Burton
Hi Gene,

To your first question, I do not know that this bug is hitting you.  What
it looked like for me was this:  adjustment of spindle scale parameters
(...7i77.0.1.analogout5-scalemax, ...analogout5-minlim, &
...analogout5-maxlim) only worked within a tiny range.

For scale from N=1 through 10 the VFD output was linear for commanded
spindle speeds from s1 though sN as you would expect.

An example with scalemax=10, minlim=0, & maxlim=10:
 1) Issuing m3 s10 gives full speed spindle. As do m3 s11, s1000, s1, &
s10.
 2) Issuing m3 s5 gives 1/2 of full speed.
 3) Issuing m3 s1 gives 1/10 of full speed.
  -All correct, just not scaled to actual RPM.

Here is what was broken:
 -For anything above scalemax = 10 (and appropriate minlim/maxlim) the
spindle would turn on, but at ~60 rpm.  For all commanded speeds.

There are two lines that prohibited scalemax/minlim/maxlim from doing their
job.  They are corrected easily.  See the bug report if it looks like it
applies.

With these two lines fixed, the scale parameters do in fact scale as they
should. Commanding m3 s2000 gives 2000 rpm.

I am no guru but for symptoms you describe, I'd be tempted to examine first
P and then the feedforward terms.  Perhaps drill holes in scrap to tune the
spindle under load. I found John Thornton's tuning tutorial helpful.

To your second question, I have only one gear ratio on mine and have not
needed to examine gearchanges.  Sorry mate.

Sincerely,
Jason Burton

Good luck with the rebuild.




On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote:

> On Friday 28 August 2015 22:02:51 Jason Burton wrote:
>
> > Just an heads up to the list, and for future Google searchers.
> >
> > First, let me thank all you developers for building pncconf in the
> > first place. Great tool for quick setup and learning.
> >
> > I have been working on getting my VFD mill spindle to work with proper
> > scaling for some time now.
> >
> > Turns out Pncconf was generating a couple lines incorrectly.  Easy fix
> > only if you know what is wrong.  Thanks for the patient help Peter
> > Wallace!
> >
> > Hardware: big vertical machining center + Mesa 5i25/7i77 + 0-10 VDC
> > controlled VFD spindle.
> >
> > Software: all recent linuxcnc/pncconf versions dating from current
> > live cd Debian with master branch to at least as far back as the
> > Ubuntu 10 live cd.
> >
> > Both the problem and the fix are described here:
> >
> > https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/433/
> >
> Interesting. pncconf generated a spindle scale factor of 1.0 here, and
> its relatively non-linear but does cover the range of speeds I can get
> with my hardware, the following.
>
> Grizzly GO704 mill, OEM 1 hp motor, PM DC brushed.
>
> Locally built 115 volt dc power supply good for at least 1 KW.
>
> One of the Pico Systems pwm servo amplifiers,
> currently fed at 40 KHz by the pwmgen in a Mesa 5i25 by bypassing the
> optos for that line on my BoB.  Still 1 more opto though, one to
> translate between the BoB's 5 volt swing and the 12 volt swing the pwm
> servo expects.
>
> Overall its working, just not dead accurate, an s2100 actually gets me
> about 2700, but an s80 gets me about 40 revs.  Huge amounts of Pgain
> will stiffen it some but I get the impression I could make Pgain 1500,
> up from the current 150 and it would still be sagging 40% while driving
> a 4-40 tap in 1/2 thick alu using the G33.1 rigid tapping cycle.  This
> with the heads backgear in high range.
>
> So, how might I apply this to my situation to both stiffen the speed
> regulation and tighten up the commanded speed to actual speed obtained?
>
> Also related, do we have a canned halui (or gladevcp) button to change
> the gear scale according to the heads gearshift?
>
> I have 3 machines with this hi-lo gear choice, but only 2 have encoders
> for speed feedback, this new to me mill being one of them.
>
> > Best,
> > Jason Burton
> > (LatheBuilder)
>
> Currently rebuilding mine again. I need a 2x2x5" block of steel for the
> next step, but I expect some gasolene will locate that.
>
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[Emc-users] Pncconf VFD Spindle scale bug and fix

2015-08-28 Thread Jason Burton
Just an heads up to the list, and for future Google searchers.

First, let me thank all you developers for building pncconf in the first
place. Great tool for quick setup and learning.

I have been working on getting my VFD mill spindle to work with proper
scaling for some time now.

Turns out Pncconf was generating a couple lines incorrectly.  Easy fix only
if you know what is wrong.  Thanks for the patient help Peter Wallace!

Hardware: big vertical machining center + Mesa 5i25/7i77 + 0-10 VDC
controlled VFD spindle.

Software: all recent linuxcnc/pncconf versions dating from current live cd
Debian with master branch to at least as far back as the Ubuntu 10 live cd.

Both the problem and the fix are described here:

https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/433/


Best,
Jason Burton
(LatheBuilder)
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Re: [Emc-users] Wire EDM

2015-08-07 Thread Jason Burton
Nice! Here is one of the behind the scenes shots for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zSU6g8I9W4


On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 4:40 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just found this on YouTube
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoV8UXtLYmE

 I though that the inability of LinuxCNC to rewind a path would be a
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Re: [Emc-users] Small cnc-controlled chuck

2015-07-13 Thread Jason Burton
If milling between centers would be acceptable, how about using an actuated
tailstock and the type of headstock center with aggressive drive dog points
built in?

Perhaps something like this:
http://www.woodworkingarchive.biz/woodturning-techniques/images/1383_8_21-wood-lathe-chucks-drive-dog.jpg

Best,
Jason


On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello!

 I need to build a machine for rotary milling of wood parts. The thing
 is that customer wants the parts in the rotary head to be swapped
 automatically, so some kind of cnc-operated chuck is needed.
 I would appreciate, if somebody could share a link to something like
 that. Total range of parts to be machined is 13 to 40 mm, but I do
 understand that operator would have to set up the jaws for particular
 diameter as the chuck itself would move the jaws for few milimeters
 only.
 Is there any simple way to make some diy version that actually works?
 I was thinking about gripping the part between some rollers, but I do
 not think that there would be no slipping etc.
 Any suggestions or hints will be appreciated :)

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Re: [Emc-users] Question on grease fitting, required clearance around for gun access?

2015-06-19 Thread Jason Burton
Maybe switch to needle style grease fittings?

Best,
Jason


On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 Greetings;

 In the process of doing some trial assemblies of the motor to screw
 adaptors, I noted that there was only perhaps a fraction of an mm of
 clearance at best on 2 sides of the zerk style fitting installed in the
 Y nut, so I backed that adaptor off the nut and made some more
 clearance, but I don't think I have enough yet.  Is there a cad drawing
 I can look at that shows how much is required in order to access it with
 a std, genuine Chinese imported for Merican usage, grease gun?  The type
 with the mini-cartridge that I keep 2 or so preloaded with either auto
 style, or lubriplate BB grades of grease.  For that push on, bend off
 connection, it will need nearly 1/8 of clearance all around the nipple.
 Or am I behind the state of the art, and there is now a miniature
 version of that which I could retrofit my hand pumped small guns with?

 Thanks.

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Re: [Emc-users] video card GX270 Box

2015-05-08 Thread Jason Burton
Also, since you are using a 5i25, the parallel port can be disabled in bios
to help the latency numbers if they happen to be bad.

For that matter any ports not used can be disabled in bios to improve
latency.

The Mesa card makes measured latency matter less though as it does the
heavy lifting instead of the pc.

Someone more experienced could say how bad latency would have to be to
interfere with Mesa cards.

Jason
 On May 7, 2015 11:27 AM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

 On 05/07/2015 08:19 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote:
  I haven't had any problems with on board video on Dell GX270's or GX280's
  and Linuxcnc 2.5 or 2.6.
 
  What is supposed to not work?
 
  -- Ralph
  
  From: Jeff Thompson [alpha.machin...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 5:49 AM
  To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [Emc-users] video card GX270 Box
 
  I have a GX270 that I was wanting to use in a setup with the 5I25 card.
  Does anyone know what video card works the best. I was skimming trough
  older posts and came across some info that you should not use the on
 board
  video. Any information will help.
 
 
 Back in the old days of EMC2, there definitely were some
 on board video schemes that caused very bad latency
 problems.  I think specifically the Dell GX270 and GX280
 were known to NOT cause problems.  I think they may use
 dedicated video memory, rather than sharing the main memory,
 and preventing the CPU from having sufficient access.
 I think these on board video problems are really relics
 from about a decade ago.

 I use a GX270 here as my test system, and it works fine.
 The acid test is just to run the latency test routine from
 the LinuxCNC menu, and then do stuff on the screen, like
 start up a browser and watch a video.  If that doesn't kill
 the latency numbers, you are not going to have a problem.

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Re: [Emc-users] Error using pncconf in 2.6. Please, is there something I am missing?

2014-04-26 Thread Jason Burton
Tested, works in 2.6.0~pre1.27.g2374e3e (just pulled from buildbot).

Thank you!

Sincerely,
Jason Burton
 On Apr 25, 2014 8:44 PM, Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Will do, thanks!
 On Apr 25, 2014 5:02 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote:

 On 4/25/14 15:49 , Jason Burton wrote:
  Hi Chris,
 
  A week or two ago. Version 2.6.0~pre0.5418.gf74c5d3
 
  Thanks! Both for maintaining pncconf and for confirming I am not going
  crazy (at least on this topic...)

 That version predates a couple of Chris Morley's recent pncconf bugfixes.

 Try upgrading to v2.6.0~pre1-15-g2111b4e (or newer), which includes the
 bugfixes.

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[Emc-users] Error using pncconf in 2.6. Please, is there something I am missing?

2014-04-25 Thread Jason Burton
Perhaps I should revert to 2.5.x but I moved to 2.6 for the 5i25 support.

I believe I am filling in all the tabs correctly.  This is my first
go-around. I am trying to get a close-enough sample lcnc configuration that
I can start retrofitting an older vmc.

Mesa 5i25/7i77/7i73. Field power applied, red led indicators on both
daughter cards.  Error is the same whether the 7i73 is plugged in or not.

The error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/pncconf, line 8326, in on_complete_finish
if self.data[mesa%d_currentfirmwaredata% boardnum][_MAXSSERIALPORTS]:
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable

All feedback welcome, I know I'm new to this!

Sincerely,
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Re: [Emc-users] Error using pncconf in 2.6. Please, is there something I am missing?

2014-04-25 Thread Jason Burton
Hi Chris,

A week or two ago. Version 2.6.0~pre0.5418.gf74c5d3

Thanks! Both for maintaining pncconf and for confirming I am not going
crazy (at least on this topic...)

Sincerely,
Jason Burton
On Apr 25, 2014 3:49 PM, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote:


 That is a bug. When did u get 2.6? Thought I had already fixed this. I
 will check soon.
 Chris m

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 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Emc-users] Error using pncconf in 2.6. Please, is there
 something I am missing?
 Date: Fri, Apr 25, 2014 5:24 AM


 Perhaps I should revert to 2.5.x but I moved to 2.6 for the 5i25 support.

 I believe I am filling in all the tabs correctly.  This is my first
 go-around. I am trying to get a close-enough sample lcnc configuration that
 I can start retrofitting an older vmc.

 Mesa 5i25/7i77/7i73. Field power applied, red led indicators on both
 daughter cards.  Error is the same whether the 7i73 is plugged in or not.

 The error:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/pncconf, line 8326, in on_complete_finish
 if self.data[mesa%d_currentfirmwaredata% boardnum][_MAXSSERIALPORTS]:
 TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable

 All feedback welcome, I know I'm new to this!

 Sincerely,
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Re: [Emc-users] Error using pncconf in 2.6. Please, is there something I am missing?

2014-04-25 Thread Jason Burton
Will do, thanks!
On Apr 25, 2014 5:02 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote:

 On 4/25/14 15:49 , Jason Burton wrote:
  Hi Chris,
 
  A week or two ago. Version 2.6.0~pre0.5418.gf74c5d3
 
  Thanks! Both for maintaining pncconf and for confirming I am not going
  crazy (at least on this topic...)

 That version predates a couple of Chris Morley's recent pncconf bugfixes.

 Try upgrading to v2.6.0~pre1-15-g2111b4e (or newer), which includes the
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Re: [Emc-users] OT - help identifying machine in a collage

2013-04-09 Thread Jason Burton
Combination gearbox and drive tensioner for something like a paper
manufacturing line perhaps?
 On Apr 9, 2013 12:03 PM, Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Rogge dro...@tormach.com wrote:

  A librarian friend asked me to help identify the following device in a
  collage from a Serbian artist (August Černigoj) circa 1925.  Image of the
  collage and a close-up of the device can be found here:
  http://static.inky.ws/image/3834/La%20Strada,%201925-1.jpg
  http://static.inky.ws/image/3835/machine_1.png
 

 I have seen a gearbox that looked a lot like that, but I can't place it.
 I'm sure it's a gearbox though

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Re: [Emc-users] Latency problem

2013-03-28 Thread Jason Burton
On Mar 28, 2013 2:58 PM, bjørn bj...@spesmek.no wrote:

 snip
 /I keep mulling over this 5-6 hours observation. I know we recommend
 running the latency test for a long time but I don't think we understand
 why these spiking events show up rarely. It's all well and good to blame
 power saving features in modern CPUs but they are functioning over much
 smaller time scales. If they are involved in 5-6 hour spikes, then it
 would seem we're experiencing some sort of perfect storm phenomenon./

 You are probably right, this happens after to long a time, and not the
 same each time either. But i am still suspicious  to the blank screen.
 All screensaver functions are already set to never thats a bit of a
 mystery

If it's an LCD monitor, perhaps it has to do with two way handshaking
between the monitor and the unix box.

Is there a power save mode built into the monitor itself?

Anything special about the monitor?

As an aside, turn off (in BIOS) any ports you do not need. I've seen Dell
desktops get good latency figures over 24 hour testing with unused ports
disabled. Those hosts used Mesa cards instead of the parallel ports. If I
recall correctly, the rs232 serial ports were disabled as well.

I'll be putting one of them into service on my first retrofit soonish. If
there was interest I could test disabling the ports separately.

Best,
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Re: [Emc-users] OT: sanding/polishing to get coplanar extrusion nipples

2013-03-07 Thread Jason Burton
Comments below.

Best,
Jason

On Mar 6, 2013 11:34 AM, Joseph Chiu joec...@joechiu.com wrote:

...

 As assembled, the flatened tips of the extruder nozzles are not quite
 matched in Z-height, causing the lower nozzle to gouge the output of the
 higher nozzle.  The recommended fix from the factory is that you can shim
 between the dual-head assembly to the carriage to raise the low side until
 the nozzles are matched in height.

...

+1 on Jeremy's advice re: using paper feelers to set known offset  not
cutting the nozzles.

Before shimming though, consider the possible causes: IIRC, makerbot
nozzles are threaded onto an M6 stud, with the plastic passageway drilled
through lengthwise.

Check to make sure both nozzles are seated full depth, and not bottomed out
on a burr or threads cut too short.

Which surface is the nozzle designed to bottom out on?


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Re: [Emc-users] Need socket head 6x1mm by 35mm bolts

2013-01-27 Thread Jason Burton
+1 on mcmaster. Though it looks like John has you covered.
 On Jan 27, 2013 6:52 PM, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu
wrote:

 mcmaster.com is my go-to source for all fasteners.  Cheap, fast shipping,
 no minimums.

 -- Ralph
 
 From: Gene Heskett [ghesk...@wdtv.com]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 4:19 PM
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Emc-users] Need socket head 6x1mm by 35mm bolts

 Greetings all;

 Does anyone know where I can order just a few, I need 3, of the above bolt
 without a $30 to $50 minimum order?

 The bearing blocks for this screw are machined only for socket head bolts,
 and normal 10mm hex heads do not leave room to get a wrench or socket on
 them to properly tighten them.

 Locally, there are no socket head metric bolts stocked at all.  None, nada,
 zip.

 Its either that, or cut me some bushings out of 1/8 pipe  use 40mm long
 bolts which I have, and get get up to 50mm long at Lowes.  But that would
 be my 2nd choice.

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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings and Xmas gift

2013-01-05 Thread Jason Burton
Merry Christmas Yann, and happy new year!
On Dec 26, 2012 2:05 AM, yann jautard brico...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi everybody

 Merry Christmas and happy new year from France.

 And for the ones that have a router capable of doing 800x600mm work in
 10mm wood panel , there is a bonus :
 Make a educational christmas present to your child or grand child : a
 birdhouse :)
 Nail and glue free design.

 http://imagebin.org/240634

 Here is the NGC file :

 http://filebin.ca/RJdr6qHEoCt/ok_COMPLET_trous_larges_1passe_0001.ngc



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Re: [Emc-users] Milling arbor adaptor

2013-01-05 Thread Jason Burton
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:59 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 5 January 2013 17:02, Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com wrote:
  How about silver brazing key stubs onto the inner and outer faces of a
  sleeve?

 In the end, I did this:

 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1rMJccMQo6Q9Vfxi0Fq33tMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

2012-12-25 Thread Jason Burton
To you as well!

Jason
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 A very Merry Christmas, peaceful holidays and a Happy New Year to all of
 you!

 You all have for another year made my life more interesting and enhanced
 my knowledge a lot, even though I am not directly participating for
 health reasons right now, but being in the community helped me to keep
 up with what's going on. Many thanks to all those who contributed their
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Re: [Emc-users] Seasons Greetings

2012-12-25 Thread Jason Burton
To you as well, and all the other regulars on the list!

Best,
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[Emc-users] Realtime feedrate variation based on analog sensor?

2012-12-14 Thread Jason Burton
Hello,

Is it possible to continuously adjust feedrate along a path?

The application I am exploring is similar to wire EDM. A circuit monitors
the spark gap characteristics and provides an analog output.

Vectored feedrate would be adjusted multiple times per second based on the
value.

Hoping someone has already done an EDM in LCNC and I just haven't found
it...?

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Re: [Emc-users] Realtime feedrate variation based on analog sensor?

2012-12-14 Thread Jason Burton
Fantastic!

Thanks for the starting point tips. I now have some homework to do to ask
intelligent followup questions.

Thanks again.

Jason
 On Dec 14, 2012 2:17 PM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:

 If you can get the analog signal into linuxcnc - look at
 'motion.adaptive-feed ' from here.
 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/man/man9/motion.9.html

 would allow you to adjust the feed on the fly - atleast 1000 times a
 second :)

 sam  (I know of atleast one person that has used this for edm.. -
 remember though - linuxcnc doesn't have a mechanism yet for backing up
 along the path..  just speeding up / slowing down.)



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  Is it possible to continuously adjust feedrate along a path?
 
  The application I am exploring is similar to wire EDM. A circuit monitors
  the spark gap characteristics and provides an analog output.
 
  Vectored feedrate would be adjusted multiple times per second based on
 the
  value.
 
  Hoping someone has already done an EDM in LCNC and I just haven't found
  it...?
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Realtime feedrate variation based on analog sensor?

2012-12-14 Thread Jason Burton
Thank you.

It looks like a 4axis hot wire wax cutter could employ this without too
much trouble. Then feedrate would be adaptive rather than needing to prove
out each path in advance.  faster one-offs.

Much more digging ahead.

Best,
Jason
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 On 14 December 2012 20:11, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yes, there is a feed-override pin in HAL.

 As others have said, I meant motion.adaptive-feed. Not halui.feed-overrde.

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Re: [Emc-users] Single Pulse Output?

2012-12-03 Thread Jason Burton
How about a capacitor based delay circuit?

AND-gate it with your one shot pin.

When power is off, capacitor bleeds empty through a resistor to ground.

On power up, the delay circuit is held low until the cap is charged. It
stays charged until power is shut off again.

Set the output enable threshold with a zener diode perhaps (if the AND
gate doesn't give an on voltage you like) and the delay with capacitance
size.

Best,
Jason
 On Dec 2, 2012 2:31 PM, N. Christopher Perry n_christopher_pe...@me.com
wrote:

 Thank you John and Andy.  I've got my machine working almost exactly the
 way I want: When my spindle is enabled/disabled I have a oneshot triggering
 a port pin connected to a modified wireless remote for my vacuum system.

 Now I just need to build a workaround for the ~4 s pulse I get on that
 port pin when the computer is turned on...  I'm guessing I need to wire in
 a delay-on-make lockout for the vacuum remote connection that triggers on
 some output on the computer.

 N.C.

 On 2012-Nov-12, at 05:01, andy pugh wrote:

  On 12 November 2012 02:18, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
  man oneshot from the command line should get you the documentation.
 
  Or the HTML docs:
 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/oneshot.9.html
  Note that you can set it to produce a pulse on both the rising and
  falling edge, so if you net-ed it to halui.machine,is-on you would get
  a pulse when you turned the machine on or off (F2 key in axis)
  You need to enable halui to get that pin:
  http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/halui.html
  I don't know if you get the pulse, or how long it would be, if you
  exit LinuxCNC without turning the machine off.
 
  Note that oneshot has the time resolution of the thread it is in. So
  1mS resolution in the typical servo thread.
  It can't run in the base thread.
 



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Re: [Emc-users] Single Pulse Output?

2012-12-03 Thread Jason Burton
On Dec 3, 2012 9:40 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 3 December 2012 15:15, Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com wrote:
  How about a capacitor based delay circuit?
 
  AND-gate it with your one shot pin.

 That sounds a little over-complex.
 It is probably simpler to find a better-behaved parallel port pin.
 They will tend to change state on power-up. Some are hardware
 inverted. Choosing to use (or avoid) the hardware-inverted ones might
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Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-11-10 Thread Jason Burton
Good news. I found a complete, original control for this exact robot on
ebay for ~$250!

A little wiring and now I am down to debugging coms instead of building a
control from scratch.

If this project works as i hope, the help everyone shared will be handy
when I replicate this setup in a lower cost version.

Thanks again,
Jason

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 2012/9/26 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com:
 
  Alternatively, djdelorie on the IRC seems to be quite well through
  designing his own brushless motor drive.

 Dennis (ceenbot@...) is working on IRAMS-based servo drive. He has
 been silent for few weeks now, so I do not know the current situation.
 Last I saw was a test video, where the drive was switching LEDs
 instead of motor phases, so attempt to spin actual motor was intended
 as next step.

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[Emc-users] Does replying to old threads go straight to the spam bin?

2012-11-10 Thread Jason Burton
Several times I've replied to what seem like recent enough topics to no
avail.

The archive shows them as marked as spam.

Just trying to understand the correct protocol.
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Re: [Emc-users] Does replying to old threads go straight to the spam bin?

2012-11-10 Thread Jason Burton
Thanks. Did the reply to my 100 watt servo amp thread go through?

Best,
Jason
 On Nov 10, 2012 3:55 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote:

 Not here.
  ... Jack


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  Several times I've replied to what seem like recent enough topics to no
  avail.
 
  The archive shows them as marked as spam.
 
  Just trying to understand the correct protocol.
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Does replying to old threads go straight to the spam bin?

2012-11-10 Thread Jason Burton
Now I am mildly confused.  Looking straight at the sourceforge archive I
see no additional replies to my message (found a robot control on
Ebay...from earlier today).  The bottom of the page on sourceforge also
says 1 message has been excluded from this view by a project
administrator.

Of course, I'm not calling you a liar but rather calling my mail/list
readers into question.

Best,
Jason

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote:

 Yep, along with the 16 replies to it.
  ... Jack

 On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thanks. Did the reply to my 100 watt servo amp thread go through?
 
  Best,
  Jason
   On Nov 10, 2012 3:55 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote:
 
  Not here.
   ... Jack
 
 
  On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Several times I've replied to what seem like recent enough topics to
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   avail.
  
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Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Jason Burton
Not wireless, but check out Jog It! on kickstarter. A little over a week
left.

Jason
(No other involvement other than as a backer)
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 Guys,

 I need a better pendant and there was a discussion about those fancy
 Chinese pendants a while ago but I can't find any successful end result.

 Did anyone make a pendant like similar:

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Business-Office-Industrial-/12576/i.html?_from=R40_nkw=wireless+pendant
 or the El Cheapo version without hand wheel:

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ncstudio-CNC-3-Axis-USB-Hand-Held-Controller-2-4G-Wireless-/330736517268?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Automation_Control_EThash=item4d016ec094
 work in our environment? If so, I'm the second to test it. :)

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Re: [Emc-users] Mach 4

2012-11-09 Thread Jason Burton
On Nov 8, 2012 2:07 PM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote:

 Rigid Tapping ***

 ***  requires appropriate hardware (e.g. a tapping head)

 I don't think we know what rigid tapping actually is

 sam


Ya, I noticed that one too.

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Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Jason Burton
On Nov 9, 2012 2:03 PM, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 2012/11/9 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com

  Not wireless, but check out Jog It! on kickstarter. A little over a week
  left.
 
 
 Looks like a good idea. The eBay versions seems more rugged though.
 It actually started when I discussed with my vendor about my recent
 discussion (about performance) and he dropped me a mail with a wifi
 pendant. I asked if they had any API specs or documentation but
 unfortunately not. I was actually willing to spend some hours on
 programming to get it up and running under Linux, but it seems they are a
 little scared to let it go.

 A usb wireless like the eBay versions should be easier to hookup. At least
 to spy on the API... :)

 /S
 

As someone who designs automation cells and tooling for robots and machine
tools easily big enough to kill you, wireless pendants would freak me out
for safety reasons.

I spec wireless sensors for tooling pretty regularly. That said, I only
trust them for non-safety related tasks.

Wireless is great for tasks with harmless failure modes. Pinning my arm to
a machine table or braining me with a 200 pound end of arm tool, not so
much. :)

Just food for thought.

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Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Jason Burton
On Nov 9, 2012 4:23 PM, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 2012/11/9 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com

 
  As someone who designs automation cells and tooling for robots and
machine
  tools easily big enough to kill you, wireless pendants would freak me
out
  for safety reasons.
 
  I spec wireless sensors for tooling pretty regularly. That said, I
only
  trust them for non-safety related tasks.
 
  Wireless is great for tasks with harmless failure modes. Pinning my arm
to
  a machine table or braining me with a 200 pound end of arm tool, not so
  much. :)
 
  Just food for thought.
 
  Best,
  Jason
 
 
 That's why emergency buttons always should be wired. Hard wired.
 I'm not worried about wireless though, truck cranes and construction
cranes
 have been wireless for ages.

 /S
 

That's cool. I bet their wireless protocols are rigorously tested.

Do they allow payload dropping for overhead loads via wireless?
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Re: [Emc-users] Plasma Cutting on a Mill.

2012-11-06 Thread Jason Burton
I've wondered the exact same thing. I think about the only thing that might
stop you (barring sufficient speeds) is emi crosstalk.

Interested to see you build it!
 On Nov 6, 2012 6:56 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have wondered if it would be possible to plasma-cut with my milling
 machine.
 I am generally dissuaded by the mess.
 A water table isn't really an option, as it would slosh as the table moved.
 I think I might have thought of a way round both problems. I could
 mount an arm off the end of the bed, down to near the floor. I could
 then mount a plasma torch to that arm, and put a water tray and the
 sheet to be cut on the floor next to the machine.
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Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-28 Thread Jason Burton
Sorry, posted from my phone (didn't see the video).
On Oct 28, 2012 3:44 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote:

 2012/10/28 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com:
  Crosstalk between spindle power lines and solenoid control lines perhaps?

 As it can be seen in that video, it is purely in software.

 2012/10/28 sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com:
I have not had that happen that I know of...  Some things to check on
  is if you have enough objects allocated in your hal file..  (ie loadrt
  classicladder_rt numRungs=12 numBits=100 numWords=10 numTimers=10
  numMonostables=10 numCounters=10 numPhysInputs?=10 numPhysOutputs?=10
  numArithmExpr?=100
  numSections=4 numSymbols=200 ...)
 
  Funky things happen when you try to add something and there isn't enough
  allocated..

 I did at least try to check for that. I did run out of IEC Timers, and
 I was also informed about that with error message, so I fixed that.
 I feel pretty confident that everything should be fine about this.

  Also - don't have an output (coil) in more than one place..
 Ok, I definitely have violated this one. I have outputs being turned
 on by timers or by pyvcp buttons, connected to ladder inputs. A
 hardware switch selects it.

 What is the best approach to fix that? Should I simply leave overall
 scheme as it is and use internal coils (%Bnn) so that they turn the
 real output on/off only in one place? Or should I put all the possible
 inputs for certain output in one rung (or two with some internal coil)
 and not as they are now - scattered all in different places according
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Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-27 Thread Jason Burton
Crosstalk between spindle power lines and solenoid control lines perhaps?
 On Oct 27, 2012 6:36 PM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello!

 While working in premises of my customer to add new automatic material
 loading/unloading module for one of my machines, I have encountered
 strange error in ClassicLadder. I took a video on my phone with it:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YjkGbpuT50

 I will try to explain:
 The idea is to use classicladder to control valves for pneumatics that
 load the material in machine, hold it in place and then unload.
 When I started working on the ladder logic, everything was working
 fine, but then, at one moment, I think at the moment, when I linked
 one of classicladder input pins to motion.spindle-on, it just stopped
 turning the outputs on and off in a correct manner. Some of outputs
 are working fine, but others are doing I do not know what - seems like
 turning on for a very small amount of time at random moments.
 It is 2.5~pre, installed from buildbot package some time almost a year
 ago. I did copy all the config files, so I can share them, if that
 helps.
 I tried to workaround this with M62/M63 and M64/M65 commands and G4
 inbetween them to specify correct time distances between any 2 events,
 but that did not work out nicely - I did not notice any difference
 after changing almost all P values for G4 command from 0,5 to 3,5.
 Restarting system for several times did not help either. I do not
 know, how many times did I restart LinuxCNC...

 Does anyone has any idea, what went wrong?

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Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Jason Burton
Take a 1/4 thick piece of hard felt.

Apply the same through-hole and domed countersink as the wood.

Keep it wet by capillary action with your thin adhesive of choice. If the
adhesive is too thick to wet through the back side, apply a dose to the
felt in between marbles with a dipped ball mounted in a transfer device.
Replace the felt when necessary.

Pick a ball. Place on the felt without releasing the ball. Use a tested
amount of overtravel in Z if necessary for proper coverage.

Retract and place in final position on wood.

Have I pictured what you are doing correctly?
On Oct 9, 2012 5:16 AM, craig cr...@facework.com wrote:

 I have a CNC related problem.

 I am making small decorative personal gifts using thin wood (5-6mm - 1/4
 inch thick) and 6mm diameter colored glass balls (small marbles).

 A pattern of shaped holes is cut in the wood with a small cnc router
 using 2 tools.  A 1/4 ball nose mill cuts to approximately 4mm depth.  A
 3/16 tool then cuts the rest of the way through he wood. additional
 surface patterns may also be cut.

 The balls are then glued into the holes with a clear adhesive (
 currently a thinned clear caulking compound).

 The resulting items are interesting viewed directly or back-lit.


 The problem:

 The marbles are currently glued in by hand.
   Painting the glue into the holes, placing the ball and pressing it
 down gets tedious.

 I would like to automate this process by replacing the spindle with
 other equipment.

 I can automate the pick and placement of the balls.  ( spheres may be
 the easiest item to pick and place)

 But I have not found a good way to automate the gluing process
 inexpensively.

 suggestions? Thoughts?


 Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Jason Burton
On Oct 10, 2012 9:06 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10 October 2012 14:59, Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com wrote:
  Take a 1/4 thick piece of hard felt.
  Apply the same through-hole and domed countersink as the wood.

 That's far too simple and effective. Can't you add at least a small
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Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Jason Burton
In that case let's reframe the problem.

Build something akin to a felt tipped marker with a dome shaped tip.
Complete with adhesive reservoir instead of ink.

Mount it tip down with a small vertical actuator. An air cylinder perhaps.

Apply adhesive to the wood instead of the marble.

Might that serve your purpose better?

An elastic constriction chuck would not have to maintain rotational
alignment then. The marbles would rotate randomly on insertion without
consequence.

On Oct 10, 2012 10:04 AM, craig cr...@facework.com wrote:

 Thanks for an approach I did not even consider.  You got me thinking
 about how to use wicking processes.

 I am reticent to use picking up  balls since quality control on some
 batches (colors) was not that good.

 if I can find the right material maybe I can just push them through an
 elastic hole.  A shaped piston would not depend so much on quality.


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Re: [Emc-users] MPG that is compatible with EMC2?

2012-10-10 Thread Jason Burton
The 3d space navigator maintains focus via their proprietary drivers.

From examining mine I can say it does enumerate as an HID compliant device,
but not as a standard.

I couldn't say how though, either.

Jason
On Oct 8, 2012 9:36 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

 Igor Chudov wrote:
  John, I thought that USB based pendant would be the nicest, esp. if it
 can
  act as a keyboard or some such.
 
 No, if it emulates an HMI device, then it loses focus when some other
 window
 is selected.  That would be the worst situation.  Maybe there is some
 way you
 can capture an HMI device for use by a specific program, but I don't know
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Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Vacuum System

2012-10-03 Thread Jason Burton
On Oct 2, 2012 6:43 PM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 15:55 -0600, Jeshua Lacock wrote:
  On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:
 
   I'm playing with the thought of putting a vacuum deposition system
 ... snip
 
  Cool!
 
  I bet if you made the whole project open source you could get funding
for it on Kickstarter.com.
 
  Anyhow; just an idea! I would love to see an open source project for
this.
 ... snip

 Thanks to some on this list, I got links that all together cover the
 subject fairly well. Most of the user friendly information is more
 show-and-tell after someone has built and used their system, so a lot of
 the lower level details and reasoning has been left out. A cookbook
 style of documentation would be good. If I can get around to building a
 system I'll certainly consider documenting with a cookbook format in
 mind. Here is a cookbook'ish document
 http://wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Vacuum/

 that is available from the Yahoo VacuumX group:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VacuumX/

 I am not familiar with Kickstarter.com, I'll check it out. I can't
 imagine why someone would give me money to play in my shop, but I could
 think of worse things that could happen.


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 http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html
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If you wanted to start a service coating mirrors for other people (or
selling coated mirrors of your own manufacture), kickstarter would be just
the thing.

You set a threshold for what would be enough to get you going. If you do
not make that threshold, nobodies cards get charged and you spare yourself
half a market of angry customers.

If you sell enough to make your target (bearing in mind Amazon's share) all
backers cards are charged at the completion of the campaign.

Twoish weeks later the funds are released to you to execute whatever you
promised. Be it make a product or perform a service.

For examples, try Stompy and the open source spectrophotometer.

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Re: [Emc-users] Helical interpolation not quite round, WTF?

2012-10-03 Thread Jason Burton
Hi John,

Thanks. I just wanted Igor to know he's in sympathetic company. :)

Best,
Jason

On Sep 28, 2012 12:15 PM, John Stewart alex.stew...@crc.ca wrote:

 Jason;

 IMHO, so far you win the prize! ;-)

 Another JohnS.

 On 2012-09-28, at 1:10 PM, Jason Burton wrote:
 
  In my fatigue the night before, I had run the point to point wiring
without
  insulation stripping to make sure everything would reach. As the build
  finished later that night, I tightened the terminal strip screws on
  insulated wires!
 
  Stripped them all and it worked fine. One of those moments...


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Re: [Emc-users] Helical interpolation not quite round, WTF?

2012-09-28 Thread Jason Burton
On Sep 26, 2012 9:55 PM, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am highly embarrassed, but I will confess anyway, the problem was that
 the bolts holding the head, worked loose.

 I tightened them and milled out perfect circles with beautiful finish.

 Thanks, guys!

 i



When I first tested my home built rotary phase converter nothing on earth
would start the idler.

My calculation of starting cap bank size should have been good. Nothing.

Bought another set of caps to wire in parallel the next morning. The moment
I went to install them the facepalm moment came.

In my fatigue the night before, I had run the point to point wiring without
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Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-25 Thread Jason Burton
On Sep 22, 2012 10:39 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

 Viesturs La-cis wrote:
  2012/9/22 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com:
 
  Does Mesa or Pico (or another vendor) make a small, inexpensive amp for
  this size 3 phase servo?
 
 
 
  Mesa has small BLDC servo amps, but their rated voltage is much lower
  - 7i39HV is 50 VDC.
  I do not know about Pico Systems products.
 
 Our PWM servo amp has been tested to 122 V, and is good to 20 A.
 It can be used with either Mesa or Pico Systems controller boards.
 It needs the Hall signals from the motor for commutation.

 Jon


Hall effect sensors  assuming straight contact closures here, not active
signals, right?

I am at a decision fork.
1) Spend money and time on this hardware, get better performance. Or
2) Sell this and build my own repstrap like version run by with steppers
and linuxcnc.

I intend to put a flame cutting head on it for small format steel sheet and
plate.

With a head swap and sitting on top of a Z stage I want to experiment with
liquid binder based 3D powder prints.

I already have steppers, several drivers, acme leadscrews. It just seemed
tantalizing having the complete xy built already minus the control.

Don't really want to put $300+ into an experimentation platform that ends
up slower than what i could build from my junk box.

All thoughts/comments welcome!

Best,
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Re: [Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-22 Thread Jason Burton
On Sep 22, 2012 4:49 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote:

 2012/9/22 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com:
 
  Does Mesa or Pico (or another vendor) make a small, inexpensive amp for
  this size 3 phase servo?
 

 Mesa has small BLDC servo amps, but their rated voltage is much lower
 - 7i39HV is 50 VDC.
 I do not know about Pico Systems products.


 Dennis, how far is the IRAMS-based servodrive project? It seems to me
 that here is one more potential client for You.

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Thanks for the reply! I was hoping I was simply overlooking a product
offering from Jon and/or Peter. Or that perhaps one was in the works
somewhere...!

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[Emc-users] 100 watt 3 phase AC servo amplifier?

2012-09-21 Thread Jason Burton
I have a Yamaha XY robot minus its controller. X servo (largest of the two)
is Sanyo Denki: 100 watt, 3 phase, 200 VAC , 3000 rpm max with encoder
attached.

Looking to put it into service as a base for several rapid prototyping
projects. Also would like to use it to get my feet wet before tackling a
linuxcnc control retrofit on my bedmill.

Already on hand: mesa 5i25 plug and go kit. I am not necessarily stuck on
using it with this though (bought it for the big mill), if another product
made more sense.

Does Mesa or Pico (or another vendor) make a small, inexpensive amp for
this size 3 phase servo?

Sincerely,
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Re: [Emc-users] Hey Gene! Hand held O'scope for ya.

2012-09-21 Thread Jason Burton
Sorry to revive this with an unrelated question, but all messages I send
direct to the list seem to be quarantined.

What do I need to do differently?

Sincerely,
Jason Burton
 On Aug 17, 2012 4:14 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16 August 2012 20:00, Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com wrote:
  Looking for a good bang for the buck rig with either digital capture that
  can be downloaded for analysis, or even old school one-shot hold memory
  (and i'll take a photo of the screen).

 I have a middle-aged Tek scope with both digital storage and analog.
 It also has direct output to an X-Y plotter. (GPIB too)
 It is rather small, though not in the pocket class. (A little smaller
 than A4 paper footprint). It doesn't look like they were ever very
 common, and I paid £100 for it, which is probably a very small
 fraction of what all that cutting-edge tech cost in 1985.

 It's a Sony / Tektronix 336 and searching the internets seems to
 indicate that I paid less than the going rate.
 http://www.komu.jp/336.html shows decent pictures of one.

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Re: [Emc-users] Hey Gene! Hand held O'scope for ya.

2012-08-16 Thread Jason Burton
On Aug 14, 2012 10:16 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 14 August 2012 23:09:35 Jason Burton did opine:

  On Aug 14, 2012 9:08 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   On Tuesday 14 August 2012 10:00:30 Mark Wendt did opine:
Ebay auction #160861790127
   
Mark
  
   A bit rich ($330) for my budget.  I bought one of the DSO NANO's.  For
 
  what
 
   I want to use it for its adequate.  Unplug the usb charging cable and
   its fully isolated.
  
   Cheers, Gene
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  How do you like the DSO Nano? I've been eyeing them for a while.
 
 About the only thing I haven't mastered is getting the sweep trigger set
so
 I can see the actual trigger.  Other than that, and a miss-match between
 the probe and its frequency comp that distorts a square wave somewhat, it
 Just Works(TM).

 I didn't expect it to match my Hitachi V-1065, but at 5% of the cost ...

 Cheers, Gene
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I have a 100 mhz HP scope for the bench, but it takes a bit to warm up (if
you follow the manual's guideline). That and no one-shot event capture have
me looking for another scope.

Doing some very short transient pulse measurements. Good news is they are
audio frequency range so no great strain on most worth-anything scopes.

Looking for a good bang for the buck rig with either digital capture that
can be downloaded for analysis, or even old school one-shot hold memory
(and i'll take a photo of the screen).

I left off looking at the Tek 2200 series with memory added when the Nanos
came around.

Think it might be a good fit?

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Re: [Emc-users] Hey Gene! Hand held O'scope for ya.

2012-08-14 Thread Jason Burton
On Aug 14, 2012 9:08 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 14 August 2012 10:00:30 Mark Wendt did opine:

  Ebay auction #160861790127
 
  Mark

 A bit rich ($330) for my budget.  I bought one of the DSO NANO's.  For
what
 I want to use it for its adequate.  Unplug the usb charging cable and its
 fully isolated.

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How do you like the DSO Nano? I've been eyeing them for a while.

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Re: [Emc-users] Broaching this screw.

2012-07-21 Thread Jason Burton
What about torch heating the end and hot forging with the (cold) driver of
your choice?

Perhaps start with a full depth pilot hole so the forging tool doesn't have
to displace as much material.

You could then quench and temper to preference.

Jason
 On Jul 21, 2012 9:32 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Saturday 21 July 2012 22:14:28 Gene Heskett did opine:

  On Saturday 21 July 2012 12:55:27 andy pugh did opine:
   On 21 July 2012 16:44, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
And I just now did hit a page with some size specs.  Looks like T15
is as big as I can shoot for.  The thru hole in the extension is a
good fit for a 3.5 mm allen wrench.
  
   Broach it hex then, it can't be _that_ hard.
   Just don't do your real part first.
 
  A given.  I'll cut off half an inch of this drill rod and try that 2nd.
  First will be a piece of hard plastic like micarta.
 
  Cheers, Gene

 I got it done, not once but twice, second time in the real screw.  Then I
 did a boo-boo after making a 7mm tapped pocket to hold the screw, I mounted
 the drill bit, dropping its diameter about 6 thou, and thinking in mm that
 I needed to drill maybe 7mm into the end of it, zeroed the z without
 checking to see if it really was, fed the bit in, glance at the dro
 occasionally but always seeing it as -2.something, so I kept on boring.

 When I realized the display was in inches and that there must have been a
 previous touch off in effect.  The net effect is that I bored to far and
 broke the screw at the size change.

 That made it beer thirty  I was one behind.  My biggest problem was that
 3.5mm wrench, is damned near made out of unobtainium, I check Advance Auto,
 TSC and finally found 2 pocket kits at Lowes with a 3.5mm.  That turned out
 to be damned hard stuff, and my lathe drove it in 4 to 5mm very easily with
 about a 1/8 tail stock offset.  Veddy tight though, took a pair of BIG
 vice grips and a hammer to remove the key piece both times.  Without
 resorting to driving it back in with a hammer, it only goes back in about
 1mm.

 So, I guess tomorrow I re-rig and sharpen my thread cutter, and make
 another screw.  Then its probably going to slow for a day or 3 because I
 have no clue how much nose I'll come home with Monday.  Squamus Cell they
 called them this time.  Several small ones.

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[Emc-users] Jitter reduction tip

2012-06-28 Thread Jason Burton
Hello,

I have learned much lurking on this list. Thanks everyone.

I have a pair of dell machines that _horribly_ failed the max jitter test
initally.  Now they rank with the best in the comparison table.  The
difference? Turning off the serial and parallel ports in the BIOS.

This works for my application because mesa's 5i25 eliminates the need for
them (thanks Peter!). I am merely a customer, not a representative.

Just an heads up for anyone stuck with hardware dead ends.
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